Inquisitor S. wrote:
And another question for A. J.:

I give you my word as a freelance artist and business man. (-Aj)

What's your business? Where's your business?

"Exiled Miniatures"

http://exiledminiatures.blogspot.com/

He has less then 20 posts, its not hard to look through them.

Inquisitor S. wrote:So I have some questions, A J.:

- Why are you doing the moderator job on RF's Facebook page?
- Are you being paid to be a moderator?
- Do you get recomenpsation for your work such as models or bits?
- What's your connection to "Kim"?
- Do you know "Kim" face to face?
- Have you met Daniel Mandelbaum in person?
- Have you met Jason Martin in person?

I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.

tiger g wrote:Not sure of the business model. They are selling forge world bits. They are not an authorized dealer. (to my knowledge no one is an authorized forge world dealer in the US). If they were they could not sell out of country and selling bits of a GW product is not allowed by GW (I know Forgeworld is a separate company but they have the same problem with forged bits and the same rules).

So she has $8000 of bits at the same cost we paid, To get a decent profit margin she has to up the cost. (also every bit will not be sold as not all are unusual).

She has to go through the time to register (this costs no money and takes 30 minutes online - done it for 30 states in the last 2 years).

Now has a moderator for face book so additional expense or time not compensated.

Need to pay those for the conversions and have a mark up.

All work is manual and time comsuming.

Not sure this is the best model to make any money unless they come out with their on line of goodies (should read the final results of the last lawsuit to understand what they can and cannot do.)

Good luck in overcoming the above and previous bad press. Would be interested in seeing the business plan.

It's a tough business especially in current times. But as far as I know part of the plan is to expand the selection of what the store carries including adding hobby supplies and other product.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Hey guys I just want to chime into this firestorm.

My names Aj Thornton and yes I am the new page manager of the resin forge Facebook page. I was a customer before and never had an issue with any orders.
I understand sometimes things happen in business and bad practice can leave a bitter taste, but I assure you that any problem will be dealt with.

As for my Facebook page, I've had the same account since 2006 when I was a freshman in high school back in 2006. Yes the name is inappropriate but Facebook will not allow me to change it and I'm not going to lose the memories and friends I have on Facebook because of that. I only linked my profile in my post to introduce myself, show that I am a real person (as in not dm) and to provide a way for people to contact me in regards to the Facebook page. I have no personal connection to any of the previous owners of resin forge and therefore have no reason to have them on my friends list.

Whether or not you like Daniel he has left the business. IF you do not trust Kim to follow through with her promises and to fullfill orders then do not order, but the insults and hatred are not necessary.
If you personally were ripped off by Daniel or resin forge, there is a hotline number that can be called. If you still are unsatisfied with the resolution, contact us and we will do whatever we can to work it out with you.
All of these claims take time away from providing a great customer experience and that is why I offered to help Kim out. I have worked retail since I was 16 and been a commission painter on the slider since I was 14. I am here to manage content and Facebook and help with any issues that I can.
I apologise for any misspelling in this post. I am posting from a cracked iPod screen. I will run a spellcheck from my pc later.

I wish you all well, happy modeling!
Aj

Hi, AJ. Two questions for you...

1) Have you ever met Kim in person?
2) Are you familiar with the "history" between her and Daniel? I put "history" in quotes, because I don't believe it's history.

Eric

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
And another question for A. J.:

I give you my word as a freelance artist and business man. (-Aj)

What's your business? Where's your business?

"Exiled Miniatures"

http://exiledminiatures.blogspot.com/

He has less then 20 posts, its not hard to look through them.

I also keep WIP blogs in forums like CMoN, Bolter andchainsword, and international brotherhood of hobbyist using William T. (Middle name last initial) master chaplain astador (my original forum alias from 2003) and exiled miniatures.

AJ I don't know you from Adam, if you want to keep your good name that you have been building get out of this situation. This is all part of the normal scheme that is run by this individual. They con a well meaning third party into being a part of this and they take the hit along with the company when it gets dumped. This has happened before and it will happen again.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

Inquisitor S. wrote:So I have some questions, A J.:

- Why are you doing the moderator job on RF's Facebook page?
- Are you being paid to be a moderator?
- Do you get recomenpsation for your work such as models or bits?
- What's your connection to "Kim"?
- Do you know "Kim" face to face?
- Have you met Daniel Mandelbaum in person?
- Have you met Jason Martin in person?

I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.

Sorry, you have mug written all over you. We've seen this before, people sucked in to act as a go-between or independent party that will be hit by all the splatter when it goes west.

You don't *know* these people at all. How do you know that you didn't speak to Daniel when you thought you spoke to Jason? No one knows where they stand with these people and he's known to use many identities. You're putting yourself at risk, ask other people who have tried to be helpful to sort out Daniel's schemes. They all get burned. Don't accept gifts or incentives from them ('compensation'), don't get involved.

As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.

Oh, it is of a lot of interest if somebody has financial interest in the "company" (never any business registration proven). Is Exiledminiatures connected to Resin Forge businesswise?


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@A. J.: go to Facebook. Talk to "The Hairy Painter" (also a commission painter). Listen to what he has to say about this.

Or if not, then not. But no complaints afterwards if you are suddenly in as collateral damage because DM or whoever is there decides to use you as a meatshield. If you want to play mediator, go ahead, but don't get dragged in with his special offers if you send him customers (going rate he offered was 20% off last time). Do what you want, but don't attach your business to his if you value your reputation, enough people around who can sing a song about that.

I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.

I take you mean 'in general' here, as all the conversions were done by one Mr D.Mandelbaum.

Be a bit difficult to get more of the conversion work you claim to be a fan of considering 'Daniel' has left the building....

And BTW - when grammar, syntax, and general posting demeanour are taken into account, Jason is Daniel, Daniel is Matthew and all three appear to be KimSteph (apart from the voice who may or may not be DanJasMatts ex-girlfriend).

Also - many of the abusive and defensive posts, not to mention the down right whacko phone calls were from KimSteph - the very same person who is now attempting to appear like the sane one of the three stooges....

I'd tread VERY carefully if I were you AJ - they have a tendency to take the innocent down with them when they fall.


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(I'm starting to think keeping track of MandleBonder requires complex Venn diagrams reading back part of my post)

I like how all of my posts are being ignored by AJ.

Also, you live a stones throw from Dallas, so why would RF take you on officially without bothering to go meet you.

I'd be interested in speaking with you though. Kim has my contact info, I'm in the office until 2pm PDT M-F.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.

If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.

If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?

Same way the lawyer 'approached' resin forge, which then 'scammed' them when they (lol) paid him via paypal.

Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.

AJ, mind unbanning everyone from the RF site?

I highly doubt I'll get unbanned.

Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.

You asked when about what precisely?

Sorry for my delayed responses guys, I'm still at work for the day and getting slammed. Ill reply to everyone I can as soon a so can.
Awrethan: I'm sorry you feel I'm ignoring your posts, I feel most the answers were covered in my responses to other questions. If you shoot me a pm with your contact info we can arrange a time to talk or we can discuss in pm.

 MajorTom11 wrote:


Want to start taking a bit of responsibility and make it harder to cast doubts (which is extremely easy when you just say 'now I'm this person and I'm gonna do X,Y,Z so that's proof and anyone attacking us is a hater'. That's not proof, that's a statement from someone not to be trusted in the first place. You'll have to do better.

You can start with:

- Providing your business registration number
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence.
- Providing the previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever.

That will help.

As a suggestion, acknowledging that Mandelbaum indeed has a terrible history and addressing the disgusting track-history he had with the community, the aliases, the lies, the deadbeat service, all of it. As long as you pretend like that is made up, or that it is somehow up for debate, you will never, ever, ever be free from guilt by association. He is one of the absolute worst the community has ever known, we will never forget.

So long as you keep dodging over and over and over again instead of addressing the business # (both past and present) and the HH weekender, you are starting the race already having lost.

AJ, you are ignoring offering any concrete evidence and are simply spitting out platitudes. You want to do the community a favor? Read the threads referenced in the first post of this very thread and realize you are one of many in a long line of 'ablative white knights'. How do I know? I was one of them. So were a few other fair minded people who gave the benefit of the doubt to a compulsive liar. Their names are referenced in that post.

If you continue to post here, I highly suggest you start actually giving out some info that we have asked for relentlessly since this began or just finally admit that RF doesn't have it because it doesn't exist. I'll remind you again -

- Providing RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around.
- Providing the supposed previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.

Keep showing up here and keep being hammered for these items. Think to yourself though, it's pretty straightforward stuff. You can probably figure out 16 different ways yourself of how they could offer evidence that they went to the HH weekender. If you are interested in doing things the right way and live in texas you know they need that business number, and it is there for customers use, so why hide it for months constantly waffling?

If you read what they wrote on their FB page, I am sure you came away with the impression we are monsters on a witch hunt here at Dakka. Mandelbaum (the gentleman who's conversions you love so much) is an expert deceiver and spin artist. Take an evening and review the case history. I beg of you. See if you still feel so sure everything is on the up and up after that.

And I remind you, and all others, RF has not been accused of chronic fraud or not delivering, though there have been hiccups and questionable activity such as casting other peoples knight titans for sale, or at least trying to. So far, they did ok and on performance to date as RF they don't deserve any huge attention. That is if you disregard insane facebook posting and phone harrassment anyways. The issue is RF is not just RF, but another company in a long line of Mandelbaum ventures, and in all his previous ventures, he screwed people over after a 6 month to a year period of reputably doing business. So, if you bother to understand the history here (absolutely corroborated and backed up by evidence history), you would not need to point out that RF has not messed up badly to us as if that is the end of the argument. It's not. It's the scary part.

Review. Look at everything. Do the right thing. And stop dodging the main questions quoted above please.

 Art Steventon wrote:
Tiger G - Forge World already confirmed that RF / Daniel MandleBonder were customers of FW and nothing more.
Forge World do not, have have never, authorised any other body outside of GW to sell their product in any form of 'official' manner.

If a Forge World staff member, who can't spell his companies name in the official sig, confirms in an email that several private persons (most of which can't spell their own name) together form a decent company, then something is odd. Esp. when said decent company confirms plan to get legal in the future after many many years of business.

If Daniel's girlfriend pays Daniel to leave Daniel's company, something is odd as well.

If a Forge World staff member, who can't spell his companies name in the official sig, confirms in an email that several private persons (most of which can't spell their own name) together form a decent company, then something is odd. Esp. when said decent company confirms plan to get legal in the future after many many years of business.

If Daniel's girlfriend pays Daniel to leave Daniel's company, something is odd as well.

This suddenly reminded me that there is still this BIG support show of Forge World for Resin Forge that we were promised. Where is that? Should be about time now, no?

Plus:

confirms in an email that several private persons (most of which can't spell their own name) together form a decent company

He never wrote "company". He wrote "group". Which of course immediately brought us to the question: how the feth would a FW person know which persons belong to a group

 Art Steventon wrote:
Tiger G - Forge World already confirmed that RF / Daniel MandleBonder were customers of FW and nothing more.

Forge World do not, have have never, authorised any other body outside of GW to sell their product in any form of 'official' manner.

What is your point as a business they have a high cost which effects their profit margins. I am asking what is the business plan? They can never sell gw main products and need volume to make any money. I never said they were selling illegally.


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Adding hobby supplies will not make enough money as everyone else is doing it. Will need funding for inventory and they cannot afford to set up the simple filing for doing business in texas

His point was that RF is not in any way shape or form affiliated with FW. They buy from them, just like any of the rest of us. At times they had alluded to having a much deeper (and impossible) relationship. He is also pointing out that the FW letter had some weirdness in it. I.e RF presented the letter as if it was ironclad and official proof they aren't recasters, which is not something this forum has been pre-occupied with anyways.

It was just smokescreening to try to distract from the real questions we are and have always been interested in, namely -

- Providing RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around.
- Providing the supposed previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.

You guys know that in a few days there could well be a post on RF's wall saying 'I tried to engage dakka and showed them proof but they just attacked me and kept hounding me for more and more', to which the regular posters there will go 'Oh no that wretched place, you poor thing, at least you tried to give them evidence, it's up to them that they ignored it' and cheer their hero.

As has happened every other time someone has shown up here posting in favour of RF, despite never actually providing any answers to the questions we actually need answered;

- Providing RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around.
- Providing the supposed previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.

As opposed to the questions we never really needed answered (or even asked);

-how much stock do you have and can you provide us with pictures
-are you recasters
-have you committed fraud as RF

This is almost silly at this point, they won't own up and provide registration of any kind, and when they eventually fold those who supported them will be hurt and left to the wolves while he starts his next company. Have people tried emailing the relevant authorities re: no business registration et al? I considered it but felt that an Australian email will have little relevance to them.

Agreed as they buy from forgeworld like us they can display pictures of their product. (not sure what legal right gw had to request pictures be removed from their website as they have no legal agreement)

At this point, I almost feel it would be better for RF to somehow quietly admit that they were recasters; then, any reference to them on Dakka would quickly be stamped out. :p

 Dawnbringer wrote:
At this point, I almost feel it would be better for RF to somehow quietly admit that they were recasters; then, any reference to them on Dakka would quickly be stamped out. :p

Nope, no one here thinks they are currently recasting, drop it.

I think there are enough reasons to have Dakka on the RF case without having to make them up and commit libel in the process.

Exactly. Let's just stick to the issues we know about for sure.

So AJ? Still waiting sir -

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

I quite like AJ's work on the Exiled Minitures blog - some very nice painting there (nice face painting tutorial!).

I sincerely hope that this doesn't blow up in his face as it did to The Hairy Painter & Eye of Error/Lucky No.5 in the past.

I must admit that if I am any example of the standard hobby enthusiast I can't see how many people would feel comfortable ordering from RF.

This is also coming from someone who found out about this from RF's rants first (on their facebook while searching for FW parts).

Yup, if AJ is indeed who he claims to be which I am inclined to believe he is (sorry AJ, you have to understand believing anyone is who they say they are when Mandelbaum is involved is extremely sketchy at best) then he is the latest in a long list of people with good morals trying to smooth out a mess for someone they believe is being unfairly accused.

I was one of em during the Lord.Serpius Persona and dealt with Daniel in good faith while he was pretending to be Susan Bisley... while still pretending to be Matt Bonder on top of it lol. It was only the revelation that Bisley had a son and the line-up of other facts that ultimately finally revealed this cowards real name.

