rtb02 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
We had leaks from October white dwarf (the Beasts of Chaos stuff) and all that was shown was the beasts stuff. If Orks aren’t in White Dwarf, it means they’ll be out later in the month.

Doesn't I'm afraid

White Dwarf shows releases from the first half of the month, generally. As we didn’t see Ork leaks when we got the Beasts of Chaos leaks, that would imply they are out later in October and will be in November’s white dwarf.

Depends on the sources of the leaks.

We haven't got October WD yet. Can't see them teasing orktober if they're not releasing until late. I think like nighthaunt and such we'll have a staggered release across the month.

Speed freaks
Buggy box
Warboss trike
Squig rocket buggy
Mek shack
Codex et al

Beasts are also already out so that logic also doesn't work.

Beasts being late september and shown on october wd does fit that theory.

It’d be a short white dwarf if Orks aren’t in it.
Though 29th for more knights preorder.
Then Ork preorders 6th, 13th, maybe 20th, - if two weeks for 40k and one for Speed Freeks.


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Unless you just mean Ork 40k release.
Speed Freeks will be, then maybe just the codex and Trike guy for the week after.
And non WD is the other Ork bits preordered from 20th

rtb02 wrote:
Depends on the sources of the leaks.

We haven't got October WD yet. Can't see them teasing orktober if they're not releasing until late. I think like nighthaunt and such we'll have a staggered release across the month.

Speed freaks
Buggy box
Warboss trike
Squig rocket buggy
Mek shack
Codex et al

Beasts are also already out so that logic also doesn't work.

White Dwarf shows the releases from the end of the month before and the start of the month the WD is from. That’s why BoC are in October but already out.

Danny76 wrote:
It’d be a short white dwarf if Orks aren’t in it.
Though 29th for more knights preorder.
Then Ork preorders 6th, 13th, maybe 20th, - if two weeks for 40k and one for Speed Freeks.


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Unless you just mean Ork 40k release.
Speed Freeks will be, then maybe just the codex and Trike guy for the week after.
And non WD is the other Ork bits preordered from 20th

What other knights to come?

Think he got confused with the Canis Rex for some reason. Would be very unlikely there would be yet more knights coming that no-one else has heard a word about before. Or he mixed words preorder and release.

Ai, thought Rex was the last knight especially as the dex is released...

That is the last knight. That's why I think he got somehow mixed it up as "more knights" despite already being on prerelease so either he forgot it's on preorder(thus more knights for preorder) or typoed preorder when meant release.

Are more titans. No knights

zamerion wrote:
Are more titans. No knights

Yeah I meant more Titans not knights.
They’re all the same to me.
Just Humie constructs


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Being tired when I wrote it it may not have made sense

But I meant if only the start of month releases are in WD, then Titans and Speed Freeks would have to be preorder 29th and 6th (release 6th and 13th).

Point being, surely at least the Ork codex if not all the releases will be in the new WD.
I was sure that each issue shows pretty much the 4 weeks preorders following it’s release, so 29/6/13/20) which is all the Saturdays in Oct right?

To be honest I don’t look in too much detail at that part of a WD anymore, as we normally know all that from the internet..

I'm hoping we get some price lists dropping soon as that gives dates. The prices don't bother me but the when does.

rtb02 wrote:
I'm hoping we get some price lists dropping soon as that gives dates. The prices don't bother me but the when does.

Ditto, also for Warhounds. The puppies of Mortis need to walk!

rtb02 wrote:
The prices don't bother me but the when does.

Well, I guess we just found GW's new target demographic.

zamerion wrote:
Are more titans. No knights

Same thing. My Knight box says "Knight Titan."

 Crimson wrote:

zamerion wrote:
Are more titans. No knights

Same thing. My Knight box says "Knight Titan."

I know. But people seemed to be confused with 40k.

I just clarified it

less than 36hrs for ork teaser!

 aracersss wrote:
less than 36hrs for ork teaser!

Seeing not in wd unlikely. Orks look like later half of october

If... what's it called... Speed Freeks (?) is up for pre-order next Saturday, then we might get a preview of that.

Not the Ork book though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If... what's it called... Speed Freeks (?) is up for pre-order next Saturday, then we might get a preview of that.

Not the Ork book though.

Except thbn gw breaks up their style of shoming first half releases in wd

tneva82 wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
less than 36hrs for ork teaser!

Seeing not in wd unlikely. Orks look like later half of october

We haven't seen October dwarf!!!

One leak re beasts and that's it... Hang on before you say late October!!!!!!

I've been doing a Collection Purge lately due to space constraints, and I'm only holding on to my converted Ork Trukks long enough to see if they are playable or convertible into Ork buggies... In fact my whole Ork armies composite depends on the book.... Gork or Mork help!

The struggles of collecting 5 Factions of 40k.

less than 18hrs for ork teaser!

 aracersss wrote:
less than 18hrs for ork teaser!

How to set yourself up for disappointment in three easy steps:
1) Set an unlikely goal
2) Hype that unlikely goal
3) Create a threat about how the world hates you because that unlikely goal wasn't met

 Jidmah wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
less than 18hrs for ork teaser!

How to set yourself up for disappointment in three easy steps:
1) Set an unlikely goal
2) Hype that unlikely goal
3) Create a threat about how the world hates you because that unlikely goal wasn't met

Also worth to notice Regimental Standard also makes a post referencing incoming releases in 2-3 weeks and none show about orks yet so still 2-3 weeks ahead at best for orks probably.

So much baseless speculation here and negativity.

Orktober is in a week. I can't see gw hyping orktober and releasing nothing until mid/ late month. I can see the buggy being released late with speed freaks earlier.

I hope gw prove the naysayers wrong. I

October is 31 days long...whether codex comes on 1st or 3rd week it's still october(

But sure. Ignore the evidence. By making baseless assumptions you just set up yourself for dissapointment. Meanwhile those who look at the evidence are comfortably waiting for the release without freaking out over it

rtb02 wrote:
So much baseless speculation here and negativity.

Orktober is in a week. I can't see gw hyping orktober and releasing nothing until mid/ late month. I can see the buggy being released late with speed freaks earlier.

I hope gw prove the naysayers wrong. I

Have you even considered the possibility that ork previews start on October 1st? They would have a full month with focus on orks, with the release of Speed Freaks in the middle and the codex at the end. You know... Orktober.

Soo...where's the hype from gw?-)

While others are hyping for leaks unlikely to come soon i'm painting orks(stompa, 2 gorkanauts, 30 stormboyz and 21 grots on workbench atm) so they are ready when codex comes maybe 3-4 weeks later

tneva82 wrote:
October is 31 days long...whether codex comes on 1st or 3rd week it's still october(

But sure. Ignore the evidence. By making baseless assumptions you just set up yourself for dissapointment. Meanwhile those who look at the evidence are comfortably waiting for the release without freaking out over it

Lol. What evidence?! There isn't any thus far.


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tneva82 wrote:
Soo...where's the hype from gw?-)

While others are hyping for leaks unlikely to come soon i'm painting orks(stompa, 2 gorkanauts, 30 stormboyz and 21 grots on workbench atm) so they are ready when codex comes maybe 3-4 weeks later

We'll see what is on pre order next week Tonight.

As for the gw hype perhaps the revelation of speed freaks, buggy and trike plus codex. Perhaps you missed those along with the dakka dakka dakka reveal too?

Lots of back and forth about nothing. We have only seen a single page from the new white dwarf, which was beasts of chaos.
The October white dwarf comes out on the 5th. They usually cover preorders up to the magazines release week or the week after.
So the October white dwarf should cover the September 29th preorder, the October 6th preorder and maybe the October 12th preorder.
Possible October releases are:
Kill team commanders
Warhammer underworlds warbands
Adeptus Titanicus warhounds
Speed freeks
Ork codex and minis.

The warbands and the Titan will probably not get a week to themselves.
So we may see a Kill-Team preorder on the 29th, but we will see Speed Freeks on October 6th at the latest.

Chikout wrote:
Lots of back and forth about nothing. We have only seen a single page from the new white dwarf, which was beasts of chaos.
The October white dwarf comes out on the 5th. They usually cover preorders up to the magazines release week or the week after.
So the October white dwarf should cover the September 29th preorder, the October 6th preorder and maybe the October 12th preorder.
Possible October releases are:
Kill team commanders
Warhammer underworlds warbands
Adeptus Titanicus warhounds
Speed freeks
Ork codex and minis.

The warbands and the Titan will probably not get a week to themselves.
So we may see a Kill-Team preorder on the 29th, but we will see Speed Freeks on October 6th at the latest.

Yup. Fully agreed

rtb02 wrote:
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As for the gw hype perhaps the revelation of speed freaks, buggy and trike plus codex. Perhaps you missed those along with the dakka dakka dakka reveal too?

I'm talking about the hype certain people are hell bent believing comes today despite evidenc pointing more toward later half of october for orks.


Still waiting for those. All quiet on that part. Some people are setting themselves up for big dissapointment with no benefit. Codex won't come any sooner even if you keep repeating preorder revealed today despite all evidence shown so far saying otherwise. Nothing indicates preorder for codex next week. Just some people who are setting themselves for dissapointment.

Me? I paint. Much better. I won't be dissapointed either way and will have new units to try with codex when it comes.

tneva82 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
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As for the gw hype perhaps the revelation of speed freaks, buggy and trike plus codex. Perhaps you missed those along with the dakka dakka dakka reveal too?

I'm talking about the hype certain people are hell bent believing comes today despite evidenc pointing more toward later half of october for orks.


Still waiting for those. All quiet on that part. Some people are setting themselves up for big dissapointment with no benefit. Codex won't come any sooner even if you keep repeating preorder revealed today despite all evidence shown so far saying otherwise. Nothing indicates preorder for codex next week. Just some people who are setting themselves for dissapointment.

Me? I paint. Much better. I won't be dissapointed either way and will have new units to try with codex when it comes.

There is no evidence either way. There is no evidence to suggest a release later into October nor any evidence to suggest we'll get something at the start of October. So far its all guess work.

Personally I would be disappointed if we don't get anything until mid way through October. That does not indicate to me an 'Orktober' as promised by GW.

There's no harm in painting until we hear something though. That's exactly what I'm doing as I polish my skills ready for those new buggy releases and try to get through my substantial backlog.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/23/next-week-the-war-for-vigilus-continues/

They're not Orks...

Hate to say I told you so!

 ImAGeek wrote:
Hate to say I told you so!

Alright!

 An Actual Englishman wrote:


There is no evidence either way. There is no evidence to suggest a release later into October nor any evidence to suggest we'll get something at the start of October. So far its all guess work.

Personally I would be disappointed if we don't get anything until mid way through October. That does not indicate to me an 'Orktober' as promised by GW.

There's no harm in painting until we hear something though. That's exactly what I'm doing as I polish my skills ready for those new buggy releases and try to get through my substantial backlog.

We have had leaks of october white dwarf which hints toward later half release. YEs it's not 100% but it's lot more than "first week release".

