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 bullyboy wrote:
I heard that the eliminators might be able to be split into 6 dudes if using infil bodies to bolster

Looking at the sprues there's 6 bolt sniper rifles and 3 las fusils, so with some Phobos bodies & green stuff capes you can have a few more.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Is it just me, or is $84AUD for a box of 3 Eliminators just taking the piss? Who is forking out nearly $100 for 3 guys haha. Man, GW is really pushing their prices.

Also the new Primaris characters being $70 is even worse. That’s insane for a single character. Man... I remember when I was laughing at the new Winged Blood Angel Chaplain being $40...

Australian prices being insane shouldn't really be a surprise by this point. It's the reason my GW purchases largely dried up when they instituted the regional sales restrictions.

You could run the Phobos Captain as a Eliminator Sergeant with an Instigator Bolt Carbine. I am considering that, since I will never use him otherwise unless the Imperial/Crimson Fists make him insanely good. I am considering that as an option rather than converting the Shadowspear Sergeant to have an Instigator Bolt Carbine.

 insaniak wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Is it just me, or is $84AUD for a box of 3 Eliminators just taking the piss? Who is forking out nearly $100 for 3 guys haha. Man, GW is really pushing their prices.

Also the new Primaris characters being $70 is even worse. That’s insane for a single character. Man... I remember when I was laughing at the new Winged Blood Angel Chaplain being $40...

Australian prices being insane shouldn't really be a surprise by this point. It's the reason my GW purchases largely dried up when they instituted the regional sales restrictions.

Hmm, it's not just Australia. At 40€ they're more expensive than monstrous infantry like Minotaurs. Primaris are large, but not that large. They're even less substantial compared to Juggernauts and their respective riders, even though the Marines are more expensive per model.

This year GW is trying to set a new standard for pricing while their sales are so good and they think they're popular enough to get away with it.

The only saving grace for me is that I already have 3 from the shadowspear box, and I plan to make 6 out of the box (spare rifles) so that I have the max 9 with minimal investment. This, of course, is all dependent on me actually choosing Ravenguard as my Primaris marine army.

Salamanders rules leaked on warofsigmar

Also 2 images of new Characters

but can't post link ^^

Quoth theraven..."Nevermore."

Salamanders:

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/4150

So for Sallies you're looking at Flame Aggressors, Invictus warsuits, Drop Pod MM devs, etc?

Crimson wrote:Salamanders:

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/4150

bullyboy wrote:So for Sallies you're looking at Flame Aggressors, Invictus warsuits, Drop Pod MM devs, etc?

Those are cool if true, tho wish flamers got extra range. I really like the Thunder Hammer, its badass.

Flame aggressors, assault squads/VV, Stern & Devs should kick ass now.

I want to see what a new Primaris Thunderhammer looks like.

A White Dwarf codex means that we'll probably won't see a Salamanders codex release including an upgrade sprue and Primaris character model soon.

Guess the next release wave will be Imperial Fists (we've already seen the upgrade sprue) and Black Templars, including the Impulsor grav tank and Infiltrators.

 stahly wrote:
A White Dwarf codex means that we'll probably won't see a Salamanders codex release including an upgrade sprue and Primaris character model soon.

Guess the next release wave will be Imperial Fists (we've already seen the upgrade sprue) and Black Templars, including the Impulsor grav tank and Infiltrators.

what makes you think it's white dwarf? GW isn't going to skip out on salamanders for a supplement.

fans of Vulkan Hes'tan might wanna be worried, if they didn't primarisify him it might be because they're plotting to kill him

or it might just be they wanna pad out every codex with at least 2 datasheets. although iron hands and raven guard only get one yeah?

BrianDavion wrote:
what makes you think it's white dwarf? GW isn't going to skip out on salamanders for a supplement.

fans of Vulkan Hes'tan might wanna be worried, if they didn't primarisify him it might be because they're plotting to kill him

He'stan still has a very decent model from ... 5th Edition?

In fact... The currently "Primarisified" characters seem to only be of models pre-5th edition. Am I right on that? Tigurius and Calgar are fourth. Shrike is from fourth. Was Korsarro also from fourth edition?

 stahly wrote:
A White Dwarf codex means that we'll probably won't see a Salamanders codex release including an upgrade sprue and Primaris character model soon.

Guess the next release wave will be Imperial Fists (we've already seen the upgrade sprue) and Black Templars, including the Impulsor grav tank and Infiltrators.

Yeah why would you think white dwarf? They're a first founding faction and quite popular. Also double the # of models as Ravenguard and Iron hands!

 Segersgia wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
what makes you think it's white dwarf? GW isn't going to skip out on salamanders for a supplement.

fans of Vulkan Hes'tan might wanna be worried, if they didn't primarisify him it might be because they're plotting to kill him

He'stan still has a very decent model from ... 5th Edition?

