Apologist wrote:Cor, they look great. I'd like the no shoulder pad look, personally – it leaves future space for heavier troops to be built with breastplate torsos and shoulder pads.
Now that is a GREAT suggestion - please make it so!
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:As soon as the female Guard arrive my wallet is going to be running for cover.
Also I'm looking forward to seeing what the end results are.
Good point there - once they are available, I'll be placing a large order for many sets of each - they'll look great, and properly sized, next to my True Scale Alpha Legion!
Bull0 wrote:
These are really really good. I could do with pistol grips on the rifles - just a preference, for this more modern-looking outfit. I think the more traditional rifle look is totally fine for the other regiments in the range, like the highlanders, though.
Another great suggestion - hopefully this one can be made a reality too!
It's worth noting the Vic has already produced groin guards which extend the torso into a heavier-armoured look. With a more heavily-armoured set of helmets and the aforementioned arms (perhaps with the more heavy-duty rifle with pistol grip?) you'd be set for a without too much extra work...
Apologist wrote: It's worth noting the Vic has already produced groin guards which extend the torso into a heavier-armoured look. With a more heavily-armoured set of helmets and the aforementioned arms (perhaps with the more heavy-duty rifle with pistol grip?) you'd be set for a without too much extra work...
I used those groin guards on all of my Cadians because I run grenadiers (often overlooked, and yet soooooo good).
These are really really good. I could do with pistol grips on the rifles - just a preference, for this more modern-looking outfit. I think the more traditional rifle look is totally fine for the other regiments in the range, like the highlanders, though.
I've got good news for you then.
vic wrote:
I have been working on a new las-gun design. This is the first draft. The final sculpt will be done digitally. It is loosely inspired by an AK-47. Comments and feedback appreciated before revisions are done.
Thanks,
V
I can honestly say you have made my day with the 2nd edition cadian style heads! The old perry sculpts are glorious.
will you be doing some rolled sleeve arms with the more 2nd ed looking armour?
Shipping Delay :(
Due to an un-expected casting hold-up, I will be shipping out some orders later than expected. All orders will be filled, but the delay could take me to the end of the month. If you have an order that has not shipped and you would rather be refunded than wait, please contact me.
Very sorry about this, especially at this time of year. I will also be listing some of the squads as pre-orders while I catch up.
Big thanks to all for their support and patience.
You know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men....
V
Santa's bringing me some Broolians and more penal bits, can't wait!
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Vic, just to let you know my package arrived today can't open it 'til Christmas though :(
Hope there's not too many disappointed Victoria Minis customers out there and you get whatever shipping issues sorted, although i'm always amazed at the speed at which I get my VM goodies from half the world away
I prefer Gorilla Super Glue to Loctite for models. Loctite is good in that it sets fast, but doesn't have the strength I find. For metal. it can irk the hell outta me, though for plastic to plastic or resin to resin, it's fine unless it is a large part that provides leverage against the joint.
Any chance we might someday see some Doughboys in a similar vein to the Death Korps?
Also, if I wanted to just have a couple figures to paint up, would it be more economical to buy the bits separetely, or would it actually be better to just get a whole squad?
Barzam wrote: Any chance we might someday see some Doughboys in a similar vein to the Death Korps?
Also, if I wanted to just have a couple figures to paint up, would it be more economical to buy the bits separetely, or would it actually be better to just get a whole squad?
Vic does Brodie Helmet heads, they're basically the same helmets given to the US Doughboys in WW1 and used by the US military as the M1917 helmet up until 1942.
Hi, thanks for the comments.
Yes the male and female 'not cadians' now named 'Arcadians' are well on the way. A very badly timed casting hold up has delayed the release. I am doing all I can to get them out asap.
In the meantime, here is a preview of things to come in 2014. I have been working with the very cool digital artist, Jake Schneider to create a formidable heavy weapons battery. Here's one of the first.
Cheers, V
Is the gun chassis standard heavy weapon sized? I have a ton of spare heavy weapons but no frames to mount them on so if the chassis was available separately I would buy a fair few.
Great to hear some news. Even if it is a little unfortunate that the Arcadians are delayed, the heavy weapons are a lovely surprise.
Do you have any larger or morerecent WIPs of the Arcadians, Vic? I seem to remember you mentioning they'd have different rifles to the rest of the regiment, and I'd love to we them on the figures.
Cheers, the Arcadians will initially have the current las rifle. I plan to to an option later on with the new auto and las rifles that Jake has been working on become available.
More choice for my Praetorians. Col Gravis recently did a nice set via Kickstarter but those are more of a generic Victorian Sci-Fi rather than having a 40 look.
Colour me interested in picking these up once I have seen the female Guardsmen, purchased more bits for kilted Praetorians...and more Rough Riders...and resin Tannenburgers......
Looky Likey wrote: Is the gun chassis standard heavy weapon sized? I have a ton of spare heavy weapons but no frames to mount them on so if the chassis was available separately I would buy a fair few.
I think this would be a great idea- I also have plenty of spare heavy weapons and could do with some gun carriages.
Also, when you say "the whole shebang, bang!" would that possibly include some Earthshaker and heavy mortar sized guns?
vic wrote: Cheers, the Arcadians will initially have the current las rifle. I plan to to an option later on with the new auto and las rifles that Jake has been working on become available.
Ah, spiffy. Jake's work is lovely, judging from the previews and the new gun carriage. Do you have a link to more of his work?
If you're planning on accessories for the carriage, can I suggest a little track unit to replace the wheels? That'd give some flexibility for a more futuristic look.
From the look of that gun design, it will probably be a guy with a remote control or something, as this design doesn't seem to feature any visible controls or optics.
BrookM wrote: From the look of that gun design, it will probably be a guy with a remote control or something, as this design doesn't seem to feature any visible controls or optics.
Similar to some of the old guard heavy weapon teams that GW used to sell? (the Mordian lascannon team in particular comes to mind) That would make sense. Also makes them feel a little more futuristic whilst keeping the old-fashioned gun carriage design that fits with the Victorian aesthetic of most of Vic's kits.
Thanks for the comments. Jake is currently working of a swag of new weapons including plsma types.
The inspiration for these HW platforms comes partly from my 1999 Pratorian Guard conversions.
We are looking at doing some alternate wheels and track units.
However, 4 little flares that run from the behind the muzzle cap into the barrel look a bit out of place to me though. Kind of a raygun-gothic (Flash Gordon'ish) accent on a weapon that otherwise has a bit more of a gritty functional look.
I am absolutely chuffed to hear that you guys like it and to get to see your feedback.
I have to let Victoria decide when she previews stuff, however, I can assure you there are more weapons for this carriage coming, and plenty of small arms as well.
Yes, as to size, it's similar to the current HW setup - it's placed on a (digital) 60mm base for the shots to give you a good context for sizing.
I just have to say, personally, it's an amazing experience for me to work with Victoria. I shamelessly admit to having had a massive nerd crush on her and her work for ages, so working with her has been a dream come true.
faolan wrote: I am absolutely chuffed to hear that you guys like it and to get to see your feedback.
I have to let Victoria decide when she previews stuff, however, I can assure you there are more weapons for this carriage coming, and plenty of small arms as well.
Yes, as to size, it's similar to the current HW setup - it's placed on a (digital) 60mm base for the shots to give you a good context for sizing.
I just have to say, personally, it's an amazing experience for me to work with Victoria. I shamelessly admit to having had a massive nerd crush on her and her work for ages, so working with her has been a dream come true.
