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INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 02:55:11


Post by: d-usa


To borrow from GW terminology: it just sounds cinematic to have your hurt guy slung over the tractor, trying to evac under fire...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 03:51:35


Post by: -Loki-


Infinity does cinematic better than 40k ever will. With a good ruleset.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 04:11:46


Post by: d-usa


 -Loki- wrote:
Infinity does cinematic better than 40k ever will. With a good ruleset.


And is able to do this without ever having to tell you to make things "cinematic".


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 07:38:40


Post by: PsychoticStorm


 d-usa wrote:
To borrow from GW terminology: it just sounds cinematic to have your hurt guy slung over the tractor, trying to evac under fire...


I used cinematic to describe how Infinity feels almost 8 years before GW "invented" the word to excuse their poor rules.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 08:45:26


Post by: Pacific


Reading the 'Hostile Environment' rules, although they seem really cool (and the scope for imagination there in setting is immense!) what is the actual logic between having a high burst weapon and being more vulnerable to whatever reason the environment is hostile? Or visa-versa?

Imagine for a moment that you are fighting in a vacuum, or on an alien world that is teeming with millions of tiny poisonous spiders (the most uncomfortable thing I could think of! ) how would firing your weapon more make you any more susceptible to that? Or are we talking about something that is purely a gameplay mechanic and balancing tool?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 10:57:28


Post by: The CF


Well... i'm not sure how to implement in any other way without adding more dice rolls. And I don't want consecutive dice rolls like in warhammer, so I'm happy the way it's implemented.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 14:08:10


Post by: BobbaFett



EYE CANDY PARTY!!!!!
Infinity October releases.

The Steel Phalanx. ALEPH.





Uxia McNeill (Covert Action). Ariadna.




Crusader Brethen. PanOceania




Wu Ming. Yu Jing.




Imetron and Ikadron Batroid. Combined Army.




Gao-Rael Unit. Tohaa.





INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 14:16:20


Post by: Alpharius


All are awesome, and I'm psyched to finally have a model for the CA Imetron!

Also, cue Kan's rant about exposed skin on Uxia - even though he can just paint it as cloth if he wants!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 14:28:26


Post by: BobbaFett


Uxia is in combat pose, non overly sexualized, badassery over 9.000!!!

She's the one. CB reallly reads the forums.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 14:31:14


Post by: Kanluwen


HOW DARE UXIA NOT WEAR A MASK! This is unacceptable!

Boycott! Boycott! Boycott!

(Happy, Alph? )

I'm surprisingly impressed by The Steel Phalanx starter box. Irked however that it is released before the Corregidor starter box.
I really like Eudoros and the new infantry in the box.

I like Uxia, for the most part. The skin doesn't bug me this time...it's the ponytail!


Don't really care about the Crusader Bretheren, but it's a nice model.
Imetron and Ikadron are nice. My brother is gonna love those.

We've already seen the Wu Ming, they're okay.

The Gao-Rael is tempting me. A sniper model who is actually sniping?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 14:41:57


Post by: Alpharius


The pony tail is easily removed - and it will be removed!

The Tohaa to date aren't doing it for me.

It is all going to come down to the Tohaa T.A.G. for me.

Though to be honest, I'm OK if I don't like them enough to buy into yet another faction!

And, set your calendars - one month from today will be THE day!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 14:57:40


Post by: Talarn Blackshard


Alright, i really need to find a local playing group ... I really like these models. my Wallet can take more hits.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 15:05:25


Post by: drazz


Uxia! She shall be mine (not that it mattered about the model, but that is a really nice looking Special Forces model).

ALEPH sectorial looks nice (dammit).

Tohaa are lacking to me as well. Space elves again.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 16:08:56


Post by: Von Skyfury


Ouch...I really like all the models for this release...That's a problem haha
Well...hopefully I don't play PanO yet (but I'm still tempted to get this awesome model)


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 16:10:24


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I quite love what I see, the brethren and rider, em I mean Myrmidon hacker are amazing, Uxia is quite good, love to see her in combat pose, the Ikadron is great the Imetron is a fancy antenna and looks good in that regard, we have already seen Wu Ming.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 16:20:12


Post by: Pacific


Wowwowow.. not a bad release this month!

That Aleph starter box is the bee's knees, I think the nicest models in that range. The sergeant looks like a bad-ass, and I love the Myrmidon Hacker and her pose!

And that crusader brethren has finally made me decide that I must do a Knightly order army!

And although I have no desire to do a Chinese Yu Jing force, those Wu Ming demand to be painted in some kind of army camo

 Talarn Blackshard wrote:
Alright, i really need to find a local playing group ... I really like these models. my Wallet can take more hits.


Infinity is growing a lot these days, so you might be able to find someone local to you who plays it. There is a thread on Dakka for this purpose:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/442911.page
Also, a more comprehensive list on the Infinity Forums.

Or the other thing to do is buy a starter pack with a mate, learn the rules, and then try and run an intro games yourself! I did it with a friend, we bought & made our own terrain and organised it with a local gaming store who was only to happy to have people coming into the store to play. (I made a thread about it http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/477642.page )


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 16:22:11


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Wow, thank you Bobba!

Liking the look of the ALEPH troops, not so hot on the helmets (on any of them, i dont like that the 'eyes' are too high up, even if they are some sort of scanners, whats the point in having them up there is all its going to do is confuse you when you look at the display? As in the height change would be weird to account for).

The Knight looks pretty kickass, is he an AD trooper by any chance?

Uxis, ahh Uxia, thank you CB, thats what she should have looked like before...Kan/Alph, i really dont mind the ponytail at all, whats with the hate? I dont like her smile though i have to say...
It does disturb me that she appears to be reacting to something that was behind her, not great for a covert agent if someone can get behind you no?

Ikadron looks really good, as does the beacon, oddly not as big as i thought it was going to be from the artwork, but gorgeous looking...

Wu Ming, as good as they were before.

Gao Rael....now thi is a different story, while the model is beautiful to look at (and of course, painted to a ludicrously high standard), the pose leaves something lacking. The left hand/arm, why o why is it that far up the weapon?! Otherwise, its a sniper sniping, a rare and much appreciated occurence from CB!

Overall? What an excellent release! Cant wait to see next months (you know what its going to be )



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 16:23:11


Post by: Savnock


The Crusader Brethren model is the coolest AD:CJ that CB have done since the Yuan Yuan- very nice!

The Thorakitai have an interesting take on Aleph armor- the rounded and very slender greaves in particular. Not sure yet, but I think I like it. The Agema still looks like a fatty though.

Nice eyecandy- thanks for posting all that here BobbaFett! I still come to Dakka for the compiled and simplified CB rumors, and just go to their board for discussion etc. Dakka does rumors right.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 17:10:27


Post by: Sephyr


I actually like the ALEPH visors, and the new models are boss. I'm really curious about the bike trooper, though.

But yeah, the Agema pose is really unflattering. I may greenstuff his arm in a lower pose to hide his torso.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 17:49:34


Post by: CDK


Wow oh wow what a great release!

The Steel Phalanx looks pretty darn cool. Very high-tech bad ass. I know some think the Agema looks a little weird with belly bump thing going on but still it's pretty good. I'm really curious about the rules for the Thorakitai.

I'm going to get that Uxia just for the fun of it. It's a great fig! Talk about cinematic! She looks like she's sliding on the ground and shooting at the same time. Awesome!

Again the Crusader is amazing and if I were to do a PanO it would have him!

I'm already working on lists to have the Wu Ming. I'm not hot on the rules for the LRL but it looks fantastic. I may try to convert it to have an HMG.

I don't know what to make of the Ikadron and Imetron. I will say they look ALIEN. It looks like he has two flame throwers but I want to know how fast he is and what other rules he might have. From the sound of it he can be used both in regular CA as well as sectorals. Which is good because I need them with my Shas. I just wish I could use the Imetrons with my Shas too. Of course the few times I tried using them they deviated off the board!

The Gao-Rael is cool but doesn't strike me as much as others.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:00:49


Post by: TBD


I must be the only one who thinks that not all is perfect in CB land.

- Myrmidon hacker's hair (wtf).

- Eudoros's head/face seems a little odd, but overall the miniature is quite nice.

- Thorakatai w LRL's leg pose does't look quite like how someone would stand.

- Uxia's pose and hair/face disappoint me after the cool art made me expect something more like the Ariadna Spec Op. Maybe the masked Spec Op head fits on there and fixes the situation.

- Crusader Brethren's right leg... wtf was that sculptor thinking?.

- Agema's pose is stupid, I have no other words for it.

- The Gao Rael sniper is very nice (too bad I don't like the rest of the Tohaa sculpts so far)

- The Wu Ming are very cool.

- The other Thorakitai are cool as well.

- The Ikadron are nice enough, although the running pose one of them has isn't that great either.

Maybe I'm too harsh, but these little things just bother me :/

CB needs to get rid of the awkward-pose syndrom already, because it is ruining a lot of their miniatures. Such a shame. Some of their sculptors seem to have issues with leg posing especially.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:03:20


Post by: Inanimate


 Sephyr wrote:
I actually like the ALEPH visors, and the new models are boss. I


The visors look cool on the Thorakitai, but the Agêma's visor makes it look like it's wearing the helmet upside-down. I really dislike that model. Not big on Uxia or the Myrmidon hacker either. Other than that, it's a really solid wave.

Shame that the Ikadron and Imetron are bundled.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:12:27


Post by: Alpharius


 CDK wrote:


I'm already working on lists to have the Wu Ming. I'm not hot on the rules for the LRL but it looks fantastic. I may try to convert it to have an HMG.


What don't you like about the LRL?

Can you summarize the rules and what you take issue with?

 Inanimate wrote:
 Sephyr wrote:


Shame that the Ikadron and Imetron are bundled.


I was thinking the same thing.

I think Shae-Konnit (and can you believe I just 'got it' concerning his name?!?) is going to get a lot of requests that he won't be able to fill!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:17:34


Post by: TBD


 Inanimate wrote:
Not big on Uxia or the Myrmidon hacker either.


Hopefully head swaps with their faction's leftover Spec Ops heads are possible.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:20:21


Post by: Imaginos


Part of me really wants to see the breastplate of the Eudaros painted with the Punisher skull.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:32:01


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 Alpharius wrote:

 Inanimate wrote:
 Sephyr wrote:


Shame that the Ikadron and Imetron are bundled.


I was thinking the same thing.

I think Shae-Konnit (and can you believe I just 'got it' concerning his name?!?) is going to get a lot of requests that he won't be able to fill!

Agreed on both counts!

(Really?! Epic... You've seen his Username on the Infinity Forums right? After seeing the both of them, i keep trying to come up with more in the 'series' )


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:38:15


Post by: Pacific


 Inanimate wrote:
 Sephyr wrote:
I actually like the ALEPH visors, and the new models are boss. I


The visors look cool on the Thorakitai, but the Agêma's visor makes it look like it's wearing the helmet upside-down. I really dislike that model. Not big on Uxia or the Myrmidon hacker either. Other than that, it's a really solid wave.

Shame that the Ikadron and Imetron are bundled.


I absolutely love the Myrmidon Hacker, think she is the stand-out model in that box! I even like the 'fat dude', just because it is something a bit different (and I guess it might be some kind of enviro-suit anyway?)

Guess it just shows that it is impossible to be liked by all people, all the time!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:43:40


Post by: Kanluwen


I don't like the Myrmidon Hacker's pose.

She'd be a good alternative Myrmidon officer though.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 18:48:50


Post by: Alpharius


Kanluwen wrote:I don't like the Myrmidon Hacker's pose.

She'd be a good alternative Myrmidon officer though.


Pacific wrote:
 Inanimate wrote:
 Sephyr wrote:
I actually like the ALEPH visors, and the new models are boss. I


The visors look cool on the Thorakitai, but the Agêma's visor makes it look like it's wearing the helmet upside-down. I really dislike that model. Not big on Uxia or the Myrmidon hacker either. Other than that, it's a really solid wave.

