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Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/11/29 14:19:16


Post by: Alpharius


Apologist wrote:Cor, they look great. I'd like the no shoulder pad look, personally – it leaves future space for heavier troops to be built with breastplate torsos and shoulder pads.


Now that is a GREAT suggestion - please make it so!

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:As soon as the female Guard arrive my wallet is going to be running for cover.

Also I'm looking forward to seeing what the end results are.


Good point there - once they are available, I'll be placing a large order for many sets of each - they'll look great, and properly sized, next to my True Scale Alpha Legion!

Bull0 wrote:
These are really really good. I could do with pistol grips on the rifles - just a preference, for this more modern-looking outfit. I think the more traditional rifle look is totally fine for the other regiments in the range, like the highlanders, though.


Another great suggestion - hopefully this one can be made a reality too!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/11/29 15:30:15


Post by: Apologist


It's worth noting the Vic has already produced groin guards which extend the torso into a heavier-armoured look. With a more heavily-armoured set of helmets and the aforementioned arms (perhaps with the more heavy-duty rifle with pistol grip?) you'd be set for a without too much extra work...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/11/29 17:02:17


Post by: Smitty


 Apologist wrote:
It's worth noting the Vic has already produced groin guards which extend the torso into a heavier-armoured look. With a more heavily-armoured set of helmets and the aforementioned arms (perhaps with the more heavy-duty rifle with pistol grip?) you'd be set for a without too much extra work...


I used those groin guards on all of my Cadians because I run grenadiers (often overlooked, and yet soooooo good).


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/11/30 11:05:37


Post by: MrMoustaffa


Bull0 wrote:
 Frank&Stein wrote:


Old style Cadians anyone?


These are really really good. I could do with pistol grips on the rifles - just a preference, for this more modern-looking outfit. I think the more traditional rifle look is totally fine for the other regiments in the range, like the highlanders, though.

I've got good news for you then.

vic wrote:

I have been working on a new las-gun design. This is the first draft. The final sculpt will be done digitally. It is loosely inspired by an AK-47. Comments and feedback appreciated before revisions are done.
Thanks,
V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/11/30 13:30:16


Post by: Zwan1One


These guys look ready for Vietnam! Love the style and everything about what Vic has been releasing.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/11/30 14:18:18


Post by: EchoJ7


Just wanted to say that customer service is amazing and that the quality of the models surpass even the likes of Forgeworld


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/03 16:59:30


Post by: stormwell


Got some of Victoria's resin, genuinely impressed by the quality.

Do have a general question for people, anything I need to be aware of regarding working with resin?

I mean with regards to filing, etc?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/03 17:16:35


Post by: BrookM


Never had to do any filling with the resins from Vic. I do recommend a good cleaning before use.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/03 17:22:20


Post by: stormwell


 BrookM wrote:
Never had to do any filling with the resins from Vic. I do recommend a good cleaning before use.


Just some minor flash in places.

Presuming hot soapy water works fine?

Just never used resin before and haven't been able to find anything regarding Vic's resin.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/03 17:28:45


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


All resin dust is dangerous to breathe in

so all stuff that risks creating it (sanding/filing/scraping) should be done 'wet' or outdoors wearing a mask

(it's not advisable to sand etc indoors even with a mask as the dust is ultra light and will 'hang' in the air for ages)



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/03 17:34:34


Post by: Grot 6


Wet sand it. wear gloves and use a mask.

OUTSIDE, or out in the garage with the door open, otherwise.

Wash your hands after messing with the scraps and dust.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/03 18:24:49


Post by: stormwell


OK, thanks guys.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/06 13:32:53


Post by: hydrogenated1


I can honestly say you have made my day with the 2nd edition cadian style heads! The old perry sculpts are glorious.
will you be doing some rolled sleeve arms with the more 2nd ed looking armour?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/07 21:10:09


Post by: Ian Sturrock


Such beautiful work.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/08 03:22:18


Post by: vic


Shipping Delay :(
Due to an un-expected casting hold-up, I will be shipping out some orders later than expected. All orders will be filled, but the delay could take me to the end of the month. If you have an order that has not shipped and you would rather be refunded than wait, please contact me.
Very sorry about this, especially at this time of year. I will also be listing some of the squads as pre-orders while I catch up.
Big thanks to all for their support and patience.
You know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men....
V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/08 03:25:49


Post by: Yonan


Thanks for the clear communication Vic, always good to have.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/08 13:15:04


Post by: VikingChild


Phew, glad I ordered my stuff the other week then

Santa's bringing me some Broolians and more penal bits, can't wait!

edit;

Vic, just to let you know my package arrived today can't open it 'til Christmas though :(

Hope there's not too many disappointed Victoria Minis customers out there and you get whatever shipping issues sorted, although i'm always amazed at the speed at which I get my VM goodies from half the world away

Cheers!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/10 16:33:40


Post by: sphynx


Cannot express my excitement for these old style Cadian heads. If only there were more like you Vic!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/10 16:55:42


Post by: Grot 6


Do the resin and metal parts have issue being glued together?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/10 17:00:23


Post by: Alpharius


Not if you use super glue - I recommend Loctite!



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/10 17:02:46


Post by: DarkTraveler777


Would GW's glue work?

I just had some of Vic's beastmen roll in and some of their accessories were resin while the rest of the models are metal.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/10 18:20:53


Post by: Wehrkind


I prefer Gorilla Super Glue to Loctite for models. Loctite is good in that it sets fast, but doesn't have the strength I find. For metal. it can irk the hell outta me, though for plastic to plastic or resin to resin, it's fine unless it is a large part that provides leverage against the joint.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/10 18:28:11


Post by: BrookM


I use the army painter stuff myself, works like a charm, just remember to clean the parts before gluing them together.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/11 21:23:15


Post by: Barzam


Any chance we might someday see some Doughboys in a similar vein to the Death Korps?

Also, if I wanted to just have a couple figures to paint up, would it be more economical to buy the bits separetely, or would it actually be better to just get a whole squad?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/11 21:38:09


Post by: stormwell


 Barzam wrote:
Any chance we might someday see some Doughboys in a similar vein to the Death Korps?

Also, if I wanted to just have a couple figures to paint up, would it be more economical to buy the bits separetely, or would it actually be better to just get a whole squad?


Vic does Brodie Helmet heads, they're basically the same helmets given to the US Doughboys in WW1 and used by the US military as the M1917 helmet up until 1942.

http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/brodie-helmet-heads

Go for the Conscript Legs, Victorian Torso and the Rifle Arms and you'll have what you're looking for.

Got some of the legs and heads but I've got no use for 'em, PM me if you're interested.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/11 23:44:47


Post by: Barzam


That could work. Would one of the loose gas masks fit over the faces of those heads?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/12 11:14:40


Post by: stormwell


Oh, gas mask heads.

Would try Westwind for those.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/19 09:48:03


Post by: Lone Cat


 Frank&Stein wrote:


Old style Cadians anyone?


This one looks alot better (and more archaic) than GW 3rd edition Cadians meow.

wow! what's next? shall we have Mauser Gewehr 98 style lasrifle? (one-piece wooden reciever, one piece upper rail)



Also shall we have French Adrian helmet heads too?



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/20 12:41:16


Post by: sphynx


Ah Lone Cat no more ideas! I can't afford any more WW1 stuff right now!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2013/12/30 09:59:04


Post by: Sheep


Any more progress on the not Cadians? Please?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 08:22:03


Post by: vic


Hi, thanks for the comments.
Yes the male and female 'not cadians' now named 'Arcadians' are well on the way. A very badly timed casting hold up has delayed the release. I am doing all I can to get them out asap.
In the meantime, here is a preview of things to come in 2014. I have been working with the very cool digital artist, Jake Schneider to create a formidable heavy weapons battery. Here's one of the first.
Cheers, V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 08:31:31


Post by: Looky Likey


Is the gun chassis standard heavy weapon sized? I have a ton of spare heavy weapons but no frames to mount them on so if the chassis was available separately I would buy a fair few.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 08:34:49


Post by: Sheep


Thanks for the update.

Jake does good work, that's a very heavy looking rig, and suits the current models well.

Will there be different heavies for the Arcadians?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 09:29:20


Post by: Apologist


Great to hear some news. Even if it is a little unfortunate that the Arcadians are delayed, the heavy weapons are a lovely surprise.
Do you have any larger or morerecent WIPs of the Arcadians, Vic? I seem to remember you mentioning they'd have different rifles to the rest of the regiment, and I'd love to we them on the figures.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 09:39:01


Post by: vic


Cheers, the Arcadians will initially have the current las rifle. I plan to to an option later on with the new auto and las rifles that Jake has been working on become available.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 09:46:00


Post by: Snrub


Oh yeah that's nice looking.

Will you just be making laser cannons or will the range be expanded into other heavier weapons?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 10:42:28


Post by: vic


 Snrub wrote:
Oh yeah that's nice looking.

Will you just be making laser cannons or will the range be expanded into other heavier weapons?

The whole shebang, bang!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 11:02:10


Post by: Azazelx


That's a bloody nice artillery piece. Looking forward to seeing the range develop.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 11:15:39


Post by: Snrub


 vic wrote:

The whole shebang, bang!
Shiny.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 11:24:59


Post by: Splod


As I mentioned on FB, I love it. Can't wait to see what else is in the works.

What we really need are some reworked heavy weapon arms in resin with the armoured plates as per the newer arm sets.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 11:38:33


Post by: alphaecho


More choice for my Praetorians. Col Gravis recently did a nice set via Kickstarter but those are more of a generic Victorian Sci-Fi rather than having a 40 look.

Colour me interested in picking these up once I have seen the female Guardsmen, purchased more bits for kilted Praetorians...and more Rough Riders...and resin Tannenburgers......

I do like being spoilt for choice.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 12:24:49


Post by: Slinky


Very nice again, Vic. I went in for the Col Gravis KS specifically to accompany a planned force of your space-Victorians, just awaiting funds


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 16:30:49


Post by: Haighus


Looky Likey wrote:
Is the gun chassis standard heavy weapon sized? I have a ton of spare heavy weapons but no frames to mount them on so if the chassis was available separately I would buy a fair few.

I think this would be a great idea- I also have plenty of spare heavy weapons and could do with some gun carriages.

Also, when you say "the whole shebang, bang!" would that possibly include some Earthshaker and heavy mortar sized guns?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 17:14:45


Post by: Apologist


 vic wrote:
Cheers, the Arcadians will initially have the current las rifle. I plan to to an option later on with the new auto and las rifles that Jake has been working on become available.


Ah, spiffy. Jake's work is lovely, judging from the previews and the new gun carriage. Do you have a link to more of his work?
If you're planning on accessories for the carriage, can I suggest a little track unit to replace the wheels? That'd give some flexibility for a more futuristic look.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 17:37:21


Post by: austinitor


Love 'em, Vic! Certainly more along the lines of the aesthetic I prefer for such.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 17:59:55


Post by: BrookM


Love the heavy weapon design, it will certainly go well with the Tannenberg and Praetorian Guard.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 18:07:40


Post by: JB


 BrookM wrote:
Love the heavy weapon design, it will certainly go well with the Tannenberg and Praetorian Guard.

I second this statement!

Now I just need some special weapons other then fusion guns...especially not-plasma guns.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 18:18:51


Post by: Lockark


 JB wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Love the heavy weapon design, it will certainly go well with the Tannenberg and Praetorian Guard.

I second this statement!

Now I just need some special weapons other then fusion guns...especially not-plasma guns.