But sure keep putting your head in the sand if you wish. As was proven already though no 1st week release. October has it, wait for it, FOUR saturdays. Release is unlikely to take 4 weeks. Remember new vehicles in speed freak box are unlikely to come in solo boxes to begin with. More likely between november-january(seeing december is rare one for kit releases). GW wants to sell as much of those for price of more than the two individually will be for after all.

The normal oder of operations is GW hinting some new rules, warlord traits, stratagems and relics for a week, then they announce whatever they were spoiling to be up for pre-order at the end of the week with all those spoilers.

There will be no pre-order announcement before the spoilers for codex have been shown.

 Jidmah wrote:
The normal oder of operations is GW hinting some new rules, warlord traits, stratagems and relics for a week, then they announce whatever they were spoiling to be up for pre-order at the end of the week with all those spoilers.

There will be no pre-order announcement before the spoilers for codex have been shown.

No, it goes preorder announcement for the following Saturday, and then the week up to the Saturday is the stratagems etc being shown.

tneva82 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:


There is no evidence either way. There is no evidence to suggest a release later into October nor any evidence to suggest we'll get something at the start of October. So far its all guess work.

Personally I would be disappointed if we don't get anything until mid way through October. That does not indicate to me an 'Orktober' as promised by GW.

There's no harm in painting until we hear something though. That's exactly what I'm doing as I polish my skills ready for those new buggy releases and try to get through my substantial backlog.

We have had leaks of october white dwarf which hints toward later half release. YEs it's not 100% but it's lot more than "first week release".

But sure keep putting your head in the sand if you wish. As was proven already though no 1st week release. October has it, wait for it, FOUR saturdays. Release is unlikely to take 4 weeks. Remember new vehicles in speed freak box are unlikely to come in solo boxes to begin with. More likely between november-january(seeing december is rare one for kit releases). GW wants to sell as much of those for price of more than the two individually will be for after all.

Show me the WD leaks. Its one page isn't it?

Also its funny how you've waited until after the latest community article before responding....

"Orktober". Riiiiight.

Orktober is just a pun on October to show that Ork stuff is coming in October, and doesn’t necessarily mean the whole month is gonna be Ork stuff.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
The normal oder of operations is GW hinting some new rules, warlord traits, stratagems and relics for a week, then they announce whatever they were spoiling to be up for pre-order at the end of the week with all those spoilers.

There will be no pre-order announcement before the spoilers for codex have been shown.

No, it goes preorder announcement for the following Saturday, and then the week up to the Saturday is the stratagems etc being shown.

Thought it's also been the other way around too - a big push in the run up to first pre-orders, then more in depth looks afterwards. Depends if Orks are a regular codex release, or a larger GW event - I could see the latter, what with the boxed game coming out around the same time

 ImAGeek wrote:
Orktober is just a pun on October to show that Ork stuff is coming in October, and doesn’t necessarily mean the whole month is gonna be Ork stuff.

Whilst technically true (obviously) GW have had month spanning releases since anyone can remember. In fact, that has been the norm for most of their history. If they pronounce October to be ORKtober, people will assume the month is dedicated to Ork releases.

JSG wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Orktober is just a pun on October to show that Ork stuff is coming in October, and doesn’t necessarily mean the whole month is gonna be Ork stuff.

Whilst technically true (obviously) GW have had month spanning releases since anyone can remember. In fact, that has been the norm for most of their history. If they pronounce October to be ORKtober, people will assume the month is dedicated to Ork releases.

Not to mention their repeated proclamations that great things coming for Orks in "Orktober" when anyone suggested they were dissatisfied with the heinous wait. And the wait has been heinous, the edition is 18 months old and we're the last real codex to be released, effectively playing half a game for the duration while we have no stratagems or interesting traits to consider. Meanwhile completely new factions are released before we have a sniff of anything.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

JSG wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Orktober is just a pun on October to show that Ork stuff is coming in October, and doesn’t necessarily mean the whole month is gonna be Ork stuff.

Whilst technically true (obviously) GW have had month spanning releases since anyone can remember. In fact, that has been the norm for most of their history. If they pronounce October to be ORKtober, people will assume the month is dedicated to Ork releases.

Not to mention their repeated proclamations that great things coming for Orks in "Orktober" when anyone suggested they were dissatisfied with the heinous wait. And the wait has been heinous, the edition is 18 months old and we're the last real codex to be released, effectively playing half a game for the duration while we have no stratagems or interesting traits to consider. Meanwhile completely new factions are released before we have a sniff of anything.

I think 8th ed has made it clear that Genestealer cults are as real a faction as Tau were in 3rd, but hey. And there was updates in chapter approved.
Weekend after next is the first weekend in Orktober, sudden new starter set seems odd though - even with a warlock level character to add to the Eldar in Kill team. That's a few short lifespan for tooth and claw isn't it, unless we're now in the realms of multiple starter sets?

Tastyfish wrote:
I think 8th ed has made it clear that Genestealer cults are as real a faction as Tau were in 3rd, but hey. And there was updates in chapter approved.
Weekend after next is the first weekend in Orktober, sudden new starter set seems odd though - even with a warlock level character to add to the Eldar in Kill team. That's a few short lifespan for tooth and claw isn't it, unless we're now in the realms of multiple starter sets?

The chapter approved updates were garbage. So bad, in fact, that one of the stratagems has been made an army-wide, always on special rule. We had a warlord trait that was mathematically worse than a base one in the brb for almost every combination of warlord and a few minor points adjustments. Not exactly codex level material. Not even close.

Agreed on all aspects re lifespan of tooth and claw, its bizarrely short.

JSG wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Orktober is just a pun on October to show that Ork stuff is coming in October, and doesn’t necessarily mean the whole month is gonna be Ork stuff.

Whilst technically true (obviously) GW have had month spanning releases since anyone can remember. In fact, that has been the norm for most of their history. If they pronounce October to be ORKtober, people will assume the month is dedicated to Ork releases.

If they somehow miss an october release they have Noorkvember and Decidedtosquatorksvember to fall back on. Then drop the mother of all ork updates in January.

It is worth pointing out than when GW talk about dates, they are almost always talking about the preorder date. I remember looking forward to the promised April release of Ko a couple of years ago only for the first preorder date to be April 30th.
So for GW October starts with the October 6th preorder.
I still think that is when we will see Speed Freeks.
Though with the surprise addition of wake the dead, we may get Kill Team commanders on the 6th and Speed Freeks after that.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Tastyfish wrote:
I think 8th ed has made it clear that Genestealer cults are as real a faction as Tau were in 3rd, but hey. And there was updates in chapter approved.
Weekend after next is the first weekend in Orktober, sudden new starter set seems odd though - even with a warlock level character to add to the Eldar in Kill team. That's a few short lifespan for tooth and claw isn't it, unless we're now in the realms of multiple starter sets?

The chapter approved updates were garbage. So bad, in fact, that one of the stratagems has been made an army-wide, always on special rule. We had a warlord trait that was mathematically worse than a base one in the brb for almost every combination of warlord and a few minor points adjustments. Not exactly codex level material. Not even close.

Agreed on all aspects re lifespan of tooth and claw, its bizarrely short.

I don't disagree, just saying that new bad rules are still attention. The hand that buffs is the hand that nerfs...

Tastyfish wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Tastyfish wrote:
I think 8th ed has made it clear that Genestealer cults are as real a faction as Tau were in 3rd, but hey. And there was updates in chapter approved.
Weekend after next is the first weekend in Orktober, sudden new starter set seems odd though - even with a warlock level character to add to the Eldar in Kill team. That's a few short lifespan for tooth and claw isn't it, unless we're now in the realms of multiple starter sets?

The chapter approved updates were garbage. So bad, in fact, that one of the stratagems has been made an army-wide, always on special rule. We had a warlord trait that was mathematically worse than a base one in the brb for almost every combination of warlord and a few minor points adjustments. Not exactly codex level material. Not even close.

Agreed on all aspects re lifespan of tooth and claw, its bizarrely short.

I don't disagree, just saying that new bad rules are still attention. The hand that buffs is the hand that nerfs...

Its not so much about nerfs and buffs as it is about fun. The faction is not fun to play in its current incarnation. It is boring and one dimensional. Stratagems and shenanigans complete the game and index Orks lack both.

As I said originally, its like I'm playing only half the game that my opponent of another faction enjoys. Orks are one of the most popular xeno factions, we really shouldn't have had to wait this long for an update.

No doubt 9th ed or 8th 2.0 is right around the corner too...

 ImAGeek wrote:
Orktober is just a pun on October to show that Ork stuff is coming in October, and doesn’t necessarily mean the whole month is gonna be Ork stuff.

YEah. People are having unrealistic expectations over whole orktober thing. Setting themselves up for huge dissapointment. Then complain about GW screwing themselves up when they have only themselves to blame for making things up on their head which GW then didn't do exactly as they had come up in their head.

We get speed freaks and codex in this month. That's green enough october. Hell we already know this release is going to be bigger than most codex releases have been so let's be happy about this. Assuming whole month would be orks only would be silly.

My guess would be speed freak box comes out on 13th, codex on 20th and some models on 27th. Vehicles from speed freak box on their own separatedly. Hardly end of the world this way. If they go for more condenced speed freak on 20th and rest 27th. And frankly they might spread some model releases on november as it is. Term orktober could just refer to codex coming out this month. Not that all ork stuff comes this month.


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Tastyfish wrote:
I think 8th ed has made it clear that Genestealer cults are as real a faction as Tau were in 3rd, but hey. And there was updates in chapter approved.
Weekend after next is the first weekend in Orktober, sudden new starter set seems odd though - even with a warlock level character to add to the Eldar in Kill team. That's a few short lifespan for tooth and claw isn't it, unless we're now in the realms of multiple starter sets?

Except it's not starter set but more akin to what they did during 6th/7th ed with bunch of models for 2 factions with discount. Note it doesn't even have rulebook like THOSE had and GW didn't consider those as starter sets either.

Looks more like GW's new style of stealth discounts by giving big bundles of stuff at discount getting over "no price decreases" policies while getting people to invest more than they might otherwise by giving them units they might otherwise not get(casting plastic sprues is basically free for GW).

Chikout wrote:
It is worth pointing out than when GW talk about dates, they are almost always talking about the preorder date. I remember looking forward to the promised April release of Ko a couple of years ago only for the first preorder date to be April 30th.
So for GW October starts with the October 6th preorder.
I still think that is when we will see Speed Freeks.
Though with the surprise addition of wake the dead, we may get Kill Team commanders on the 6th and Speed Freeks after that.

You know I just can’t be bothered to get involved in all this petty arguing, but I was going to post this.

It’s pre order that is used, so 27th is likely to still be one, though people are gonna complain they are getting it November.


Also whenever it was mentioned releases used to take a whole month - I mean we used to also have things release in one go each month and not weekly right?

Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

Well the thing is that the stuff that is announced now, will be in customer hands on 6th Oct. Meaning the first possible slot for Ork stuff IN HAND is at 13th Oct. I still have sliver of hope that Speedfreeks will be out on the 13th and the Codex on the 20th. Any later and I have to abandon my hope of running Orks in our tournament. :( I have ~3000 points of Orks now and I've played 2 games with them. It's getting old.

