My tally:

6 15mm crusaders
1 15mm Mortis
7 15mm Beowuld/Grenals
2 15mm Novas
2 HELs
1 Left Hand Mauler Claw
40 Stormtroopers

He has said it is only 70% complete, though, so he'll at least be adding more rivets and the like to the exterior (I believe the interior is finished).

Edit: Ninja'ed! Nice tally, Vit

Its what i need to complete my Knight Maniple...

$300 to go for the $140K target of APCs
Trending toward $152K,
Projecting between $151.5 and $179

so I recon we'll be seeing APCs full of troops and we might just catch the 'still to be revealed' $155K goal yet.

And I already know how I'm going to model one of the APCs, the Shadokesh freebie, and the Crusader into a single diorama.

I am so pumped about these models, the only thing I will need to work on is the exact step-down to get the APC at the right level for the guns and to have a guy doing a Bodie (Or a Bo Duke) across the bonnet (Hood).

 Mad4Minis wrote:
I actually love the APC. Im not a fan of the current trend to pack every square millimeter of a mini/model with "detail", it tends to make them too busy. Also, this is a (light) armor unit, so there will be flat featureless panels. Maybe a couple panel lines to break the bigger areas up a bit and it will be golden.

And it also gives you places for fancy decals or maybe even painted on pin-ups

 d-usa wrote:

 Mad4Minis wrote:
I actually love the APC. Im not a fan of the current trend to pack every square millimeter of a mini/model with "detail", it tends to make them too busy. Also, this is a (light) armor unit, so there will be flat featureless panels. Maybe a couple panel lines to break the bigger areas up a bit and it will be golden.

And it also gives you places for fancy decals or maybe even painted on pin-ups

This, totally considering finding an artist to put a pin up on my Titan, then fluff it out as "the god machine was found with this sacred mural of an angelic being with large... tracts of land and the Legio Titanica has faithfully maintained it on "Bouncing Betty" ever since the engine's rediscovery in early M42."

That is a sweet idea. A mural on a crusader.

So I changed my total quick and dropped my Heavy Assault troopers by 10x

I realized I can only have six troops options and I already have four for my build XD.

140K hit, APC is in! That was fast

For murals on tanks- the user littleboyblues is fantastic at it, although I don't know if he takes commissions.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Mad4Minis wrote:
I actually love the APC. Im not a fan of the current trend to pack every square millimeter of a mini/model with "detail", it tends to make them too busy. Also, this is a (light) armor unit, so there will be flat featureless panels. Maybe a couple panel lines to break the bigger areas up a bit and it will be golden.

And it also gives you places for fancy decals or maybe even painted on pin-ups

This, totally considering finding an artist to put a pin up on my Titan, then fluff it out as "the god machine was found with this sacred mural of an angelic being with large... tracts of land and the Legio Titanica has faithfully maintained it on "Bouncing Betty" ever since the engine's rediscovery in early M42."

Yes, similar to the "nose art" from aircraft.

Heres a link to the Dust game websites decal page, they have some WWII style nose art.

http://www.dustgame.com/products.php?nid=21

Another thing you could do is custom decals.. either photoshop something or find the image you like on the web, print it out on decal paper and then stick it on your model. Will only really work good over a light colored surface though since the decal film will be transparent. They make white film too, but you have to cut it out right up to the edge of the artwork or you'll have a white outline around the image.

No one can answer my original question on page 50?
_______________________________________
I was just looking to ask a question to those of you who have resin kits.

How articulate are the fingers on the Mortis hand/gauntlet? I'd like to model it holding a sword. Would it be possible to make it look good? Or would it end up looking a bit strange at the grip point (like this):

Lurker, you missed the reply

 inqscott wrote:
The fingers have a great deal of personalization to them.

I didn't respond because I thought you meant the full-size 28mm one, and I only have the 15mm resin ones. For those, the fingers are not as posable, but he had to combine a Lot of pieces together to shrink it down in resin.

Whereas, for the plastic ones in this Kickstarter, the 15mm one will be the exact same as it's bigger cousin, just smaller

 inqscott wrote:
The fingers have a great deal of personalization to them.

^ Looks like someone got you sorted.

~Eric

Edit: Beaten to it.

Thanks guys. Skim reading fail!


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If the 15mm ones are as good as the 28mm ones, do you think you could convincingly wrap the fingers around a dread knight's sword handle?

Well, as long as we're posting tallies, here's mine.

Six boxes of stormtroopers
Six boxes of support weapons
Four command squads
Six boxes of heavy weapon troops
Six boxes of assault weapon troops
three boxes of heavy troops
Six APCs
One leviathan crusader
And one nova or hel cannon, haven't decided which yet

Lurker, I think so, but it may look like Sauron's hand- the fingers are really long. Unfortunately, I don't have a full-size resin one to compare to.

Tanner- Sweet list! Want to swap 3 support weapons (Edit: If you didn't see my earlier post, looking to swap my 3 quad guns for anti-tank guns... But it looks like you bought enough of all of 'em so probably don't need to )

I just saw the pics of the APC, that is a dead sexy transport, must have

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Mathieu, you did read that the 28mm arms are "Buy 3, get 1 free" didn't you? That's why I got 4 of them!

I get three, my friend gets one... we're at four. Please, don't misunderestimate me

I was only listing what I was going to get, but the group purchases are much, much more than this.


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In the time it took me to type this response, I got a call from a guy who's been in since day 2.

"It's complicated, but I'm dropping out of the kickstarter. So you can lower the amount by the Leviathan's amount and my extra arm."

2 days from the end! He of course was leaving me with explaining to the rest of the gang that their Leviathans were going to cost more.

I told my girlfriend, who looked at me with a wicked grin. She'll buy it for me, on 2 conditions: she decides the paint scheme, she gets naming rights and must include "Caroline is the best" somewhere on the hull.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Mathieu, you did read that the 28mm arms are "Buy 3, get 1 free" didn't you? That's why I got 4 of them!

I get three, my friend gets one... we're at four. Please, don't misunderestimate me

I was only listing what I was going to get, but the group purchases are much, much more than this.


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In the time it took me to type this response, I got a call from a guy who's been in since day 2.

"It's complicated, but I'm dropping out of the kickstarter. So you can lower the amount by the Leviathan's amount and my extra arm."

2 days from the end! He of course was leaving me with explaining to the rest of the gang that their Leviathans were going to cost more.

I told my girlfriend, who looked at me with a wicked grin. She'll buy it for me, on 2 conditions: she decides the paint scheme, she gets naming rights and must include "Caroline is the best" somewhere on the hull.

A fair trade because clearly she is!

My haul isnt nearly as impressive as others

28mm Leviathan Crusader
28mm Leviathan Mortis
28mm beowulf/grendal
28mm Nova
28mm Ripper Saw
28mm HEL cannon

15mm Leviathan Crusader
15mm Leviathan Mortis
15mm beowulf/grendal
15mm Nova
15mm Ripper Saw
15mm HEL cannon

Using the ship it to me NOW I think my total comes to $363, which is about my limit as i JUST bought a new car...though not sure I'll be able to fight off the urge to get troops

 Alpharius wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Mathieu, you did read that the 28mm arms are "Buy 3, get 1 free" didn't you? That's why I got 4 of them!

I get three, my friend gets one... we're at four. Please, don't misunderestimate me

I was only listing what I was going to get, but the group purchases are much, much more than this.


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In the time it took me to type this response, I got a call from a guy who's been in since day 2.

"It's complicated, but I'm dropping out of the kickstarter. So you can lower the amount by the Leviathan's amount and my extra arm."

2 days from the end! He of course was leaving me with explaining to the rest of the gang that their Leviathans were going to cost more.

I told my girlfriend, who looked at me with a wicked grin. She'll buy it for me, on 2 conditions: she decides the paint scheme, she gets naming rights and must include "Caroline is the best" somewhere on the hull.

A fair trade because clearly she is!

Agreed, best girlfriend ever? I think so.

Since were posting lists...

4 leviathans (2of each)
8 weapon arms (not sure but probably 2 hel, 2 nova, 2 Beowulf/grendel, and mix of left fist or ripper)
All 28mm

Having to skip the infantry this time.
These will join my resin crusader, hopefully the arms work on the resin brother.

Thanks guys, it'll mean a lot to her.

Theophony: I think he said they would need a bit of work, but that they could be made to be compatible.

TOTAL

1 twenty man box of stormtroopers...



Kind of on the fence. I REALLY want more, but there's no real way to afford it. I may be able to swing $40 though. Which would leave me choosing between the valkir (because they look cool) and the apc (again, because it looks cool. May turn it into a battlewagon if the top can pop off).

If you had ~$40 you had left to spend on this, which would you choose?

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Mathieu, you did read that the 28mm arms are "Buy 3, get 1 free" didn't you? That's why I got 4 of them!

I get three, my friend gets one... we're at four. Please, don't misunderestimate me

I was only listing what I was going to get, but the group purchases are much, much more than this.


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In the time it took me to type this response, I got a call from a guy who's been in since day 2.

"It's complicated, but I'm dropping out of the kickstarter. So you can lower the amount by the Leviathan's amount and my extra arm."

2 days from the end! He of course was leaving me with explaining to the rest of the gang that their Leviathans were going to cost more.

I told my girlfriend, who looked at me with a wicked grin. She'll buy it for me, on 2 conditions: she decides the paint scheme, she gets naming rights and must include "Caroline is the best" somewhere on the hull.

I'll paint that on mine if she'll buy me one too

Might have some explaining to do to my wife, but she thinks I'm strange already...

Mathieu- Agreed, she's awesome

Moustaffa- Don't forget that, unless you are willing to wait for the infantry box to ship until later, both of those options would also add $7 in shipping.

So if it were me... I might consider the support weapons box for the stormtroopers, so that you don't have to pay extra shipping (and you'd get it all in November).

At this rate we'll hit $145K tonight, and Mark will need to reveal what the $155K stretch is! My guess is gun additions for the APC (he said he was working on renders of something, and that had been talked about). I don't see him adding anything out of left field or "new", since everything he has added has been discussed a Lot in the Kickstarter comments first. So, that's my guess

Mark just posted this on fb.



Sneak peak at the next stretch goal

WIP: The details of the model still will need to be worked out but this should give you a good idea.

What are those?