Personally I've like to see flamers and Field Cannons to equip my bassic infantry with.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 18:46:11


Post by: BrookM


I think the rest of the range will be filled up in due time, especially with someone else being brought aboard to handle the weaponry.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 19:24:06


Post by: Zwan1One


I guess this means we'll see gunner conversion parts to make crew from the infantry?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 19:32:16


Post by: BrookM


From the look of that gun design, it will probably be a guy with a remote control or something, as this design doesn't seem to feature any visible controls or optics.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 19:38:40


Post by: JoeRugby


I was going to try and convert las cannons similar to these.

Will there be, maybe an option for some smaller non metal plated wheels? More WW2 anti tank than si fy cannon



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/06 22:58:27


Post by: Haighus


 BrookM wrote:
From the look of that gun design, it will probably be a guy with a remote control or something, as this design doesn't seem to feature any visible controls or optics.

Similar to some of the old guard heavy weapon teams that GW used to sell? (the Mordian lascannon team in particular comes to mind) That would make sense. Also makes them feel a little more futuristic whilst keeping the old-fashioned gun carriage design that fits with the Victorian aesthetic of most of Vic's kits.

[Thumb - Mordian Lascannon Team.jpg]


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 00:13:34


Post by: vic


Thanks for the comments. Jake is currently working of a swag of new weapons including plsma types.
The inspiration for these HW platforms comes partly from my 1999 Pratorian Guard conversions.
We are looking at doing some alternate wheels and track units.





Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 00:33:02


Post by: Eilif


Looks great overall.

However, 4 little flares that run from the behind the muzzle cap into the barrel look a bit out of place to me though. Kind of a raygun-gothic (Flash Gordon'ish) accent on a weapon that otherwise has a bit more of a gritty functional look.

Not a huge deal just a big of feedback.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 06:36:02


Post by: faolan


I am absolutely chuffed to hear that you guys like it and to get to see your feedback.

I have to let Victoria decide when she previews stuff, however, I can assure you there are more weapons for this carriage coming, and plenty of small arms as well.

Yes, as to size, it's similar to the current HW setup - it's placed on a (digital) 60mm base for the shots to give you a good context for sizing.

I just have to say, personally, it's an amazing experience for me to work with Victoria. I shamelessly admit to having had a massive nerd crush on her and her work for ages, so working with her has been a dream come true.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 06:50:34


Post by: Lockark


 faolan wrote:
I am absolutely chuffed to hear that you guys like it and to get to see your feedback.

I have to let Victoria decide when she previews stuff, however, I can assure you there are more weapons for this carriage coming, and plenty of small arms as well.

Yes, as to size, it's similar to the current HW setup - it's placed on a (digital) 60mm base for the shots to give you a good context for sizing.

I just have to say, personally, it's an amazing experience for me to work with Victoria. I shamelessly admit to having had a massive nerd crush on her and her work for ages, so working with her has been a dream come true.


Oh whao! I thought that was a 40mm base! That's going to be huge!


Very cool, but i feel that their is going to be some issues with them being that big. Try to make sure their is enough room so at least a gunner can fit on the same 60mm base with the gun for thows of us looking to use them in modern IG rules. Personally I like the ascetic of two men on a 60mm base so you can have a gunner/loader or a gunner/spotter.

That gun is taking up a whole 60mm base all on it's own, so not sure how I'm going to fit two guys on the base let alone one! You may need to scale it down slightly.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 08:44:30


Post by: Javin


I agree with Lockark. I would scale the heavy weapons down so two minis could fit with the weapon. This would allow us to use the weapons with the current popular 28mm game.

I really like the look of the heavy weapons. The carriages are beautiful. I would be interested in empty gun carriages. Spare gunner arms might sell well to go with the empty carriages.

I look forward to the many new items this year. You may make (even more) money off me.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 09:09:04


Post by: Miguelsan


Color me interested. I have to expand my IG and need HW. Although the HWT kit is one of the best value for money you need carriages to take advantage to the fullest extent.

M.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 10:59:31


Post by: faolan


Have no fear guys! Figures DO indeed fit on here, I keep a couple digital ones around for sizing when in doubt. It's actually even written up on my white board (I keep one around for listing down jobs, etc), and it's double underlined - "Ensure 2 figs can fit without grinding each other".

*Edit*

As a side note, the ones V showed off above from her own collection? They're actually wider than mine!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 13:10:01


Post by: Palindrome


I don't like the solid metal wheels. They should either be smaller and a lot thinner and/or they should have rubber pads like this.



Massive solid metal tyres really look out of place.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 16:38:20


Post by: MrMoustaffa


 vic wrote:
Hi, thanks for the comments.
Yes the male and female 'not cadians' now named 'Arcadians' are well on the way. A very badly timed casting hold up has delayed the release. I am doing all I can to get them out asap.
In the meantime, here is a preview of things to come in 2014. I have been working with the very cool digital artist, Jake Schneider to create a formidable heavy weapons battery. Here's one of the first.
Cheers, V


Can we get a pic of a guardsman or something standing next to one. I have a feeling these things are shorter than most people think they are.

These things fit the look of the more "victorian" regiments perfectly


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/07 22:37:09


Post by: howie


I think they also fit the bill for the Russians/ Valhallans.

When're they going to get there love?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/08 03:21:08


Post by: Skoda


I love it! I am really excited about these. The only criticism I can think of is the muzzle of the gun. Other guns of this sort have a muzzle that can be painted a distinct color from the barrel. I like this and hope that this could be included in any revisions to the model. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/08 03:33:00


Post by: Yonan


Looking good vic, but a far lower priority for me than Arcadians and your other awesome ranges. Acceptable heavy weapons are plentiful, but your human ranges are exquisite.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/08 13:26:58


Post by: stormwell


 Palindrome wrote:
I don't like the solid metal wheels. They should either be smaller and a lot thinner and/or they should have rubber pads like this.



Massive solid metal tyres really look out of place.


Maybe both perhaps?

I really disliked the small wheels the older HWs from GW had, ended up converting them to have larger wheels.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 00:10:20


Post by: Mr. Grey


Would also work well as a stand-in for ork zzap guns I think, with just a tiny bit of modification.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 02:18:59


Post by: skrulnik


I like the heavy weapons. chunky and utlilitarian.

Is there any hope of ten-packs of the beastmen?

I'd really like at least 30 for a Chaos Cultist squad.

The 6-pack just doesn't have the right mix of parts for what is needed.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 03:46:27


Post by: Snrub


 skrulnik wrote:

I'd really like at least 30 for a Chaos Cultist squad.
Hey now there's a thought.

Vic have you given any consideration to doing an "evil" faction?
You know, on top of everything else you have going.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 05:56:14


Post by: Lundsteen91


Lovely gun, really like the wheels and carriage. I find it a shame that it is as big as it is, though,
I don't really see how it will ever fit as a lascannon in a heavy weapons team. It takes up more than 2/3 of the base, How people will be able to fit 2 crew members, and also make room for sandbags, ammo crates, grass and whatnot to give the base character, well, i don't see it.
I think people should just take it for what it is, a large artillery piece, put it on a larger base, and use it as Ork artillery (or hope IG gets artillery pieces in the new IG:codex).
Still, i love the work, it has a nice rugged feel about it, would be cool next to some cultists or dkok.
Kind regards
Lundsteen91


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 05:58:54


Post by: Clang


As it's a 3D design, would it be practical to produce the carriage and wheels in both in the current size and also in a scaled down version?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 23:11:04


Post by: Lockark


I just want to say i got some of vic's soft metal detailing parts and I love them!

Here are the shotgun ammo belt bandoleers on some MKII armour marines.



I also got osme of the Rifle Straps and googles too.

I know you are switch over to resin and well i love the resin figures, i hope this range of detailing bits stick around!

planning on trying out the large googles on some Khromlech Orks in time.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/09 23:37:03


Post by: JoeRugby


 Lockark wrote:
I just want to say i got some of vic's soft metal detailing parts and I love them!


I also got osme of the Rifle Straps and googles too.

I know you are switch over to resin and well i love the resin figures, i hope this range of detailing bits stick around!


+1 too that

A bandolier of shells turns a shotgun vet into a badass shotgun vet, and my smashed fingers rant going to be able to GS those ever.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/10 09:35:36


Post by: Apologist


Another vote for keeping the soft metal detailing parts – things like the goggles and rifle straps just won't work in any other material, and they're so cool!

I finally had a chance to sit down and paint up one of the miniatures I'd bought and built. Here he is:




All Vic's stuff, except for the GW backpack, taken from the Catachan heavy weapon kit.
Resin chem mask head
Resin combat legs
Resin pistol holster
Metal flak armour torso
Metal rolled sleeve arms


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/01/10 19:20:42


Post by: Blacksails


So I have was already having a great day, being Friday and just writing a test that turned out to be infinitely easier than expected, and now I'm going to get drunk, but I was surprised by my Tannenburg Fusiliers showing up at work!

All I can say is that the models are gorgeous and the details even better in person. I can't wait to put them together and paint them!

Oh, and thanks for the great service Vic; I'll be ordering more from you, especially when the heavy weapons are finished.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/07 18:51:12


Post by: mad_eddy_13


Love your work, and hope to get my hands on some of your female troopers when they come out.

Keep up the good work, and I love the feel of your minis


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/07 23:10:08


Post by: vic


Thanks for the pics and awesome feedback.
I've been quiet lately as I am still having trouble with the casting keeping up with demand.
I have a full squad of Arcadian boys assembled on my desk and no means to release them anytime soon (grrrrrrr!)
I will keep the metal parts such as straps and gobbles in metal.
There are a couple more product gone to resin lately:
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/5-dress-uniform-torsos-resin
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/small-ammo-pouches



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/08 00:22:14


Post by: Javin


What about the female arcadians? Any word on those ladies?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/09 06:05:52


Post by: MrMoustaffa


Any chance we could get a few previews of the Arcadians?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 19:57:29


Post by: BrookM


Spotted this beauty on Facebook:



Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in two fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis email list here: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/
Cheers, V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:00:27


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Pah, you beat me too it

neat figure though


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:00:51


Post by: RiTides


Awesome... I will be at AdeptiCon . I don't really have a use for this mini atm, but it looks great.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:02:51


Post by: BrookM


I do wants one! I fear that it may be an event only mini, shame that there are no kick-ass events around here.

Oh well, Arcadians are finally coming, my lads will be getting some reinforcements soon!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:03:49


Post by: RiTides


 faolan wrote:
Have no fear guys! Figures DO indeed fit on here, I keep a couple digital ones around for sizing when in doubt. It's actually even written up on my white board (I keep one around for listing down jobs, etc), and it's double underlined - "Ensure 2 figs can fit without grinding each other".

*Edit*

As a side note, the ones V showed off above from her own collection? They're actually wider than mine!

This comment was great, by the way


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:04:45


Post by: BrookM


Also, fluff for the mini from the Adepticon site:

Colour Sergeant Kassandra Devin ducked her head beneath the lip of the trench a fraction of a second before the shell exploded. The colonial rebels were getting better at siting their heavy artillery. She cursed the bastards and their learning curve; it was really only a matter of minutes before they zeroed in on her position. Devin scanned the defensive works around her, manned by what remained of 2nd Company, 8th Arcadian Rifles. There weren’t many left now. Lieutenant Thais was wounded, evac’d to the rear, and Corporal Xephon was scattered across a dozen meters of no man’s land. She checked her chrono. One minute until all Hades broke loose.

Devin’s helmet comm chimed the signal to advance. Up and down the trench line, the remnants of the Arcadian 1st Brigade were moving forward. Friendly artillery began to lay down a covering barrage, a thunderous hail of metal and fire. If everything went according to plan, the infantry would have time to cross the mile of desolation between their line and the rebel guns. If things didn’t go as planned, well, that wasn’t something Devin had time to consider now. She gripped the Regimental Colours as she launched herself up, out of the trench. She turned to look and the men and women of 2nd Company and gave them a wry smile. “C’mon”, she yelled, “I’ll race ya!”