Name wise it kinda makes sense to hold all the previews and stuff till Orktober. Yes it means Orks wont be in hand until mid month, but it fits with the month theme better.


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I'm sure Slaanuary won't be any different.

 Weazel wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

Well the thing is that the stuff that is announced now, will be in customer hands on 6th Oct. Meaning the first possible slot for Ork stuff IN HAND is at 13th Oct. I still have sliver of hope that Speedfreeks will be out on the 13th and the Codex on the 20th. Any later and I have to abandon my hope of running Orks in our tournament. :( I have ~3000 points of Orks now and I've played 2 games with them. It's getting old.

Seeing GW considers pre-order date for the date month they release funny that.

On the flip side this means last ork releases on october can come on november if 27th is also preorder orks. How weird that GW doesn't put orktober releases to preorder on september when it's preorder date GW considers for in which month model is released.

 Weazel wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

Well the thing is that the stuff that is announced now, will be in customer hands on 6th Oct. Meaning the first possible slot for Ork stuff IN HAND is at 13th Oct. I still have sliver of hope that Speedfreeks will be out on the 13th and the Codex on the 20th. Any later and I have to abandon my hope of running Orks in our tournament. :( I have ~3000 points of Orks now and I've played 2 games with them. It's getting old.

Hey, I want to play my orks too, and I'd rather have my codex sooner than later as well. I'm just sick of all this irrational complaining at every possible chance. I'm fairly sure that the ork codex will be announced in October, and probably released then as well.
I have zero sympathy for people already losing their mind because the codex is not released on October 1st. I'll be losing my gak with everyone else if it's not up for pre-order by October 31st.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Weazel wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

Well the thing is that the stuff that is announced now, will be in customer hands on 6th Oct. Meaning the first possible slot for Ork stuff IN HAND is at 13th Oct. I still have sliver of hope that Speedfreeks will be out on the 13th and the Codex on the 20th. Any later and I have to abandon my hope of running Orks in our tournament. :( I have ~3000 points of Orks now and I've played 2 games with them. It's getting old.

Hey, I want to play my orks too, and I'd rather have my codex sooner than later as well. I'm just sick of all this irrational complaining at every possible chance. I'm fairly sure that the ork codex will be announced in October, and probably released then as well.
I have zero sympathy for people already losing their mind because the codex is not released on October 1st. I'll be losing my gak with everyone else if it's not up for pre-order by October 31st.

Fair enough. I'm not raging, just mildly disappointed at this point. However if the eventual codex sucks bawls I'm going to rage quit 40k so hard, mark my words.

 Weazel wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 Weazel wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

Well the thing is that the stuff that is announced now, will be in customer hands on 6th Oct. Meaning the first possible slot for Ork stuff IN HAND is at 13th Oct. I still have sliver of hope that Speedfreeks will be out on the 13th and the Codex on the 20th. Any later and I have to abandon my hope of running Orks in our tournament. :( I have ~3000 points of Orks now and I've played 2 games with them. It's getting old.

Hey, I want to play my orks too, and I'd rather have my codex sooner than later as well. I'm just sick of all this irrational complaining at every possible chance. I'm fairly sure that the ork codex will be announced in October, and probably released then as well.
I have zero sympathy for people already losing their mind because the codex is not released on October 1st. I'll be losing my gak with everyone else if it's not up for pre-order by October 31st.

Fair enough. I'm not raging, just mildly disappointed at this point. However if the eventual codex sucks bawls I'm going to rage quit 40k so hard, mark my words.

I’m just waiting for the almost inevitable instances where the “September” FAQ somehow "invalidates or nerfs" Orks before they are even released – and then the explosion of anger afterwards, regardless of how small the impact might be.

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

I must've missed those 'GW hates Orks posts'. Care to quote them?

I don't think its odd people expected Orks to be the first thing released in what GW have defined is "Orktober". Particularly since we've already had previews for Speed Freeks.

Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

This Saturday's pre order releases October so not especially far fetched was it?!

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

It's not the pre order that counts, but rather the date of release for the sake of month validity, which means we got 3 weeks before the date that sets in nov. Now, if we lucky that leaves one week for speedfreeks, and two/one for the entirety of the ork release

JSG wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

Its how he is. He likes to take a feigned high road with things that make no sense.

You're correct in that its reasonable, expected even, that the first release in Orktober not being Orks is disappointing.

JSG wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm now reading all these comments in Mr. Torque's voice.

"ARE YOU STUPID?! I AM DISSAPOINTED BY THE FIRST SIX DAYS OF ORKTOBER NOT ACTUALLY RELEASING ALL THE ORK STUFF! ORKS DESERVE BETTER! IT IS COMPLETELY UNREASONABLE OF ME TO EXPECT ORK RELEASES TO BE ON ANY OF THE OTHER TWENTY-FIVE DAYS OF ORKTOBER! ALL DAYS BUT THE FIRST SIX ARE INFERIOR DAYS OF OCTOBER AND NOT WORTHY OF ORKS. YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAOW! *making sounds that sound like a guitar solo."

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

JSG wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

Its how he is. He likes to take a feigned high road with things that make no sense.

You're correct in that its reasonable, expected even, that the first release in Orktober not being Orks is disappointing.

I mean, only IF you falsely believed that Orks would be the first/only releases in october without any kind of logical basis for those beliefs besides "dur its orktober guys."
I don't recommend getting upset for people who are upset their baseless expectations haven't been met.
Until GW says the entire month belongs solely to orks, people need to calm down. It's plastic toy soldiers for crying out loud.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Oh boy, we're back to "GW hates orks" because we haven't had ork info on September 24th, which appears to be part of October now.

Abandon thread.

I must've missed those 'GW hates Orks posts'. Care to quote them?

I don't think its odd people expected Orks to be the first thing released in what GW have defined is "Orktober". Particularly since we've already had previews for Speed Freeks.

Yeah, I'm not arguing this with you again, we already came to a consent on this. You do your thing, and I'll just ignore you until we have actual ork stuff to talk about.

Okay, you guys enjoy huffing your own farts and I'll see you in a week or two.

Neronoxx wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

JSG wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

Its how he is. He likes to take a feigned high road with things that make no sense.

You're correct in that its reasonable, expected even, that the first release in Orktober not being Orks is disappointing.

I mean, only IF you falsely believed that Orks would be the first/only releases in october without any kind of logical basis for those beliefs besides "dur its orktober guys."
I don't recommend getting upset for people who are upset their baseless expectations haven't been met.
Until GW says the entire month belongs solely to orks, people need to calm down. It's plastic toy soldiers for crying out loud.

No logical basis except for GW naming the very month itself after Orks, repeatedly stating all over Facebook that 'the wait will soon be over because 'Orktober' is coming' and noting how Orks everywhere are pissed off because the wait has already been too long but they're going to make up for it, guess when, in October!!

Yep. Not logical for fans of the faction to think that at all. Its not like GW have repeatedly led everyone to believe such. /s

They're obviously going to be dragging us through the Orktober thing in the form of agonizing teasers and promos.

One thing I've learned with Orks and GW is just simply to accept that it's going to be a long, drawn out affair.

Ultimately I just want to see a creative and interesting codex instead of the uninspired and uninteresting book that was the 7th ed codex. The 4th codex was laugh out loud funny, inspiring and a great read with plenty of fluff and crunch. It's the product I'm looking for here. I've already been waiting for 6 years. If this book ends up the same as the last one, I'll be waiting for another 2 years at least for the next rehash.

I don't think there's any guarantee on the exact release date. But it's obvious that it's not next week, lol.

I love how ork players are just like orks.

In the abscence of an external enemy, they will enter a state of internal struggle and in-fighting until a new threat arises.

 Galas wrote:
I love how ork players are just like orks.

In the abscence of an external enemy, they will enter a state of internal struggle and in-fighting until a new threat arises.

Those sound like fightin wordz you uman panzie !!!

 Galas wrote:
I love how ork players are just like orks.

In the abscence of an external enemy, they will enter a state of internal struggle and in-fighting until a new threat arises.

You just described humanity. Or Pro Scub vs Anti-Scub

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

JSG wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

Its how he is. He likes to take a feigned high road with things that make no sense.

You're correct in that its reasonable, expected even, that the first release in Orktober not being Orks is disappointing.

I mean, only IF you falsely believed that Orks would be the first/only releases in october without any kind of logical basis for those beliefs besides "dur its orktober guys."
I don't recommend getting upset for people who are upset their baseless expectations haven't been met.
Until GW says the entire month belongs solely to orks, people need to calm down. It's plastic toy soldiers for crying out loud.

No logical basis except for GW naming the very month itself after Orks, repeatedly stating all over Facebook that 'the wait will soon be over because 'Orktober' is coming' and noting how Orks everywhere are pissed off because the wait has already been too long but they're going to make up for it, guess when, in October!!

Yep. Not logical for fans of the faction to think that at all. Its not like GW have repeatedly led everyone to believe such. /s

And tell me where the logical basis for the first week of orktober being an ork only release is? You can't, because there isn't anything but an assumption about what "orktober" means. The word/phrase is not defined.
The general consensus amongst rationally thinking folks is that 'orktober' means;
Ork products will be released during the month of october.

You think you know it means;
Ork products will be released every week because otherwise how dare they.

Now show me how I'm wrong without relying on further assumptions, emotional outbursts, insults or other ignorant/ignoble methods.
Protip; you can't, because I'm not. Take a chill pill. You'll get your green mad max analogs.

Neronoxx wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

JSG wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Yes it was odd. Especially as this saturday is not october. Funny that being after all 29.9.

Why are you pretending to be stupid? The first release of ORKtober doesn't include Orks. People are disappointed by this. It all seems pretty reasonable to me.

Its how he is. He likes to take a feigned high road with things that make no sense.

You're correct in that its reasonable, expected even, that the first release in Orktober not being Orks is disappointing.

I mean, only IF you falsely believed that Orks would be the first/only releases in october without any kind of logical basis for those beliefs besides "dur its orktober guys."
I don't recommend getting upset for people who are upset their baseless expectations haven't been met.
Until GW says the entire month belongs solely to orks, people need to calm down. It's plastic toy soldiers for crying out loud.

No logical basis except for GW naming the very month itself after Orks, repeatedly stating all over Facebook that 'the wait will soon be over because 'Orktober' is coming' and noting how Orks everywhere are pissed off because the wait has already been too long but they're going to make up for it, guess when, in October!!

Yep. Not logical for fans of the faction to think that at all. Its not like GW have repeatedly led everyone to believe such. /s

And tell me where the logical basis for the first week of orktober being an ork only release is? You can't, because there isn't anything but an assumption about what "orktober" means. The word/phrase is not defined.
The general consensus amongst rationally thinking folks is that 'orktober' means;
Ork products will be released during the month of october.

You think you know it means;
Ork products will be released every week because otherwise how dare they.

Now show me how I'm wrong without relying on further assumptions, emotional outbursts, insults or other ignorant/ignoble methods.
Protip; you can't, because I'm not. Take a chill pill. You'll get your green mad max analogs.

