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How are you going to print them?

 pretre wrote:
How are you going to print them?

For the moment, my main option is to put them on a Shapeways store.
When I get enough money together to set it up, I'll be able to get a high quality master made, and start casting in resin, with only the Condemnor needing a slight rework to be castable (bow will need to be seperate, but that's not hard to do).

Maybe I should look at doing a KickStarter just to get enough together for a decent casting set up and so I can afford to expand the designs?

Not a horrible idea.

I'm down with that too. Ovion, gorgeous as always.

Loving the weapons designs!

I love that Condemnor! Except for the bolt head. It's just a bit... off for some reason.

I had no idea people could even do that. I'd always thought of 3D printing as a not-quite-mature technology for companies to build scale models of their designs quickly and for , um, eccentrics to print .22 pistols that fire one shot if you're lucky (and if you're not , they blow up in your hand).

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I love that Condemnor! Except for the bolt head. It's just a bit... off for some reason.

If you can think of how to make it better, I'm open to suggestions.
Through Shapeways, an entire Contemptor Boltgun is looking to be about £4... but would anyone actually pay that is the question?

I'll look at what it'd take for a Kickstarter I think...

I say we should hold off on getting too excited until the thing gets a FAQ. It could go really hard one way or another. I'd hate to invest time, money, and resources into the things and have them turned back into another useless piece of wargear.

 SisterSydney wrote:
I had no idea people could even do that. I'd always thought of 3D printing as a not-quite-mature technology for companies to build scale models of their designs quickly and for , um, eccentrics to print .22 pistols that fire one shot if you're lucky (and if you're not , they blow up in your hand).

Most people seem to think it can do anything amazingly fast, or that it can't do that much.

The main limitations are the need for decent 3D models (which as a CAD designer, I already know how to make to a production standard), and time, aswell as the initial cost of the printer.

It's like all these people that think it'll put GW out of business - 1 printer, just printing, will take 3-6 months of constant printing to pay itself off, (Some £2500 once you include thread and power use) if just printing GW models instead of buying (and that's not including 3D models...).

But if you make masters, then cast, it's a much more viable proposition, and if I do a Kickstarter, it'll be to cover initial casting material and high quality masters. (One day I'll get my own 3D printer too, but not anytime soon.)

Take Anvil Industries for example (fantastic guy and I love, and own, a good portion of his work):

I love the process of design to production you can do now.

 TheKbob wrote:
I say we should hold off on getting too excited until the thing gets a FAQ. It could go really hard one way or another. I'd hate to invest time, money, and resources into the things and have them turned back into another useless piece of wargear.

If I do a Kickstarter it'll be for more than Condemnors at least.

I've also done up some Faith counters (to keep track of which units have any left):


And there's this already complete (shameless plug time ):(The dice are a D36, Ld and D66)
With the CombiMelta and CombiPlasma in the works (Not sure if any sisters can take it, but someone might want it anyway...)
And a full set of Pistols (Bolt, Flame, Melta, Plasma), Special, Heavy and Power weapons in the production queue, plus more beside, here's hoping I can manage it...

Dude. Just do an entire set of "Not sisters" figures.

Just wanted to post this here to try and get some feedback. It's a bit of an update on what I was using under the WD codex that I really liked, though I finally converted up some Repressors and dropped my Retributors for a third Exorcist. I'm kind of liking the high AV style mech list over the idea of MSU immolator spam (though I've ordered a few more Immos to try the other route out). How's this look?

HQ
Saint Celestine – 135

Troops
Battle Sister Squad
-Flamer (x2)
-Repressor
Total – 205

Battle Sister Squad
-Flamer
-Heavy Flamer
-Repressor
Total – 210

Fast Attack
Seraphim Squad (x9)
-Two hand Flamers (x2)
Total – 155

Dominion Squad
-Meltaguns (x4)
-Combi-melta
-Immolator w/ TL-MultiMelta
-Laudhailers
Total – 185

Dominion Squad
-Meltaguns (x4)
-Combi-melta
-Immolator w/ TL-MultiMelta
-Laudhailers
Total – 185