Shame that the Ikadron and Imetron are bundled.


I absolutely love the Myrmidon Hacker, think she is the stand-out model in that box! I even like the 'fat dude', just because it is something a bit different (and I guess it might be some kind of enviro-suit anyway?)

Guess it just shows that it is impossible to be liked by all people, all the time!


You're right, of course, as I love everything about the Myrmidon Hacker!




INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 20:05:43


Post by: Erasoketa


6 new items, 3 of them boxes? Wow, that was unexpected.

Eudoros is a character, how curious seeing one in a starter pack.

This months miniatures are all great. The one I was more excited about was Uxía. It's not exactly whay I expected, I don't know why I was thinking in something more static and stealthy and not that dynamic, shooty, "I'm right in the middle of the action". But it's still really good, and of course... I'l buy it.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 20:33:40


Post by: His Master's Voice


I'm pretty happy wit Uxia. Flat soles, a pose that does not immediately evoke stripper connotations, easy to put a proper vest on her and the arms are separate so again, easy to give her an actual gun in a sensible position. Overall, me likes.

Alpeph box is all kinds of wacky and weird, not in a good way, and again with the horrendously stupid pose on the female model. Like, WTF?

CA thingy is okay, could do with a bit cleaner pain job to make it look less blobby.

Tohaa sniper is cool. Would have been better if they didn't insist on making him do stretch ups while aiming but even having him in elbow locked position is good enough. Approved.

Yu Jing are okay.

The PanOceana guy again takes to the field with a sprung ankle, trying to do stretch ups. Or perhaps taking a dump. Serioulsy, stop with the stupid poses, they ruin every other PanOceana mini...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 20:59:48


Post by: Kroothawk


Just for the record:
When they say October release, does that mean November, December or January? And why do they call it October release when October is obviously almost over?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 21:04:14


Post by: Noir


 Kroothawk wrote:
Just for the record:
When they say October release, does that mean November, December or January? And why do they call it October release when October is obviously almost over?


We will have them next month.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 21:07:52


Post by: CDK


 Alpharius wrote:
 CDK wrote:


I'm already working on lists to have the Wu Ming. I'm not hot on the rules for the LRL but it looks fantastic. I may try to convert it to have an HMG.


What don't you like about the LRL?

Can you summarize the rules and what you take issue with?

 Inanimate wrote:
 Sephyr wrote:


Shame that the Ikadron and Imetron are bundled.


I was thinking the same thing.

I think Shae-Konnit (and can you believe I just 'got it' concerning his name?!?) is going to get a lot of requests that he won't be able to fill!


It's really short ranged. It's -3 for the range that I shoot at the most! I'll have to try it I guess. Fire ammo is okay but not great for me.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 22:47:42


Post by: DustGod


Wow...

most impressive I've seen in a bit.

whats that Ikadron profile?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/24 22:53:48


Post by: Kanluwen


Had some time to think on it...

I might have to see if anyone is going to buy multiples of the ALEPH starter box, because I want Eudoros.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 00:10:21


Post by: -Loki-


Well isn't that Tohaa sniper just dead sexy. I was pretty dead set on a Morat Aggression Force, but I do like the Tohaa stuff. And that sniper...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 00:17:02


Post by: Micky


Eager to get my claws on that Ikadron and Immetron box...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 01:05:10


Post by: CDK


 5deadly wrote:
Wow...

most impressive I've seen in a bit.

whats that Ikadron profile?


Stats should come out soon. Usually within a couple weeks I think when a new troops comes out.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 01:18:25


Post by: jah-joshua


Uxia, and her lovely ponytail, are my only pick of this batch...
much better than the original...

cheers
jah


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 02:29:12


Post by: DustGod


 CDK wrote:
 5deadly wrote:
Wow...

most impressive I've seen in a bit.
whats that Ikadron profile?

Stats should come out soon. Usually within a couple weeks I think when a new troops comes out.


It's been awhile for me.. so when new profiles are added do we see them updated on devil team builder?
Any idea what the Ikadron role is?
I'm digging the new Aleph stuff.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 02:31:19


Post by: Kanluwen


Where is my Corregidor Starter box?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 02:41:37


Post by: -Loki-


 5deadly wrote:
 CDK wrote:
 5deadly wrote:
Wow...

most impressive I've seen in a bit.
whats that Ikadron profile?

Stats should come out soon. Usually within a couple weeks I think when a new troops comes out.


It's been awhile for me.. so when new profiles are added do we see them updated on devil team builder?


It depends on how busy they are - the devil team builder isn't done by Corvus Belli, so it depends on if that group has the time.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 09:05:54


Post by: Charles Rampant


I'm quite tempted by Uxia, she might make a very decent spec-ops model for my Qapu Khalqi force. Her armour doesn't look all that dissimilar from Haqq fare. Really cool pose, though her smile does make her look somewhat sadistic.

Don't like the Aleph box at all - a hacker who is hacking with her hair, and they brought the hunchback of Notredame along as well.

Love the Combined Army... thing. It looks horrible, just like the best models in that range!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 09:12:31


Post by: Pacific


Yeah it's a really neat idea using some weird kind of alien as a baggage unit (I guess the CA version of a donkey?)


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 12:25:45


Post by: CDK


 5deadly wrote:
Wow...

most impressive I've seen in a bit.
whats that Ikadron profile?


It has two flame throwers AFAIK. The Baggage rule, which is pretty cool. Especially against Morats and Shasvastii which is already hard to get rid of. I think the price is pretty low at about 9pts. The AVA I heard is low. AVA 2 for the Regular CA and AVA1 for sectorals. NOT sure about that yet.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 14:47:06


Post by: Boss Salvage


 CDK wrote:
It has two flame throwers AFAIK. The Baggage rule, which is pretty cool. Especially against Morats and Shasvastii which is already hard to get rid of. I think the price is pretty low at about 9pts. The AVA I heard is low. AVA 2 for the Regular CA and AVA1 for sectorals. NOT sure about that yet.
Oh, my SEF can take this thing?? AFAIK we can't take iMetrons, so I just assumed that the flamey baggage guy was out too. I dig the model quite a bit, but more importantly: double flame throwers With Tohaa's arrival, fire has become especially precious, yet IIRC SEF have a single source for it ... Just one of the many reasons I finally bought my SPHINX

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 14:55:42


Post by: Alpharius


 Boss Salvage wrote:
 CDK wrote:
It has two flame throwers AFAIK. The Baggage rule, which is pretty cool. Especially against Morats and Shasvastii which is already hard to get rid of. I think the price is pretty low at about 9pts. The AVA I heard is low. AVA 2 for the Regular CA and AVA1 for sectorals. NOT sure about that yet.
Oh, my SEF can take this thing?? AFAIK we can't take iMetrons, so I just assumed that the flamey baggage guy was out too. I dig the model quite a bit, but more importantly: double flame throwers With Tohaa's arrival, fire has become especially precious, yet IIRC SEF have a single source for it ... Just one of the many reasons I finally bought my SPHINX

- Salvage


Yeah right, that's the main reason you got the Sphinx - the TO Camo had nothing to do with it!

Cutter envy I tell ya, Cutter envy!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 14:59:11


Post by: Boss Salvage


 Alpharius wrote:
Yeah right, that's the main reason you got the Sphinx - the TO Camo had nothing to do with it!

Cutter envy I tell ya, Cutter envy!
I'll admit it, the Sphinx is just one big sexy beast all 'round Local PanO dude has a lovely painted Cutter, which I'm sure I'm destined to go up against as soon as I start tossing TAGs around

As for the Batroid AVA: Screen Cap!



Looks like AVA 2 for CA / MAF / SEF? And 9 points - for an order, two flamers, and ability to drag things? Yes'm!

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 15:29:30


Post by: The CF


I can see myself using two of those in my SEF...
And I've been waiting for my Sphinx forever now... stupid Maelstrom. I hope I get my money back soon so I can order a new one from somewhere else.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 15:49:55


Post by: Alpharius


 The CF wrote:
I can see myself using two of those in my SEF...
And I've been waiting for my Sphinx forever now... stupid Maelstrom. I hope I get my money back soon so I can order a new one from somewhere else.


Seriously, you need to call your credit card company (hopefully that's how you purchased them) or PayPal ASAP.

Maelstorm's 'taken the biscuit' as those crazy British kids like to say...

Good luck!

And yeah, the Sphinx rocks!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 16:31:57


Post by: CDK


I hate the Sphinx model but love the rules so I'm using an Anathematic for it.

I can't see much on that pic but having two of those will be fantastic! Can anyone make out the MOV on it? It looks like 16/5 cm. which would be 6/2 Inches.

Also, What is that symbol on the right?!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 16:41:56


Post by: Kanluwen



I'm really, really, really liking the Gao-Rael fluff.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 16:57:37


Post by: yukihyou


Well looks like shae will be getting a new order from me.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 17:04:32


Post by: Boss Salvage


 CDK wrote:
I hate the Sphinx model but love the rules so I'm using an Anathematic for it.

I can't see much on that pic but having two of those will be fantastic! Can anyone make out the MOV on it? It looks like 16/5 cm. which would be 6/2 Inches.

Also, What is that symbol on the right?!
I use my Anathematic as an Anathematic (But I do dislike the Sphinx's false beard deal )

Movement looks about right. Weird split.

The symbol accompanies Ko Dali's profile

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/25 17:55:24


Post by: CDK


Man, good think I play Yu Jing and Combined!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 05:25:38


Post by: The CF


 Alpharius wrote:
 The CF wrote:
I can see myself using two of those in my SEF...
And I've been waiting for my Sphinx forever now... stupid Maelstrom. I hope I get my money back soon so I can order a new one from somewhere else.


Seriously, you need to call your credit card company (hopefully that's how you purchased them) or PayPal ASAP.

Maelstorm's 'taken the biscuit' as those crazy British kids like to say...

Good luck!

And yeah, the Sphinx rocks!


I bought about £70 worth of models, including the Sphinx, through Paypal. I've filed a claim there.
Then I also bought the Paradiso book through Paypal more than 45 days ago. I guess I should call my Cash Card company and see what can be done there (As I used the card to pay through Paypal).


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 08:19:03


Post by: Erasoketa


First Infinity cosplay I see and she's chosen...





Oh, hi Kan!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 08:34:11


Post by: Pacific


Hahahaha that's awesome!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 10:36:27


Post by: The CF


Damn, that's nice


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 13:08:49


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


Kan is going to die.

I think that's awesome. She did a good job keeping it simple and clean. Thumbsup.

Now where is my boxed set of badass Turkish Engineers huh? The Spitfire is nice but I can't run four of him. >.<


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 14:12:43


Post by: Kanluwen


Cosplay?

What cosplay? I saw no cosplay.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
GUYS!

GUYS!

As of 10/26/2012...

BACKORDERED FILLED!
Campaign: Paradiso now in stock at The Warstore!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 17:28:14


Post by: Alpharius


FINALLY!

Hopefully this means Neal is shipping out to me ASAP, along with Go-Go!

I'll have to work up a diorama with Go-Go interviewing a certain Nomad doctor...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 17:31:24


Post by: d-usa


I would get it if it wasn't for the fact that I am just now learning the basic rules...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/26 18:42:15


Post by: Kanluwen


My order is now being filled, yaaay.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/27 01:24:01


Post by: Ronin_eX


Can't wait to see the little email that mine is shipping out. Here's hoping for Monday. Should allow it to arrive in time for our bi-monthly gaming night that way.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/28 21:45:44


Post by: -Loki-


With how long it takes Infinity stuff to get to my FLGS, I should have a good 3 weeks before I get mine.

But that's all for the best, what with AC 3 next week and Christmas shopping.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/28 22:18:27


Post by: Kanluwen


If you have any questions that haven't been answered yet Loki, I'll answer 'em on Tuesday when I get my book.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 00:46:50


Post by: Alpharius


Same here - Warstore notice received on Saturday, book in
hand by Tuesday.