I told you - this is something GW have led myself and others to believe. Look on the Facebook page, there are a ton of pissed off Orks. Perhaps GW should learn from their slowed marketing disasters? Also I know full well GW don't have to release any Orks in October at all. If I'm not mistaken they haven't promised anything. It would be a foolish move though, from a business perspective as at least one customer of theirs leaves the hobby (and takes their wallet with them).

Its pretty stupid to build up a marketing spiel around, as you've stated, 'Ork products will be released during the month of October' and have the first release of October to not be an Ork product. If you can't see why that is not only poor, but stupid marketing I guess you can continue to enjoy that koolaid. I'm pretty sick of white knights defending every dumb thing GW does and blaming the customer for reacting negatively when GW heavily suggests its going to do something then fails to deliver.

Hey 2018 it's year of xenos according to 2017 end of year GW. Look at all the new xenos models from.the entire year!

Then look at the new imperium models during the year of the xenos.

Lol

:|

blaktoof wrote:
Hey 2018 it's year of xenos according to 2017 end of year GW. Look at all the new xenos models from.the entire year!

Then look at the new imperium models during the year of the xenos.

Lol

:|

If you can point to where GW said it would be ‘year of the Xenos’, sure. I’m 99% sure that is just something the community decided they’d said, and then got annoyed when it didn’t happen like they expected.

 ImAGeek wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
Hey 2018 it's year of xenos according to 2017 end of year GW. Look at all the new xenos models from.the entire year!

Then look at the new imperium models during the year of the xenos.

Lol

:|

If you can point to where GW said it would be ‘year of the Xenos’, sure. I’m 99% sure that is just something the community decided they’d said, and then got annoyed when it didn’t happen like they expected.

This is true.

'Orktober' is most definitely a GW marketing creation though, in this instance.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
Hey 2018 it's year of xenos according to 2017 end of year GW. Look at all the new xenos models from.the entire year!

Then look at the new imperium models during the year of the xenos.

Lol

:|

If you can point to where GW said it would be ‘year of the Xenos’, sure. I’m 99% sure that is just something the community decided they’d said, and then got annoyed when it didn’t happen like they expected.

This is true.

'Orktober' is most definitely a GW marketing creation though, in this instance.

Yes, but it’s literally just them saying the release is in October, with an orky pun. They’ve done similar puns before (januwaaaghry). It doesn’t mean the entire month is necessarily dedicated to Orks, and I don’t get why it means the first release of the month has to be Orks. They’re coming. This month. As they’ve said.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
Hey 2018 it's year of xenos according to 2017 end of year GW. Look at all the new xenos models from.the entire year!

Then look at the new imperium models during the year of the xenos.

Lol

:|

If you can point to where GW said it would be ‘year of the Xenos’, sure. I’m 99% sure that is just something the community decided they’d said, and then got annoyed when it didn’t happen like they expected.

This is true.

'Orktober' is most definitely a GW marketing creation though, in this instance.

Yes, but it’s literally just them saying the release is in October, with an orky pun. They’ve done similar puns before (januwaaaghry). It doesn’t mean the entire month is necessarily dedicated to Orks, and I don’t get why it means the first release of the month has to be Orks. They’re coming. This month. As they’ve said.

It doesn't HAVE to mean anything and obviously it didn't have to mean the first release was Orks because we now know it isn't.

As I said, its disappointing that we've waited this long, GW have acknowledged our irritation at the wait and responded by naming a month after the faction. They then went and released a box set for other factions as the first release of the month that was supposed to placate all those (rightly) irritated Ork players. Right after they've released another box set of Marines vs another xeno race. With new models for each.

I'll say the same thing I said to tneva, its my prerogative how I respond to the marketing of GW. For me, personally, this has been a massive feth up. I'm not telling you that you should feel the same so I'm not sure why so many of you are intent to tell me how to feel?

Summer of flyers!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Summer of flyers!

Ah yes, wasn't that fun

At this point, I'd like to ask folks to stop the back and forth bickering about what their expectations were for this month.

If there is no news on the upcoming ork releases, there's no reason to keep posting in this thread until there is. So, let's let it lie for a bit unless you're discussing news...

Thanks all!

I could have seen a post after the mod response ... about someone uncomfortable about the usage of the word orktober

Yes, there was, but I had to remove it since it was continuing the same OT tangent / argument above.

This thread is for discussing the news and rumors of the upcoming ork releases. If I really have to edit the title, I will, but I think we've covered the above enough so that I can hopefully leave it as is here...

Well I’m excited about the book!

As nice as the new models so far are (and I’m sure the ones still to come!) I don’t want to get anything but new rules.

I have too much of a tide of green already

Ok, that's it. We're going back to 4 to 6 year codex cycles.

What makes you say that?

Okay so i don't know if this has anything to do with the ork codex perse, but the recent GW weekender article revealed some of the KT commanders teams and box sets. Grukk was displayed as part of this. I'm thinking he ends up in the codex after all.

What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

tneva82 wrote:
What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

Which is good, because IIRC the only other option for warboss that GW sells is the Finecast "Combi-Scorcha/Unarmed with an Attack Squig" warboss model.

Not really looking forward to a world where one of the game's most iconic close combat HQs has no option for close combat weaponry because "lol no model no rulez! Were much too busy releasing the 1,542,567th primaris character with bolter and power sword to release a warboss in plastic."

the_scotsman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

Which is good, because IIRC the only other option for warboss that GW sells is the Finecast "Combi-Scorcha/Unarmed with an Attack Squig" warboss model.

Not really looking forward to a world where one of the game's most iconic close combat HQs has no option for close combat weaponry because "lol no model no rulez! Were much too busy releasing the 1,542,567th primaris character with bolter and power sword to release a warboss in plastic."

No kidding, and most of them are in the same weird sword pointed upwards pose too, like they were all born at the same time.

Also note that Grukk is not even called Grukk in the killteam addon.

Seems like someone at Nu-GW is wiping out as much of the 7th edition dataslate nonsense as possible.

 Jidmah wrote:
Also note that Grukk is not even called Grukk in the killteam addon.

Seems like someone at Nu-GW is wiping out as much of the 7th edition dataslate nonsense as possible.

Yeah from the preview with the various Commander models it looked something like Gitmob something or other

the_scotsman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

Which is good, because IIRC the only other option for warboss that GW sells is the Finecast "Combi-Scorcha/Unarmed with an Attack Squig" warboss model.

Not really looking forward to a world where one of the game's most iconic close combat HQs has no option for close combat weaponry because "lol no model no rulez! Were much too busy releasing the 1,542,567th primaris character with bolter and power sword to release a warboss in plastic."

They still sell the Big Choppa one (in metal!) as well, which makes me happy because my Big Choppa armed Snakebite warboss should still be playable.

the_scotsman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

Which is good, because IIRC the only other option for warboss that GW sells is the Finecast "Combi-Scorcha/Unarmed with an Attack Squig" warboss model.

Not really looking forward to a world where one of the game's most iconic close combat HQs has no option for close combat weaponry because "lol no model no rulez! Were much too busy releasing the 1,542,567th primaris character with bolter and power sword to release a warboss in plastic."

Ah they had those too. Without those if the Grukk would have been SC(pretty plain SC...) orks would literally have had no warboss whatsoever that isn't special character except possibly the trike one if it's warboss!

But yeah the Grukk is currently only warboss you can get outside GW mail order. Doubtful they would make him special character. Surely even GW wants to make sure all stores can at least have primary HQ from FLGS? Or would the orks be supposed to use weirdboys as their basic HQ

tneva82 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

Which is good, because IIRC the only other option for warboss that GW sells is the Finecast "Combi-Scorcha/Unarmed with an Attack Squig" warboss model.

Not really looking forward to a world where one of the game's most iconic close combat HQs has no option for close combat weaponry because "lol no model no rulez! Were much too busy releasing the 1,542,567th primaris character with bolter and power sword to release a warboss in plastic."

Ah they had those too. Without those if the Grukk would have been SC(pretty plain SC...) orks would literally have had no warboss whatsoever that isn't special character except possibly the trike one if it's warboss!

But yeah the Grukk is currently only warboss you can get outside GW mail order. Doubtful they would make him special character. Surely even GW wants to make sure all stores can at least have primary HQ from FLGS? Or would the orks be supposed to use weirdboys as their basic HQ

Probably Big Meks, seeing as there are two plastic versions of those.

tneva82 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
What that most likely means is generic warboss stays available as that is model sells as warboss

Which is good, because IIRC the only other option for warboss that GW sells is the Finecast "Combi-Scorcha/Unarmed with an Attack Squig" warboss model.

Not really looking forward to a world where one of the game's most iconic close combat HQs has no option for close combat weaponry because "lol no model no rulez! Were much too busy releasing the 1,542,567th primaris character with bolter and power sword to release a warboss in plastic."

Ah they had those too. Without those if the Grukk would have been SC(pretty plain SC...) orks would literally have had no warboss whatsoever that isn't special character except possibly the trike one if it's warboss!

But yeah the Grukk is currently only warboss you can get outside GW mail order. Doubtful they would make him special character. Surely even GW wants to make sure all stores can at least have primary HQ from FLGS? Or would the orks be supposed to use weirdboys as their basic HQ

Judging from the boxed sets orks get, the answer is "painboy".

"But, GW...the painboy isn't an HQ anymore, I know it's the only plastic one but you'll have to make anoth-"

"PAINBOY."

Dat kombi rokkit doe.

I'm very nope on kombi rokkits.

 TedNugent wrote:
Dat kombi rokkit doe.

I'm very nope on kombi rokkits.

One of the good things about that model is that the rokkits are very easy to remove or replace with a skorcha. I wouldn't drown in tears if Grukk remains the only plastic kit - before Grukk allmost all warbosses were the AOBR plastic warbosses, who didn't have gear or posing options either.

If grukk is going to be our “standard” warboss then I hope they repackage him into a solo kit instead of only in his boss mob.

Still really hoping for a new ghazzy model. The current one is smaller than Grukk, and Ghazzy is in mega armor!

 Billagio wrote:
If grukk is going to be our “standard” warboss then I hope they repackage him into a solo kit instead of only in his boss mob.

Still really hoping for a new ghazzy model. The current one is smaller than Grukk, and Ghazzy is in mega armor!

At the very least Grukk we know will be repackaged separately in a Kill Team Commanders expansion. Whether that is a good deal if you want just the model and not the Kill Team cards and tokens, remains to be seen.

I would say they have to do a new Ghaz model. But then Abaddon.....

Ever get the feeling we'll get "orktober" releases month's end and seen in November WD?...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/28/28th-sept-white-dwarf-preview-octobers-issuegw-homepage-post-4/

If this is the case I'll be quite frankly gutted. Due to migrate soon and that's leaving it late for release for me. First world problems ...

After looking at that WD preview, I feel sorry for you Ork players. Nice "orktober" GW. They didn't even put orks on the cover.

 beir wrote:
After looking at that WD preview, I feel sorry for you Ork players. Nice "orktober" GW. They didn't even put orks on the cover.