Heavy Support
Exorcist – 125
Exorcist – 125
Exorcist – 125

Allied HQ
Company Command Squad
-Meltaguns (x4)
Total – 90

Allied Troops
Veteran Squad
-Plasma Guns (x3)
-Chimera
Total – 170

Allied Fast Attack
Vendetta – 130

Allied Heavy Support
Manticore – 160

Army Total – 2000

I had good luck with it tonight against SM and GK (It was a 2k 2v1). I know that some people think Celestine got neutered, but I'm loving the S5 and more reliable resurrection. She normally only tended to die once or twice a game for me even under the old system anyway, and more than once I'd roll under a four several turns in a row. She and the Seraphim just mulched through two purifier squads, an assault marine squad, and a tactical squad. I know its a bit low on troops, but otherwise I'm liking it.

Once there's an FAQ on Condemnors, I think I'll drop one of the Seraphim and the last heavy flamer and pick up two Condemnors on my BSS Superiors, but for now I really don't want to jump on board without some clarification. They're awesome for moment, but I don't want to be stuck with the models if GW rules the wrong way.

I'd buy that sprue...

Finally had my first game with the new dex. 1500 pts vs Blood Angels, Hammer and Anvil set u, big guns never tire was the mission.

My take home from the game is that getting your AoF off at the right moment is pretty damn critical. Preferred Enemy can be brutal, especially from the blob. Fearless from the priests seems pretty essential especially on the fragile small squads as it makes them very handy for tieing units up for a turn or irritating them with what could be considered ignorable damage output.

I had Loud Hailers on all my vehicles and they certainly helped get my AoF, saying that I suspect they were only so useful as my opponent didn't really go after my transports, so i think against a shooty army they wouldn't really be worth it as my transports would get popped alot quicker. Maybe put them on half and run them in pairs.

A convining win overall, but I did have the advantage as I know the BA dex well so I knew what I could expect from his units.

I'll reserve judgement until I've played more games but overall I'm pretty happy with how they're playing out so far.


D

So I went and acidentally a Ravenwing Dark Talon, looking forward to assembling it and possibly get a game in on Sunday.

*face palm* my new Exorcist was delivered.... to my old address... 1700 miles away... feth. One of my friends is running over to see if it's still on the porch/in the mail box or if one of the neighbors picked it up for me. It's a good neighborhood so I doubt it went walk about. The bad part is by the time it gets to me, temperatures might drop far enough as to prevent me from painting.

 Ovion wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:
I had no idea people could even do that. I'd always thought of 3D printing as a not-quite-mature technology for companies to build scale models of their designs quickly and for , um, eccentrics to print .22 pistols that fire one shot if you're lucky (and if you're not , they blow up in your hand).

Most people seem to think it can do anything amazingly fast, or that it can't do that much.

The main limitations are the need for decent 3D models (which as a CAD designer, I already know how to make to a production standard), and time, aswell as the initial cost of the printer.

It's like all these people that think it'll put GW out of business - 1 printer, just printing, will take 3-6 months of constant printing to pay itself off, (Some £2500 once you include thread and power use) if just printing GW models instead of buying (and that's not including 3D models...).

But if you make masters, then cast, it's a much more viable proposition, and if I do a Kickstarter, it'll be to cover initial casting material and high quality masters. (One day I'll get my own 3D printer too, but not anytime soon.)

Aha. So you are using it for rapid prototyping rather than mass production, in the sense that you're printing a master model and then doing the rest by conventional manufacturing processes. Interesting. I just learned something, thanks.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Dude. Just do an entire set of "Not sisters" figures.

Unfortunately, that's a little beyond my ability at the moment.
Using Solidworks and the CAD design, doing mechanical stuff, that's pretty easy.
Doing organic looking stuff, that's hard.

There are ways to do it, and I intend to sit down and learn, but that'll be a ways off yet.
So maybe in the future.

I do intend to do a few vehicles though.

And after getting 'sensible' stuff out of the way, I'll be doing up some 'homebrew' stuff, like an assault vehicle model (and rules), a Condemnor Boltcannon, and fun things like that.

Also need a name for this stuff to sell under...