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:04:54


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


ArCADIANS, I love the name.

Obviously from the Arcadia, a region in Greece.

What else could it mean.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:05:23


Post by: Hulksmash


ooooohhhh, I likey. And I have usey!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:06:10


Post by: spycer


Do want.


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I just hope I can find one somewhere, since I can't be at Adepticon.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:08:31


Post by: Alpharius


I'm going to Adepticon this year!

Will this be 'for sale' there, or Swag Bag only?

I signed up late this year, so I'm not guaranteed a full Swag Bag...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:09:29


Post by: BrookM


The first 1000 will get one.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:09:41


Post by: cincydooley


Anyone willing to post the photo for the work blocked?

Looking forward to seeing your stuff again at Adepticon. Really really fantastic looking.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:24:59


Post by: Alpharius


I'm probably out then!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:43:41


Post by: cincydooley


Well she is just fantastic. In resin for Adepticon too, or metal for the mass producing?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:50:50


Post by: RandyMcStab


That's fantastic, please don't make it exclusive....


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:58:27


Post by: Javin


Hopefully not exclusive. Excited for the new squads.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 20:59:44


Post by: BrookM


I think there will a variant for various cons across the world. This one is sporting the Adepticon logo, so who knows what other con logos she'll sport?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 21:25:24


Post by: endtransmission


Oooooh she's really nice! Really looking forward to seeing the rest of the squads when they appear


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 21:37:19


Post by: Desubot


Man cant go to adepticon so non of that for me... ;(


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 21:59:03


Post by: vic


Ha, just realized you guys beat me to it Thanks for the feedback and comments.

Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, as you see her here is only available at Adepticon, but will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis mailing list here:
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/




Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:10:39


Post by: DarkTraveler777


I don't suppose there is any chance you will be offering the LE Color Sgt for sale on your site during Adepticon?

No doubt there would be some interest, and it is a precedent set by other companies and their LE models (Privateer Press come to mind).



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:36:33


Post by: vic


Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:43:59


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Yeah, let's not do "limited edition" things like that. I mean, that's a great looking standard bearer for my metal Cadians. But I live in Australia. Adepticon is almost literally on the other side of the world.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:46:09


Post by: Smitty


"Limited edition" makes me cry. I'm in college, and can't make it to Adepticon.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:47:08


Post by: MrMoustaffa


11/10 Mini of the year every year.

Seriously, you knocked it out of the park. If this is a sign of what's to come then I can't wait to see the rest. Every little detail is spot on.

Hopefully I can get one. I may be moving soon and be low on cash but one way or another I'll have to figure out a way to get my hands on that mini.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:51:45


Post by: lone dirty dog


DAM YOU ADEPTICON

I am building a to buy list so will add these lovely ladies to it, it is a real shame to miss out on this miniature because of the event but thats life I guess

AWESOME WORK AGAIN VIC


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:53:32


Post by: spycer


If this was on sale during adepticon, I would totally buy it. Limited edition, in Celebration of Adepticon, rather than AT Adepticon.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 22:57:37


Post by: DarkTraveler777


 vic wrote:
Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V


Wonderful! Those of us who can't make it to Adepticon appreciate the effort!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, let's not do "limited edition" things like that. I mean, that's a great looking standard bearer for my metal Cadians. But I live in Australia. Adepticon is almost literally on the other side of the world.


I am torn on Limited Edition figures. As a collector I love them, but I also hate having to track them down as they are almost always sold or given away at events I cannot attend. Vic's LE's are such incredible figures it makes that urge to acquire them even greater than the usual LE fare. This standard bearer and last year's Torgo Beastman are just superb, and, well, missing out on such lovely miniatures is a bit of a kick in the pants.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 23:14:07


Post by: insaniak


 vic wrote:
Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V

Is she actually being sold at Adepticon, or just for the swag bags?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 23:23:48


Post by: BrookM


First 1000 swag bags if I read the Adepticon site correctly.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/20 23:50:35


Post by: DarkTraveler777


Well, regardless, if any Adepticon attendees want to part with their standard bearer PM me.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 00:12:08


Post by: Snrub


Fantastic stuff Vic. Looking forward to seeing the Arcadians in all their glory.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 00:15:58


Post by: sockwithaticket


Outstanding mini. Would love to be able to get one to add to my Inquisitor's retinue.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 00:45:16


Post by: Jehan-reznor


 vic wrote:
Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V


Just change the pole and make some minor changes for the peasant version


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 00:47:41


Post by: DarkTraveler777


 Jehan-reznor wrote:
 vic wrote:
Cheers, I would have to negotiate that with the Adepticon guys. As it stands the deal is Adpeticon only. I'll see what I can do.
I think the Adepticon mini will be metal, but I am not %100 sure about that.
Cheers, V


Just change the pole and make some minor changes for the peasant version


Great idea! Just put a different topper on the pole and call it done.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 00:50:50


Post by: Snrub


Maybe replace her armour with rags so it's actually a peasant version.

Hmm nah maybe not.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 00:59:41


Post by: Yonan


I must have that mini. The nerdrage will be immense if I can't get one ; p Planning on getting a fair few of her Arcadians and that mini will be essential to go with them!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 01:47:39


Post by: insaniak


 BrookM wrote:
First 1000 swag bags if I read the Adepticon site correctly.

It says it comes in the first 1000, yes... The Adepti-construct in2012 said the same thing, but was also sold separately over the weekend, along with all of the past Adepticon exclusives.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 02:47:46


Post by: MrMoustaffa



In that case if anyone is going PM me. I'd be interested in buying one off you if you can pick it up while you're there.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 04:04:38


Post by: Smitty


Hmmmmm...

They never said that you couldn't sell the parts for it after the fact, did they?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 04:07:24


Post by: Snrub


That would be sneaky and deceptive Smitty.












I like it!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 05:12:54


Post by: Brother SRM


If it means there can be another color sergeant in the future who looks equally cool, I think I can manage!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 05:22:10


Post by: Azazelx


 BrookM wrote:
Spotted this beauty on Facebook:



Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in two fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis email list here: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/
Cheers, V


Oh fantastic. Another Adepticon exclusive only available to people on the other side of the planet made and produced by a company one state to the west that will never be available in this country. Not at Cancon, nor Arc 40k nor anywhere local at all. Piss and Vingegar.




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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, let's not do "limited edition" things like that. I mean, that's a great looking standard bearer for my metal Cadians. But I live in Australia. Adepticon is almost literally on the other side of the world.


Yeah. This and the broo quite frankly make me not want to buy any more of Vic's minis. Sure, they're great models, but they're premium priced (and in US dollars!) and there's no shortage of things I want to buy out there, so this kind of thing just drops Vic to the bottom of my pile.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 05:29:13


Post by: Jehan-reznor


 Azazelx wrote:


Oh fantastic. Another Adepticon exclusive only available to people on the other side of the planet made and produced by a company one state to the west that will never be available in this country. Not at Cancon, nor Arc 40k nor anywhere local at all. Piss and Vingegar.


Stop living in the middle of nowhere then!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 05:33:33


Post by: cincydooley


Or just find someone that's attending to purchase and mail you one....


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 05:36:59


Post by: insaniak


 Azazelx wrote:
Oh fantastic. Another Adepticon exclusive only available to people on the other side of the planet ...

Not entirely. If they're going to the first thousand registered, I'll be getting one.



To be honest, I don't understand the vitriol. Yes, you can't get event-exclusive stuff without going to the event. Awesome as it is, it's just a miniature, though... is that really such a big deal?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 06:08:46


Post by: Azazelx


I'm guessing that you'll be getting one by being one of the people on the other side of the planet for that event? In which case, my point stands.

Honestly, it's annoying, and more than a wee bit insulting that these things aren't made available at all locally - even at events like CanCon and Arc40k.

Nope, it's not that big a deal in the scheme of things, but then, neither is something like this acting to make my prioritise buying other figures over more of Vic's minis. I "need" the Arcadian standard bearer as much as I need Arcadians. I "need" the Broo flamer guy as much as I need Broo troopers. Which is to say not at all.

It's not like I need any more figures of any kind, after all. But having the opportunity to get something cool or not begets buying more from the same line. Or not.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 06:09:40


Post by: Padre


 insaniak wrote:
To be honest, I don't understand the vitriol. Yes, you can't get event-exclusive stuff without going to the event. Awesome as it is, it's just a miniature, though... is that really such a big deal?


Exactly - that's what "limited edition" or "event exclusive" means, doesn't it?

Also, @ Vic... brilliant work, keep it up!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 06:12:56


Post by: Schmapdi


Limited editions are a self-inflicted plague on this industry.





Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 06:33:55


Post by: AlexHolker


 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I am torn on Limited Edition figures. As a collector I love them...

Why? Do you derive pleasure from the fact that other people can't have things they want?

 insaniak wrote:
To be honest, I don't understand the vitriol. Yes, you can't get event-exclusive stuff without going to the event. Awesome as it is, it's just a miniature, though... is that really such a big deal?

Some are worse than others, but every time a manufacturer creates a pointless hoop for potential paying customers to jump through, they put themselves one step further away from an enterprise we want to succeed. At one end, if you are working with the sort of resin moulds that degrade so quickly that you can only vouch for the quality of the first 200 casts, that's not unreasonable. But if you're producing a plastic kit for a new race (DFG's Shadokesh) and refuse to sell it to people who back your future all-Shadokesh-all-the-time Kickstarter, that's just being a jerk. An Australian manufacturer refusing to sell their product inside Australia is closer to the latter than the former.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 06:34:18


Post by: insaniak


 Azazelx wrote:
I'm guessing that you'll be getting one by being one of the people on the other side of the planet for that event? In which case, my point stands.

I'll be at the event, yes. That's kind of the point of an event exclusive.


Honestly, it's annoying, and more than a wee bit insulting that these things aren't made available at all locally - even at events like CanCon and Arc40k.

I guess I can understand 'annoying' if it's something that you would like. But 'insulting'...? How?


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 AlexHolker wrote:
An Australian manufacturer refusing to sell their product inside Australia is closer to the latter than the former.

This isn't an Australian manufacturer refusing to sell her products inside Australia, though. It's an Australian manufacturer, with a range of products available to anyone who wants them, who was commissioned to supply an event-exclusive miniature to promote a specific event.

Events in Australia have every opportunity to do the exact same thing.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 06:56:06


Post by: cincydooley


Did it ever occur to you that maybe she was commissioned to create the sculpt FOR adepticon?

And thought ninja'd. Haha.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 07:28:54


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


So, AdeptiCon often pays artists money to alienate large swaths of their fanbase, in essence sabotaging themselves? Whose side are they on?


GWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!1


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 07:46:17


Post by: MrMoustaffa


Hey guys maybe we should take this discussion to a separate thread?

We're kind of dragging this off topic


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 08:02:53


Post by: H.B.M.C.


It's on topic. This is an Australian company making a product that Australians cannot get, yet people half the world away can get.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 08:34:34


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I thought the whole purpose of a swag bag promotional model was to draw people's attention to the company and get them talking. Mission accomplished?

Honestly, if the model didn't look so great I doubt it would be much of an issue.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 09:04:03


Post by: insaniak


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's on topic. This is an Australian company making a product that Australians cannot get, yet people half the world away can get.

It's an Australian company making a product that only those people who attend a specific event can get.

Where that event happens to be located is kind of irrelevant. If it was in Melbourne, it would be equally unobtainable for many Australians.