WD doesn't always showcase what the actual focus of the month is. Kill Team was a big driver for September, yet LOTR is on the cover of September's WD.

Doesn't look like we will see Orks for a bit yet. The warhound and the next two underworlds warbands are in white dwarf so we will probably see them on preorder on the 6th, with speed freeks on the 13th and the codex on the 20th.

rtb02 wrote:
Ever get the feeling we'll get "orktober" releases month's end and seen in November WD?...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/28/28th-sept-white-dwarf-preview-octobers-issuegw-homepage-post-4/

If this is the case I'll be quite frankly gutted. Due to migrate soon and that's leaving it late for release for me. First world problems ...

Well lack of orks in wd was already known meaning no orks first half. Something that was being said here but people kept pushing head into sand. Hate to say it but "told ya!".

Possibie gw didn't want wd leaks in september ruin release too soon. Also this way if orks take more than 2 weeks releases they can do full wd for orks rather than splitting into 2

Chikout wrote:
The warhound and the next two underworlds warbands are in white dwarf so we will probably see them on preorder on the 6th, with speed freeks on the 13th and the codex on the 20th.

Not Orks related (sorry! ), but do we have any pics on those warbands, by any chance? Haven't seen them so far.

Chikout wrote:
Doesn't look like we will see Orks for a bit yet. The warhound and the next two underworlds warbands are in white dwarf so we will probably see them on preorder on the 6th, with speed freeks on the 13th and the codex on the 20th.

:O :O

Where do you see the next 2 shadespire warbands?

Ninjed

No pics of the warbands yet. Just mentioned in the white dwarf article.

In the FAQ comments on facebook:

Warhammer 40,000 wrote: Ansen, my good fellow. Orktober is coming. We are not lying about that. We tend not to do that sort of thing. Now this FAQ is out there, Orktober is the next big thing on the Agenda!

 beir wrote:
After looking at that WD preview, I feel sorry for you Ork players. Nice "orktober" GW. They didn't even put orks on the cover.

Wolf players were shafted harder. It is us who should feel for you though this is a sorry looking "Ork"tober.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 beir wrote:
After looking at that WD preview, I feel sorry for you Ork players. Nice "orktober" GW. They didn't even put orks on the cover.

Wolf players were shafted harder. It is us who should feel for you though this is a sorry looking "Ork"tober.

Hey, there are still plenty of opportunities for Orks to get shafted, don't worry.

Herbington wrote:
In the FAQ comments on facebook:

Warhammer 40,000 wrote: Ansen, my good fellow. Orktober is coming. We are not lying about that. We tend not to do that sort of thing. Now this FAQ is out there, Orktober is the next big thing on the Agenda!

So, Codex on October 31st?

tneva82 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
Ever get the feeling we'll get "orktober" releases month's end and seen in November WD?...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/28/28th-sept-white-dwarf-preview-octobers-issuegw-homepage-post-4/

If this is the case I'll be quite frankly gutted. Due to migrate soon and that's leaving it late for release for me. First world problems ...

Well lack of orks in wd was already known meaning no orks first half. Something that was being said here but people kept pushing head into sand. Hate to say it but "told ya!".

2

It wasn't known from a double page leak. It was speculation. Confirmation essentially came today. Shove your crystal ball where the sun doesn't shine.

Well done for the told ya. Very magnanimous of you. Honest...

rtb02 wrote:

It wasn't known from a double page leak. It was speculation. Confirmation essentially came today. Shove your crystal ball where the sun doesn't shine.

Amen. Bragging over being on the right side of 50/50 speculation isn't something to be proud of. It's also poor form toward all the people checking this thread for genuine news.

 xttz wrote:

rtb02 wrote:

It wasn't known from a double page leak. It was speculation. Confirmation essentially came today. Shove your crystal ball where the sun doesn't shine.

Amen. Bragging over being on the right side of 50/50 speculation isn't something to be proud of. It's also poor form toward all the people checking this thread for genuine news.

Couldn't agree more.

Orktober... in november?

 jhnbrg wrote:
Orktober... in november?

I think this is just down to the weird way they do WD now. With it covering two weeks from two separate months. I suspect some Ork stuff will be up for preorder next week and they'll just have November WD dominated by the Ork release.

Going by their other releases, Orktober will start at 11:59pm on the 31st.

You get a showcase of some dude's modestly converted Ork army, isn't that plenty?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
You get a showcase of some dude's modestly converted Ork army, isn't that plenty?

It's a grot army.

last time they said "Orktober" it ended up "Novembork" instead.
Sooner the better but i am not expecting jack squat until november

 Vineheart01 wrote:
last time they said "Orktober" it ended up "Novembork" instead.
Sooner the better but i am not expecting jack squat until november

They both seem to follow Saltember for sure... :-/

13/20/27th will likely all be Ork related preorders.
(I won’t say the 6th as that would be in WD).

White Dwarf doesn’t mean anything on releases, many people have made the point on here about how magazines work, but there too many told you so’s and sarcastic ‘no Orktober’ comments for people to see the actual facts.

Just look at all other months what comes out and what’s in white dwarf.


I mean, it seems clear that they could do a whole issue packed with Ork stuff if they get the timing right, which I guess they are doing (next months WD we will see eh?), but it was never going to be the October WD, as it’s not how their magazine works. Doesn’t mean they aren’t releasing anything Orks.

I bet in the lead up we will get more community stuff on the Orks now too..

tbh I'm thinking we'll see a "next week" article containing Orks tomorrow. But we'll see.

JSG wrote:
tbh I'm thinking we'll see a "next week" article containing Orks tomorrow. But we'll see.

You would hope so.

GW have certainly said (in not so many words) they recognise that the Ork community's patience has long ran out.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
i am not expecting jack squat until november

Squats in November?

I think the whole "orktober" thing was a mistake. They just keep on teasing but never deliver.

However you spin it, they made a choice to not feature the alleged october Ork release in October WD.

Well, we might not get an actual release of Ork units until the middle of the month but I absolutely believe that we'll start seeing some previews in one form or another starting next week. It might be a slow drip of info, and in the grand scheme of things insignificant but I doubt that the first week of Orktober contains zero mentions of Orks.

At this point I don't mind being patient, it's the home stretch now and we'll have (at least most of) our units within the month

 lord_blackfang wrote:
However you spin it, they made a choice to not feature the alleged october Ork release in October WD.

but if the stuff had been in the October white dwarf it would have to come out in September, as pretty much all magazines including white dwarf run a month early

I wanted early month Orktober because my birthday is on the 12th :/ Speedfreakz would've been a nice present.

JSG wrote:
tbh I'm thinking we'll see a "next week" article containing Orks tomorrow. But we'll see.

I'm not. That's still part of october WD releases of which orks are. I'm expecting warhounds next week and then switch to orks. Warhounds are coming on week without orks as there's no orks in WD but there are warhounds. As warhounds didn't come to preorder THIS week it means they are NEXT week(you better hope or that push orks one MORE week ahead. But candinates for what's next week that's not orks or warhounds is pretty thin...).


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
However you spin it, they made a choice to not feature the alleged october Ork release in October WD.

That would require ork releases to be 1, max 2 weeks or have half the ork releases be in september....Or split ork releases for 2 WD.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
i am not expecting jack squat until november

Squats in November?

Reset the clock!

JSG wrote:
tbh I'm thinking we'll see a "next week" article containing Orks tomorrow. But we'll see.

I don't think so in the warhammer underworlds news thread there's a picture of a page from white dwarf previewing the moon clan grot warband. Them showing up in white dwarf means that they will be coming out early October so it will more likely be the 2 new warbands for night vault.

One of the gw Facebook pages says tonight's what's next should be us.

Fingers crossed

rtb02 wrote:
One of the gw Facebook pages says tonight's what's next should be us.

Fingers crossed

Orks won't be coming on preorder next week. They don't appear in WD. Until everything in WD has come out no orks. It's already abundantly clear orks start on last half of the october.

tneva82 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
One of the gw Facebook pages says tonight's what's next should be us.

Fingers crossed

Orks won't be coming on preorder next week. They don't appear in WD. Until everything in WD has come out no orks. It's already abundantly clear orks start on last half of the october.

We'll see crystal balls.

It's possible that it's the shadespire warband but they can be looted.

If it's something more exciting exciting I hope you're ready.

rtb02 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
One of the gw Facebook pages says tonight's what's next should be us.

Fingers crossed

Orks won't be coming on preorder next week. They don't appear in WD. Until everything in WD has come out no orks. It's already abundantly clear orks start on last half of the october.

We'll see crystal balls.

It's possible that it's the shadespire warband but they can be looted.

If it's something more exciting exciting I hope you're ready.

It's going to be warhound and/or shadespires. There's no orks. GW doesn't make their monthly release schedule particularly secret. Especially what's coming first half/second half. You are better off hoping for both shadespire teams and warhounds as those coming out are pre-requisite before which orks can come. So preorders it's:

6th: warhound+shadespire
13: speed freak(+codex)
20: (codex)

So either codex comes on 20th or 27th depending on is it released together with speed freak box or not. If next week is only shadespire teams or warhound but not both push numbers week later...

GW tells customers how their monthly release system works, customers go instantly "no it doesn't work like that! It works like I want it to work!"

We'll see later.

Unsure why a gw Facebook page would comment if it wasn't happening.

I hope they prove you wrong as I'm fed up with your arrogance on the pages. Not terribly endearing.

If they say it's happening I believe them over you. Only possible link would be gobbo shadespire band however, they're gobbos not orcs.

It's possible they'll do a dual release. Not the first time they've done it.

In the meantime, pipe down.

rtb02 wrote:
We'll see later.

Unsure why a gw Facebook page would comment if it wasn't happening.

I hope they prove you wrong as I'm fed up with your arrogance on the pages. Not terribly endearing.

If they say it's happening I believe them over you. Only possible link would be gobbo shadespire band however, they're gobbos not orcs.

It's possible they'll do a dual release. Not the first time they've done it.

In the meantime, pipe down.

Where did they say it?

 ImAGeek wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
We'll see later.

Unsure why a gw Facebook page would comment if it wasn't happening.

I hope they prove you wrong as I'm fed up with your arrogance on the pages. Not terribly endearing.

If they say it's happening I believe them over you. Only possible link would be gobbo shadespire band however, they're gobbos not orcs.

It's possible they'll do a dual release. Not the first time they've done it.

In the meantime, pipe down.

Where did they say it?

It was on a gw from Georgia USA. Can't remember which but saw it this morning.

And they said what? That ork codex is coming next week?-) Doubtfull. They put preorder notes on sunday evening.