Not sure if I'd buy them separately, but hopefully they're free . Not a big deal if not, though- the kit is going to be an amazing deal with the 10 seated troopers as-is.

Looks like that puppy is mounting it's own one shot mortars or something.

Hi guys, just wanted to drop in and say hello! WOW this thread is getting big!

I know there are likely questions I have missed so if anyone need an answer to anything just post a reply to this and I will get back to you. Off to a meeting....

FYI Stuka ZU Fuss http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wurfrahmen_40

All the best!
Mark

Think of it like a manticore, except a million times more badass.

That's what the next stretch goal is.

Looks great! Hope it just comes as an extra with the APC, if it was to be a whole separate kit I would want it to look a bit more different than it does already. Really cool idea though, must resist getting more stuff though. I am already at a nice round $500!


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Wait, I calculated wrong, "only" $428! Think of all the goodies I can get now...

Edit: Whoops, so, SO ninja'ed . Didn't realize we'd rolled over onto a new page...

In the Kickstarter comments someone posted this link to what inspires it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wurfrahmen_40



I'm not sure what I think, but if they are free or cheap, then

Also I think Mark just sketched them out and they would have more detail once made. So yeah, very interesting!

People who want to swap a different gun out for the quad gun could probably use the bits from the stormtrooper support weapons (i.e. the anti-tank gun), if they're getting those as well. But it probably looks best with the quad gun anyway, as to make this a true "tank" rather than an "APC" would require a pretty hefty overhaul of the model.

@mathieu- thanks for the clarification.

I am sorely tempted to change to all infantry and apcs.
I already have a crusader and would like a mortis, but these are all looking too good.

Mark, I know you have plenty of great ideas, but save my bank account and hold hem for the next ks.

Hiding now from the people who will be upset by previous comment. Fire away...I fire back

I'm in! WOOT!

One big crusader+extra arm.

Seriously, I wish this hadn't started until tax return time LOL! I want nearly all of it.

sigh... so rough news for me is that I had some unexpected costs come up... and I'm not getting last months income... or this month's so far thanks to a paperwork feth up.

So sadly I had to drop down to two arms and a single crusader.

I also slimmed down my pledge a little although I still have some troopers, support, command, all the heavies and an APC!

Mantic's kickstarter drew me in after long last so I figured I would split my pledges. After all, I can buy Dreamforge stuff whenever it is released but Mantic IS offering some good deals.

Not to say I am ditching Mark, he is still getting $260 off me which is more than reasonable I would say, more than I usually pledge for a KS!

Guys, don't feel bad about lowering the pledges slightly, or not being able to afford more. Life is such, and no one in their right mind would flame you for that. As you all pointed out, this should be available for retail at a later point.

If not, Mark played the excellent hand he was dealt extremely bad.

Now, I'll take orders for skin scrapings off my girlfriend. A mere 18 years ought to produce a viable clone that you can legally marry. And I won't charge as much as a Leviathan...

This is the most amazing project ever, so glad I backed it. LEVIATHANS!!!

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Guys, don't feel bad about lowering the pledges slightly, or not being able to afford more. Life is such, and no one in their right mind would flame you for that. As you all pointed out, this should be available for retail at a later point.

If not, Mark played the excellent hand he was dealt extremely bad.

Now, I'll take orders for skin scrapings off my girlfriend. A mere 18 years ought to produce a viable clone that you can legally marry. And I won't charge as much as a Leviathan...

Is she aware you're selling her genetic materials for cloning? XD

The APC broke my resistance, its everything I wanted in a 40k truck or armed limo.

So its a leviathan and 3 APCs for me.

And $145k reached

Welcome, KK . You have good tastes! I was thinking of you with the APCs, too, since I've seen you post about alternate 40k vehicles before. Now if only Mark had a flying something or other

I'd vote for a preditor drone if Mark is taking votes.

That or some kind of giant robot wearing a castle as a hat

Lol . Yes, a drone would indeed be cool! But I think we're wrung every sculpt he had out of him in this Kickstarter. We should hit the $155K stretch tomorrow, so I'm not sure what (if anything) he'd have for the final day.

I suggested making the PDF rules (when they're finished) free for anyone pledging over $20, since that would be an easy thing for him to do and might tempt in some more folks (It's already free to anyone pledging over $200)

Finally upped my pledge with all the goodies I wanted. My wallet would probably be trying to get someone to hurt Mark if it wasn't so empty now...

Not posting a list because I refuse to confront my plastic addiction...

One thing I'm curious about, does kickstarter add sales tax to pledges, or since it's a "donation", is it tax free?

I pretty much knew the rockets were coming, but it helps solidify my decision to wait for some other faction. It just borrows too much from an iconic vehicle of World War 2 to look right anywhere outside of the Eisenkern/Space Wehrmacht.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
One thing I'm curious about, does kickstarter add sales tax to pledges, or since it's a "donation", is it tax free?

If your state charges sales taxes on online shopping, you will have to pay the sales tax on your end - that's why Europeans are always getting hit with their VAT on Kickstarter projects. And it's not a donation - trying to tell the tax department you are "donating" money and just coincidentally receiving a "gift" in return isn't going to convince anyone.

I know I did not need to post this here, but I was making my rounds and it would have felt wrong to skip Dakka



DreamForge Kickstart is coming to a close

We have introduced over 30 individual plastic model kits! And we are not done yet!
The current product line consist of a fully outfitted Stormtrooper infantry section, a range of power armored troops ,
two Leviathan variants in 15mm and 28mm scale with a host of optional weapons, and a APC to get your troops to the front in safety and style.





If you wanted to back one of our amazing plastic models or miniatures, NOW is the time!

My tax didn't come in. There is no god.

@ Motyak- there is a god....he just wants you to play shadokesh.

Over $150 k with $2500 already today (3am central time zone). Ks projecting high of $180k...I don't think KS knows how gamers operate. I think well hit $200k

Short question: Are the extra arms for both sides (except the two where you have to specify the side)?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Short question: Are the extra arms for both sides (except the two where you have to specify the side)?

That's been my understanding. Skimming through Mark's comments on the KS page there's one that mentions the ripper saw going on either arm, so one would infer from that that the ones that don't have a side can go on either.

Yes, all go on both sides except the Vulcan cannon (due to the external ammo feed belt not being a reversible bit) and the Mauler Claw (due to the palm not being a reversible bit). I have both of these in resin and it's pretty clear why they're not reversible. I think he learned from the Vulcan cannon, though, and made all the other guns mountable on either side

Over 600 backers now, and about to cross $152K!

@Alex- Since those missile pods are Very WIP, I'm hoping they'll be a bit more sci-fi / modern in the final version. I'm very happy with the balance of retro and sci-fi in the actual APC itself, though.

Tally.
One Mort, with the freebies...
Summer is a crappy time for money :(

Gitkikka- Looks just fine to me

Yesterday was by far the highest total pledge day ($13.5K) and pretty much tied with several other days for most backers other than the first (and those other days were times when Mark introduced new elements like the weapon arms or the like).

Today is already at about $5K so looks to outdo it by quite a bit!

I was expecting that the end total would be about $175K... but now I'm starting to wonder if that's a little low.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
TOTAL

1 twenty man box of stormtroopers...

Dont feel bad, my contribution is pretty small too. This is a bad time for me financially, will be until spring. Guess that means Ill be waiting cash in hand when a lot of this stuff hits regular retail next year.


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 Gitkikka wrote:
Tally.
One Mort, with the freebies...
Summer is a crappy time for money :(

Im at 1 Crusader with the freebies...if the check Im waiting on gets here before saturday Ill add an APC to it.


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Theophony wrote:
@ Motyak- there is a god....he just wants you to play shadokesh.

QFT. Im predicting some epic awesomeness for the Shadokesh.

 RiTides wrote:
I think we're wrung every sculpt he had out of him in this Kickstarter.

Oh I can think of two...

Next kickstarter?

That is one heck of a small connection at the waist to bear all of that weight. I thought my warhound was ridiculous, but this is OTT.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
That is one heck of a small connection at the waist to bear all of that weight. I thought my warhound was ridiculous, but this is OTT.

meh. If you're crazy enough to buy a model at that scale you can be expected to have the experience and skill to drill out some holes for a brass rod, yes?

I think he meant to realistically hold the city on it's back . Yeah, it's a bit OT but just a cad model for funsies.

Only 1K to go till rocket stretch, and he just commented he can add covers for people who want the rockets enclosed (to be left off if you want them exposed).

 RiTides wrote:
I think he meant to realistically hold the city on it's back . Yeah, it's a bit OT but just a cad model for funsies.

Im pretty sure he made & sold at least one of those designs, before the Emperor issued a C&D order...

Put my pledge in, $450 worth of infantry and APCs. Very sexy stuff

Also hit 155K so should get some nice additions to the APCs.

 RiTides wrote:
I think he meant to realistically hold the city on it's back . Yeah, it's a bit OT but just a cad model for funsies.

IIRC he initially had a green light from GW and did make molds and physical models.

Then GW hit him with a cease and desist order!

I don't know if any models survived or were shipped but that's my memory from around 2004, 2005.

PS, Mike, I'd buy one in a heart beat!

Well, that's it then, we have hit every stretch goal. Congrats to Mark.

Congrats again I guess I should starting painting now to clear current painting backlog. I still haven't painted the resin crusader I bought from you lol. I guess my painting will be back logged for 3 more years.

I've effectively cleared my backlog during this kickstarter. I only have 10 or so left (Shock troops, so not looking forward to it)

I think I'll actually have to borrow minis from a friend to paint in the meantime.

Yes, I was referring to a real version of the titan, I do know how brass rods work, that is how mine keeps from toppling too.

Added my pledge back in.

Boots on the ground and an APC. Wish I could throw down more, but that just isn't possible right now.

edit: I might throw down 10 more bucks to get the rockets with the apc...

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I don't know if any models survived or were shipped but that's my memory from around 2004, 2005.

PS, Mike, I'd buy one in a heart beat!

Yea, I've seen one at the old store I used to go to in Cleveland. One of the old Blockhead Leviathans.

And yes, I would buy something that size in a moment.

