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Not Online!!! wrote:
hmm.

makes sense.
Still want to see traitor guard and the command squad.

aswell as build a bear traits.

Which won't be in the CSM Codex.

All exalted champions, regardless of origin, legion, or mark of Chaos, utilize the exact same three weapons as every other exalted champion. They absolutely will not use any more or any less, such is the will of the Dark Gods.

If all GW did for 9th was to give troops two wounds and daemon engines 3+ WS/BS, imo it would be better than what we're getting here. I'd even be willing to sacrifice making customizable warbands if it meant not getting all this mess.

2x210 wrote:
Ohh boy more equipment locked units, this is a good thing because ummm reasons.

So now not only do my jumppack lords no longer exist, but apparently all Aspiring Champions without an axe and combimelta also got taken by the warp


feth hobbyists I guess, conversions are now banned. I cant wait until they say you are only allowed to use "official" paintschemes too that'll probably be 11th editions big new update

I agree with you entirely, but where did you learn that jump lords aren't going to be around anymore?

 Sersi wrote:
EXALTED CHAMPION
Same loadout as the model (power axe, combi melta & pistol)
Cannot change loadout

Oh for feth's sake...

WaIT aNd SeE

 Lord Damocles wrote:
WaIT aNd SeE

I mean we kind of have to? All we have are currently unsubstantiated rumours.

I love how they made this specifically a power axe and not an accursed weapon as if they were afraid someone might take that as an invitation to use something other than the very specific official model with its very specific official loadout.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
If all GW did for 9th was to give troops two wounds and daemon engines 3+ WS/BS, imo it would be better than what we're getting here. I'd even be willing to sacrifice making customizable warbands if it meant not getting all this mess.

2x210 wrote:
Ohh boy more equipment locked units, this is a good thing because ummm reasons.

So now not only do my jumppack lords no longer exist, but apparently all Aspiring Champions without an axe and combimelta also got taken by the warp


feth hobbyists I guess, conversions are now banned. I cant wait until they say you are only allowed to use "official" paintschemes too that'll probably be 11th editions big new update

I agree with you entirely, but where did you learn that jump lords aren't going to be around anymore?

Last week leaker said no more jumppack option for Lords and the NL relic jumppack could only go on a DP with wings

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
I love how they made this specifically a power axe and not an accursed weapon as if they were afraid someone might take that as an invitation to use something other than the very specific official model with its very specific official loadout.

Ha! I hadn't thought of that, certainly fits the bill

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
All exalted champions, regardless of origin, legion, or mark of Chaos, utilize the exact same three weapons as every other exalted champion. They absolutely will not use any more or any less, such is the will of the Dark Gods.

They couldn't at least give the option of a him have a power sword? If you wanted to give him a relic your stuck with Khorne. He was at least unique compared to Loyalist Lieutenants with his total melee focus with full re-rolls to wound and being a character killer.

I've used Exalted Champs as my leaders in every Chaos list I've made. I bring multiple, usually one with Lightning Claws, and another with a Power Mace so I can give him the relic. Then, as I'm playing Red Corsairs, the LC guy gets the Talisman of Burning Blood.

But nope. No more options for us. He always has a Power Axe and Combi-Melta. That's what every Exalted Champion across the entire galaxy has.

God fething damn it GW...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've used Exalted Champs as my leaders in every Chaos list I've made. I bring multiple, usually one with Lightning Claws, and another with a Power Mace so I can give him the relic. Then, as I'm playing Red Corsairs, the LC guy gets the Talisman of Burning Blood.

But nope. No more options for us. He always has a Power Axe and Combi-Melta. That's what every Exalted Champion across the entire galaxy has.

God fething damn it GW...

wAiT aNd SeE

 Gert wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
hmm.

makes sense.
Still want to see traitor guard and the command squad.

aswell as build a bear traits.

Which won't be in the CSM Codex.

That has been rumormongered for a while , Same rumour that confirmed Big mutants and small mutants, which Just got a nametag on.

Did Exalted Champs ever have the Jump Pack option? Can't remember, not that they would add it though.

Dudeface wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
I love how they made this specifically a power axe and not an accursed weapon as if they were afraid someone might take that as an invitation to use something other than the very specific official model with its very specific official loadout.

Ha! I hadn't thought of that, certainly fits the bill

For real now?!
So exalted champions which already more eh are not even customizable anymore?