But hey keep going with your negative attitude. You can only be dissapointed with that. With my positive attitude toward this release I can only be positively surprised. Win-win either way. That's the rule in life. It pays off to be positive rather than negative

let set the "hype" straight

what does "orktober" mean? we didn't make this term up, GW used it to hype us up for our releases.

when blue big spez mahreens were released, did they name a whole month after a unit or the faction? nope. when the puss evil mahreens got a sweet primarch and new stuff, did they get a month named after them? nope. when the month of the release of "yet another gold marine chapter" happend, was the month named after them? nope. as far as i know there has been no other release of codex or new army where GW cheekily named the month after that release.

when GW itself is going out on a limb to say "orktober", it definitely sounds like dedicating that month to the green menace. they didnt say "orkwinter", or orktober/orkvember",nope they said Orktober. tomorrow is the start of the month of the ork, and what have they announced? non ork related starter box, white dwarf preview with only one "non codex" ork article and other stuff that is very not green.

at this point it seems GW is trying to get us unhyped for the release.

trying to claim that we were hyped for nothing is ridiculous, their words had us expecting big things in orktober. if they wanted to release stuff at middle or end of october maybe they should've said "mid or late october". from what we see they have already broken their word.

and no tneva, not all of us are aware of how whitedwarfs are set up. i can speak for myself, i dont buy any whitedwarfs, mainly because i don't expect any ork article in them at all. but when you name a month "orktober" then i was expecting a whitedwarf preview that would reflect that. not all of us are gifted with your hindsight, some of us take GW for their word (especially me, since Ive haven't been on this forum for the last month to apparently hear your prophetic predictions of unscrutinizable wisdom, i was busy getting ready for a tournament).

Going to requote this.

 RiTides wrote:
At this point, I'd like to ask folks to stop the back and forth bickering about what their expectations were for this month.

If there is no news on the upcoming ork releases, there's no reason to keep posting in this thread until there is. So, let's let it lie for a bit unless you're discussing news...

Thanks all!

tneva82 wrote:

So either codex comes on 20th or 27th depending on is it released together with speed freak box or not. If next week is only shadespire teams or warhound but not both push numbers week later...

GW tells customers how their monthly release system works, customers go instantly "no it doesn't work like that! It works like I want it to work!"

I love your feigned certainty on the order of releases from something as simple as a WD preview. Have you seen the full WD? Are you certain there are no Orks in there at all? You were claiming that you knew their release schedule and full contents of the WD from something as miniscule as a 2 page leak so forgive me if I don't take everything you say seriously.

Please also point me to where 'GW tells customers how their monthly release system works', I have never seen GW post anything about this.


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Reds8n

Hi everyone

New to the forum, just wanna say Waaaghhh

Restarting on the hobby, been a while, about 15 years or so but a tabletop player do not age, they get better with age

Poped into a GW store today, bought some starter set for Ork 40k and tools, so wish me luck.
Had a quick word with the salesman and he did confirm that new Orks codex will be released some time October.

I am getting a little sick and tired of the general attitude shown in this thread and the constant ignoring of previous warnings.

This release has me all kinds of excited, especially Speed Freeks. I've been buying up third party Ork bits and bobs getting ready for a small skirmish sized band of Orks to duke it out Mad Max style with all the new buggies. Picturing a "Get da Wagon" scenario where it's one gang vs another as they speed across the desert, terrain moves while the vehicles stay somewhat stationary in the middle of the table or maneuver closer/further from each other based on some special set of rules....gotta test some stuff out.

Would also be good for some Gorka Morka bands too.

~iPaint

Looks like next week won't be Ork week either:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/30/next-week-warbands-and-warhounds/

Do we know much about the Speed Freaks game rules yet?

Indeed not, but there is always next week or the week after, we will see then. If we could keep the general smugness and lamentations of another week of no pre-orders to a minimum, that would be great.

If you really want to talk Orks, we've got a lively thread over HERE that's a much better place for a lot of the talk going on here right now, so we can reserve this thread for PROPER news and rumour discussion when they pop up.

Cheers!

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed not, but there is always next week or the week after, we will see then. If we could keep the general smugness and lamentations of another week of no pre-orders to a minimum, that would be great.

If you really want to talk Orks, we've got a lively thread over HERE that's a much better place for a lot of the talk going on here right now, so we can reserve this thread for PROPER news and rumour discussion when they pop up.

Cheers!

if i can ask, what is considered news for orks?
so far the discussion has been about the "news" that the orks are barely in the WD preview.
i only ask so that if i plan to report any more ork news in the future then it would be proper for this forum.

im genuinely confused what you consider ork news, so please help me understand what is accepted here so i can post in the future.

If you get info about a release date, pictures of models, news of kit options, info from the codex, stratagems etc.

Any of that, stuff we don’t know basically

Danny76 wrote:
If you get info about a release date, pictures of models, news of kit options, info from the codex, stratagems etc.

Any of that, stuff we don’t know basically

welp....then there is nothing to say. this thread will be dead until GW decides to grace us with anything new. since it seems discussions on news from the last 2 days is too old, we only discuss the future here, and nothing is worth talking about even if its only 24hrs old.

--sarcasm

Warhammer 40,000 on Facebook wrote:

It's Orktober, so it would be rude not to celebrate that fact with an Ork-themed painting challenge. This month, it's any Ork single model of your choice, but it must be on foot.

If you finish early and want to get ahead on next month's painting challenge, the category will be single Ork vehicles…

Some terms and conditions apply, you can check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/y9wlqf2u

Looking for some tips on photographing your models? We've got you covered: https://tinyurl.com/y9wufmo3

What are the prizes for these painting competitions? I couldn't find what they are.

From their Instagram, not sure if this has been posted before yet:

Has this been posted yet?

I dread to think what the reaction will be if Orktober proves to be a bit of a wet squig, GW are definitely ramping this up.

That's a great picture, gives us a good look at the terrain that comes in Speed Freeks that we saw from the sprue photos.

So, at this point have we seen 3/4 of the rumored buggy designs? We have the "squig wagon" yet to see right?

Ohhhh feth yes, that's the good stuff right there ladz.

Based on this:

Maximum prices?

Buggy £30?
Trike £30?
Speed freaks £80?
Codex and cards £35

£175 plus the other kit/ scenery?...

 Eiríkr wrote:
Has this been posted yet?

I dread to think what the reaction will be if Orktober proves to be a bit of a wet squig, GW are definitely ramping this up.

New bike bases? Are those boyz on 32mm bases?

that pic pretty much proves the buggies are trukk sized.
Or at least, very very close to trukk sized.

i smell some trukk conversions in my future....get a use out of those oodles of kits i have strewn around for bits lol

Boyz are definitely on 32mm bases and those bike bases are oval instead of just a straight rounded-corner base.

Are those the "standard" bikes, and presumably what we can expect in Speed Freeks? (as a new Ork enthusiast I'm among the minority who are warbikeless)

Have we seen this picture before?



Because there's something on the left that sure as heck looks like a much bigger Ghaz to me.

Coh Magnussen wrote:
Are those the "standard" bikes, and presumably what we can expect in Speed Freeks? (as a new Ork enthusiast I'm among the minority who are warbikeless)

Yeah, those are the same bike kit as always. Bases are new but pretty inevitable at this point; GW has decided that straight edges are for chumps, and that’s how it goes.

 Dulahan wrote:
Have we seen this picture before?

Spoiler:

Because there's something on the left that sure as heck looks like a much bigger Ghaz to me.

That picture and that Ghaz are both old.

 Dulahan wrote:
Have we seen this picture before?



Because there's something on the left that sure as heck looks like a much bigger Ghaz to me.

I feel like ive seen that before. What thing are you referring to? The thing behind Ghaz just looks like a deff dread to me.

Bike bases aren't new per se, they are 75mm oval bases used by several AoS models. The warbuggy and trike bases look like new sizes though.

Those Boyz do look like theyre on 32s. On the 25s their feet go over the bases a little bit.

At the very least I need to have nobz on 32s now, maybe not boyz. My darn waagh banner nob is probably my second least stable model ever (first least stable model is 100% my vostroyan flag bearer AKA Sir Chipsalot but he's up there)

Strange. The warboss on trike seems the be the very same model we’ve already in goff colours repainted with red bits.
Either that or they decided to paint the rest of the model the same and base it EXACTLY the same.

The boys in the buggy picture are on 32s I think, but the ones in the stompa pic are on the 25s. I think thats an old picture. I wonder if that confirms we arnt getting a new Ghazzy model or if its just a reused picture and theyre using until they reveal the codex

Ammo Pouch wrote:
Strange. The warboss on trike seems the be the very same model we’ve already in goff colours repainted with red bits.
Either that or they decided to paint the rest of the model the same and base it EXACTLY the same.

They probably don't glue it to the base and use the same base to model several variants?

 rollawaythestone wrote:

Ammo Pouch wrote:
Strange. The warboss on trike seems the be the very same model we’ve already in goff colours repainted with red bits.
Either that or they decided to paint the rest of the model the same and base it EXACTLY the same.

They probably don't glue it to the base and use the same base to model several variants?

A base that takes about 10 minutes to knock out, used on multiple models that took feth knows how many hours of eavy metal artists time... what planet are you on?

The red one might just be photoshopped to fit the speed freek theme.

In other news: WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! Orktober is here!

As much as I love 'em, I will not be basing buggies/trikes in my force. - Although I do worry we're just a short step away from basing everything. So, Rhino's, Landraiders, Monoliths and Baneblades watch out...!

I also have Nobz already on 32's, I could stretch to burna's and loota's, but da boyz will stay on 28's.

beast_gts wrote:

Warhammer 40,000 on Facebook wrote:

It's Orktober, so it would be rude not to celebrate that fact with an Ork-themed painting challenge. This month, it's any Ork single model of your choice, but it must be on foot.

If you finish early and want to get ahead on next month's painting challenge, the category will be single Ork vehicles…

Some terms and conditions apply, you can check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/y9wlqf2u

Looking for some tips on photographing your models? We've got you covered: https://tinyurl.com/y9wufmo3

Spoiler:

The fact that we get TWO months of Ork painting challenges (and that they mentioned them on October 1) makes me feel a lot better about GWs seeming lack of interest in our faction. Even though this may seem a small thing, it goes a long way in my book toward making me think they care about us.

OH BOY!!! Them bikes and trikes look gorgeous! Plenty of conversion options as well

 Dulahan wrote:
Have we seen this picture before?

Spoiler:

Because there's something on the left that sure as heck looks like a much bigger Ghaz to me.

That picture has been in the Escalation supplement in 6th edition - maybe even in earlier publications.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bob0sl-lvEZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=12dq9r4780zkd

Orks dont need wings to fly.

Only an ork would turn a jet engine into a car with treads.

Can I just give them my money already...

That’s one slick looking ride. Speedfreeks might actually be quite a good standalone game if you can use all these vehicle.

This thing better be absurdly quick! I love the model though, and this release in general. Us speed freeks players finally get our day in the sun! (at the very least model-wise)

Squig Trukk thing? Circled in blue.

Now that kit brings back memories of Deff Skwadron.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Squig Trukk thing? Circled in blue.

Hmm, looks like a battlewagon.

Screenshots, tweaked a little for detail:



Looks like twin big shootas on the left, rokkits on the wings, and some kinda heavy dakka cannon on the right.
Plus a whole bunch of go fasta! in the middle.

Some kind of Rokkit kannon on the left more likely, looks like they go into it.


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I really want to go ramming infantry and suck them into that turbine. I hope thats how it works.

Takes the term "crotch rocket" to a new level...