I can only afford my 20 guys right now .. wish I could do more .. but my backlog is pretty bad :( I have a whole dust tactics revised set to paint + axis and allies heavy walkers. Any my night goblin smurfs of chaos are just primed white and actually have a cobweb or 2 sitting in the closet :(

So in a couple of months I can make it all worse with 100 or so Sedition Wars minis to add to the pile.

Wish I could teach my dog to paint. She's home all day, doing nothing.

Free KS exclusive model is the 165K stretch

"Ada, a little lady with a bug gun"

Art isn't up yet, hopefully will be in a few hours (he is working on it).

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The APC broke my resistance, its everything I wanted in a 40k truck or armed limo.

Because why does a Patriarch, I'm sorry, Broodlord, have to run everywhere?

This question may have been answered, but I don't feel like hunting through 50 pages:

How do I put money down for items that are not the original options? I wans to buy the Eisenkern heavy infantry, but I don't see a payment option to put money on those, so How do I pay for those?

 poda_t wrote:
This question may have been answered, but I don't feel like hunting through 50 pages:

How do I put money down for items that are not the original options? I wans to buy the Eisenkern heavy infantry, but I don't see a payment option to put money on those, so How do I pay for those?

It's a bit counter intuitive. Use the calculator on the bottom to figure out what you want, then pledge that amount.

When you pledge you get a screen to pick your reward, one option is a catch all category where they'll ask you later exactly what you want.

In reality I think everyone is getting that survey it's just rather than explain that to every potential backer it was easier to put up the catch-all option.

Also can't hurt to link the calculator here I suppose: http://www.dreamforge-games.com/kickstartshipping/DFCalc.htm

EDIT: The newly-unlocked Stuka rockets for the APCs are an extra $10, so make sure to add that in if you're interested in them. At least adding 10 is fairly simple finger-math...

Tell that to an amputee!

Can't wait to being playtesting. Those formation rules seem... unwieldy, if highly realistic, so I am very curious.

Rocket things are nice, just not $12 worth of nice so I will give them a miss I think!

Sounds like a fun stretch next though, were we not just talking about special characters?!

robertsjf wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The APC broke my resistance, its everything I wanted in a 40k truck or armed limo.

Because why does a Patriarch, I'm sorry, Broodlord, have to run everywhere?

And why does God need a space ship anyhow?

I just wanted to add something unplanned as way to say thank you to all the backers for their support, it is very much appreciated!


THANK YOU!

My, my...

You must have been reading my mind. She looks awesome. Resin, I assume?

Free or extra?

I'm dumb. It says free right there!

One per pledge FREE

(Marks looking into the cost so you can buy more)


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don't know the material

Cool, Dave Taylor just blogged this kickstarter!

Free is great . Will look awesome alongside my stormtroopers. Does she ship with Stage 1 like the free Shadokesh figure?

Thanks Mark!

Mark... You don't have to overcompensate.

Theophony wrote:
Mark... You don't have to overcompensate.

Lol.. Yep BIG gun She is a tank hunter. She uses a MLA rifle to take down the heavy targets. Considering this rifle is primarily used by power armored troopers, it’s quite a feat. I can imagine how much she would need to lean into the recoil of that beast just to stay standing

hellllooooooooooooooooooooo madam sniper!

Well, that finally tipped me over the $1000 point. Had to pledge for three more APCs and the rocket launchers so I can have three Not-Manticores (or Not-Basilisks, until Mark makes an artillery model).

She might become the new vindicare assassin in my custodes army

Will be interested to find out what she'll cost to add more of (probably limit 5 total like the Shadokesh model?). Also, it sounds like both of those are going to be plastic, just like the other parts? Seems impractical, but they're being produced by WGF so I don't think there's another option.

Also, already over $160K . Would be crazy if we already hit the stretch for Ada before tomorrow really started. I think Mark is out of stretch goals but I can see this clearing $180K. It made over $13K yesterday and again today, with time still to go today... so $20K tomorrow is actually pretty likely, I think.

Really psyched for the November releases, that's not far away

Blah...it's a good thing I'll be out of town tomorrow and unable to constantly tweak my pledge upward as I've already done again...

And yay! Someone else as "gung-ho" as me for this! Or crazy...also probably a good word.

Need to know the price for additional ada's, not sure what to use her for, but will max that out like the shadokesh.

It's a struggle for me right now not to jump in on 4 boxes of infantry for a Sisters counts-as force....Swap the heads out with the arbite heads by Maxmini that just came out and boom.....Adeptus Arbite force. So tempting.....it's only a hundred more bucks.....

 Hulksmash wrote:
It's a struggle for me right now not to jump in on 4 boxes of infantry for a Sisters counts-as force....Swap the heads out with the arbite heads by Maxmini that just came out and boom.....Adeptus Arbite force. So tempting.....it's only a hundred more bucks.....

Do it....do it....do it....

Then you could rig up heavy weapons on the dozen MULES you'd get for a retributor squad or something along those lines. Heck, the APC with rockets would be an excellent stand-in for an Exorcist...

You know, just sayin'....

DOOO EET!

Yeah, sounds hard to resist Hulk . I think those troopers are going to look fantastic with head swaps. For now, I'm just planning to use the unhelmeted heads on the sprue, but I'm very interested to see what they look like with others. I think they're a bit of a blank canvas that head swaps and painting can take in a lot of different directions

Im so using the Cyber heads puppets war previewed a while back.

@Vitruvian

Those are great for an admech force. Very, very pretty.

Damn straight, thats exactly what im using this kickstarter for

If I can find some decent female heads, I'll be starting a sisters of battle army that doesn't cost $500

Hm, here's a question.

The "Twin Vulkans" is listed as Stage 1 shipping, but the "Left Hand Vulkan" is listed as Stage 2.

Does this mean if you go for a Crusader you'll get your stuff in November including the left Hand Vulkan? Or your November order will ship in March unless you pay extra for shipping.

Or is that only if you get extra left arm Vulkans?

I believe the freebie left Vulkan will ship with the November dispatch, after all, there is no extra shipping charge with it, and if that would otherwise be the only thing from stage 2 then Mark will be out of a lot of money on the freebie Vulkans. So yes, Crusaders, cooler capacitors, Excalibur, and freebie Left Vulkan will be November dispatches (Estimated).

As it is, with the addition of the APCs and extras for them, I have now gone in for some items from each stage, so when the freebie Vulkan arrives doesn't really bother me - I'll have enough painty goodness to be getting on with no matter what.

$165k reached! Probably can make one more stretch goal before it's all over.

Funny how the money is pouring in faster NOW then when we had goals to meet.

Gah!

My wallet is squeeling like a pig on a honeymoon!

Went to add in the 2 Stuka Zu Fuss for my 2 APCs, then realised that's within $15 of an extra APC, so removed them again and went for the triple. That at least gives me the 2 I needed for the troops I want, and the one for the Diorama model I'm planning.

But still, my pledge has gone from around $250 to $400.

>.< my pledge is. Still sitting at a big fat whopping total of absolutely $0.00 yup! $0.00! I want to buy something, but I,ve got soooooo much crap on the go already, and the reaper minies on the way at some point too, I am doing a lot of nail biting because I know I will regret not spending, and I will regret spending too .... GAH!!!!!!

Edited to correct this piece of worthless gak autocorrect on my worthless ipad. With a small p!

 RiTides wrote:
Will be interested to find out what she'll cost to add more of (probably limit 5 total like the Shadokesh model?). Also, it sounds like both of those are going to be plastic, just like the other parts? Seems impractical, but they're being produced by WGF so I don't think there's another option.

$2 per extra, max of 5 including the freebie.

Must admit, I don't see the likelyhood of her being plastic, moulds would be too expensive for the limited run. Currently around 640 backers and even if everyone went for a full 5, I'm not, that would only mean 3,200 made. Nowhere near enough to justify plastic (IMO).

Mark added Zeus at $185k. It's the apc with a big cannon on top. We just need $18k as of right now to unlock.

Where are all the Orc players needing big trucks

Pic of the APC Conversion kit:



Man... that is tempting. Will depend on how much it costs to add but it is sweet!

 Conrad Turner wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Will be interested to find out what she'll cost to add more of (probably limit 5 total like the Shadokesh model?). Also, it sounds like both of those are going to be plastic, just like the other parts? Seems impractical, but they're being produced by WGF so I don't think there's another option.

$2 per extra, max of 5 including the freebie.

Must admit, I don't see the likelyhood of her being plastic, moulds would be too expensive for the limited run. Currently around 640 backers and even if everyone went for a full 5, I'm not, that would only mean 3,200 made. Nowhere near enough to justify plastic (IMO).

Agreed! Where did you see the price listed? I will probably add 4 more to have the full 5, but want to make sure I'm adding the right amount.

Darn it! I want that new vehicle so much! There is me thinking my pledge is a done deal...

The price is listed in the pledge manager. I haven't seen it anywhere else.


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I'm back in for $700. I'll need some new bathwater, apparently. The price of the heavy infantry support and assault got me mulling it over again, and the leviathans are still very nice.

I love the look of those APCs, but they're just too expensive, (2 APCs vs a Leviathan) and I'm already tapped out. I'll look at getting those, regular infantry, regular heavy infantry, more weapons etc down the line at discount retail.

She is listed as a stage 1 delivery too.

Might actually pick up a couple of them...not sure she'd work as a Vindicare but I'm sure I can think of something.

I really want to know how Mark knows what to put on things to make me say "DO WANT!! WANT WANT WANT!"; it's becoming quite troublesome as I'm already quite close to spending my budget for models for the entire estimated delivery window...

Well, if she is to be cast in metal, it should be a little easier for Mark to organise.

Yeah, I don't see them doing her in plastic just because of the costs involved and that she's a one-off, as others have said.

It'll be interesting to see if we make it to the final stretch goal; I'd throw in the cost of it now but I suppose I'll just have to get my phone set up to be able to up my pledge in case we get in shouting distance.

And the more I look at that Stuka Zu Fuss, the less I am worried that I turned a couple into another APC.

In fact, I'd like to see a variant on that which could be used as a re-arming vehicle for the Crusader. Instead of the tripple rockets along the sides, maybe a couple of magazines for the Grendel, Beowolf, or Vulkan along each side.

Don't know if it would mean anything in the game rules, but would give a diorama a little something extra.

And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being

A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.

B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.

It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.

*sigh*
That $185K goal...is what I was most hoping for. But, do I keep my three Not-Manticores and add three Not-Basilisks, or switch them?
Decisions, decisions...