Oh whao! I thought that was a 40mm base! That's going to be huge!
Very cool, but i feel that their is going to be some issues with them being that big. Try to make sure their is enough room so at least a gunner can fit on the same 60mm base with the gun for thows of us looking to use them in modern IG rules. Personally I like the ascetic of two men on a 60mm base so you can have a gunner/loader or a gunner/spotter.
That gun is taking up a whole 60mm base all on it's own, so not sure how I'm going to fit two guys on the base let alone one! You may need to scale it down slightly.
I agree with Lockark. I would scale the heavy weapons down so two minis could fit with the weapon. This would allow us to use the weapons with the current popular 28mm game.
I really like the look of the heavy weapons. The carriages are beautiful. I would be interested in empty gun carriages. Spare gunner arms might sell well to go with the empty carriages.
I look forward to the many new items this year. You may make (even more) money off me.
Color me interested. I have to expand my IG and need HW. Although the HWT kit is one of the best value for money you need carriages to take advantage to the fullest extent.
Have no fear guys! Figures DO indeed fit on here, I keep a couple digital ones around for sizing when in doubt. It's actually even written up on my white board (I keep one around for listing down jobs, etc), and it's double underlined - "Ensure 2 figs can fit without grinding each other".
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As a side note, the ones V showed off above from her own collection? They're actually wider than mine!
vic wrote: Hi, thanks for the comments.
Yes the male and female 'not cadians' now named 'Arcadians' are well on the way. A very badly timed casting hold up has delayed the release. I am doing all I can to get them out asap.
In the meantime, here is a preview of things to come in 2014. I have been working with the very cool digital artist, Jake Schneider to create a formidable heavy weapons battery. Here's one of the first.
Cheers, V
Can we get a pic of a guardsman or something standing next to one. I have a feeling these things are shorter than most people think they are.
These things fit the look of the more "victorian" regiments perfectly
I love it! I am really excited about these. The only criticism I can think of is the muzzle of the gun. Other guns of this sort have a muzzle that can be painted a distinct color from the barrel. I like this and hope that this could be included in any revisions to the model. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing!
Looking good vic, but a far lower priority for me than Arcadians and your other awesome ranges. Acceptable heavy weapons are plentiful, but your human ranges are exquisite.
Lovely gun, really like the wheels and carriage. I find it a shame that it is as big as it is, though,
I don't really see how it will ever fit as a lascannon in a heavy weapons team. It takes up more than 2/3 of the base, How people will be able to fit 2 crew members, and also make room for sandbags, ammo crates, grass and whatnot to give the base character, well, i don't see it.
I think people should just take it for what it is, a large artillery piece, put it on a larger base, and use it as Ork artillery (or hope IG gets artillery pieces in the new IG:codex).
Still, i love the work, it has a nice rugged feel about it, would be cool next to some cultists or dkok.
Kind regards
Lundsteen91
Another vote for keeping the soft metal detailing parts – things like the goggles and rifle straps just won't work in any other material, and they're so cool!
I finally had a chance to sit down and paint up one of the miniatures I'd bought and built. Here he is:
All Vic's stuff, except for the GW backpack, taken from the Catachan heavy weapon kit.
Resin chem mask head
Resin combat legs
Resin pistol holster
Metal flak armour torso
Metal rolled sleeve arms
So I have was already having a great day, being Friday and just writing a test that turned out to be infinitely easier than expected, and now I'm going to get drunk, but I was surprised by my Tannenburg Fusiliers showing up at work!
All I can say is that the models are gorgeous and the details even better in person. I can't wait to put them together and paint them!
Oh, and thanks for the great service Vic; I'll be ordering more from you, especially when the heavy weapons are finished.
Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in two fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis email list here: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/ Cheers, V
faolan wrote: Have no fear guys! Figures DO indeed fit on here, I keep a couple digital ones around for sizing when in doubt. It's actually even written up on my white board (I keep one around for listing down jobs, etc), and it's double underlined - "Ensure 2 figs can fit without grinding each other".
*Edit*
As a side note, the ones V showed off above from her own collection? They're actually wider than mine!
Colour Sergeant Kassandra Devin ducked her head beneath the lip of the trench a fraction of a second before the shell exploded. The colonial rebels were getting better at siting their heavy artillery. She cursed the bastards and their learning curve; it was really only a matter of minutes before they zeroed in on her position. Devin scanned the defensive works around her, manned by what remained of 2nd Company, 8th Arcadian Rifles. There weren’t many left now. Lieutenant Thais was wounded, evac’d to the rear, and Corporal Xephon was scattered across a dozen meters of no man’s land. She checked her chrono. One minute until all Hades broke loose.
Devin’s helmet comm chimed the signal to advance. Up and down the trench line, the remnants of the Arcadian 1st Brigade were moving forward. Friendly artillery began to lay down a covering barrage, a thunderous hail of metal and fire. If everything went according to plan, the infantry would have time to cross the mile of desolation between their line and the rebel guns. If things didn’t go as planned, well, that wasn’t something Devin had time to consider now. She gripped the Regimental Colours as she launched herself up, out of the trench. She turned to look and the men and women of 2nd Company and gave them a wry smile. “C’mon”, she yelled, “I’ll race ya!”
I think there will a variant for various cons across the world. This one is sporting the Adepticon logo, so who knows what other con logos she'll sport?
Ha, just realized you guys beat me to it Thanks for the feedback and comments.
Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, as you see her here is only available at Adepticon, but will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis mailing list here:
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/
Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V
Yeah, let's not do "limited edition" things like that. I mean, that's a great looking standard bearer for my metal Cadians. But I live in Australia. Adepticon is almost literally on the other side of the world.
I am building a to buy list so will add these lovely ladies to it, it is a real shame to miss out on this miniature because of the event but thats life I guess
vic wrote: Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V
Wonderful! Those of us who can't make it to Adepticon appreciate the effort!
H.B.M.C. wrote: Yeah, let's not do "limited edition" things like that. I mean, that's a great looking standard bearer for my metal Cadians. But I live in Australia. Adepticon is almost literally on the other side of the world.
I am torn on Limited Edition figures. As a collector I love them, but I also hate having to track them down as they are almost always sold or given away at events I cannot attend. Vic's LE's are such incredible figures it makes that urge to acquire them even greater than the usual LE fare. This standard bearer and last year's Torgo Beastman are just superb, and, well, missing out on such lovely miniatures is a bit of a kick in the pants.
vic wrote: Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V
Is she actually being sold at Adepticon, or just for the swag bags?
vic wrote: Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V
Just change the pole and make some minor changes for the peasant version
vic wrote: Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V
Just change the pole and make some minor changes for the peasant version
Great idea! Just put a different topper on the pole and call it done.
I must have that mini. The nerdrage will be immense if I can't get one ; p Planning on getting a fair few of her Arcadians and that mini will be essential to go with them!
BrookM wrote: First 1000 swag bags if I read the Adepticon site correctly.
It says it comes in the first 1000, yes... The Adepti-construct in2012 said the same thing, but was also sold separately over the weekend, along with all of the past Adepticon exclusives.
Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in two fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis email list here: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/ Cheers, V
Oh fantastic. Another Adepticon exclusive only available to people on the other side of the planet made and produced by a company one state to the west that will never be available in this country. Not at Cancon, nor Arc 40k nor anywhere local at all. Piss and Vingegar.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Yeah, let's not do "limited edition" things like that. I mean, that's a great looking standard bearer for my metal Cadians. But I live in Australia. Adepticon is almost literally on the other side of the world.