Oh man. I like that a lot. Looking like dual self loading missile launchers and a twin-linked big shoota as well.

This is awesome. It’s literally a dakkajet engine/fuselage with wheels

We assuming that a box of speed freaks, 2 buggy boxes and a trike box should cover it?...

Assuming that shokk Jump dragsta and kustom Boosta-blasta are in speed freaks and scrapjet, boomdakka Snazzwagon are separate?


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Addendum, they all look amazing!

If you look at the video and pause it right, the rocket on the twin shoota side has a flame trail and is being fired. 49 second mark.

Very well done video. What is up with GW this week?

Beautiful model. I don’t do Orks, but that is stunning.

I may need to have some adepts reverse engineer that for a dunecrawler or something.

rtb02 wrote:
We assuming that a box of speed freaks, 2 buggy boxes and a trike box should cover it?...

Assuming that shokk Jump dragsta and kustom Boosta-blasta are in speed freaks and scrapjet, boomdakka Snazzwagon are separate?


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Addendum, they all look amazing!

Two new vehicles come in the box, but there are more on the way close behind that can also be used in this game!

And 3 vehicles confirmed are out of the box (for the moment )

That is a fething terrific little teaser video
Kudos GW, that and the wartrike engineering redesigned one were top notch.

Man these new orc sculpts are awesome. I was saving my "new army" time for some sisters (because I love the celestine model) and I don't want to have to paint 300 orc boys but my god these orc vehicles are beautiful.

My plan was to put together a new army for BAO, adding sisters to my marines but if orcs look like they can be competitive sub 100 orc boyz I may be joining the WWWAAAAGGGG!!!

*Never mind, already posted.*

Well ‘Ard Orks and Slaaneshi Norks.

What a week!

Vrooom, Vroom (I'm not so good at jet noises so this will have to do), Vrooooom

That is superb, bravo Games Workshop, bravo.

Man, all we need now is for the new models to not suck on the tabletop!

oh my god that trakk is gorgeous!

TAKE MY MONEY GW!!

cropped.
looks like definitely a new model.
maybe this is the squig buggie
and with it looking like a normal vehicle that means the squigs are either in 2 spots
1-a back catapult that launches maybe bombsquigs (would be so sweet if they hit on 2s like they do for tankbustas)
2-are actually the wheels (we dont see the wheels of the buggy) or they are in a hamster wheel in the back for propulsion

If it launches squigs then maybe misses will let us set up a bomb squig like a biovore does with spore mines.


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It also might be that it's part of the rumored Mek Shop.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
If it launches squigs then maybe misses will let us set up a bomb squig like a biovore does with spore mines.


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It also might be that it's part of the rumored Mek Shop.

this might be it
(this pic is so full of spoilers)

edit-man, i might do what that fallout fan did with bottle caps, if i collect enough large teeth then maybe i can pay for my codex "da proppah way" (how many teeth you think it costs for a codex?)

Call me a spoilsport but I'm not too thrilled about this new model. That's the 5th "buggy", it's a few too many for my taste. I'd like koptas, infantry or Ghazghkhull before we get a 6th buggy-like vehicule...

Excellent video.

Beautiful Buggy.

GW doing what it needs to do to rekindle the hype that had died.

Buggy looks like it has an autoloading RL, a "standard" RL or perhaps single firing rokkits a twin dakkagun/big shoota and, as has already been stated, a fething big turbine.

I'm sure the turbine will have an effect in game.

The lore for this is obvious for me, given the contents of the video - Flyboy crashes plane, eventually rebuilds it to this level instead of or before he adds wings to make it into a plane.

Vindicates all those times I kept the pilot heads and used them for other models like Trukks

The turbine appears to have a spiral blade on the nose cone. If that doesn't have rules for shredding stuff, I'll be very dissapointed!

Ork batmobile

Reaaaaallly can't wait for any rules teasers for some of these buggies at this point.

Anyone got any idea why the wheels on the megatrakk scrapjet and the shokkjump dragsta are weirdly smooth? Goes against the normal GW style and I can't say I like them. I thought that maybe they were single-piece, but even then they could have horizontal treads.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Anyone got any idea why the wheels on the megatrakk scrapjet and the shokkjump dragsta are weirdly smooth? Goes against the normal GW style and I can't say I like them. I thought that maybe they were single-piece, but even then they could have horizontal treads.

Their designed after racing slicks.

 Grimskul wrote:
Reaaaaallly can't wait for any rules teasers for some of these buggies at this point.

Saaaaaaame, but they never tease points do they? Thats where the rub is usually imo. The teased stats might look good, but if its over costed it could still be junk

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Anyone got any idea why the wheels on the megatrakk scrapjet and the shokkjump dragsta are weirdly smooth? Goes against the normal GW style and I can't say I like them. I thought that maybe they were single-piece, but even then they could have horizontal treads.

The Meks that designed them were the oddest of odd Boyz? It's probably mostly to give us a different aesthetic, if you like the old school style you have options in spades but it's no harm to give us other variations. I like to make all my models as unique as possible and though I admit the change on the wheels was jarring at first I'm over it now and think it'll look good on the table with lots of other units.

 Grimskul wrote:
Reaaaaallly can't wait for any rules teasers for some of these buggies at this point.

Same. Really want to know the Wounds, Toughness and Save at least of the Buggies.

Are they Trukk-ish? Tougher? Weaker?!

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Anyone got any idea why the wheels on the megatrakk scrapjet and the shokkjump dragsta are weirdly smooth? Goes against the normal GW style and I can't say I like them. I thought that maybe they were single-piece, but even then they could have horizontal treads.

They're racing tyres with almost invisible tread. Take a look at the wheels on a Formula 1 car or a dragster.

 davou wrote:
Ork batmobile

Dakka dakka dakka dakka dakaa ORK ORK!

WHAM! - POW! - DAKKA! - SLAM!

Batork - the hero the Imperium doesn't need and doesn't deserve.

These vehicles are all beauuuuuutiful.

Looks like Speed freeks releases first,
followed by codex?


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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/02/2nd-orkt-revving-up-for-orktober-on-warhammer-communitygw-homepage-post-1/

cadrean wrote:
Looks like Speed freeks releases first,
followed by codex?


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refrerence:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/02/2nd-orkt-revving-up-for-orktober-on-warhammer-communitygw-homepage-post-1/

Yeah. Think they have hinted that before as well but also makes sense as speed freak and codex are both pretty big releases and GW wants to spread releases(especially big ones) over several weeks. Guess it's more profitable than having both on same week.

Gives you time to paint new vehicle or two before codex hits!

Thommy H wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Anyone got any idea why the wheels on the megatrakk scrapjet and the shokkjump dragsta are weirdly smooth? Goes against the normal GW style and I can't say I like them. I thought that maybe they were single-piece, but even then they could have horizontal treads.

They're racing tyres with almost invisible tread. Take a look at the wheels on a Formula 1 car or a dragster.

Yeah, but aren't they designed exclusively for high speed racing on pavement where traction and braking is crucial to prevent the drivers from killing themselves? Orks don't care for or need tires like that while off roading on discount Armageddon/Gorkamorka.

Cool models though, nitpicks aside. I love the turbine half-trakk.

I'm also not such a big fan of the slick tires, but it should be easy enough to add some treads to them.

I might try moving the slick tires from the Dragsta to the Scrapjet though. I'm imagining something being propelled along by jet propulsion and the tires are there mainly to keep it up off the ground.

geargutz wrote:

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

Spoiler:

If it launches squigs then maybe misses will let us set up a bomb squig like a biovore does with spore mines.


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It also might be that it's part of the rumored Mek Shop.

this might be it
(this pic is so full of spoilers)

Spoiler:

edit-man, i might do what that fallout fan did with bottle caps, if i collect enough large teeth then maybe i can pay for my codex "da proppah way" (how many teeth you think it costs for a codex?)

Good catch.

 zend wrote:

Thommy H wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Anyone got any idea why the wheels on the megatrakk scrapjet and the shokkjump dragsta are weirdly smooth? Goes against the normal GW style and I can't say I like them. I thought that maybe they were single-piece, but even then they could have horizontal treads.

They're racing tyres with almost invisible tread. Take a look at the wheels on a Formula 1 car or a dragster.

Yeah, but aren't they designed exclusively for high speed racing on pavement where traction and braking is crucial to prevent the drivers from killing themselves? Orks don't care for or need tires like that while off roading on discount Armageddon/Gorkamorka.

Cool models though, nitpicks aside. I love the turbine half-trakk.

Honestly, it sounds extremely Orky to me for them to choose a type of wheel thoroughly unsuited to the terrain they are driving on, simply so they can have the extra joy of careening around the place barely in control as the tyres struggle to gain traction on rough surfaces and in wet weather. Slicks may also actually be pretty good on ash wastes, if they are hard, compacted desert.

 Billagio wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Reaaaaallly can't wait for any rules teasers for some of these buggies at this point.

Saaaaaaame, but they never tease points do they? Thats where the rub is usually imo. The teased stats might look good, but if its over costed it could still be junk

Even just what their (undoubtedly new) weapons do or what the core rules differences between all these buggies would be great, though you're definitely right that points will make or break which ones see the most play on the tabletop, at least it'll bring us much needed variety after boyz over toyz index play for so long.

Same. Really want to know the Wounds, Toughness and Save at least of the Buggies.

Are they Trukk-ish? Tougher? Weaker?!

I feel like they'll always have to be somewhat lower in scale for wounds/toughness compared to Trukks, so depending on how they've made Trukks in the new book (ideally closer to our equivalent of a venom, since our current one is too pricey and infringes on the battlewagon's role) that'll determine how strong they are. I feel like they're at minimum 6 wounds though, with at least T5 and no damage table.

Probably T5 with 5-7 wounds i'd wager, 4+ armor.
Still weaker than a Trukk but atleast a Trukk has armor platings....uh...kinda

Oh I will bring them all and have a motley crew led by the warboss on trike.

nagash42 wrote:
Oh I will bring them all and have a motley crew led by the warboss on trike.

Same. All day. Regardless of how competitive they are. But then I'm biased.

In terms of stats I'm hoping for closer to the Trukk than what's been suggested above. These models look pretty detailed so will take a while to paint and they're pretty big. It'll also be a killer if we need like 12 of the Buggies at £30+ each to compete, like the Mek Guns people will just convert toys etc instead.

I'd imagine the new buggies are the same as the old ones, from a defensive point of view. Which I've found are actually..pretty durable..?

Like they die when most dedicated AT is pointed in their general direction but T5 is in a lot of cases the same as T7 and they're cheap enough to be spammed. I just hope the new buggies pack a much bigger puch (they seem to do just that) for a not much higher price tag.

 Haighus wrote:
The turbine appears to have a spiral blade on the nose cone. If that doesn't have rules for shredding stuff, I'll be very dissapointed!

Hopefully it will suck up guardsmen like a SAG sucking up snots.

 Nym wrote:
Call me a spoilsport but I'm not too thrilled about this new model. That's the 5th "buggy", it's a few too many for my taste. I'd like koptas, infantry or Ghazghkhull before we get a 6th buggy-like vehicule...