I say get one with missiles and two with rockets!

I just added the 4 extra Adas, in case I want to add snipers to my infantry platoon (as the command squad snipers don't ship until Stage 3).

We're clear of $170K, with 17 hours to go! $185K is looking good

If the Zeus conversion becomes a regular retail item Ill be all over it. So as soon as they hit market thats 1 APC and 1 Zeus. Probably a couple 15mm Leviathans too.

It is just a shame the KS finishes at 3am where I live, I will probably be sleeping when we reach the end so hopefully we reach the last stretch so I can pledge for it!

 Conrad Turner wrote:


And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being

A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.

B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.

It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.

The Zeus is based off a real WWII German variant of the vehicle the APC is based off of. The gun is a short range howitzer for infantry support, firing high explosive shells at infantry, not other vehicles.

I was actually about to comment on how much I liked the gun section, Mark has done a great job of adding some realism to the vehicles and infantry alike, no giant oversized guns, vehicles which can actually fit troops in and no giant shoulder pads!

I would like to see some larger mounted weapons in the future however. These would probably be on a new chassis though as it would not really suit a pair of flak cannons sitting on the top imo.

 Mad4Minis wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:


And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being

A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.

B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.

It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.

The Zeus is based off a real WWII German variant of the vehicle the APC is based off of. The gun is a short range howitzer for infantry support, firing high explosive shells at infantry, not other vehicles.

Most likely the 7.5cm one right?

 kenshin620 wrote:

 Mad4Minis wrote:

 Conrad Turner wrote:


And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being

A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.

B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.

It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.

The Zeus is based off a real WWII German variant of the vehicle the APC is based off of. The gun is a short range howitzer for infantry support, firing high explosive shells at infantry, not other vehicles.

Most likely the 7.5cm one right?

Id say thats the one. A couple of those mixed in with the troop carriers to soften up the enemy before you deploy infantry.


Also of note...the "6 Rad" wheeled APC from WWII is seems to be as much inspiration (if not more) for the Eisenkern APC than that half-track.

Yup, the Zeus is the equivalent to the real life Sdkfz 250/8 Neu 'Stummel' Halftrack or Sdkfz 251/9 Stummel Halftrack. Equipped with a 7.5 cm L/24 low velocity Gun, both halftracks were nicknamed the Stummel (Stump).

By sheer coincidence I just converted a 1/100 Kätzchen model into a fictional SdKfz 255/8 Stummel Kätzchen ...

http://www.adpublishing.de/html/15mm_german.html

While the big gun is nice in the picture, I'm overwhelmed by the size of the rifle just over it. That must have been a hell of a weapon, mano-a-mano.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
While the big gun is nice in the picture, I'm overwhelmed by the sixe of the rifle just over it. That must have been a hell of a weapon, mano-a-mano.

?? Sorry don't get it.
Are talking about the E-50 tank?

No, the one posted originally by Kenshin620. And I fixed my sixe to size.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
No, the one posted originally by Kenshin620. And I fixed my sixe to size.

Of that is just a MG-42, it might look that big because of the small size of the halftrack!



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BTW - just finshed the female Kriegsmarine Trooper conversion:


Still works for me!

She is a thing of beauty. I am definitely getting female head sprues to make 'em ladies.


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Where is that head from, again?

She is fronm Statuesque Minis Female Resistance Fighter!

I am planning to use the female Kriegsmarine as new DAK troopers together with Tina from DUST:

Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though

Just noticed that Ada was unlocked - very nice. KS is at $173K now.

 Necros wrote:
Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though

Me too. Oh well, Ill be awaiting its regular release. They can count me as a guaranteed sale, just not able to sign up for it right now.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:


She is a thing of beauty. I am definitely getting female head sprues to make 'em ladies.


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Where is that head from, again?

I agree, that is a very well done model. Unfortunately, I just checked the Statuesque Minis site and it looks like you can only get the helmeted heads separately. The bare heads come with the resistance fighter models.
But I wonder if these heads will work?
http://www.meowmeowminis.com/Galactic_Chevaliers_Bare_Heads_5/p1646481_7725411.aspx

 Mad4Minis wrote:

 Necros wrote:
Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though

Me too. Oh well, Ill be awaiting its regular release. They can count me as a guaranteed sale, just not able to sign up for it right now.

Same here, unfortunately.

Real Life expenses + other recently ended Kickstarters have drained my hobby funds.

I'll be there for the retail release of the Iron Core line though!

the meow meow minis look promising, but I'd like to see a bit more variety.

Ideally, I'd like to see Defiance sell their head sprues separate, though.

Over 177K now, getting close to it 11 hours to go.

Just posted asking Mark when he'll put up the price of that conversion kit, it must be coming very shortly!

The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).

After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?

How much are extra ada models? I cant find a price for them anywhere.

Its either going to be me buying like 5 of her, or another ten man squad. I cant affor anything more sadly...

Also, when will ada be mailed? Stage 2 or 3 right?

Another Ada would be the grand price of two of your American dollars, not bad right?

Oh and she is coming in the first shipment. Just check the calculator as Mark updates that before anything else for some reason!




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Hmm, I wonder if I would be able to interchange the Regular APC parts with the Zeus bit? Would mean I don't need to buy half as many if I could!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Mad4Minis wrote:

 Necros wrote:
Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though

Me too. Oh well, Ill be awaiting its regular release. They can count me as a guaranteed sale, just not able to sign up for it right now.

Same here, unfortunately.

Real Life expenses + other recently ended Kickstarters have drained my hobby funds.

I'll be there for the retail release of the Iron Core line though!

Thats exactly my case. My plans to move got delayed, costing more than moving would have, wife is out of work, and Soda Pop ended last weekend. To top it all off a check I was expecting didnt come this week. What Im wondering now is are the ship dates for the stages also the retail release dates?

Nice number, Tann

Retail release dates are likely delayed from KS ship dates, imo.

I was worried that being pretty broke, I wouldn't be able to finally get in on this. But a flurry of Swap Shop/Bartertown sales have replenished my Paypal funds, and I am down for a Crusader and 20 Stormtroopers.

I would like to be down for a 15mm Mortis too, and 4 arms for it, but I think I am just going to have to wait for that. Since I wouldn't get it until 6 months down the road, it doesn't bother me too much. Between now and then I can save a few pennies here and there, and hopefully we'll have a better idea of when and how these items might be available to purchase outside of this Kickstarter. I definitely plan to patronize Mark's work again in the future, and hope that it isn't too long before these models see the light of day (or the dark of various FLGS shelves... )

-C6

Well, looks like it's gathering steam for the showdown


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I hated to do it but had to drop my pledge down to almost nothing. A friend of the family who had been a pastor at ou previous church has had a terrible tragedy. His ten year old daughter has been on life support for the last week, it was unexpected and there has been no higher brain function. She was taken off of life support the other night. We are still praying for a miracle, but are expecting the worst. He has been out of work for six months and has no medical insurance, bill are stacking p frm the doctors.

I still have some in this kickstarter because I think mark has some of the best models out there.

If any dakkite out there believes in a god, please put Jessica in you prayers. Thanks.

Theophony

That's terrible news (not about the KS) Theophony... Sorry to hear it.

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As many backers as day 1! Getting close to the magic number

Theophony wrote:
I hated to do it but had to drop my pledge down to almost nothing. A friend of the family who had been a pastor at ou previous church has had a terrible tragedy. His ten year old daughter has been on life support for the last week, it was unexpected and there has been no higher brain function. She was taken off of life support the other night. We are still praying for a miracle, but are expecting the worst. He has been out of work for six months and has no medical insurance, bill are stacking p frm the doctors.

I still have some in this kickstarter because I think mark has some of the best models out there.

If any dakkite out there believes in a god, please put Jessica in you prayers. Thanks.

Theophony

I think the money is much better sent to a good cause like that. Besides, these minis will be seeing the light of day now, so you can always pick up the rest at your FLGS someday. Right now, that preacher needs the money more.

Besides, the guy has got over 180 grand in the kickstarter, he'll be ok. People like me are getting a little antsy and doubling our pledges

I went from 20 dudes and thats it, to 40 guys, 4 more of the Ada figure, and an extra accessory pack for the heck of it. Don't be surprised if you see it go up and down a lot though, I'll be fiddling with it a bit as I decide what I "want" and what I "need" to get my sisters of battle finally off the ground. The 40 stormtroopers and ada's are definitely staying though!

I can't wait to get these minis. If they're half as good as they look on the kickstarter, they will be worth every penny!

Wow, less than 1K to go till we hit the stretch! I wonder if this will top 200K

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).

After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?

I an curious - just exactly what are you getting?!?

(And yes, I am jealous!)

 Alpharius wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).

After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?

I an curious - just exactly what are you getting?!?

(And yes, I am jealous!)

Looks like 4 of everything

^^ Yeah, sounds about right!

Ada needs a squad!

10 Woman unit... NEW STRETCH GOAL!

What?! Yes! I will have 20 please!

Zeus Strech Goal reached.

Who cares about the Zeus stretch goal? Female stormtroopers!

Another $10k seems a bit too much to ask for in the next few hours though, not saying it isn't doable, I just think all the last minute pledgers should have come forward already, you never know though!

I'm hoping that squad won't be a KS exclusive then?

 ironicsilence wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).

After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?

I an curious - just exactly what are you getting?!?

(And yes, I am jealous!)

Looks like 4 of everything

I hate to list it all, since it makes me cringe a bit, but here goes:
6 boxes of stormtroopers
6 boxes of support weapons
4 boxes of command squads
6 boxes of heavy weapons heavy troopers
6 boxes of assault heavy troopers
3 boxes of heavy troopers
12 APCs
3 of the rocket launcher kits
3 of the zeus kits
5 Adas
1 Leviathan Crusader
1 HEL Cannon
1 Nova Cannon
...and a partridge in a pear tree.

And my pledge is now gonna go up just a bit more to get some of those Black Widows.

I look at it this way: I'm getting a full Imperial Guard army, and a full infantry Space Marine army. And a Warhound titan.
How much would GW charge for all of that?


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 Commander Cain wrote:
Who cares about the Zeus stretch goal? Female stormtroopers!

Another $10k seems a bit too much to ask for in the next few hours though, not saying it isn't doable, I just think all the last minute pledgers should have come forward already, you never know though!