Well, if hurricane Sandy allows it!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 12:25:34


Post by: Pacific


Had a read of the book this weekend (they were at the Campaign Paradiso event at Wayland Games) and for want of a better expression it is bloody brilliant! I can say that as someone who has become remarkably jaded and has a lot of experience of the different products thrown out by this industry - it takes a lot to impress me, in this modern age of everything being hyped as the best thing since sliced bread, but this book seems to have fulfilled everything I could have hoped from it.

The artwork, the background, the way it is all set out and presented - all of it is absolutely spot on. I was lucky enough to have a good chat with Carlos (the chap who is in all of the BoW videos), and he said a lot of work went into it. They've been building up to this system for a long time (over several years), putting things in, taking them out and gradually refining it until they settled on a system that was most balanced. It originally started out as a card based system apparently, but then that amongst other ideas was finally rejected - what's perhaps most impressive is that they wanted to release it ages ago (as most people in the know have said), but they kept delaying it as they wanted to get it just right, and especially in terms of balance. There are so many neat little ideas you can tell that was the case.

We played a couple of the first missions, and I have to say they were a lot of fun. They are tied in nicely with the progression of background story that has happened since Human Sphere, and the conflict on Paradiso in particular. You can take part in the missions as standard, which have a narrative progression (you spend the xp you gain on either your 'spec ops'; a line trooper unit, chooseable from several in your army list, with things like stat improvements or weapon upgrades) or on actual improvements for your whole force. These can vary simply from extra points in your next game, additional availability of units, free mercenaries to more 'intelligence' style options such as being able to choose table edges, or read your opponents army list (even have an alternative army list!) You can also play the 'narrative' battles, as they happened in the storyline of the book, which give you free extra units to use. I will say I hope that Yu Jing players haven't become overly attached to Ko Dali (although I'm sure most will have read now about what happens to her..)

As I said another really cool thing about it is the artwork; this book blows the previous 2 out of the water in terms of the imagery it contains, with several different styles of art and a lot of new material. Interestingly I was talking to a chap named Juan (who was over here for the event as well) and he said that most of the art is outsourced - he mentioned artists in the US and Poland who have done work on the book. I know it's a subjective thing to an extent, but I thought it was stunning and one of the most appealing aspects of the book. Corvus Belli could make some serious money in the future selling this stuff as an art book, or even on a range of merchandise - I think it's that good.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 12:52:07


Post by: RiTides


 Kanluwen wrote:
 BobbaFett wrote:
Imetron and Ikadron Batroid. Combined Army.

IKADRON BATROIDS

Is a good soldier made or born?

For the Ur Civilization, the good soldier isn’t made or born, it is grown.

Product of the most advanced techno-organic engineering, the Ikadron Batroids are carbon-silicon hybrids cultivated in accelerated growth farms over a pseudo-intelligent monitored substrate. The techno-neuronal hardware structure and behavior models of the Ikadron have been designed in the image and likeness of the Ruaria, companion animals of the Ur since times immemorial and favorite pet of any warrior, hunter or adventurer. The Ruaria are ferocious, brave and loyal until death, making them the ideal model and reference for creating an excellent autonomous slave/operative. So, the Ikadron was the perfect tool for any Ur to feel comfortable and safe working with it, either configured for autonomous remote mode or under direct control via quantronic-neuronal link.

Designed in the ages before the creation of the EI itself, the Ikadron were a mass production tool to perform dangerous activities in hostile environments; a wide definition including any kind of tasks, from exploration to construction, prospecting or even combat. With minimum modifications in the cultivation phase, an Ikadron could change from a qualified worker to a professional soldier, expert in front line operations or in logistics. In this way, the Ikadron Batroids were the main force of the expansionist waves of the EI in its first campaigns of conquest, when the Ur presence in combat was more frequent.

A civilization of such an advanced level as the Ur is characterized by the efficiency of its tools, and the Ikadron were renowned for their effectiveness and reliability, implementing the EI’s strategies with precision and implacable energy, without hesitation, without backing off, as inexorable as the EI which they represented [...]

Fragment extracted from the Forgotten Annals of the T’zechi Digesters.

The Ikadron Batroids are part of the backbone of the Combined Army forces. Even if the Morat race is primarily responsible for the execution of the military activities of the alien forces, it is also usual to see the presence of an Ikadron contingent in those larger deployments grouping more than one species. The task of the Ikadron is, supposedly, to act as a mobile reserve, but it is evident that they also act as a control element for those species forming part of the deployment. They also act as a deterrent factor for any possible conflict among those races, something that can be very frequent given the rude and xenophobic mentality of Morats.

“Guide to Identification of the Enemy (GIE): Ikadron Batroids”. Extracted from the OPC-1 International Operative Handbook, Paradiso Campaign. Published by the Psi Unit, O-12 Military Intelligence.

ÍMETRON

This special device has been created to improve the range and capacity of the Tactical Data Net of the EI over the battlefield. Ímetron beacons are deployed from aerial reconnaissance drones through high or low altitude launches, depending on battle conditions. The devices amplify and analyze data and tactical information obtained from the Combined Army, providing a constant actualization of any combat’s development parameters.

I NEED these. You guys posted them as an October release, Warstore has them listed for November. Would you expect these to be on FLGS shelves in early-mid November? We have our Infinity league starting back up and the Imetrons are necessary for me . We also have a store nearby that stocks every Infinity model, so if they're shipping out, they'll get it...

Otherwise, maybe I'll preorder them from the Warstore.



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 12:53:18


Post by: CDK


Thanks for the review Pacific. I'm begin a good boy and waiting patiently for this! I unfortunately need to wait until it gets to my FLGS


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 12:54:20


Post by: RiTides


 Alpharius wrote:
Same here - Warstore notice received on Saturday, book in
hand by Tuesday.

Well, if hurricane Sandy allows it!

Batten down the hatches, Alph! Most things are close here today because of it...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 13:03:05


Post by: Alpharius


 RiTides wrote:

I NEED these. You guys posted them as an October release, Warstore has them listed for November. Would you expect these to be on FLGS shelves in early-mid November? We have our Infinity league starting back up and the Imetrons are necessary for me . We also have a store nearby that stocks every Infinity model, so if they're shipping out, they'll get it...

Otherwise, maybe I'll preorder them from the Warstore.



I didn't know you were fielding the evil Gribblies know as the CA - Nice!

Anyway, somewhere along the line there was a delay at CB getting a month's miniatures out.

And that has pushed everything into the system we have now, where the current month's miniatures aren't previewed until near the end of that actual month, meaning they won't actually be available for purchase until the following month.

So for example, October's releases were just previewed last week, and won't be available for purchase until November! (Well, at least here in the States!)

This will be especially hard to cope with next month, as the Raicho will be previewed (please please please!) and then won't be for sale until December!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Looks as if the latest round of miniatures are...

 Shae-Konnit wrote:
They're due to be released on the 5th!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 14:50:15


Post by: Charles Rampant


That Ikadron is really growing on me. I love the gnarly look of its face.

Thanks for the review on the book. Does it come with standard missions outside of a campaign? I'm not sure if I want to play a campaign constantly, whereas my group is desperate for missions to play in general.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 15:01:34


Post by: Alpharius


Can someone tell me what the AVA is for the Ikadron Batroid in CA (general), Shasvastii and Morat?

I can't find this info, though I know I read it somewhere on Dakka - even saw a blurry picture of the new rulebook entry!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 15:06:23


Post by: Boss Salvage


Alph:
 Boss Salvage wrote:

As for the Batroid AVA: Screen Cap!



Looks like AVA 2 for CA / MAF / SEF?


And RT playing CA?! What theme you running, or just a mix of the best stuff? (Theme-less CA is stupidly good, by the way, I just can't do it myself ...)

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 15:22:24


Post by: Alpharius


The AVA 2 for all makes a LOT of sense, and they will sell a LOT of Ikadron/Imetron bundles now.

Are Imetron's the same AVA for all CA armies?

Or are they only available for 'generic' CA?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 15:58:18


Post by: Boss Salvage


Imetron wasn't in Human Sphere, was it? Not seeing it on the same Paradisio vid I grabbed the batroid cap from, might be the page over AFAIK the imetron is AVA 2 for CA only. I actually scratched up two of them but since I didn't think I could use them in SEF I haven't played them much recently. Given that the batroid is two for all I could see metron being the same?

^ Above info from infinitycreator.com

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 16:42:52


Post by: Kanluwen


The Imetron was, indeed, in Human Sphere.

They're not listed in the Sectorial AVA, so most likely they're just a "vanilla" unit being put in now before we get the EI Sectorial.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 17:08:49


Post by: Boss Salvage


 Kanluwen wrote:
... before we get the EI Sectorial.
... the EI Sectorial? Giant dudes with remotes and batroids and metrons? Self. Poops. Self.

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 17:13:11


Post by: Kanluwen


Hold on. I'm not saying we are getting one, but I do think it's highly likely that the as yet unnamed next book will have the EI and Concordat as Sectorials.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 17:27:01


Post by: Noir


 Kanluwen wrote:
Hold on. I'm not saying we are getting one, but I do think it's highly likely that the as yet unnamed next book will have the EI and Concordat as Sectorials.


True, we don't know for sure, but CB did once long ago (when only the first 2 books were out) that all units that a currently in a book will one day get a Sectorial. My saying that I don't remember seeing the icon with the sectorial badge sneek pick form gencon.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 20:24:06


Post by: Kanluwen


Now I am pissed at this so-called...Frankenstorm.

Lawnside, NJ, United States 10/29/2012 3:00 P.M. Emergency conditions beyond UPS' control.


Damn you UPS! Why do you not have weather machines?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 20:44:09


Post by: BrookM


I know all too well how maddening a wait can be! Kan, how about we put you in suspended animation until the parcel arrives? Here, put this plastic bag over your head and we'll do the rest.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 20:46:56


Post by: CDK


Sorry to say, that for the US, Hurricane Sandy is about to or is hitting New York is going to make for a delay of some sort. Actually the eastern side of the US is effected by it.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 21:08:29


Post by: Kanluwen


 BrookM wrote:
I know all too well how maddening a wait can be! Kan, how about we put you in suspended animation until the parcel arrives? Here, put this plastic bag over your head and we'll do the rest.

This plan cannot go wrong.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 21:20:47


Post by: BrookM


 Kanluwen wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
I know all too well how maddening a wait can be! Kan, how about we put you in suspended animation until the parcel arrives? Here, put this plastic bag over your head and we'll do the rest.

This plan cannot go wrong.
Trust me, works like charm, maybe we can make you forget about cat-girl while we're at it yes?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 21:21:30


Post by: Kanluwen


Maybe, but I'm painting today.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 21:22:22


Post by: BrookM


Bah, it better be Infinity mini's..


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 21:23:14


Post by: Kanluwen


It is.

I still have to paint my Guard though.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 21:27:47


Post by: BrookM


Don't we all?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/29 22:05:42


Post by: RiTides


Thanks for the info, Alph!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/30 02:46:32


Post by: Ronin_eX


Hmm, seeing as the Warstore is in NY... yeah, I wont be expecting much until Sandy is gone. Well, dang. Hope everyone down there is holding up.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/30 03:47:22


Post by: d-usa


Just placed an order at the Warstore for the new book and a couple models.

Who knows when they will make it out of the store to ship them


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/30 13:23:54


Post by: CDK


Who knows if they even have power and will be able to see your order. I hope for the best for everyone though. They got hit pretty hard.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/30 17:38:01


Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH


Just got my shipping notice from the good people at firestorm games so anyone else who ordered with them should be getting theirs soon


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/30 21:16:05


Post by: d-usa


 CDK wrote:
Who knows if they even have power and will be able to see your order. I hope for the best for everyone though. They got hit pretty hard.


No e-mail yet. I'm sure Neil is just sitting in the dark. I hope we don't have to see a "water damage" sale in the future.

Best of luck to him and everybody else out there.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 19:38:00


Post by: Erasoketa


Maybe this is old news, but the new markers are now available in the download section of their website. One file for the markers and a second file for the MagLev train.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 19:53:09


Post by: Alpharius


News to me - thanks for sharing!

