Aerethan wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I saw that too, it could be as simple as another Stephanie Hernandez gettin stalked by an ex bf or something. Could it relate to this? Yeah, but we.don't have any evidence since it doesn't list the known suspect.

Edit: I'm an idiot... I have a message from Jason
.. Stephanie and Kim are one in the same her name is Stephanie Kimberly Hernandez, she at least dated Daniel... *flies* to the Google maps!

screen shots? direct quote? I am need details!

I emailed it to your hot mail, I can't upload and link it atm. You're free to do so.

Someone needs to do some kind of interactive timeline... even before this outing I was having trouble keeping track of everything

Yeah, just looking back a year there are 4 police reports for Stephanie Hernandez with everyone having a different age.

Well we have the right "Kim". Confirmation that Kim is actually Stephanie, and is the same Stephanie from Susan's obit page.

We have no reason to believe that Daniel is out of the picture here.

NOTE: these uploaded in the wrong order, read bottom up.

 MagickalMemories wrote:
Very minor quibble... but I want to set it straight (even if I'm the one who is incorrect).

@ MT11
You said "Matt Bonder's" "Wife" died, then his "daughter" did.

I have one statement of correction and one question on it.

1) It wasn't a daughter. It was a Son. I remember this specifically, as the "Son" was named Erin (this is how he spelled the son's name). I remember that specifically, as [a] I have a daughter with that name and [b] wondered, but did not ask -as I was a believer at that time- why he spelled it like a girl's name.

2) Question... Didn't "Matt" lose his "Son" then his "Wife" in the stories he told? I could be misremembering, but that is how I THOUGHT it went.

Don't want to be pedantic... but the guy will latch on any inaccuracy to show how we are "lying," and I want to be sure that the record is correctly reflected.

Thanks.

Eric

You're 100% spot on!
The character Matthew Bonder killed off the character of Erin his son, then the character of Sarah, his wife. I want to say it was around 4 months between Erin's fake death, before Sarah's fake diagnosis.

I am sure they can explain why PayPal send emails with two different names then...

What new does this tell us? Apart from RF's attempt to justify why on one paypal document it says Kim, on the other Stephanie? Bit confused

I don't recall paypal needing SS numbers or a DL, though it's been a while.

I also know that I've never gotten a paypal email with a name other than mine on it, nor do they know my middle name.


Also, if Stephanie goes by Kim, then why did she sign her Obit post as Stephanie?

 Aerethan wrote:
I don't recall paypal needing SS numbers or a DL, though it's been a while.

I also know that I've never gotten a paypal email with a name other than mine on it, nor do they know my middle name.


Also, if Stephanie goes by Kim, then why did she sign her Obit post as Stephanie?

When I wanted to link my bank account to my PayPal I had to send tj that stuff.

Ok, I am really confused. This is all very elaborate etc and takes a lot of effort to set up each time it happens. Is there really that amount of money involved to justify this amount of effort? I don't get it.

Really? I've linked my wife's account to my paypal and all they wanted was the account, routing, and then the verified test amounts that they send you(like 3 or 4 cents twice).

Then again my paypal account is 9 years old, so perhaps I've just forgotten having to add those details at some point.


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 fullheadofhair wrote:
Ok, I am really confused. This is all very elaborate etc and takes a lot of effort to set up each time it happens. Is there really that amount of money involved to justify this amount of effort? I don't get it.

Perhaps the money isn't what he's chasing. Perhaps he's using these ventures as ways to get his own models for free. You'd be surprised the lengths some people will go to for free crap.

My money is more along the lines of Daniel being a sociopath who thrives on running these lies until the bubble pops and then he gets to start all over. Some people have way too much time on their hands.

 Aerethan wrote:
Really? I've linked my wife's account to my paypal and all they wanted was the account, routing, and then the verified test amounts that they send you(like 3 or 4 cents twice).

Then again my paypal account is 9 years old, so perhaps I've just forgotten having to add those details at some point.

They only ask you for it if you want to send money to Paypal from a bank/credit union account to your Paypal account without any sort of transaction. You can do everything else without that information.

I've had my current Paypal account since 2002-2003 and had never been asked until just recently when I wanted to add funds in that manner.

I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Really? I've linked my wife's account to my paypal and all they wanted was the account, routing, and then the verified test amounts that they send you(like 3 or 4 cents twice).

Then again my paypal account is 9 years old, so perhaps I've just forgotten having to add those details at some point.

They only ask you for it if you want to send money to Paypal from a bank/credit union account to your Paypal account without any sort of transaction. You can do everything else without that information.

I've had my current Paypal account since 2002-2003 and had never been asked until just recently when I wanted to add funds in that manner.

I was not even asked when doing exactly that.

In fact, I have 2 paypal accounts (one personal, several years old, and one business account that is one year old) and in neither case did I have to enter such information. Simply bank account/credit card information for verification. I could have, quite frankly, used any name I wanted.

 Aerethan wrote:
I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

Yep. They'll pull the funds just fine. There's no requirement for just sending money or paying. It's only when you want Paypal Funds on hand.

@Rorschach, that's very strange. When did you start doing it? I'm still in the process of clearing things up precisely because my account uses a nickname that isn't on any ID I have and they asked for it when I attempted to add funds from my bank. Also, have you ever attempted to just ADD funds from an account, not pay a transaction/send money?

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

Yep. They'll pull the funds just fine. There's no requirement for just sending money or paying. It's only when you want Paypal Funds on hand.

@Rorschach, that's very strange. When did you start doing it?

The first time I transferred funds from my account to paypal (to have paypal funds on hand) was about 2 years ago. The last time was just last week.

Getting off topic, I think.

 kronk wrote:
Getting off topic, I think.

Indeed. For probably the past 2 pages +.

Rorschach9 wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

Yep. They'll pull the funds just fine. There's no requirement for just sending money or paying. It's only when you want Paypal Funds on hand.

@Rorschach, that's very strange. When did you start doing it?

The first time I transferred funds from my account to paypal (to have paypal funds on hand) was about 2 years ago. The last time was just last week.

Just noticed your flag, I think I found the reason.

From Paypal when I log in: "Before we can offer you certain products and services, federal regulations require that we collect specific information to verify your identity. This information includes your name, address, date of birth, and National Tax ID or Social Security number."

As in US Federal Regulations(from reading further, it's a pretty long page, don't want to post it all). That's not something a Canadian would necessarily be held to.

As for relevance to topic: If the account is verified in that way, as required by federal regulations, then it means two things: This is Stephanie Kim's Account and she's using it or someone else is using it to hide behind her name, which could be fraud and identity theft if used without her permission.

And no, I'm not saying either, both, or none of those possibilities is allegedly happening.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I still have my suspicions... if Mandelbaum and Stepha-Kim are divorced... it is not out of the realm of possibility that he is using her credentials to sneak under the radar...

I know Stephanie exists, I just don't believe 'Kim' is her. I wish someone could reach out to the real one to make sure she actually knows about all this in a non-sketchy, non-threatening way. Honestly it is not impossible she could be a victim in all this too if they are no longer together.

Yes that is a stretch I can't definitively back up and I admit it... she may also know about it and Daniel is just using her alias with her knowing about it anyways... it's not like he was upfront about the real name in the first place after all.

Stepha-Kim doesn't roll off the tongue well, mebbe Kimanie

 alarmingrick wrote:

 MagickalMemories wrote:
Very minor quibble... but I want to set it straight (even if I'm the one who is incorrect).

@ MT11
You said "Matt Bonder's" "Wife" died, then his "daughter" did.

I have one statement of correction and one question on it.

1) It wasn't a daughter. It was a Son. I remember this specifically, as the "Son" was named Erin (this is how he spelled the son's name). I remember that specifically, as [a] I have a daughter with that name and [b] wondered, but did not ask -as I was a believer at that time- why he spelled it like a girl's name.

2) Question... Didn't "Matt" lose his "Son" then his "Wife" in the stories he told? I could be misremembering, but that is how I THOUGHT it went.

Don't want to be pedantic... but the guy will latch on any inaccuracy to show how we are "lying," and I want to be sure that the record is correctly reflected.

Thanks.

Eric

You're 100% spot on!
The character Matthew Bonder killed off the character of Erin his son, then the character of Sarah, his wife. I want to say it was around 4 months between Erin's fake death, before Sarah's fake diagnosis.

Erin I don't think even got "born" ... when I was talking to Matt back then, (on the phone twice, thru email and Bartertown PMs too), he kept talking about his wife miscarrying .. Jan 3-5, 2009 PMs

I have saved almost everthing he send me from 4 years back..

If needed, I can provide copy/pastes.. no screen capture alas

-P

 porkuslime wrote:

Erin I don't think even got "born" ... when I was talking to Matt back then, (on the phone twice, thru email and Bartertown PMs too), he kept talking about his wife miscarrying .. Jan 3-5, 2009 PMs

I have saved almost everthing he send me from 4 years back..

If needed, I can provide copy/pastes.. no screen capture alas

-P

No. No.
You're right.
Now that you mention it, I recall that it WAS a miscarriage.... but he always referred to it as his "son dying." That is why I didn't even question the "dead son" story as mentioned previously in the thread. I'd totally forgotten that part.
Heck, if my memory is coming back properly, the "wife" was 6 months pregnant at the time. I seem to recall that the even tied his "wife's" later illness in with (or as) the reason for the "miscarriage."

God. The more I remember about that time frame, the sicker and sicker this individual seems (to me).

Eric

You got it.. wife had miscarriage, he was kicked out of the house for not being all sympathetic, then wife reveals she has cancer, he moved back in to help care for her.. and .. then she dies.

Very Tragic Story of Young Boy who Died ..

Happy I still got em..

-P

I love that he can say whatever he wants cause it's an opinion but everyone else who points out facts and states their opinions about him is 'liable'.

Deleted a few terminally off-topic posts.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I love that he can say whatever he wants cause it's an opinion but everyone else who points out facts and states their opinions about him is 'liable'.

I particularly liked the part where he said Hive Mind is unblockable, and that Dakka people never post under their real names. I had been posting under my real name the entire time... Seriously, this guy is grasping at so many straws it's becoming more annoying than it had been humorous.

Hive Mind is unblockable? What, is he a Facebook admin or something?

Dakka has friends in high places, the reach of the cult is vast.

 d-usa wrote:
Dakka has friends in high places, the reach of the cult is vast.

Given the behaviour displayed by Resin Forge so far in response to comments made in this thread, I would prefer if people avoid even joking about the idea of 'Dakka' being behind the behaviour of any individual on Facebook. 'Dakka' had nothing to do with it, and most certainly does not endorse that sort of behaviour.

well, things have gone all quiet on the RF page today...
hopefully this insanity will die down, because yesterday was off the chain...

the only thing Dakka Mods, and us users, should be doing now is look out for the next Mandelbaum move...
bringing him to light as a member of RF was all that was being done here...
through this, Alph got repaid, and the people who's packages "went missing" got refunds...
good job...

from here, as i see it, anything further is moot, and only makes us look bad...
the few remaining supporters of RF are going to give them money regardless...
that's their choice...
the public has been informed...
'nuff said...

until the next round...

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:
well, things have gone all quiet on the RF page today...
hopefully this insanity will die down, because yesterday was off the chain...

the only thing Dakka Mods, and us users, should be doing now is look out for the next Mandelbaum move...
bringing him to light as a member of RF was all that was being done here...
through this, Alph got repaid, and the people who's packages "went missing" got refunds...
good job...

from here, as i see it, anything further is moot, and only makes us look bad...
the few remaining supporters of RF are going to give them money regardless...
that's their choice...
the public has been informed...
'nuff said...

until the next round...

cheers
jah

Agree with this comment, let us watch and listen and see what happens.

 insaniak wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Dakka has friends in high places, the reach of the cult is vast.

Given the behaviour displayed by Resin Forge so far in response to comments made in this thread, I would prefer if people avoid even joking about the idea of 'Dakka' being behind the behaviour of any individual on Facebook. 'Dakka' had nothing to do with it, and most certainly does not endorse that sort of behaviour.

Sorry, I didn't think it would be taken in any content like that and was just trying to make light of the "Dakka is a cult" comment. Will refrain from further statements like that.

Resin Forge:

Due to many requests, we are considering the idea of having all models that have been featured here, go up for grabs. Unlike bits shipments these would require a signature upon delivery and insurance.

Would any customers be interested? If so, send us a PM.

The beast below is just 1 example. The gallery itself is scattered worth works, but we are trying to put them all into this album : https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.536450509724043.1073741827.464657756903319&type=3

I notice their web store is still open for orders.

I notice their web store is still open for orders.

Despite all the "harassment" and emotional damage Mr Mandelbaum and his three families must have gone through, there were quite a lot of (documented) instances of announcing that trade would continue via PM. So why close the webshop?

I think he just said he was closing the shop to take the heat off him, thinking that we'd just say "Mission Accomplished" and move on. Clearly he is still operating, therefore he is still an issue.

I think he just said he was closing the shop to take the heat off him, thinking that we'd just say "Mission Accomplished" and move on. Clearly he is still operating, therefore he is still an issue.

There are multiple outside and inside eyes on him. And that won't stop until the promised business registration shows up. Not to forget the HH pics. Moving "8000 $" bits will take a while

P.S.: interesting how despite all the fierce shows of support none of his loyal customers who had their Fulgrims shipped spoke up in his defence Honi soit qui mal y pense

So Resin Forge has stated Daniel is longer with the business.

They have claimed Kim/Stephanie and Jason only handle bits, and Daniel handled conversions. Does this mean Daniel is back with Resin Forge? Whose conversions are they selling?

So confusing.....

Perhaps, as the conversions are probably made from RF stock, they are considered RF's to sell not Daniel's?

Koppo wrote:
Dates, you have to enter a start and end date for the search.