Yeah, looks like I'll be staying up late tonight to keep an eye on it. I'd love to get at least one squad of the Black Widows, but I'll need to be ready to adjust my pledge if we make that goal or not.

guess I should have guessed 6 of everything!

Weird: A kickstarter update said that it is impossible to adjust the pledge amount after the end of the kickstarter.

1.) Why? This is uncommon.
2.) How am I supposed to deal with a yet unreached stretch goal? If I don't pay before it is available, I don't get it. If I pay and it doesn't get available, I paid for nothing.

That's a lot of stuff, including a lot of APCs!

 Kroothawk wrote:
Weird: A kickstarter update said that it is impossible to adjust the pledge amount after the end of the kickstarter.

1.) Why? This is uncommon.
2.) How am I supposed to deal with a yet unreached stretch goal? If I don't pay before it is available, I don't get it. If I pay and it doesn't get available, I paid for nothing.

Well I just added $22 in case the female squad came along, I will just get 10 more regular troops if we don't hit it. It does seem a little odd though, every other ks I have done seems to allow increases in pledges after it is over!

Kroot- I think he just doesn't want people to count on adding in things after the fact. In the same update he said "After Kickstarter pledge manager? I do not have an answer at this point. As I will not be doing the order fulfillment, I need to be conscious of the mess I create for the WGF crew. We are discussing the possibility and trying to define how it would work and how it would integrate into their software database, but as of now I do not have a yes or no…"

So, if an international backer forgets to add shipping for example, I'm sure they'll have to work that out, but he just doesn't have an answer for it.

Personally, I'm using the online calculator so I've made sure my amount is correct... although I just upped it to include a squad of female tank hunters!

I think a pledge manager will be essential for just such a reason as people forgetting to add shipping. For example, each time I went on the calculator to put my stuff in I would forget to change it to "international", look at the total and be pretty proud with myself for being so good to my wallet, until I realized I forgot the $60 extra shipping costs of course...

My feeling, though, is that due to logistics he won't have a "pledge manager" like CMON, but will have to work with people 1on1... making it a lot easier if people have their pledges correct when it ends. The other Kickstarter I participated in that was a one-man band had a similar strategy- i.e., fill out what you want in the survey at the end, and pledge adjustment only happens if there was a problem / etc, but it's not an automated system (that takes some programming and the calculator is not of Mark's creation, but a volunteer backer of this Kickstarter).

Come on anti-tank squad I actually think we will make it, will be a riveting last push!!

Pledged for a couple extra Adas - even I can afford them at $2.00 a piece

Well I am going to watch the latest Doctor Who episode, have an early night and then see where we landed in the morning! Come on folks, we can do this!

I'd like to have had a tiny bit more info on the female troopers. Plastic? Metal? Resin? Single-cast or multipart? I also have Kroot's dilemma.

I'll post a question about that in the comments, but I'm sure they are going to be multi-part plastic, like every other kit other than the 2 kickstarter exclusive freebie models (shadokesh and Ada).


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Looks like he already answered it in the updates tab (from someone else asking):

Mark on Kickstarter wrote:Multipart like the ST but I need to tweak all the proportions, slightly shorter and smaller, larger hips, thinner shoulders and arms, etc. No helmeted heads, although your ST helmeted heads will fit.

ST = stormtroopers

 RiTides wrote:
I'll post a question about that in the comments, but I'm sure they are going to be multi-part plastic, like every other kit other than the 2 kickstarter exclusive freebie models (shadokesh and Ada).


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Looks like he already answered it in the updates tab (from someone else asking):

Mark on Kickstarter wrote:Multipart like the ST but I need to tweak all the proportions, slightly shorter and smaller, larger hips, thinner shoulders and arms, etc. No helmeted heads, although your ST helmeted heads will fit.

ST = stormtroopers

Yep multi-part plastic just like the ST

5 hours to go, about 10k needed, correct me if I'm wrong but havent we already gotten higher then the kick tracker suggested?

Holy crap, plastic sisters! I'd heartily suggest a separate accessory sprue but those could be huge for you Mark if the head are done well.

Thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye on it over the next few hours and see if we're likely to make it before adding the cash.

I'd add it now, but if we don't make it, I'd want to turn it into a weapon arm, but then if that happened, I'd want to add another $25 to make it 4/3.

Oh, the pain of it all!

looks like from the comments Mark's next KS will be for the game and the Shadokesh

Yeah, kicktraq has trouble keeping up with the final pushes, they're crazy! The projection tab is broken as the max is 4k below where we are now, but the trend is pointing at 196K. But given the spike we just hit with this anouncement that is constantly revising upwards, too. It's going to be hard to go to bed and not watch this end!

Hulk- Agreed, I wonder if when they release he might be able to simply tweak the normal trooper accessory sprue to have female heads on it, soas not to have to do a major re-work. I am going to have tons of bits leftover from my normal troopers to convert the tank hunters with, though, since I pledged for some extra accessory sprues to get more unhelmeted heads.

ironic- I know, and that comment made me up my pledge for 4 of the Kickstarter exclusive shadokesh models... since they're November deliveries and I would feel bad missing them if the Shadokesh look awesome later!




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Like I said, constantly revising upwards- now trending toward about $197K and rising.

Mark replied to a comment I made on the kickstarter that may be of interest to some:

"I wonder if the Black Widows can be modeled to wield rifles instead of the AT guns? I would be in for a bunch more of them if that was possible."
ABSOLUTELYLY! I will make sure they can

8.5k and >4 hours to go. Don't think we're going to make the last one. Rats!

You mean 6.5K now . I think we will! I made one final up to my pledge... and I think he's going to give us that goal even if we fall just a hair short, anyway.

Will be looking forward to seeing what it reads when I wake up!

~$5400 to go with just over three hours. I'll stay up for it (it'll end 1:45AM my time). I might cave in and pledge for more than just the one box of Black Widows I'm already in for. The fact that Mark said they can carry the rifles is a big selling point for me.

Yeah, I signed up for 3! How could I not know all this time how much I needed some counts-as sisters allies

Ok, well, I'm in. I wasn't going to, but I am now.

 RiTides wrote:
You mean 6.5K now . I think we will! I made one final up to my pledge... and I think he's going to give us that goal even if we fall just a hair short, anyway.

Will be looking forward to seeing what it reads when I wake up!

Heh. If there was a way to confirm that, I'd go in for a box or two, but with $4k and 2 hours, it's too far from a sure thing.

Welcome The other timezones must carry us the last few thousand since east coast US is going to bed for the most part! Except for those of us unable to sleep, watching this end

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Yeah that timer is odd- I think there is 2 hours 50 minutes left, but it switches once it's under 3. Won't read in minutes for almost an hour and a half yet I believe...


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Also just a hair over 3K to go now . My eyes are glued!

 RiTides wrote:
Are you in for infantry / APC stuff or a leviathan?

2 boxes of the Heavy Support Troopers, 2 15mm Crusaders, 1 15mm Mortis, 8 extra weapon arms (2 small cannon, 1 big cannon, 1 melta, 1 laser thingy, 2 chainswords, one left-hand claw).

Now the real question: are the Black Widows able to be mixed and matched with pieces from the trooper sprues? That would make for some awesome conversions.

This thing is just...I started off pledging 50 last night (after intending not to do anything), and I've already bumped it to 100. I will have 1 cent left in my account until my tax comes in (which is monday, so tomorrow, but still...its an uneasy feeling). I want those widows...is their look going the be the same kind of thing as the sniper chick?

 kaiohx wrote:
Now the real question: are the Black Widows able to be mixed and matched with pieces from the trooper sprues? That would make for some awesome conversions.

In response to my question on the KS comments, Mark did say that they can use the normal rifles.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Are you in for infantry / APC stuff or a leviathan?

2 boxes of the Heavy Support Troopers, 2 15mm Crusaders, 1 15mm Mortis, 8 extra weapon arms (2 small cannon, 1 big cannon, 1 melta, 1 laser thingy, 2 chainswords, one left-hand claw).

No APCs?

I thought they'd be right up your alley.

I have 12 Chimeras. The last thing I need are more APCs, let alone Land Raider-sized ones.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I have 12 Chimeras. The last thing I need are more APCs, let alone Land Raider-sized ones.

And you believe it when you tell yourself that?

Just over $400 to go!

And we hit $200k just after I posted the above!
w00t!

Well, looks like I should know better by now!

whelp, that's it. I'm at $97 now... How does this kickstarter keep doing that?!?!? Everytime I think I"m done, some new shiney bit comes out and I'm like "ooooooh", and next thing I know I'm upping my pledge again. I haven't even seen a render of the tankbuster squad and I already know I want one for some strange reason


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EDIT: man that pledge counter is going back and forth like crazy. One second it's 202,000, next it's only 200,212. People must be adjusting pledges like crazy

How much for the ten Black Widows? Looks like I might be upping my pledge rather unexpectedly!

Anyone know if the Dreadknights gauntlets would look strange on the ends of the arms?

I'm not sure if I should spend the extra and get the extra dreamforge gauntlets, considering that I would then have to convert the fingers to grip a sword, if the dreadknights would work just as well.

20 I'm pretty sure

man this has been awesome, really happy for Mark

 ironicsilence wrote:
man this has been awesome, really happy for Mark

+1

CONGRATS!

 catharsix wrote:
How much for the ten Black Widows? Looks like I might be upping my pledge rather unexpectedly!

$20 for ten, and they're a stage 3 delivery item.

Also, does this math sound right, because I thought if I bought items from multiple stages I had to pay the $7 shipping for all of them.

So far I've got the hold the line stormtrooper deal (40 guys with 2 free upgrade sprues apparently. Awesome, I thought I only got one) with 1 free ada and 4 more I pay $2 a piece for, and a free shadokesh guy. $77 bucks

Then, I get to the 10 Woman Schwarze Witwen Squad (Ada's squad) for $20, and $7 shipping.

So that would mean I need to pledge $104 correct?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 catharsix wrote:
How much for the ten Black Widows? Looks like I might be upping my pledge rather unexpectedly!

$20 for ten, and they're a stage 3 delivery item.

Also, does this math sound right, because I thought if I bought items from multiple stages I had to pay the $7 shipping for all of them.