But that's kind of the point. It's a way of encouraging people to attend that event.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 09:09:54


Post by: BrookM


Not all is lost, the Arcadians will soon be upon us!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 11:27:41


Post by: muwhe


Wow, - Hopefully I won’t speak for Victoria here but:

AdeptiCon produces between 1500-2000 casts of each AdeptiCon model giveaway and we include the figure till we run out of swag bag material. In past years that has been in the area of 1500 bags. We say “1000” as that is the target number for other vendor material. We also set aside a number of them for sale at the show to anyone that wants to pick up extras. In fact, we generally have all previous years models available onsite for sale. As we produce this particular aspect of the swag bag we have more flexibility.

In the case of a company/sculptor who is actually attending AdeptiCon. Doing an AdeptiCon commission offsets the out of pocket costs associated with attending making attendance for smaller companies, especially in the case of an international one, more feasible. It also puts direct product in the hands of a target audience giving people firsthand experience with their work. Many of us know the amazing work that Victoria does but as crazy as it sounds a large number of hobbyists have yet to hear of it and a greater percentage have yet to see it. So putting a Victoria miniature in the hands of the audience of what is arguably the largest miniature war gaming convention in the world not only makes sense but ultimately leads to more sales, which in turn means more fantastic work from Victoria for the rest of us!

There is a whole list of other associated benifits for both a company/sculptor and AdeptiCon. ( teaching classes, networking, spending time with me, etc .. )

But in short, anyone that wants one of these models should in short order be able to make arrangements to get one.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 12:40:49


Post by: Apologist


I agree with the bulk of your post, muwhe, but your conclusion doesn't follow from the rest.

I don't object in principle to limited edition, collectable or otherwise special figures – and anything that benefits Victoria Miniatures and allows Vic more leverage to produce more of her great stuff gets the thumbs up from me.

I'm based in the UK and keen to get this lovely figure, so I've asked some US friends if they can pick one up for me. If I can't get hold of it, it's a shame, but it's not something I'll get my knickers in a twist about.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 13:00:05


Post by: VikingChild


The female Arcadian Col. Sgt model is undoubtedly a gorgeous looking miniature, but as for all of us that won't be going to Adepticon, yeah OK sucks a bit that we won't be able to get her but don't forget all Vic's models are modular, I dare say when the full Arcadian range is released you might be able to recreate, if not in her entirety, but something pretty damn close with a modicum of converting effort, so for me no big deal.

If this is a preview of the standard set by Vic for the new Arcadians, both male and female, I can't wait!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 13:33:58


Post by: sockwithaticket


Yeah, let's steer clear of blaming Vic in any way over this. Access to the one offs would be nice, but there are very specific and good reasons as to why that might not/cannot happen. In the end, she brings us entire miniature ranges and I think this offsets being deprived of one or two minis.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 13:35:51


Post by: lone dirty dog


To be honest I don't have an issue with event only models it is a way of promoting a company and the event, hell it used to encourage me to go to the forge world open day (until they charged for it and the tickets sell out before I get one ).

Annoying yes I understand but big deal no not really, if it was possible maybe a copy of the miniature could be produced with an alternative standard top, this way you would have the same pose but without the Aepticon exclusive mini aspect.

I don't know if that is possible but it would work for me and hopefully most people, although if anyone is attending the event and does not want their miniature or can pick another one up please by all means PM as I would be interested in one


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 13:51:30


Post by: Souleater


PP have recently released a Convention exclusive version of an upcoming model.

(And made it available on their web store)


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 14:25:52


Post by: cert


 VikingChild wrote:
I dare say when the full Arcadian range is released you might be able to recreate, if not in her entirety, but something pretty damn close with a modicum of converting effort, so for me no big deal.



I would assume it will be the same as the Adepticon beastmen leader she did, the legs, body and head will be the same as the ones from the kit while the arms will be unique.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 14:29:02


Post by: cincydooley


If anyone is really itching to get one, I'll add myself to the list of willing Adepticon attendees that can get it to you.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 15:27:27


Post by: Dr Mathias


I know it isn't ideal, but I thought I'd mention that I've never had a problem getting an Adepticon limited figure off of eBay- and I don't think the amount I had to pay to get them was unreasonable (mostly because I can't remember what I had to pay out... if it was bad I'd recall it ).

Female Arcadian looks good, if the squads turn out like that you'll be making quite a few customers happy.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 18:57:19


Post by: JB


It's a beautiful sculpt and I'm looking forward to the rest of them. No worries though. I'm waiting for the new Codex before I make any more purchases, though I'm sorely tempted to buy another squad of Tannenberg soldiers.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 19:18:47


Post by: jacqualine47


The Adepticon mini is great - so good job Vic! It actually got me interested in going to Adepticon (I hadn't ever even looked at their site before - never been to a wargame convention before) when I saw it, so the idea behind the limited ed figs is solid.

In the future though, it would help if they are announced while the con still has event/seminar seats left. I was ready to buy a ticket and look for a hotel, and then I saw that pretty much all the events/seminars are sold out. What's left isn't enough to keep my wife and I from being bored with nothing to do most of the four day weekend. Such is life I suppose.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 21:26:37


Post by: vic


Thanks for the many positive comments.
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
So, AdeptiCon often pays artists money to alienate large swaths of their fanbase, in essence sabotaging themselves? Whose side are they on?

I apologize for any frustration caused. I was commissioned by Adepticon to sculpt this. Doing so, makes if financially possible for me to be there. (otherwise I could not afford to travel from the other side of the world) The exclusive policy is their rules not mine.
This was recently posted on the Adepticon site by the organizer William Edley:
We certainly will work with you and anyone that wants to get a copy of this model. ; )
Wow, - Hopefully I won’t speak for Victoria here but:
AdeptiCon produces between 1500-2000 casts of each AdeptiCon model giveaway and we include the figure till we run out of swag bag material. In past years that has been in the area of 1500 bags. We say “1000” as that is the target number for other vendor material. We also set aside a number of them for sale at the show to anyone that wants to pick up extras. In fact, we generally have all previous years models available onsite for sale. As we produce this particular aspect of the swag bag we have more flexibility.

In the case of a company/sculptor who is actually attending AdeptiCon. Doing an AdeptiCon commission offsets the out of pocket costs associated with attending making attendance for smaller companies, especially in the case of an international one, more feasible. It also puts direct product in the hands of a target audience giving people firsthand experience with their work. Many of us know the amazing work that Victoria does but as crazy as it sounds a large number of hobbyists have yet to hear of it and a greater percentage have yet to see it. So putting a Victoria miniature in the hands of the audience of what is arguably the largest miniature war gaming convention in the world not only makes sense but ultimately leads to more sales, which in turn means more fantastic work from Victoria for the rest of us!

There is a whole list of other associated benifits for both a company/sculptor and AdeptiCon. ( teaching classes, networking, spending time with me, etc .. )

But in short, anyone that wants one of these models should in short order be able to make arrangements to get one.

I also want to add I am not manufacturing this mini, Adepticon is. I am just the commission sculptor.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 21:40:49


Post by: Uriels_Flame


I will buy one, record myself melting it, and make it my new pic.

Troll enough for you?

Minis are awesome, but come on folks. Limited means limited. Done that way for a reason.

I believe Insaniak said it best: Where that event happens to be located is kind of irrelevant. If it was in Melbourne, it would be equally unobtainable for many Australians.

I wanted to go to the Super Bowl - it's in the US but guess what? Couldn't afford to get to New Jersey.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 22:03:37


Post by: warboss


 insaniak wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's on topic. This is an Australian company making a product that Australians cannot get, yet people half the world away can get.

It's an Australian company making a product that only those people who attend a specific event can get.

Where that event happens to be located is kind of irrelevant. If it was in Melbourne, it would be equally unobtainable for many Australians.

But that's kind of the point. It's a way of encouraging people to attend that event.


Agreed. I'm living in America (and a former resident of metro area Adepticon is held) and I have no special way of getting the mini beyond that of any Aussie. It's an event mini and not tied to some other contract or deal like a Kickstarter. If you want it, choose one of the following...

1) Go to the event.

2) Make a deal with someone going to the event via your friend's list or a swap shop thread.

3) Buy it off of the secondary market.

Oh, and since HBMC is quoted, I'll add his trademark:

4) Profit!



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/21 23:49:25


Post by: General Hobbs




Vic is gonna make a mint when she does female guard.....


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/22 02:58:40


Post by: faolan


Guys, believe me, I feel your pain. It's pretty terrible, in some respects, that it's a limited mini - but in others, well, you get exclusive stuff if you go to the P3 con, so it's not really any different.

Now, maybe CanCon should get it's own mini as well, but that's up to CanCon and the people they want to talk to/commission. (Canberra club guys, this is a good idea to do since you're the largest con in the southern hemisphere... even if I can't get up to it from Taswegia!)

On the positive side, you WILL see 'em up on ebay afterwards like with any other limited edition thing, so there's always hope.

Anyway, back to work for me if I'm to have any hope of getting some nifty things finished (at least the models for them) by the time of the new Guard 'dex!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/22 03:37:00


Post by: Splod


I'm in the process of trawling the interwebs for last year's figure, I haven't even considered trying to get this year's one yet.

Maybe if I smile nicely at Vic?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/22 07:48:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I understand exactly why these kinds of promotional figures are made. It still doesn't make it less annoying. I find the mindset behind Limited Editions, both creating and especially collecting, unpleasant. It does make me think less of a company when they release a lot of limited collections and engage in the whole status-symbol market; I haven't bought anything from Wyrd after they essentially turned their kickstarter into a series of velvet rope collectors' clubs with Santana and Miss Terious in the Champagne Room.

Long story short, there are a lot--a lot--of smaller sellers and manufacturers out there who are all great people and who really deserve my money, so it saves me a lot of money whenever one of them gives me even the most minor, selfish reason to associate them with a sense of 'nope'.

If we are just talking about Vic here, rather than the larger topic of 'I only want it because you can't have it' items, then she's pretty safe. Her models are great quality and fulfill an untapped niche, so they should do pretty well. The limited edition thing won't make that big of a difference for me, even if I sympathize with my offended Australian brothers. I was planning to buy a bunch last Christmas, but they didn't come out. Therefore, I will almost certainly buy a bunch next Christmas, when I have more spending money. You know, unless the DFG Black Widows come out and scratch my proverbial professional-women-soldiers itch first...


 Uriels_Flame wrote:
I will buy one, record myself melting it, and make it my new pic.

Troll enough for you?



Only if you use a Nightmare Edition Lord Chompy Bits as her scenic base.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/22 08:42:34


Post by: Grot 6


+1 and some to Bob's post, with 100% agreement.

Though I'm not a fan of that figure, I am honestly stoked at the squads that Vic's going to be producing. Will the figures go along well with the old school metals? I'm so in if they are, and will probibly be stripping the old ones and coming up with a newer scheme for them. Between the Prisoners and that beastman crew, the sample so far really has me interested in scrounging up a couple of APC's, and some tanks for the new army I'm thinking up.


I won't get into the LE issue that Wierd crapped out, except to say that it was done and continues to be done horrible in concept and practice. If anything it ended up turning me off to LE figures entirly.


Kudos to Vic's talent. I want to buy a few more squads from you just to keep you in business.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/23 09:15:21


Post by: Lone Cat


 vic wrote:
Ha, just realized you guys beat me to it Thanks for the feedback and comments.