Think about it AJ, this guy has spend years and years pretending to be near on a dozen other people... is that normal behavior for someone acting in good faith and with honesty, intending to be responsible to their clients? Hell no. Not to mention hiding and not answering with clients while taking new orders, then claiming he, his wife or his fictional daughter had cancer and that is why he couldn't live up to his obligations... then ultimately just disappearing and getting away with it due to the layers of aliases.

Don't take my word for it. Take his. Read his own words where he screws himself up losing track of his lies at various times. Listen to the harrasing voicemails left over the years as various identities all in his voice from his Dad's number. You don't need me, or anyone else, you just need a bit of your own time and an ounce of faith that maybe we are telling the truth about this and we are genuinely worried about you getting involved here for your own sake.

You can believe me or not, it's up to you. The evidence is there, any sane person would certainly be alarmed at the least upon reading it, and the Mandelbaum hallmarks are all over this, even now.

This isn't a game. It's not retail. You have put your good name on a PR nightmare the scope of which I don't think you fully grasp. Don't underestimate who you are dealing with, nor the potential heartache you will undergo down the line. Invest a few hours in yourself, and review the evidence here and all over the community.

If you do persist in working with RF though -

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.

I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.

Eric

Unless he Is in fact another cleverly crafted Mandelbonder alias.

 MagickalMemories wrote:

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.

I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.

Eric

Sorry Eric, but I disagree. First, those questions are not just for AJ, it is important to repeat them over and over just to prove the point of how evasive RF really is. That, and to make it crystal clear to even a casual reader that when RF starts throwing hissy fits that we are calling them re-casters etc, it just isn't so. Second, If AJ himself as an RF 'insider' cannot get a straight answer regarding these very straightforward and simple questions, then that should help encourage him to look into it more.

The fact is, RF should have those business numbers if they are operating legally. The whole point of having those numbers is so customers and the public can identify them as a legally operating entity. It should not be 'private information' to disclose who owns the business and where it runs from. If they are legit, what was there to worry about? They were hiding that info even before Mandelbaum was outed and have failed to produce it since. They HAVE to have one, so either they are either operating illegally or for some crazy reason witholding information that would go a long way towards making them a more trustworthy site. That's the whole point of the #. So, we need 2 #'s, the first with all three names on it which StephaKim said was the case, and the 2nd with just her name on it, and we can then verify the dates were legit on the govt side.

That would be huge for them, it can't be understated. It means that they would be accountable legally and easily for any issues, unlike previous businesses Mandelbaum has run under aliases and without the legal items needed. Huge. Cannot be understated. To their benefit on top of it! I am so sure they don't have those numbers that I am offering really solid advice to someone I would rather see never sell another bit or model in this community again because it doesn't even matter lol, shady is as shady does. He doesn't want to get a number because he doesn't ever want to be accountable to the law. I wouldn't either if I was him.

Finally the HH weekender is something they trumpeted so loud and so frequently on their own FB page that it is perhaps the most relavant and 'can't get out of it' lie they told in regards to the loyalty of those they have fooled into believing them. They can't admit they didn't go because it would reveal a huge lie to their audience and call into question all the other promises of goods and advance orders (money taken with no guarantee of an advance order). They can't let their audience know they would create a lie that big and elaborate, especially when there was no real need to do it, no one forced him into that position, he just made a cashgrab and in true Mandelbaum fashion layered lie upon lie until he had a completely unfeasible story, now he just wants everyone to forget what he said and did.

No sir, definitely, those questions need to be hammered home, over and over, for anyone reading this thread, because the answers will either exonnerate them and relieve the community that they are at least dealing with an accountable business, even if they have a very dirty past, and also show they kept their word on one of their biggest promises. Or, the answers will show this is just another giant lie for the sake of lying Daniel Mandelbaum clusterfeth and they should steer clear at all costs as he is running an illegal business and still lying as often as you and I draw breath.

Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.

Aerethan wrote:I like how all of my posts are being ignored by AJ.

Also, you live a stones throw from Dallas, so why would RF take you on officially without bothering to go meet you.

I'd be interested in speaking with you though. Kim has my contact info, I'm in the office until 2pm PDT M-F.

Again, sorry about that. And the reason for not meeting up with them is due to scheduling conflicts with me. I work long hours and usually just want to go home to spend time with the lady.

Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.

If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?

As a fan and a client, I offered to help manage the facebook page. I knew this also meant I needed to post here before being accused of being another DM imposter.

My painting service has no ties to Resin Forge and I am not someone who pushes my clients to order from them. I encourage all people to buy from who they like but with pieces such as FW for full kits I recommend direct from FW as the issue with miscasts deems to high, but for individual bits, I shop best price before placing orders some times that's from Resin Forge, sometimes it's eBay or another vendor.

Negator80 wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.

If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?

Same way the lawyer 'approached' resin forge, which then 'scammed' them when they (lol) paid him via paypal.

Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.

AJ, mind unbanning everyone from the RF site?

I can see what I can do, but I'd still have to have Kim's permission. I am sure that if we can all come to an agreement and keep flaming and direct insults/offensive content off the page it would not be a problem. I will look into the situations and try to resolve each. If you'd like to discuss it, please PM me.

motyak wrote:You guys know that in a few days there could well be a post on RF's wall saying 'I tried to engage dakka and showed them proof but they just attacked me and kept hounding me for more and more', to which the regular posters there will go 'Oh no that wretched place, you poor thing, at least you tried to give them evidence, it's up to them that they ignored it' and cheer their hero.

As has happened every other time someone has shown up here posting in favour of RF, despite never actually providing any answers to the questions we actually need answered;

This is almost silly at this point, they won't own up and provide registration of any kind, and when they eventually fold those who supported them will be hurt and left to the wolves while he starts his next company. Have people tried emailing the relevant authorities re: no business registration et al? I considered it but felt that an Australian email will have little relevance to them.

I'm sure this post has come up in the past, but I can assure you that it won't be up there again. I do not believe in that kind of play for sympathy. I do agree that there are questions that need to be answered. If I had 100% of the answers I would happily relay them to all of you, but since I only handle the web stuff I don't have access to the business information. I can only push your requests and my own advice on the Kim.

I'll tackle all the questions you all want answered in one response at the end of this post.

MajorTom11 wrote:Exactly. Let's just stick to the issues we know about for sure.

So AJ? Still waiting sir -

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

As I said, I just got off work, although I do apologize for the wait business comes first since it pays my bills.
I have been emailing Kim all day about your requests.
After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it. There will be a video from Kim posted Thursday along with the new LLC in her name and her name only.
There will be no personal information given to people outside the company. Please remember as freelance work here I am not privy to this information myself! I put in your requests and respond with what I am given.

Dmyze wrote:I quite like AJ's work on the Exiled Minitures blog - some very nice painting there (nice face painting tutorial!).

I sincerely hope that this doesn't blow up in his face as it did to The Hairy Painter & Eye of Error/Lucky No.5 in the past.

I must admit that if I am any example of the standard hobby enthusiast I can't see how many people would feel comfortable ordering from RF.

This is also coming from someone who found out about this from RF's rants first (on their facebook while searching for FW parts).

I appreciate the compliments, I'd love to have the time to do more, but works is keeping me busy!
And if this were to blow up on me, which I do not believe it will, I would hope people could be more understanding that any poor business practices do not reflect my own beliefs and policies.

MajorTom11 wrote:Yup, if AJ is indeed who he claims to be which I am inclined to believe he is (sorry AJ, you have to understand believing anyone is who they say they are when Mandelbaum is involved is extremely sketchy at best) then he is the latest in a long list of people with good morals trying to smooth out a mess for someone they believe is being unfairly accused.

I was one of em during the Lord.Serpius Persona and dealt with Daniel in good faith while he was pretending to be Susan Bisley... while still pretending to be Matt Bonder on top of it lol. It was only the revelation that Bisley had a son and the line-up of other facts that ultimately finally revealed this cowards real name.

Think about it AJ, this guy has spend years and years pretending to be near on a dozen other people... is that normal behavior for someone acting in good faith and with honesty, intending to be responsible to their clients? Hell no. Not to mention hiding and not answering with clients while taking new orders, then claiming he, his wife or his fictional daughter had cancer and that is why he couldn't live up to his obligations... then ultimately just disappearing and getting away with it due to the layers of aliases.

Don't take my word for it. Take his. Read his own words where he screws himself up losing track of his lies at various times. Listen to the harrasing voicemails left over the years as various identities all in his voice from his Dad's number. You don't need me, or anyone else, you just need a bit of your own time and an ounce of faith that maybe we are telling the truth about this and we are genuinely worried about you getting involved here for your own sake.

You can believe me or not, it's up to you. The evidence is there, any sane person would certainly be alarmed at the least upon reading it, and the Mandelbaum hallmarks are all over this, even now.

This isn't a game. It's not retail. You have put your good name on a PR nightmare the scope of which I don't think you fully grasp. Don't underestimate who you are dealing with, nor the potential heartache you will undergo down the line. Invest a few hours in yourself, and review the evidence here and all over the community.

If you do persist in working with RF though -

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

I understand your reluctance to believe that I am who I say I am. Although a 7 year old facebook profile is pretty deep cover if I were an impostor I would like to add, I do not feel he is unfairly confused. I was very active on forums the first time DM was accused of ripping people off, and yes with him involved in the business I would be reluctant. But as will be shown Thursday in a video release from Kim, he is no longer involved at all. He has no say in any aspect of the company now solely run by Kim.
I will attempt to gather evidence from the HH weekender, although I have been told of several fulfilled orders from that priest model and other orders, but since I have no involvement in the business side this is again information I can only pass along what I have been informed of,

MagickalMemories wrote:

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.

I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.

Eric

Thank you for understanding Eric. I do understand the mess that the company is in, but I think they still deserve the chance to redeem themselves. Daniel is no longer a part of the equation. I understand his history and I understand the hesitation from ordering from Resin Forge. There are happy loyal customers who will continue to order, and if people are reluctant to order then that is fine, but this hatred of others in the community needs to stop.
As you said Eric I am not a business partner and any good business would not share that kind of information with someone who does what I do.

Monster Rain wrote:Unless he Is in fact another cleverly crafted Mandelbonder alias.

I feel we have already proven I am not a mandelbonder alias. As my joke earlier, that is a damn long cover to run and not use.
For good measure, this photo is myself and Nam from Lazuli Miniatures taken at Wargames Con in 2012.


So to cover what may be missed if people don't read the response to quotes and just skim, there will be a video uploaded Thursday from Kim with the new business model. She will also be discussing the LLC and sharing information on the new LLC in her name with the public.

Again if I missed anyone that needed an answer, sorry. I'm off to bed now.
I can be reached through facebook or PM if needed to be directly contacted.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.

You asked when about what precisely?

I asked why a lawyer would 'approach them' about about sending a C&D (why would a lawyer 'approach' this smallish company about an internet feud with a niche gaming sight)?

Why would a lawyer ask for paypal payment?

Why would you think sending a lawyer paypal payment is normal?

If you thought you needed a lawyer, why wouldnt you go find a legit one nearby?

All this was said after Daniel supposedly left. They claimed to be scammed by the lawyer. Post is still up, but this means to me that the remaining folks are clearly part of the greater deception, or have very little common sense.

Tom, The thing is though, if this was any other thread and any other poster, your posts would have been considered spam already.

On page 61 of this thread you have repeated the same set of questions 5 times...

 MajorTom11 wrote:

 MagickalMemories wrote:

- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.

Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.

I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.

Eric

Sorry Eric, but I disagree. First, those questions are not just for AJ, it is important to repeat them over and over just to prove the point of how evasive RF really is. That, and to make it crystal clear to even a casual reader that when RF starts throwing hissy fits that we are calling them re-casters etc, it just isn't so. Second, If AJ himself as an RF 'insider' cannot get a straight answer regarding these very straightforward and simple questions, then that should help encourage him to look into it more.

The fact is, RF should have those business numbers if they are operating legally. The whole point of having those numbers is so customers and the public can identify them as a legally operating entity. It should not be 'private information' to disclose who owns the business and where it runs from. If they are legit, what was there to worry about? They were hiding that info even before Mandelbaum was outed and have failed to produce it since. They HAVE to have one, so either they are either operating illegally or for some crazy reason witholding information that would go a long way towards making them a more trustworthy site. That's the whole point of the #. So, we need 2 #'s, the first with all three names on it which StephaKim said was the case, and the 2nd with just her name on it, and we can then verify the dates were legit on the govt side.

That would be huge for them, it can't be understated. It means that they would be accountable legally and easily for any issues, unlike previous businesses Mandelbaum has run under aliases and without the legal items needed. Huge. Cannot be understated. To their benefit on top of it! I am so sure they don't have those numbers that I am offering really solid advice to someone I would rather see never sell another bit or model in this community again because it doesn't even matter lol, shady is as shady does. He doesn't want to get a number because he doesn't ever want to be accountable to the law. I wouldn't either if I was him.

Finally the HH weekender is something they trumpeted so loud and so frequently on their own FB page that it is perhaps the most relavant and 'can't get out of it' lie they told in regards to the loyalty of those they have fooled into believing them. They can't admit they didn't go because it would reveal a huge lie to their audience and call into question all the other promises of goods and advance orders (money taken with no guarantee of an advance order). They can't let their audience know they would create a lie that big and elaborate, especially when there was no real need to do it, no one forced him into that position, he just made a cashgrab and in true Mandelbaum fashion layered lie upon lie until he had a completely unfeasible story, now he just wants everyone to forget what he said and did.

No sir, definitely, those questions need to be hammered home, over and over, for anyone reading this thread, because the answers will either exonnerate them and relieve the community that they are at least dealing with an accountable business, even if they have a very dirty past, and also show they kept their word on one of their biggest promises. Or, the answers will show this is just another giant lie for the sake of lying Daniel Mandelbaum clusterfeth and they should steer clear at all costs as he is running an illegal business and still lying as often as you and I draw breath.

Your points are valid in my personal opinion. And I assure you I am asking your questions up the chain. As I've said I can only respond with the answers I have. I believe you understand where I come from, and I understand where you come from.

Thursday will settle several of these points on the LLC and answer many questions from the business aspect that I don't have the access or answers for.

We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.

Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.

Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.

After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.

I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.

I will say this though Tom I would not personally post publicly my tax ID number but would instead point you to my registered state website so you can ask them. The reason being that's like a social security number now you can look up a businesz with the state register as a business is puplic record.

 Empchild wrote:
I will say this though Tom I would not personally post publicly my tax ID number but would instead point you to my registered state website so you can ask them. The reason being that's like a social security number now you can look up a businesz with the state register as a business is puplic record.