So far I've got the hold the line stormtrooper deal (40 guys with 2 free upgrade sprues apparently. Awesome, I thought I only got one) with 1 free ada and 4 more I pay $2 a piece for, and a free shadokesh guy. $77 bucks

Then, I get to the 10 Woman Schwarze Witwen Squad (Ada's squad) for $20, and $7 shipping.

So that would mean I need to pledge $104 correct?

have you used the pledge calculator? Shipping can cost more if your using the ship it to me now option vs the ship everything at the end option

http://www.dreamforge-games.com/kickstartshipping/DFCalc.htm Punch it into that.

Yeah that's what I punched it into. It didn't give me an option for ship it now or not though.

It shows "ship when ready" and "ship complete" but they're both the same total. Is that what you're referring to?

EDIT: Nevermind I figured out why my totals are the same

Domestic shipping: All stage 1 is still free. Stage 2 will require the addition of a $7.00 delivery fee and if you pledge for stage 3 items this will require another $7.00 delivery fee.

Should be down at the bottom, it will show a ship when ready and a ship when complete line, assuming your stuff is from different stages, if its all from the same stage then ignore me

I have a question, when do you choose what kind of shipping? Is it when you do the survey thing at the end?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Yeah that's what I punched it into. It didn't give me an option for ship it now or not though.

It shows "ship when ready" and "ship complete" but they're both the same total. Is that what you're referring to?

yeah if they're the same then likely everything is from the same stage

Mini-mortis with left hand mauler to replace the scythe should be $74 international, right?

Really hope so, not much time to change the pledge now

I have a bunch of stage 1 stuff and 1 stage 3. But apparently, since I'm domestic shipping, all stage 1 stuff is still free shipping, so it doesn't matter.

Now i"ve just got to figure out how to tell them I want my minis as soon as possilbe so I'm not waiting for my stormtroopers until may of next year

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I have a bunch of stage 1 stuff and 1 stage 3. But apparently, since I'm domestic shipping, all stage 1 stuff is still free shipping, so it doesn't matter.

Now i"ve just got to figure out how to tell them I want my minis as soon as possilbe so I'm not waiting for my stormtroopers until may of next year

thats odd, I've got stuff from stage 1, 2, and 3 and it still shows me an additional charge for ship when ready

Alrighty, I'm in:

1 Extra Ada
1 Leviathan Crusader 28mm
2 Leviathan Crusader 15mm
2 Left Hand Mauler Claws 15mm
2 Right Hand Mauler Claws 15mm
3 Heavy Trooper Assault Squads
International Postage (all at once)

$264

 ironicsilence wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I have a bunch of stage 1 stuff and 1 stage 3. But apparently, since I'm domestic shipping, all stage 1 stuff is still free shipping, so it doesn't matter.

Now i"ve just got to figure out how to tell them I want my minis as soon as possilbe so I'm not waiting for my stormtroopers until may of next year

thats odd, I've got stuff from stage 1, 2, and 3 and it still shows me an additional charge for ship when ready

Yeah I just figured that out too. Do only stage 1 and 3. They will be the same.

Now add stage two, and you only recieve an extra $7 dollar shipping charge. It's kind of weird. Not really that much more expensive to get it hurried though, so I guess that's a good thing. Apparently for me its the same either way. Hope that's right on the calculator

Question: I can get the Black Widows, Ada and Feral Shadokesh for a grand total of $20? Am I right on that?

I think bare minimum it would be $27 dollars, as the two freebies are from a seperate stage compared to the black widows. Check and see on the shipping calculator maybe?

It does come out to $27 using the pledge calculator but it doesn't add the KS exclusives. Do I have to take the 10 man troop choice and add on the Black Widows for $20?

so ADA and her girls broke me. I jumped my pledge up quick for the assault troopers I originally wanted and the blackwidows. I spent less then I anticipated this weekend at the con. ^^

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
so ADA and her girls broke me. I jumped my pledge up quick for the assault troopers I originally wanted and the blackwidows. I spent less then I anticipated this weekend at the con. ^^

Yeah I ended up pledging for a box. $20 for 10 was just too tempting for me, and since I'd be making them female anyways, it just saves me some extra work . I hope this Iron Core game takes off around here, if it's half as good as the models, it'll be a lot of fun.

I really wanted some valkir or whatever they're called but the $40 box was just too much for me to add on. I wish I could've gotten a 5 or 10 man group of them though, they look awesome. I also wanted an APC or two, but again, the cash just wasn't there...

Oh well, I'll have 45 stormtrooper models, 2 upgrade sprues, and some wierd alien dude with a dog in november, and some black widows in may, all for around $104 with shipping. Can't beat that!

Just wished I had about $300 more to afford all the other toys I wanted *pouts*

$205,972...

Not a bad start I'd say. Looking forward to what comes next!

Interesting - in the email backers just got, it mentions "Contact those who may require addition funding to cover the items they were backing"

So don't worry if you missed out on adding something, looks like you might get the chance later

Had to add 3xassault, 3xsupport and 2x fems to my pledge at the end. Such sweet models!

Thank you guys! Nowhere have I seen the support or interest shown here on DAKKA
THANK YOU!

Mark Mondragon
DreamForge-Games

Gratz on the project.

I for one am interested in the game, and hope to see alot more of you in the future.

So you got some of my money. I got 80 troops coming my way. I still think you need to revisit the assault rifle in the future though. The current one will work great as a SAW or light machine gun, but you need to bridge the gap between the submachine gun and that, especially considering that you released the APC, that gun it too long for standard assault work.


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Charax wrote:
Interesting - in the email backers just got, it mentions "Contact those who may require addition funding to cover the items they were backing"

So don't worry if you missed out on adding something, looks like you might get the chance later

That's usually how these work. I can see some money clearing up in a few weeks, might have to add some more, especially if he puts some imagines of the black widows together.

 NoseGoblin wrote:
Thank you guys! Nowhere have I seen the support or interest shown here on DAKKA
THANK YOU!

Mark Mondragon
DreamForge-Games

doubled your dream goal for you Mark!

really hope we can add more later... if I get my issues with the VA worked out I'd snag some valkir and another crusader at least.

...... fml....

i spent most of my day working out deals to get the money to put down, and i missed it actually putting money down.... crapsicles... oh well....

Congrats Mark!! Woke up at 4am wondering how this did

Poda- Maybe there will be an option to add and you can join someone you know. Bummer you missed it!

Congratulations Mark!

Congrats Mark!

And good job team, unlike most of the othe KS I've watched this one has remained possitive, with only good feedback. To me that speaks well of the concept here at dakkadakka. Also means once the game comes out we should be able to have an interesting group of supporters.

Congrats Mark! If this had come at the beginning of october i would have been able to spend so much more, but alas, it did not, and i did not.

We did it! And with another $5k extra to top it all off. Congrats!

Congrats as well! Looks like I picked a great project for my first kickstarter!!

damnit I went to bed expecting to not make it and missed out on the female troops :(

I had to downgrade my pledge to $195 from 600 :( all I could afford after my car broke down. Originally planned on getting a little.bit of everything, right now it looks like im in for a leviathan, 4 extra weaps, 4 extra ada and 4 extra ferals

I pledged for almost 400$ but the real killer is waiting 9 months for those heavy infantry.. They are what drove sales to me

Congratulations Mark!

I know il be checking my mailbox daily for APCs!

chaos0xomega wrote:
I had to downgrade my pledge to $195 from 600 :( all I could afford after my car broke down. Originally planned on getting a little.bit of everything, right now it looks like im in for a leviathan, 4 extra weaps, 4 extra ada and 4 extra ferals

Huh, my car broke down as well! It's okay though, I ordered a couple of APCs so I will just use them to get to work instead...

 Commander Cain wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I had to downgrade my pledge to $195 from 600 :( all I could afford after my car broke down. Originally planned on getting a little.bit of everything, right now it looks like im in for a leviathan, 4 extra weaps, 4 extra ada and 4 extra ferals

Huh, my car broke down as well! It's okay though, I ordered a couple of APCs so I will just use them to get to work instead...

Gotta have priorities!

Wow that total is absolutely awesome. Congrats to Mark on that success; he definitely earned it. Also props to the Dakka community for keeping their interest going and playing nice the whole time (insanely rare on the Internet).

Now, to await the goodies....

Charax wrote:
Interesting - in the email backers just got, it mentions "Contact those who may require addition funding to cover the items they were backing"

So don't worry if you missed out on adding something, looks like you might get the chance later

Mark hasnt confirmed one way or another yet if people will be able to pledge for more afterwards, the above statement is there to cover off people that just put in the incorrect pledge amount, like if you pledged for 100 bucks and after the survey your total was suppose to be 110 bucks

Mark, congrats.

But that was a very, very evil move. I was out all day planning my mother's 65th birthday surprise party. I totally missed out on the black widows. And I asked you for ladies weeks ago! Come on man!

If you're okay with selling fewer valkirs, then we're good, I suppose. If there is any way I can adjust my pledge post KS, then you'll get more money.

Well, I thought I was going to have to pull out all or most of my pledge due to some unforseen circumstances.
But then it all turned out good.
I thought I was short money, but it turns out I had paid my car note twice last month, so didn't have one due this month.

Yay me!

Now to wait for the goodies to start coming in.
First up is to finish painting my Fallschirmjager troops so I can move to my Kriegsmarine, then my 15mm resin Crusader.

How cool do you think one will look in a WW2 German 3 color ambush pattern?

 NoseGoblin wrote:
Thank you guys! Nowhere have I seen the support or interest shown here on DAKKA
THANK YOU!

Mark Mondragon
DreamForge-Games

No, Mark, I thank YOU for designing such awesome models.
The sad part is, after I got up this morning, I realized I needed 3 more APCs! Hopefully, like others are saying, there's a way I can get those added in.

Congrats on 205k Sucks that you gotta give 20k to Amazon and Kickstarter now

I screwed up though. I'm poor so I meant to drop my pledge to $20 for just some troopers, I changed my pledge to the troopers, but never adjusted the cash, so I ended up still paying $89. Guess I'll get a leviathan after all then I'll probably go with the crusader. I love the mortis but I'm too impatient to wait. I can just get a mortis too when they're ready

Seeing that you are pretty talented at designing, you should also design a weapons kit. Flamethrowers and other weapons to attach to the plastic storm troopers. I've just now thought about how to assemble the troopers and without rules I'm not really sure what the loadout should be.

