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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also posted in the World Eater’s thread.

Looks like some melee cultists in the background as well.

Yeah, I wasn’t sure if those were new or not, as I’m not up on the current range.

Also looks to be new Bezerkers, new Guard and a new Guard Tank.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also posted in the World Eater’s thread.

niiice

I think they may be new figures (which wouldn't be impossible - Death Guard got poxwalkers alongside existing Cultists).

Carrying over the image for ease of conversation.

Still waiting on any news about the new models. I think it's very rude to customers for GW to say absolutely nothing on this.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Still waiting on any news about the new models. I think it's very rude to customers for GW to say absolutely nothing on this.

Preorder for the new Legionaries is next week, so we've got that at least.

They showed us a new demon prince that had the option to take a gun. but in the new codex there is only the old demon prince. Do we have to buy a new book if the new demon prince comes out ??

 skeleton wrote:
They showed us a new demon prince that had the option to take a gun. but in the new codex there is only the old demon prince. Do we have to buy a new book if the new demon prince comes out ??

GW is capable of publishing updated datasheets without books:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/fDlxaHkFk1zghWjo.pdf
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/0Cd856c5Bsgn60gu.pdf

 Laughing Man wrote:

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Still waiting on any news about the new models. I think it's very rude to customers for GW to say absolutely nothing on this.

Preorder for the new Legionaries is next week, so we've got that at least.

You mean the new upgrade sprue plus the current CSM.

 alextroy wrote:

 skeleton wrote:
They showed us a new demon prince that had the option to take a gun. but in the new codex there is only the old demon prince. Do we have to buy a new book if the new demon prince comes out ??

GW is capable of publishing updated datasheets without books:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/fDlxaHkFk1zghWjo.pdf
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/0Cd856c5Bsgn60gu.pdf

Those must be links to the CSM Kratos, the TS Kratos and the DG Kratos, strange there are only two, but I am not going to click on them to find out which one is missing.

Yeah and how much outcry did it take to get that updated Autarch sheet...

Not to mention by GW's own admission they released the Marine character profiles as a pdf because people kept asking

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Not to mention by GW's own admission they released the Marine character profiles as a pdf because people kept asking

I'm guessing you're referring to the Primaris Ancient with Sword and Primaris Champ?

EightFoldPath wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

 skeleton wrote:
They showed us a new demon prince that had the option to take a gun. but in the new codex there is only the old demon prince. Do we have to buy a new book if the new demon prince comes out ??

GW is capable of publishing updated datasheets without books:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/fDlxaHkFk1zghWjo.pdf
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/0Cd856c5Bsgn60gu.pdf

Those must be links to the CSM Kratos, the TS Kratos and the DG Kratos, strange there are only two, but I am not going to click on them to find out which one is missing.

No. The updated Autarch after their boned-headed move of not putting rules in the Codex for the two models that were designed and advertised as cross-compatible plus the updated Captain in Gravis Armour and Primaris Champion datasheets.

Now I'm not saying will publish a PDF for the new Daemon Prince. The only thing GW does consistently is be inconsistent.

Hey that's my line!

So wait, Master of Possession, uh is this model not able to be purchased any more? Just in an OOP start collecting box? I'm loving it

 ph34r wrote:
So wait, Master of Possession, uh is this model not able to be purchased any more? Just in an OOP start collecting box? I'm loving it

Along with the venomcrawler and oblits.

A query I raised in the killteam thread - CSM boxes have been reboxed as "Chaos legionnaires" without the upgrade sprue, the killteam squad is also called "Chaos legionnaires". So there's a naming conflict but more importantly I assume the Killteam box will cost more for the extra sprue at this point?

Dudeface wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
So wait, Master of Possession, uh is this model not able to be purchased any more? Just in an OOP start collecting box? I'm loving it

Along with the venomcrawler and oblits.

A query I raised in the killteam thread - CSM boxes have been reboxed as "Chaos legionnaires" without the upgrade sprue, the killteam squad is also called "Chaos legionnaires". So there's a naming conflict but more importantly I assume the Killteam box will cost more for the extra sprue at this point?