He isn't asking for the Tax ID, but rather the business registration number. Unless they are the same thing...

OverwatchCNC wrote:We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.

Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.

Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.

Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.

tigerstein wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.

After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.

I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.

I am only giving you the final decision I was given. Some information may or may not be shared on Thursday in addition to what I have been told, but I was told that the information on DM and JM Kimsteph would not be shared. Take it how you will, I am just the messenger of that answer. Thank you.

And to point out, depending on where you are, based in Texas an Employer Identification Number is also their Tax ID number if I'm not mistaken.
There are other licenses available to business owners, as well as a DBA ("Doing Business As")

 Empchild wrote:
I will say this though Tom I would not personally post publicly my tax ID number but would instead point you to my registered state website so you can ask them. The reason being that's like a social security number now you can look up a businesz with the state register as a business is puplic record.

Somebody already searched that website and no Resin Forge or ResinForge etc whas found.

Also we don't ask for that info to find out the names of the owners (which is already know (they said it) and is also public), but to see that these three man and woman walked in to the states office and have done the proper paper work to operate a company or they are just selling fw bits and candy out of a back of a truck in front a kindergarten?

One in the same as they are known as an EIN, or FID or any other name depending on state. Now I am not siding with RF as honestly I don't care but each state has different laws but federally I as an owner don't have to prove squat now if you look up my business with the state you will see who the share holders are in my company as that's public record but I don't have to provide my I.D publicly. The stricktist state in the Union is Delaware BTW for businesses.

Do remember all if they are not legit the IRS will get them as Paypal is legally required to report all funds now a days to the IRS. So come next year they will get it if they aren't legit as it will count as personal income. I know this as I had to file two files to the IRS because I was a sole proprietor for 60 days until I became an LLC.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.

Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.

Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.

Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.

tigerstein wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.

After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.

I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.

I am only giving you the final decision I was given. Some information may or may not be shared on Thursday in addition to what I have been told, but I was told that the information on DM and JM Kimsteph would not be shared. Take it how you will, I am just the messenger of that answer. Thank you.

I will use Capture and Control to decry anyone attempting to "defraud, scam" or in any other way harm our community. That includes anyone or any business that is being disingenuous or aiding others in defrauding our community. If this video does not go a long way in formally addressing the issues at hand I won't push for temperance from anyone on here or who writes for C&C. I want you and those you're helping to have a fair shake, that in no way means I believe what's being said only that I am willing to hear you out.

Empchild wrote:One in the same as they are known as an EIN, or FID or any other name depending on state. Now I am not siding with RF as honestly I don't care but each state has different laws but federally I as an owner don't have to prove squat now if you look up my business with the state you will see who the share holders are in my company as that's public record but I don't have to provide my I.D publicly. The stricktist state in the Union is Delaware BTW for businesses.

Do remember all if they are not legit the IRS will get them as Paypal is legally required to report all funds now a days to the IRS. So come next year they will get it if they aren't legit as it will count as personal income. I know this as I had to file two files to the IRS because I was a sole proprietor for 60 days until I became an LLC.

I had the same issue with paypal last year. Now they report all income regardless of the amount, it used to be I believe 10K and up. Hurts when you file your taxes see what you really owe

OverwatchCNC wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.

Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.

Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.

Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.

tigerstein wrote:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.

After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.

I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.

I am only giving you the final decision I was given. Some information may or may not be shared on Thursday in addition to what I have been told, but I was told that the information on DM and JM Kimsteph would not be shared. Take it how you will, I am just the messenger of that answer. Thank you.

I will use Capture and Control to decry anyone attempting to "defraud, scam" or in any other way harm our community. That includes anyone or any business that is being disingenuous or aiding others in defrauding our community. If this video does not go a long way in formally addressing the issues at hand I won't push for temperance from anyone on here or who writes for C&C. I want you and those you're helping to have a fair shake, that in no way means I believe what's being said only that I am willing to hear you out.

And I would expect nothing less than that. I'm just asking for the opportunity for Kim to make this transition and address the issues. All I'm asking is that people will listen, whether they want to believe it or not is up to them, but at least being open minded and willing to listen is a step in the right direction!

Oh and Tiger; nice blood angels.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.

I wouldn't count on a video counting for a whole lot of beans, to be honest. We saw with the Susan Beasley episode that Daniel is not above getting family members to pose as completely unconnected people with nothing to do with him, no, uh uh.... He went so far as to share a photo of his mother holding her driver's licence in order to 'prove' that it was a 60 year old woman running the business in question that time.

So yeah, a video of someone else known to be personally connected to Daniel may not achieve what they think it might.

You may be correct, but I feel like this would be a step in the right direction. Some people will still call it a scam and fake, it's inevitable in this time.
The main idea behind posting this video is to show that Kim is addressing the business and the concerns of the community.

Still can't or won't provide any evidence they are an actual business or show any photos from the HH weekend. Despite what Daniel keeps claiming, Dakka and others don't want personal information, just the barest evidence that their company is legit.

Will await this video, but I'm expecting excuses.

So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?

 AduroT wrote:
So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?

Maybe the video will just be from behind.

"This woman runs a miniatures bitz business, so we can't show you her face on television..."

 Cyporiean wrote:
Tom, The thing is though, if this was any other thread and any other poster, your posts would have been considered spam already.

On page 61 of this thread you have repeated the same set of questions 5 times...

I'll thank you to leave the moderating of this site to the moderators Cyp, thank you.

-Edited by insaniak - let's keep a small amount of decorum, hmm...? -

Aw....I'm sorry I guess that was in poor taste. I just wanted to lighten up the place a bit with humour considering how heated things were going. Could I still just say the video might be coming from her um...*cough cough* you know what?

Jokes aside, but I honestly don't see how not answering any of the questions people like Major Tom have pointed out will change anything for Resin Forge's reputation or legitimacy as a company. Without any concrete evidence and constant evasion of these queries for the sake of "privacy" they're only digging their hole into a massive crater. They honestly should have just went up and quit like they previously had stated beforehand instead of backtracking and trying to pretend everything was hunky dorey now that Daniel and Jason are conveniently "gone".

@AJ, first off, I said I thought you were indeed who you said you were. Second of all, the registration number is not personal information, it is business information. I own a business too, and I couldn't just hide my name and withhold a physical address from my clients.

You understand how this only casts more suspicion on them whereas revealing the # would establish they were doing business legally from the beginning right?

This makes sense to you AJ? Really?

You also think that simply saying Mandelbaum is long gone from a person he has a huge relationship with for years and has no connection to this anymore is enough to put the issue to rest? I look forward to this video to say the least.

Do you want to go on record as saying you have seen pictures from the HH weekender btw? Also, since StephaKim would assumedly actually show her face in said video, of course it would then be perfectly easy to show the pics from the weekender with only Jasons face blurred out and her clearly in attendance yes? I mean, honestly, does that sound like a crazy request to you, just show the pictures you promised you had, since the reason for not showing them is no longer valid and it would again be in RFs favor to show them right?



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PS to all - AJ is here and trying to answer questions, and I am very open to hearing him, if he is the kind of person I think he is, he is probably a good guy.

Certainly waiting til Thursday for this video is in order but so long as AJ is engaging us I will continue to engage him as answering these 3 questions could put this whole mess to rest once and for all one way or another.

If Resin Forge provides information, any information that is concrete and verifiable through authorities that they are operator a fully legitimate and liable, trackable business, then that solves a whole ton of problems. Consequences would be in place and for the first time reasonably assured for any foul play that may occur. At that point, I personally would feel a lot more comfortable and not so worried about the community as they would have the means to protect themselves.

ResinForge, thus far, does not want to provide any assurance of this nature. If they do, we can all relax a bit I think. That being said, the previous reg # verifying the business is and always was on the up and up legally speaking would likewise put a lot of questions to rest. Maybe Daniel really was trying to 'go straight', but there is no reason to take their word for it. Believing facts in front of our faces though, that's when we have to reconsider the position.

 insaniak wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?

Maybe the video will just be from behind.

"This woman runs a miniatures bitz business, so we can't show you her face on television..."

I don't know if that was an international ad insaniak.

And it is puzzling that a video is OK but weekender pictures aren't, maybe they'll come with the video/just after when she realises that since a video is OK, then the pictures are as well. I'm interested to see it as well, and if she'll provide actual proof or just talk for 5-10 minutes and then say 'so there's your proof' and end the video.

 motyak wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?

Maybe the video will just be from behind.

"This woman runs a miniatures bitz business, so we can't show you her face on television..."

I don't know if that was an international ad insaniak.

And it is puzzling that a video is OK but weekender pictures aren't, maybe they'll come with the video/just after when she realises that since a video is OK, then the pictures are as well. I'm interested to see it as well, and if she'll provide actual proof or just talk for 5-10 minutes and then say 'so there's your proof' and end the video.

Judging from the past "quality" of voice messages and otherwise left by Resin Forge team it seems that it's more likely to be the latter; expect wooden monologue as someone reads off a script awkwardly as if there is a gun put behind their head.

Hi AJ welcome. All I can say is a agree with everything MT11 has been saying and asking for.

So there is to be a video now. So there wont be any problems posting the HH pictures all 11 of them now. To show proof that its all 100%.

But at the moment all I'm seeing is the same BS, AJ, we ask questions and get told oh no we cant show proof due to personal info. ( well black it out and then show us ) Faces in the HH pictures etc. Addresses on the flight tickets. Just black it all out. Or post a picture of the 2 HH tickets.

Its up to RF and now you, to find a way of showing us proof and answering our questions, we've given you a way, eg blacking out personal info. Just saying no, will get us nowhere.

How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?

It can happen. I went to GD in Chicago and didn't take even one photo. The only recent photo of me was taken six months ago. The previous ones are on my Facebook account and were taken in 1995.

A.J.

I'm going to ask a few questions. First of all, the HH weekender trip was stated to be an unplanned visit as they were visiting relatives in that area. However, RF accepted preorders for Fulgrims a good while before that event. Was the HH weekender a planned or unplanned trip?

Secondly, will there be public acknowledgement that allegedly former RF employees harrassed several dakkadakka members, and threatened them @ work. That incident was NOT a discussion in any way.

Thirdly, stephanie needs to address the fact that monologueing does not constitute a discussion. A forum where all the fact are laid bare and a third party moderator is present would be a better way of addressing the current situation rather than presenting a wooden *video*.

As far as I am concerned, I am now seeing that Stephanie/kim is a scapegoat, the captain of a sinking ship now left behind by the admiral as it were.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?

I went to GenCon and took five photos.

After I bought a camera, just because I was going to GenCon.

But then... I am notoriously bad about taking photos. (Ask my family, the folks at World Works, my girlfriend....)

The Auld Grump - going by my folder... I am most likely to take photographs of abandoned and derelict buildings.... And then if I am planning on post work....

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?

I went to GenCon and took five photos.

After I bought a camera, just because I was going to GenCon.

But then... I am notoriously bad about taking photos. (Ask my family, the folks at World Works, my girlfriend....)

The Auld Grump - going by my folder... I am most likely to take photographs of abandoned and derelict buildings.... And then if I am planning on post work....

Don't take this personally, but if you were going to an event like this. You had quite a bit of onus on you to come up with evidence that you were there, and knew you'd be questioned about the trip....would you not take easily verifiable evidence, such as a picture of the gate/banner, or even *gasp* the tickets, with fiancial details blacked out, takes 5 minutes in paint, or you could use a commercial program and actually remove the confidential stuff. If someone claims to have taken easily verifiable photographic evidence, but yet refuses to post them. I find that is very shady.

Still confused as to why StephKim herself hasn't posted here?

She's not blocked, and neither was Jason, but all communication STILL goes through intermediaries - no direct dialogue has taken place (apart from what appears to be two deranged voice messages).

And colour me confused again! The whole time we've been asking for the photos from the HH weekender, we've been blocked as neither StephKim or Jason wanted others to see their faces 'due to the death threats' Daniel had received (still an unverified claim along with the accusation of flowers sent for his dead mother etc...).

With this being the case, how can StephKim now claim to be preparing a video in which she shall appear, but continue to insist the the HH evidence cannot be shown for privacy reasons?

Something whiffs here, and it's not yesterday's fish.

To be fair, it's only an assumption that Kim/Stephanie is in the video

 insaniak wrote:
To be fair, it's only an assumption that Kim/Stephanie is in the video

That's a good point, but who else would it be? She is the sole owner and member of this business (unless we count AJ, but I think that you aren't technically part of the business, just moderating their page and communicating here, but I could be wrong and if I am then apologies) so would be the only person really in position to do anything. Unless they hire someone else to do it or something along those lines? But then that just gets more confusing.

@ A J:

follow up question: what is the address of Resin Forge? Their outdated shop stll doesn't give any contact info apart from a generic e-mail and a random cell phone number (declared "customer service number") - hardly inspires confidence.

And tell "Kim" that if the video is the same as the monologue on the phone and the FB posts just dancing around issues it will just fuel the flames. Either it will contain extremely clear and precise and verifiable answers or the shitstorm will be indeed epic as people are less and less inclined for playing games.

And just as a sidenote, we were already promised LLC and whatnot in the past before RF suddenly decided that announcing closing up would be better than to present the promised info when it was the due date

ExiledMiniatures wrote:After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.

In that case, I think there is a strong likelihood that people will be led to believe that the company was never legally registered, that it was being operated fraudulently, and that Stephanie Kim Hernandez -- as a member of the company -- was a party to the fraud.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

ExiledMiniatures wrote:After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.

In that case, I think there is a strong likelihood that people will be led to believe that the company was never legally registered, that it was being operated fraudulently, and that Stephanie Kim Hernandez -- as a member of the company -- was a party to the fraud.

An altogether appropriate assumption, seeing as there is no reason for them not to provide this unless it doesn't exist

ExiledMiniatures wrote:Hey guys I just want to chime into this firestorm.

My names Aj Thornton and yes I am the new page manager of the resin forge Facebook page. I was a customer before and never had an issue with any orders.
I understand sometimes things happen in business and bad practice can leave a bitter taste, but I assure you that any problem will be dealt with.

As for my Facebook page, I've had the same account since 2006 when I was a freshman in high school back in 2006. Yes the name is inappropriate but Facebook will not allow me to change it and I'm not going to lose the memories and friends I have on Facebook because of that. I only linked my profile in my post to introduce myself, show that I am a real person (as in not dm) and to provide a way for people to contact me in regards to the Facebook page. I have no personal connection to any of the previous owners of resin forge and therefore have no reason to have them on my friends list.