Perhaps the Non-Worked Blocked amongst us can share a direct link?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 20:10:12


Post by: Kanluwen


Here you go, Alphy.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 20:29:01


Post by: Pacific


Now the question remains - who will be crazy enough to make a maglev train?

I asked Carlos about this last weekend and he said of course CB won't do it, but there is an open invitation for anyone else who wants to try.

I forgot to mention before there was a bunch of really cool Micro Arts stuff that I saw, which has been designed and built by the Micro Arts guys, but using the design sketches from CB provided to them and made with the new missions in mind.

As an example there were escape pods (I believe shown on the forum before? both occupied and unoccupied) which serve for some of the new missions, as well as resin 'lifts' - in the missions that take place indoors these serve as access points to AD drop-troopers (presumably they have landed on the roof!) Also some 'alien markers', and I thought perhaps best of all were some of the human (and alien) style control points/panels. The finished article will have little slots on the top where you can insert a small acrylic token (presumably also made by MAS) - so in missions using the control panels you can change their status and easily keep track of it. Thought this in particular was a great idea!

I love it that CB is trying to forge links with companies like Micro Arts, rather than trying to shut them out - we will get loads of cool stuff which, although easily scratch-built for some people, are nonetheless an option for people who want to buy.

* Actually I believe IJW took some photos of some of the new MAS stuff? Have to ask if he would mind posting them here.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 20:35:44


Post by: Alpharius


 Pacific wrote:

I love it that CB is trying to forge links with companies like Micro Arts, rather than trying to shut them out - we will get loads of cool stuff which, although easily scratch-built for some people, are nonetheless an option for people who want to buy.


I love this idea too - though at times I wish they'd be a bit more... discerning... in their choices!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 20:57:41


Post by: Kanluwen


The "escape pods" are actually single occupancy "Drop Pods".

I love them, and will be buying several.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 21:12:16


Post by: RiTides


I don't think I've seen the model for the escape/drop pod, is it new / not yet previewed, or did I just miss it's existence?



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 21:52:55


Post by: drazz


Drop pod was shown at Gencon and a few pics are floating around.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 22:49:11


Post by: Alpharius


It looks like this!



Not available yet though...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 22:50:35


Post by: d-usa


Are there special rules for the train?

If I ever finish up my table I might incorporate something...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 23:34:36


Post by: Alpharius


 d-usa wrote:
Are there special rules for the train?

If I ever finish up my table I might incorporate something...


I think the train comes into play in one of the new missions - when it arrives and departs is critical.

So, when it arrives and departs, it should block LOS, provide cover, etc. as well.

I think.

I wish my book from The Warstore would get here quickly - though I think Neal probably has more to worry about right now...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 23:39:06


Post by: d-usa


So even in non-mission related tables it would be interesting for cover options.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 23:42:40


Post by: Kanluwen


 Alpharius wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Are there special rules for the train?

If I ever finish up my table I might incorporate something...


I think the train comes into play in one of the new missions - when it arrives and departs is critical.

So, when it arrives and departs, it should block LOS, provide cover, etc. as well.

I think.

I wish my book from The Warstore would get here quickly - though I think Neal probably has more to worry about right now...

It's less Neal right now, more that UPS is having a hell of a time.

My package is currently "missing", having departed Lawnside, New Jersey last night and...well, somewhere.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 23:47:17


Post by: Alpharius


d-usa wrote:So even in non-mission related tables it would be interesting for cover options.


Absolutely!

So... I'd love for someone to come up with a Futuristic Train terrain piece!

Kanluwen wrote:
It's less Neal right now, more that UPS is having a hell of a time.

My package is currently "missing", having departed Lawnside, New Jersey last night and...well, somewhere.

I glad you mentioned that - it reminded me to check on mine too...

...and according to UPS tracking, it is due to arrive... tomorrow!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/10/31 23:49:24


Post by: d-usa


I ordered my stuff on Monday night, no email from Neil yet.

I figure that best case scenario it is simply a case of no power to receive the order yet. I hope that he doesn't have bigger problems.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 00:03:02


Post by: Pacific


d-usa wrote:Are there special rules for the train?



Only one I remember in particular is that if anyone or anything is on the tracks and in its way, they are instantly killed!

Alpharius wrote:
d-usa wrote:So even in non-mission related tables it would be interesting for cover options.


Absolutely!

So... I'd love for someone to come up with a Futuristic Train terrain piece!


There was a guy in the Infinity section a while ago who found a toy-type model that would look good with some work. Will see if I can find the thread!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 00:03:53


Post by: solkan


On Saturday I got the e-mail about my Paradiso book with the usual "to notify you that the electronic shipment information below has been transmitted to UPS" boiler plate. According to the most recent tracking result, it didn't get to UPS until Tuesday. Where ever Farmingville NY is...

But Farmingville, NY is where my previous orders from the Warstore have gone through, so a certain amount of order must be in place at the moment. :-)


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 00:29:49


Post by: Kanluwen


 Alpharius wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
It's less Neal right now, more that UPS is having a hell of a time.

My package is currently "missing", having departed Lawnside, New Jersey last night and...well, somewhere.

I glad you mentioned that - it reminded me to check on mine too...

...and according to UPS tracking, it is due to arrive... tomorrow!

Hate.
Mine has "vanished" for the time being, after departing NJ it's no longer showing up.

Probably gonna be here tomorrow, I hope...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 00:57:17


Post by: Casey's Law


 Alpharius wrote:
So... I'd love for someone to come up with a Futuristic Train terrain piece!

My original table plan included a working subway. I've updated the idea since then and it's a long way off for me so if anyone would like my design they can have it. Sadly i think i've deleted the file so i just have the picture left over, i'd be happy to try and dig it out if someone really wants it.
Spoiler:

I'm also happy to pass on all the details and designs i came up with, via pm.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 13:54:52


Post by: Kanluwen


My package is now in Greensboro!

I talked with a friend who works at UPS up in Massachusetts and he said that they are working paid overtimes up and down the coast to get stuff sorted.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 15:10:57


Post by: SoulDrinker


Got mine. Paradiso is here!!! Apparently the new mini's are a few days behind due to public holidays in Spain so I'll have to wait until next FRIDAY, I'm sure I'll cope


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/01 16:04:17


Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH


Yep got mine and the new minis should be at simple mini end of this week to beginning of next week for us Dorset folk


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 06:05:23


Post by: d-usa


Sounds like the Warstore made it through the storm okay:

Update November 1st: I want to say thank you all for your patience and support. Hurricane Sandy has been very devastating. I wanted to give you a fresh update and let you all know that the staff and their families are all healthy and safe. TheWarStore.com Warehouse took zero damage and everything is as it was prior to the storm. The good news is we have Power and Water. The bad news is we still have no internet. So currently we are unable to process emails or orders. Please stay tuned for further updates.


But it will still be a bit until I get my new stuff.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 09:32:50


Post by: SoulDrinker


UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Yep got mine and the new minis should be at simple mini end of this week to beginning of next week for us Dorset folk


Spoke to the nice people at Simple Miniatures when I went to pick up some more reinforcements and they reckon they will be getting their deliveries of new mini's on the 7th or 8th depending on the Spanish UPS boys


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 09:46:26


Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH


Damn those UPS men I have a burning need to hand over more of my hard earned cash!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 11:38:27


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Woop my Paradiso is also here! (and im off work sick so.....looks like i have the whole day to read it then )


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 12:01:49


Post by: SoulDrinker


We need a Tohaa badge on the Forum!!!! I've almost finished my starter box and I've added a few "painted proxies" to round them out so I can use them and get the hang of how they work.........just means i have a week to finish detailing before I can add the sniper


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 12:17:02


Post by: Alpharius


 SoulDrinker wrote:
We need a Tohaa badge on the Forum!!!! I've almost finished my starter box and I've added a few "painted proxies" to round them out so I can use them and get the hang of how they work.........just means i have a week to finish detailing before I can add the sniper


Good point - we probably do need a TOHAA symbol, as well as maybe some of the new sectorials?

Whoever did it last time - help us out and hook us up!

Also - my book and miniature arrived from The Warstore - yeah!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 12:39:27


Post by: CDK


I didn't do them before but I just happened to just make one for my decal sheets.

I think VonSkyfury did it before. I can't seem to get the white ring around it off.

[Thumb - Tohaa.png]


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 14:11:52


Post by: Kanluwen


My copy of Paradiso is out for delivery, and will be arriving with a Netrod/Yudbot blister....


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 15:21:45


Post by: Balance


 d-usa wrote:
 CDK wrote:
Who knows if they even have power and will be able to see your order. I hope for the best for everyone though. They got hit pretty hard.


No e-mail yet. I'm sure Neil is just sitting in the dark. I hope we don't have to see a "water damage" sale in the future.

Best of luck to him and everybody else out there.


There's a note ont he front of thewarstore.com that says they're good and have power and water... but no internet.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/02 15:23:19


Post by: Kanluwen


It's at the top of this page too, Balance.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Campaign: Paradiso finally arrived!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 00:00:23


Post by: BobbaFett


CB should release books more often.
I mean... how much do we have to wait until we can read the next wave of fluff? Love the fluff... need more fluff...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 00:28:24


Post by: d-usa


Looks like Neil is back in full swing, filling backlogs of orders now.

Happy to hear they didn't take any damage.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 01:27:03


Post by: Ronin_eX


Just got my shipping confirmation today. Glad to hear Neal and the crew weathered the storm in one piece.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 21:42:27


Post by: Kanluwen


Having pored over Campaign: Paradiso...

I'm torn as to what army to do as a secondary!
"The Steel Phalanx" is a lot less offensive to my senses now after I've read about why it was created.
The Tohaa having a G: Synchronized T.A.G. is definitely interesting!
Ariadna now is out amongst the stars, at the behest of the O-12 Bureau itself to act as a "neutral" party and provide security, etc to O-12.
Corregidor is still fantastic to me, and the Gecko is a really interesting bit. A T.A.G. used by Corregidor not just because of ease of repair...but because it can be used in boarding actions.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 22:49:19


Post by: Alpharius


New T.A.G.'s are... awesome!

Can't wait to see what the Gecko and Tohaa versions look like.

After we see the Raicho, of course...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 22:51:05


Post by: Kanluwen


The Gecko is a speedy little bugger. What's more, it has "Zero-G".

The Gorgos is going to be rather similar to the Gecko I think. It's interesting that it essentially is Symbionic Armor which gives it the T.A.G. styled stats.

Oh! And the Tohaa Spec Ops can only use the "Kamael" infantry as the basis to work from.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/03 22:58:03


Post by: Revenent Reiko


In the same way that the Corax is limited to starting as a Seed Soldier...(not that there is another Shas option necessarily, but ive heard the seed soldier is tn the best 'grunt' option...?)


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/04 00:57:52


Post by: Construct


 CDK wrote:
I can't seem to get the white ring around it off.
It's more consistent with the other logos if you leave the ring on. You need to make the black outside the ring transparent though. Here, try this:



What else are we missing?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/04 01:03:20


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Nice work Construct!

The ALEPH Steel Phalanx Sectorial (its not called that though is it...) maybe?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/04 02:01:32


Post by: Alpharius


 Construct wrote:
 CDK wrote:
I can't seem to get the white ring around it off.
It's more consistent with the other logos if you leave the ring on. You need to make the black outside the ring transparent though. Here, try this:



What else are we missing?


Awesome!

Send that over to Yakface and/or Legoburner, please!

Also, any chance you can do the new Aleph sectorial too?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/04 02:09:27


Post by: Kanluwen



This is the only icon we're missing as a little baby one now.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/04 05:31:24


Post by: Construct


I've PMed Yakface icons for the Tohaa Trigon and the Steel Phalanx. I also included icons derived from the new reflective logos for all factions. (The Tohaa icon above was one of these. It's not a big difference once you shrink them down to 15x15 but I think they do look slightly better than the current flat ones so it would be nice to have the option.)