I'd love to see a proper tank, but for now the wide variety of vehicles is great to see. Agreed that I want to see a new ghaz, koptas, and plastic tank bustas and kommandos though.

I'd actually like to see trukks get closer to buggies in terms of stats, but with a massive price drop to go with it.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Nym wrote:
Call me a spoilsport but I'm not too thrilled about this new model. That's the 5th "buggy", it's a few too many for my taste. I'd like koptas, infantry or Ghazghkhull before we get a 6th buggy-like vehicule...

I'd love to see a proper tank, but for now the wide variety of vehicles is great to see. Agreed that I want to see a new ghaz, koptas, and plastic tank bustas and kommandos though.

A true ork tank in plastic would be great. I'll still be happy if all we get is the buggies they've been previewing. There's always room for more, but the buggies and trakks were the worst models in the range so I'm happy to see them updated first. Even the metal kopta, which is pretty bad, wasn't as bad as the buggies IMO.

If the Big Gunz are axed that will make me a little sad though.

What's this I hear about more terrain?

PiñaColada wrote:
I'd imagine the new buggies are the same as the old ones, from a defensive point of view. Which I've found are actually..pretty durable..?

Like they die when most dedicated AT is pointed in their general direction but T5 is in a lot of cases the same as T7 and they're cheap enough to be spammed. I just hope the new buggies pack a much bigger puch (they seem to do just that) for a not much higher price tag.

More wounds at least. Bigger model, more wounds is gw mantra

Btw one reason new ghazz is unlikely. If model would get size boost stats would be getting big boost which iirc rumours didn#t indicate.

So beyond the previewed triple buggy kit, the wartrak, And scramjet.... we also know from the community article we have an ork Mek shop terrain kit, the squig buggy and the ork scrap piles that are in all the new photos. Still have my fingers crossed for prima ghaz and some type of supaskorcha buggy.

tneva82 wrote:

cadrean wrote:
Looks like Speed freeks releases first,
followed by codex?


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refrerence:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/02/2nd-orkt-revving-up-for-orktober-on-warhammer-communitygw-homepage-post-1/

Yeah. Think they have hinted that before as well but also makes sense as speed freak and codex are both pretty big releases and GW wants to spread releases(especially big ones) over several weeks. Guess it's more profitable than having both on same week.

Gives you time to paint new vehicle or two before codex hits!

GW also don't like having one or two items in a single release. So unless they are releasing more of the kill team commander boxes then the codex will release along side the speed freaks box. I can see them releasing the codex at the same time as the speed freaks box so those that are fast at building and painting, will have rules to use their buggies in 40k game.

From the community post the codex covers six klans, so looks like freeboeters will not be a klan option.

Good, Badmoonz, Deathskullz, Snakebites, Evil Sunz, Blood Axe are already six.

I thought the community post said theyre just going to be covering the 6 clans background in articles during the month, not that there will be only 6 in the codex?

blaktoof wrote:
Good, Badmoonz, Deathskullz, Snakebites, Evil Sunz, Blood Axe are already six.

I presume your autocorrect changed "Goff" to "Good"?

It'll be a shame if Freebooters can't be a list unto itself, but I think that the main Klanz being represented with actual rules is a huge step forward. There was a long period where GW ran away from all forms of faction flavour (Chaos got hit, Eldar got hit, anything other than the main 6 Marine types got hit, even Guard got hit a little). I don't like 8th at all - the game is far too simplistic for my tastes, the vehicle rules are a complete joke, LOS/cover makes zero sense, and everything either gives a re-roll, a -1/+1 to hit/wound, or more damned Mortal fething Wounds - but I do like their approach to giving options, equipment, strategies and actual rules to all the various sub-factions that have existed in the game for a long time and even some that never got specific rules (like Tyranid Hive Fleets).

It brings more depth to a game that, IMO, sorely needs it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

It brings more depth to a game that, IMO, sorely needs it.

It also leads to pigeon holed unfluffy armies. Like now with evil suns no fast vehicles and instead huge infantry mobs and walkers, blood axes that ignore cover and snakebites that are all about vehicles

Snakebites are all about vehicles?

didn't we had leaked rules way back for all six clanz?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Snakebites are all about vehicles?

Yeah. FNP helps more the more wounds you have. Works okay also for 6-7 woundish but for example it's less efficient for W1 models than it's for W12 models. Guess which one is more likely to have 12 wounds than 1? Vehicle or infantry.

Ironically snakebites will be one of the best clan traits for stompas...For dreadnoughts and gorka/morkanauts it will be race between evil sunz(lol), blood axes(real sneaky!) or snakebites.

All artirelly will be bad moons(much like with IG gunlines infantry will be cadians and vehicles catachans. Seems GW thinks Cadia has no tanks), bikes etc will be predominantly blood axes, basic boyz blood axes or evil sunz. And no bad moon ever in ork history wields choppa&slugga it seems.

Generally all these clan/chapter/regiment/whatever leads to unfluffy armies and restricts player choice pigeonholing armies even more to same army builds. It's been seen for years through several editions already.

Assuming the leaks are accurate.

More importantly we can field clan lists and Detachments if we simply wish. Fluffy and unfluffy is a choice. I'll be running fluff regardless. Some won't. It's a choice.

Choice is a good thing and the fact it's returning is great!

It's nothing new this.

GW have been giving every faction some sort of unique rule and most factions (unless they are already a sub faction) have been getting sub faction rules. This has happened since the very first codex. It's so ingrained in the game that to play it without is boring. So nothing surprising there.

There have also been examples of it causing unfluffy lists for other factions too - the "Iyanden" trait suits mass Guardians more than Wraith constructs, Ulthwe suits vehicles more than mass Guardians and Biel Tan suits Guardians as much as, if not more than Aspect Warriors. This isn't a new thing either.

The biggest problem is when an army has access to one Klan rule that is just flat better than all others - House Raven, Alpha Legion, Raven Guard, Alaitoc and Stygies are all problems in this regard.

rtb02 wrote:
Assuming the leaks are accurate.

More importantly we can field clan lists and Detachments if we simply wish. Fluffy and unfluffy is a choice. I'll be running fluff regardless. Some won't. It's a choice.

Choice is a good thing and the fact it's returning is great!

Problem is GW actually removes choice. Completely stupid choices are no choices at all. I feel pity for bad moon players with sluggas and choppas. Okay technically you have a "choice". But there's choices and there's "choices".

Free rules never have been good idea. It's been shown since at least 4th edition. But they are good for selling models so GW keeps doing it and to hell with fluff and balance.

If these increase choices then why do they cause player armies to LOSE diversity?

But every army has always had free rules. "Army Special Rules", things like ATSKNF, have always been around.

In this image on the Warhammer community post, anyone else notice something about the Boyz base sizes? Looks suspiciously like 32mm (following on from the Killteam images)

/looks at his horde of Boyz, Stormboyz, Lootas and Burnas... sigh...

GW already said you don't have to rebase them and at a tourney it's the TOs choice.

Oh Thank Gork and Mork for that!

 ModernAngel wrote:
In this image on the Warhammer community post, anyone else notice something about the Boyz base sizes? Looks suspiciously like 32mm (following on from the Killteam images)

/looks at his horde of Boyz, Stormboyz, Lootas and Burnas... sigh...

Spoiler:

Yeah those are 32mm bases so likely boxes will get those in future. Good news is GW's official stance is and has always been no rebasing required.

Which means I sure am not going to rebase. Lots of work, would damage models and cost like over 200 euro's minimum...

I might take some temporary bases and blue tack and if some TFG is really have problem with models...Okay sure I put on those and then move each model sloooooowly one model at a time(hey you just prevented me from using my movement trays anyway...Eat the consequence) and finish game on turn 2.

Luckily tournaments and players here are generally sensible enough that shouldn't become an issue. I'm sure they are just happy facing orks that don't take ages to play(though frankly in my experience seems orks are one of the faster armies. Dark eldars for example tend to be lot slower)

I've built about half my Ork boys... I don't want to switch to 32mm now.

as far as the bases go, i wonder if anyone has considered getting 32mm washers or trace out and cut 32mm pieces out of plasticard (most for sale signs are that material), then just glue it onto the bottom.

does it look perfect? no (unless your basing incorporate the old base as a rock the boy is on). but it does keep you from re basing everyboy, you just add a little to the base.

if that is done then at that point the only thing to worry about is dealing with large bases and combat.

geargutz wrote:
as far as the bases go, i wonder if anyone has considered getting 32mm washers or trace out and cut 32mm pieces out of plasticard (most for sale signs are that material), then just glue it onto the bottom.

does it look perfect? no (unless your basing incorporate the old base as a rock the boy is on). but it does keep you from re basing everyboy, you just add a little to the base.

if that is done then at that point the only thing to worry about is dealing with large bases and combat.

That would require some serious rework for me to make it match to rest _and invalidate my huge pile of movement trays_. Seriously we are talking about hundreds of euro's worth of movement trays...Nope. Ain't going to do that. If somebody has issue with it...well then above is solution to that one.

32mm base does not fit to movement tray that has slots for 25mm bases. Nope. Just can't do. It's physically impossible. The cost of bases/washers/whatever is insignificant compared to the movement trays.

So no "dealing with large bases and combat" is NOT only thing to worry about

In this image on the Warhammer community post, anyone else notice something about the Boyz base sizes? Looks suspiciously like 32mm (following on from the Killteam images)

/looks at his horde of Boyz, Stormboyz, Lootas and Burnas... sigh...

Spoiler:

Boss riding a Squigg very centre of picture.....is a conversion?

 Ratius wrote:

In this image on the Warhammer community post, anyone else notice something about the Boyz base sizes? Looks suspiciously like 32mm (following on from the Killteam images)

/looks at his horde of Boyz, Stormboyz, Lootas and Burnas... sigh...

Spoiler:

Boss riding a Squigg very centre of picture.....is a conversion?

Is the normal plastic Warboss.

This chap:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Ratius wrote:

In this image on the Warhammer community post, anyone else notice something about the Boyz base sizes? Looks suspiciously like 32mm (following on from the Killteam images)

/looks at his horde of Boyz, Stormboyz, Lootas and Burnas... sigh...

Spoiler:

Boss riding a Squigg very centre of picture.....is a conversion?

Is the normal plastic Warboss.

Yeah. Angle is bad but boss does NOT ride the squig. Squig is in front of him, not under.

Squig might be just a weeeee bit unstable to ride to a battle

tneva82 wrote:
Yeah. FNP helps more the more wounds you have. Works okay also for 6-7 woundish but for example it's less efficient for W1 models than it's for W12 models.

Can you explain how that works? Because my instinct is that it gives you exactly the same boost no matter what your wounds. You get 1/6 more survivable, whether it's a 1/6 chance of not dying from the first shot or a 1/6 reduction in the number of wounds you take.

The only complication I can see is that some weapons might do more wounds than are needed to kill a model and soaking some of them doesn't help. But people will rarely fire high-damage weapons at 1 wound models if they have a choice and if they do, I think the trait is still helping by making your opponent use sub-optimal weapons.