You'll find this

http://policereports.dallaspolice.net/publicreports/ReportOutput/525888055.pdf

Ok, so I'm going to be that guy that just says it. DM's address at this time is public knowledge, even if he WAS involved in RF and RF was eventually going to be a scam. Wouldn't it be smarter for him to just bug out? I mean...internet anonymity has expired.

 AustonT wrote:

Koppo wrote:
Dates, you have to enter a start and end date for the search.

You'll find this

http://policereports.dallaspolice.net/publicreports/ReportOutput/525888055.pdf

Ok, so I'm going to be that guy that just says it. DM's address at this time is public knowledge, even if he WAS involved in RF and RF was eventually going to be a scam. Wouldn't it be smarter for him to just bug out? I mean...internet anonymity has expired.

Does much of anything he's done strike you as "smart"?

Ok, so I'm going to be that guy that just says it. DM's address at this time is public knowledge, even if he WAS involved in RF and RF was eventually going to be a scam. Wouldn't it be smarter for him to just bug out? I mean...internet anonymity has expired.

Does much of anything he's done strike you as "smart"?

Well, since his whereabouts are known now and easily accessible to everybody who knows how to use a computer - that would explain why running is way more risky now. You know, people know where to look for their stuff. That's probably why he tried (or not ) to appear legit. Just speculation, obviously.

In any case he tries to push the sales by saying it's all done soon.



By the way, Daniel Forge, we are still waiting for:
- business registration (yes, also "liquidation sales" are taxable)
- pics from the HH weekender

Despite all your claims our interest was and is not to close RF, we want PROOF for your claims

AFAIK Mandelbaum's alleged scams are for fairly small amounts as regards individual customers. For example Alpharius was owed under $300. It's the kind of sum that few people would bother going half-way across the USA to try and recover in person, even knowing the address of the person they want to confront.

I don't now how difficult it is to do a small claims action in the USA, but in the UK you might not bother for the equivalent of $300. If you win, the defendant can just not pay, then you have to do a load more stuff to place a garnishee order on their bank account or call in bailiffs, and so on. Ultimately, unless the money involved is quite large, or you have a particular desire for revenge, it's just easier to get on with the rest of your life.

I've followed through a few actions as part of business, but I did the "domestic" one I've been involved in only because of the wife nebbing me.

Even if Mandelbaum did rack up a series of court judgements, he could avoid them by starting a new business and not registering it. The authorities would have no way of tracking him.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
AFAIK Mandelbaum's alleged scams are for fairly small amounts as regards individual customers. For example Alpharius was owed under $300.

Actually, he owed Alph WAY more. At one point it was closer to $1300.

 Aerethan wrote:
I think he just said he was closing the shop to take the heat off him, thinking that we'd just say "Mission Accomplished" and move on. Clearly he is still operating, therefore he is still an issue.

I have read everything here (and I will play devils advocate here), But when did this become a thread about closing him down? rather then just proving he was involved with/running RF?

Jim, you're either wilfully misconstruing aerithan's words, or are missing the point of the post.

It's never been about 'closing him down' - it's been about informing the gaming community to his reemergence, checking on whether he was up to his old tricks, and then about closing down his excuses as to why he couldn't prove, with any of his multiple personalities (6 and counting), that RF was a legitimate business with no possible issues.

He decided to close - on his own, with no call from anyone here.

RF claimed Mandelbaum had left the company even though it wasn't asked for, while offering no proof of it, and being indignant that the lack of proof was not believed.

Meanwhile they haven't offered the simple proofs of their business registration and their visit to HH Weekender, which actually have been asked for.

No-one believes anymore that RF is anything except Daniel Mandelbaum operating an illegal company. Clearly a lot of users think this is a shameful state of affairs and would like to see him stopped. Anyway, Resin Forge decided to announce they were closing (which they haven't). It's not something people have requested.

If their decision came about because the business became untenable due to the internet gak storm that arose from their obvious mendacity, it is an occasion on which the victim genuinely can be blamed.

Clearly he is still operating, therefore he is still an issue.

I have read everything here (and I will play devils advocate here), But when did this become a thread about closing him down? rather then just proving he was involved with/running RF?

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By the way, Daniel Forge, we are still waiting for:
- business registration (yes, also "liquidation sales" are taxable)
- pics from the HH weekender

Despite all your claims our interest was and is not to close RF, we want PROOF for your claims

He is still operating under the banner of not being Mandelbaum (anymore), having a business license and that Resin Forge DID go to the HH weekender. So the "issue" still persists, yes.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

He is still operating under the banner of not being Mandelbaum (anymore), having a business license and that Resin Forge DID go to the HH weekender. So the "issue" still persists, yes.

And would seemingly prefer to go "out of business" and stop making money rather than supply the legally required business license and perhaps pick up a good many new customers who might think they are on the up and up...

That's Logic!

I've seen a lot of people saying they think he'll be starting another company/business. I really wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already.
What's to stop him? Is he going to go on vacation first? I think the biggest tell will be when/if RF does close by his choosing. By then the
new venture will be already up and going.

I've seen a lot of people saying they think he'll be starting another company/business. I really wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already.
What's to stop him? Is he going to go on vacation first? I think the biggest tell will be when/if RF does close by his choosing. By then the
new venture will be already up and going.

The lack of RF activity would indeed suggest that. Moving 8K of stock would require a flurry of activity. So I guess sooner or later we will again see stunning FW conversions by a hitherto unknown company.

Those customers are insane... this company is closing due to connections to a known liar and 'alleged' scammer who runs ponzi's, yet they are jumping on a 'going out of business sale' where the 'alleged' scammer has shut off website ordering and is now only taking PMs on facebook?

Ya. That's a super legit way to do business. Stop and think about it Mandelzombs, what possible reason is there for him to stop business on his website and do it via PM? Why not just use the in place system with verifiable and trackable data? Why switch to a much sketchier and harder to verify PM? NOTHING about that makes any sense for a legit business, it increases his chances of getting away with something, and decreases your security.

These guys are nuts... at this point, for those slagging off us and others for trying to protect them will possibly be getting a harsh lesson in Mandelnomics.

Those customers are insane... this company is closing due to connections to a known liar and 'alleged' scammer who runs ponzi's, yet they are jumping on a 'going out of business sale' where the 'alleged' scammer has shut off website ordering and is now only taking PMs on facebook?

Ya. That's a super legit way to do business. Stop and think about it Mandelzombs, what possible reason is there for him to stop business on his website and do it via PM? Why not just use the in place system with verifiable and trackable data? Why switch to a much sketchier and harder to verify PM? NOTHING about that makes any sense for a legit business, it increases his chances of getting away with something, and decreases your security.

These guys are nuts... at this point, for those slagging off us and others for trying to protect them will possibly be getting a harsh lesson in Mandelnomics.

You know, it's like with lemmings. So calm down, lean back, let's see what happens I always say if somebody WANTS to do sth despite knowing the risks, at least he can provide a good example later Not going to waste any efort on a doomed cause there. Some popcorn? A beer?

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Those customers are insane... this company is closing due to connections to a known liar and 'alleged' scammer who runs ponzi's, yet they are jumping on a 'going out of business sale' where the 'alleged' scammer has shut off website ordering and is now only taking PMs on facebook?

Ya. That's a super legit way to do business. Stop and think about it Mandelzombs, what possible reason is there for him to stop business on his website and do it via PM? Why not just use the in place system with verifiable and trackable data? Why switch to a much sketchier and harder to verify PM? NOTHING about that makes any sense for a legit business, it increases his chances of getting away with something, and decreases your security.

These guys are nuts... at this point, for those slagging off us and others for trying to protect them will possibly be getting a harsh lesson in Mandelnomics.

How long can he keep them strung along before the 45 days for the Paypal claim expires will be fun emails to read. That's the ones that use PP.

Why do i get the feeling that in about a months time we're going to see thread posts that read

Customer X " Hi my names X i was scammed by the Mendleboner after i called all of you guys ***** and then sent him money "
Dakka forums " Hi X , we told you so "

Unfortunately there are none so blind as those that will not see.
All that we can do as a community is provide the information to the best of our ability, and then it is up to those reading it to decide what their best course of action is.

 Savagecoyote wrote:
Why do i get the feeling that in about a months time we're going to see thread posts that read

Customer X " Hi my names X i was scammed by the Mendleboner after i called all of you guys ***** and then sent him money "
Dakka forums " Hi X , we told you so "

Actually I bet we wont see those posts... MAYBE some; "Hey, you guys wanna help us out with a lawsuit?... "

lemmings dont like to admit they went off the cliff...

Actually I bet we wont see those posts... MAYBE some; "Hey, you guys wanna help us out with a lawsuit?... "

He also always need future defenders. So who knows

Some people just delude themselves, they think 'it'll never happen to me' or they dont mind dealing with someone dishonest because they are just getting such a good deal they don't care about anyone else who has lost money.

And thus spreads the Mandelzomb infection...

And still with avoiding answering direct questions:


So I guess saying 'they're Daniels work' is just too much hassle....

Someone that isn't blocked go ask who made the conversions

Kim, probably, or Stephanie.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Kim, probably, or Stephanie.

I don't know, I hear Jason is allegedly talented in his own right!


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Well, I couldn't get a screen grab, but my wife posted asking who made the conversions, he deleted it.
She asked who deleted her comments and he said they were deleted based on who asked, and to tell
Rick hi. Funny, I seem to remember I only dealt with Mandelbaum. Thought he was gone......?

" Resin Forge Store The models were built by the team as examples of what FW models can be converted into. Specifically your comment was removed because of who wanted you to ask. Tell Rick, "Hi." "

You don't really think they just said that he was gone, and he really stayed do you?!?!?

No! Never! They are as honest as the day is long.

Wow, your apparently really touched a nerve Rick/Rick's wife. They sent me an email to copy/paste to you, but the gist of it is that apparently Dan told them who everyone on Dakka was, how to recognize them, and why each person hated him, so they know all about you. Oh, and they're done communicating with Dakka.

 AduroT wrote:
Wow, your apparently really touched a nerve Rick/Rick's wife. They sent me an email to copy/paste to you, but the gist of it is that apparently Dan told them who everyone on Dakka was, how to recognize them, and why each person hated him, so they know all about you. Oh, and they're done communicating with Dakka.

Daniel must have left detailed instructions to the other two company members, why else would Resin Forge know all the stuff that Daniel did?

And why do people on Dakka 'hate' Dan? Is it because he's an abusive liar and a cheat that takes people money and makes up stories about dying relatives to string people along for months/years?

No actually. I don't think people on Dakka do hate him. I don't anyway, I just think he's a very sad little man that needs to learn what honesty is.

I'm not blocked yet if there's anything *important* worth asking. I guess you would want to PM me as otherwise he'd pick up the question and it would be insta-blocked for sure.

He'll never see through my clever disguise.

And no one is worth hating. But many people are worth distrusting.

 AduroT wrote:
. Oh, and they're done communicating with Dakka.

And yet "they" still feel the need to send messages by proxy... Done communicating...

Any model not painted was done by Jason and in some of the rare cases, me. The painted ones could have been done by Jason , build wise, but painting was Daniel. That's why those are taken. He took them when he left and we kept the store models to sell and break even.

DO CUT AND PASTE THIS.

Why is it as if Dakka is even acting like we are doing wrong? This is how a company closes down.

QUOTE US, dont just GIST it.

This is how a company closes down.

A company which we don't even know is a company, since they refuse to provide information that they are required to have. I hope that if they are doing this without regards for tax law that they get caught, taxes are important, and every other business has to pay them.

Resin Forge:

Dear Mrs Rick, Richard, Robert Minton The models were built by the team as examples of what FW models can be converted into. Daniel made it very clear who Rick was, who Ken was, and key others.Whats funny is your here, causing drama, the very drama Rick loves to stir up. Seeing as how D always referred to him as Minton, it wasn't hard to see your his wife. Please do not comment again, we do not wish to ban you but you clearly are here to cause drama.

Resin Forge:

Seems being nice didn't work.

According to Resin Forge harassing people by phone and calling others nazis, sheep, idiots and more is NICE? *lol*

Did you get the 'hillbilly celebrities' quote screencapped? That was a good one

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Kim, probably, or Stephanie.

... or Mork

I followed this Mandelbaum affair for quite a while out of interest, allthough my visits have been less often recently, while the pattern of this operation seems clear and the facts are on the table. Now, the principle of german law calls a suspect innocent until the court decides him guilty, and I am in no way personally involved, although I have an opinion, and the chances of me trying business with that guy are as low as I would join in a game of hats at a shady street corner.

But my eventual visits of this thread make me feel I must ask Mandelbaum's opponents if you are still sure about your motivations. Yes, you want to stop a fraudster, yes, you want to protect other, potential victims from him, but - how much do you want it really? Life happens outside of the internet. If you really want to stop him, there should be more legal action. There is a lot of talking about tax fraud and illegal business in this thread. Well, if you suspect him and his possibly existing companions of tax fraud, then just do it and report him. If he is really innocent, then the law will name him so. If he is guilty, the law will take him out of action much more efficiently than all internet mobbing can, expecially with his (again, suspected) modus operandi, which seems expecially tailored for internet communication. The fact that the law seems to sleep more often than not is no argument, poking it over and over again eventually will stirr it. And remember Al Capone, the tax office is much more potent and willing to act than the rest of autorities.
In short, my opinion: take legal action outside the net or leave the manhunt. I understand the motivation behind it, but who is not willing to do so should consider that by just posting, pm-ing and so on he positions himself with all those haters and flamers that hide behind the (not so solid) anonymity of the internet, thus on one level with Mandelbaum himself.

"Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, laßt mich auch endlich Taten sehn!"
J.W. von Goethe, Faust: words were changed enough, now let me see action!

The motivation for us is clear:
- we want to see a business license
- we want to see pics from the HH weekender
- we want that people know that Mandelbaum is involved

Points 1 and 2 are still open. Point 3 is ongoing.