Hello, I am very excited to be able to show the 2014 LE Exclusive Adepticon miniature. If you are not going to Adepticon this year, fear not. She is the herald of things to come. This brave Color Sgt, as you see her here is only available at Adepticon, but will be joined by her sisters and brothers of the Arcadian rifles, in fully modular squads. A limited pre-sale will soon be announced, with first notification going to the email list subscribers. Watch this space for images and updates, you can join the Vic Minis mailing list here:
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/




side view of this girl please meow


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/23 14:48:25


Post by: RiTides


To those in Australia wanting one- didn't you see insaniak is going to AdeptiCon? Ask him to pick one up for you and arrange to get it from him when he's back in Aus. Easy! They sell extras at the event.

As muwhe said, their commissioning her to sculpt (not cast, as they do that) this mini gives her line exposure, allows her to attend the event- all positives.

Heck, if you want one and will pay to have it shipped to you, I'll pick one up for anyone who wants one (PM me). You'd likely do best having someone in your country do so, of course, but from Aus I know at least insaniak and Waaagh_Gonads are attending.

So, Azazel you can easily get the fig if you'd like it . The commission gives her range exposure, lets her attend the convention to get more exposure, and end result will be more miniatures created by her. It certainly got this thread rocking

Seriously lads, PM me if you want one, or look for a deal on eBay after the fact- that was actually the cheaper route to go for the Brushfire model last year (although that may not be the case with this mini).




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Finally, some of you have points about "LE figures generally", particularly Malifaux's (it actually put me off starting it). But if you want THIS limited edition figure, you can have it! So please no huge soap boxes in here . Just PM me or take one of the other routes posted above to easily get it.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/23 14:56:02


Post by: Grot 6


I'd like to know how to get that crisp of detail into those resin figures? Is it about the master, or sort of resin are you using that fits the bill in the quality of the sculpts?


Thats an excellent looking figure there, and if the squads are that tight, I'd like to go on record and say I'd like a platoon deal, if your going to have one.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/23 15:45:27


Post by: SavageRobby



I've been holding off ordering for awhile, but after this popped to the top of my list repeated times this weekend, I finally failed a Will save.

Penal Guard squad ordered. Really looking forward to seeing them up close and personal.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/24 09:25:43


Post by: faolan


It's about the master, the mould material, and the resin chosen, plus other factors (vacuum, pressure, etc etc).


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/24 20:22:34


Post by: DarkTraveler777


Missed this little gem.

 AlexHolker wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I am torn on Limited Edition figures. As a collector I love them...

Why? Do you derive pleasure from the fact that other people can't have things they want?


To be blunt, as a collector yes, but if you are looking to peg your disappointment with limited edition items on the backs of evil collectors allow me to elaborate.

Personally, as in I am speaking as a regular guy and not a collector of toy soldiers, I don't relish that other people can't have an item because I am a selfish dick that likes to see people sad. Far from it. I'd love for everyone to have everything they ever wanted. That isn't realistic, but it would be nice. However, in regards to luxury items like toys and miniatures I ultimately don't care if you can't have something you want. We aren't talking about necessities like food or water that, when deprived of, cause people to suffer. Again, we are talking about luxury items that are merely for entertainment. You missing out on an item that I was able to get does give me a tickle--as a collector. Because it makes my collection stand out that much more from those who weren't able to add the new hotness to their collection.

Having a collection of anything is ultimately a passion project on the part of the collector. A frivolous passion project that eats up resources. When you, as a collector, meet like-minded people who share your passion for a thing it isn't unnatural to want to distinguish your collection from other such collections of things. LE items do just that. They allow collectors with expendable resources to make their passion projects a little shinier, a little more special.

Now the expenditure of resources can be in the time and money to attend an event, the skill need to win a prize at an event, or it can represent the additional money required to purchase LE items through middlemen. Either way, it allows one person's epeen to swing mightier than others who lack the resources to track down their missing baubles. It isn't personal, baby, it is just business.*




































*And we all know miniatures are serious business.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/24 20:25:48


Post by: alarmingrick


She's a beauty vic!
Can't wait to see what awaits us!

Will there be any " special or assault" weapons coming out?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 06:48:56


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Has there been any update on when the Arcadians will be released?


 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Either way, it allows one person's epeen to swing mightier than others who lack the resources to track down their missing baubles. It isn't personal, baby, it is just business.*




Generally, any products that encourage [e]peen swinging should be boycotted.

And I'm not just saying that because collector-driven marketing decisions are what made toy companies produce fewer Darth Vaders, Battlestar Galacticas, Optimus Primes, or whatever toy people actually would enjoy playing with, just so that collectors could have their mint condition box because they could afford a pallet full of the mooks, jawas, Caprica Ones, and Barricades that contained the one good toy. Well, maybe. Damn I hate collectors and the things toy companies do to fleece them.




*And we all know miniatures are serious business.



Hobbies keep us sane. Until the medication becomes unaffordably expensive.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 07:24:21


Post by: vic


 alarmingrick wrote:
She's a beauty vic!
Can't wait to see what awaits us!

Will there be any " special or assault" weapons coming out?


Thanks, yes, new weapons are currently at the printers.
I am planning to launch a pre-order for the Arcadians (girls and boys). Possibly shipping in May, depending on casting capacity.
Also looking at having a limited number of pre-release squads for sale at Adepticon, TBC.
I would love to have these available to everyone right now, but the reality of getting stuff cast means it will take a bit longer.
Cheers, V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 15:40:16


Post by: warboss


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

And I'm not just saying that because collector-driven marketing decisions are what made toy companies produce fewer Darth Vaders, Battlestar Galacticas, Optimus Primes, or whatever toy people actually would enjoy playing with, just so that collectors could have their mint condition box because they could afford a pallet full of the mooks, jawas, Caprica Ones, and Barricades that contained the one good toy. Well, maybe. Damn I hate collectors and the things toy companies do to fleece them.


You had trouble finding Battlestars? I assume you're talking about the titanium line. Granted they weren't the majority of spots on the pegs but they just sat around unsold in stores locally for me. I didn't buy mine at a discount (they didn't languish that long) but I had no trouble finding multiples.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 15:55:42


Post by: RiTides


Just FYI to anyone interested, I've had 4 people ask me to pick up the LE model for them at AdeptiCon. I'd be willing to do so for a few more people as well (was thinking to cap it at 6, but if more than that really NEED it, then I will oblige ).

Will be sending instructions later this week and would like to do so all in one go, so please message me if you want one.

I'd also just like to reiterate that these are, therefore, available to anyone that wants one, albiet it for a limited time... so, if you want one, please climb down off your "exclusive figures soapbox" and PM me, and you can have it


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 19:12:58


Post by: Splod


Gah, stupid forum.

Let's try that again. I've PM'd you Ri.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 19:26:01


Post by: Alpharius


Yes, yes, I'm sure it is the Forum's fault...

I'll be looking to get one of these, along with a squad or two, when I'm at Adepticon in April!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 20:46:41


Post by: RiTides


Got it, Splod . I've mostly been looking to do this for US folks, since the shipping is much cheaper, but will see if I can get one of the Australians attending to "smuggle" it back for you


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/25 21:36:49


Post by: Splod


 Alpharius wrote:
Yes, yes, I'm sure it is the Forum's fault...

I'll be looking to get one of these, along with a squad or two, when I'm at Adepticon in April!


Look, lets call it 'interface error' and leave it at that?

Ok, or maybe the problem is more between the keyboard and the seat...

*shame*


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/26 02:31:24


Post by: plastictrees


Does anyone have the original Arcadian (male) WIP anywhere? Can't seem to find a pic that isn't tiny.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/26 02:41:40


Post by: griffen127


I'm going and will sell mine. Anyone interested pm me.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/26 05:58:45


Post by: Tironum


Once again, the LE model is fantastic! I wish I could make it this year but family commitments come first.

RiTides, I sent you a PM to see if you can help add to my massive IG army and Vic's minis are a wonderful part of the collection.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/26 20:04:08


Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx


Is going to the con the only way to get one of those? She would go great in my guard army.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/26 20:37:31


Post by: RiTides


See my posts above, WeaponPrime!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 02:47:34


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 RiTides wrote:
Just FYI to anyone interested, I've had 4 people ask me to pick up the LE model for them at AdeptiCon. I'd be willing to do so for a few more people as well (was thinking to cap it at 6, but if more than that really NEED it, then I will oblige ).

Will be sending instructions later this week and would like to do so all in one go, so please message me if you want one.

I'd also just like to reiterate that these are, therefore, available to anyone that wants one, albiet it for a limited time... so, if you want one, please climb down off your "exclusive figures soapbox" and PM me, and you can have it


You are a mentsch. I really appreciate your offer. I can't afford to accept it, but it really gets me here [points to chest cavity].


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 warboss wrote:


You had trouble finding Battlestars? I assume you're talking about the titanium line. Granted they weren't the majority of spots on the pegs but they just sat around unsold in stores locally for me. I didn't buy mine at a discount (they didn't languish that long) but I had no trouble finding multiples.


Yeah. I couldn't find any in the many Targets and Walmarts I searched in SoCal and the bay area. Found some Pegasuses and a ton of Caprica One, though. I admit I stopped looking sometime around the midpoint of season 3...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 20:31:53


Post by: RiTides


I had to google "mentsch"

Well, I've had 10 people contact me about the LE mini, so if 1 or 2 more want in on it I will add them in, but that's going to be about it!

I'm sure some will be on ebay for the first month or two after the convention for anyone who is in Bob's situation. Last year the minis were actually even cheaper that way, you would just be taking a small risk in betting that you could get one via that route.

I've PM'ed everyone who contacted me instructions now, so we should be good to go . I also told muwhe I was planning to do this and he was in favor of the idea, so there should be no issues. My only concern was vaguely remembering a "limit 5" on buying the LE minis; if that were the case I'll just have my roommate at the event buy the other 5


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 21:07:06


Post by: redstripe


 Azazelx wrote:


Yeah. This and the broo quite frankly make me not want to buy any more of Vic's minis. Sure, they're great models, but they're premium priced (and in US dollars!) and there's no shortage of things I want to buy out there, so this kind of thing just drops Vic to the bottom of my pile.


Holy crap, that's awful that Vic would accept a commission from a game convention and get paid to produce a miniature. Saints Preserve Us from such arrogance!

Hey, you know what I bet? If an Australian convention wanted to commission a miniature from one of their local and wildly talented sculptors, I'd bet she'd agree!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 22:20:20


Post by: Splod


Hmm... Might get her started on a CanCon mini then


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 23:00:59


Post by: lone dirty dog


 Splod wrote:
Hmm... Might get her started on a CanCon mini then


Can you pick me one up LOL


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 23:15:52


Post by: Splod


I dunno... It'd be a CanCon exclusive

Of course I would.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 23:16:52


Post by: lone dirty dog


 Splod wrote:
I dunno... It'd be a CanCon exclusive

Of course I would.


I have a sister who lives in Australia would that score any points


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/27 23:29:05


Post by: alarmingrick


 Azazelx wrote:
Yeah. This and the broo quite frankly make me not want to buy any more of Vic's minis. Sure, they're great models, but they're premium priced (and in US dollars!) and there's no shortage of things I want to buy out there, so this kind of thing just drops Vic to the bottom of my pile.


More for the rest of us. I'm surprised by your reaction. I'm proud as hell of her. She's truly one of the few companies out there that listen to us and frankly seem to give a damn.

@Ri
PMed


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 04:31:39


Post by: Javin


Vic has consistently produced a superior product and listens to her customers. She delivers her product quickly and responds to e-mails.

If money is more important than quality, there are many other model makers out there.

I know my hobby is expensive. I prefer to purchase models that fire my imagination and are fun to paint.

Vic has earned my money in the past and I have money sitting around with 'Arcadian' saved all over it .