Yeah. This and the broo quite frankly make me not want to buy any more of Vic's minis. Sure, they're great models, but they're premium priced (and in US dollars!) and there's no shortage of things I want to buy out there, so this kind of thing just drops Vic to the bottom of my pile.
Oh fantastic. Another Adepticon exclusive only available to people on the other side of the planet made and produced by a company one state to the west that will never be available in this country. Not at Cancon, nor Arc 40k nor anywhere local at all. Piss and Vingegar.
Azazelx wrote: Oh fantastic. Another Adepticon exclusive only available to people on the other side of the planet ...
Not entirely. If they're going to the first thousand registered, I'll be getting one.
To be honest, I don't understand the vitriol. Yes, you can't get event-exclusive stuff without going to the event. Awesome as it is, it's just a miniature, though... is that really such a big deal?
I'm guessing that you'll be getting one by being one of the people on the other side of the planet for that event? In which case, my point stands.
Honestly, it's annoying, and more than a wee bit insulting that these things aren't made available at all locally - even at events like CanCon and Arc40k.
Nope, it's not that big a deal in the scheme of things, but then, neither is something like this acting to make my prioritise buying other figures over more of Vic's minis. I "need" the Arcadian standard bearer as much as I need Arcadians. I "need" the Broo flamer guy as much as I need Broo troopers. Which is to say not at all.
It's not like I need any more figures of any kind, after all. But having the opportunity to get something cool or not begets buying more from the same line. Or not.
insaniak wrote: To be honest, I don't understand the vitriol. Yes, you can't get event-exclusive stuff without going to the event. Awesome as it is, it's just a miniature, though... is that really such a big deal?
Exactly - that's what "limited edition" or "event exclusive" means, doesn't it?
DarkTraveler777 wrote: I am torn on Limited Edition figures. As a collector I love them...
Why? Do you derive pleasure from the fact that other people can't have things they want?
insaniak wrote: To be honest, I don't understand the vitriol. Yes, you can't get event-exclusive stuff without going to the event. Awesome as it is, it's just a miniature, though... is that really such a big deal?
Some are worse than others, but every time a manufacturer creates a pointless hoop for potential paying customers to jump through, they put themselves one step further away from an enterprise we want to succeed. At one end, if you are working with the sort of resin moulds that degrade so quickly that you can only vouch for the quality of the first 200 casts, that's not unreasonable. But if you're producing a plastic kit for a new race (DFG's Shadokesh) and refuse to sell it to people who back your future all-Shadokesh-all-the-time Kickstarter, that's just being a jerk. An Australian manufacturer refusing to sell their product inside Australia is closer to the latter than the former.
Azazelx wrote: I'm guessing that you'll be getting one by being one of the people on the other side of the planet for that event? In which case, my point stands.
I'll be at the event, yes. That's kind of the point of an event exclusive.
Honestly, it's annoying, and more than a wee bit insulting that these things aren't made available at all locally - even at events like CanCon and Arc40k.
I guess I can understand 'annoying' if it's something that you would like. But 'insulting'...? How?
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AlexHolker wrote: An Australian manufacturer refusing to sell their product inside Australia is closer to the latter than the former.
This isn't an Australian manufacturer refusing to sell her products inside Australia, though. It's an Australian manufacturer, with a range of products available to anyone who wants them, who was commissioned to supply an event-exclusive miniature to promote a specific event.
Events in Australia have every opportunity to do the exact same thing.
Wow, - Hopefully I won’t speak for Victoria here but:
AdeptiCon produces between 1500-2000 casts of each AdeptiCon model giveaway and we include the figure till we run out of swag bag material. In past years that has been in the area of 1500 bags. We say “1000” as that is the target number for other vendor material. We also set aside a number of them for sale at the show to anyone that wants to pick up extras. In fact, we generally have all previous years models available onsite for sale. As we produce this particular aspect of the swag bag we have more flexibility.
In the case of a company/sculptor who is actually attending AdeptiCon. Doing an AdeptiCon commission offsets the out of pocket costs associated with attending making attendance for smaller companies, especially in the case of an international one, more feasible. It also puts direct product in the hands of a target audience giving people firsthand experience with their work. Many of us know the amazing work that Victoria does but as crazy as it sounds a large number of hobbyists have yet to hear of it and a greater percentage have yet to see it. So putting a Victoria miniature in the hands of the audience of what is arguably the largest miniature war gaming convention in the world not only makes sense but ultimately leads to more sales, which in turn means more fantastic work from Victoria for the rest of us!
There is a whole list of other associated benifits for both a company/sculptor and AdeptiCon. ( teaching classes, networking, spending time with me, etc .. )
But in short, anyone that wants one of these models should in short order be able to make arrangements to get one.
I agree with the bulk of your post, muwhe, but your conclusion doesn't follow from the rest.
I don't object in principle to limited edition, collectable or otherwise special figures – and anything that benefits Victoria Miniatures and allows Vic more leverage to produce more of her great stuff gets the thumbs up from me.
I'm based in the UK and keen to get this lovely figure, so I've asked some US friends if they can pick one up for me. If I can't get hold of it, it's a shame, but it's not something I'll get my knickers in a twist about.
The female Arcadian Col. Sgt model is undoubtedly a gorgeous looking miniature, but as for all of us that won't be going to Adepticon, yeah OK sucks a bit that we won't be able to get her but don't forget all Vic's models are modular, I dare say when the full Arcadian range is released you might be able to recreate, if not in her entirety, but something pretty damn close with a modicum of converting effort, so for me no big deal.
If this is a preview of the standard set by Vic for the new Arcadians, both male and female, I can't wait!
Yeah, let's steer clear of blaming Vic in any way over this. Access to the one offs would be nice, but there are very specific and good reasons as to why that might not/cannot happen. In the end, she brings us entire miniature ranges and I think this offsets being deprived of one or two minis.
To be honest I don't have an issue with event only models it is a way of promoting a company and the event, hell it used to encourage me to go to the forge world open day (until they charged for it and the tickets sell out before I get one ).
Annoying yes I understand but big deal no not really, if it was possible maybe a copy of the miniature could be produced with an alternative standard top, this way you would have the same pose but without the Aepticon exclusive mini aspect.
I don't know if that is possible but it would work for me and hopefully most people, although if anyone is attending the event and does not want their miniature or can pick another one up please by all means PM as I would be interested in one
VikingChild wrote: I dare say when the full Arcadian range is released you might be able to recreate, if not in her entirety, but something pretty damn close with a modicum of converting effort, so for me no big deal.
I would assume it will be the same as the Adepticon beastmen leader she did, the legs, body and head will be the same as the ones from the kit while the arms will be unique.
I know it isn't ideal, but I thought I'd mention that I've never had a problem getting an Adepticon limited figure off of eBay- and I don't think the amount I had to pay to get them was unreasonable (mostly because I can't remember what I had to pay out... if it was bad I'd recall it ).
Female Arcadian looks good, if the squads turn out like that you'll be making quite a few customers happy.
It's a beautiful sculpt and I'm looking forward to the rest of them. No worries though. I'm waiting for the new Codex before I make any more purchases, though I'm sorely tempted to buy another squad of Tannenberg soldiers.