Monster Rain wrote:Unless he Is in fact another cleverly crafted Mandelbonder alias.

Why is it that when you introduced yourself on Dakka before you went by William, your Google+ is under William Thornton, your CMON account is under William T. Did you have some sort of identity crisis recently? I only ask in the interest of continuity.

ExiledMiniatures wrote:Welcome to my blog everyone. I've made this to help me keep focused. Part of my problem is being a slow painter and having dozens of unfinished projects. This conflicts with my business as I am the owner of a Miniature Studio and being behind schedule means no money!
So I've made this blog on here titled "This Week I've Been Painting..." because each week will be different. There are very few projects that I will spend months at a time on.

So before I jump into projects and pictures I'd like to give a little history about myself.
My name is William and I've been painting and playing Warhammer since 1997. I've made Honorable Mention at Golden Demon 4 times, no wins yet. I won a Gold in Sci-Fi Single and a Silver in Fantasy Single at WargamesCon 2012 in Austin, Tx after a 9 month break from painting due to unforeseen problems. I do work full time to support my personal hobbies of painting and eating.

That's....a good question.

So much for the "excellent relations" between Resin Forge and Forge World. Also note that the owner of Resin Forge is a man and married

Daniel, you got quite slapped by Forge World, didn't you?




Source: https://www.facebook.com/ForgeWorldUK/posts/630555683628382

That's from March 18, maybe since then they got divorced and then they booted DM from the company...Problem solved?

Plus the corresponding so usual whining on his own page, making the clear connection that both posts and persons belong together.



Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=506537866048641&id=464657756903319

Yeah Daniel, we *totally* believe you are so well connected to Forge World

Can we get a comment from AJ on this? I know he could be asleep or something but when he next logs on it'd be good if he could have a response from RF.

Can we get a comment from AJ on this? I know he could be asleep or something but when he next logs on it'd be good if he could have a response from RF, because this flies in the face of current claims of no affiliation.

A bit, doesn't it? It also says something about who made the conversions - in a way. And if you go via the profile of this "spouse" (burn profile obviously) you end up with a cascade of equally questionable "friends"... So yeah, was THAT really that surprising?

And THANK YOU to our informer who asked to not be named. You know who you are, sharp eye and good memory there!

Those screens are from some time ago...

Those screens are from some time ago...

Yes, the date is written on them. Since when does the age of statements affect their "truth"? This again illuminates the whole construct of personas going on over there. And it trashes the claims how well connected RF and FW allegedly were/ are.

I was referring to motyak's statement about current affiliation. A post from march says little about who is involved with Resin Forge now.

Good point insaniak, withdrawn

I was referring to motyak's statement about current affiliation. A post from march says little about who is involved with Resin Forge now.

It doesn't. But it supports the general mistrust about the existence of every "new person" that pops up in the Mandelbaum/ Resin Forge game.

But in March, Stephanie, Jason, and Daniel were all involved with Resin Forge.

Unless La Petite Gamine is Kim's account, there in questioning her whole "not his wife" thing, then yeah, I don't see what this has to do with anything current.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
As a fan and a client, I offered to help manage the facebook page. I knew this also meant I needed to post here before being accused of being another DM imposter.

My painting service has no ties to Resin Forge and I am not someone who pushes my clients to order from them. I encourage all people to buy from who they like but with pieces such as FW for full kits I recommend direct from FW as the issue with miscasts deems to high, but for individual bits, I shop best price before placing orders some times that's from Resin Forge, sometimes it's eBay or another vendor.

Thank you for your response, I apologise for the delay in my own answer. So it's accurate to say that you have not met Ms. Hernandez in person, and also that you have no ties to Resin Forge, but you felt so strongly that as well as having a job where you

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
work 70 hour weeks an paint till the wee hours of the morning

That you devoted what little spare time you have left after your work and painting to moderate the Resin Forge Facebook page

 AduroT wrote:
Unless La Petite Gamine is Kim's account, there in questioning her whole "not his wife" thing, then yeah, I don't see what this has to do with anything current.

Yeah but we can't really speculate on that as there is no support. And the claims of 'we are super close with FW' are quite old now and haven't come up in a while.

What it has to do with current is that it is apparent evidence of deception by Resin Forge during the time when Mandelbaum, Jason and Stephanie/Kim were all proprietors of the company and therefore jointly responsible for the company's actions.

In other words, if you cannot trust what Stephanie/Kim was doing in March-April-May, why can you trust what she is doing in June?

That is the relevance, in my opinion.

Amen to that...

So has anyone taken the steps to call shenanigans on what is suspected of being an illegal business?

http://www.ehow.com/how_7611310_report-illegal-home-business.html

So has anyone taken the steps to call shenanigans on what is suspected of being an illegal business?

http://www.ehow.com/how_7611310_report-illegal-home-business.html

To which address? Seeing as RF operates without an address.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

So has anyone taken the steps to call shenanigans on what is suspected of being an illegal business?

http://www.ehow.com/how_7611310_report-illegal-home-business.html

To which address? Seeing as RF operates without an address.

Well it doesn't take too much to find out where they conduct business online.

Well it doesn't take too much to find out where they conduct business online.

You mean Daniel Mandelbaum's police report adress? That totally qualifies for "Kim Hernandez" then, does it?

The only La Petite Gamine I can find on facebook is a blonde high school chick from Germany.

@kronk: https://www.facebook.com/lapetite.gamine1?hc_location=stream

She's also into birds. As "Kim". What a nice happy family that must have been at RF

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
Plus the corresponding so usual whining on his own page, making the clear connection that both posts and persons belong together.

http://i.imgur.com/Q8wVQxj.jpg

Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=506537866048641&id=464657756903319

Yeah Daniel, we *totally* believe you are so well connected to Forge World

Am I reading this right? The opening post by RF complains that they "ignore all the miscasts and fix everything", and then shortly after go on to say "we. . . never get miscasts and always have cleaned and un-warped parts"

 kronk wrote:
The only La Petite Gamine I can find on facebook is a blonde high school chick from Germany.

I was just going to mention that very same thing **edit** - nevermind

Lol, I've been banned by forgeworld for years... Ever since I kept posting photos of the 'marvellously cast' skin wolves they kept sending me... Sadly, the ban meant I could never publicly say how good the mini is now its cast properly.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
@kronk: https://www.facebook.com/lapetite.gamine1?hc_location=stream

She's also into birds. As "Kim". What a nice happy family that must have been at RF

Like the birds you hear in the background of Kim's phone call?

So, according to that post on the Facebook wall, Stephanie Kimberley Hernandez IS married to Daniel Mandelbaum.

Interesting.

Like the birds you hear in the background of Kim's phone call?

We are absolutely convinced that this is nothing but a coincidence. As it is a coincidence that some "friends" of La Petite Gamine (=LPG from now on) are also absolutely into birds. After all it IS a very common hobby, nothing wrong with that

So A. J., could you please release a statement who was married to who of the previous or current owners of Resin Forge?, thanks

Wait, I thought he was married to a blonde high school chick in another country?

So, according to that post on the Facebook wall, Stephanie Kimberley Hernandez IS married to Daniel Mandelbaum.

It does not mention any names, does it?

Wait, I thought he was married to a blonde high school chick in another country?

Where does that come from? *confused*

 AduroT wrote:

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
@kronk: https://www.facebook.com/lapetite.gamine1?hc_location=stream

She's also into birds. As "Kim". What a nice happy family that must have been at RF

Like the birds you hear in the background of Kim's phone call?

Link already broken? That was quick.

Link already broken? That was quick.

Works here.

rigeld2 wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
@kronk: https://www.facebook.com/lapetite.gamine1?hc_location=stream

She's also into birds. As "Kim". What a nice happy family that must have been at RF

Like the birds you hear in the background of Kim's phone call?

Link already broken? That was quick.

You have to log into facebook.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

So, according to that post on the Facebook wall, Stephanie Kimberley Hernandez IS married to Daniel Mandelbaum.

It does not mention any names, does it?

Wait, I thought he was married to a blonde high school chick in another country?

Where does that come from? *confused*

 kronk wrote:
The only La Petite Gamine I can find on facebook is a blonde high school chick from Germany.

Koppo wrote:
Wait, I thought he was married to a blonde high school chick in another country?

The correct La Petite Gamine was later posted, Koppo.

Ok let me get this straight.

LPG Posts on the FW FB Wall and says you banned my husband blah blah. He cannot post blah blah... He's been a good customer blah blah... and according to her FB is well into birds.

fast forward a couple of months and Kimanie takes over the running of RF and leaves a voice mail where birds can be heard clear and distinct in the background and she then posts on RF FB wall that she has taken over has nothing to do with DM and J? and they both left, she will be fronting the company and posting the details soon in a video to put everyone's minds at rest, but the picture she chooses to post with is nothing at all to do with RF or FW or minis in general or even the hobby but is wait for it... Bird related...

I know this is pure speculation but doesn't it seem too coincidental?

Let's move off of the La Petite Gamine please, it's not helping us with this case, please take it to PMs if you wish to figure everything out.

I know this is pure speculation but doesn't it seem too coincidental?

Only very, very bad people would possibly assume a connection there You think we will see birds in the video?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

I know this is pure speculation but doesn't it seem too coincidental?

Only very, very bad people would possibly assume a connection there You think we will see birds in the video?

You couldn't make it up

 Doctadeth wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?

I went to GenCon and took five photos.

After I bought a camera, just because I was going to GenCon.

But then... I am notoriously bad about taking photos. (Ask my family, the folks at World Works, my girlfriend....)

The Auld Grump - going by my folder... I am most likely to take photographs of abandoned and derelict buildings.... And then if I am planning on post work....

Don't take this personally, but if you were going to an event like this. You had quite a bit of onus on you to come up with evidence that you were there, and knew you'd be questioned about the trip....would you not take easily verifiable evidence, such as a picture of the gate/banner, or even *gasp* the tickets, with fiancial details blacked out, takes 5 minutes in paint, or you could use a commercial program and actually remove the confidential stuff. If someone claims to have taken easily verifiable photographic evidence, but yet refuses to post them. I find that is very shady.

Maybe, maybe not - cameras just do not come to my mind.

But, then, I do not have a business that needs the evidence. For that... I would have taken photos - heck, I would make snarky photos, with my fellow culprits wearing the faces of dead presidents or the like.

I do think that A J may have been put in an impossible, or near impossible, situation. Like being the spin doctor for Bernard Madoff, though on a smaller scale....

The Auld Grump

The thing is, RF could have used the excuse they forgot to take a camera, or the battery ran out or something.

It's not likely, what with smartphones and so on, but it would have been far more plausible than the excuse they actually used, which was that every shot they took had their faces in it and they were unable to blur them out with image editing software.

Edited... We're too far beyond this for it to matter any more.

Eric

Why should I trust a business run by someone posing as DM's wife at Forge World and posing as someone completely unrelated to DM on their own page?
Why should I trust someone complaining to FW about banning and unfair treatment, while at the same time showing us a dubious FW email how decent customers all private people working for RF are?
Why should I trust someone part of an assumedly illegal business for years, now trying to make it legal?
Why should I prefer harassing phone calls by the new owner to the harassing phone calls by the old owner?

At least the Daniel Mandelbaum team makes it easy to us, when they themselves contradict their many lies, given time.

Daniel used established hobbyists to cover for him when he ran the Miniature Wargame Conversions blog. These were all real people.

I have links to their actual blogs on my home computer, but a few of their aliases were/are:

Lucky No. 5
AridMonk
Redscorps

All of these people have since severed their contacts with Daniel Mandelbaum, mostly in very negative circumstances. If the person now communicating on Daniel's behalf wanted to contact any of them, it'd be easy to verify what I have posted. Again, I can find the links to their blogs / etc if necessary... all are real people, all duped by Daniel Mandelbaum into fronting for him and defending him, just as this new person is doing. I have no doubt they are a real person, and that their connection to Daniel Mandelbaum will end just as it has for all others who put themselves in this position- in tears.

Also, the fact that Daniel is using Stephanie Hernandez, his ex-wife, is nearly identical to how he used his mother-in-law, Susan Beasley. Nothing is new here, the scam is exactly the same as before. Just because there are real people involved means absolutely nothing- just look at his past history.

He clouds this by using real people mixed in with aliases- I have little doubt that "Jason" was, in fact, Daniel. His voicemail recording which Aerethan shared with me matches the voice on the phone from the voicemails I recorded from "Damien". The man is a liar, pure and simple, and anyone who is thinking of working with/for/on his behalf should run as fast as they can in the opposite direction, instead.

TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Doctadeth wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?

I went to GenCon and took five photos.

After I bought a camera, just because I was going to GenCon.

But then... I am notoriously bad about taking photos. (Ask my family, the folks at World Works, my girlfriend....)

The Auld Grump - going by my folder... I am most likely to take photographs of abandoned and derelict buildings.... And then if I am planning on post work....

Don't take this personally, but if you were going to an event like this. You had quite a bit of onus on you to come up with evidence that you were there, and knew you'd be questioned about the trip....would you not take easily verifiable evidence, such as a picture of the gate/banner, or even *gasp* the tickets, with fiancial details blacked out, takes 5 minutes in paint, or you could use a commercial program and actually remove the confidential stuff. If someone claims to have taken easily verifiable photographic evidence, but yet refuses to post them. I find that is very shady.

Maybe, maybe not - cameras just do not come to my mind.

But, then, I do not have a business that needs the evidence. For that... I would have taken photos - heck, I would make snarky photos, with my fellow culprits wearing the faces of dead presidents or the like.

I do think that A J may have been put in an impossible, or near impossible, situation. Like being the spin doctor for Bernard Madoff, though on a smaller scale....

The Auld Grump

Except the whole point of going to the weekender was to have tons of RF direct coverage and news from the event! They went expressly to take pics and show their customers lol, then they ended up only using other peoples photos and did not manage to take a single picture without stephakim and jason in it. It totally makes sense right?

RiTides wrote:Daniel used established hobbyists to cover for him when he ran the Miniature Wargame Conversions blog. These were all real people.

I have links to their actual blogs on my home computer, but a few of their aliases were/are:

Lucky No. 5
AridMonk
Redscorps

All of these people have since severed their contacts with Daniel Mandelbaum, mostly in very negative circumstances. If the person now communicating on Daniel's behalf wanted to contact any of them, it'd be easy to verify what I have posted. Again, I can find the links to their blogs / etc if necessary... all are real people, all duped by Daniel Mandelbaum into fronting for him and defending him, just as this new person is doing. I have no doubt they are a real person, and that their connection to Daniel Mandelbaum will end just as it has for all others who put themselves in this position- in tears.