Another point is that Mr Mandelbaum knows that whenever and wherever he decides to pitch up a company which is not run under his real name, people will find out. He is more than welcome to play with open cards and make a legit business. But not with hiding his past and true identity

Accepted, Inquisitor. my point is that there is a point Zero behind it, name it or not: stopping a fraudster. (suspected, as I said). And there is only one way of doing so: authorities knocking at his door, waving the search warrant.

AduroT, can you PM me what Dan said about Tom S.? I'm interested to hear what he says about me. Or am I not a major player

The only ones mentioned by name were Rick and Ken, and I only know who Rick is because he made the post talking about his wife here as well. No idea who Ken might be.

I'm Ken

(if I'm wrong about who Ken is, then that won't make any sense, if I'm right then it does)

 motyak wrote:
I'm Ken

(if I'm wrong about who Ken is, then that won't make any sense, if I'm right then it does)

I see what you did there!

Who is Rick? The PR person?

I'm thinking that's AlarmingRick, KK.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Who is Rick? The PR person?

I take offense at that good sir! Why, I......

kronk's right. it's me.

And before anyone asks, the "drama" my wife's FB page started was to simply ask who made the conversions.

Oh the drama!!! The humanity.......!


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I also have a suggestion/idea I'd like to share. Let's NOT post anymore "drama" rants from RF. I hear you saying "well, why?"
Simple. Mandelbaum is gone and he was the only one banned from Dakka. If any remaining RF staff have anything to say, let them
take a few seconds to create an account, and tell us themselves. Otherwise, it's just Mandelbaum and there aren't any others.

Accepted, Inquisitor. my point is that there is a point Zero behind it, name it or not: stopping a fraudster. (suspected, as I said). And there is only one way of doing so: authorities knocking at his door, waving the search warrant.

1.) Contrary to what RF claims he/ they were not accused of being fraudsters by us or Dakka officials. So far no case of non-delivery or non-refund by Resin Forge has come to light. Some complaints, yeah, but (due to their own will or public pressure) people were refunden and their orders "found again". So there is no handle (nor interest) to "stop" or "shut down" RF.
2.) As said before the interest is that people KNOW who they are dealing with. And to expose or confirm (highly) questinable statements (business license, HH weekender, "exclusive" early products etc).
3.) To "stop" Mandelbaum, you need a coordination of people who didn't get what they were promised or what they paid for - this coordination IS happening, every time somebody turns up they are discreetly pointed to the coordination. That this is not happening publicly is clear, there have been enough alleged harassments by DM.

So summarized there are multiple levels of action. The most visible one, aiming at point 2.) and much less visible ones.

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Resin Forge:

Better pictures now that what is and isn't being sold from the featured models selection.

This time *fill in respective offer*

PM for offers.

*All sales will be conducted via a checkout system and will require signature on delivery do to the nature of the models*

What's a "checkout system"? Is he talking about his shop system?

I understand.

'The team at resinforge did the conversions'
On Mandelbaums personal army months before 'they joined' the company apparently...

Info provided from user who has been harassed by Mandelbaum in the past and does not with the torrents of emails and calls - but check this out -

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?357995-Sons-of-Horus-13th-Genetic-Research-Cohort
This is the wip thread of the SoH army. it is clearly a single person doing both painting and converting, and it's also implied that the business is a one man enterprise. The start of the thread is written in singular form, and changes to plural later on, but only in regards to the company RF, it is still very clear that this is not only a personal army, but also built and painted by the same guy which I suspect is Mandelbaum from the PM I got after posting in the first thread about him and RF.

Also, this trade thread is worded as if it's a one man operation:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?358990-H-Forge-World-Bits-books-and-more-for-Sale-W-or-possibly-trade

These other two sales threads are both in plural, and indicates that "the other owners" only joined later (about a month or 2 after the company was established)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?360992-Resin-Forge-New-Years-Sale-20-off-all-FW-items!
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?360995-Resin-Forge-New-Years-Sale-20-off-all-FW-items!

That kind of seems similar to the Resin Forge Reddit threads (albeit yes probably by the same person), but if I recall, no one under that username on Reddit says they are more than a 1 man operation.


Edit: Tom, I can't see the second, third, or fourth thread, as they require someone to be logged into warseer.

I also cannot see the last three threads. I continue to watchdog this for my friends

In theory, Resin Forge should by now be able to show three business registration numbers. The first from when Mandelbaum set up the company, the second one from after the two new people joined, and the third from after the two new people kicked out Mandelbaum. Though it's possible the third one would not yet have been assigned by Texas.

That is all based on the assumption that the company has been correctly registered. If it has been operating illegally with registration, they of course would not be able to show a reg number at all.

RF have been asked repeatedly to give their reg number, and haven't. You can draw your own conclusions.

From the Texas Taxes website

Report Fraud
For a fair and efficient tax system, it is important to ensure that there is a level playing field for all taxpayers. Everyone has a role to play — whether it is in complying with state tax laws or watching out to ensure everyone is following the same rules. Fraud robs you and it robs Texas.
You can report suspected fraud or criminal activity involving Texas state taxes to the Comptroller’s Criminal Investigations Division several ways:
By phone: Call (800) 531-5441, ext. 3-8707.
By e-mail: Send your concerns to cid@cpa.state.tx.us.
By mail: Write to Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts, Attn: CID, P.O. Box 13232, Austin, Texas 78774.
An online fraud reporting form will be available soon.
Reporting details: Please include as much detail as possible to include the name of the suspected business or individual, the address of the suspected business, the taxpayer number (if known), a short description of the alleged illegal activity, the type of state tax involved (if known), and the date when the suspected activity took place.
You can request to have your identity protected and retain your confidentiality to the extent possible under Texas law.
Note: Suspected cases of federal tax fraud/IRS fraud should be reported to federal authorities.

I'll just leave this here (i'm not saying anyone has committed fraud and i'm sure the Business Registration Number is forthcoming )

EDIT wow can i just say that the Texas Taxes website is a lovely website (much nicer than UK ones) it tells you all sorts, like not paying sales taxes hurts the parks and wildlife

So far all of the announced / confirmed sales have gone to the same person. Fingers crossed for that guy But considering the scrutiny RF is under and the fact that everybody with an ounce of IQ left will reverse paypal payment at the slightest change of delay should make quite sure at least the early stuff is delivered on time

 Kilkrazy wrote:
In theory, Resin Forge should by now be able to show three business registration numbers. The first from when Mandelbaum set up the company, the second one from after the two new people joined, and the third from after the two new people kicked out Mandelbaum.

That is all based on the assumption that the company has been correctly registered. If it has been operating illegally with registration, they of course would not be able to show a reg number at all.

They would, even then, still only need ONE registration. When you register an LLC (which is what RF has stated "they" are) you name one (or more) person(s) as the Director. You do not, ever, have to name every (or even one) owner in the registration, only the director(s). If that LLC changes hands/adds more owners/removes owners, the registration number will remain the same even if you file paperwork to change the director.

All said however, any LLC that actually registered would have zero issue providing their registration number.

Even if Resin forge showed ONE business registration number, It would go a LONG way to actually slowing fears.

To be honest though....would they even show a number? Would they have the balls to actually show their business is legitimate.

No.

DM has proven time and time again he tries to decieve and essentially to shake off any *repayments* he may need to make. I would not be surprised if RF is just DM, and nobody else.

Prove me wrong RF, and I'll buy from you. Prove me right, and you will suffer even more seclusion, even in the USA.

stop lying, and making excuses. You already said it wasn't a fire sale. Now it is and you didn't even change a LETTER in that.

I work at a library and why I never thought to ask our(nationally award winning) business librarian about the proof we seek, is beyond me.

I asked her if there is a way to look up a business and see of they are legit.
She said it depends on what state they are in.

I told her about the situation here and what we're asking for and she said it doesn't matter if they are an LLC or not, they can still be shady.
A vendor has a right to request, and recieve, a tax I.D. when setting up an account with a business; although a business has a right to deny the request of their tax I.D. to non vendors because the tax I.D. could be used without the businesses consent.
With these numbers (business or tax ID), and the address and phone information, you could fraudulently open an account and have goods and services sent to your home and billed to that business without a lot of trouble with some people they are roughly comparable, but not exactly to, your social security number.

Usually, a tax ID or business ID would not be given to a consumer.
http://idtheft.about.com/od/businessidtheft/a/EIN_IDT.htm

http://dallas.bbb.org/Find-Business-Reviews/

Usually, a tax ID or business ID would not be given to a consumer.

We would also take any other proof of legit business. Anything that can be verifiable.

Ah yes, and we are still waiting for the pics from the HH weekender - we are sure that shouldn't pose any problem

Well, looks like they lied again

Resin Forge Store
about an hour ago
@Joshua Exe has asked what other pre made unit we will be listing over the week. Actually, what units do you guys and gals want to fill your forces? Without shoulder pads means they can be for any Legion and with the bits stock we still have, anything can be made!

Joshua, how about you start us out as your not only a regular bits customer since the start but also now a unit buyer!

Also, apparently they are BCCing customers with a picture to spam forums.

Right, so if you want to get your customers BLOCKED from those forums, and lose their own friends for posting irrelevant pictures, go ahead. Resin forge will take the blame.

They aren't going to provide any of that at this point... Like a business registration number proving a degree of legitimacy and more importantly a degree of liability is something to be ashamed of or hidden, counter to the very purpose of it lol.

Dear RF, you are suspected of being Mandelbonder only and he is known to have operated under aliases, faked fictional family deaths, and lying constantly to the community he operates in to a pathological degree. Do you have a means to prove you are A a legitimate business with 2 other people as owners and B photographs to prove you were at the HH weekender?

RF - Yes we do how dare you!

Us - Can you simply show the info you promised and/or should be public record then?

RF - No.

Us - Why not?

RF - *sound of smoke pellet being thrown -

Art Steventon wrote:
But hey, maybe he's like Deadpool - not sure which personality is driving the body...

Let's not insult Deadpool like this. He is, at least, a professional and surprisingly honest fictional character.

Also, apparently they are BCCing customers with a picture to spam forums.

What kind of picture? To what end? To drive sales?

how about you start us out

What does "to start somebody out" mean? Mandelbaum-English translation please, thanks.

In any case business seems to be going great, as they have already (allegedly) sold 4000 US-$ worth of bits:


And this is either advertisement or something he will bitterly regret doing because other people know where to find real lawyers, we will see. Or do you think it will be the HH weekender pics? Or maybe the big support by Forge World that was announced?

So he's changed from a BITS seller, to a CONVERSION seller?

Does he really think that this will wash?

He's not gone away, he's not proven that RF's. legitimate business, he's banned from pretty much every board going. So now he's attempting to dupe 'customers'?

I notice that even his most ardent supporter Gamma/ Dome has now given up trying to defend the indefensible!

Daniel, give it up - you're not fooling anyone, nobody believes you apart from the dopes that you've roped in with some pretty shoddy conversions.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:


In any case business seems to be going great, as they have already (allegedly) sold 4000 US-$ worth of bits:

That claim floored me, too.

So now he's attempting to dupe 'customers'?

How?

I notice that even his most ardent supporter Gamma/ Dome has now given up trying to defend the indefensible!

What makes you think that?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

So now he's attempting to dupe 'customers'?

How?

Apologies - cut the sentence off - 'by resorting to blind copy emails and PM's

I notice that even his most ardent supporter Gamma/ Dome has now given up trying to defend the indefensible!

What makes you think that?

What makes you think that?
well, I've not seen him speaking up recently?

I think he said somewhere he was not willing to grace this forum with his presense anymore for the bad treatment the three Resin Forge families received. Something like that.

I like how RF tried to play the "people are messing with our incomes, we have kids to fee" scant weeks after RF tried that exact thing on me, trying to have me fired.

And I seriously doubt that they have moved 4k worth of product in a single week, or that a single person is buying up all of the conversions.

I also like how they keep saying they are ignoring Dakka, but then are constantly reading this thread.

*Note to self: Avoid dodgy bitz resellers*

And again, he still avoids the question, and the simple way of proving he was at the HH weekender - BOARDING CARDS AND RECEIPTS DON'T HAVE YOUR PHOTO ON THEM DANIEL.

Also, the mask has slipped - the text is back to the poor spelling and syntax that is unmistakably Daniel.

And finally - so there's a mystery 'buyer' of the remaining $4k of stock is there? Well, expect like a Phoenix from the flames, the next MandelBonder attempt shortly then....

A horrible thought hit me. Considering some rather....unlucky kickstart projects and what have you (defiance games springs to mind, though they're apparently working to get back on track), whats to stop DM from starting a kickstart, doing horribly well and then...what was it called, something of Anteres happening all over again?

Just showing the text in question....

They stick the idea that pics of the owners are what we want. We said we'd take boarding passes, which show name and flight info that can be verified that said people were at least in the country at that time(or had shelled out for tickets).

I agree that the syntax is back to Mandelbondsley style.

Inquisitor S. wrote:

What makes you think that?
well, I've not seen him speaking up recently?

I think he said somewhere he was not willing to grace this forum with his presense anymore for the bad treatment the three Resin Forge families received. Something like that.

Yup... we are definitely harassing two fictional families we don't believe exist due to nearly complete lack of evidence.

Aerethan wrote:I like how RF tried to play the "people are messing with our incomes, we have kids to fee" scant weeks after RF tried that exact thing on me, trying to have me fired.

And I seriously doubt that they have moved 4k worth of product in a single week, or that a single person is buying up all of the conversions.

I also like how they keep saying they are ignoring Dakka, but then are constantly reading this thread.

Exactly, the brass ones on this guy are beyond belief... if any of his supporters realized he tried to get you fired for posting a question on facebook and still back him they are as bad as him or really, totally clueless. I have to admit, Mandelbaum talking about honor as a defense makes my blood boil as there are crack dealers with more honor and honesty than that guy if you ask me...