The Adepticon mini is great - so good job Vic! It actually got me interested in going to Adepticon (I hadn't ever even looked at their site before - never been to a wargame convention before) when I saw it, so the idea behind the limited ed figs is solid.
In the future though, it would help if they are announced while the con still has event/seminar seats left. I was ready to buy a ticket and look for a hotel, and then I saw that pretty much all the events/seminars are sold out. What's left isn't enough to keep my wife and I from being bored with nothing to do most of the four day weekend. Such is life I suppose.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: So, AdeptiCon often pays artists money to alienate large swaths of their fanbase, in essence sabotaging themselves? Whose side are they on?
I apologize for any frustration caused. I was commissioned by Adepticon to sculpt this. Doing so, makes if financially possible for me to be there. (otherwise I could not afford to travel from the other side of the world) The exclusive policy is their rules not mine.
This was recently posted on the Adepticon site by the organizer William Edley:
We certainly will work with you and anyone that wants to get a copy of this model. ; )
Wow, - Hopefully I won’t speak for Victoria here but:
AdeptiCon produces between 1500-2000 casts of each AdeptiCon model giveaway and we include the figure till we run out of swag bag material. In past years that has been in the area of 1500 bags. We say “1000” as that is the target number for other vendor material. We also set aside a number of them for sale at the show to anyone that wants to pick up extras. In fact, we generally have all previous years models available onsite for sale. As we produce this particular aspect of the swag bag we have more flexibility.
In the case of a company/sculptor who is actually attending AdeptiCon. Doing an AdeptiCon commission offsets the out of pocket costs associated with attending making attendance for smaller companies, especially in the case of an international one, more feasible. It also puts direct product in the hands of a target audience giving people firsthand experience with their work. Many of us know the amazing work that Victoria does but as crazy as it sounds a large number of hobbyists have yet to hear of it and a greater percentage have yet to see it. So putting a Victoria miniature in the hands of the audience of what is arguably the largest miniature war gaming convention in the world not only makes sense but ultimately leads to more sales, which in turn means more fantastic work from Victoria for the rest of us!
There is a whole list of other associated benifits for both a company/sculptor and AdeptiCon. ( teaching classes, networking, spending time with me, etc .. )
But in short, anyone that wants one of these models should in short order be able to make arrangements to get one.
I also want to add I am not manufacturing this mini, Adepticon is. I am just the commission sculptor.
I will buy one, record myself melting it, and make it my new pic.
Troll enough for you?
Minis are awesome, but come on folks. Limited means limited. Done that way for a reason.
I believe Insaniak said it best: Where that event happens to be located is kind of irrelevant. If it was in Melbourne, it would be equally unobtainable for many Australians.
I wanted to go to the Super Bowl - it's in the US but guess what? Couldn't afford to get to New Jersey.
H.B.M.C. wrote: It's on topic. This is an Australian company making a product that Australians cannot get, yet people half the world away can get.
It's an Australian company making a product that only those people who attend a specific event can get.
Where that event happens to be located is kind of irrelevant. If it was in Melbourne, it would be equally unobtainable for many Australians.
But that's kind of the point. It's a way of encouraging people to attend that event.
Agreed. I'm living in America (and a former resident of metro area Adepticon is held) and I have no special way of getting the mini beyond that of any Aussie. It's an event mini and not tied to some other contract or deal like a Kickstarter. If you want it, choose one of the following...
1) Go to the event.
2) Make a deal with someone going to the event via your friend's list or a swap shop thread.
3) Buy it off of the secondary market.
Oh, and since HBMC is quoted, I'll add his trademark:
Guys, believe me, I feel your pain. It's pretty terrible, in some respects, that it's a limited mini - but in others, well, you get exclusive stuff if you go to the P3 con, so it's not really any different.
Now, maybe CanCon should get it's own mini as well, but that's up to CanCon and the people they want to talk to/commission. (Canberra club guys, this is a good idea to do since you're the largest con in the southern hemisphere... even if I can't get up to it from Taswegia!)
On the positive side, you WILL see 'em up on ebay afterwards like with any other limited edition thing, so there's always hope.
Anyway, back to work for me if I'm to have any hope of getting some nifty things finished (at least the models for them) by the time of the new Guard 'dex!
I understand exactly why these kinds of promotional figures are made. It still doesn't make it less annoying. I find the mindset behind Limited Editions, both creating and especially collecting, unpleasant. It does make me think less of a company when they release a lot of limited collections and engage in the whole status-symbol market; I haven't bought anything from Wyrd after they essentially turned their kickstarter into a series of velvet rope collectors' clubs with Santana and Miss Terious in the Champagne Room.
Long story short, there are a lot--a lot--of smaller sellers and manufacturers out there who are all great people and who really deserve my money, so it saves me a lot of money whenever one of them gives me even the most minor, selfish reason to associate them with a sense of 'nope'.
If we are just talking about Vic here, rather than the larger topic of 'I only want it because you can't have it' items, then she's pretty safe. Her models are great quality and fulfill an untapped niche, so they should do pretty well. The limited edition thing won't make that big of a difference for me, even if I sympathize with my offended Australian brothers. I was planning to buy a bunch last Christmas, but they didn't come out. Therefore, I will almost certainly buy a bunch next Christmas, when I have more spending money. You know, unless the DFG Black Widows come out and scratch my proverbial professional-women-soldiers itch first...
Uriels_Flame wrote: I will buy one, record myself melting it, and make it my new pic.
Troll enough for you?
Only if you use a Nightmare Edition Lord Chompy Bits as her scenic base.
Though I'm not a fan of that figure, I am honestly stoked at the squads that Vic's going to be producing. Will the figures go along well with the old school metals? I'm so in if they are, and will probibly be stripping the old ones and coming up with a newer scheme for them. Between the Prisoners and that beastman crew, the sample so far really has me interested in scrounging up a couple of APC's, and some tanks for the new army I'm thinking up.
I won't get into the LE issue that Wierd crapped out, except to say that it was done and continues to be done horrible in concept and practice. If anything it ended up turning me off to LE figures entirly.
Kudos to Vic's talent. I want to buy a few more squads from you just to keep you in business.
vic wrote: Ha, just realized you guys beat me to it Thanks for the feedback and comments.
Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, as you see her here is only available at Adepticon, but will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis mailing list here:
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/
To those in Australia wanting one- didn't you see insaniak is going to AdeptiCon? Ask him to pick one up for you and arrange to get it from him when he's back in Aus. Easy! They sell extras at the event.
As muwhe said, their commissioning her to sculpt (not cast, as they do that) this mini gives her line exposure, allows her to attend the event- all positives.
Heck, if you want one and will pay to have it shipped to you, I'll pick one up for anyone who wants one (PM me). You'd likely do best having someone in your country do so, of course, but from Aus I know at least insaniak and Waaagh_Gonads are attending.
So, Azazel you can easily get the fig if you'd like it . The commission gives her range exposure, lets her attend the convention to get more exposure, and end result will be more miniatures created by her. It certainly got this thread rocking
Seriously lads, PM me if you want one, or look for a deal on eBay after the fact- that was actually the cheaper route to go for the Brushfire model last year (although that may not be the case with this mini).
Automatically Appended Next Post: Finally, some of you have points about "LE figures generally", particularly Malifaux's (it actually put me off starting it). But if you want THIS limited edition figure, you can have it! So please no huge soap boxes in here . Just PM me or take one of the other routes posted above to easily get it.