 SisterSydney wrote:

Spoiler:

 Ovion wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:
I had no idea people could even do that. I'd always thought of 3D printing as a not-quite-mature technology for companies to build scale models of their designs quickly and for , um, eccentrics to print .22 pistols that fire one shot if you're lucky (and if you're not , they blow up in your hand).

Most people seem to think it can do anything amazingly fast, or that it can't do that much.

The main limitations are the need for decent 3D models (which as a CAD designer, I already know how to make to a production standard), and time, aswell as the initial cost of the printer.

It's like all these people that think it'll put GW out of business - 1 printer, just printing, will take 3-6 months of constant printing to pay itself off, (Some £2500 once you include thread and power use) if just printing GW models instead of buying (and that's not including 3D models...).

But if you make masters, then cast, it's a much more viable proposition, and if I do a Kickstarter, it'll be to cover initial casting material and high quality masters. (One day I'll get my own 3D printer too, but not anytime soon.)

Aha. So you are using it for rapid prototyping rather than mass production, in the sense that you're printing a master model and then doing the rest by conventional manufacturing processes. Interesting. I just learned something, thanks.

Both actually. I will be putting it on Shapeways, which is a printing service, so people can just order 3D printed ones, and I'mgoing to try and start the casting thing too.

My wife has her first game this weekend with the new codex (she only played 2 games with the old codex, so she is still very new). She picked up a ADL this week, and I was wondering what would be best unit to stick behind it. Under the old codex i was going to have her take Rets with heavy bolters, but it seems that is no longer the in thing to take.

Any suggestions?

Cover for Exorcists, that's what I do.

But there's danger in putting them all so close to each other too.

Heavy Bolter Rets with a Simulacrum for 2 lots of rending can still work.

And there's really no reason to shelve it, it's not a bad unit, just most people see the 3 Exorcists as better now, but the Rets will still do alright.


I'm also thinking of something like the Mk.GD Chevalier Heavy Rifle for the 'safe' name.

 Ovion wrote:
Heavy Bolter Rets with a Simulacrum for 2 lots of rending can still work.

And there's really no reason to shelve it, it's not a bad unit, just most people see the 3 Exorcists as better now, but the Rets will still do alright.

Thats what I was thinking as well, but wanted to check. She is dead set against running 3 Exorcists, she is all about the look and the "roleplay" of the game. So she wants to run 1 Exorcist, 1 Squad of Pent engines .

Which leaves me to figure out how to run it, and to teach her lol (gotta love being married)

Also plan to stick the Exorcist behind the ADL for most fights.

Some more good news - I was talking to a store manager and he said the Sisters sold very very very well - much better than expected - even outselling Marines

 Mr Morden wrote:
Some more good news - I was talking to a store manager and he said the Sisters sold very very very well - much better than expected - even outselling Marines

In general or just post codex release?

Sorry I meant that Sisters Codex outsold all the others apparently

Sexy, Even GW can't ignore numbers like that ja?

In other super positive news! My mail forwarding caught the package and it should be waiting for me when I get home! Eeee~ New toy to bling out and make all ornate and awesome to rain fire upon the Emperor's foes!

 Mr Morden wrote:
Sorry I meant that Sisters Codex outsold all the others apparently

Oh nuts, still have to pay my GW tax and get an actual copy of the AS book....
Will have to check my bank balance, unless anyone was nice enough to buy it for me (I realise no one will, but I can dream!)

Nice to see that Sisters got the love they deserved though.

Well I'll have to pay the 'buy the physical book' tax too, really not fan of them releasing the digital one first.

Not sure how your store manager got that information.

My games-workshop store manager the last time I spoke with him was disappointed for two things:

1. He expected them to sell well, but had no way of actually finding out they did since that information was not released to him.
2. He does not have any way of actually selling the codex since it's only through black library digital and thus can't get an average on how his store does compared to others to get theorical numbers.


I am also hoping they sold well... but better than marines? If we're talking about the Imperial Fist supplement.. that is possible, but the actual marine book? I doubt that is possible.

Store Managers are notorious for making crap up, so no surprise there.