Also funny that those quotes come from this thread as I havent seen Lex post them on FB.... And totally dodges the question of "legal, verifiable proof."

One symptom of classic narcisism is being unable to shut out what other people are saying about you, even if you have to go out of your way to find it....

Just go away dude.

 doc1234 wrote:
A horrible thought hit me. Considering some rather....unlucky kickstart projects and what have you (defiance games springs to mind, though they're apparently working to get back on track), whats to stop DM from starting a kickstart, doing horribly well and then...what was it called, something of Anteres happening all over again?

He'd have to actually provide proper legal information for once, and pay taxes.

Since Daniel is still reading and commenting (love how he can't let go )

Resin Forge Store
So Lex, what other proof would you like? Or to quote you as well:

"We would also take any other proof of legit business. Anything that can be verifiable.

Ah yes, and we are still waiting for the pics from the HH weekender - we are sure that shouldn't pose any problem"

The legal proof you promised people. Show us you are not Mandelbaum. Show us you are Hernandez and Martin.

Resin Forge Store :
Second part will never happen. You ran us into the ground, we tookd care of people at that very event, people here talked abotu selling us extras and the few pictures we have were taken with US in them.

We did not talk to any "Fulgrim sellers", nice you still try to use that excuse. We could however interprete your statement as an admission of not getting Fulgrims?

Resin Forge Store :
We will NOT show you what we look like after you crushed us into dust.

This puzzles us. YOu looked crushed into the dust on your Horus Heresy Weekender pics? Oh my, probably it was very exhausting to take all these selfies?

" Contrary to what RF claims he/ they were not accused of being fraudsters by us or Dakka officials. So far no case of non-delivery or non-refund by Resin Forge has come to light. Some complaints, yeah, but (due to their own will or public pressure) people were refunden and their orders "found again". So there is no handle (nor interest) to "stop" or "shut down" RF. "

That's correct. You were accused of being Daniel Mandelbaum. Same as from the very beginning, Daniel Who is accused by lots of people to still owe them money and minis.

Resin Forge Store :
But then 2 days later question sales to our own customers publicly.

LEAVE US ALONE LEX AND LET US CLOSE!

Did we? Oh my, that comes as quite a surprise, does it? We mean, after all the time you telling the truth, how could anyone doubt any further statements?

Resin Forge Store :
The website will be closed in the next 1-3 days. Someone is buying up the rest of the stock at that time. We are taking a loss but its better then stay a part of a community that runs us into the dust, the admits RF never did any wrong. Great work guys.

The page here will stay as it is and we will post random articles and fluff things as we wrap things up. Once thats done within 10 days, we will be officially done. If anyone has a question, PM it, dont bother posting it here as it will be removed. This is a thread of us flat out saying, Lex, you won, We quit. Leave us alone to close in peace.

No worries, you know as we know that we will meet again. Better make sure you have arguments then. We didn't win as we didn't play. And the people who you still owe money and miniatures didn't win as they are still owed.

That's the best Mandeldrama you could think of?

 doc1234 wrote:
A horrible thought hit me. Considering some rather....unlucky kickstart projects and what have you (defiance games springs to mind, though they're apparently working to get back on track), whats to stop DM from starting a kickstart, doing horribly well and then...what was it called, something of Anteres happening all over again?

If you're referring to Gates of Antares, what do you think happened to that project that would be a problem? It just didn't fund. Nothing shady went on.

Also funny that those quotes come from this thread as I havent seen Lex post them on FB.... And totally dodges the question of "legal, verifiable proof."

One symptom of classic narcisism is being unable to shut out what other people are saying about you, even if you have to go out of your way to find it....

Of course not. He will come back here. Again. And again. And again. Despite his (how manyI public tantrums that he would never do that

"Kim" just called me, heard a guy in the background feeding lines. She told me to stop harassing them, despite me not having spoken directly with them in a while. Then she hung up on me.

Again, calling from a google number.

"Kim" just called me, heard a guy in the background feeding lines. She told me to stop harassing them, despite me not having spoken directly with them in a while. Then she hung up on me.

Again, calling from a google number.

You should have said: I don't know any Kim, am I speaking to Stephanie?

She didn't even hear a word I said. I've not "harassed" them at all. Me speaking here is not harassment, as it is not directed at them.

At least DM wised up and is using untraceable numbers now.

I do believe that is verifiable harassment... You didnt ask them to call you and they had to actively seek out your comments on your own opinion here......

Resin Forge Store :
Second part will never happen. You ran us into the ground, we tookd care of people at that very event, people here talked abotu selling us extras and the few pictures we have were taken with US in them.

Hang on..... Not one of your so called 'resellers' has come forward to corroborate your claim, and also:
quote=Gamma310 526190 5685526 null]

Art Steventon wrote:Dome - it just seems.... odd that a piece of information such as not being able to get the Fulgrim's due to others being warned off hasnt been mentioned previously - surely you see this?

It's a pretty vital snippet that would have solved quite a few murmurs against RF (and would have been in their benefit).

Yes it would have helped them. As far as I know they have tried to get people selling their Fulgrim. The contacted them in advance by FB and made a meeting point. But only one of those who saif he would sell his Fulgrim showed up there

 Ammobunkerdean wrote:
I do believe that is verifiable harassment... You didnt ask them to call you and they had to actively seek out your comments on your own opinion here......

Harassment (/həˈræsmənt/ or /ˈhærəsmənt/) covers a wide range of behaviours of an offensive nature. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset, and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is intentional behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.

Calling him telling him to stop making remarks about him? Sounds like DM is intentionally doing this, he's not accidentally calling your house from an anonymous number telling you to stop.

I honestly wanted to speak with "Kim" and hash out some stuff, but she didn't let me get a word in and just spouted her rehearsed line at me.

Care to try again Kim?

To be fair, it can be quite difficult and expensive in the modern age to prove who you are.

The way to do it would be to go to a notary public and swear out an oath confirming your identity, supported with appropriate documents (passport, bank statements, birth certificate and so on). You then get a very impressive document bound up with red tape and sealing wax, counter-signed by the notary. This can be used to confirm your identity by showing it to people who needed to know.

I had to do all that to buy my house in Japan. It is quite a high cost and the proof cannot be sent electronically, so it would not do for this case.

However a Texas business registration would at least prove the legal status of the company and would cost nothing, apart from the registration fee.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair, it can be quite difficult and expensive in the modern age to prove who you are.

The way to do it would be to go to a notary public and swear out an oath confirming your identity, supported with appropriate documents (passport, bank statements, birth certificate and so on). You then get a very impressive document bound up with red tape and sealing wax, counter-signed by the notary. This can be used to confirm your identity by showing it to people who needed to know.

I had to do all that to buy my house in Japan. It is quite a high cost and the proof cannot be sent electronically, so it would not do for this case.

However a Texas business registration would at least prove the legal status of the company and would cost nothing, apart from the registration fee.

Does anyone here in the states know how one goes about getting picked up by the Better Business Bureau? I know that you need to seek out the BBB, but if ResinForge were to do that it would give claims to their legitimacy. I don't know the requirements needed to get picked up by them, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt

You don't get picked up by the BBB. You register and give them moneys to get accreditation. You have to be in business for a full year and have "sound business practices". So, that's a tough hurdle for SOME people to jump.

Linky

It's also worth pointing out that a "Business ID" or a "Corporate Registration Number" is a different number than a "Tax ID"...

The BBB only governs companies that are "members". They have very little real authority and are not a government agency.

I figured that the person with the business would have to apply, but if they were to apply to the BBB, would that not give them some legitimacy of being a business? Governing agency or not, the BBB should have some requirements, like a business registration number? Which they could provide to them and then not have to provide it to us...

They do require licensing information on that form I linked to, but I'm not sure if that's the same as a Tax ID or what.

 Aerethan wrote:
I honestly wanted to speak with "Kim" and hash out some stuff, but she didn't let me get a word in and just spouted her rehearsed line at me.
Care to try again Kim?

So they are harassing you with phone calls complaining about harassing? Interesting!

 Ammobunkerdean wrote:
It's also worth pointing out that a "Business ID" or a "Corporate Registration Number" is a different number than a "Tax ID"...

They are not the same but in some instances one can be be used interchangably.


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 Kroothawk wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I honestly wanted to speak with "Kim" and hash out some stuff, but she didn't let me get a word in and just spouted her rehearsed line at me.
Care to try again Kim?

So they are harassing you with phone calls complaining about harassing? Interesting!

It seems like they are just trying to placate any doubts but really are not allowing for any discussion...I don't see any kind of harassment here, just stubborness.

In Texas the business has to be registered with the county or state. The exact format depends on the kind of business. It is different to a tax registration, which is for the convenience of the tax authorities.

The purpose of a business registration is to confirm the legal identity of the business and its proprietors or directors, so that members of the public can know they are not dealing with some fly-by-night possible scam artist.

The BBB would not accredit a business that was not registered.

RF this mess is all down to you. Why didn't you set up your business the right way within the law of the land.

RF you made a BIG deal about going to the HH weekender and how you were going to cover the event. But we got nothing. Oh just black out the faces on the so called 8 pictures that were taken, or post pictures of other proof that shows a "team went to the event".

Or RF/or whoever is there. Grow some balls and stop lying.

Oh just black out the faces on the so called 8 pictures that were taken, or post pictures of other proof that shows a "team went to the event".

11 pictures

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

You know, it's like with lemmings.

In this analogy, is DM the Disney film crew flinging the Lemmings off the cliff?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Oh just black out the faces on the so called 8 pictures that were taken, or post pictures of other proof that shows a "team went to the event".

11 pictures

Yes sorry 11 pictures. lol

You gotta wonder... how were they both in all 11 pictures... they went to the event and never hit the picture button themselves, they ONLY handed their camera to random strangers to take pictures of them giving a thumbs up in front of miniatures???

That makes sense.

So does going to a mini event and a mini enthusiast and not taking close up shots of.... drum-roll... minis! Not only that, it's the gak you are gonna try to sell immediately to your customers, it's your business!

No Daniel, it makes absolutely, completely, and totally no sense whatsoever, and since you refuse to show these completely non-sensical pics with faces blacked out, I call you liar sir.

I wonder that myself, MT. Also wonder why it's only 11 pictures. When I went to Games Day 2000(it's the only one I took a camera to), I used a roll and a half of film during the event. Of those pictures, I'm in a total of 3. We're not talking about a family vacation here, we're talking about a nerd event where people go to see models, talk to the designers/authors, and hear about the new exciting things coming out. Why would you even want to be in every single picture you take there when you're most likely to take pictures of the toys, tables, and panel guests?

I can see a couple(you with a certain guest, you playing a game maybe), but ALL? And wouldn't you want more than a measly 11 pictures to remember it, even if it isn't the main reason you're in Britain(remember, they claim to have just happened to be visiting other people and it coincided)?

In this analogy, is DM the Disney film crew flinging the Lemmings off the cliff or are we?

Don't know who you are, we are the ones watching the lemming leader giving speeches and acting in a generally weird fashion while he is urging his fellow lemmings on to throw themselves down the cliff for the glory of the leader.

Yes sorry 11 pictures. lol

DM is very eager that all his statements are quoted correctly. You don't want to be "liable", do you?

In general his tone seems to become more erratic, if anything. "Silly forums". Really?


As for "Joshua Exe", the guy who supposedly bought all the "sold" conversions: his profile seems genuine. Quite established. Not like a puppet account.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

In this analogy, is DM the Disney film crew flinging the Lemmings off the cliff or are we?

Don't know who you are, we are the ones watching the lemming leader giving speeches and acting in a generally weird fashion while he is urging his fellow lemmings on to throw themselves down the cliff for the glory of the leader.

Sorry, came across a bit wrong. It's a snipe at Disney for feeding that stupid legend with White WIlderness when they mashed up footage of a lemming migration and lemmings being flung off a cliff by a turn table that the crew placed lemmings on.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

In this analogy, is DM the Disney film crew flinging the Lemmings off the cliff or are we?

Don't know who you are, we are the ones watching the lemming leader giving speeches and acting in a generally weird fashion while he is urging his fellow lemmings on to throw themselves down the cliff for the glory of the leader.

Lemmings do not do this.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp

 MajorTom11 wrote:
You gotta wonder... how were they both in all 11 pictures... they went to the event and never hit the picture button themselves, they ONLY handed their camera to random strangers to take pictures of them giving a thumbs up in front of miniatures???

Thank God all those other people that went to the event and posted their photos are such terrible photographers !!!! they completely failed to get themselves in any shots and just took photos of a bunch of dumb models

Lemmings do not do this.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp

40K Lemming Cultists under the influence of Resin dust could though Now let's see how long it takes till RF publishes a post saying that Lex makes wrong analogies.

--> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lemming
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 MajorTom11 wrote:
and since you refuse to show these completely non-sensical pics with faces blacked out, I call you liar sir.

Careful. Daniel Mandelbaum might make a sock puppet facebook account, post horrendous things on his own Resin Forge Store facebook page, and then tell the world how horrible MajorTom11 is to him.

Allegedly.

It should say a lot about the person you're dealing with that the claim he would set up a fake facebook account to harass himself is believable.

 xole wrote:
It should say a lot about the person you're dealing with that the claim he would set up a fake facebook account to harass himself is believable.

He may or may not have done that here.

Also, I just saw this post from Dreadclaw: linky

He shows that the Hive Mind account was made at 6:30 PM CST on June 4th. Tuesday night is RPG night for my group. I was at my friend Joe's with 5 other people at 6:00 PM CST, playing Pathfinder.

So, there's that.

 kronk wrote:

 xole wrote:
It should say a lot about the person you're dealing with that the claim he would set up a fake facebook account to harass himself is believable.

He may or may not have done that here.

Also, I just saw this post from Dreadclaw: linky

He shows that the Hive Mind account was made at 6:30 PM CST on June 4th. Tuesday night is RPG night for my group. I was at my friend Joe's with 5 other people at 6:00 PM CST, playing Pathfinder.