In fact... The currently "Primarisified" characters seem to only be of models pre-5th edition. Am I right on that? Tigurius and Calgar are fourth. Shrike is from fourth. Was Korsarro also from fourth edition?

eaither way if sallies get a new char thats awesome and I'm happy for them

This looks pretty rad. I am happy for the Salamanders players. This is the first instance we got a new Primaris character instead of them upgrading an existing character (Feiros is a brand new character replacing no one).

At any rate, the rules look solid. The Tactical Doctrine boost is nice. Expect to see a ton more Flamer-equipped Aggressors. Not a lot of utility for Primaris though, beyond that. Minimum Tactical Squads will probably see a resurgence for Salamanders, with Melta or Flamer plus Combi weapons being the norm. Sternguard with Heavy Flamers should be pretty effective as well.

The new Character seems pretty good. He basically gives friendly Salamander units the Blood Angels Chapter Tactics. Surround him with dudes with lots of attacks. Cause mayhem.

Ferios also coul;dn't replace anyone cause the iron hands prior to him had no one.

and yeah Sallies don't strike me as a very primaris friendly chapter. which is fine not every rules set should be, the marine line is lasrge after all.

I wonder if we'll be seeing sally sucessors with the 3 inches to weapon attack and master crafted rules. those could be pretty nuts

BrianDavion wrote:
Ferios also coul;dn't replace anyone cause the iron hands prior to him had no one.

and yeah Sallies don't strike me as a very primaris friendly chapter. which is fine not every rules set should be, the marine line is lasrge after all.

I wonder if we'll be seeing sally sucessors with the 3 inches to weapon attack and master crafted rules. those could be pretty nuts

That was my point. Had they released Feiros whilst there was another model that was left in fine cast, I would be a little irritated. Hopefully they don't repeat this with the Imperial Fists or Crimson Fists.

Maybe we will get some more Flamer or some Melta Primaris units at some point (Gravis book?) that will make Primaris Salamanders less of a joke.

 Segersgia wrote:
Was Korsarro also from fourth edition?

Nope, he was introduced in the 5th edition codex.

So Salamander warlord can be S6 T6? This is ridiculous.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Salamander warlord can be S6 T6? This is ridiculous.

Enough to make any ork envious.

I dunno what you guys are on about. If those leaked rules are true, they're still easily one of the bottom Chapters for sure.

Sad to see Vulkan not crossing the Rubicon Mango. Hopefully Pedro gets a sweet new model.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I dunno what you guys are on about. If those leaked rules are true, they're still easily one of the bottom Chapters for sure.

That's my initial thought too, although it's still early and we've only seen a handful of things.
However, melta and flamer +1 to W in Tactical doesn't help for Invictor warsuits and drop pod MM which would love for that to kick in on Turn 1.

IanVanCheese wrote:
Sad to see Vulkan not crossing the Rubicon Mango. Hopefully Pedro gets a sweet new model.

I'm glad the forgefather isnt getting Primaris'd, it makes more sense for someone else like Agaton or Tu'Shan.


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 bullyboy wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I dunno what you guys are on about. If those leaked rules are true, they're still easily one of the bottom Chapters for sure.

That's my initial thought too, although it's still early and we've only seen a handful of things.
However, melta and flamer +1 to W in Tactical doesn't help for Invictor warsuits and drop pod MM which would love for that to kick in on Turn 1.

turn 2 drops should be good for my 18th. kinda wished they also worked in assault as well. Dredpod with relic contemptor armed w MM & HF should kick ass.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got the Hellfury unit in a future Psychic Awakening book. If it has a bunch of flamer options, then that'll make a primaris Salamanders army much better. As it is, Aggressors not being able to deep strike and their flamers only being 8" range really limits their efficacy. You have to spend 300 ish points on a transport to get them up the field, and at that point, just take the normal bolter aggressors and a different chapter.

I had higher hopes for Salamanders after seeing what Iron Hands got. It seems they'll be really popular for people that like smash captains though. A t6 smash captain is going to be that much harder to budge.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Salamander warlord can be S6 T6? This is ridiculous.

Make him Gravis for T7, and take the relic for -1 to wound him.

 AduroT wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Salamander warlord can be S6 T6? This is ridiculous.

Make him Gravis for T7, and take the relic for -1 to wound him.

Geeze, he has the literal stat-line of a tank.

 buddha wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Salamander warlord can be S6 T6? This is ridiculous.

Make him Gravis for T7, and take the relic for -1 to wound him.

Geeze, he has the literal stat-line of a tank.

Dreadnought. Salamander Dreadnought Captain. Didn't they have something like that in the past?