Also, the fact that Daniel is using Stephanie Hernandez, his ex-wife, is nearly identical to how he used his mother-in-law, Susan Beasley. Nothing is new here, the scam is exactly the same as before. Just because there are real people involved means absolutely nothing- just look at his past history.

He clouds this by using real people mixed in with aliases- I have little doubt that "Jason" was, in fact, Daniel. His voicemail recording which Aerethan shared with me matches the voice on the phone from the voicemails I recorded from "Damien". The man is a liar, pure and simple, and anyone who is thinking of working with/for/on his behalf should run as fast as they can in the opposite direction, instead.

Precisely and well said Ritides. This is nothing new... though I am and will continue to give AJ the benefit of the doubt until I have a reason not to, the patterns are identical. The only thing that has changed is for some reason he is refusing to abandon this company and continues to try and resuscitate it... that is the interesting part.

Your business is being criticized, your reputation is being criticized and your intention to attend a trade fair is being doubted.

So you go to the trade fair, across an ocean, in a plane, to another country... And you don't take any photos?

I am right in that, aren't I? He did say 'I'm going to England to meet up with a few folks who're selling me their Fulgrim models so I can dispel myths about me' and then not provide any photos?

Whilst I understand what others are saying about forgetting to take photos, I find it difficult to rationale a person under so much scrutiny, so vigorously defending their claims, then taking not a single printable picture.

It makes little to no sense at all. You'd take a swathe of pictures and publish them everywhere to make your critics eat humble pie...

Again MGS, they specifially 'went' to provide coverage of the event, promising pics and updates the whole way through, and very strongly trumpeting it for some time after Mandelbaum was outted. There is no room for debate as to whether or not they said they were going in a journalistic type capacity to provide blow by blow coverage for the FB audience.

There is no 'maybe they didn't feel like taking pics', because that is in fact a large part of the mission they supposedly had in going in the first place. That and picking up unlimited Fulgrims of course.

Just for clarity, and to highlight why we're asking quite pertinent questions to AJ, here's two little snippets from RF's facebook page (which BT, even a complete technophobe like me managed to highlight / block certain parts for privacy and clarity):





And then one where they insist that THEY are in attendance:



So, AJ, Kim needs to PROVE this please - as she went with Jason, where is the evidence?

Umm, but IIRC the Heresy weekender wasn't at GWHQ, it was at a hotel (also in Nottingham).
Edit: Just checked; yeah it was at the Belfry.

WInt: You know that, I know that.... it seems that RF DIDN'T know that....

Also, unless they have the pictures elsehwere (i.e. on a phone, cd, SD card, etc...) The only HH weekender pics on Resin Forge's photobucket account are all tagged with Minudra's name in the bottom corner.

I still eagerly await William/AJs response as it is now 3 in the afternoon in TX.

The fact that all of their pics are someone else's has been a commonly reiterated point here. So, that's no real shock. : )

Eric

 MagickalMemories wrote:
The fact that all of their pics are someone else's has been a commonly reiterated point here. So, that's no real shock. : )

Eric

Eric, you're quite right, but it's worth repeating as some may have forgotten or, if 'late to the party' didnt even know of the existence of said posts...

Incidentally...

- We totally went to the HH weekend, but can't post pictures because...
- We totally have a lawyer drafting up ownership papers and sorting out the registration to prove stuff...
- We're not posting the business registration, because people won't believe it
- We're sick of people not believing our stories, so we're totally closing down... but still taking orders to clear out stock - get in quick!
- Kimphanie has totally taken over the business and will post a video on thursday as proof...

Is anyone actually expecting said video to appear? This is starting to sound an awful lot like the 'No, I totally posted your stuff last month, but the post office returned it to me, so I posted it again last week and will send you your tracking information next week when I'm back on the same state as my computer...' sort of runaround that seems eerily familiar...

I fully expect a video of some kind to be posted.
I fully expect that video to not answer any question but be a more of a "new management, same great name" type of thing.

I fully expect AJ to never show up again. A web moderator "guy" should not be disappearing after one day. Particularly the day after his name has come into confusion.

Yeah the whole "My name is William, no wait now it's A.J.!" was really confusing. And he hasn't come back since that info was posted...

I believe he has a job.... posts when he can.

-P

Sorry guys I'm at work on calls all day so I don't have the time to respond to everything. Ill just address the last two posts since I only have a minute.

I actually explained William T earlier. My middle name is William, my last name Thornton I use it for my personal commission service for a variety of reasons namely I think it sounds more professional, as well as it keeps people from constantly asking "oh what does Aj stand for?" Which is something I hear a lot followed by, "where does Aj come from if there's no j in your name?" I've always been called Aj by my parents because my mom didn't like the name my dad insisted I be given so she called me Aj instead. For sake of argument my full name is Alfred William Thornton. I don't like Alfred, so grew up going by Aj, but I prefer William for running my business. As I have no personal stake in resin forge and really am in a behind the scenes position where my real job isn't to answer questions on forums but manage the Facebook, I used Aj.

Now I will answer other questions when I get home tonight and have time to read them fully and gather the answers.

 porkuslime wrote:
I believe he has a job.... posts when he can.

-P

Well going by the green online, he's been er online for most of the evening here (UK)

No offense but if your job isn't to answer questions in a forum you should probably have thought twice about coming to one where people are waiting for questions to be asked after weeks and weeks of excuses.

I'm honestly surprised anyone would join up with a company after all the constant bad press and racial remarks they have made, but good luck with at.


Edit: By racial I mean the whole German thing he's goes off on out of no where.

I have the website open on my home computer which is constantly running so it shows me constantly logged in. I do check it between calls but don't have the time to in depth response.

The original reason I posted here was because as soon as it was announced that I was managing the page I was being attacked and called fake, so I posted to address that.

And since then I've been working to try to get answers, granted I haven't been able to get more information than what I have shared and am that does t surprise me since I am only in charge of the Facebook page and not in the business side.
I share the answers that I am provided when I ask the questions.

So if your not here to answer the questions that we have asked and gotten banned for asking on RF facebook page, then why post here?

Plus the following from your first post.......

Whether or not you like Daniel he has left the business. IF you do not trust Kim to follow through with her promises and to fullfill orders then do not order, but the insults and hatred are not necessary.

All the hate and insults came from RF, calling Lex a Nazi, calling someone up at work and trying to get them fired, police report to go with that one.

So I will continue to warn people NOT to order from RF.

All we want are our questions answered.

Probably pretty minor and just a drop in the bucket, but I have always loathed places that just sell your contact information. Resin Forge doing that just gives them another black mark in my book.

Hogun wrote:


All we want are our questions answered.

Rhetorical Question: What if there will not be any questions answered? Will this thread continue indefinitely asking questions it know will never be answered or believe in?

Rhetorical Answer: Does it seem like all of this is consuming too much of the community's time? The more I look at this thread the more I wonder how others outside the prism of DakkaDakka's forums actually view us.

A chanting drone of the same thing over and over again is hardly appealing. This was brought up by someone else a few pages back about the litany of what is ultimately the same message being asked over and over again.

I'm hesitant to say I am concerned however because I have seen what has happened in the past with Daniel Mandelbaum and therefore do not know if abandoning this line of questioning is good either.

Guys you can't blame AJ here for not instantly answering and you also should give him the benefit of the doubt until something concretely proves otherwise.

I would much rather he be here trying to politely answer at least some questions.

As I have said previously, if there is nothing fishy about AJ (and again, I have to point out AJ that the suspicion is a hard learned lesson when it comes to anything Mandelbaum related, the guy pretended to be a 60 year old woman who sold FW bits), then he is likely to find out sooner or later to his dismay that he was/is being manipulated. If he is being manipulated, it is probably on the basis that he is a good person with a strong sense of justice, and depending on which end of this conversation he came in on first, and depending if he had a good experience with RF, one can see why he would think we were hounding a person who didn't deserve it.

I did the same thing myself, I stumbled in half way through the Lord Serpius thread and thought to myself 'my god it's a witch hunt! these accusations sound thin and far fetched I need to help calm this down'. When I posted to that effect Mandelbaum (as Susan) immediately started PMing me appealing for help and stroking my ego about how fair and honest I was etc. Over time his stories fell apart, and by the end of it I realized all the things that struck me as far fetched with hunting mob stuff was in fact spot on in even the most minute details. Let me tell you, it sucked to know I believed that clown even for a second and doubted people who were aggressive because they needed to be.

So, AJ, just as you have tried not to be hostile with us, we owe you the same in my view for the moment. I want to make it crystal clear I do not for a second think the people you have involved yourself with are in any way honest or trustworthy under any circumstances. My hope is not to 'prove' anything when it comes to them, as I think we have more than enough shady stuff and bs from the RF identity already to show they are not on the up and up, even if they are currently delivering on their promises, the back-end is a complete tangle of lies and misdirection and that matters even with that delivery taking place.

No, my hope is simply to save you some trouble my friend. I was you. I know how this story ends. I know the pathological lengths the person you are dealing with will go to to lie, lengths no normal person would believe or even think of. I don't blame you for buying in with them. I hope you will figure out the truth for yourself, soon, before you find out the hard way after you have invested a lot of time and effort.

That is heartfelt advice man, I swear on my children it is aimed at your best interests.

Well I think the mods will continue to keep an eye out for anymore DM sites and continue to warn the community, like they did to begin with.

If questions stopped being asked, will we as a community, start seeing posts, about still waiting for orders after months etc. Or don't order from this site etc.

Something has been bothering me about AJ's response earlier:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Will Ms Hernandez confirm or deny being Daniel's wife, as they share the same first and second names.

I can confirm for you that they are not married or related.

Happy modeling!
Aj

Critical to trusting Resin Forge is knowing who Stephanie is... and this relationship is the crux of the issue. So we got the answer above. Later:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

They did date years ago and Daniels mom was like family to her is the answer I've been given hence the statement in the obituary.

So I'm completely disgusted with the initial weasel answer. That was a lie by omission that was only revealed by the later clarification that, yes, they actually DO know each other and had a relationship. The legalese "not related" BS was trying to obfuscate the point, which is that they were in a relationship, in fact "Daniels mom was like family", and now we're supposed to believe that Daniel is gone? Wow.

Good luck with that "customer service" thing, AJ. Here's a hint. Customers don't like weasel answers to honest questions.

And this is what it boils down to...

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
I was very active on forums the first time DM was accused of ripping people off, and yes with him involved in the business I would be reluctant. But as will be shown Thursday in a video release from Kim, he is no longer involved at all. He has no say in any aspect of the company now solely run by Kim.

If Kim was running it with Daniel before, they were in a relationship, and Daniels mom was like family, why should ANYONE believe he has washed his hands?

This is why this thread is so important. The base issue is not going away.

And repeating the same questions is a very, very good tactic to show the non-answers.

When is it Thursday in your crazy back to front hemisphere again? I'm quite interested in this video.

Also AJ that is an awesome name in full. I can't believe you aren't a fan.

 motyak wrote:
When is it Thursday in your crazy back to front hemisphere again? I'm quite interested in this video.

Also AJ that is an awesome name in full. I can't believe you aren't a fan.

After Wednesday, but before Friday!
Yours, "he who lives on the half the way things should spin"????

 d-usa wrote:
Probably pretty minor and just a drop in the bucket, but I have always loathed places that just sell your contact information. Resin Forge doing that just gives them another black mark in my book.

I missed that announcement.
When was it made and how was it proven?


Eric


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 Gymnogyps wrote:

Something has been bothering me about AJ's response earlier:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Will Ms Hernandez confirm or deny being Daniel's wife, as they share the same first and second names.

I can confirm for you that they are not married or related.

Happy modeling!
Aj

Critical to trusting Resin Forge is knowing who Stephanie is... and this relationship is the crux of the issue. So we got the answer above. Later:

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:

They did date years ago and Daniels mom was like family to her is the answer I've been given hence the statement in the obituary.

So I'm completely disgusted with the initial weasel answer. That was a lie by omission that was only revealed by the later clarification that, yes, they actually DO know each other and had a relationship. The legalese "not related" BS was trying to obfuscate the point, which is that they were in a relationship, in fact "Daniels mom was like family", and now we're supposed to believe that Daniel is gone? Wow.

Good luck with that "customer service" thing, AJ. Here's a hint. Customers don't like weasel answers to honest questions.

How is it a weasel answer? PRESUMING they are no longer together romantically, everything above is 100% true, as posted. If you read more into the initial message, that is nobody's fault but your own.

 Gymnogyps wrote:

And this is what it boils down to...

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
I was very active on forums the first time DM was accused of ripping people off, and yes with him involved in the business I would be reluctant. But as will be shown Thursday in a video release from Kim, he is no longer involved at all. He has no say in any aspect of the company now solely run by Kim.

If Kim was running it with Daniel before, they were in a relationship, and Daniels mom was like family, why should ANYONE believe he has washed his hands?

This is why this thread is so important. The base issue is not going away.

And repeating the same questions is a very, very good tactic to show the non-answers.

You're stating the obvious. We've all (most?) said that before. We do not believe DanMatt's no longer involved. I'm not saying this is true, but it SEEMS like you haven't read the entire thread.


Eric

The statement by Kim on Facebook that she purchased the mailing list and contact list from Resin Forge.

I know it's a pretty minor thing to most people, but I would not be a fan of my contact information being sold around like that.

As she was (allegedly) a 1/3 owner, I wouldn't call that the same thing. Basically, she (allegedly) bought out the business. That information would come with it.

Even if a total outsider bought the business, that information would typically go along with it.

Eric

Ok guys, I'm home but about to pass out so I'll give some quick statements/answers.

Tom I thank you for your concern, I understand what your saying. I will most likely send you a PM in the morning to have some conversations.

Eric thank you for answering that post for me, I appreciate it!

d-usa: while yes under normal circumstances I would not be a fan of a company selling information, which btw facebook does as well, but under this circumstance Kim was already involved in the business, buying the contacts from them isn't something that she would not have already had access to. The difference would be if she then turned around and sold it to somebody else, yet again like what facebook does with your information.