So, there's that.

And any good dnd/pathfinder/role player would know that all devices get turned off at the table.

Edit: drifting off topic.

Straying Off Topic again, but best wishes to your buddy Kronk.

Back OT - nothing from RF since the little flurry yesterday - could it be he's gone underground?

Art Steventon wrote:
Straying Off Topic again, but best wishes to your buddy Kronk.

Back OT - nothing from RF since the little flurry yesterday - could it be he's gone underground?

He is most likely waiting for those images to get sent out, too bad we can't see what this image is before it hits the net.

He is most likely waiting for those images to get sent out, too bad we can't see what this image is before it hits the net.

The question would be more: where will they turn up. Considering all big (English speaking) forums have banned him or at least all discussions or mentioning of the whole affair. He does not really strike me as being big with foreign languages. So you would really expect that his followers would expose themselves by opening threads to post whatever pictures he wants them to post?

Or you think he will hope on reddit after already pissing people there off before? You wouldn't think he will go to 4chan, now THAT would be hilarious

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

He is most likely waiting for those images to get sent out, too bad we can't see what this image is before it hits the net.

The question would be more: where will they turn up. Considering all big (English speaking) forums have banned him or at least all discussions or mentioning of the whole affair. He does not really strike me as being big with foreign languages. So you would really expect that his followers would expose themselves by opening threads to post whatever pictures he wants them to post?

Or you think he will hope on reddit after already pissing people there off before? You wouldn't think he will go to 4chan, now THAT would be hilarious

It was either you or Dreadclaw that posted some links on reddit from Resin Forge, he's already ticked off some people...

t was either you or Dreadclaw that posted some links on reddit from Resin Forge, he's already ticked off some people...

That's what I meant. They are not exactly known to be forgiving people. So I'd hazard the guess that the target will be Facebook hobby group and pages.

Let's not dwell on that too much, let him deal with others as he will but let's keep things as straight and narrow on Dakka as we can...

That being said, I don't think it has been directly pointed out that Mandelbaum asserts both his mother, and ex-girlfriend/wife are involved in the hobby as resellers and converters absent his involvement lol... that makes absolute sense. Then he does not acknowledge the 7+ aliases he used to hide himself either... nothing this guy does or says makes any kind of sense. Just keep watching him flail around like a landed fish spitting lies to try and save himself -

Resin Forge Store
*** Update ***

The store webpage at www.resinforge.com will remain up. It however has had the shopping cart feature removed, so there will be no checkouts. This is done so we can easily inventory what items we have left. Any other ideas on why this is being done is a rumor, hear say or just plain wrong.

The Facebook page here will not close. It will get a new set of admins to simply post interesting things in regards to resin. With that said, it will be around 2 weeks before we can find the right admins to run the site as a fluff site and not use it as a store front. In the meantime to that, we WILL be selling units already built for the store. In the end it does not matter how built them except the fact thay WERE built with Resin Forge products and thus, they belong to Resin Forge.

If you have been active here and feel you can help simply add new content as an admin, that would be great. Just send a PM here. We may or may not change this pages name. Again all we ask is to be left alone so we can complete our tasks. We do not need or want any harassment.

Lex, This part is probably pointless but Lex, we have unbanned your personal account. Send us a PM as its the only way us 2 can talk direct. We are willing to a extent, share what info and documents we have on everything posted here. We just want to drama to stop. (offers out hand as a first step)

A current list of what hasn't sold unit wise will be put up there in a comment once this is all wrote.

Resin Forge transforms into a "fluff page"? Every time when we think there can't be any more surprised, we are proven wrong.


Talking directly and it private? Sudden change of minds are always suspicious. We think we prefer public communication. Much safer. But there are other people who extended an offer for private communication, if wished for.

By the way, still not acknowledging who built the models. Dancing around questions, as always before, how can you expect any communication based on that?

Resin Forge Store
We got all the help we need, thanks! And again, really people, its nothing bad!

Well, seems as if people were lining up to spread the image then?



So as for starters we think that we'd still like to see pictures of the Horus Heresy weekender.
And we are not going to let ourselves be used to legitimize anything, i.e. we are not interested in anything that is not generally and publicly available for the readers and followers. Enough accusations were made and games were played by you DM/RF, no new round behind the scenes.

It doesn't matter who did the conversions? Really? It mattered a lot to you to pretend Daniel Mandelbaum left the building and moved to Antarctica and you have absolutely zero to do with him. Now you have no option but to admit it is him, he is still involved (some would say 100% involved) and you think you can dictate that it's not important on a whim?

One more grain of a lie on the beach that is Daniel Mandelbaum and Resinforge. It's offensive you think that crap will fly, honestly.

Of course it will fly! This is America!

AMERICA!

The Auld Grump, or he may just fade away in a few weeks like Cook's Choice, only to pop up again like Aminita Muscaria after the rain....

I feel like I'm missing something with MT11's post.

RF wrote 'It doesn't matter who did these conversions' as a dictate in their post. Clearly, by both quality of work and complete and total lack of anything that even remotely makes sense pointing otherwise, the converter is Mandelbaum. After all their hysterics that Mandelbaum was gone and they had nothing to do with him to dismiss his involvement here like it is irrelevant is absolutely ridiculous. Of course it's relevant! lol

Reading the Resin Forge posts it is pretty clear that he is back off the deep end...

And back to the Daniel we know in the shortest time:



- No such things were said, but he has a vivid imagination. At some point somebody should inform a psychiatrist.
- No proof was offered or given, outright lie.

And here it's all our fault again:

- You can start by making a public statement that we were right from the beginning that Daniel Mandelbaum worked for Resin Forge, being an owner.
- You can continue with your claims we liquidated the page of your lawyers.
- Then you can start with your excuses for diverse other things you said.
- Diverse other things to fill out.

And here it's very funny how he tries to defend what he is doing:






Yes, exactly. As usual he was just out to fish for pity and present himself and his three unproven families as the victims. Could take apart every single of his statements, but why bother, everybody knows what is being played. And that's why we can't have nice things. You backstabbing Selfie-taker, you

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=538614812840946&set=a.470645399637888.98164.464657756903319&type=1&theater

yet he'd never read dakka again.

Lol, I in fact never accused them of re-casting, in fact, I went out of my way to make clear that in my opinion there was no evidence that I had personally seen that supports that claim and that we should just get off the topic!

Sorry Mandelbaum, I guess you ignored that?

I don't think ResinForge the company had done anything drastically out of order yet, although suspicious things were starting to happen. I don't think or care if they were re-casting.

The issue is that Daniel Mandelbaum also ran good companies under several aliases before this. Everything was fine until it wasn't. Then people got ripped off. He uses aliases. He lies. He harrases.

For a brief second I'm going to pretend that Kim and Jason are actual people and not covers as they are in my opinion here:

You two cannot put it together that by associating yourselves with such a notorious, alias using, lying member of the community that this would cast severe doubt on you two, whether he is still there or not? You were intimately involved with him for years, which meant you knew fine well he had been involved and run several businesses that all suddenly closed shop. If you were interested enough to go into business with him in this hobby you at least had to have a clue he wasn't using his real name if you were aware of his career. You don't get to just pretend you are innocent lambs who just met him the day before he started resin forge (within a week or two of shutting down TSS for 'allegedly' scamming).

You cannot, in any reasonable frame of mind, expect yourselves to be disassociated from Mandelbaum under these circumstances.

Instead of dealing with it head on and addressing the truths you HAVE to know about him and his previous dealings, even if it is only a fraction of them you know there was some shady stuff. There is no his side of the story. He pretended to be Matt Bonder and pretended he couldn't deliver the work he was paid for because fictional wife and child were dying of cancer. That is not in doubt. He pretended to be his own mother, Susan, with me personally and ADMITTED to it to me after he was incontrovertably busted. This is not in doubt.

He used his mother's identity to hide his own to continue doing business in a community he had stolen from, and yet you invoke her name to make us look bad? No one did more dishonor to Susan's name than Daniel did. That is the sad truth, and you need to admit that this behavior was disgusting.

You also can't amalgamate every bad behavior you have ever experienced into one single person called 'Dakka' and then shove responsibility on whomever is convenient at the time. I have never done anything like that horrible letter you received and posted on FB. I have called Daniel a liar, yes, but he is, I'm sorry but that is about as objective and scientific a fact as you can get at this point. You can argue some things don't have 100% proof this is true, like my suspicion Jason and Kim are cover aliases. That's fair and I don't deny it, BUT, you don't get to pretend this is an honest man to be trusted and that there is something wrong with us for being suspicious of him. That will never, ever, fly.

I'm not going to even get into all the dodging of straight questions, the lack of proof despite your claims, and the harrassment RF has engaged in whether or not DM is still there. It's besides the point for this post.

The point is, you can't pretend like everything is hunky-dory. You want to be treated as reasonable? Then BE REASONABLE. DM is not able to be considered an honest individual for aliases alone. You cannot pretend you knew nothing of all this given your long personal history. We will not likely ever agree on everything but if you want to have a dialogue and not feel attacked and doubted at every turn, try a touch of honesty on something, anything. Take responsibility, you have made tons of mistakes. Maybe I have to, but I stand by what I have said and if there ever is real, true proof that I am wrong on something I'll be the first to man up. So far, you have given 50 reasons to doubt the existence of Kim and Jason for every 1 you've given to believe it. Realize that.

I'd like to take this moment to remind the community(before it gets denied) that Kim aka Stephanie Hernandez was in a relationship with Daniel, which is confirmed both on Susans Obit page as well as in picture proof messages from Jason at RF.

There is no way she can claim ignorance of Daniels prior actions.

Kim called me once and left an odd message which I uploaded here. She also called me on Monday, but didn't let me get a single word in before hanging up on me. No discussion took place, no concerns were addressed.

I am not Dakka.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=538614812840946&set=a.470645399637888.98164.464657756903319&type=1&theater
yet he'd never read dakka again.

Belgium. The New Germany Oh boy, Daniel has less education than the miniatures he's converting. Or are you so obsessed with the Nazis that Freud got to you?

Plus he will be hard-pressed to fabricate any post of ours saying that RF is a fraudster. I'll go and get something to eat and drink, the next meltdown is coming

And with fake lawyers, good luck with suing, Daniel. By the way, how are things going with your new Danish lawyer? All nice and shiny on your secret consultations?

P.S.: highly entertaining how with each maniac comment he writes some likes disappear

I like how RF keeps saying we are "keeping them from closing" by updating this thread.

They could just ignore it and go quietly. You know how Apple deals with haters? They ignore them.

This thread is not harassment, it's not anything. They choose to read it, to come to this site.

Still no business registration.

Just to stop the confusion on my part;
- Daniel allegedly parted company with Resin Forge roughly two weeks ago
- Daniel is no longer a part of Resin Forge
- Resin Forge's remaining members want to wrap up the store and move on because they had no idea of his alleged past
- Resin Forge are spending a lot of time discussing what happened with Daniel's mother (rest her soul), and in great depth.

For Resin Forge to take this route, after having little to no idea of Daniel's alleged past, and after the negative publicity generated by their associated with this individual, after trying to make good on some of his alleged debts which they knew nothing about, seems a little bit counter productive.

God, I've actually sat and went through his facebook page....

I wouldn't believe the blokes fething radio.

Still no business registration.

And still no Horus Heresy Weekender pics.

I like how RF keeps saying we are "keeping them from closing" by updating this thread.

They could just ignore it and go quietly. You know how Apple deals with haters? They ignore them.

This thread is not harassment, it's not anything. They choose to read it, to come to this site.

He HAS to come back. It's an urge he can't resist. Come, see:
"Narcissists cultivate sources of narcissistic supply in an all-consuming life-long effort. This is why they keep coming back for more."

Narcissistic individuals use various strategies to protect the self at the expense of others. They tend to devalue, derogate and blame others, and they respond to threatening feedback with anger and hostility.

Check.

People who are overly narcissistic commonly feel rejected, humiliated and threatened when criticised. To protect themselves from these dangers, they often react with disdain, rage, and/or defiance to any slight criticism, real or imagined.

Check.


EDIT:


And he is clearly obsessed with Germans. Narcissistic Teutonophobia, intriguing
And of course they don't offer any concrete suggestion how either Dakka or the Lex could actually stop Resin Forge (if they wanted, which is not the case) from delivering goods to their customers. But it's always good to already set up scapegoats for later

At no point, to my knowledge, have RF claimed to know or not know about Daniels past, they never committed to anything. verifiably though, there is no way in heck at the very least Kim was not very, very aware of some of his past. And let's face it, 20% of his past activities are about 2000% worse than the next worst guy. No way to pretend like they thought everything was perfectly on the up and up. Especially as it was a week or two between closing TSS and opening RF, 'they' had to be aware of something going on at the time, it's not like Mandelbaum would have been pre-meditating RF while engaged in another similar business for months ahead of that.

Stay vigilant. Stay safe. Stay Dakka!

Very nice strawman attempt there as well with the Maelstrom reference.

He means apart from the big featurette uncovering with his paypal messages that he faked one of the paypal messages he sent around as "proof"? Yes, Daniel, exchanging one name for another is called faking Gotta find something better than that, Daniel

 Inquisitor S. wrote:


He means apart from the big featurette uncovering with his paypal messages that he faked one of the paypal messages he sent around as "proof"? Yes, Daniel, exchanging one name for another is called faking Gotta find something better than that, Daniel

And that brings into question ALL screenshots he might post, as it's very easy to rewrite the source for a page, save it, and make it look like a legitimate page.

12thRonin wrote:
Very nice strawman attempt there as well with the Maelstrom reference.

He evidently missed the thread on it, and the amount of cleaning up that the mods had to do on the Meirce kickstarter thread

And that brings into question ALL screenshots he might post, as it's very easy to rewrite the source for a page, save it, and make it look like a legitimate page.