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 07:31:41


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I don't get why convention minis have to be exclusive to people present at the convention. Couldn't they be part of the free swag bag for attendees but also available for sale through the convention website to generate funds and interest for all involved?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 08:35:35


Post by: insaniak


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I don't get why convention minis have to be exclusive to people present at the convention. Couldn't they be part of the free swag bag for attendees but also available for sale through the convention website to generate funds and interest for all involved?
Some do just that. It would depend on what they intend the miniature to do for them... If they just want a few extra dollars in the till, the certainly website sales are an option. But if the miniature is intended as an incentive to encourage attendance, not so much.


There's also the added hassle of having to pack and ship orders, at a time when they're potentially rather busy organising a convention already...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 10:35:47


Post by: lone dirty dog


I have always found Vics miniatures more than fairly priced especially for the quality, versatility and design she produces, on top of this she has always listened to customer feedback and responded to input.

As one of the major independent miniature produces out their she is at the top of my list, you will always have my commitment to your range and money thanks and well done


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 13:04:25


Post by: Alpharius


 insaniak wrote:
But if the miniature is intended as an incentive to encourage attendance, not so much.


There's also the added hassle of having to pack and ship orders, at a time when they're potentially rather busy organising a convention already...


I think that there is reason 1 and reason 2!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 16:11:13


Post by: Polonius


Also, Victoria isn't producing these, adepticon is. And outcomes few of their models are really limited edition. They are limited inwwhere and wheb you can buy them, but most of them seem available.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 16:43:48


Post by: Desubot


Ether way this is a great sign of things to come.

Cant wait for the rest of the line.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 17:54:39


Post by: muwhe


I don't get why convention minis have to be exclusive to people present at the convention. Couldn't they be part of the free swag bag for attendees but also available for sale through the convention website to generate funds and interest for all involved?

Ok, I’ll try and answer this and a few other questions. Sorry Vic for any further thread derailment.

1. We are extremely flexible in the way we work with sculptors and companies. Our goal is not to provide some ultra rare chase item that only a select few will have an opportunity to get.
2. Additionally, I know it seems intuitive that the reason we do these models would be to drive attendance. I am not sure that was really ever the case, but it certainly is not the case today. The AdeptiCon webcart goes live in November, and sells out of our “main” events in 24-48 hours this sort of giveaway item is never announced until months later as they get finalized. Sometimes they never get announced and just show up in the bag. The goal is really simple to provide something to our attendees, who are already coming, that is cool and awesome! If the model or some other swag bag giveaway has the side effect on motivating someone to come to and experience AdeptiCon great.

We can do the above in a number of ways but generally falls into two camps.

1. A company may provide something existing or design something special to give away at AdeptiCon. . In this case the company provides for the design, creation, production and packaging. The company because obviously they are baring all the costs retains complete ownership of the item. This can get pretty expensive, and can be out of reach for many smaller companies.

2. We can straight out commission a piece from a sculptor or company directly. In this case they get compensated for the design and creation of the product. AdeptiCon then handles the production and packaging. We are generally flexible in the marketing in these cases and work that into the arrangements. But in the end AdeptiCon retains the “rights” to what is produced because we principally shoulder the costs to do it.

Now, as to your question sure we certainly could sell the AdeptiCon models year round. But it creates really two issues.

1. When you sell merchandise year round. It creates more book work, and additional paperwork that we like to avoid. AdeptiCon is already a mind numbing amount of those involved, we all have real jobs, families etc..
2. Additionally when you sell or raffle items on the “internet” outside the context and boundaries of the event location. It can create “responsibilities and problems” that we generally like to avoid. Different locations and sometimes countries have different laws and regulations that we then would have to be on top of and in compliance. If you were going to do enough volume it might be worth it. However, more importantly ..
3. We do not want to be in competition with our sponsors and vendors. As such we limit the sale of these items to the show.


Again, I will state that anyone that really wants one of these should with little effort be able to get one. Victoria, those members of dakkadakka that, are attending and AdeptiCon will no doubt work to make that happen.

Hank Edley
AdeptiCon Director


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/02/28 18:18:31


Post by: Grot 6


Really would like to hear more about a timetable on the squaddies.

Adepticon is what it is. You really don't have to go to get one, just wait a bit and they will more then likly have a few more out there in generals.

Not interested in her, I think she needs more gunsor weapons options, but the style, crispness of the cast, and the lines on that figure really have me stoked for more of her mates.


Probibly going to paint them old school desert, or urban camo. I've got a squad of the old school plastic stormtroopers that would fit in pretty well with them as filler troops.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 11:31:38


Post by: vic


A little preview. Soon to be available for pre-order, the brave boys of the Arcadian Rifles, Vic Minis latest fully modular squad. They will soon be joined by their equally indomitable female comrades. watch this space.
Cheers, V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 12:08:46


Post by: Zwan1One


Wow! These look superb!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 12:11:32


Post by: RiTides


That's an impressive looking squad!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 12:26:27


Post by: EchoJ7


Very nice as always!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 14:26:07


Post by: BrookM


feth feth feth feth feth, this just popped up on Facebook:



Some more wonderful work from the talented Jake Schneider. This bike will be produced as a mount for the Vic Minis rough riders later this year. The finished model will come in four parts and also include stowage options. Model going to print soon, all feedback at this stage, very much appreciated. Cheers, Vic.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 14:40:30


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Vic's just posted this on facebook;

James Wappel getting wonderfully creative with a rough rider + highlander kit combo. can't wait to see these guys at Adepticon



http://wappellious.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/ride-em-doggie.html


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 15:08:33


Post by: Alpharius


Are Rough Riders for certain in the upcoming IG Codex?

I know it is probably too early to tell, or know for sure, but I certainly hope they are.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 15:26:00


Post by: Brother SRM


 Alpharius wrote:
Are Rough Riders for certain in the upcoming IG Codex?

I know it is probably too early to tell, or know for sure, but I certainly hope they are.

I don't think GW would take out that unit. They haven't had a new model since 2nd edition, but GW's been pretty good at keeping old models supported with rules; it's the new units without models that are the ones at risk!

The Arcadians look excellent, and those bikes look like fun mounts for them.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 16:03:57


Post by: HisDivineShadow


 BrookM wrote:
feth feth feth feth feth, this just popped up on Facebook:



Some more wonderful work from the talented Jake Schneider. This bike will be produced as a mount for the Vic Minis rough riders later this year. The finished model will come in four parts and also include stowage options. Model going to print soon, all feedback at this stage, very much appreciated. Cheers, Vic.


These will be my first Vic purchase. Exactly what I've been looking for.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 16:45:32


Post by: bbb


That is a nice looking squad!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 17:31:37


Post by: DarkTraveler777


That squad does look great.

While the bike is neat, I really wish Victoria would sculpt some special weapons arms that could be used for the various regiments in her catalog. Those arms/weapons would be infinitely more useful than bikes, or heavy weapon gun carriages, especially for people making squads with the upcoming 6th edition Guard codex. Every Guard player will need not-meltas, not-plasmas, and not-flamers in their list. Fewer will want heavy weapons and rough riders (unless there are some monumentally better rules for those units in the new codex). It just seems like a missed opportunity for a one stop shopping experience leaving those weapon options off the table.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 17:33:21


Post by: Polonius


 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
That squad does look great.

While the bike is neat, I really wish Victoria would sculpt some special weapons arms that could be used for the various regiments in her catalog. Those arms/weapons would be infinitely more useful than bikes, or heavy weapon gun carriages, especially for people making squads with the upcoming 6th edition Guard codex. Every Guard player will need not-meltas, not-plasmas, and not-flamers in their list. Fewer will want heavy weapons and rough riders (unless there are some monumentally better rules for those units in the new codex). It just seems like a missed opportunity for a one stop shopping experience leaving those weapon options off the table.


Yeah, I agree here. I can see myself buying some of her models, but I'd need meltas, plasma, and flamers to really consider it on anything other than a one off or goof.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 18:19:16


Post by: lone dirty dog


The list grows and grows now those bikes will be bought by the ton load


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 18:51:09


Post by: Grot 6


Thats a pretty good looking squad, I'll take 3 please.

Are there more special weapons options, or shotgun arms?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 18:55:48


Post by: Polonius


 Grot 6 wrote:
shotgun arms?


Those too!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:08:54


Post by: Desubot


Personally would like to see some notbolters and notstormbolters.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:27:02


Post by: warboss


While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:29:20


Post by: Polonius


 warboss wrote:
While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.


this would be a first though, to remove a unit that has had rules and models for decades (since Rogue Trader, even), with no really clear "counts as" possibility.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:31:46


Post by: Clang


Bike is super cool, but needs to come with a variety of legs to fit it, and maybe arms too - both are painfully difficult to convert, as I know from previous personal experience trying to convert an ork biker squad a while back...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:35:23


Post by: warboss


 Polonius wrote:
 warboss wrote:
While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.


this would be a first though, to remove a unit that has had rules and models for decades (since Rogue Trader, even), with no really clear "counts as" possibility.



You mean like they did with the griffon?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:37:37


Post by: Polonius


 warboss wrote:
 Polonius wrote:
 warboss wrote:
While I do like the look of the bike and really wanted to make a squad of them about 5 years ago, I'd be hesitant to do so now. Getting rid of rough riders from the rumored upcoming codex is a realistic probability seeing as how they don't sell Attilans on the GW website anymore. I don't have any "insider knowledge" but rather am making an educated guess based on the removal of units from the Nid codex that didn't have models to sell.


this would be a first though, to remove a unit that has had rules and models for decades (since Rogue Trader, even), with no really clear "counts as" possibility.



You mean like they did with the griffon?


I used mine as a basilisk, which was IMO a pretty clear counts as. They also kept the rules in the IA books.

I see your point, but I struggle to think of any comparable way to get any use out of Rough Rider models.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:40:11


Post by: austinitor


@Polonius: why not use the DKK lists? I have 20 of her not-Mordians cavalry bodies, arms, heads, and lances, and if they get Squatted, that's what I'll do.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:41:09


Post by: HisDivineShadow


Alot of the tank options cut from guard came back with friends to.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:42:38


Post by: Polonius


austinitor wrote:
@Polonius: why not use the DKK lists? I have 20 of her not-Mordians cavalry bodies, arms, heads, and lances, and if they get Squatted, that's what I'll do.


Oh, I"m not worried about it. I haven't used rough riders since 4th edition. No area terrain hurt them hard, and no charging from reserves was the death blow.

I have, literally, 13,000 points of IG. I have plenty to play with regardless of the new codex.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:47:02


Post by: warboss


 Polonius wrote:

I used mine as a basilisk, which was IMO a pretty clear counts as. They also kept the rules in the IA books.

I see your point, but I struggle to think of any comparable way to get any use out of Rough Rider models.


And the removal of them a model that hasn't recieved an update in 20 years and is no longer offered for sale (a much less safe bet than the griffon was since it was as modern as any other IG tank kit and available for sale right before getting erased) doesn't change their presence in the IA books. Again.. this is just my educated guess but if we don't start hearing rumors of a plastic kit for the unit coming very soon after the codex then I'd expect them to be relegated to IA FW ally status. Much like your griffon doubled as a basilisk, your attilans suddenly sprout bionics and double as DKK. Buying bikes as a counts as for a unit that is no longer sold by GW is a risky purchase IMO until they're confirmed in the upcoming codex. YMMV. I'd have killed for a resin kit like this a few years ago and still have dozens of pics from online searches about converting them but I wouldn't do it today until I saw them in the codex.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 19:48:08


Post by: MrMoustaffa


Are these guns still on the way Vic? Those Arcadians are incredible, I just like the look of this style of lasgun for the Arcadians. Either way I'm already setting back money for a few squads. Other than my personal preference for the other kind of rifle, these models are perfect. Some of your best work by far!