I'd like to know how to get that crisp of detail into those resin figures? Is it about the master, or sort of resin are you using that fits the bill in the quality of the sculpts?
Thats an excellent looking figure there, and if the squads are that tight, I'd like to go on record and say I'd like a platoon deal, if your going to have one.
DarkTraveler777 wrote: I am torn on Limited Edition figures. As a collector I love them...
Why? Do you derive pleasure from the fact that other people can't have things they want?
To be blunt, as a collector yes, but if you are looking to peg your disappointment with limited edition items on the backs of evil collectors allow me to elaborate.
Personally, as in I am speaking as a regular guy and not a collector of toy soldiers, I don't relish that other people can't have an item because I am a selfish dick that likes to see people sad. Far from it. I'd love for everyone to have everything they ever wanted. That isn't realistic, but it would be nice. However, in regards to luxury items like toys and miniatures I ultimately don't care if you can't have something you want. We aren't talking about necessities like food or water that, when deprived of, cause people to suffer. Again, we are talking about luxury items that are merely for entertainment. You missing out on an item that I was able to get does give me a tickle--as a collector. Because it makes my collection stand out that much more from those who weren't able to add the new hotness to their collection.
Having a collection of anything is ultimately a passion project on the part of the collector. A frivolous passion project that eats up resources. When you, as a collector, meet like-minded people who share your passion for a thing it isn't unnatural to want to distinguish your collection from other such collections of things. LE items do just that. They allow collectors with expendable resources to make their passion projects a little shinier, a little more special.
Now the expenditure of resources can be in the time and money to attend an event, the skill need to win a prize at an event, or it can represent the additional money required to purchase LE items through middlemen. Either way, it allows one person's epeen to swing mightier than others who lack the resources to track down their missing baubles. It isn't personal, baby, it is just business.*
Has there been any update on when the Arcadians will be released?
DarkTraveler777 wrote: Either way, it allows one person's epeen to swing mightier than others who lack the resources to track down their missing baubles. It isn't personal, baby, it is just business.*
Generally, any products that encourage [e]peen swinging should be boycotted.
And I'm not just saying that because collector-driven marketing decisions are what made toy companies produce fewer Darth Vaders, Battlestar Galacticas, Optimus Primes, or whatever toy people actually would enjoy playing with, just so that collectors could have their mint condition box because they could afford a pallet full of the mooks, jawas, Caprica Ones, and Barricades that contained the one good toy. Well, maybe. Damn I hate collectors and the things toy companies do to fleece them.
*And we all know miniatures are serious business.
Hobbies keep us sane. Until the medication becomes unaffordably expensive.
Will there be any " special or assault" weapons coming out?
Thanks, yes, new weapons are currently at the printers.
I am planning to launch a pre-order for the Arcadians (girls and boys). Possibly shipping in May, depending on casting capacity.
Also looking at having a limited number of pre-release squads for sale at Adepticon, TBC.
I would love to have these available to everyone right now, but the reality of getting stuff cast means it will take a bit longer.
Cheers, V
And I'm not just saying that because collector-driven marketing decisions are what made toy companies produce fewer Darth Vaders, Battlestar Galacticas, Optimus Primes, or whatever toy people actually would enjoy playing with, just so that collectors could have their mint condition box because they could afford a pallet full of the mooks, jawas, Caprica Ones, and Barricades that contained the one good toy. Well, maybe. Damn I hate collectors and the things toy companies do to fleece them.
You had trouble finding Battlestars? I assume you're talking about the titanium line. Granted they weren't the majority of spots on the pegs but they just sat around unsold in stores locally for me. I didn't buy mine at a discount (they didn't languish that long) but I had no trouble finding multiples.
Just FYI to anyone interested, I've had 4 people ask me to pick up the LE model for them at AdeptiCon. I'd be willing to do so for a few more people as well (was thinking to cap it at 6, but if more than that really NEED it, then I will oblige ).
Will be sending instructions later this week and would like to do so all in one go, so please message me if you want one.
I'd also just like to reiterate that these are, therefore, available to anyone that wants one, albiet it for a limited time... so, if you want one, please climb down off your "exclusive figures soapbox" and PM me, and you can have it
Got it, Splod . I've mostly been looking to do this for US folks, since the shipping is much cheaper, but will see if I can get one of the Australians attending to "smuggle" it back for you
RiTides wrote: Just FYI to anyone interested, I've had 4 people ask me to pick up the LE model for them at AdeptiCon. I'd be willing to do so for a few more people as well (was thinking to cap it at 6, but if more than that really NEED it, then I will oblige ).
Will be sending instructions later this week and would like to do so all in one go, so please message me if you want one.
I'd also just like to reiterate that these are, therefore, available to anyone that wants one, albiet it for a limited time... so, if you want one, please climb down off your "exclusive figures soapbox" and PM me, and you can have it
You are a mentsch. I really appreciate your offer. I can't afford to accept it, but it really gets me here [points to chest cavity].
You had trouble finding Battlestars? I assume you're talking about the titanium line. Granted they weren't the majority of spots on the pegs but they just sat around unsold in stores locally for me. I didn't buy mine at a discount (they didn't languish that long) but I had no trouble finding multiples.
Yeah. I couldn't find any in the many Targets and Walmarts I searched in SoCal and the bay area. Found some Pegasuses and a ton of Caprica One, though. I admit I stopped looking sometime around the midpoint of season 3...
Well, I've had 10 people contact me about the LE mini, so if 1 or 2 more want in on it I will add them in, but that's going to be about it!
I'm sure some will be on ebay for the first month or two after the convention for anyone who is in Bob's situation. Last year the minis were actually even cheaper that way, you would just be taking a small risk in betting that you could get one via that route.
I've PM'ed everyone who contacted me instructions now, so we should be good to go . I also told muwhe I was planning to do this and he was in favor of the idea, so there should be no issues. My only concern was vaguely remembering a "limit 5" on buying the LE minis; if that were the case I'll just have my roommate at the event buy the other 5
Yeah. This and the broo quite frankly make me not want to buy any more of Vic's minis. Sure, they're great models, but they're premium priced (and in US dollars!) and there's no shortage of things I want to buy out there, so this kind of thing just drops Vic to the bottom of my pile.
Holy crap, that's awful that Vic would accept a commission from a game convention and get paid to produce a miniature. Saints Preserve Us from such arrogance!
Hey, you know what I bet? If an Australian convention wanted to commission a miniature from one of their local and wildly talented sculptors, I'd bet she'd agree!
Azazelx wrote: Yeah. This and the broo quite frankly make me not want to buy any more of Vic's minis. Sure, they're great models, but they're premium priced (and in US dollars!) and there's no shortage of things I want to buy out there, so this kind of thing just drops Vic to the bottom of my pile.
More for the rest of us. I'm surprised by your reaction. I'm proud as hell of her. She's truly one of the few companies out there that listen to us and frankly seem to give a damn.
I don't get why convention minis have to be exclusive to people present at the convention. Couldn't they be part of the free swag bag for attendees but also available for sale through the convention website to generate funds and interest for all involved?
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I don't get why convention minis have to be exclusive to people present at the convention. Couldn't they be part of the free swag bag for attendees but also available for sale through the convention website to generate funds and interest for all involved?
Some do just that. It would depend on what they intend the miniature to do for them... If they just want a few extra dollars in the till, the certainly website sales are an option. But if the miniature is intended as an incentive to encourage attendance, not so much.