Of course. Making it even more hilarious how (and that is typical Mandelbaum) dumb you have to be to overlook such details in your orchestrated effort to build your Potemkin village. Do you think he considers himself a mastermind?

And no worries. I think apart from his cult followers nobody believes anything anymore. All people new to the discussion will just enter the name in a search engine and guess which is the first search result they will hit on. Yep. Exactly.

As for his teutonophobia: we hope it does not shatter his remaining self confidence if we reveal that the biggest share of our readers come from the US, followed by the UK?



Ah, conspiracy theories again We have HIDDEN all bad posts about him. Yes, that must be the reason why he can't find anything incriminating. And he doesn't even seem to read what he presents as "proof" to his faithful flock. The post he shows does not even contain any mention of DM or RF

Here the text to see and read again, Daniel, and please continue, we here at the Lex HQ (sizeable portion of Team assembled already) are having a good time watching your debate club performance :

You know what the problem for scammers in the miniature trade is? They need physical addresses. And addresses mean there is a data trail.

So since a often mentioned company refused to make a statement whether or not allegations made by a big forum were true (or not), we did not have much choice than to make our own, independent investigation. It took a bit to find somebody who had done trade with said company and who was willing to talk, but we found somebody. This person also swore to all that is sacred that he had not been scammed by said company. After explaining the situation he agreed to give us one of the addresses where he sent his parcels in the past. Since he assumed the company to be legit, there was nothing to hide in his opinion - an opinion that is obviously not shared by the company itself.

So with this address it was a matter of seconds to access publicly and legally accessible municipal data about who was registered there.
And, do you know who? Yes, indeed it was a name that was a 100% fit on one of the four names given in the accusations of the big forum and a name that diverse witnesses mention together with scamming, fraud, harassing, telephone terror etc etc.

So now we have a person with the same name operating from the same city as several well-known scammers. And we have a company which has holed up and refuses to acknowledge that.

So if we were some of the supporters of said company or if we had, let's say given them money to bring us stuff from the Horus Heresy Weekender (by the way: did you even think how much it costs to fly two people from the US to the UK to pick up Forge World stuff?) we would for sure sit down for a second and think:
Maybe, maybe, maybe there is indeed something fishy.

Thank you for your attention, stay safe and be vigilant

P.S.: @the company: report this post as much as you want, we have copies and we have already submitted our findings to Facebook ourselves

Publicly accessible link: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=517131798322898&set=pb.100000782488216.-2207520000.1371054726.&type=3&theater

Oh jeez, somebody hand me a tissue to dry off the laughter tears

EDIT: and here the next guy we don't even know on his way to being banned, oh the humanities ^^

to the RF supporters reading this: RF sent a C&D to DakkaDakka's owner...
the offending thread was deleted...
job' a good 'un, mission accomplished...

it was later discovered that the lawer who signed, and the firm it came from, did not exist...
the C&D letter still had the intended effect of Dakka deleting the thread about RF being run by Daniel...
how is that being scammed???
RF got what they paid for...

the clue is in the title of this thread: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum...

the previous thread was to inform the community that Daniel was the owner, and had done people wrong with his previous projects...
RF said Daniel Mandelbaum was not one of the owners...
they then sent the C&D telling Dakka to take down the thread saying that Daniel Mandelbaum was the owner, which Dakka did, and to stop spreading slander and lies...
the C&D was signed by one Daniel Mandelbaum...
truth is, indeed, stranger than fiction...

cheers
jah

Well, from their recent screen caps it seems that they have some image editing software. Maybe they'll kindly put it to good use and post some HH Weekend pictures with faces obscured, or just cropped out.

What i dont understand is why is dakka continuing to nitpicket this when its already dead because the store is done and close up shop really think its over zealous and what is the point? It really makes me think 40k community low.

RF by continually attacking is the one causing this to contine. If they had closed up shop we wouldnt have anything to talk about.

RF by continually attacking is the one causing this to contine. If they had closed up shop we wouldnt have anything to talk about.

In fact this thread lay dormant for over 24 hours until RF renewed its comments this morning....

Yep. Every time he feels neglected by public attention he decides to put up a new crazy post. Attention w... orker

 Solace wrote:
What i dont understand is why is dakka continuing to nitpicket this when its already dead because the store is done and close up shop really think its over zealous and what is the point? It really makes me think 40k community low.

As a new member, with your first post, please allow me to say welcome to Dakka. I hope you'll stay around and share some images of your work and get to know the community here. I hope that'll alleviate any low feelings about the 40K community

 Solace wrote:
What i dont understand is why is dakka continuing to nitpicket this when its already dead because the store is done and close up shop really think its over zealous and what is the point? It really makes me think 40k community low.

Fully understandable to think that their store is closed, but they have made several statements over the past week or so about closing up, and yet there are just as many posts about them taking orders

what iv read so far on dakka are a bunch of people attacking them and as a business that RF is they do have the right to defend them selves from rumors or speculations.

also about closing they have to sell what they have or get stuck with the products and stores do promote online or real life as they last death throws. honestly im considering buying to see for my self if these allegations here are true.

 Solace wrote:
What i dont understand is why is dakka continuing to nitpicket this when its already dead because the store is done and close up shop really think its over zealous and what is the point? It really makes me think 40k community low.

3 things -

1st - welcome to dakka!
2nd - the store has not 'closed', they are continuing to take orders and sell on their FB page in a very risky manner to their customers. There was no logical reason for them to move transactions to PMs instead of using their storefront, it is shady as heck.
3rd - regardless of whether or not RF continues to exist or not, we will always be watching and warning others about Daniel Mandelbaum and people willingly associated with him. You can go to the first post of this thread to see multiple absolutely overwhelming, disturbing and incontrovertible examples as to why this is a perfectly reasonable course of action for any honest member of the community to engage in. If years upon years of evidence, aliases and lies do not convince you there is trouble here, then there isn't much we can say to you. I hope you do find it completely satisfactory though if you do review it.


This isn't a witch-hunt. It's neighbourhood watch. Big bloody difference.

Tallon Amaya
its interesting they said that this is a fake and was done by a pic editor program? think i read somewhere someone said it dosent matter if theirs proof or arent scammers? correct if i am wrong

No wonder he can convince people who are not even able to understand (let's not start about writing) English. @Dreadclaw, your post about editting out faces from the HH weekender post was just turned into an accusation that RF's screenshot was faked.



Do you think following DM too closely leads to his bad spelling and grammar rubbing off on the followers?

P.S.: Solace repeats the exact same lines as this other guy. What was his name again? Glasses? Shades? Sth like that. Coincidence? Btw: welcome ^^

 Solace wrote:
what iv read so far on dakka are a bunch of people attacking them and as a business that RF is they do have the right to defend them selves from rumors or speculations.

also about closing they have to sell what they have or get stuck with the products and stores do promote online or real life as they last death throws. honestly im considering buying to see for my self if these allegations here are true.

Resin Forge has had a few minor incidents. This thread is not about saying Resin Forge has been stealing. It is about saying that Resin Forge is factually and unquestionably involved with someone known to suddenly take orders, not fill them and abandon businesses.

I am in fact sure that RF would fill your order while under the current scrutiny. So by all means go ahead.

This thread and the warnings are about history indicating that they have stolen and might steal again, not that they are currently doing so. The risk is yours to take, by all means, send them your money. If you are capable of logic though, and have reviewed the history, you know that these are not 'accusastions and rumors' but documented fact for many, many items. There is some speculation at this point, sure. But the events in the past are beyond question.

If you want to convince us, or anyone, why we have no real evidence you are going to have to do much better than just saying it, because the giant pile of evidence right next to you seems to disagree. If baseless accusations are what make people the bad guys, then it is Mandelbaum, not the community that is the villain.

 Solace wrote:
what iv read so far on dakka are a bunch of people attacking them and as a business that RF is they do have the right to defend them selves from rumors or speculations.

also about closing they have to sell what they have or get stuck with the products and stores do promote online or real life as they last death throws. honestly im considering buying to see for my self if these allegations here are true.

But if you haven't ordered before, they said they will not take your order. So are you already a customer, is this a vain attempt at either bad trolling, or a fictional character based off a footwear conversion.

 Solace wrote:
honestly im considering buying to see for my self if these allegations here are true.

Welcome to dakka!

That is the worst idea ever by the way.... how can you read through this thread at length and come to that conclusion, when it may end up costing you money?

I haven't bought anything from RF, but there is too much evidence here to think that buying off them is a good idea.

There is no smoke without fire! Ariel Castro pleaded not guilty today, I don't know if the allegations about him are true either, but by the evidence presented I certainly won't be sending my daughter round to do his laundry for him!

 yakface wrote:



Naturally anyone interested in Mr. Mandelbaum and any of his alleged aliases (such as Matthew Bonder, RedStarOne, Lord.Serpius, Kellz1234, Susan Beasley) or his alleged involvement with a number of now defunct sites/businesses while using those aliases (such as Conversion Corner, Miniature Wargame Conversions, Three Stage Studios, Lord.Serpius ebay account, Great.Hobby.Bits ebay account, Double.Your.Bits ebay account) should feel free to do their own research and come to their own conclusions.

And for anyone taking notes, The above linkys are the big pile of steaming evidence of past dealings.

That is the worst idea ever by the way.... how can you read through this thread at length and come to that conclusion, when it may end up costing you money?

Because no matter what you say, Solace will not change his opinion.

@Solace: Come on, go and buy, DM has some nice conversions up for grabs All yours for the taking If you are lucky you can make a killer deal! And you are pretty sure to get them very fast, as DM will do all he can to make sure he can show off another defender

Go for it, man (woman), go for it!

P.S.: Daniel, please take a screenshot to show on your page how Lex is telling peope to buy your products please

I dont recall spelling properly was a mandatory rule here or that it looks the same as to that person. Some people actually have limitations and hesitate to join anything social so they dont get ridicule but i will try my best to avoid this.

This really makes me think low of 40k community.

thank you tom.

well the site is up but i cant buy anything because their is no buy option i also PM RF about buying a product but was told they no longer selling anything to any customers.

really wanted to buy this for my Death Guard captain

http://resinforge.com/ourshop/prod_2483944-Assault-Mk4-Legion-Hand-Flamer-Pistol-Left-handed.html

it still has the price on it but as you can see their is no BUY option anywhere.

Daniel has NEVER managed to prove that he, or any of his compatriots / co owners went to the HH weekender.

My first posts on this were that, given his statement tha the would be going, I was more than certain there would be people from the TSS / RSO / MW days that would want a word. And then he banned me, after I made public conversations (which I never said I would keep private).

I even offered to buy a pint for anyone claiming to be from RF if they made themselves known to me on the Evening of the HH weekender in the bar attached to the Belfry hotel - no one did.

It was following this that the whole 'we're in all our photos' malarkey started.....

Also - nobody on here has ever mentioned MandelBonders mother in anything but sympathetic terms, except to show disgust that he *may* have used her details in lieue of his own to potentially cause mischief. At no point have I read anywhere MandelBonder referred to as a 'Norman Bates' type character. The only abuse came from a post by a 'burner' account that every one here agreed was morally reprehensible.

Over to you Daniel - nobody has managed to close down your business, you have done that. All that it would have taken was either a) proof you went to the HH Weekender or b) 'fessing up to telling a porky....
Everybody needs a second chance, but this is business 4? 5? Think you used yours up a while ago...

 Solace wrote:
I dont recall spelling properly was a mandatory rule here or that it looks the same as to that person. Some people actually have limitations and hesitate to join anything social so they dont get ridicule but i will try my best to avoid this.

Proper spelling and grammar is a part of Dakka rule 1. But we're understanding for the most part, and we understand people have dyslexia and other such difficulties with processing words.

Mattyrm thanks!

Iv just been a lurker on here for year's really and just decided to sign up.

did a search couple months ago on bits and found some posts about RF and just following really.

@Solace
Welcome to Dakka! As a fresh faced new user myself, I'd recommend you take a look at everything the site has to offer. There are really some Grade A conversions, painting tutorials, tactica discussions, and everything else you can want here on the Dakka forums. It is a wealth of information and comraderie for the gaming community.

That being said, I would like to pose you a question;
What specifically in this thread has not set off warning bells about this company for you, and what specifically are you referencing in your allegations that this thread is all just an attack against RF store?

Lets Review;
1. RF is discovered to be partly owned by one Daniel Mandelbaum, who is proven in the OP to have NUMEROUS shady dealings in the community and operating under multiple identities, which in itself should be a siren wailing in your head to begin with.
2. RF takes steps to try and reconcile their image with being associated with DM by refunding a few past customers of DM (which, imho goes a long way to redeeming the company in my eyes).
3. After restitution has been made, there are lingering doubts to who is running the RF business after RF announces DM quit. DM is known to make up fake identities, or use real identities of those who knows without them knowing to attempt to continue his activities, therefore the skepticism in this thread and on Lexicanum are imo fairly justified.
4. Dakka members and Lex communicate that the best way RF can redeem themselves would be to provide incontrovertible proof that they are A. a legitimate business operating in accordance with Texas State Law, and B. are not made up alias's of one Daniel Mandelbaum, proving RF is free and clear of the negative stigma associated with this individual. Again, I find this more than a fair and reasonable request considering that one of the remaining co-owners is proven to have been involved in a relationship with DM for quite some time, and was even admitted to in part by RF themselves.
5. RF states that they are getting their information together to get a new business registration showing DM is no longer part of the company, and acquiring other requested proof by Dakka members. Hours later RF does a complete 180, stating that they arent even going to bother to get the new registration and that they are going out of business due to continued harrasment from dakka and lex.
6. Dakka members state, don't bother getting a new business id number, just provide us your current one to prove you are a legitimate LLC operating in Texas, and that will go a LONG way to smooth things over. RF begins a huge smoke and mirrors campaign on their page to make themselves look like the victim, and ignore any civil discourse and questions posed to them in calm, collected, and logical manners (including my posts which have all been deleted, despite there being absolutley nothing derogatory or indibting in them, just asking simple direct questions)
7. RF continues to claim going out of business, but decides to take their business transactions to PM via facebook which eliminates a lot of the legitimate business practice they had in place via the webstore, casting even more doubt on their store in the eyes of the community.