 RiTides wrote:
Congrats Mark!! Woke up at 4am wondering how this did

Poda- Maybe there will be an option to add and you can join someone you know. Bummer you missed it!

Don't know anyone around my neck of the woods and whether they joined in... oh well... I guess I have $100 to drop on the next kickstarter... I missed by about 30 minutes.

>_<

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Mark, congrats.

But that was a very, very evil move. I was out all day planning my mother's 65th birthday surprise party. I totally missed out on the black widows. And I asked you for ladies weeks ago! Come on man!

If you're okay with selling fewer valkirs, then we're good, I suppose. If there is any way I can adjust my pledge post KS, then you'll get more money.

Mathieu, it was definitely a last minute addition and I had trouble with maths last night, and even though I upped my pledge significantly there's a few things that I didn't account for. I think it will sort itself out rather easily with the survey, though as I'm going to fill out what I wanted and hopefully be able to add money, since the total is off now.

As noted before:

Kickstarter Update #60 wrote:4) Compare the survey to what you were backing and see if everything adds up, contact those who may require addition funding to cover the items they were backing.

Also, poda- While maybe not close, I note that Mathieu is in Canada, and if he's having to correct his total anyway...

Hey Mark,
before signing any contracts with the current boss of Wargames Factory, just make sure to read the contract carefully.
Last time he made a contract, he managed a hostile takeover of Wargames Factory with copyrights on all products. The previous owner started new as Defiance Games. Just saying

Kroothawk, I think we also know that it's a bit more complex than that.

But before we go OT too long, yes, if I get a chance to readjust and someone doesn't mind sending me a cheque (nothing too extravagant, mind you) I'll be glad to help out a fellow dakkanaut.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Kroothawk, I think we also know that it's a bit more complex than that.

But before we go OT too long, yes, if I get a chance to readjust and someone doesn't mind sending me a cheque (nothing too extravagant, mind you) I'll be glad to help out a fellow dakkanaut.

I'm selling you my 10 girls for 50$, interested ?

So my end total:
1x Crusader
2x HEL cannons
1x Black Widow squad
2x Heavy Assault squad

Also we all still get Ada correct? Am I the only one who thinks it's awesome that the first named character we've seen is a bad ass female?

My total :

1 x 20 stormtroopers box
2 x 28 mm Leviathan Crusader
1 x additional Ada
1 x additional Shadokesh
2 x Beowulf/Grendel Arm
1 x Ripper saw
1 x HEL Cannon
1 x Heavy Valkir box
1 x APC
1 x 10 stormtroopers women box

Thanks Mark ! Can't wait for these to get home =)
Just 9 months...

So, any idea on when the survey will be sent out to confirm what we all ordered?

Well, it had better come before november!

I love you too, Von, but I loves my monies a bit more. Nothing personal.

I definitely think I will skip the valkirs if it means more Stormtroopers of the female kind.

From the details Reaper provided.

Amazon spends 7 days trying to collect the cash

After that KS takes up to 14 days more before passing the money & backer details to Mark (Seems to be taking longer than that for some KS projects tho)

Then Mark will need to deal with it (or maybe WGF will be doing it for him)

I think I've seen surveys go out sooner than that, though... and I would think he'll need totals for the November items somewhat quickly (although they'll be getting put on a boat regardless, I imagine, so maybe they don't need to know specific numbers until they hit the US).

He said he'd be sleeping today, though, and then tackling all of that . I think he deserves a day off! When he comes back up I hope we can find out more about the process of sending the remaining funds for pledges that are off (mine is off significantly... but that means I also have significant funds to send, which I think should be a good thing!).

What is about female troopers?

Wish I had heard about this sooner. I would pay a decent chunk of change had I known. Female IG is kind of the holy grail for me .

Hello all,

I realize that there will be backers that did not have a chance to participate in the late rewards for a number of reasons. I need to have a few conference calls with WGF to find out how we will handle that side of things… I hope to be able to at least explain what we can do on Monday or Tuesday. The gentleman who handles those issues is a brand new father as of last week, so we have not had an opportunity to resolve those issues yet... He has been at home attending to his family.

The moment I know the direction we are heading I will post an update.

Thanks again!
Mark

Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Mark! Monday or Tuesday would be great to find out where you're heading with this

I hope, like other kickstarters, that the total can just be rectified with a Paypal payment for those who are short of what they wanted to pledge for. Would be the easiest way to do it, I think

Thanks Mark looking forward to the update... with any luck we'll be able to add a little at the end, once I get this VA stuff straightened out I could go for changing my order a tad XD.

Like another crusader... and a box of Valkir... and an APC... XD

Congrats to Mark on such a successful kickstarter. I would have jumped in just on principle, but the Eisenkern aesthetic isn't my thing, and my hobby budget is less than zero right now. Now that Iron Core is a lock now, I'll certainly try to stash some money away for the next faction

 Guildsman wrote:
Congrats to Mark on such a successful kickstarter...Now that Iron Core is a lock now, I'll certainly try to stash some money away for the next faction

Seconded...and hes said that Shadokesh is next. Im hoping that Protectorate is after that, most because they use actual tanks...and I cant wait to see some Iron Core tanks.

You're right, Eisenkern is fleshed out enough for the moment, it is certainly a sizeable, diverse enough force for a starting game system. To have a force that favours tanks over walkers would be interesting.

Man this reminds me sooooooooo much of the good ol' Battletech days. I used to love clan Hell Horse...

I ended up getting:

Crusader
Extra arm
3X baby mortis's
4x arms
60 light infantry
Command squad
20 heavy infantry
heavy assault squad
heavy shooty squad

The mini mortis seems to have been very popular.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
The mini mortis seems to have been very popular.

Yeah, my plan is to use them as admech "sisters of battle", with units of adepticonstructs as penetent engines, heavy troopers as allied blood angles and the baby mortises as death company dreads

lotta dreads in that army

at least until dreamforges rules are done.

I look forward to seeing if it's possible to grab some extra stuff that we might have not been able to pledge for in time. I'm currently sitting on:

3xLeviathans
4xExtra Arms
5x15mm Leviathans
12x15mm Weapons

And if given a chance to grab some extra's it'd probably be along the lines of:

5x20 Man Regular Infantry
2xBlack Widow Squads
3x15mm Mortis
8x15mm Weapons

That's at the most but for sure around an extra $150-$200. Just missed the chance to swap my pledge up since I was busy all last night.

I wonder if WGF will notice how well this kickstarter did and ramp up some of their own stuff with one.

I hope they noticed how well this did and chain mark to a desk to design the rest of the iron-core universe. We'll let him up for potty breaks from time to time but if a catheter is required to get everything done.....

Just kidding about the catheter, not so much about the chains.

I decided to go very modest.

Boots on the ground with the APC. I wanted to add the rockets but I was sleeping off an illness, probably good because I am out of money.

Plus the catheter makes you lose involuntary muscle control down there for a while, so it would take longer to prop him back up for public appearances, so I'd say it's a no-go.

But it's not as if WGF has actually bought DreamForge, eh? So as long as Mark makes his payments on time, he'll be fine. I'm guessing he's going to want to maybe hire a person or two to help him out, at least on a temporary basis.

I bet he would have no end of volunteers from here

Yeah, but doing concept art, keeping tabs of production paperwork, doing all the editing for the rules...

I'm sure he'll find a boatload of playtesters here, no problem. But having a team physically with you to brainstorm, that's a bit different. Or maybe I am just old school.

you might be oldschool, I know I am. But we just started doing facetime with my brother and sister-in-law who are in CA while we are in MO. Seems simple enough and would be possible to co-ordinate with a few people. I am no techno-geek by any stretch and rarely text. I have facebook because some of my old highschool friends told me they keep up with each other online. tried it for about a week, haven't touched it in months.

P.S. Mark if your reading this go back to sleep or get to designing and planning the next Kick Starter.

Just a side note, thank you to everyone who sent me pms or responded here about my friends daughter. She passed away early this morning, I don't have all the details yet, and have not had a chance to talk to him during this entire ordeal. The family will need prayer now more than ever as they continue forward.

 bbb wrote:
I wonder if WGF will notice how well this kickstarter did and ramp up some of their own stuff with one.

Well, in my opinion, the reason that Mark's project has succeeded so fantastically is his truly impressive designs. Of course, his hard work, planning, engagement with people, etc. helps - but I (and a lot of others, I bet) wouldn't have bought in if the stuff wasn't just absolutely cooler than anything out there.. I can't think of a single company besides GW that has stuff as awesomely designed as this. Not PP, not any of the smaller companies. Heck, I think that Mark's work is even superior to some of Forgeworld's stuff (and the simple, easy joy of PLATIC!).

WGF would have to get some new designer(s) with some good skills - their greatcoat stormtroopers, for example, are really mediocre, in terms of design, in my opinion (though kudos for having a multi-part plastic kit that' svery readily available).

I think WGF should back Mark's Iron-Core line if they could. It's so much better than anything else out there. Hopefully, at least, this Kickstarter will lead to an ongoing relationship in which mark can design stuff that WGF then physically manufactures.

-C6

 catharsix wrote:


I think WGF should back Mark's Iron-Core line if they could. It's so much better than anything else out there. Hopefully, at least, this Kickstarter will lead to an ongoing relationship in which mark can design stuff that WGF then physically manufactures.

-C6

Oh, I'm sure WGF is putting a lot of thought into extensively supporting Iron Core. Their shock troopers were clearly a disappointment, but Mark's stuff is amazing (as stated before, it's the quality of the sculpt going in that determines the quality of the models coming out). I would bet money that WGF would love to have a complete Sci-Fi line of minis to represent multiple armies that are not only used for a specific game, but can also easily be marketed as a less costly alternative to be used in W40K. The Kickstarter comments have many people, myself included, stating the intention of using these models in W40K.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 catharsix wrote:


I think WGF should back Mark's Iron-Core line if they could. It's so much better than anything else out there. Hopefully, at least, this Kickstarter will lead to an ongoing relationship in which mark can design stuff that WGF then physically manufactures.