There's also the added hassle of having to pack and ship orders, at a time when they're potentially rather busy organising a convention already...
I have always found Vics miniatures more than fairly priced especially for the quality, versatility and design she produces, on top of this she has always listened to customer feedback and responded to input.
As one of the major independent miniature produces out their she is at the top of my list, you will always have my commitment to your range and money thanks and well done
Also, Victoria isn't producing these, adepticon is. And outcomes few of their models are really limited edition. They are limited inwwhere and wheb you can buy them, but most of them seem available.
I don't get why convention minis have to be exclusive to people present at the convention. Couldn't they be part of the free swag bag for attendees but also available for sale through the convention website to generate funds and interest for all involved?
Ok, I’ll try and answer this and a few other questions. Sorry Vic for any further thread derailment.
1. We are extremely flexible in the way we work with sculptors and companies. Our goal is not to provide some ultra rare chase item that only a select few will have an opportunity to get.
2. Additionally, I know it seems intuitive that the reason we do these models would be to drive attendance. I am not sure that was really ever the case, but it certainly is not the case today. The AdeptiCon webcart goes live in November, and sells out of our “main” events in 24-48 hours this sort of giveaway item is never announced until months later as they get finalized. Sometimes they never get announced and just show up in the bag. The goal is really simple to provide something to our attendees, who are already coming, that is cool and awesome! If the model or some other swag bag giveaway has the side effect on motivating someone to come to and experience AdeptiCon great.
We can do the above in a number of ways but generally falls into two camps.
1. A company may provide something existing or design something special to give away at AdeptiCon. . In this case the company provides for the design, creation, production and packaging. The company because obviously they are baring all the costs retains complete ownership of the item. This can get pretty expensive, and can be out of reach for many smaller companies.
2. We can straight out commission a piece from a sculptor or company directly. In this case they get compensated for the design and creation of the product. AdeptiCon then handles the production and packaging. We are generally flexible in the marketing in these cases and work that into the arrangements. But in the end AdeptiCon retains the “rights” to what is produced because we principally shoulder the costs to do it.
Now, as to your question sure we certainly could sell the AdeptiCon models year round. But it creates really two issues.
1. When you sell merchandise year round. It creates more book work, and additional paperwork that we like to avoid. AdeptiCon is already a mind numbing amount of those involved, we all have real jobs, families etc..
2. Additionally when you sell or raffle items on the “internet” outside the context and boundaries of the event location. It can create “responsibilities and problems” that we generally like to avoid. Different locations and sometimes countries have different laws and regulations that we then would have to be on top of and in compliance. If you were going to do enough volume it might be worth it. However, more importantly ..
3. We do not want to be in competition with our sponsors and vendors. As such we limit the sale of these items to the show.
Again, I will state that anyone that really wants one of these should with little effort be able to get one. Victoria, those members of dakkadakka that, are attending and AdeptiCon will no doubt work to make that happen.
Really would like to hear more about a timetable on the squaddies.
Adepticon is what it is. You really don't have to go to get one, just wait a bit and they will more then likly have a few more out there in generals.
Not interested in her, I think she needs more gunsor weapons options, but the style, crispness of the cast, and the lines on that figure really have me stoked for more of her mates.
Probibly going to paint them old school desert, or urban camo. I've got a squad of the old school plastic stormtroopers that would fit in pretty well with them as filler troops.
A little preview. Soon to be available for pre-order, the brave boys of the Arcadian Rifles, Vic Minis latest fully modular squad. They will soon be joined by their equally indomitable female comrades. watch this space.
Cheers, V
feth feth feth feth feth, this just popped up on Facebook:
Some more wonderful work from the talented Jake Schneider. This bike will be produced as a mount for the Vic Minis rough riders later this year. The finished model will come in four parts and also include stowage options. Model going to print soon, all feedback at this stage, very much appreciated. Cheers, Vic.
Alpharius wrote: Are Rough Riders for certain in the upcoming IG Codex?
I know it is probably too early to tell, or know for sure, but I certainly hope they are.
I don't think GW would take out that unit. They haven't had a new model since 2nd edition, but GW's been pretty good at keeping old models supported with rules; it's the new units without models that are the ones at risk!
The Arcadians look excellent, and those bikes look like fun mounts for them.
BrookM wrote: feth feth feth feth feth, this just popped up on Facebook:
Some more wonderful work from the talented Jake Schneider. This bike will be produced as a mount for the Vic Minis rough riders later this year. The finished model will come in four parts and also include stowage options. Model going to print soon, all feedback at this stage, very much appreciated. Cheers, Vic.
These will be my first Vic purchase. Exactly what I've been looking for.
While the bike is neat, I really wish Victoria would sculpt some special weapons arms that could be used for the various regiments in her catalog. Those arms/weapons would be infinitely more useful than bikes, or heavy weapon gun carriages, especially for people making squads with the upcoming 6th edition Guard codex. Every Guard player will need not-meltas, not-plasmas, and not-flamers in their list. Fewer will want heavy weapons and rough riders (unless there are some monumentally better rules for those units in the new codex). It just seems like a missed opportunity for a one stop shopping experience leaving those weapon options off the table.
While the bike is neat, I really wish Victoria would sculpt some special weapons arms that could be used for the various regiments in her catalog. Those arms/weapons would be infinitely more useful than bikes, or heavy weapon gun carriages, especially for people making squads with the upcoming 6th edition Guard codex. Every Guard player will need not-meltas, not-plasmas, and not-flamers in their list. Fewer will want heavy weapons and rough riders (unless there are some monumentally better rules for those units in the new codex). It just seems like a missed opportunity for a one stop shopping experience leaving those weapon options off the table.
Yeah, I agree here. I can see myself buying some of her models, but I'd need meltas, plasma, and flamers to really consider it on anything other than a one off or goof.
While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.
warboss wrote: While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.
this would be a first though, to remove a unit that has had rules and models for decades (since Rogue Trader, even), with no really clear "counts as" possibility.
Bike is super cool, but needs to come with a variety of legs to fit it, and maybe arms too - both are painfully difficult to convert, as I know from previous personal experience trying to convert an ork biker squad a while back...
warboss wrote: While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.
this would be a first though, to remove a unit that has had rules and models for decades (since Rogue Trader, even), with no really clear "counts as" possibility.
warboss wrote: While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.
this would be a first though, to remove a unit that has had rules and models for decades (since Rogue Trader, even), with no really clear "counts as" possibility.
You mean like they did with the griffon?
I used mine as a basilisk, which was IMO a pretty clear counts as. They also kept the rules in the IA books.
I see your point, but I struggle to think of any comparable way to get any use out of Rough Rider models.
@Polonius: why not use the DKK lists? I have 20 of her not-Mordians cavalry bodies, arms, heads, and lances, and if they get Squatted, that's what I'll do.
austinitor wrote: @Polonius: why not use the DKK lists? I have 20 of her not-Mordians cavalry bodies, arms, heads, and lances, and if they get Squatted, that's what I'll do.
Oh, I"m not worried about it. I haven't used rough riders since 4th edition. No area terrain hurt them hard, and no charging from reserves was the death blow.
I have, literally, 13,000 points of IG. I have plenty to play with regardless of the new codex.
I used mine as a basilisk, which was IMO a pretty clear counts as. They also kept the rules in the IA books.
I see your point, but I struggle to think of any comparable way to get any use out of Rough Rider models.