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
I love how they made this specifically a power axe and not an accursed weapon as if they were afraid someone might take that as an invitation to use something other than the very specific official model with its very specific official loadout.

You can have it any color you like so long as its black.


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EviscerationPlague wrote:
Did Exalted Champs ever have the Jump Pack option? Can't remember, not that they would add it though.

No, that was Lords and Sorcerers only.

Wait, now I get it. This is simply confirmation of Paul Dirac's One Exalted Champion Universe Theory. You see, Dirac theorized that there in fact is only a single Exalted Champion and every time he gets annihilated by a Primaris Lieutenant in glorious single combat he bounces backward in time. This explains why every Exalted Champion has identical mass, charge, spin, and combi-melta.

 Sersi wrote:
More from Clockworkchris:

DISCO LORD
+1 to hit daemon engines in melee
Instead of healing vehicules can hurt ennemy vehicules
Limited to 1 and cant get multiple boosts (i don't understand what this means yet)

My first thought, "is the Lord Discordant being promoted to being a real Chaos Lord? We are almost assured there will be only 1 Chaos Lord per detachment in the new book."

Most assuredly.

So, I want to see the sides of this tug of war game going on the studio:

Side 1: Primaris characters need kits with more options!

Side 2: Chaos characters need to have no options!

Both sides: Eldar autarch? Eh, cut that baby down the middle.

2x210 wrote:
I cant wait until they say you are only allowed to use "official" paintschemes too that'll probably be 11th editions big new update

GW already does that for Space Marine chapters on their gamesday events.

Noise Marines getting buffed (beyond the wound/attack/leadership) is an unexpected surprise, but most definitely a welcome one.

I already considered the current sonic weapons to be legit fine, so them getting buffed is amazing.

 Rydria wrote:
I already considered the current sonic weapons to be legit fine, so them getting buffed is amazing.

I think people would prefer actual Noise Marine models, rather than a conversion kit designed for an OOP plastic box.

Pretty not-hyped about the single model/load out situation

Only via complete standardisation and absolutely no variations can Chaos truly reign!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Rydria wrote:
I already considered the current sonic weapons to be legit fine, so them getting buffed is amazing.

I think people would prefer actual Noise Marine models, rather than a conversion kit designed for an OOP plastic box.

Careful, lest you swing between either getting the fairly decent Rubric Marine kit or the ghastly Plague Marine kit.

 Rydria wrote:
Noise Marines getting buffed (beyond the wound/attack/leadership) is an unexpected surprise, but most definitely a welcome one.

I already considered the current sonic weapons to be legit fine, so them getting buffed is amazing.

I sure wasn't expecting a sonic weapon buff, but I was hoping and praying for one. It'll nice to not have our elite, soul corruptingly, daemonic sound weapons not have a simple flamer, bolter and missile launcher profile. I hope its increased shots, strength, AP, or damage; and not increased range or counting as AP-4 on 6 to wound. Something actually useful would be nice for a change.

They should give them increased strength and damage at half range, being sound weapons and all. Or maybe some kind of aura effect, because again sound weapons. But ofcourse it won't be anything that cool, sadly because CSM.

EviscerationPlague wrote:
Careful, lest you swing between either getting the fairly decent Rubric Marine kit or the ghastly Plague Marine kit.

Let's not kid ourselves, it's going to be the latter. And it'll have 6 models (to the Plague Marine's 7) and cost the same as other race's 10-man boxes.

"One in every 6 Noise Marines may replace his Sonic Blaster with a Blast Master..."

So if Night Lords want their trait to work they need to load up on: Raptors (makes sense), Daemon Princes and Possessed (in the Legion known for avoiding Chaos worship), and Mutant Culstists and Spawn (in the Legion known to have the least amount of mutations, because of that whole avoiding Chaos worship thing). So once again, gw can't read the fluff in their own codexes. Way to go.

And why can the Warpsmith only buff DAEMON ENGINES, instead of just VEHICLES? Did he forget how normal vehicles work? He can only do "Giant Evil Spiders" and dinobots now?

And only one available loadout for Exalted Champions? Based on an old kit? Good grief, I hope these particular playtest rules failed so hard that they took them out back and burned them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Only via complete standardisation and absolutely no variations can Chaos truly reign!

Eldar became Aeldari. Dark Eldar became Drukhari. Guard are Militarum now and Marines are far more prominently Astartes.

Now Chaos will become: Organisedus