Wait what? Did they really remove those models? Those just came out!

Back in the day army books had rules for units before their models were released.

Then chapterhouse happened and army books went to only having rules for units that had current models.

So a codex having rules for units that no longer have models seems like the natural progression

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Back in the day army books had rules for units before their models were released.

Then chapterhouse happened and army books went to only having rules for units that had current models.

So a codex having rules for units that no longer have models seems like the natural progression

No, the natural progression is Codexes not having rules for all models that are currently available, of course. Which, funnily enough, is also the case with the CSM Coded.

 thepowerfulwill wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
So wait, Master of Possession, uh is this model not able to be purchased any more? Just in an OOP start collecting box? I'm loving it

Along with the venomcrawler and oblits.

A query I raised in the killteam thread - CSM boxes have been reboxed as "Chaos legionnaires" without the upgrade sprue, the killteam squad is also called "Chaos legionnaires". So there's a naming conflict but more importantly I assume the Killteam box will cost more for the extra sprue at this point?

Wait what? Did they really remove those models? Those just came out!

Hey, they can't even be bothered to tell people why they aren't selling the brand new models either.
Havocs/Marines/Terminators and the assorted characters are the most recent chaos models they actually sell.

Shadowspear? gone
Chosen and warpsmith? Nope.
Assorted cultists, possessed, etc? Nowhere to be found.

Oh, but the kill team sprue for legionnaires will be on the shelf soon.
A pure triumph of a model range and release!

Honestly at this point I can only assume that GW is trying not to let out that there's a big mess-up somewhere in the distribution chain.

Companies don't like admitting or letting slip that they've messed up in some way since that invites lawsuits from shareholders.

Silence is all we're going to get until the models finally do release.

drbored wrote:
Honestly at this point I can only assume that GW is trying not to let out that there's a big mess-up somewhere in the distribution chain.

Companies don't like admitting or letting slip that they've messed up in some way since that invites lawsuits from shareholders.

Silence is all we're going to get until the models finally do release.

I mean, they've been pretty clear about that, what with the pandemic and the global supply chain catastrophe.

 ph34r wrote:
So wait, Master of Possession, uh is this model not able to be purchased any more? Just in an OOP start collecting box? I'm loving it

The assumption is that he will be released as a clamshell character since he's on his own sprue.

We're kind of hoping that the Obliterators and Venomcrawler are also released separately in some fashion. They share a sprue, I believe, so whether that's going to be as a retail box or mail order only is uncertain. If it happens at all, of course.

But as said above, Chaos models are delayed for whatever reason and GW doesn't feel like telling us, so who knows if and when any of that happens.

 Laughing Man wrote:

drbored wrote:
Honestly at this point I can only assume that GW is trying not to let out that there's a big mess-up somewhere in the distribution chain.

Companies don't like admitting or letting slip that they've messed up in some way since that invites lawsuits from shareholders.

Silence is all we're going to get until the models finally do release.

I mean, they've been pretty clear about that, what with the pandemic and the global supply chain catastrophe.

Yes, they have been very open in some cases. In others, total silence.

I feel like I, too, should steal HBMC's line and put it here.

Copying from the killteam thread:

Kill Team Nachmund Book: $45 €35 £27.50
Kill Team: Corsair Voidscarred $60 €45 £35
Kill Team Chaos Space Marines Legionaries: $70 €55 £42.50

So £6 more for the upgrade sprue.

Only 5 euros, weird. It's a full 10-man-box, right?

Santtu wrote:
Only 5 euros, weird. It's a full 10-man-box, right?

Yup it's the chaos space marines legionnaires box with the extra sprue for the chaincanon in

As much as I hate paying $70 for the guys with the upgrades, I do need more spikey marines. Though I would rather they sold the upgrade sprue separately. But I don't think they have done that with any Kill Team boxes yet, have they?

If they sold the upgrade sprue separately, it'd cost 45% the cost of the actual box and you'd feel bad after buying it.