And the removal of them a model that hasn't recieved an update in 20 years and is no longer offered for sale (a much less safe bet than the griffon was since it was as modern as any other IG tank kit and available for sale right before getting erased) doesn't change their presence in the IA books. Again.. this is just my educated guess but if we don't start hearing rumors of a plastic kit for the unit coming very soon after the codex then I'd expect them to be relegated to IAFW ally status. Much like your griffon doubled as a basilisk, your attilans suddenly sprout bionics and double as DKK. Buying bikes as a counts as for a unit that is no longer sold by GW is a risky purchase IMO until they're confirmed in the upcoming codex. YMMV. I'd have killed for a resin kit like this a few years ago and still have dozens of pics from online searches about converting them but I wouldn't do it today until I saw them in the codex.
Are these guns still on the way Vic? Those Arcadians are incredible, I just like the look of this style of lasgun for the Arcadians. Either way I'm already setting back money for a few squads. Other than my personal preference for the other kind of rifle, these models are perfect. Some of your best work by far!
The sarge in particular looks great. He really brings to mind some of the character that those old Guard models had. *Also just noticed the second guy from the right has what looks like a pack of cigarettes stuck in the band of his helmet, that's a pretty awesome one too!.
Vic wrote:Hi, thanks for all the feedback on the concept sketch. I have been working with the ever patient Jake Schneider on this new Las Gun. It will have a sight and bayonet option and we are working on a shorter variant with a folded stock. Also, up and coming is an auto gun version and a digital sculpt of the Plasma Gun sketch previewed recently. Cheers, V
vic wrote: A little preview. Soon to be available for pre-order, the brave boys of the Arcadian Rifles, Vic Minis latest fully modular squad. They will soon be joined by their equally indomitable female comrades. watch this space.
Cheers, V
vic wrote: Thanks for the comments, big release coming this week. In the meantime...fresh of the printer.....
Awesome! Can't wait to see how they look with some arms attached.
I've gotta say, I like the look of all of them. The plasma pistol looks a little weedy, but then again it's actually able to be held in one hand unlike how most GW plasma pistols are. Some of those things are the size of a toaster oven
I would like to see a left hand for the option to use your weapons with other arms. I am looking forward to the female arcadian squad. The plasma pistol looks actual size for IG. I really like the look of the knife.
Amazing work, I am so excited about those weapons, especially that sniper rifle. Wow, it looks amazing. Any chance you'll make pouches for those cool looking magazines it uses?
stanman wrote: Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?
He's had bikes and Heavy Weapons out for some time now (I have them) but more choices are always good. My squad of Curious Constructs bikes uses Vic's resin pith helmet with goggles heads. You cam mix and match to your heart's content.
Alright, so there are rumours of them striking the rough riders from the 'dex. There's also rumours about a plastic rough riders kit, so really, your guess is as good as mine.
At the risk of sounding snarky... if by "Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?" you mean "has two wheels", then yes. Then again, that also means a Vespa is the same as a Harley, and a BMW is a Yamaha.
In regards to the left/right question - Victoria and I already have something planned to address this. (And by "Victoria and I", I mean, she told me to deal with it and I am in the process of complying).
stanman wrote:Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?
alphaecho wrote:
stanman wrote: Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?
He's had bikes and Heavy Weapons out for some time now (I have them) but more choices are always good. My squad of Curious Constructs bikes uses Vic's resin pith helmet with goggles heads. You cam mix and match to your heart's content.
faolan wrote:
At the risk of sounding snarky... if by "Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?" you mean "has two wheels", then yes. Then again, that also means a Vespa is the same as a Harley, and a BMW is a Yamaha.
To add my 2 pence on that particular topic (actually my bikes have been out for about a year now) as with the Heavy Weapons question I completely agree that more choice is only a good thing, both for the individual hobbiest and for 'the industry'. It means more options for us as hobbiests, and continues to drive improvements in whats available - I'll certainly be revisiting my own bikes in the future. In terms of aesthetics, well we're all working from similar themes, similarities are unavoidable (I also know Jake went to some lengths to avoid too many similarities), and finally its always worth noting I was'nt the first to offer Guard appropriate Bikes either, there are at least a couple of other offerings at least out there as well if you look at other similar businesses.
Now I don't know if thats a common view for everyone in the said industry, but it is mine (though I'd not go as far as to put myself in the same league as the likes of Vic), and thats while you'll find from the outset when Vic first dropped her Victorian Roughriders they appeared on my blog popular Praetorian IG blog alongside my own offerings. Certainly I've had plenty of communications with Vic in the past, right down to recommending Jake to her in fact. I've similar links and communications with the likes of Mad Robot, Zinge Industries, Anvil and others. In my mind its how things work.
Anyway, as I've said to Jake before, very nice work, and further more can't wait to see more of Vic's Arcadians!
I totally agree with Col Gravis you will always find similarities but there will always be variations as well, I have some of the Col Gravis bikes they are great and I will be getting some more in the future also I will be purchasing some of Vics bikes.
There are several companies with similar lines this cant be helped, but that also gives options which is greatly appreciated and needed.
Those Arcadians and weapons look pretty swell, though I must admit, I'm likely to hold out for the more "modern" weapons. The more anachronistic lasrifles, while perfect for the other regiments, looks somewhat out of place here.
vic wrote: A little preview. Soon to be available for pre-order, the brave boys of the Arcadian Rifles, Vic Minis latest fully modular squad. They will soon be joined by their equally indomitable female comrades. watch this space.
Cheers, V
faolan wrote: Alright, so there are rumours of them striking the rough riders from the 'dex. There's also rumours about a plastic rough riders kit, so really, your guess is as good as mine.
At the risk of sounding snarky... if by "Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?" you mean "has two wheels", then yes. Then again, that also means a Vespa is the same as a Harley, and a BMW is a Yamaha.
In regards to the left/right question - Victoria and I already have something planned to address this. (And by "Victoria and I", I mean, she told me to deal with it and I am in the process of complying).
Can't wait to see how the lefty versions turn out man. The weapons look excellent.
Orks have some excellent options to use for the shoulders for the old Cadians too by the looks, with some small modifications. Depending on scale, but they should be close enough... the shoulders ont he old Cadians look pretty big, and all seem to be different/improvised.
I think you'll find most of the Ork pads to be oversized for the human shoulders. Your best bet would be to get a plasticard tube, cut it in half lengthways and cut to size.
Really excited to see more from you Vic. Would be good to see some more special weapon options, to give people a wider variety of choices for that grim-dark game.
I've been looking for some transports to fit with your Highlanders, and am thinking of butchering some C8 Morris Tractors. Of course, I wouldn't have to if you made some of your own
My next company commander is going to be patterned after that sarge with the goggles, the taped bolter mags and the crazed battlecry
And yes I will be buying a squad of female Acadians when they come out just to make my army a little less of a sausagefest.... Love your work Vic, keep it up, its fun to see what an artist is working on.
Thanks for the comments,
In the meantime, the great Jake Schneider has been busy. Check out this amazing tank he has designed and sculpted. It is roughly the size of a Leman Russ, and has interchangeable tracks. This would be the biggest project Vic Minis has ever produced, Jake and I would love to hear your feedback and can't wait to produce this as a fine resin kit. Comments please
Cheers, V
Love the coaxial weapon replacing the pintle mount, and the slightly more practical turret to main gun ratio... Although I think the hull gun protrudes too far.
Wow. That's an interesting looking tank. I'm not quite sure what about it's design has grabbed my interest so much but there's something going on there. What that something is though, I'm not sure.