WarOne: I agree that the amount of conversation could make one on the outside look at Dakka as the bad guys. I would not accuse them of that as they want answers. Some people may go to far, but since I joined the conversation for the most part the mod team has done a good job of removing blatantly offensive posts.
I do think that it is using a lot more time, but since the community is still looking for answers they will keep posting.
Personally I believe a thread that is closed but pinned with a warning would suffice until all the answers are provided rather than the constant arguing.
Perhaps my opinion is wrong.

Hopefully this all makes sense, I am off to sleep now.
Have a good night folks.
Happy Modeling!

No answers will just be provided, every detail has to be chiseled out of them. Look how hard it was to discern the relationship between Daniel and Kim. I'm still not sure we know the truth, married, not married, divorced? And many other questions have been hanging for weeks.

Closing this thread and putting up an easily forgotten pinned and closed thread would simply play into DM's hands to silence criticism and investigation. It's something that he has suggested in the past, usually through another party or using a false alias.

AJ,

As an answer that is incredibly poor. Since your last answer (taking away the posts questioning your existence) several posters asked some pretty pertinent questions that require answers, and have required answers for the last 6 or so weeks.

So a company that is being dragged through the mud, isn't even going to clean itself up up by answering the questions ask, showing the world proof to the questions asked, great way to running a company. A company when asked if DM is a co-ower goes all nuts, calling people trolls or nazi hate pages, calls a person up at work and tries to get him fired? A company that make sure a big deal about going to the HH weekender an event that would be a great place to network and to gain for fans/customers, and we get no RF stamped pictures due to the so call 2 member team being in all. That event was a time and place to boost the so call good name of the company to show the world, yes we are real and can cover the event with our own pictures, get the extra shots of the pictures, go that extra mile for our fans and the people who have concerns about us, but we get nothing just more B'S and more questions are asked. But now a video will be posted, so can the HH pictures. If not RF are B'S and a whole lots of crap and a dark cloud will hang over the company forever. Even if Kim buys RF, who is to sayy DM won't be running the company lol.


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Sorry for the wall of text on my phone.

Well the answers are coming today (or tomorrow, it's Thursday here but you know what I mean). We in this thread could ease up on AJ at least for the next few hours, at least until the video hits and then we know the score, be it a well constructed answer that puts the problems to rest, or something else. If there's no answers or no video though...that'll cause a bit of a stir.

 motyak wrote:
Well the answers are coming today (or tomorrow, it's Thursday here but you know what I mean). We in this thread could ease up on AJ at least for the next few hours, at least until the video hits and then we know the score, be it a well constructed answer that puts the problems to rest, or something else. If there's no answers or no video though...that'll cause a bit of a stir.

While I definitely understand where you're coming from in terms of giving them a chance to show that they might actually (however unlikely that may be) be turning over a new leaf or prove once and for all that Resin Forge is eliminating the rest of Daniel's influence on the company the fact that they already reneged on their previous proclamation of them closing due to "haters" like us and have yet to provide an inkling that it's not Mandelbaum trying to wring out the last few pennies out of this "new" endeavour is absolutely unacceptable considering how long he has already strung along and harassed certain people. So in this sense I think that demanding answers (in a stern but reasonable way of course) as some of our previous, maybe more enthusiastic, posters have been doing is fine because it emphasizes that enough is enough and that people are sick and tired of the amount of evasion/games that they have had to put up with. Honestly this is the "do or die" moment where it's the one (or least one of the last chances) instance/opportunity to get some credibility back as a company and finally at long last provide some actual answers to the legitimate questions that have been repeated over and over.

Agreed, and guys, let's address AJ in the same manner he is addressing us. Leaving many questions unanswered is frustrating yes, but he is being pretty polite.

I am a bit tolerant to a more aggresive tone when talking 'to' StephaKimJasonDanielMandelbaum, mostly because of the shrieking nonsense he spews at the rest of the community, I figure there is a bit of latitude there (within reason), but this AJ hasn't done anything as of yet and as such I will be expecting a degree of civility.

Don't get me wrong, you can still ask questions and point out the non-answers or absolute ridiculousness of some answers, just don't a jerk while you do it.

AJ, if you have honest questions for me by all means PM, I promise to give you answers that stick to the facts and relate only to corroborated evidence or personal experience. The rabbit hole goes deep my friend.

As I understand it, AJ -- or ExiledMiniatures to use his name on DakkaDakka -- has not met or spoken to any of the Resin Forge staff. His ability to answer any questions is limited by what the RF people will tell him by email.

I do appreciate Exiledminiatures clearing up the name thing. Especially the other user names. I recognized his Avatar from BNC.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
As I understand it, AJ -- or ExiledMiniatures to use his name on DakkaDakka -- has not met or spoken to any of the Resin Forge staff. His ability to answer any questions is limited by what the RF people will tell him by email.

Well that is what he is telling us, I want to believe but he is from FT Worth which is just a hop and a skip from Dallas. That aside, If AJ doesnt have the answers, it can be construed that he has not been told the answers. He has indicated several times that he has asked the questions already. Any evasion is not on his part...

 Ammobunkerdean wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
As I understand it, AJ -- or ExiledMiniatures to use his name on DakkaDakka -- has not met or spoken to any of the Resin Forge staff. His ability to answer any questions is limited by what the RF people will tell him by email.

Well that is what he is telling us, I want to believe but he is from FT Worth which is just a hop and a skip from Dallas. That aside, If AJ doesnt have the answers, it can be construed that he has not been told the answers. He has indicated several times that he has asked the questions already. Any evasion is not on his part...

To be fair, AJ has posted images from his personal facebook account from a wargaming convention with another person in it (faces included!). He does have an "ancient" facebook stemming from the time just after non '.edu' emails were allowed, and images on his facebook match up with images on the exiled miniatures blog (which hasn't been updated since november, chop chop on that Aj ). We also have Dakkanauts (AustonT) that are able to corroborate similar avatars across various fora. Also his twitter account is older than all of this shenanigans (again which match up with his fb account and his blog). I don't doubt that AJ is who he says he is, I also don't doubt that he's just going to be used in a similar vein as the people from the miniwargaming conversions blog. If not, then it shouldn't be an issue and AJ is the one that will help us get this gak resolved.

for what it's worth, I have physical friends who know AJ physically, so yes he is a real person, and yes he lives in Ft. Worth, and yes he games at Evolution Games and at Area 51. Although I think he is being conned by RF as MajorTom was in the past....

I think most have discounted the idea of AJ as an alias. I can't speak for all, but it's pretty clear that he's his own man.

Warhamster, I completely agree... I've shared some info with him that will hopefully show what has happened to everyone before him that has fulfilled a similar role, and how Daniel has deceived and used those who did it previously. Might be worth giving your friends a heads up about this... sometimes a real live person can talk more sense into someone than a stranger over the internet can!

Edit: motyak, it's clear he's "his own man", as you say... just as AridMonk, Redscorps, Lucky No. 5, and others were before him. All the more reason for him to look up the information and contacts I've shared with him, and get the truth from those "on the inside" of why working with Daniel is a really, really, REALLY bad idea...

My point (which was poorly made) was that he is only the messenger, and he is willing to engage here on Dakka. Dont shoot him cause he cant get the answers you want and because the owner(s)* are unwilling to engage directly.

*Since the ownership of the company is what is in doubt I have left that unclear... I alledge nothing....

I agree with Ammobunkerdean's point.

At the same time, if Mandelbaum is not willing to give ExiledMiniatures answers to the questions people are asking, it seems useless for people to talk to him.

 RiTides wrote:

Edit: motyak, it's clear he's "his own man", as you say... just as AridMonk, Redscorps, Lucky No. 5, and others were before him. All the more reason for him to look up the information and contacts I've shared with him, and get the truth from those "on the inside" of why working with Daniel is a really, really, REALLY bad idea...

My word yes, I just assumed that his PM conversation with MajorTom would drill that point home pretty solidly, enough that my adding to it would almost be unnecessary

Guys, for now I think AJ is doing his best to get to the bottom of things himself, let's just cut him some slack for the time being. Going after Mandelbaum is ok in my book because we know what he has done and that he is a pathological liar. We have no such reason to assume the same of AJ just yet so even though he currently runs with a shady crowd, let's not put him in the same boat as DM just yet ok?

Now, last I checked, it is Thursday....

I maintain, 66 pages later, that Kim is more than welcome to create an account here and speak directly with us. There is absolutely nothing stopping her from doing that, other than her unwillingness to do so.

If Daniel is truly out, then she needs to address that directly.

She also needs to just admit that certain things were lies used to cover RF's ass i.e. past business credentials and HH pics, unless those items materialize in the next day.

We're not asking for the world here. We are asking for either verifiable proof of the claims RF has made, or an admission that such claims were lies.

I don't think RF wants to post anywhere they can't delete and ban everything around them that raises valid questions... don't hold your breath Aerethan...

But yes, if you are listening Stephakim, 3 questions need answering to at least start to put this to bed for all of us, as they are unanswered, I repeat them, it must never be forgotten or misunderstood that RF is completely unwilling to answer very normal and obvious questions any client has a right to know, and that a legitimate business would never hesitate to answer - -

- Please provide RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally. Either you have it or you don't, you don't need weeks to figure an answer out.
- Please definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corroborative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. Black out the personal info, just provide the evidence that should be there regardless.
- Please provide the alleged previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. This was something you yourself publicly stated you had, and the number exists to verify your legal conduct. Please provide it, with a date. This is an obligation of a Texas business. Either that or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.

This is not spam people. It is perfectly on point, and every time the question is repeated it is because these points remain unanswered, and they are important points that should call into question the practices of this company to any rational person. At least enough to look into it further. Please remember there are new readers to this thread all the time and they need to know what the big issues are for us, as opposed to the spin and misdirection RF use to villainize the victims.

I will note, that there is not a Microsoft or Mac consumer operating system that doesn't come with a basic photo editing program built in. For Windows, it's MS Paint.

The only way one could NOT have that is to intentionally uninstall it, which is pointless as it takes up virtually no space.

I don't think anyone was buying that anyways... even his supporters would raise an eyebrow at that... .

There is still a portion of the population who will dis-believe that the sky is falling, in spite of seeing the decending fireballs, just because chicken little is the one saying it. Most conspiracy theorists fall into this category. "The sky is falling because the govm't wants to take our guns away"... etc...

Edit: There will be those people on both sides of any issue...

I understand the community's desire to get answers from AJ, and to get them yesterday, but please remember that he is only a moderator with Resin Forge. He is not a part of the company as best as I can tell, and he is an intermediary between us here and Resin Forge so there will always be a delay in communication as he must get his information from Resin Forge.

That being said I am hoping for some answers myself to many of the questions raised.

AJ does not have much info at the moment, and I believe him. DC, I think it is best to interpret any questions as being directed at RF at the end of the day, with the hope AJ will prove to be a useful intermediary to convey the information... he will only be the messenger, not the source, he can't answer with info he doesn't have.

Well, it's now lunchtime in Dallas, and still no sign of this 'video' or any form of statement.

I hate to say it, but I think we can add AJ to a long list of well meaning,nice chaps who have been duped by MandleBonder.

If it does go up, I'm willing to bet it won't be a video and it won't be til real, real late... wouldn't stay up for it Art... Mandelbaum has a pretty thorough history of failing to live up to or modifying his bigger promises at the last minute afterall. At least when they involve information indicating he is actually running a legal company for the last 7 months.

just looking at the resin forge website and noticed that the host company is a english one, is that a common thing or could it have been done to make tracing them hard? also i think its quite ironic that the host company shows its registration number and pictures of all the employees on its webpage. On the off chance i've emailed them about the situation and asked them who owns the webpage i don't expect they will answer but who knows.

Wild, that is only the company who made the website. Or the engine that runs the site.

This is the WHOIS entry for the site.

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Registrar: 123Reg/Webfusion
URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk/domain-names/

This domain is provided by 123-reg. We're the UK's largest
registrar with over 3 million domains sold. We also provide
cheap, easy website creation.
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Domain Name: RESINFORGE.COM
Creation Date: 2012-11-13
Expiry Date: 2014-11-13
Nameserver: ns.123-reg.co.uk
Nameserver: ns2.123-reg.co.uk
Registrant Name: Create .net
Registrant Company: Create Internet Ltd
Registrant Address: Unit 5 Westergate Business Centre
Registrant Address: Brighton
Registrant Address: East Sussex
Registrant Address: BN2 4QN
Registrant Address: GB
Administrative Name: Create .net
Administrative Company: Create Internet Ltd
Administrative Address: Unit 5 Westergate Business Centre
Administrative Address: Brighton
Administrative Address: East Sussex
Administrative Address: BN2 4QN
Administrative Address: GB
Administrative Email: domains@create.net
Administrative Tel: +44.1273006666
Technical Name: Webfusion Limited
Technical Company: Webfusion Limited
Technical Address: 5 Roundwood Avenue
Technical Address: Stockley Park
Technical Address: Uxbridge
Technical Address: UB11 1FF
Technical Address: GB
Technical Email: services@123-reg.co.uk
Technical Tel: +44.8712309525

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They likely used a template from either the hosting company (http://www.123-reg.co.uk/) or Create to make the site.

I was just wondering wouldn't it have been cheaper to use a us company rather than a uk one( the uk is more expensive for most things) and since they charge in pounds it would have been clear they were in the uk so i wonder if there would be some sort of deliberate reason for it

Domain Name: RESINFORGE.COM
Creation Date: 2012-11-13
Expiry Date: 2014-11-13

also could the reason that he's(she's) trying to keep the business going is that have to pay for the website till nov 2014 and they can't get out of it

They can 'get out of it', just because they have the domain til 2014 doesn't mean they have to use it. It costs next to nothing.

More importantly, Thursday night, 8 pm... no video... no shock lol

Moderator edit: This isn't appropriate even as a joke.

I was actually coming back to edit it. Given the content of several of someone lies it made a certain amount of sense, but it could certainly be misinterpreted.

I DEMAND ANSWERS!



From MajorTom...questions to follow.

wha?

Edit: it showed up

Here's the video;
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxM28u4VOuQrVUc2ODY4OVhzWGc/edit?usp=drive_web

Don't have audio atm.

But hiding behind a mask doesn't inspire confidence in a company.

I'm watching it after brekkie.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WoW!

Well. That was 100% useless.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Don't have audio atm.

But hiding behind a mask doesn't inspire confidence in a company.

I agree wholeheartedly. And the audio just adds to the laughability of the production!

...

What the hell was that???

...

I don't even know what... I don't know know what to sa - .... WOW.

lol

All my questions are definitely put to rest lol... that was just bizarre...