These actions are highly suspect of ANY company in any consumer field. I am not saying anything about scamming, recasts, or anything of the like. My opinion is based solely upon past actions of DM, and the EXTREMELY sketchy business practices of RF (the way they conduct business is not indicative of a professional company, i am in no way saying they are scamming people or plan to do so, just that their customer service and Public Relations are simply absurd for a reputable company).

And seeing as RF constantly reads this thread but ignores anything I post on their FB page that asks real questions, I pose this statment;
-Why not just provide simple things that the community is asking for to smooth over your image? The guy you were involved with is known to have employed false identities, all people are asking for is for you to proove that you are not in fact one of these cover identities. There is no hate there, no harrasment, just simple caution in dealing with a company that was associated with a gentleman who has used a plethora of fake identities. If you are a legitimate LLC, what is so hard about providing the simple information to prove you are correctly registered in the state of Texas and operating according to state law?

Failing to answer these two fundamental questions is what is causing the massive amount of skepticism in the dakka community. If you can prove that a. you are not a cover ID for mandelbaum, and B. you are a correctly registered business, I would have absolutely no problem in ordering from you. Until then, there is just way to much doubt surrounding your company.

 Solace wrote:
I dont recall spelling properly was a mandatory rule here or that it looks the same as to that person. Some people actually have limitations and hesitate to join anything social so they dont get ridicule but i will try my best to avoid this.

This really makes me think low of 40k community.

thank you tom.

well the site is up but i cant buy anything because their is no buy option i also PM RF about buying a product but was told they no longer selling anything to any customers.

really wanted to buy this for my Death Guard captain

http://resinforge.com/ourshop/prod_2483944-Assault-Mk4-Legion-Hand-Flamer-Pistol-Left-handed.html

it still has the price on it but as you can see their is no BUY option anywhere.

When did I say anything about your spelling lol? You can not like me if you want but at least make sense about it lol. I have intentionally been quite polite with you I fail to see the need for your aggression.

Also of note, Dakka is not the whole 40k community. There are plenty of other sites and people out there. Tarring thousands upon thousands of people with the same brush for no apparent reason is the kind of thing that gets RF in trouble btw.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
When did I say anything about your spelling lol? You can not like me if you want but at least make sense about it lol. I have intentionally been quite polite with you I fail to see the need for your aggression.

Also of note, Dakka is not the whole 40k community. There are plenty of other sites and people out there. Tarring thousands upon thousands of people with the same brush for no apparent reason is the kind of thing that gets RF in trouble btw.

I believe Solace may be referring to Inquisitor S's statement about bad spelling rubbing off on followers. That post was in relation to the quoted comment in that post from Tallon Amaya. Which either means Solace is Tallon Amaya, or (and this is the most likely case) Solace just misread Inquisitor S's statement.

 Solace wrote:
what iv read so far on dakka are a bunch of people attacking them and as a business that RF is they do have the right to defend them selves from rumors or speculations.

...

They could do that very easily by publishing their business registration number.

The fact they do not makes it seem as if they are not a legally registered company. It is a legal requirement to be registered.

So they are making themselves look like a fraud.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
When did I say anything about your spelling lol? You can not like me if you want but at least make sense about it lol. I have intentionally been quite polite with you I fail to see the need for your aggression.

Also of note, Dakka is not the whole 40k community. There are plenty of other sites and people out there. Tarring thousands upon thousands of people with the same brush for no apparent reason is the kind of thing that gets RF in trouble btw.

I believe Solace may be referring to Inquisitor S's statement about bad spelling rubbing off on followers. That post was in relation to the quoted comment in that post from Tallon Amaya. Which either means Solace is Tallon Amaya, or (and this is the most likely case) Solace just misread Inquisitor S's statement.

So why the 'so thanks Tom'?? odd...

The post I was referring to was just before yours, and if Solace is browsing mobile, then avatars won't be showing up.

I dont recall spelling properly was a mandatory rule here or that it looks the same as to that person. Some people actually have limitations and hesitate to join anything social so they dont get ridicule but i will try my best to avoid this.

The spelling remark was indeed (and clearly so) pointed at Tallon Amaya. Therefore there's no reason that Solace should take offense from it. Unless he says he is Tallon. Which I do not say

He is also really obsessed with "winning". Is that a side effect of Resin dust? Or competitive playing? What did we win? A medal? More popcorn? Did everybody of DM's previous customers get their money back? No. Did he man up and admit he is DM? No. Did they come clean? No. Etc etc. Nothing won, because there was nothing to win for anybody apart from DM / RF - they had to win their legitimacy. Which they did not really do very well.



P.S.: And no matter how often he says that the others "won" and that he "closes", we all know he will be back, that he is reading this RIGHT NOW, he can't let it rest. Daniel, you need help.

 Solace wrote:

This really makes me think low of 40k community.

thank you tom.

Alf, this is the part that is confusing MajorTom

For saying hi... Which I singularly failed to do....

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Solace wrote:
what iv read so far on dakka are a bunch of people attacking them and as a business that RF is they do have the right to defend them selves from rumors or speculations.

...

They could do that very easily by publishing their business registration number.

The fact they do not makes it seem as if they are not a legally registered company. It is a legal requirement to be registered.

So they are making themselves look like a fraud.

No need to give anyone a number. Just the legal entities name to be entered into the state of Texas' Taxable Entity Search to verify that it is a legal/registered business entity would suffice for many (fyi : Resin Forge, Resin Forge Store, Resinforge and Resinforge Store do not appear in the search).

This removes the "Haha, our Tax ID number will not be given out because you could use it to steal our business identity" (which was a reason parroted after being written by a user here on Dakka). It's also something that could have been done right from the very beginning to avoid so much drama. Or, you know .. answering simple questions instead of dancing around and making excuses (and verifiable false statements).

*Edit : Of course, at this point it's all academic. Dakka/Lex have "won" and RF is crying the poor victim because of the actions of an incredibly small portion of the community (and an even smaller portion of that small community that sees these messages)! Impressive that such a small group can somehow cause "thousands" of customers to disappear (even though most of them are still saying "wait, what's going on?")

 whitedragon wrote:

 Solace wrote:

This really makes me think low of 40k community.

thank you tom.

Alf, this is the part that is confusing MajorTom

I know, that's why I mentioned that Tom's post was near the Inquisitor S post which was the ONLY post near Tom's that mention spelling. It's totally up to Solace to answer lol we're left in the dark.

Sorry about that tom wasn't towards you. also about the whole 40k community.

Alfndrate you are right about my retaliation i honestly don't like being compared to someone else.

I asked my cousin about this Tax ID and address being showed to customer's just to confirm this. Told me its not a good idea to publicly post such information which could be used for Identity theft. A business also has the right to deny a customers request for such information also law's over sea's are completely different about such information.

Not sure but think their was a post made about it by someone name protoclone.

Sorry for the slow reply browsing dakka site.

In Florida, it's law to have the Tax ID/License on display in the open. You'll generally see it in a photo frame near the counter.

 Solace wrote:
Sorry about that tom wasn't towards you. also about the whole 40k community.

Alfndrate you are right about my retaliation i honestly don't like being compared to someone else.

I asked my cousin about this Tax ID and address being showed to customer's just to confirm this. Told me its not a good idea to publicly post such information which could be used for Identity theft. A business also has the right to deny a customers request for such information also law's over sea's are completely different about such information.

Not sure but think their was a post made about it by someone name protoclone.

Sorry for the slow reply browsing dakka site.

Rorschach9 wrote:
No need to give anyone a number. Just the legal entities name to be entered into the state of Texas' Taxable Entity Search to verify that it is a legal/registered business entity would suffice for many (fyi : Resin Forge, Resin Forge Store, Resinforge and Resinforge Store do not appear in the search).

This removes the "Haha, our Tax ID number will not be given out because you could use it to steal our business identity" (which was a reason parroted after being written by a user here on Dakka). It's also something that could have been done right from the very beginning to avoid so much drama. Or, you know .. answering simple questions instead of dancing around and making excuses (and verifiable false statements).

*Edit : Of course, at this point it's all academic. Dakka/Lex have "won" and RF is crying the poor victim because of the actions of an incredibly small portion of the community (and an even smaller portion of that small community that sees these messages)! Impressive that such a small group can somehow cause "thousands" of customers to disappear (even though most of them are still saying "wait, what's going on?")

As I stated here .. no need for a tax ID or business registration number. A legal business name search in the state of texas (where RF is located) comes up empty.

Welcome to the forums, Solace! Post a bunch. Don't suck!

Make a thread and introduce yourself here!

 Alfndrate wrote:

 whitedragon wrote:

 Solace wrote:

This really makes me think low of 40k community.

thank you tom.

Alf, this is the part that is confusing MajorTom

I know, that's why I mentioned that Tom's post was near the Inquisitor S post which was the ONLY post near Tom's that mention spelling. It's totally up to Solace to answer lol we're left in the dark.

I'm quoting you because I disagree that we are saying the same thing even though we are. ;-)

It should be noted that any person that has a business in Texas not only must have permit and must display it at their place of business. If Resin Forge were a valid business, they would have this permit on display at their home (since they don't have a store front), and a simple picture of that would suffice. Hell I would even block out any tax information that could potentially be used to steal their identity.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:


He means apart from the big featurette uncovering with his paypal messages that he faked one of the paypal messages he sent around as "proof"? Yes, Daniel, exchanging one name for another is called faking Gotta find something better than that, Daniel

Well, Daniel looked for a lawyer to represent him in USA, so he googled German mercenary and found one. That mercenary worked for a company called BritCon. Everything with Con in its name sounds like a decent business. Only later did he find out that the German mercenary is not a US lawyer, so he got seriously scammed. Did I get all the details?

BTW we should inform the German photographer whose identity was used, that Resin Forge is accusing him of fraud.

What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

There was no fraud on the part of BritCon as RF insists. They were paid to issue a C&D, and they did. THEN they pulled a Mandelbondsley and closed up shop before questions got too far in to finding out much about them.

If anything, that points at Daniel as being the one who defrauded Resin Forge as it is the same hit and run tactics hes known to use.

I'm confused as to how RF was scammed. Did the C&D not accomplish its purpose? From what I recall the offending thread was in fact removed.

 Kanluwen wrote:
What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

What mercenary-lawyer sets up an elaborate website to scam one person out of $103 (or 77.55 euros seeing as they were German), sending a C&D email (what they were payed for, so not really a scam) and then vanishing into the aether.

$103 won't even buy you a wraithknight.

It will get you a Fulgrim, though.

 doc1234 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

What mercenary-lawyer sets up an elaborate website to scam one person out of $103 (or 77.55 euros seeing as they were German), sending a C&D email (what they were payed for, so not really a scam) and then vanishing into the aether.

A German Mercenary-lawyer, that's who. As we all know, Merc-Lawyers are in it for the small bucks.

Side note, how much does it cost in the US to have an actual attorney write and send a C&D?

 Aerethan wrote:

 doc1234 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

What mercenary-lawyer sets up an elaborate website to scam one person out of $103 (or 77.55 euros seeing as they were German), sending a C&D email (what they were payed for, so not really a scam) and then vanishing into the aether.

A German Mercenary-lawyer, that's who. As we all know, Merc-Lawyers are in it for the small bucks.

Side note, how much does it cost in the US to have an actual attorney write and send a C&D?

Could be why DM seems to be out for Germans, maybe he's convinced himself all Germans are lawyers?

And as far as i know being none US he could have sent one himself for free.

Er i just spotted this gem in the middle of the pile of we're the victim posts (i have removed the posters name ) since sending a C&D to Dakka started the latest rounds of Where's Danial (it's like Where's Wally but not so hard ) have we gone full circle ? Should we be getting ready for German Ninja Mercenary Lawyers 2 ?

Hi. I've never been fortunate enough to be a customer, but love your customs. As for this douche bag who keeps posting about you, sue. Seriously. Put it to rest. You're adding more to the community than they do. I've been gaming and painting since 1981 and those kind of trolls have no place. You have my support. Good luck, and take this person to task. If Dakka got a Cease and Desist letter from a lawyer, they'd shut him up. Just do it. We'll stand by you. Their claims seem without basis, so eviscerate them.
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I'd point that little interesting point out to them, but RF has me blocked from their page.

Could be why DM seems to be out for Germans, maybe he's convinced himself all Germans are lawyers?

You mean he is secretly convinced that Dakka is just a front for German Nazi-Lexicanum in the conspiracy to ruin Texan-Jewish small businesses and because of that only German lawyer-mercenaries were an option? That is quite clever actually.

Hi. I've never been fortunate enough to be a customer, but love your customs. As for this douche bag who keeps posting about you, sue. Seriously. Put it to rest. You're adding more to the community than they do. I've been gaming and painting since 1981 and those kind of trolls have no place. You have my support. Good luck, and take this person to task. If Dakka got a Cease and Desist letter from a lawyer, they'd shut him up. Just do it. We'll stand by you. Their claims seem without basis, so eviscerate them.

What is so interesting about that? Apart from threatening bodily violence and therefore being "liable"?
And how comes that almost all of RF's staunch defenders seem to have no clue what words they are using or what they are supposed to say? One could almost think that people are paid to write posts But at least it's nice that in all that mess somebody loves customs, they don't get much love nowadays...

So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

For who? Forgeworld? The Evil Alliance of Anti-Texan Bitz-resellers?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

For who? Forgeworld? The Evil Alliance of Anti-Texan Bitz-resellers?

Dammit Lex, now our secret is out. The EAATBS will not go quietly!!!