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/04 13:02:27


Post by: Alpharius


 Construct wrote:
I've PMed Yakface icons for the Tohaa Trigon and the Steel Phalanx. I also included icons derived from the new reflective logos for all factions. (The Tohaa icon above was one of these. It's not a big difference once you shrink them down to 15x15 but I think they do look slightly better than the current flat ones so it would be nice to have the option.)


Thank you!

And you're right - the new 'reflective' logos do look better!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/05 13:55:05


Post by: CDK


Looks great Construct. I'm not used to web art.

I got my book on Friday! So I had some of the weekend to go through. Going to hold back on overall critics though. Need to really get into it. I'll start a few threads to discuss some things though.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/06 01:58:32


Post by: -Loki-


Just called my FLGS, and my book+Gogo have just left Spain - they were waiting on the rest of the new releases to send the order. So I still have a few weeks to wait.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 02:22:02


Post by: ephrael


Can I ask you folks a question here as I can't seem to find the answer elsewhere? Did the copy of the book with Gogo cost more or the same price? I picked up the book+Gogo without a preorder at my FLGS and was charged the price of the book+$10 for the mini which I didn't really want to begin with. I was just wondering if this was normal or if I should have a talk with the store owner. Thanks


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 02:26:48


Post by: Kanluwen


That was normal.

What was found out later was that GoGo was something the retailers had to buy, but could not sell by itself.

You should be able to find someone wanting to take her off your hands easily though. Thankfully, the Warstore let me order it without Marlene.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 03:25:49


Post by: Noir


ephrael wrote:
Can I ask you folks a question here as I can't seem to find the answer elsewhere? Did the copy of the book with Gogo cost more or the same price? I picked up the book+Gogo without a preorder at my FLGS and was charged the price of the book+$10 for the mini which I didn't really want to begin with. I was just wondering if this was normal or if I should have a talk with the store owner. Thanks


Didn't want as forced to buy?

Anyways if you got the book from CB the mini was free, but alot of warehouse charge the store that order from them. So the stores have to pass along the cost.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 03:50:39


Post by: ephrael


I wasn't exactly forced to buy her but I damn sure didn't want to pay extra for her. The store I got my book from got their case of books directly from Corvus Belli so they could get the minis is what I was told. I guess I'll hold on to her for now and see if I like the mini more after some time. Perhaps my daughter will want to paint her up one day. Thanks for the info folks.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 07:32:37


Post by: Erasoketa


From what I knew, there were different options for the stores to get the books and the minis. The minis were free only if the stores asked very few (like... 2?). If the stores wanted more, they had to pay them. Then, it was up to them to choose wether charge the final clients or not. Luckily I wasn't charged, but some stores have done it. Still, in Spain the price has been lower than a regular mini, $10 seems a bit pricey to me.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 18:15:20


Post by: Kanluwen


Infinity O-12 has a preview for us of the Briscard with Heavy Rocket Launcher.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 18:32:16


Post by: CDK


Dude don't tease with only one! lol

I'm not an Ariadna player but I think he looks pretty cool.



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 18:34:40


Post by: Kanluwen


Yeah, I should have posted more but I thought that was the best one.

And I felt they should get some exclusive stuff to drive people to them! I try to post just "one" shot over here as a rehost, in case people are workblocked.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 18:39:46


Post by: CDK


Ah I understand. Good Idea.

Well there's more pics over there people so go look!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 18:50:01


Post by: Pacific


Well, he is certainly a very interesting style! Hard to put my finger on it, but there is definitely something 'French' there


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 18:54:18


Post by: Erasoketa


I think it might be a woman, actually.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 19:17:53


Post by: Kanluwen


If it is...take note, Corvus Belli.

That's how women should be done for Ariadna.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 19:23:44


Post by: CDK


What? Look like Frenchmen?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 19:30:37


Post by: Alpharius


 Kanluwen wrote:
If it is...take note, Corvus Belli.

That's how women should be done for Ariadna.


Yes, they should take note that's how Kanluwen on Dakka Dakka likes them done up for Infinity.

I think they have sales figures that state otherwise in terms of everything else though!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 19:55:54


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I would stand on the "if this is a woman" see, realistic depiction on 28-30mm equals people wondering what gender the model really is.

Love the model, I would say its a bit odd to need binoculars on top of the visor system, but Ariadna, sometimes you have to do with what you have.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 19:59:42


Post by: Kanluwen


 Alpharius wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
If it is...take note, Corvus Belli.

That's how women should be done for Ariadna.


Yes, they should take note that's how Kanluwen on Dakka Dakka likes them done up for Infinity.

I think they have sales figures that state otherwise in terms of everything else though!

For Ariadna and Merovingia, yes.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:17:51


Post by: Alpharius


 PsychoticStorm wrote:

Love the model, I would say its a bit odd to need binoculars on top of the visor system, but Ariadna, sometimes you have to do with what you have.


Good catch!

I'm guessing that the sculptor went with what he thought looked cool vs. what 'made sense'!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:26:56


Post by: Noir


 Alpharius wrote:
 PsychoticStorm wrote:

Love the model, I would say its a bit odd to need binoculars on top of the visor system, but Ariadna, sometimes you have to do with what you have.


Good catch!

I'm guessing that the sculptor went with what he thought looked cool vs. what 'made sense'!


No, there just wearing tinted goggles, the binoculars are the visor, low tech and all. Best part is they have to pass it around the group, becouse there is only one.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:30:06


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


Yeah, if I pick up that model the binoculars gotta go. I love the way the goggles look, and the sculpt is just great with all the little bags and pouches. The Rocket Launcher looks more like a Panzerfaust to me, being two shot and all.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:35:53


Post by: plastictrees


Not my favorite Merovingian sculpt, but not bad.
Ariadna might have the best looking HMG, but Haqq has the best looking HRL so far.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:42:28


Post by: BobbaFett


It's amazing to see that even with this high quality pics, Angel's paintjobs still look good.

Question: Is this Briscard part of a 4 figure box or it is just one from a separate blister?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:48:09


Post by: Kanluwen


The last "preview" that they had was part of the ALEPH Steel Phalanx...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 20:50:01


Post by: plastictrees


The binoculars would work nicely on the ariadna spec ops mini.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 21:46:51


Post by: The CF


So... can I take this as a sign for that preview pics for November's releases are beginning to drop in?
I wonder, how long before the Raicho...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 22:09:34


Post by: Kanluwen


Infinity O-12's last preview was a week or so before the "official" previews.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 23:05:34


Post by: Alpharius


Anticipation is building!

A Raicho in time for my birthday would be nice!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 23:21:13


Post by: BobbaFett


From the painter's blog:



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 23:31:38


Post by: Pacific


Yes I can see it's a woman now!

That is an incredibly skilful bit of sculpting.

Alpharius - all of us here are rooting for the Raicho!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 23:38:46


Post by: BobbaFett


I'm not completely 100% agree with the "It's a woman" thing, guys.

It doesn't look like a "Corvus Belli female model" to me. Image better than words.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 23:38:58


Post by: d-usa


The Raicho is a lie...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/07 23:56:44


Post by: Pacific


Bobbafett, your point could be made without the extreme close-up haha! Especially as that is one of the most extreme examples.

I agree some (most?) female CB minis are like that, but perhaps this represents a new direction for some of the range?

The face could be either man or woman, there aren't really feminine hips, but the slightly dumpy butt could be either a man or a woman.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 00:30:43


Post by: Kroothawk


Men don't have Hello Kitty decoration on their Lara Croft style pony tails


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 06:59:12


Post by: The CF


Guys... guys... what if it's neither? It could be a transgender person! We can't forget the transgenders!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 07:05:59


Post by: Erasoketa


CB doesn't have only one way of making female models.



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 11:44:49


Post by: -Loki-


 Erasoketa wrote:
CB doesn't have only one way of making female models.



'I'll moonwalk all up and down your *** mother******'.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 13:27:55


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


I can't tell if its male or female either! But I still like the sculpt.

Wait! I figured out why we can't figure it out!

Its French!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 13:51:34


Post by: CDK


It is what you want it to be. There done.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 14:34:22


Post by: Janzerker


 CDK wrote:
It is what you want it to be. There done.


It's Johnny Depp. There done.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 17:55:11


Post by: Pacific


That Moblot sculpt has really grown on me. Used to think it looked far too thin, but realising it's a female sculpt (and actually quite subtly done) has made me appreciate it a lot more.

Anyone know if they were planning on re-sculpting some of the Ariadna heavy infantry though?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 18:04:47


Post by: Kanluwen


They're basically planning resculpts of a lot of the "old" sculpts.

Hellcats I know are up for it, as the "revamped" Hellcat Boarding Shotgun attests.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 18:43:09


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


And the conversation quickly shifts away from Transgendered French Johnny Depp.

I think the Lasiq sculpt is pretty hot and badass in equal parts without being cheesecake. Even if she does have heels. I like it that some of the most dangerous models in my army are females. The Muyib with Spitfire, the Lasiq sniper, my Maghariba Guard, the Odalisques.

Cheesecake sculpts be damned, in Infinity you can kick ass regardless of gender and that's awesome.

On the note of old sculpts though... OMG Minuteman. Priority 1.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 20:36:40


Post by: Kanluwen


As a very interesting note...

The PanOceanian "Shock Army of Acontcimento" starter box is showing broken image links, but the item itself is still tagged in the PanOceanian gallery. It shows the same image on the gallery as well...

Why is this interesting?

The same thing happened with the Haqqislam starter box when they revamped it.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/08 22:39:22


Post by: d-usa


So I got my copy of Paradiso today, and I have to say that it blows any other rule book or source book I have owned out of the water .

I feel that I really need to purchase the other books at some point now.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 01:17:35


Post by: Hindenburg


I guess it makes sense that they would like to revamp the jungle themed starter box. But I really wish they revamp the vanilla PanO box. It has some ugly contents that box.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 02:02:59


Post by: Ronin_eX


Honestly, Acont. is still so new that it is probably just a gremlin. Corr still needs its set and PanO, Combined and Nomads still need a resculpt of their basic box (especially PanO). It would be weird to issue a new box for Acont. before then.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 02:17:02


Post by: Kanluwen


 Ronin_eX wrote:
Honestly, Acont. is still so new that it is probably just a gremlin. Corr still needs its set and PanO, Combined and Nomads still need a resculpt of their basic box (especially PanO). It would be weird to issue a new box for Acont. before then.

See, I thought that too...

But then someone else pointed out that even the Acontcimento Regulars blisters are having the same issue.

Theory on the official forums at the moment is that it might be ABC throwing weight around due to the "likeness" of the models to those of the "Lost" characters.
The weird thing is, of course, that the one photo of the 3 pack is still present on the Sniper(Sapper) for the Regulars and that image is clearly not broken.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 03:06:15


Post by: -Loki-


 Kanluwen wrote:
Theory on the official forums at the moment is that it might be ABC throwing weight around due to the "likeness" of the models to those of the "Lost" characters.


I never noticed that before. Now I can't unsee it.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 03:10:31


Post by: Alpharius


 Kanluwen wrote:


Theory on the official forums at the moment is that it might be ABC throwing weight around due to the "likeness" of the models to those of the "Lost" characters.


This seems like Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy Action of the Highest (Lowest?) Order!

ABC, rattling legal sabres over CB's Infinity miniatures for a PanOceania Sub-Faction that kinda sorta look like characters for a show that's no longer on the air and ended with a whimper and not a bang?

Sure...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 03:38:07


Post by: Kanluwen


 Alpharius wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:


Theory on the official forums at the moment is that it might be ABC throwing weight around due to the "likeness" of the models to those of the "Lost" characters.


This seems like Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy Action of the Highest (Lowest?) Order!

ABC, rattling legal sabres over CB's Infinity miniatures for a PanOceania Sub-Faction that kinda sorta look like characters for a show that's no longer on the air and ended with a whimper and not a bang?

Sure...

Oh definitely, it's a TFHC...but it definitely is a bit more believable than the SAA starter box being redone.