That was weird... and pretty pointless.

so now we wait for the next meltdown

"Mumble, mumble, I'm legit, mumble, *bird squak*, mumble, We're getting our Texas tax license, mumble, *bird squak*, Kronk is a very handsome man, *bird squak*"

No Tax ID, no proof of appearing at FW event, no proof of any kind that this person is running Resin Forge.

All this video shows is:

1. Daniel can get some chick to wear a mask and mumble on camera.
2. Kronk is a very handsome man.
3. Nothing else.

Well, I'm glad I'm relaxing with some bourbon or I think I'd be upset about being lied to about a useful video.

Yet I am sure there will be plenty of people defending their good fight...

 kronk wrote:
"Mumble, mumble, I'm legit, mumble, *bird squak*, mumble, We're getting our Texas tax license, mumble, *bird squak*, Kronk is a very handsome man, *bird squak*"

No Tax ID, no proof of appearing at FW event, no proof of any kind that this person is running Resin Forge.

All this video shows is:

1. Daniel can get some chick to wear a mask and mumble on camera.
2. Kronk is a very handsome man.
3. Nothing else.

Well, I'm glad I'm relaxing with some bourbon or I think I'd be upset about being lied to about a useful video.

They had a platform, with everyone watching, just to come out and fall flat like makes no sense to me?!
And how they kept mentioning kronk was also unnerving.......

Did she refer to Kim in the third person? It sounded like it about half way thru, but I'm not in a place I can play it and hear it real well.

Was anyone actually expecting the video to answer anything?

At least they gave us a laugh out of it.

I had a real hard time hearing her, the audio is terrible.
Also those birds are annoying.
This video tells us nothing apart from the fact that she is a real woman.
The voice does sound the same as the voice messages left however, so we can confirm that.

Apart from that, it is just wierd.

Just for the record, and to point out, this video was supposed to put an end to our concerns, yet failed to address the only 3 questions we care about -

- Please provide RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally. Either you have it or you don't, you don't need weeks to figure an answer out.
- Please definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corroborative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. Black out the personal info, just provide the evidence that should be there regardless.
- Please provide the alleged previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. This was something you yourself publicly stated you had, and the number exists to verify your legal conduct. Please provide it, with a date. This is an obligation of a Texas business. Either that or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.

Also StephaKim/DM script, it is extremely, extremely poor form to bring up how you 'took care of Ken' after you 'borrowed' his money for several years without his permission. Paying him back is not a gold star, it is the absolute bare minimum you could possibly do to make it up to him. It by no means makes up for the harrasment, headache and runaround you gave him previously, up to and including calling him a liar.

How dare you use his name to support your own, that is absolutely and completely morally bankrupt.

I do lose my bet that you wouldn't make a video though, I admit being wrong there. And what a video it was!

I'm really thrown off by the mask...

 Alfndrate wrote:
I'm really thrown off by the mask...

I admit, I laughed out loud and made everyone in the room look at me oddly when I saw the mask...

Well....

I'm logging off before I tell Miss Kim (or Mrs. Kim Mandelbaum) what I think about her video while "relaxed" on bourbon.

Night all.

Why are you guys hating on the Mardi Gras theme of the video?

Jeez louise, you try to show a little creativity and just get lambasted for it.

This answered nothing.

Not a damn thing. I've had toenail clippings that were more useful than that video.


I can confirm that is the same person that called me a few times, but she's reading a script here much like it sounded she was in the original voicemail I posted.

AJ, make it known that this is unacceptable.

Why are you waiting for papers from the state registration can be done online.

Transfer of assets between corporations need paperwork and tax clearance you cannot simply take over inventory from one corporation to the other.

I really trust you hiding behind the mask now. This is one of the craziest thing I have ever seen.

Oh come on guys,
you cannot say that you don't find that mask strangley appealing

AJ, meet your 'friend', I do hope you wash your hands of this mess and walk away sooner than later...

Well that was...something. It exists, I guess? That's about the only positive to come out of this video stuff. But who really expected more

I haven't done so yet, but Welcome AJ! I hope after you're through(or more when they are through with you, IMHO) with RF you'll stick around!

I'd love to hear AJ's thoughts on the released video? Do you think it's acceptable, or hell, even a step towards anything promised?

Honestly the script was probably so she didn't stumble over her words, as someone that has made recordings in the past, having something to help you along can help you out, it's when you can ween yourself to just an outline and not a script is when you can really start performing in front of a mic. I don't knock Kim for doing that, I knock her for the mask, and the lack of questions answered in the video.

No offense Kim, but saying that you will post your business registration information once it's finished doesn't answer the claim of RF being a legit company before your non-hostile takover, and you don't really talk about the prior actions of Daniel Mandelbaum, a man who is "no longer" with your company, but his known involvement over the past 2 months is most definitely something you should have discussed.

So, since she hasn't settled the company transfer, she's going to stop selling via PM until then, right?

Right?

A reply for MajorTom

I did not owe Ken anything. A co owner was claimed to have. I personally paid Ken when sales were not up as the drama made them crash. I have every right to bring it up as I had every right to not do anything at all.

I do bring it up because I DID help him and I DID help the community for someone else's mistake/problem/whatever.

And now Mr tom goes and once again doesn't even call me my name. He combines it like its all a joke. Just like every reply to it. A shouldn't even waste my time with you people. Resin Forge is doing just fine again so actually, no more updates. Bye guys!

Please post as per usual.

 kronk wrote:
So, since she hasn't settled the company transfer, she's going to stop selling via PM until then, right?

Right?

I'm sure DM will take peoples money no matter how you reach him!

 AduroT wrote:
Did she refer to Kim in the third person? It sounded like it about half way thru, but I'm not in a place I can play it and hear it real well.

i heard that, as well, and thought, "who is this woman then???"...
not exactly a good way to inspire confidence...

come on, Kim, you can do better than that...
the mask is understandable, if you are worried about harassment , but the script, and lack of any kind of clear point, are not gonna help you...

cheers
jah

Mrs S looked over my shoulder at that video with the masked lady and asked if I was on a sex chat site...

What a farce. What an elaborate nonsensical wrangling.

Mandelbaum, the jig is up, you have run out of any reasonable defense and have slipped from the sublime to the ridiculous.

 AduroT wrote:

A reply for MajorTom

I did not owe Ken anything. A co owner was claimed to have. I personally paid Ken when sales were not up as the drama made them crash. I have every right to bring it up as I had every right to not do anything at all.

I do bring it up because I DID help him and I DID help the community for someone else's mistake/problem/whatever.

And now Mr tom goes and once again doesn't even call me my name. He combines it like its all a joke. Just like every reply to it. A shouldn't even waste my time with you people. Resin Forge is doing just fine again so actually, no more updates. Bye guys!

Please post as per usual.

Lady, Grow a freakin' pair, make an account and speak for your damn self, FFS!!!

If you're not DM, you would have no reason not to.
Since you are, you know damn good and well once you do, we'll catch you, as usual.

 alarmingrick wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

A reply for MajorTom

I did not owe Ken anything. A co owner was claimed to have. I personally paid Ken when sales were not up as the drama made them crash. I have every right to bring it up as I had every right to not do anything at all.

I do bring it up because I DID help him and I DID help the community for someone else's mistake/problem/whatever.

And now Mr tom goes and once again doesn't even call me my name. He combines it like its all a joke. Just like every reply to it. A shouldn't even waste my time with you people. Resin Forge is doing just fine again so actually, no more updates. Bye guys!

Please post as per usual.

Lady, Grow a freakin' pair, make an account and speak for your damn self, FFS!!!

If you're not DM, you would have no reason not to.
Since you are, you know damn good and well once you do, we'll catch you, as usual.

Lets just not post any more of these stupid replies. Not-Daniel can register and talk here, if she won't then she doesn't even deserve a voice.

Someone more tech savvy than I, please save the video, as I can't imagine it will be left up for long.

Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe that...

I agree that no one should be speaking on behalf of Kim anymore. She's a big girl, and can interwebz on her own.

Well she said she's not going to reply to Dakka anymore again...

 AduroT wrote:
Well she said she's not going to reply to Dakka anymore again...

How much you want to bet that won't be the last time you type that.......again.

 alarmingrick wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Well she said she's not going to reply to Dakka anymore again...

How much you want to bet that won't be the last time you type that.......again.

Well seeing as they've washed their hands of us a few times already, I'd reckon not much?

I will not take that bet, even from someone with such an awesome name.

 AduroT wrote:

A reply for MajorTom

I did not owe Ken anything. A co owner was claimed to have. I personally paid Ken when sales were not up as the drama made them crash. I have every right to bring it up as I had every right to not do anything at all.

I do bring it up because I DID help him and I DID help the community for someone else's mistake/problem/whatever.

And now Mr tom goes and once again doesn't even call me my name. He combines it like its all a joke. Just like every reply to it. A shouldn't even waste my time with you people. Resin Forge is doing just fine again so actually, no more updates. Bye guys!

Please post as per usual.

Fine, I'll play this game:

Kim, you cannot distance yourself as if it is nothing to do with you. Daniel was a co-owner of your company, you cannot say 'his debt' when he was your partner, you took on the debt of his reputation and past deeds when you chose to go into business with him. Most especially, since at this point it is quite clear you did not register your company yet and you were selling illegally together, you are part and parcel of the problem. I feel it is fair to say that at this point as you have refused every oppurtunity to disprove that with something you should have sitting next to you in the office. You don't get to viciously defend him and take things personally one moment and then get to act as if you barely know the guy and have nothing more to do with him the next. Either address his history and the responsibility you chose to take on by entering into business with him or shut up with your 'former owner' dog and pony show. You have most definitely known him for years and years, so you know damn well what he did and what it would mean if his name got out. Don't play the babe in the woods routine with me. You want Ken to be Mandelbaum's problem and you only want the credit for it? Here's a hint, don't go into business with a thief and then expect points for it.

Secondly I most definitely do not think this is a joke. I think it is pathetic, and very, very serious. Do you think we watch for Mandelbaum because this is fun? It's not. Fun would be seeing him brought to justice by the authorities for all his crazy bs, lies, aliases and fraud. 'Alleged' of course. That would be fun. Watching you and your company flop around like a landed fish puking lies and evasion out into the community and harrassing people is no joke. Taking advantage of well meaning people, as I believe AJ to be, is not a joke. Your customers taking your word for it when you can't answer any question that would legitimize your business or show you are/would be accountable legally is not a joke. No, this is not a joke at all.

I do not agree that this is a waste of time either. Every non-answer bs insanity statement you put out shows more and more people what kind of people you are. Cry victim til you are blue in the face, by all means, it won't change the fact that you are incapable of honesty or transparancy. Keep dodging those three questions. Keep hiding your face and reading your scripts. Keep saying you don't care about what we say and that's it, but the fact is you break your word so often it doesn't even phase me in the slightest.

Registered business with 3 owners? Lie. Unless you put up your registration number with all 3 names on it.
Going to HH weekender? Lie.
Kim Hernandez banned from Dakka before we even knew her name? Lie.
Your name? Lie.
Going out of business? Lie.
Not answering us anymore? Lie.
Going to answer questions and prove you are legal? Lie.

Fake firm sending CandD? True.
Photoshopped paypal invoice for that CandD? True.
Fraudster Daniel Mandelbaum secretly behind the company for first 7 months? True.
Harassment and misuse of clients personal information? True.
Switching from a webcart to taking orders via PM so there is no paper trail making it more difficult for clients to call you to account in the event of a problem? True.
Endless lies about what we are asking for? True.
Refusal to post anywhere you can't edit or ban every last comment? True.
Obfuscation and misdirections about your relationship to Daniel and the fact that Daniel provided all conversions to RF? True.
Calling him your husband while you threw a hissy-fit on FW's FB page? True.
Trying to get someone who made a comment on your FB page fired by using their personal information to call their place of work? True.

So save me your protestations that we will just not accept all your 'proof' when you offer none. Save your crying that we are saying RF is capable of crazy things when DM's entire history is absolutely ripe with aliases, outrageous lies and disappearing. You don't want people to doubt everything you say even down to who you are? Don't associate with the biggest liar the community you are trying to do business in has ever known! Are you insane? Can you not understand what you took on when you partnered with a person like that?

No. I have seen nothing to make me believe DM is really gone, I'm sorry. All of this is exactly the same kind of Gak he pulls every time. It's even in the same bloody order. He changed pictures to a bizarre 50 second video this time I suppose, but it's all the same.

We cannot make RF go out of business. If you have clients willing to support you good for you. But the second your bs excuses start, and people start saying their packages are going missing or that they didn't get what they payed for, we will be on you like stink on a monkey don't you doubt it. If that never happens, believe it or not, that isn't a bad thing.

Seeing DM brought to justice for what he as done would be great. But the only thing that we are actually concerned with, the only thing we want and are acting to prevent, is to make sure not one more victim is added to DM's long ledger. If that is all that is accomplished, that is more than enough.

Well said Tom!

Proof required by this forum and LEGALLY REQUIRED IN THE STATE YOU DO BUSINESS IN:

1. Current (State of Texas) business license,Legally required to be physically displayed next to the cash register in a brick and mortar store. (not a Federal Tax ID number)
2. Proof that you went to the HH weekender
3. Previous Business License number showing all three owners.

There were the answers I was looking for Tom



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Also:
Most. Bizarre. Video. Ever!

Well that was a waste of time and hasn't answered any questions. Hmmm wonder why it's not been posted on the RF facebook page. Lol. Also I do wonder where AJ has disappeared to, would have thought he would have linked it here and on RF facebook page and posted some answers. Yes I do feel a bit sorry for the bloke. But RF please stop wasting time and answer the questions please.

Hey everyone, sorry for the late reply had a long day at the store and car problems after.

I'd just like to take a moment to inform all of you that I will not be posting in this thread for a while.
It is not that I am not interested in seeing justice done and resolving the issue, but that I have no new information to share at this time.
I will say though, if I obtain any information I will share it with the community.
I will still moderate the facebook page and manage posts and content to the site.

I will however be an active user on these forums, namely in the project logs. Expect a log in the next few days.
If you have any need of me, please feel free to PM me.

Thank you to those who defended my identity and warmly welcomed to Dakka.

Best of luck
Happy modeling
Aj Thornton

So you have no comment on the video and the promises made prior to it's release.

Can I ask if you are sticking with RF? Or are you out.