-C6

Oh, I'm sure WGF is putting a lot of thought into extensively supporting Iron Core. Their shock troopers were clearly a disappointment, but Mark's stuff is amazing (as stated before, it's the quality of the sculpt going in that determines the quality of the models coming out). I would bet money that WGF would love to have a complete Sci-Fi line of minis to represent multiple armies that are not only used for a specific game, but can also easily be marketed as a less costly alternative to be used in W40K. The Kickstarter comments have many people, myself included, stating the intention of using these models in W40K.

Perhaps a simple matter of different boxing. Sell them as both Iron Core specific and generic WGF models. They all come off the same molds, simply put them in whichever box the customer orders. Provide an incentive to Dreamforge either through credits/discounts on thier orders, or a license fee on the WGF branded sales.

Just realized I never posted a final count of what I bought so might as well do it now! Here goes:

20-man Infantry set,
Ada (x2),
Shakodesh,
Support weapons squad (x3),
Command Squad,
Heavy support Squad,
Heavy assault Squad,
Heavy Valkir unit,
Female tank hunter squad,

Total- 100 minis!

Funny thing is that I never planned for such a nice round number but hey, it works out pretty good!

Now I didn't get any vehicles or leviathans but I am looking for a more sleek, sci-fi type thing to go with my sedition wars stuff. Don't suppose any of you can point me in the right direction?

The problem with the Shock Troops is not so much the design (it's not that great), but the fact that it stands all alone, imo. There is almost no company support in creating a game, or campaigns. The Historical stuff is fine, there are plenty of games that can use it, but sci-fi, if you don't want to purely be used as a "count-as" provider, needs its own game.

Heck, they could endorse Stargrunt II at a minimum and it'd be something.

Iron-Core would be a deity-send for WGF.

I got Ninja'd big time on this one...

I wanted to throw in on KS but my entire budget for the next several months was blown on Zombicide/Sedition Wars/Red Box Games and haven't had enough time to recover. While I was all over KS at first I'm finding it kinda odd now as I'm broke over stuff I won't see for months. grr.

I'm glad to see Mark raised some good numbers as I love his work and plastic kits are win. I'll definately be picking them up when they are available for general release.


Mark make sure you work with a lawyer avoid the situation WGF ended up in, also check with a tax accountant as "donations" from kickstarter could be considered capital gains and mean a very heavy chunk in taxes.

 paulson games wrote:
While I was all over KS at first I'm finding it kinda odd now as I'm broke over stuff I won't see for months. grr.

I find myself in much the same boat.

Gels nicely with GWs secrecy policy though.

"Oh, you finally decided to announce XXX army? Hah! I spent my money for the next four months already!"

I was only able to do 20 man x3 option. Wish i could have done more but i was tapped out for more than just my hobby budget by the first week of the month. Damn gi bill not paying on time. I still got dark vengeance and chaos crap to get. Oh well!!!

New update, looks like Mark is really hustling on the pledge manager!

Yesterday was a day of prepping files, making punch lists and phone calls

I don’t have a specific day that the survey will go out but we are looking towards the end of this week, WGF is still working on the coding and looking over the best way to deal with additional pledge amounts if needed.

We will try to have a custom account for each backer that uses either/both your name and or you email to sign into the pledge manager. Your pledge amount will auto fill and if you go over what has already been paid, it will open an option to submit the remaining amount through a PayPal account that WGF is setting up. I have a PayPal account but I would prefer not to use it as WGF will need continual access to the account to verify the revised pledges against what they will have in a database. The pledge manager will remain open and available for a few weeks; we will need to close it down before the items are scheduled to leave China. This will likely be late October (I will update when I have a specific date on this).

Soon after the pledge manager has been made available to the Kickstarter backers, I will open up a pledge manager to handle pledges from those that were unable to participate in the Kickstarter. Participating in the Kickstarter was an issue for some customers that did not have credit cards that could be accepted by Amazon Payments. We are still working on the procedure for this to try and limit abuse.

All the best!

Mark

The end of the week would be much faster then any of the comparable KSers that I have been involved with.

Yes, that is a result. The sooner I can tell Mark what Shinies I want, the better.

I kept on using the online calculator to work out what I wanted would cost me, so I shouldn't have extra to pay, (and yes, I was on the "International" tab) in fact my total with ship as soon as available came to $397. I hope he takes the full $400, although I expect him to double check that, as even without a rule set, the models alone deserve to succeed and a couple of $ spare is not going to worry me. It might persuade mark to set up a list of previous backers for the next faction so he can e-mail them and let them know that the next KS is up and running - I was late to this one, only finding out about it with 10 days left, and I hate to think how hard I'd have been kicking myself if I hadn't had time to get some models.






Oi! I'm more than Basecoated Black, I'm CAPTAIN Black! Cheek!

Paypal will also allow more people to jump in on this now. I know my gaming group went bonkers trying to contact me to get the black widows squad. I'm so happy my cell was off during that evening.

All's well that ends well. And we get stuff this year too!

Theophony wrote:
I hope they noticed how well this did and chain mark to a desk to design the rest of the iron-core universe. We'll let him up for potty breaks from time to time but if a catheter is required to get everything done.....

Just kidding about the catheter, not so much about the chains.

LOL I am already on a caffeine drip IV, a catheter may be the next step

No need for messy catheters, just get one of these

Ooooooooohhhhhhhh man!

Did anyone see the leaked pictures on the CSM thread?

I may need more than just the 6 15mm leviathans that I got. I think these will be super Forge Fiends!!! Can't wait for these guys to show up now and all the arms!

Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait. etc.

Fantastic Mark! Glad I can add to my pledge with Paypal

Salacious- Wow, one is even called a "Maulerfiend". Talk about perfect timing for the Dreamforge Mauler! Buy a few gun arms and use it as a Forgefiend. I have a feeling when that book hits, if it's before the pledge manager closes by end of Oct, more people will be jumping in for 15mm Maulers.

At the very least, there was going to be a need for Hellbrutes from the DV kit. That's why I had already pledged for 2 of them.

If they can be bought in units, however, I might need to rethink my pledge...

Very good news. I had no $ to take part in the kickstarter, but will be looking forward to purchasing at least one of the 15mm Titans when they become available for purchase, hopefully with several arm options. Great news!

 RiTides wrote:
Fantastic Mark! Glad I can add to my pledge with Paypal... if it's before the pledge manager closes by end of Oct, more people will be jumping in for 15mm Maulers.

Hold up, wait, what? We can add on to our pledge until the end of October??

I'm on my mobile so can't copy/paste, but see his latest update on the KS page... I could be misreading it, though.

That would be crazy awesome, since within that time frame I could get the $$ for an APC or two, one with Zeus conversion of course.


EDIT Seems the intent is for those who may have under pledged for things like shipping, though I dont see why it couldnt be used to add on items. I think final call on that would be up to Mark and the folks at WGF.

Update #61:

Yesterday was a day of prepping files, making punch lists and phone calls

I don’t have a specific day that the survey will go out but we are looking towards the end of this week, WGF is still working on the coding and looking over the best way to deal with additional pledge amounts if needed.

We will try to have a custom account for each backer that uses either/both your name and or you email to sign into the pledge manager. Your pledge amount will auto fill and if you go over what has already been paid, it will open an option to submit the remaining amount through a PayPal account that WGF is setting up. I have a PayPal account but I would prefer not to use it as WGF will need continual access to the account to verify the revised pledges against what they will have in a database. The pledge manager will remain open and available for a few weeks; we will need to close it down before the items are scheduled to leave China. This will likely be late October (I will update when I have a specific date on this).

Soon after the pledge manager has been made available to the Kickstarter backers, I will open up a pledge manager to handle pledges from those that were unable to participate in the Kickstarter. Participating in the Kickstarter was an issue for some customers that did not have credit cards that could be accepted by Amazon Payments. We are still working on the procedure for this to try and limit abuse.

All the best!

Mark

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Seems to imply we can tack stuff on.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
The pledge manager will remain open and available for a few weeks; we will need to close it down before the items are scheduled to leave China. This will likely be late October (I will update when I have a specific date on this).

Soon after the pledge manager has been made available to the Kickstarter backers, I will open up a pledge manager to handle pledges from those that were unable to participate in the Kickstarter. Participating in the Kickstarter was an issue for some customers that did not have credit cards that could be accepted by Amazon Payments. We are still working on the procedure for this to try and limit abuse.

This is the part I was referring to . Clearly we can add to pledges, and even have new folks pledge, once this hits! And until he has to close it, sometime in Oct.

Man that will be a headache for the WGF people though if people go nuts adding onto their pledges. I may add on a little extra, but I'm going to keep it to a minimum. May just get some valkir and that's it. I don't think they're intending it to be where everyone just says "BUY ALL THE THINGS!!!111ONEONEONE" and have their pledges triple overnight.

No, I'm sure both DFG and WGF positively hate selling more plastic crack. How could anyone doubt that?

^took the words right out of my mouth.

Unless there is drastic abuse, I do think they'll be quite happy to sell more stuff. Drops in the ocean, so to speak.

You should be glad, MrMoustaffa, it'll give you time to add the stuff you wanted! :-)

When you think about it, November is really just around the corner...

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

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You should be glad, MrMoustaffa, it'll give you time to add the stuff you wanted! :-)

When you think about it, November is really just around the corner...

In light of the disappointing new Chaos stuff just leaked, it looks like I might have more money freed up to invest in a mini-Mortis and arms. ~$75 for a kooky, ZOIDS/Pwer-Rangers style flying Dragon, or same amount for an AWESOME Dreadknight-sized monster with 4 extra arms? Think I'll go for the latter...

-C6

I might be interested in adding some more and/or female infantry, maybe a couple of weapons/APCs - Phase 2 & 3 stuff I couldn't afford at the time (I went in for $700 as it was), but I hope this doesn't impact the delivery dates on the stuff that's due to ship in Phase 1...

I think that's why he needs to close things by the end of Oct. I don't know how WGF works, but I assume they have to ship things by boat from their factory, and then distribute it from a site in the U.S.?

If so, they wouldn't need to know specific numbers of things (assuming they're sending extra) before it gets put on the boat... but they would need to know before it arrived for distribution.

I believe he'd said the survey should go out around the end of this week or so, right? Definitely looking forward to it

hey loving the news about this and so cant wait to get the figures im just wondering if anyone can tell me how the game works or who are the bad guys

please forgive my ignorance lol