Unless we're going to see the Regulars being bundled into a box of their own and the SAA starter box repackaged to not include the Knight of Montesa.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 07:42:40


Post by: Pacific


 -Loki- wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Theory on the official forums at the moment is that it might be ABC throwing weight around due to the "likeness" of the models to those of the "Lost" characters.


I never noticed that before. Now I can't unsee it.


Haha right! Well, I guess it's a credit to the sculptors?!

Although.. really... I mean, come on ! Jesus H. Christ some people need to get a life if that's true


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 12:49:57


Post by: TBD


Achilles, the Aleph starter and the Sophotects are not showing either.

They don't even have a picture on the Aleph front page, as opposed to the PanO stuff which at least still has that.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 13:50:36


Post by: CDK


I wouldn't put much into something that might just be a glitch.

They are probably getting new images ready and someone might have over written the old images by mistake, or some code was broken, etc.

Also, It shows up fine on the on-line store.

I'm glad they are doing re-sculpts more often. It's good for them as a business too. They can only expand the game so much but they can keep making minis by fazing out old ones to sell new ones.

So far I'm pretty happy with the new book even though I haven't had much chance to read it.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 20:25:45


Post by: Kanluwen




This month's "preview" from Angel.

Which is kinda interesting, since it doesn't have the Briscard...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 20:50:19


Post by: Alpharius


Seems to have a distinct lack of anything that could be the Raicho too!!!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:04:31


Post by: Kanluwen


Although interestingly, the 4 models with white bases could just be unfinished...it looks like the model with them is in fact the Spitfire Wildcat.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:05:23


Post by: Alpharius


I'm hoping that's not ALL of the models for 'November'.

I could've sworn that we were 'promised' the Raicho for this month...

And if not...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Carlos at GenCon said that November is Raicho month, and that players who have lusted for one must submit photos to Corvus Belli of their faces when they buy/receive it.


Someone's going to be in BIG trouble!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:09:02


Post by: Noir


 Alpharius wrote:
I'm hoping that's not ALL of the models for 'November'.

I could've sworn that we were 'promised' the Raicho for this month...

And if not...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Carlos at GenCon said that November is Raicho month, and that players who have lusted for one must submit photos to Corvus Belli of their faces when they buy/receive it.


Someone's going to be in BIG trouble!


It only looks like 3-4 releases, 5 is the normal target number, so I wouldn't worry just yet.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:10:05


Post by: Alpharius


You hear that Kan - you don't have to worry...

...yet!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:11:34


Post by: d-usa


Raicho is CB's Tau. Always just around the horizon to keep everybody hoping.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:12:16


Post by: Kanluwen


We are promised the Raicho.

There's no way that is all the models for November, because it's missing the one known model we have--the Briscard.

I think the one on the far left is a Tohaa model. Notably, the Gao-Tarsos jump trooper.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Alpharius wrote:
You hear that Kan - you don't have to worry...

...yet!

To be fair, they told me that the Corregidor Starter Box was going to be out before the end of the year.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:21:03


Post by: TBD


 Alpharius wrote:
Seems to have a distinct lack of anything that could be the Raicho too!!!


Maybe the Raicho got hit with the shrink ray!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Most of the leg poses again seem to be "cinematic" too

I prefer models that are standing a bit more normal with both feet on the floor instead of all the awkward running & jumping.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:49:24


Post by: PsychoticStorm


The 5 models look as if they are from the same faction, given their base, so starter maybe?

And a haqqi model.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 21:58:09


Post by: Kanluwen


The bases are seemingly irrelevant, as they're just basecoated white.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 22:18:09


Post by: PsychoticStorm


Their features seem to be the same.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 22:21:49


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm aware.

But if you look, it looks like it is just "filler" used to fluff the bases up before detailing.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/09 23:50:37


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I see a cut (and maybe round holes) as is the Nomads bases.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 01:07:52


Post by: -Loki-


 Kanluwen wrote:
We are promised the Raicho.

There's no way that is all the models for November, because it's missing the one known model we have--the Briscard.


Second from the right could definitely be the Briscard before it was finished. Legs apart, long weapon casually hanging on the shoulder. It would be this shot was prepared before the finished shot of the Briscard was done.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 01:46:50


Post by: Kanluwen


Apparently, it has been since clarified that these are some of the releases for the upcoming months.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 03:06:30


Post by: Alpharius


Say it with me everyone - RAICHO RAICHO RAICHO!

All kidding aside, I really do hope this is the month...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 05:07:17


Post by: d-usa


 Alpharius wrote:
Say it with me everyone - RAICHO RAICHO RAICHO!

All kidding aside, I really do hope this is the month...


Your man crush for Raicho is making us look bad, get a hold of yourself


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 15:41:11


Post by: Kanluwen


Yeah Alphy, what's with the mancrush?

Angel had a thing on his FB page where after he got 200 likes, he'd post something done by the chap who does 3D sculpting for CB...which means T.A.G. or Remote.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 16:32:01


Post by: Alpharius


https://www.facebook.com/StudioGiraldez

"LIKED"

Now... Raicho please!



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 17:17:55


Post by: Alpharius


Well now - THAT is confirmation - Hallelujah!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 17:34:26


Post by: Kanluwen


Indeed.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 17:39:36


Post by: TBD


Alpharius, this Sebastian (@ studio Giraldez) want the Raicho even more than you do !

I thought that was you at first, but discovered your real FB shortly after


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 17:53:31


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I will miss hearing RAICHO! in each months new releases speculation thread.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 18:19:40


Post by: Alpharius


 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I will miss hearing RAICHO! in each months new releases speculation thread.


I don't think you will - I know I won't!

Although I will have to find something else to obsess over now...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 19:05:30


Post by: Inanimate


The Raicho model seems to be posed like in the illustration. I'm okay with that! I'm almost certain now that I'll order one when they become available.



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 19:41:47


Post by: Alkasyn


The Haqqislam model is either the Sekban Naval Unit, or the Barid Hacker- nothing else's in the new book.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 19:44:27


Post by: plastictrees


 Alpharius wrote:
 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I will miss hearing RAICHO! in each months new releases speculation thread.


I don't think you will - I know I won't!

Although I will have to find something else to obsess over now...


That could just be a blank base with white photoshop scribble above it. You might still be disappointed yet!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 19:54:24


Post by: heartserenade


If I could only come up with a back story and rationale on why a Raicho is helping my Haqq army...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 20:02:35


Post by: PsychoticStorm


 heartserenade wrote:
If I could only come up with a back story and rationale on why a Raicho is helping my Haqq army...


An ADHL job, a good salvage team, a good engineer and a good hacker later.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 22:17:10


Post by: The CF


No no no no, you're thinking all wrong!
It was a lot of sepsitorizing, and now you have a Sepsitorized Haqqislam army led by a Raicho!
Tadaa!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/10 22:26:08


Post by: Absolutionis


So an entire army of sepsitored Haqqislamites find an ancient Morat storage facility where all the Raichos were being hidden from Alpharius (sepsitored long ago). The sepsitored Haqqislamites sepsitor the Raicho, and themselves again.
Spoiler:


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 00:05:37


Post by: -Loki-


 Alkasyn wrote:
The Haqqislam model is either the Sekban Naval Unit, or the Barid Hacker- nothing else's in the new book.


There's still stuff from previous books not released. Like, you know, 95% of the doctor models.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 01:31:26


Post by: plastictrees


 -Loki- wrote:
 Alkasyn wrote:
The Haqqislam model is either the Sekban Naval Unit, or the Barid Hacker- nothing else's in the new book.


There's still stuff from previous books not released. Like, you know, 95% of the doctor models.


The teaser definitely has "skipping across the battlefield with a medical purse" potential.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 15:27:20


Post by: Kanluwen


I wish they'd hurry up and post their "official" preview...


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 15:35:14


Post by: Pacific


I keep coming to this page after seeing there are unread posts, hoping that it is indeed the new pics that have been posted!

I do realise however that the chances are I have just done the same thing to other people looking out on the thread


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 15:42:28


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 Pacific wrote:
I keep coming to this page after seeing there are unread posts, hoping that it is indeed the new pics that have been posted!

I do realise however that the chances are I have just done the same thing to other people looking out on the thread

Yes, yes you have dammit....


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 19:28:37


Post by: Kanluwen




So...Gwailos with Rocket Launcher blister? Sepsitorized Ko Dali?

Caliban Engineer?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 20:13:48


Post by: Pacific


That foot has got more highlighting and detail on it than I can manage on my entire model


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 21:51:29


Post by: Kanluwen


Shortly after I posted that, Angel clarified that is NOT an Infinity model.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/11 22:24:15


Post by: plastictrees


He's toying with our nerdish emotions. Death is too good for him!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 18:18:48


Post by: BobbaFett


Oh my god.
Ajax the Great on Beasts of War.




INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 18:24:51


Post by: Kanluwen


Looks much, much better than his concept art.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 18:35:09


Post by: CDK


Ajax is amazing!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 18:42:17


Post by: Absolutionis


That's why I tolerate the anime "look" of Infinity art. The models end up being realistic and believable.

Ajax is especially one of the greatest sculpts I've ever seen.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 19:23:09


Post by: Pacific


Some green-grabs for the work blocked, or anyone who thought Ajax was a Russian lady in a red dress and a peaked hat!





INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 19:30:49


Post by: Alpharius


Ajax is indeed an awesome sculpt, and makes me glad I've got a growing Aleph faction!

However...

"This might be the best miniature we've ever seen!"

i know we all live in the moment, but, Hello! Jotum anyone? The miniature that 'forced' me to start collecting PanO?

Also, we all know the Raicho is going to make people say the same thing in a few short days!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 19:36:19


Post by: Absolutionis


TAGs are nice because they're big, but ultimately they're just large machine sculpts with added details.

The organic look of a human-ish sculpt is arguably much more impressive.

Plus, I'd argue that the Anathematic is more impressive than the Jotum.

Either way, trying to choose the best Infinity miniature is like trying to choose your favorite child. They're all awesome. And you have hundreds of them.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 19:41:33


Post by: Alpharius


 Absolutionis wrote:
TAGs are nice because they're big, but ultimately they're just large machine sculpts with added details.

The organic look of a human-ish sculpt is arguably much more impressive.

Plus, I'd argue that the Anathematic is more impressive than the Jotum.

Either way, trying to choose the best Infinity miniature is like trying to choose your favorite child. They're all awesome. And you have hundreds of them.


Funny you should mention the Anathematic, as that's the miniature that 'forced' me to start a Combined Army!

INFINITY is good for that a lot, actually, and I bet I'm not alone there.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:12:08


Post by: Hindenburg


I don't like him. He looks to much like an attempt at a Space Marine or something.
All in all I am not a fan of the greek themed units for Aleph.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:15:10


Post by: Alkasyn


 plastictrees wrote:
 -Loki- wrote:
 Alkasyn wrote:
The Haqqislam model is either the Sekban Naval Unit, or the Barid Hacker- nothing else's in the new book.


There's still stuff from previous books not released. Like, you know, 95% of the doctor models.


The teaser definitely has "skipping across the battlefield with a medical purse" potential.


True that, but if we count all the variants we do not have sculpts for then indeed that'd be a big load.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:53:17


Post by: BobbaFett


I wish we could have more pics of this miniature.


By the way, it was sculpted by the same guy who made the Anathematic, the Cutter, the Imperial Agent Crane Rank....


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:56:09


Post by: Pacific


So.. anyone going to try and sculpt a beard onto him?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:57:05


Post by: Kanluwen


Nope!

I like him as is...and I'm not really a big fan of the Warmachine styled jumbo weapons.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:57:16


Post by: Alpharius


 Hindenburg wrote:
I don't like him. He looks to much like an attempt at a Space Marine or something.
All in all I am not a fan of the greek themed units for Aleph.


So... there really wasn't any chance you were going to like it then, was there?

Good thing there's more than enough for everyone's taste in the Infinity range!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:59:03


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


No.
NO.
NONONONONO.