And if that Dark Angel (or DA successor of some kind) that is your DP is the level of work I can expect in that log, you have a viewer haha

In all fairness lol, what is he supposed to say about that video... what is anyone gonna say about that video other than 'wtf' lol

I doubt that format or information were AJ's idea. Let's not focus on him in regards to processing the video as it sidetracks from the issue that RF's owners cannot answer any question that shows their claims of legitimate and legal business as obligated by Texas law, or prove they went to the HH weekender as they made such a fuss over (and initially tried to bamboozle people into thinking they had for all intents and purposes unlimited Fulgrims guaranteed and trying to pre-sell a product they had no right or way to promise).

I've been following this thread for a while now.
THAT video finally moved me to comment. Wow...awesome.there are a few things that really stuck out.
1. the mask - whilst I understand why it's there it doesn't really promote trust.
2. why is there a british flag there in the background.

Quite, quite mad.

I have the video on file. Where could I upload it safely without worry of a DMCA is a question I need to ask.

This needs to be kept up

I can only think that this video is meant as a joke. They couldn't be seriously think that anybody would be satisfied with it.

I was actually trying to keep an open mind about this entire affair - I'm always looking for somewhere I can buy bits, after all, and the on-going, slow and soul-crushing process of converting all of my zealots to counts-as IG infantry requires an awful lot of DKoK lasguns.

After that video, though, there's no possible way I'd ever shop from her store. Anyone who isn't prepared to put their own face next to their product - is so utterly unwilling to be customer-facing - has no understanding of commerce or consumer-relations.

It's a diabolical approach to salespersonship, in the broader sense, as it presents a fait accompli to any potential customer: "If you wish us to sell you our products, you are expected to trust us with your money; we do not trust you with any means by which we, as the proprietors, could be identified".

If you want to run a successful business, you want to be recognised. You want your business's name to be synonymous with your likeness, and you want customers to trust you as an individual. And for them to trust you, you must be willing to bite the bullet and admit, openly, that your good name is tied inextricably to your company's.

This is especially important in comparatively small, community-structure consumer bases - where reputation is the be-all and end-all. But it's equally important for larger endeavours - does Kim think Virgin and it's dozens of spin-outs would have been as successful if Richard Branson had donned Christine Daaé's mask every time the BBC interviewed him?

Now, in the interests of neutrality, I should state that I've no personal experience with the activities of Mr Mandelbaum and, as such, can't in good conscience judge him. I have met others who have gone to such alleged lengths to conceal malfeasance, however, so similarly I don't dismiss the charges levelled against him out of hand.

That being the case, my advice to the new, sole proprietor of RF would be to begin, promptly, an earnest effort to rehabilitate the company's image - prove to customers that you are worth trusting, and that you are willing to bind your personal reputation to your company's success or otherwise. If you're unwilling to do that, you'll hamstring your company's commercial performance - because instead of being described to friends as "the new management - she really turned the company around", you'll be dismissed as "the mad bint with the mask and the birds - don't ask".

Bullockist wrote:
I've been following this thread for a while now.
THAT video finally moved me to comment. Wow...awesome.there are a few things that really stuck out.
1. the mask - whilst I understand why it's there it doesn't really promote trust.
2. why is there a british flag there in the background.

Maybe she's a loyalist. Or maybe she just needs it in other actor projects that she participates, seeing as how she's recorded the video in a theatrical dressing room with costumes.

Allegedly.

Wow.
I mean, that was worth waiting for!

58 seconds of precisely bugger all.

No reassurances, no bright new future for RF explained, just a bemasked woman mumbling with birds tweeting in the background d on a dimly lit grainy less than a minute video.

Do they think we're complete fools? After all, the video wasn't meant for their customers (if it was, it would have been posted on the FB page at least, and would have contained less references to Kronk, which by the way is creepy in itself) - the content seems to be almost self destruction. Just a question - whilst I see its a google doc, who was it posted to?
As for AJ - well, he lasted long as the moderating voice of reason! The poor sod's probably wondering what he's got himself mixed up in right now and has my sincere sympathy.
Daniel - GIVE IT UP. Seriously, the more you forge on ahead the worse it gets. I'm not sure who KimSteph is (girlfriend, wife, ex wife) but this is too much. Have the good graces to know when the jig is up.

Has anyone considered posting the video or askign about the video on the RF Facebook page to see their responce ?

That video was video response I have seen for a long time.

I'd post the video, but I'm blocked from RF's page

I'd post it but I don't want to get banned... makes for interesting reading lol

You could still read if you're banned, just not post. I do wonder what her reaction would be to posting a link to something she made for Resin Forge on Resin Forge's page.

On the video link(google drive), i was unable to comment. anyone able to comment?

Well I have probed them about the lack of the video on the facebook page, and just waiting to see what her response will be to that.

 Wolf wrote:
Well I have probed them about the lack of the video on the facebook page, and just waiting to see what her response will be to that.

Keep us updated

 MajorTom11 wrote:


We cannot make RF go out of business. If you have clients willing to support you good for you.

On this point however, for those who are concerned about the legitimacy of a business, if a company or group of individuals do not have a tax ID nor have registered their business with the state OR believe information given to a business is being misused, there are steps to take in order to raise concerns.

Namely contacting IRS offices or state departments of commerce and/or business to question the validity of a business. Even without an EIN, in some cases a business must file taxable income or be registered with a state department.

Especially in this case where a person or persons behind a business are shady at best and your concerned about dealing with them (especially if you have ordered from them to which now they hold your information such as address and method of payment), I would be concerned.

We cannot make them go out of business Warone. We have no control over what the IRS or anyone else does with the information. Just like the local police, he may be too small potatoes or the community too niche to bother with.

My point remains, you can't honestly think it is the first time your point was raised lol...

 MajorTom11 wrote:
We cannot make them go out of business Warone.

I agree.

But if a business is questionable in practice and in execution, a person should feel that it is in their best interest to make sure that their information is protected or that the company they deal with is legit.

It could lead to a business going out of business, but the first step is to find out if a business is legit.

Asking/listening to an alleged frauster/masked woman about a legitimate business is probably not productive. So the most reliable source of that information or at least concern about said information is state and federal level.

We waited 4 days for a dress up video about randomness that answered nothing.

 AduroT wrote:
Here's the video;
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxM28u4VOuQrVUc2ODY4OVhzWGc/edit?usp=drive_web

Link seems broken: I only see some kidknapper style video where I can't make out the demands because of all the screetching

You can search Texas businesses online here, but you need a resident address in the USA.

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/corp/sosda/

I'm still surprised that this totally legit video and message is nowhere to be found on their Facebook site. Can't believe that Kim wouldn't want to share this profound message with her followers...

 Kilkrazy wrote:
You can search Texas businesses online here, but you need a resident address in the USA.

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/corp/sosda/

I have searched the Texas State taxable entity system about 2 weeks ago (without having a US residency btw, the information is freely available) for any name I could think of related to RF or any of the current/previous owner(s) and nothing appeared. Unless they are an entity that is DBA "Resin Forge Store" then Resin Forge was never registered with the state of Texas to do business. If they are DBA "Resin Forge Store" (or some variation) then there never ever should have been a reason to not provide a legal entity name. It gives absolutely zero personal information. It merely allows the business to be searched for in the registries.

For those asking for a Registration number, it will not provide you with owner names; merely that the business is registered as "insert name here". Since there is/was no registered business showing up under any conceivable name related to Resin Forge or it's current/previous owners .. well, see what I already said.

Kim : To state you are going to "release a video to address concerns" and then provide that .. pile of gak .. gives simply yet another "promise" that has been reneged on. The list of lies grows substantially and at this point is quite frankly unrecoverable. You have customers though, so I guess it's all good. Go, register, IGNORE the haters and do business legally and properly and you just might break even.

Warone;
Read back through the thread. Amongst there is the conversation on just how 'legitimate' the 2k likes are for RF (here's a clue: they're easily bought).
There's nothing legitimate about MandleBonder in the slightest.

I'm legitimately afraid to watch the video, after reading everyone's reaction to it, lol.

 Sidstyler wrote:
I'm legitimately afraid to watch the video, after reading everyone's reaction to it, lol.

Just don't have your earphones too loud. The birds..

Nothing to be afraid of, Sid.

It was just weird, didn't answer anything, and poorly done.

Kim/Steph,

- Please provide RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally. Either you have it or you don't, you don't need weeks to figure an answer out.
- Please definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corroborative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. Black out the personal info, just provide the evidence that should be there regardless.
- Please provide the alleged previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. This was something you yourself publicly stated you had, and the number exists to verify your legal conduct. Please provide it, with a date. This is an obligation of a Texas business. Either that or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.

Edit: Also, the birds were really loud, La Petite Gamine, who (allegedly) ADMITTED on Forge World's Facebook page that she was Daniel Mandelbaum's wife. Or was that another lie (allegedly), Kim/Steph?

 Art Steventon wrote:
Warone;
Read back through the thread. Amongst there is the conversation on just how 'legitimate' the 2k likes are for RF (here's a clue: they're easily bought).
There's nothing legitimate about MandleBonder in the slightest.

To be fair, some of those likes are legit-I personally know two people who like the place, hung out with one of them last night. Forgot to warn him too.

Did anyone else hear the kid in the background at approximately 52 seconds? Like right as she sort of shakes her head and quickly ends the video.

Also I finally created an account so I could post

Well they did keep their promise I suppose. A video was uploaded. I didn't see it addressing many legitimate questions though.

Why are you all complaining about the video? Seriously guys, do you hate birds or something? I thought it was a great example of the beautiful sounds of birds chirping in captivity. They should submit it to National Geographic or the Discovery channel.

Guys can we post a warning on the video ???? I watched it before i had gone through your posts and spat a large quantity of tea over my computer

 Savagecoyote wrote:
Guys can we post a warning on the video ???? I watched it before i had gone through your posts and spat a large quantity of tea over my computer

WARNING!! The bird in this video makes extremely nonsensical sounds that can cause confusion and irritation!! Also there is some kind of screeching animal in the background.

 Lint wrote:

 Savagecoyote wrote:
Guys can we post a warning on the video ???? I watched it before i had gone through your posts and spat a large quantity of tea over my computer

WARNING!! The bird in this video makes extremely nonsensical sounds that can cause confusion and irritation!! Also there is some kind of screeching animal in the background.

Oh wow, that made me chuckle quite a bit.

I can't even take RF seriously anymore, but maybe that's what their going for.

motyak wrote:

And if that Dark Angel (or DA successor of some kind) that is your DP is the level of work I can expect in that log.

You can; his stuff is pretty top notch. When I get home tonight I will PM you his Photobucket.

 csMalthius wrote:
Did anyone else hear the kid in the background at approximately 52 seconds? Like right as she sort of shakes her head and quickly ends the video.

Also I finally created an account so I could post

I noticed. In fact, I was reading through the last few pages of the thread, surprised that nobody mentioned this.

So, here's what we know/believe we know from the video and before:

Before:
Confirmed that Stephanie/Kim was involved with MandelBonder at one time or another.
Painting/Modelling supplies in the background or what looks to be a very large closet or very small room.
We have a claim that DanMatt's son (as Matthew Bonder) died, as did his ("Matthew's) wife.
We have a woman who has STATED ON FW'S SITE that she is DanMatt's wife.
We have a video that shows a slender brunette with glasses (if you watch the eyes, you'll see) that appear to be a STRONG prescription, as her eyes look magnified/way too large for her head (That is not in insult, just an observation.
A video with birds chirping in the background of a video we believe to have been made by a woman whose Facebook page has a TON of bird focused things posted.
Near the end of the video, we can hear a child being loud (as children do) from a distance (likely a different room), at which point she hurriedly finishes the video, appearing to be cutting herself off. This gives me the impression that the kid was saying something she did not want us to hear or that she was worried that we'd hear a voice in the background she/they did not want us to hear.

I am NOT surprised by the mask. Had she not used it, we could have likely taken a screen shot and done a reverse Google search for images that looked like her, thereby discovering more details about her and DanMatt.


Eric

 MagickalMemories wrote:

 csMalthius wrote:
Did anyone else hear the kid in the background at approximately 52 seconds? Like right as she sort of shakes her head and quickly ends the video.

Also I finally created an account so I could post

I noticed. In fact, I was reading through the last few pages of the thread, surprised that nobody mentioned this.

So, here's what we know/believe we know from the video and before:

Before:
Confirmed that Stephanie/Kim was involved with MandelBonder at one time or another.
Painting/Modelling supplies in the background or what looks to be a very large closet or very small room.
We have a claim that DanMatt's son (as Matthew Bonder) died, as did his ("Matthew's) wife.
We have a woman who has STATED ON FW'S SITE that she is DanMatt's wife.
We have a video that shows a slender brunette with glasses (if you watch the eyes, you'll see) that appear to be a STRONG prescription, as her eyes look magnified/way too large for her head (That is not in insult, just an observation.
A video with birds chirping in the background of a video we believe to have been made by a woman whose Facebook page has a TON of bird focused things posted.
Near the end of the video, we can hear a child being loud (as children do) from a distance (likely a different room), at which point she hurriedly finishes the video, appearing to be cutting herself off. This gives me the impression that the kid was saying something she did not want us to hear or that she was worried that we'd hear a voice in the background she/they did not want us to hear.

I am NOT surprised by the mask. Had she not used it, we could have likely taken a screen shot and done a reverse Google search for images that looked like her, thereby discovering more details about her and DanMatt.


Eric

Forgot the Union Jack in the background ... What a failure ....

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
Forgot the Union Jack in the background ... What a failure ....

Why is this a failure? between me and my housemates we had a few union jacks, an old glory, a chinese flag, a german flag (and while I didn't approve of these, several german flags from WW2), and the hammer and sickle... We're all American.

 ExiledMiniatures wrote:
Hey everyone, sorry for the late reply had a long day at the store and car problems after.

I'd just like to take a moment to inform all of you that I will not be posting in this thread for a while.
It is not that I am not interested in seeing justice done and resolving the issue, but that I have no new information to share at this time.
I will say though, if I obtain any information I will share it with the community.
I will still moderate the facebook page and manage posts and content to the site.

I will however be an active user on these forums, namely in the project logs. Expect a log in the next few days.
If you have any need of me, please feel free to PM me.

Thank you to those who defended my identity and warmly welcomed to Dakka.

Best of luck
Happy modeling
Aj Thornton

Hi Aj, You do seem to be a nice bloke, so I am sorry to say the following.....

Before you disappear. As the person who is now linked with RF and bought us the news of Kim doing the video to help clear a few things up and a new start to the RF company. Can you comment on said video?

I see no reason why you can't make a comment. Unless youre making a run for it.