Here's a few thoughts.
- Interesting mix of soft and hard angles. The hull has got nice hard angles while the copula and hull front is nice and rounded. This could be the something I mentioned above. Still don't know yet.
- I like that it's got a long almost rectangular Chimera shaped body as opposed to the leany square that the Leman Russ has.
- It's got a nice kind of WW2 aesthetic going for it, yet it still has a sci-fi kind of feel to it. I think it's the space-agey looking gun on the hull and round copula that does it.
- Would this tank kit have a range of weapon options? If so, then what kind of weapons?
- What does "interchangeable tracks" mean? Will there be a range of tracks available at some point or will you be offering wheels as well? I'm not quite sure what interchangeable tracks means. This could just be me being dense though.
- Considering that GW Leman Russes are grossly overpriced at $83AUD what kind of price are we looking at for this tank here? Rough estimate even?
- Lastly, and rather unrelatedly. The trooper used for scale. He is a glimpse at a possible future release?
I've tried my hardest to keep the look, while keeping things in the right shape/sizes to work in place of... other.... things.
There has been a lot of thought put into interchangeability of weapons, and while I'm not in a position to comment (damn that leash!), rest assured that such concerns have been taken into account.
As I can't really go into details (yet!), I'll have to ask you to trust me on this, as I am a modeller myself and I always taken into account what would I want in a kit/figure/gun/bag.
I started 3d modelling and sculpting as a gamer, albeit originally for computer games, and refined it into productionable stuff so that I could have things I would want to play with around.
Victoria and I are very much eye to eye on many things, and most importantly are these two principles: design things you want to play with/paint/have on your shelf, and modularity.
So, knowing what you do about V's figures and options and swapping stuff around, I will let you make your own educated guesses as to what may be in store for this beastie.
If it is a Leman proxy I'll advise you to make the turret a little bit wider, just to accomodate every crew member comfortably.
And maybe do the track a little bit wider, just to give it a more "aggressive" feeling.
I have some minor critiques but overall I think it looks awesome.
1.) I'd like it if the main gun was perhaps a slightly smaller caliber, and the barrel were perhaps a bit longer. Though, perhaps this is the short barrelled siege gun, and not the main battle cannon.
2.) Not crazy about the hex bolts instead of smaller rivets, but I know sometimes things can look "off" in CAD and look alright on the tabletop.
3.) The twin pintle-mount gun seems a little too long. I think either the forward part of the barrel should extend further into the shroud, or the shroud should extend further into the barrel, but not equidistant as they are now.
The rest of it I really like a lot. The tanks on the rear, the heat vents for the engine, the styling, they're all really nice looking. Interchangeable tracks? Bananas! I can't wait to get one of these.
What are the vent things in the side armor for on the original tank?
What are the vent things in the side armor for on the original tank?
Don't take me only addressing this particular part as dismissing the rest, but like I said, currently there's only so much I can say!
The "vent things" on the original side armour are sand/soil dumps - a lot of it can get carried up on the return trip, and if the track armour (which is basically what this is, an early side skirt that's in addition to the main armour behind the track) was solid, it would eventually clog up and stop the tracks/tear the hell out of them.
It is, to me, a very distinctive feature of the tank, gives it personality.
Also, coincidentally, it could be a good way to sneak in/on sponson based weapons...
I'm not a fan of the tank. It's too much a straight copy of the Matilda and not enough a spiritual successor. The same sort of details applied to a tank with a more modern silhouette would be my first thought.
vic wrote: Thanks for the comments,
In the meantime, the great Jake Schneider has been busy. Check out this amazing tank he has designed and sculpted. It is roughly the size of a Leman Russ, and has interchangeable tracks. This would be the biggest project Vic Minis has ever produced, Jake and I would love to hear your feedback and can't wait to produce this as a fine resin kit. Comments please
Cheers, V
Really liking that tank, kinda hoping the final model isn't too far off from that.
If the guy is 28mm, the tank is way too big. I'm pretty sure it's just a scale error, unless that hull mounted gun is supposed to be a 75mm
The turret cupola looks a bit too tall, and I would probably angle the hull and turret sides a bit more, to give it a look that's somewhere between WW2 and modern. I would also hope for some stowage bins and interchangeable guns.
prowla wrote: If the guy is 28mm, the tank is way too big. I'm pretty sure it's just a scale error, unless that hull mounted gun is supposed to be a 75mm
The turret cupola looks a bit too tall, and I would probably angle the hull and turret sides a bit more, to give it a look that's somewhere between WW2 and modern. I would also hope for some stowage bins and interchangeable guns.
Don't forget, it's also heroic scale, so some exaggeration for effect is definitely going on. It's a downright lovely tank though, I really like it.
I've never been a huge fan of British tank design, but I could see myself getting one of these.
Also, I'm torn on the main gun. Part of me wants it smaller to make it more reasonable, and part of me loves it.
What really bugs me is that if this was a "real" tank, you would have a hard time fitting a commander, a gunner, and a loader or loading mechanism into that turret with the size of that cannon. But that's because the Matilda its based on had a much smaller gun and you would have more space in the turret.
Honestly its up to you guys. I like the look of the tank, it just bugs me because I read far too much about tank design for it to be healthy. Its already massively improved compared to its main competition, so I could forgive the weird turret, or possibly even pick up another turret type and mount your excellent looking weapons on it.
I love that your going for close to a Matilda in appearance.
As a leman Russ sized tank I don't think I would buy it. If it was more in scale with the actual Matilda (see below) I would find it difficult not to pick one or two up.
I'm also not a fan of the giant bolts n washers on the skirt, but I don't know if it's just the pic making them look massive to me.
I second the idea for a sci fi Bren gun carrier, and hope that you make some Bren gun arms and separate Bren guns soon.
I personally love the tank as well, but the side looks a little bland. It's understandable that you want to follow the source Metilda tank design closely, but from a fantasy model perspective, the giant bolts on an otherwise smooth surface just looks plain.
Hello, I am so excited to reveal the long awaited, first regiments of the Arcadian Guard. The fully modular 10 Woman and 10 Man Arcadian Rifle squads.
It has been a huge challenge creating modular female troops. I am very happy with the results. The men and women all have the same uniforms and gear. These two squads are designed to mix flawlessly, giving collectors, for the first time, the flexibility to create mixed Guard forces.
These will be shipping in May / June 2014, on a first come first served basis.
Cheers, Vhttp://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/arcadian-guard?pagesize=12
Er, 100 of the limited edition model (in resin, I don't know about metal, but I think there will be metal in addition to the resin) as well as a limited number of the squads (unknown quantity).
Automatically Appended Next Post: They are also gonna be on the Secret Weapon Minis booth apparently.
Seriously amazing sculpts Vic! By far the best female guard I have ever seen, you have just got every proportion looking perfect and the fact that they blend seamlessly with the blokes is even better. Awesome stuff!
At Adepticon there will be
Color Sgt in metal (included in swag and available for sale)
Color Sgt in resin 100 LE only for sale.
100x female squad and 100x male squad available from the Secret Weapon Booth.
At Adepticon there will be
Color Sgt in metal (included in swag and available for sale)
Color Sgt in resin 100 LE only for sale.
100x female squad and 100x male squad available from the Secret Weapon Booth.
Excellent! Thanks!
Can't wait to pick some up. Your mini was the highlight of the swag bag last year and I expect it will be this year as well!