Someone post me that GIF.

I saw that artwork, and Ajax is this big fat angry bastard who's got this hammer held like a sledge and is yelling his lungs out through a bushy beard.

And then we get this guy.

*flips table*

Cool Sculpt? Yes. Ajax? No.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 20:59:57


Post by: Boss Salvage


 Pacific wrote:
So.. anyone going to try and sculpt a beard onto him?
*raises pseudopod meekly?*

I did expect a beard, but I don't need one badly enough. Here's hoping at least one of the Homeridae gets a beard though! *crosses tentacles for Penthesilea *

But seriously, awesome sculpt, happy to see him hitting so soon. I've had little desire to field ALEPH until the Iliad portion detonated into ridiculousness with Paradiso, and suddenly find myself wanting All the Myrmidons to accompany the heroes ...

Related: You can take all the named captains (10) in a 500 point list, with 1 SWC to spare

EDIT: What's with the manpurse?? And no version with dual-wielded combis

- Salvage


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:01:58


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 Pacific wrote:
So.. anyone going to try and sculpt a beard onto him?


I'd suggest a huge afro, as a reason for him not wearing a helmet (shades of GW silliness there)

but a nice clean sculpt none the less


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:02:19


Post by: CDK


Of course the paint job is amazing too! l think i want that figure just for the hell of it. I'm sure he could a proxy for something. Sepsorized Ajax!

@Alpharius. So when are you finally going to change your avatar to a Jotum?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:03:41


Post by: Kanluwen


I always kind of wrote that bit on his face off as shadowing rather than a beard, to be honest.

Phoenix definitely had a beard though in his concept art.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:04:25


Post by: Hindenburg


 Alpharius wrote:

So... there really wasn't any chance you were going to like it then, was there?

Good thing there's more than enough for everyone's taste in the Infinity range!


Not really, no. I didn't even like the artwork very much.
I have high hopes for a future Hindu sectorial. Nagas for all!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:10:50


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


If there is a Hindu Sectorial I demand double Maruts.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:20:30


Post by: PsychoticStorm


Amazing, but massive model!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:25:16


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


No damnit!

THIS!



This is what we want!

I must be the only one who thinks the gorilla version is more badass.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:39:19


Post by: Alpharius


I'm not so sure there's a beard on him in that picture, but it would be easy enough to paint one on him, never mind trying to sculpt one on!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:40:06


Post by: Kanluwen


 Alpharius wrote:
I'm not so sure there's a beard on him in that picture, but it would be easy enough to paint one on him, never mind trying to sculpt one on!

Shadowing strikes again!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 21:58:19


Post by: CDK


You could totally put a beard on him man. I like the hammer up pose too. It looks like it's about to come down on a MF'er.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 22:02:03


Post by: -Loki-


 Alkasyn wrote:
 plastictrees wrote:
 -Loki- wrote:
 Alkasyn wrote:
The Haqqislam model is either the Sekban Naval Unit, or the Barid Hacker- nothing else's in the new book.


There's still stuff from previous books not released. Like, you know, 95% of the doctor models.


The teaser definitely has "skipping across the battlefield with a medical purse" potential.


True that, but if we count all the variants we do not have sculpts for then indeed that'd be a big load.


Doesn't mean they shouldn't be done. The fact that there's loadouts not sculpted definitely means there's scope to add them, considering Paradiso added so little to everything except Aleph and Tohaa. Hopefully they use the breathing room to bulk out the current ranges with loadouts that don't have models. There's plenty of time until the next book to do it. Otherwise we're just going to end up with 6 months of nothing but Aleph.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 22:08:23


Post by: Emperors_Champion


I'm not overly keen on the scuplt or the concept. But seen as I instantly thought Warmachine when I first saw the concept, I'm very pleased indeed that they bought the sculpt right back to our beloved Infinity style! Phew!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 22:28:20


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


My favorite part is that it's an EXP CC.

I just imagine him hammering someone and BOOM!

Do I care how that works? No... no not really. Don't try and explain that much awesome.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 22:35:54


Post by: Von Skyfury


There you go =)



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 23:40:47


Post by: BobbaFett


 -Loki- wrote:


About Doctor Models

Doesn't mean they shouldn't be done. The fact that there's loadouts not sculpted definitely means there's scope to add them, considering Paradiso added so little to everything except Aleph and Tohaa. Hopefully they use the breathing room to bulk out the current ranges with loadouts that don't have models. There's plenty of time until the next book to do it. Otherwise we're just going to end up with 6 months of nothing but Aleph.


I'm not agree about that. I can find many reasons, let me try to explain my point.

First of all, CB is a samll company with a constantly growing catalogue. Do you have any idea on how problematic that is? it is like a restaurant with 400 options in the menu.
Making miniatures like the Hospitalier Knight doctor, Djanbazan Doctor, Asawira Doctor... that would more of a problem than anything else.

Second. Making a miniature means that they must have something big representing the option. A Sniper Rifle, A HMG... Doctor option can be easily represented by the basic version of the troop because it has the same weapon.

Third. I think the customers of this beautiful range from a small company have a limit of miniatures they are willing to buy. I mean there is no need of 5 models from the same troop profile, I think people just won't buy another blister of an already seen miniature unless is incredibly awesome, specially while there are new troops with no miniature yet.

Fourth. I will prefer CB to re-sculpt some of the worst miniatures of the range (Iskaller, please) than focusing their art-skills in providing more unncessary weapon options. And IMHO the only miniature we need from every troop profile is the basic one and the one with HMG/Sniper/Spitfire/RocketLauncher/HackerDevice

Those are my two cents.
If my message sounds weird/attacking/offensive, please, don't take it like that. i don't want to sound rude. I really hate discussing in forums.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/15 23:44:56


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


This only caused... so many more questions.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 00:08:04


Post by: -Loki-


 BobbaFett wrote:
First of all, CB is a samll company with a constantly growing catalogue. Do you have any idea on how problematic that is? it is like a restaurant with 400 options in the menu.
Making miniatures like the Hospitalier Knight doctor, Djanbazan Doctor, Asawira Doctor... that would more of a problem than anything else.


And that's the situation they put themselves in. They may not like it, but they keep doing it to themselves every time they decide to add yet another unit without doing something about their backlog. Convert isn't really an option when they make models of this type either - with them being true 25mm scale, it makes converting an absolute nightmare for people good at converting metal models.

There's ways to reduce it. Boxing models is something they've been doing lately which reduces the amount of blisters and SKUs.

 BobbaFett wrote:
Second. Making a miniature means that they must have something big representing the option. A Sniper Rifle, A HMG... Doctor option can be easily represented by the basic version of the troop because it has the same weapon.


Go look at the doctor models. Tell me thay're just the basic version of the infantry model in a different pose.

Doctor models do have something to represent them. Their syringe gun and medi pack. That's just as much an equipment difference as a sniper rifle. No, being told to just paint a white wrist band is not good enough.

This is where conversion sets come in handy. If they just released a pack that had some syringe guns and medi packs in it, I could go buy say, an Asawira with combi rifle, stick them on the model, and I now have an actual Asawira doctor.

As it is now, I have to go buy a Ghulam doctor, cut the syringe gun off, remodel it so it's actually got a grip and a non mangled back end, and throw the rest of the model in the bits box. That's unacceptable.

 BobbaFett wrote:
Third. I think the customers of this beautiful range from a small company have a limit of miniatures they are willing to buy. I mean there is no need of 5 models from the same troop profile, I think people just won't buy another blister of an already seen miniature unless is incredibly awesome, specially while there are new troops with no miniature yet.


That doesn't mean the options shouldn't be there. I'm not talking about putting out different models for 3 different models with different mines. Doctors have a visually different loadout, which is shown on the actually released doctor models.

Not to mention, what you're saying still applies. If someone wants a doctor model, they are going to end up buying a duplicate of a model they probably have to paint a visual indicator on. So people are still buying more models. The same models

 BobbaFett wrote:
Fourth. I will prefer CB to re-sculpt some of the worst miniatures of the range (Iskaller, please) than focusing their art-skills in providing more unncessary weapon options. And IMHO the only miniature we need from every troop profile is the basic one and the one with HMG/Sniper/Spitfire/RocketLauncher/HackerDevice


Go look at doctor models.

Tell me what equipment they're carrying.

 BobbaFett wrote:
Those are my two cents.
If my message sounds weird/attacking/offensive, please, don't take it like that. i don't want to sound rude. I really hate discussing in forums.


Not at all. I also only used doctors as an example. There's other options floating around that hvae no models, and nor variants of 'rifle + x'. Telling people to go convert these models wouldn't be such a problem if Corvus Belli provided packs of items to do the conversions. Or at least for MAS to make them, I'm sure MAS wouldn't mind making some resin weapon and item packs.

But I completely disagree with your comments about doctor models. They have their own equipment, and they deserve their own models as much as any other weapon varient.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 00:24:24


Post by: Pacific


You've answered your own point there though Loki. It's all about putting things into boxes wherever possible rather than blister packs - something that apparently the traders want (to make merchandising easier), and also something they're doing so that they can get new customers to stock their product range without scaring them off because of the massive range of different goods.

I agree it would be nice to have the option, but there are plenty of other unit entries which have a more pressing need for miniatures - I mean, would you rather the sculptors worked on a djanbazan doctor model, or a new boxset of Kaplan Tactical mercenaries? Or they made a knight-doctor rather than a Raicho (that one's for Alpharius )?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 00:38:40


Post by: -Loki-


Oh, I'm not saying new stuff doesn't been to be made. What I'm saying is that there's very little new stuff outside of Aleph and Tohaa, so there's a lot of room to add some of these options that have fallen back before the fourth book. Because as it looks, there's not much new to release for other factions, and if we just end up getting 6 months of Aleph and Tohaa once they release the 2-3 new units other factions got, my interest in the game will seriously drop.

And yes, I'd much rather some unpresented options get models before they remodel older stuff.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 00:45:45


Post by: Savnock


I'm with Chemical Cutthroat when it comes to Ajax. The new sculpt is great for the most part, but not what I wanted. Something simian would have stood out from the rest of the lithe Aleph minis really well.

The new guy also does suffer a bit from SpezzMuhreen-itis. Big hammer, big shoulderpads.

If I ever get the chance to work on this model, there will be a beard, conversion for added mass around the waistline (probably removing the man-purse to do that), and a different weapon-head.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 00:54:16


Post by: Kanluwen


 -Loki- wrote:

 BobbaFett wrote:
Second. Making a miniature means that they must have something big representing the option. A Sniper Rifle, A HMG... Doctor option can be easily represented by the basic version of the troop because it has the same weapon.


Go look at the doctor models. Tell me thay're just the basic version of the infantry model in a different pose.

Doctor models do have something to represent them. Their syringe gun and medi pack. That's just as much an equipment difference as a sniper rifle. No, being told to just paint a white wrist band is not good enough.

This is where conversion sets come in handy. If they just released a pack that had some syringe guns and medi packs in it, I could go buy say, an Asawira with combi rifle, stick them on the model, and I now have an actual Asawira doctor.

As it is now, I have to go buy a Ghulam doctor, cut the syringe gun off, remodel it so it's actually got a grip and a non mangled back end, and throw the rest of the model in the bits box. That's unacceptable.

You don't have to. The majority of Doctors would be easy to represent simply by adding the medikit as a pouch on their belt/webbing.


You want unacceptable?
There are several models, quite a few of which are Lieutenant and basic infantry options, only available in Starter Boxes.

That's unacceptable.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 01:00:56


Post by: -Loki-


 Kanluwen wrote:
 -Loki- wrote:

 BobbaFett wrote:
Second. Making a miniature means that they must have something big representing the option. A Sniper Rifle, A HMG... Doctor option can be easily represented by the basic version of the troop because it has the same weapon.


Go look at the doctor models. Tell me thay're just the basic version of the infantry model in a different pose.

Doctor models do have something to represent them. Their syringe gun and medi pack. That's just as much an equipment difference as a sniper rifle. No, being told to just paint a white wrist band is not good enough.