The sarge in particular looks great. He really brings to mind some of the character that those old Guard models had. *Also just noticed the second guy from the right has what looks like a pack of cigarettes stuck in the band of his helmet, that's a pretty awesome one too!.

Vic wrote:Hi, thanks for all the feedback on the concept sketch. I have been working with the ever patient Jake Schneider on this new Las Gun. It will have a sight and bayonet option and we are working on a shorter variant with a folded stock. Also, up and coming is an auto gun version and a digital sculpt of the Plasma Gun sketch previewed recently.
Cheers, V





Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/07 20:27:29


Post by: Gallahad


 vic wrote:
A little preview. Soon to be available for pre-order, the brave boys of the Arcadian Rifles, Vic Minis latest fully modular squad. They will soon be joined by their equally indomitable female comrades. watch this space.
Cheers, V


Those look fantastic. Very characterful.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 02:46:28


Post by: General Hobbs




I almost want tos crap and sell my current Guard army.....


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 04:17:15


Post by: vic


Thanks for the comments, big release coming this week.
In the meantime...fresh of the printer.....


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 04:36:02


Post by: MrMoustaffa


 vic wrote:
Thanks for the comments, big release coming this week.
In the meantime...fresh of the printer.....

Awesome! Can't wait to see how they look with some arms attached.

I've gotta say, I like the look of all of them. The plasma pistol looks a little weedy, but then again it's actually able to be held in one hand unlike how most GW plasma pistols are. Some of those things are the size of a toaster oven


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 04:51:03


Post by: Javin


I would like to see a left hand for the option to use your weapons with other arms. I am looking forward to the female arcadian squad. The plasma pistol looks actual size for IG. I really like the look of the knife.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 05:55:39


Post by: Skoda


Amazing work, I am so excited about those weapons, especially that sniper rifle. Wow, it looks amazing. Any chance you'll make pouches for those cool looking magazines it uses?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 06:07:27


Post by: stanman


Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 06:27:12


Post by: alphaecho


 stanman wrote:
Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?


He's had bikes and Heavy Weapons out for some time now (I have them) but more choices are always good. My squad of Curious Constructs bikes uses Vic's resin pith helmet with goggles heads. You cam mix and match to your heart's content.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 08:37:21


Post by: General Hobbs




Vic, here's a request which should be easy for you: Arcadian arms with carbines. I'm a fan of shorter rifles. They would be awesome!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 09:55:46


Post by: faolan


Alright, so there are rumours of them striking the rough riders from the 'dex. There's also rumours about a plastic rough riders kit, so really, your guess is as good as mine.

At the risk of sounding snarky... if by "Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?" you mean "has two wheels", then yes. Then again, that also means a Vespa is the same as a Harley, and a BMW is a Yamaha.

In regards to the left/right question - Victoria and I already have something planned to address this. (And by "Victoria and I", I mean, she told me to deal with it and I am in the process of complying).


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 11:22:49


Post by: Col.Gravis


stanman wrote:Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?


alphaecho wrote:
 stanman wrote:
Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?


He's had bikes and Heavy Weapons out for some time now (I have them) but more choices are always good. My squad of Curious Constructs bikes uses Vic's resin pith helmet with goggles heads. You cam mix and match to your heart's content.


faolan wrote:
At the risk of sounding snarky... if by "Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?" you mean "has two wheels", then yes. Then again, that also means a Vespa is the same as a Harley, and a BMW is a Yamaha.




To add my 2 pence on that particular topic (actually my bikes have been out for about a year now) as with the Heavy Weapons question I completely agree that more choice is only a good thing, both for the individual hobbiest and for 'the industry'. It means more options for us as hobbiests, and continues to drive improvements in whats available - I'll certainly be revisiting my own bikes in the future. In terms of aesthetics, well we're all working from similar themes, similarities are unavoidable (I also know Jake went to some lengths to avoid too many similarities), and finally its always worth noting I was'nt the first to offer Guard appropriate Bikes either, there are at least a couple of other offerings at least out there as well if you look at other similar businesses.

Now I don't know if thats a common view for everyone in the said industry, but it is mine (though I'd not go as far as to put myself in the same league as the likes of Vic), and thats while you'll find from the outset when Vic first dropped her Victorian Roughriders they appeared on my blog popular Praetorian IG blog alongside my own offerings. Certainly I've had plenty of communications with Vic in the past, right down to recommending Jake to her in fact. I've similar links and communications with the likes of Mad Robot, Zinge Industries, Anvil and others. In my mind its how things work.



Anyway, as I've said to Jake before, very nice work, and further more can't wait to see more of Vic's Arcadians!



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 12:23:25


Post by: JoeRugby


 vic wrote:
Thanks for the comments, big release coming this week.
In the meantime...fresh of the printer.....


Oooooooow Shiney

Needless to say I like the look of these.



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 12:27:58


Post by: lone dirty dog


I totally agree with Col Gravis you will always find similarities but there will always be variations as well, I have some of the Col Gravis bikes they are great and I will be getting some more in the future also I will be purchasing some of Vics bikes.

There are several companies with similar lines this cant be helped, but that also gives options which is greatly appreciated and needed.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 12:42:31


Post by: MajorStoffer


Those Arcadians and weapons look pretty swell, though I must admit, I'm likely to hold out for the more "modern" weapons. The more anachronistic lasrifles, while perfect for the other regiments, looks somewhat out of place here.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 17:41:58


Post by: Lone Cat


 vic wrote:
A little preview. Soon to be available for pre-order, the brave boys of the Arcadian Rifles, Vic Minis latest fully modular squad. They will soon be joined by their equally indomitable female comrades. watch this space.
Cheers, V


The return of classic cadian!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 21:02:48


Post by: Blacksails


Love the not-plasma guns!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 21:22:55


Post by: BrookM


All we need now is shotgun arms with rolled up sleeve arms.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/08 23:07:44


Post by: sockwithaticket






I can make these guys now!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 01:45:44


Post by: DarkTraveler777


 vic wrote:
Thanks for the comments, big release coming this week.
In the meantime...fresh of the printer.....



Yes! Thank you for bringing these out. I love the retro feel of that energy gun.









Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 01:58:26


Post by: MrMoustaffa


 faolan wrote:
Alright, so there are rumours of them striking the rough riders from the 'dex. There's also rumours about a plastic rough riders kit, so really, your guess is as good as mine.

At the risk of sounding snarky... if by "Didn't Gravis already offer up nearly identical bikes about 6 months ago?" you mean "has two wheels", then yes. Then again, that also means a Vespa is the same as a Harley, and a BMW is a Yamaha.

In regards to the left/right question - Victoria and I already have something planned to address this. (And by "Victoria and I", I mean, she told me to deal with it and I am in the process of complying).

Can't wait to see how the lefty versions turn out man. The weapons look excellent.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 03:13:06


Post by: Yonan


Orks have some excellent options to use for the shoulders for the old Cadians too by the looks, with some small modifications. Depending on scale, but they should be close enough... the shoulders ont he old Cadians look pretty big, and all seem to be different/improvised.
Spoiler:


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 03:53:35


Post by: Splod


I think you'll find most of the Ork pads to be oversized for the human shoulders. Your best bet would be to get a plasticard tube, cut it in half lengthways and cut to size.

Really excited to see more from you Vic. Would be good to see some more special weapon options, to give people a wider variety of choices for that grim-dark game.

I've been looking for some transports to fit with your Highlanders, and am thinking of butchering some C8 Morris Tractors. Of course, I wouldn't have to if you made some of your own


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 16:14:30


Post by: mad_eddy_13


sockwithaticket wrote:
Spoiler:




I can make these guys now!


My next company commander is going to be patterned after that sarge with the goggles, the taped bolter mags and the crazed battlecry

And yes I will be buying a squad of female Acadians when they come out just to make my army a little less of a sausagefest.... Love your work Vic, keep it up, its fun to see what an artist is working on.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 23:34:57


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


from facebook



"Just added the Van Diemen's World Devil's Sgt. Arms to the store".
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/devils-sgt-arms-with-machete


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/09 23:41:15


Post by: Splod


Ooh, now that's a bit cool.

Especially considering I live in Van Dieman's Land


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 00:13:49


Post by: Yonan


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
from facebook

Spoiler:


"Just added the Van Diemen's World Devil's Sgt. Arms to the store".
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/devils-sgt-arms-with-machete

"Machete" ... now I need to make a new Marbo/Harker/other IG char:


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 04:10:29


Post by: Snrub


The machete arm looks ace as do the weapons pack.


Those Arcadians are spot on. When the female version drops will you be offering up a mixed squad too?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 08:52:05


Post by: vic


Thanks for the comments,
In the meantime, the great Jake Schneider has been busy. Check out this amazing tank he has designed and sculpted. It is roughly the size of a Leman Russ, and has interchangeable tracks. This would be the biggest project Vic Minis has ever produced, Jake and I would love to hear your feedback and can't wait to produce this as a fine resin kit. Comments please
Cheers, V


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 09:06:41


Post by: BrookM


Wow? It's a lovely rendition of the old Queen of the Desert, I will most certainly have to get one of these.

Are the weapon mounts interchangeable though?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 09:08:41


Post by: insaniak


That is a thing of beauty.

Love the coaxial weapon replacing the pintle mount, and the slightly more practical turret to main gun ratio... Although I think the hull gun protrudes too far.

Any plans to fit sponsons on it?

And any idea of a ballpark price?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 09:11:49


Post by: Splod


Corr, that's a bit good.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 09:18:50


Post by: RandyMcStab


Swing!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 09:18:50


Post by: Snrub


Wow. That's an interesting looking tank. I'm not quite sure what about it's design has grabbed my interest so much but there's something going on there. What that something is though, I'm not sure.

Here's a few thoughts.
- Interesting mix of soft and hard angles. The hull has got nice hard angles while the copula and hull front is nice and rounded. This could be the something I mentioned above. Still don't know yet.
- I like that it's got a long almost rectangular Chimera shaped body as opposed to the leany square that the Leman Russ has.
- It's got a nice kind of WW2 aesthetic going for it, yet it still has a sci-fi kind of feel to it. I think it's the space-agey looking gun on the hull and round copula that does it.
- Would this tank kit have a range of weapon options? If so, then what kind of weapons?
- What does "interchangeable tracks" mean? Will there be a range of tracks available at some point or will you be offering wheels as well? I'm not quite sure what interchangeable tracks means. This could just be me being dense though.
- Considering that GW Leman Russes are grossly overpriced at $83AUD what kind of price are we looking at for this tank here? Rough estimate even?


- Lastly, and rather unrelatedly. The trooper used for scale. He is a glimpse at a possible future release?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 09:22:40


Post by: BrookM


Well, it is based on this beaut:



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 10:26:20


Post by: faolan


Yes BrookM, it is exactly.

I've tried my hardest to keep the look, while keeping things in the right shape/sizes to work in place of... other.... things.

There has been a lot of thought put into interchangeability of weapons, and while I'm not in a position to comment (damn that leash!), rest assured that such concerns have been taken into account.

As I can't really go into details (yet!), I'll have to ask you to trust me on this, as I am a modeller myself and I always taken into account what would I want in a kit/figure/gun/bag.

I started 3d modelling and sculpting as a gamer, albeit originally for computer games, and refined it into productionable stuff so that I could have things I would want to play with around.

Victoria and I are very much eye to eye on many things, and most importantly are these two principles: design things you want to play with/paint/have on your shelf, and modularity.

So, knowing what you do about V's figures and options and swapping stuff around, I will let you make your own educated guesses as to what may be in store for this beastie.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 10:37:12


Post by: Vintersorg


Awesome!!