The mission here was accomplished the moment that Yakface posted the C&D. Everything after that has been RF digging it's own grave by not shutting up.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

For who? Forgeworld? The Evil Alliance of Anti-Texan Bitz-resellers?

Actually I was thinking that DB is probably totally fine with this as he will just start up again as someone else, again.

He will. Then we will do all this over again. Unless he figures out that there are better ways to spend his time that going through this once or twice a year. Get a job at Walmart or something dude. Leave the bits and conversion business to those who can be trusted.

Actually I was thinking that DB is probably totally fine with this as he will just start up again as someone else, again.

It was his, and only his decision in the first place. His existing customers didn't care anyway. If your business plan relies on continuous expansion, well...

The weirdest part about this whole thing is that ResinForge responded to this thread on their facebook, but their followers, the majority of them, have no idea what they're responding to. It's like watching someone arguing with someone else on the phone or - more worryingly - thin air. Reading their page without any context is really confusing.

At least in the current one they put up a screenshot. A screenshot somewhat out of context, but a screenshot nonetheless.

 Solace wrote:
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I asked my cousin about this Tax ID and address being showed to customer's just to confirm this. Told me its not a good idea to publicly post such information which could be used for Identity theft. A business also has the right to deny a customers request for such information also law's over sea's are completely different about such information.

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I am not asking for tax ID. I am asking for their business registration number, which in Texas it is a legal requirement for them to have.

He's back to all out professional victimhood on facebook now.

Poor thing. Such a shame when innocent people are victimized by nasty internets. Good thing in this case he is merely reaping the lush rewards of years of aliases, lies, taking money without giving anything in return and generally being a loon.

Sorry Danny pretending your record isn't there and crying about it isn't going to change anything. We've got your number.

For not being Daniel they sure are complaining alot about how mean people are to Daniel.

Of course no explanation why they can't use their fancy image editing technology they use for screen caps and post Weekender pictures without faces.

And no explanation why they provided the same Paypal dispute with two different names.

Just Daniel being Daniel, but it seems like people are getting pretty wise to how crazy he is.

The explanation for the 2 names on paypal screenshots is simple: they were trying to hide Kim's real name, which is Stephanie Hernandez, who we had already tied to Daniel with rather sufficient evidence, which Daniel then screwed himself on by showing an actual screenshot instead of an edited forward email.

When he forwarded the paypal info, he changed the name to Kim. Then a few days later he messaged screenshots of it instead, and he wasn't smart enough to edit the web source to change the name(which in Paypal is harder than it looks it would seem).


EDIT: Turns out it isn't as difficult to edit Paypals source info as it first seems, just not a one click copy and paste.



Moderator edit: I understand the point you're trying to make with the pic you posted, but please refrain from posting Photoshopped images that will likely confuse people who don't read your post carefully enough.

 Aerethan wrote:
The explanation for the 2 names on paypal screenshots is simple: they were trying to hide Kim's real name, which is Stephanie Hernandez, who we had already tied to Daniel with rather sufficient evidence, which Daniel then screwed himself on by showing an actual screenshot instead of an edited forward email.

When he forwarded the paypal info, he changed the name to Kim. Then a few days later he messaged screenshots of it instead, and he wasn't smart enough to edit the web source to change the name(which in Paypal is harder than it looks it would seem).


EDIT: Turns out it isn't as difficult to edit Paypals source info as it first seems, just not a one click copy and paste.



Moderator edit: I understand the point you're trying to make with the pic you posted, but please refrain from posting Photoshopped images that will likely confuse people who don't read your post carefully enough.

They didn't post screen shots of the PayPal with Stephanie's name on it, they forwarded the emails to me, and I screen shoted them off my phone to give to Lex per their request that I share them with him and Dakka. Never saw the ones with Kim's name on them personally, though I did see Lex's screen shots of that one.

He's back to all out professional victimhood on facebook now.

What did he do now? Complain that Lex sent somebody to spill his breakfast cereal? Don't see any new posts. He still has his minions, at least there are still people talking to him People who can't read, but hey, who is gonna be choosy in his situation?

 mattyrm wrote:
how can you read through this thread at length and come to that conclusion, when it may end up costing you money?

Some people just gotta put their hand on the (FIGURATIVE) stove for themselves...

 Forar wrote:

 mattyrm wrote:
how can you read through this thread at length and come to that conclusion, when it may end up costing you money?

Some people just gotta put their hand on the (FIGURATIVE) stove for themselves...

My job pretty much consists of watching this occur; it's actually pretty fun.

Okay, I keep seeing all the posts that RF is shutting down but is there any actual evidence of this? Their web page is still up and looks functional and they're still posting to their FB page.

No. Daniel Mandelbaum has stated repeatedly ad nauseam that RF is shutting down in the hope that Dakka et al will give up and leave him alone to continue his business,

I heard that Stephanie / Kim Hernandez has bought out the other owner -- Jason (?) -- and will be continuing the business by herself. I don't know what's happening to the PR professional.

I look forwards to her new Texas business registration being published soon. 30 days is the legal time limit, I believe.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I heard that Stephanie / Kim Hernandez has bought out the other owner -- Jason (?) -- and will be continuing the business by herself. I don't know what's happening to the PR professional.

Where did you hear that?

 AduroT wrote:
Where did you hear that?

Given RF's monitoring of this thread I think it falls under "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies"

Daniel Mandelbaum's Resin Forge Store is still up, but I can't seem to put any items in the basket. It appears you have to sign up with an email address and a password.

Yeah right, like I'd give that guy my email address.

 kronk wrote:
Daniel Mandelbaum's Resin Forge Store is still up, but I can't seem to put any items in the basket. It appears you have to sign up with an email address and a password.

Yeah right, like I'd give that guy my email address.

If I recall the RF Facebook page said that the shopping cart on the retail site had been disabled, but you could still order stock by Facebook PM.

A few days after they announced that, you could still put stuff in the shopping cart.

Perhaps you're right, though.

An update has been stickied on the RF facebook page about them still taking orders through PM, the actual post is from 6/8/13.

He seems to think that we've forgotten about him, which is ridiculous.

New Update from the Resin Forge FB Page (sorry it's not a screen shot)

"Hi, My name is Ms. Stephanie Kimberly Hernanzdez. I go by Kim to all my friends and colleagues. I have recently acquired (via purchase) the Resin Forge name, inventory stock that's left remaining and the mailing list to customers that are g...etting this very email right now. I would like to formally introduce myself to all you loyal and (or course) repeat customs. Many of you already know me, so HI!! *waves*

There has been much talk and rumors flying around attacking one of the former owners. Daniel and Jason are no longer a part of Resin Forge. I am now the sole owner and operator of Resin Forge, both have since quit. In the interest of honesty, they were not fired. Both quit due to their own personal reasons stemming from the drama related to all of this. I myself will not walk away so easily. We helped resolved one owners single debt (as no one else has come forward that can actually be verified) and the other quit as mentioned above. We did not fire Daniel because we as a company wanted to help the community and resolve a problem. We did just that. If anyone needs contact info on Daniel, we can provide it but after 5 weeks, It seems if someone was owed anything they would have come forward by now. We did list a customer service number after all.

As for Resin Forge itself, it has not had any outstanding orders and again, in the interest of honesty, only 3 upset customers out of more than could be counted off hand. Two of which had custom numbers that stopped updating at Chicago. We refunded them from our own pockets, I guess you could say my own now. The third was waiting for a book and after a period of time he requested a refund, which also was given.

Being the now sole owner of Resin Forge, I wish to alleviate all concerns anyone may have. As the transition takes over, only the company name will stay the same, Resin Forge. I will be filling it as my own personal LLC and have had advice about going the DBA route instead. It will take research and in the mean time, the store will stay closed. We will also go ahead and make our UK customers feel safe with a listed phone number as well as a public address listed plainly for all to see. This will allow in store pickup for locals as well as the comfort for our overseas brothers and sisters in the community.

I have plans to come back bigger, stronger and tougher. Rumors are rumors and I dare anyone to find any on me or whats now, my company, shared with no one else in any way shape or form. If there are lingering doubts as to who I really am, I am more than willing to let anyone hear my voice and discuss orders or anything else. I will not discuss Daniel or Jason, however.

I would like to end with, the actions of "adult children" both on our side and others, is not right. We at Resin Forge apologize for any thing that may have been posted by former owners on FB. Things like that will never happen again. Resin Forge is now on lock down so to speak. Or another phrase that works, I have put my foot down on the drama so things go back to running as smooth as they had for the 7 solid months we were open..

I already have a ton of ideas in the works to make Resin Forge and its customers some of the happiest around!

Everyone have a great weekend and I do hope to hear from you all (nice people only)! (one can dream can't she?)


Its also worth noting that we have a Moderator now here to help me out as I cant spend all day here. @AJ Thronton (he will be posting shortly. As I sign out now...

(Kim)"

Will RF unban me from their page now? I never caused drama but was banned from their page after posting a comment stating that they had a "racist" comment get defended by whomever was in charge of the fb page (Jason at that time I believe)

Interesting development.

A refusal to talk about Daniel and an attempt to blame both sides equally; 'adult children'. The problem was one sided and still is until business registration details are publidhed

Interestingly his friend list has no Kim, Stephanie, Jason, nor Daniel. And for wanting to have a professional image, having a moderator with that sort of FB name seems a little strange.

Smoke and mirrors.

Hi Daniel Mandelbaum.

*waves*

To be fair to them, neither of those posts have any of the terrible spelling/grammar that is so typical of Daniel's...

Who knows, maybe they are trying to stick to the straight and narrow... I will certainly be waiting to see what develops here, I sincerely hope they do manage to improve their currently shady reputation.

Even if this is legit, why would anyone use the name RF after all the drama behind it. I would have just started a whole other business and just bought out the RF stock. After reading everything about RF, I would be nervous about ordering no matter who claims they own it.

 squall018 wrote:
Even if this is legit, why would anyone use the name RF after all the drama behind it. I would have just started a whole other business and just bought out the RF stock. After reading everything about RF, I would be nervous about ordering no matter who claims they own it.

Maybe they felt that they have enough of an existing customer base to continue operating with the Resin Forge name.

Would you be able to file for an LLC without proof of identification? Since that's public knowledge, wouldn't we see who filed the application?

Or am I missing something?

 squall018 wrote:
Even if this is legit, why would anyone use the name RF after all the drama behind it. I would have just started a whole other business and just bought out the RF stock. After reading everything about RF, I would be nervous about ordering no matter who claims they own it.

Because they already paid for all those FB likes!

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 squall018 wrote:
Even if this is legit, why would anyone use the name RF after all the drama behind it. I would have just started a whole other business and just bought out the RF stock. After reading everything about RF, I would be nervous about ordering no matter who claims they own it.

Maybe they felt that they have enough of an existing customer base to continue operating with the Resin Forge name.

That's fair I guess. Even still, there's a lot of damage control to be done... and that's assuming this is legit.

 squall018 wrote:
That's fair I guess. Even still, there's a lot of damage control to be done... and that's assuming this is legit.

That might be an understatement. Google "Resin Forge" and out of the top seven results we have the store, it's Facebook and four less than positive results about Resin Forge and it's association with an alleged former owner.

Lol, they played the 'we're shutting down you won' victim card to the hilt and now they reneg on what they said they would do again -

Whatever.

Kim/Daniel whoever you are who seems to be so convinced that 'evidence' is your word alone and that we should all just take your word for it after all of this and your being/being associated with Daniel Mandelbaum is not a stink that will wash off just because you say so. I would still never in a million years buy from StephaKim on that alone.

But for the record, I don't buy for a second this isn't still Mandelbaum.

Want to start taking a bit of responsibility and make it harder to cast doubts (which is extremely easy when you just say 'now I'm this person and I'm gonna do X,Y,Z so that's proof and anyone attacking us is a hater'. That's not proof, that's a statement from someone not to be trusted in the first place. You'll have to do better.

You can start with:

- Providing your business registration number
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence.
- Providing the previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever.

That will help.

As a suggestion, acknowledging that Mandelbaum indeed has a terrible history and addressing the disgusting track-history he had with the community, the aliases, the lies, the deadbeat service, all of it. As long as you pretend like that is made up, or that it is somehow up for debate, you will never, ever, ever be free from guilt by association. He is one of the absolute worst the community has ever known, we will never forget.

So long as you keep dodging over and over and over again instead of addressing the business # (both past and present) and the HH weekender, you are starting the race already having lost.

Hey guys I just want to chime into this firestorm.

My names Aj Thornton and yes I am the new page manager of the resin forge Facebook page. I was a customer before and never had an issue with any orders.
I understand sometimes things happen in business and bad practice can leave a bitter taste, but I assure you that any problem will be dealt with.

As for my Facebook page, I've had the same account since 2006 when I was a freshman in high school back in 2006. Yes the name is inappropriate but Facebook will not allow me to change it and I'm not going to lose the memories and friends I have on Facebook because of that. I only linked my profile in my post to introduce myself, show that I am a real person (as in not dm) and to provide a way for people to contact me in regards to the Facebook page. I have no personal connection to any of the previous owners of resin forge and therefore have no reason to have them on my friends list.

Whether or not you like Daniel he has left the business. IF you do not trust Kim to follow through with her promises and to fullfill orders then do not order, but the insults and hatred are not necessary.
If you personally were ripped off by Daniel or resin forge, there is a hotline number that can be called. If you still are unsatisfied with the resolution, contact us and we will do whatever we can to work it out with you.
All of these claims take time away from providing a great customer experience and that is why I offered to help Kim out. I have worked retail since I was 16 and been a commission painter on the slider since I was 14. I am here to manage content and Facebook and help with any issues that I can.
I apologise for any misspelling in this post. I am posting from a cracked iPod screen. I will run a spellcheck from my pc later.

I wish you all well, happy modeling!
Aj

Did you take down all of the anti-German slurs that Daniel posted on your facebook page, AJ?

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