This is where conversion sets come in handy. If they just released a pack that had some syringe guns and medi packs in it, I could go buy say, an Asawira with combi rifle, stick them on the model, and I now have an actual Asawira doctor.

As it is now, I have to go buy a Ghulam doctor, cut the syringe gun off, remodel it so it's actually got a grip and a non mangled back end, and throw the rest of the model in the bits box. That's unacceptable.

You don't have to. The majority of Doctors would be easy to represent simply by adding the medikit as a pouch on their belt/webbing.


And you can represent a sniper rifle by digging through your bits box, finding a scope, and putting it on a basic rifle model.

But we still get sniper rifle models.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 01:19:00


Post by: heartserenade


I can totally see them making a ox (at least for Haqqislam) of just Doctor models. That, or blisters with medikits and other bits would be good enough.

I'd like it if they at least update the ugly Ghulam Doctor sculpt.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 01:20:54


Post by: BobbaFett


 heartserenade wrote:
I'd like it if they at least update the ugly Ghulam Doctor sculpt.


And the Najjarun, the worst human miniature from this range.

I won't include pictures because I love you, guys.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 01:37:36


Post by: Kanluwen


 -Loki- wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 -Loki- wrote:

 BobbaFett wrote:
Second. Making a miniature means that they must have something big representing the option. A Sniper Rifle, A HMG... Doctor option can be easily represented by the basic version of the troop because it has the same weapon.


Go look at the doctor models. Tell me thay're just the basic version of the infantry model in a different pose.

Doctor models do have something to represent them. Their syringe gun and medi pack. That's just as much an equipment difference as a sniper rifle. No, being told to just paint a white wrist band is not good enough.

This is where conversion sets come in handy. If they just released a pack that had some syringe guns and medi packs in it, I could go buy say, an Asawira with combi rifle, stick them on the model, and I now have an actual Asawira doctor.

As it is now, I have to go buy a Ghulam doctor, cut the syringe gun off, remodel it so it's actually got a grip and a non mangled back end, and throw the rest of the model in the bits box. That's unacceptable.

You don't have to. The majority of Doctors would be easy to represent simply by adding the medikit as a pouch on their belt/webbing.


And you can represent a sniper rifle by digging through your bits box, finding a scope, and putting it on a basic rifle model.

But we still get sniper rifle models.

That's actually nowhere near the same thing and I think you know that you're reaching for this example.

The Paramedic/Doctor options for units such as the majority of PanOceania's units/Haqqislam's units, Dakini Tactbots, etc do not require them to be posed like a doctor.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 01:43:20


Post by: -Loki-


 Kanluwen wrote:
 -Loki- wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 -Loki- wrote:

 BobbaFett wrote:
Second. Making a miniature means that they must have something big representing the option. A Sniper Rifle, A HMG... Doctor option can be easily represented by the basic version of the troop because it has the same weapon.


Go look at the doctor models. Tell me thay're just the basic version of the infantry model in a different pose.

Doctor models do have something to represent them. Their syringe gun and medi pack. That's just as much an equipment difference as a sniper rifle. No, being told to just paint a white wrist band is not good enough.

This is where conversion sets come in handy. If they just released a pack that had some syringe guns and medi packs in it, I could go buy say, an Asawira with combi rifle, stick them on the model, and I now have an actual Asawira doctor.

As it is now, I have to go buy a Ghulam doctor, cut the syringe gun off, remodel it so it's actually got a grip and a non mangled back end, and throw the rest of the model in the bits box. That's unacceptable.

You don't have to. The majority of Doctors would be easy to represent simply by adding the medikit as a pouch on their belt/webbing.


And you can represent a sniper rifle by digging through your bits box, finding a scope, and putting it on a basic rifle model.

But we still get sniper rifle models.

That's actually nowhere near the same thing and I think you know that you're reaching for this example.

The Paramedic/Doctor options for units such as the majority of PanOceania's units/Haqqislam's units, Dakini Tactbots, etc do not require them to be posed like a doctor.


Not talking about posing. I'm talking about equipment. Yes, sniper rifles in Infinity look different to ordinary rifles. Medkits look different to leather pouches. There's a handy picture in the Infinity rulebook that shows what a medkit and syringe gun looks like. So yes, I'm quite comfortable in saying that if it's okay to call a pouch a medit and syringe, it's quite okay to slap a scope on the Djanzaban with a rifle and say its trhe same as the Djanzaban with sniper rifle model.

And I'll say again - this would be perfectly fine if Corvus Belli simply did a bits pack with these kinds of equipment. As it is, if you don't want a non-confusing army, you need to butcher a doctor model for its syringe gun and medkit.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 03:06:38


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


 BobbaFett wrote:
 heartserenade wrote:
I'd like it if they at least update the ugly Ghulam Doctor sculpt.


And the Najjarun, the worst human miniature from this range.

I won't include pictures because I love you, guys.


Bobba I <3 you.

I can't stand that model and I'm a huge Haqq fan. I run the Al-Hawwa hacker model as the Najjarun, because that sculpt is awesome and I need an Engineer.

When I played in a no Proxy tourney I just stared and said, "I will not put the Najjarun on the field, it is a disservice to this game."


That being said, the Minuteman sculpt is a very very close second. "WHOOPS I DROPPED MY PANZERFAUST!"


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 03:13:20


Post by: Chaplain Pallantide


Well my two cents is this...

I LOVE the Ajax model! I think he is awesome, well sculpted and makes me want another faction, aside from my unpainted Yu Jing and Caledonian armies I already have

my second cent is, I agree with BobbaFett, I want to see better sculpts of older models. Especially the antipodes! I want better looking Antipodes! and a few other models...

EDIT: I forgot to add that Ajax is masterfully painted too!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 03:44:26


Post by: heartserenade


This is also why I don't have an Engineer model for my Haqqislam. Even if Paradiso forces me to have one.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 04:14:33


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


 heartserenade wrote:
This is also why I don't have an Engineer model for my Haqqislam. Even if Paradiso forces me to have one.


Amen brother.

Proxy models ftw.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 09:34:55


Post by: Pacific


Ah come on guys he isn't that bad

Just looks like a cool dude out resting his leg on a box..


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 10:49:43


Post by: Charles Rampant


I'm actually just painting up the Najjarun at the moment. I like him. He looks like a dude. His box is probably full of porn. He has his pistol out, and cool shades. What is there not to love?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 11:25:27


Post by: BobbaFett




From the painter's blog.



INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 11:33:30


Post by: Symbio Joe


Now stop ... Hammertime!
Makes one wonder why other major companies did not come up with such a nice pose sooner.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 11:35:54


Post by: BrookM


Great pose, screams of action and whatnot, not that blown away by the hammer though, a bit silly.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 11:40:02


Post by: heartserenade


Is it just me, or has it occurred to anyone that he can also serve as a base for a converted Space Marine?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 11:41:55


Post by: Casey's Law


 heartserenade wrote:
Is it just me, or has it occurred to anyone that he can also serve as a base for a converted Space Marine?

Well played, sir. Well played.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 12:02:52


Post by: endtransmission


 -Loki- wrote:
Otherwise we're just going to end up with 6 months of nothing but Aleph.


But... but... you say that like it is a bad thing?


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 13:14:03


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


I just want Atalanta and her adorable Spotbot, and crazy amazon woman.

I know I've said this already, but those will tip my hand into playing an ALEPH force.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 13:17:41


Post by: Chaplain Pallantide


Ok I need to know, how good is Ajax in game? And how would you field him, what type of force would you use? Thanks!


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 13:26:10


Post by: Kanluwen


 Chaplain Pallantide wrote:
Ok I need to know, how good is Ajax in game? And how would you field him, what type of force would you use? Thanks!

He's fairly good.

Ajax can be fielded in either the Steel Phalanx Sectorial list for ALEPH or Vanilla ALEPH.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 13:31:36


Post by: Chaplain Pallantide


I was thinking about going the Steel Phalanx route...thoughts on a list? Or should I take this to the Infinity section...

PS: Is it just me or does Ajax give off a more "Hockey player about to take a slap shot" kind of pose, especially with his huge gym bag.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 13:37:38


Post by: Kanluwen


 Chaplain Pallantide wrote:
I was thinking about going the Steel Phalanx route...thoughts on a list? Or should I take this to the Infinity section...

PS: Is it just me or does Ajax give off a more "Hockey player about to take a slap shot" kind of pose, especially with his huge gym bag.

I'll tell you what.

PM me a list of what you're thinking of, modelwise, and I'll cook you up a list using the Steel Phalanx list since it's not in the Devil Team Army Builder yet.


INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 13:40:30


Post by: BobbaFett


 Chaplain Pallantide wrote:
Ok I need to know, how good is Ajax in game? And how would you field him, what type of force would you use? Thanks!


ALEPH
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 (Regs: 10/Irrs: 0):

AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW (43 | 0.5)
MOV:4-4 CC:18 BS:13 PH:16 WIP:12 ARM:5 BTS:-6 W:2
Regular, Impetuous, Cube 2.0, Fireteam: Enomotarchos
Berserk, Natural Born Warrior, V: No Wound Incapacitation


MYRMIDON OFFICER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Zero-V Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW (39 | 1)
MOV:4-4 CC:17 BS:12 PH:13 WIP:14 ARM:2 BTS:-3 W:1
Regular, Frenzy, Cube 2.0
Martial Arts L3, ODD: Optical Disruptor, Fireteam: Enomotarchos
V: No Wound Incapacitation, Chain of Command


MACHAON Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Zero-V Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW (39 | 0.5)
MOV:4-4 CC:18 BS:12 PH:13 WIP:15 ARM:2 BTS:-3 W:1
Regular, Frenzy, Cube 2.0, Fireteam: Enomotarchos
Martial Arts L3, Doctor
ODD: Optical Disruptor, V: No Wound Incapacitation


2x MYRMIDON Hacker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW (37 | 0.5)
MOV:4-4 CC:17 BS:12 PH:13 WIP:13 ARM:2 BTS:0 W:1
Regular, Frenzy, Cube
Martial Arts L3, ODD: Optical Disruptor, Hacking Device


2x MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW (16)
MOV:4-4 CC:17 BS:12 PH:13 WIP:13 ARM:2 BTS:0 W:1
Regular, Frenzy, Cube
Martial Arts L3, ODD: Optical Disruptor


2x MYRMIDON Spitfire, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW (32 | 1)
MOV:4-4 CC:17 BS:12 PH:13 WIP:13 ARM:2 BTS:0 W:1
Regular, Frenzy, Cube
Martial Arts L3, ODD: Optical Disruptor


LAMEDH Rebot Electric Pulse (8)
MOV:6-6 CC:8 BS:8 PH:8 WIP:13 ARM:0 BTS:-3 STR:1
Regular, Not Impetuous, G: Remote Presence
CH: Mimetism, Multiterrain, Repeater



299 Points | SWC: 5


I made this list using the existing Army builder from the official site and combining them with the text from this post from the official forum: ALEPH Paradiso profiles in Devil Team-like layout

Ok, here is my idea....
I will use AJAX and the Myrmidon officer as Enomotarchos, I will make two fireteams both with a Myrmidon Hacker, Myrmidon with Spitfire & Myrmidon with Chain Rifle.

Machaon will be the Lt. and also doctor, he can be Enomotarchos and heal his companions.
Myrmidon Officer is great because she has Chain of Command is Machaon dies, also she provides V-0 grenades for advancing against visors.
AJAX is just cool.
Hacker will be crucial when dealing with campaign objectives.
Spitfires are the key miniatures, they will be Team Leaders most of the time.
The remote can be replaced by Ghost Servant remotes if you want.





INFINITY News & Rumors - September Releases on pg. 414! @ 2012/11/16 15:49:14


Post by: The Infinite


It just popped into my mind; you could paint a big "Last Airbender" arrow on his head, and you'd have a super-buff cyber-Aang about to swat a pesky Firebender...

What has been thought up cannot be unthought...