If it is a Leman proxy I'll advise you to make the turret a little bit wider, just to accomodate every crew member comfortably.
And maybe do the track a little bit wider, just to give it a more "aggressive" feeling.

Keep it coming!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 10:42:09


Post by: BrookM


Awesome, thanks for the reply! I've got nothing but good faith in this model now.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 10:45:08


Post by: Ouze


I have some minor critiques but overall I think it looks awesome.

1.) I'd like it if the main gun was perhaps a slightly smaller caliber, and the barrel were perhaps a bit longer. Though, perhaps this is the short barrelled siege gun, and not the main battle cannon.

2.) Not crazy about the hex bolts instead of smaller rivets, but I know sometimes things can look "off" in CAD and look alright on the tabletop.

3.) The twin pintle-mount gun seems a little too long. I think either the forward part of the barrel should extend further into the shroud, or the shroud should extend further into the barrel, but not equidistant as they are now.

The rest of it I really like a lot. The tanks on the rear, the heat vents for the engine, the styling, they're all really nice looking. Interchangeable tracks? Bananas! I can't wait to get one of these.

What are the vent things in the side armor for on the original tank?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 10:54:15


Post by: faolan


 Ouze wrote:

What are the vent things in the side armor for on the original tank?


Don't take me only addressing this particular part as dismissing the rest, but like I said, currently there's only so much I can say!

The "vent things" on the original side armour are sand/soil dumps - a lot of it can get carried up on the return trip, and if the track armour (which is basically what this is, an early side skirt that's in addition to the main armour behind the track) was solid, it would eventually clog up and stop the tracks/tear the hell out of them.

It is, to me, a very distinctive feature of the tank, gives it personality.

Also, coincidentally, it could be a good way to sneak in/on sponson based weapons...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 11:04:18


Post by: Ouze


Thanks for the info, was curious. I understand it's still in development so no answers yet.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 11:14:56


Post by: AlexHolker


I'm not a fan of the tank. It's too much a straight copy of the Matilda and not enough a spiritual successor. The same sort of details applied to a tank with a more modern silhouette would be my first thought.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 11:41:44


Post by: stormwell


 vic wrote:
Thanks for the comments,
In the meantime, the great Jake Schneider has been busy. Check out this amazing tank he has designed and sculpted. It is roughly the size of a Leman Russ, and has interchangeable tracks. This would be the biggest project Vic Minis has ever produced, Jake and I would love to hear your feedback and can't wait to produce this as a fine resin kit. Comments please
Cheers, V


Really liking that tank, kinda hoping the final model isn't too far off from that.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 11:47:13


Post by: General Hobbs




What about the little guy in front of the tank??????


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 11:48:41


Post by: master of ordinance


Ooh, damn you Victoria, my wallet is crippled enough already as it is. I love the look and design of the model.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 14:26:29


Post by: Dr Mathias


Produce it in hard plastic... it's time


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 14:30:39


Post by: Yonan


A vic Arcadian hard plastic kickstarter... a man can dream.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 14:52:57


Post by: prowla


If the guy is 28mm, the tank is way too big. I'm pretty sure it's just a scale error, unless that hull mounted gun is supposed to be a 75mm

The turret cupola looks a bit too tall, and I would probably angle the hull and turret sides a bit more, to give it a look that's somewhere between WW2 and modern. I would also hope for some stowage bins and interchangeable guns.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 16:13:23


Post by: Brother SRM


 prowla wrote:
If the guy is 28mm, the tank is way too big. I'm pretty sure it's just a scale error, unless that hull mounted gun is supposed to be a 75mm

The turret cupola looks a bit too tall, and I would probably angle the hull and turret sides a bit more, to give it a look that's somewhere between WW2 and modern. I would also hope for some stowage bins and interchangeable guns.

Don't forget, it's also heroic scale, so some exaggeration for effect is definitely going on. It's a downright lovely tank though, I really like it.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 16:15:20


Post by: Blacksails


Vic, I can only throw you so much money!

Beautiful tank! I can't wait to get my hands on it.

Still waiting for the female Tannenburg soldiers to round out my infantry, then I'll pick up a dozen of the heavy weapons, and half a dozen Matildas.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 16:15:52


Post by: austinitor


Love it.
Have you and Jake given any thought to doing a not-Centaur?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 16:22:14


Post by: mad_eddy_13


austinitor wrote:
Love it.
Have you and Jake given any thought to doing a not-Centaur?

Like those little tracked jobs in WWII that the brits used? Bren gun carriers - so adorable


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 16:32:34


Post by: MrMoustaffa


Wow that is a big and mean looking tank.

I've never been a huge fan of British tank design, but I could see myself getting one of these.

Also, I'm torn on the main gun. Part of me wants it smaller to make it more reasonable, and part of me loves it.

What really bugs me is that if this was a "real" tank, you would have a hard time fitting a commander, a gunner, and a loader or loading mechanism into that turret with the size of that cannon. But that's because the Matilda its based on had a much smaller gun and you would have more space in the turret.

Honestly its up to you guys. I like the look of the tank, it just bugs me because I read far too much about tank design for it to be healthy. Its already massively improved compared to its main competition, so I could forgive the weird turret, or possibly even pick up another turret type and mount your excellent looking weapons on it.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 17:30:21


Post by: JoeRugby


I love that your going for close to a Matilda in appearance.

As a leman Russ sized tank I don't think I would buy it. If it was more in scale with the actual Matilda (see below) I would find it difficult not to pick one or two up.



I'm also not a fan of the giant bolts n washers on the skirt, but I don't know if it's just the pic making them look massive to me.

I second the idea for a sci fi Bren gun carrier, and hope that you make some Bren gun arms and separate Bren guns soon.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 17:47:38


Post by: Absolutionis


I personally love the tank as well, but the side looks a little bland. It's understandable that you want to follow the source Metilda tank design closely, but from a fantasy model perspective, the giant bolts on an otherwise smooth surface just looks plain.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:14:15


Post by: MrMoustaffa


PREORDERS ARE UP.

LADIES ARE ON PREORDER TOO

http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/




Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:18:47


Post by: Desubot


Oh snap!. though man any way to request 50 50 mix?



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:21:48


Post by: BrookM


And just when I thought I was out...


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:23:10


Post by: Blacksails


1) Buy female squad
2) Buy male squad
3) Mix as required
4) Enjoy 20 of Vic's awesome miniatures!

*Edit* Still waiting for female Tannenburg!

Oh, and those awesome heavy weapon carriages.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:25:54


Post by: DarkTraveler777


Where is the "delicious" gif when you need it?

Also, yay! for the Adepticon standard bearer being released in resin (if only briefly). Thanks for making that happen, Vic!



Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:31:06


Post by: BrookM


 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Where is the "delicious" gif when you need it?

Also, yay! for the Adepticon standard bearer being released in resin (if only briefly). Thanks for making that happen, Vic!

I normally reserve it for the autrocities committed by Raging Heroes, but in this case..





Ordered me a standard bearer, yay!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:35:16


Post by: Desubot


 Blacksails wrote:
1) Buy female squad
2) Buy male squad
3) Mix as required
4) Enjoy 20 of Vic's awesome miniatures!

*Edit* Still waiting for female Tannenburg!

Oh, and those awesome heavy weapon carriages.


Not enough cashola to get 20 :(

guess il be getting them part by part.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:37:01


Post by: vic


Hello, I am so excited to reveal the long awaited, first regiments of the Arcadian Guard. The fully modular 10 Woman and 10 Man Arcadian Rifle squads.
It has been a huge challenge creating modular female troops. I am very happy with the results. The men and women all have the same uniforms and gear. These two squads are designed to mix flawlessly, giving collectors, for the first time, the flexibility to create mixed Guard forces.
These will be shipping in May / June 2014, on a first come first served basis.
Cheers, Vhttp://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/arcadian-guard?pagesize=12




Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:39:50


Post by: ironicsilence


Might be the first female guard models ive seen that I actually like


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:45:53


Post by: MrMoustaffa


I just noticed that the men have a new torso.

if you look at their chest, you can see some added rivets or buttons and the like.

Not sure if the resin ones were always this way but the metal ones I have are definitely different


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 22:56:44


Post by: Haighus


Is it likely that we will see HAZOP gas mask versions of the Arcadians? I would buy classic Cadian styled respirator heads in the dozens

Also, another vote for a tank based on the universal carrier- love that little vehicle!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:01:42


Post by: vic


 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I just noticed that the men have a new torso.

if you look at their chest, you can see some added rivets or buttons and the like.

Not sure if the resin ones were always this way but the metal ones I have are definitely different

Yes thats correct, the resin ones have a little variations.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:02:51


Post by: tiber55


You mean women are supposed to wear full armor that covers everything, what is the world coming to.

Very nice sculpts good luck with the sales.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:04:25


Post by: Armorum Ferrum


Pre ordered my female colour sergeant - Thanks Vic for the opportunity for people that can't attend Adepticon !


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:09:09


Post by: Desubot


 Armorum Ferrum wrote:
Pre ordered my female colour sergeant - Thanks Vic for the opportunity for people that can't attend Adepticon !


Seconded.

got me a 10 man fem squad and the sergeant.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:12:19


Post by: General Hobbs





I also preordered a color sergeant. Vic is AWESOME!

Just finished another 30 Cadians. Gonna ebay them and another 50 or so guardsmen and order these to replace them.

( now watch the new IG codex has all guardsmen in power armor centurion like exo suits!).




Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:35:03


Post by: Brother SRM


These are absolutely lovely, Vic. I hesitate to say they're your best work yet, but what the heck, I think they might be your best work yet!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/10 23:36:31


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


These look great.
If I collected IG, I might pick up a set.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:22:11


Post by: cincydooley


These look absolutely fantastic.

Will you have any for sale at Adepticon?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:24:19


Post by: Haighus


There will be 100 resin ones for sale at Adepticon too according to the email Vic sent out.

My bad, you meant the squads- yeah, the email also said there will be limited numbers of the squads available too.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:25:20


Post by: cincydooley


Haighus wrote:
There will be 100 resin ones for sale at Adepticon according to the email Vic sent out.


100 resin sets, or models?

Split evenly between Male and Female?


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:29:27


Post by: Haighus


Er, 100 of the limited edition model (in resin, I don't know about metal, but I think there will be metal in addition to the resin) as well as a limited number of the squads (unknown quantity).


Automatically Appended Next Post:
They are also gonna be on the Secret Weapon Minis booth apparently.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:31:05


Post by: Commander Cain


Seriously amazing sculpts Vic! By far the best female guard I have ever seen, you have just got every proportion looking perfect and the fact that they blend seamlessly with the blokes is even better. Awesome stuff!


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:52:39


Post by: vic



Thanks for the great feedback.
cincydooley wrote:These look absolutely fantastic.

Will you have any for sale at Adepticon?

At Adepticon there will be
Color Sgt in metal (included in swag and available for sale)
Color Sgt in resin 100 LE only for sale.
100x female squad and 100x male squad available from the Secret Weapon Booth.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 00:56:57


Post by: Bödeln


I really like that the females have real uniforms and are not dressed as strippers.


Victoria Miniatures: Warhorse project-page 172 @ 2014/03/11 01:00:08


Post by: cincydooley


 vic wrote:

Thanks for the great feedback.
cincydooley wrote:These look absolutely fantastic.

Will you have any for sale at Adepticon?

At Adepticon there will be
Color Sgt in metal (included in swag and available for sale)
Color Sgt in resin 100 LE only for sale.
100x female squad and 100x male squad available from the Secret Weapon Booth.


Excellent! Thanks!

Can't wait to pick some up. Your mini was the highlight of the swag bag last year and I expect it will be this year as well!