Lou_Cypher wrote: All records expunged from the site. Interesting....
Did it go out too early? The same thing happened with this novel as well which also has me excited.
THE STORY
Excelsis is the city of secrets, a grand and imposing bastion of civilisation in the savage Realm of Beasts. Within its winding streets and shadowy back alleys, merchants deal in raw prophecy mined from an ancient fragment of the World That Was, and even the poorest man may earn a glimpse of the future. Yet not all such prophecies can be trusted. When Corporal Armand Callis of the city guard stumbles upon a dark secret, he finds himself on the run from his former comrades, framed for a crime he did not commit. Only the Witch Hunter Hanniver Toll knows the truth of his innocence. Together the pair must race against time to save Excelsis from a cataclysm that would drown the city in madness and fear.
There was a Kairos pic in the comments of the original facebook comments post, all got deleted and the article updated. Didn't get a good look at it but looked as stunning as this does easily.
Bottle wrote:Fantastic model! Instantly makes me regret choosing Khorne/Bloodbound for my Chaos faction.
Can always start another army . Also who says they can't be friends? Or if the fluff says they can't be friends, they are not working together for the battle, but once the battle is finished they will turn on each other?
Man, the Tzeentch stuff has been superb. If this stuff had been the showcase models for AoS when it first released, I think people's impression of the game would have been different.
Now, I just have to decide if I'd like to do Tzeentch in the 40k of Wh-AOS realm...
Wow not a single whine about how its garbage and they prefer the old one? Or how brimstone horrors shouldn't exist because they weren't in older editions?
That's impressive, Dakka forums.
Insanely beautiful model though. Those wings look like a pain to paint/transport though.
... only complain I may point is there may not be a second pair of legs, by the looks of it. If both builds share the same kit, it's unlikely there will be a second pair of legs :/
Well if they just get better and better each release, and a lot of us like Magnus and not this one blows Magnus out of the water, just imagine the Slannesh version is going to be like.
Ah crude! I haven't finished painting my 2 LoC conversions yet. They look too small now. I guess they'll make good Tz Daemon Princes for eBay. But I've got to have that LoC.
I did a quick size comparison using Microsoft Paint, matching the size of the Brimstone Horrors and the base of the LoC is four 25mm bases wide. So either it is on the 100mm round base, or on an oval base (which I what I hope)
Bottle wrote:Fantastic model! Instantly makes me regret choosing Khorne/Bloodbound for my Chaos faction.
Can always start another army . Also who says they can't be friends? Or if the fluff says they can't be friends, they are not working together for the battle, but once the battle is finished they will turn on each other?
Haha, true. But I have also chosen Skaven as my second chaos faction (painting some up right now).
Do I need a third Chaos army? I don't even have 1000 points painted yet :-p
unmercifulconker wrote: I know its too early to wish, but just imagine what a Keeper of Secrets would look like with that quality!
Yep. Plenty of vague rumours around from chaps like Hastings (from memory?) that we will see new Greater Daemons for all the gods. Also for Age of Sigmar they are certainly getting the setting ripe for a full blooded return of Slaanesh and Aelfs. Question I think is more WHEN rather than IF
Bottle wrote:Fantastic model! Instantly makes me regret choosing Khorne/Bloodbound for my Chaos faction.
Can always start another army . Also who says they can't be friends? Or if the fluff says they can't be friends, they are not working together for the battle, but once the battle is finished they will turn on each other?
Haha, true. But I have also chosen Skaven as my second chaos faction (painting some up right now).
Do I need a third Chaos army? I don't even have 1000 points painted yet :-p
unmercifulconker wrote: I know its too early to wish, but just imagine what a Keeper of Secrets would look like with that quality!
Yep. Plenty of vague rumours around from chaps like Hastings (from memory?) that we will see new Greater Daemons for all the gods. Also for Age of Sigmar they are certainly getting the setting ripe for a full blooded return of Slaanesh and Aelfs. Question I think is more WHEN rather than IF
Certainly hope so!
I like my warriors to be big bulky monsters but its so refreshing to see a more slender muscle tone, glad they didn't go with a butchy bird on this fella.
Bottle wrote:Fantastic model! Instantly makes me regret choosing Khorne/Bloodbound for my Chaos faction.
Can always start another army . Also who says they can't be friends? Or if the fluff says they can't be friends, they are not working together for the battle, but once the battle is finished they will turn on each other?
Haha, true. But I have also chosen Skaven as my second chaos faction (painting some up right now).
Do I need a third Chaos army? I don't even have 1000 points painted yet :-p
This model would be such a joy to paint though...
You can use them all together if that helps
You are definitely not making this easier one me! I have always wanted to paint a giant kit too...
Also the fluff sounds pretty awesome as well since tzeentch is going to focus on what the normal people are doing since tzeentch is waging warfare through cults and intrigue via corrupting people in the newly built cities.
Yep, it's a change we can believe in.
Though the same old problems of a dying wallet will remain the same.
Bottle wrote:Fantastic model! Instantly makes me regret choosing Khorne/Bloodbound for my Chaos faction.
Can always start another army . Also who says they can't be friends? Or if the fluff says they can't be friends, they are not working together for the battle, but once the battle is finished they will turn on each other?
Haha, true. But I have also chosen Skaven as my second chaos faction (painting some up right now).
Do I need a third Chaos army? I don't even have 1000 points painted yet :-p
H.B.M.C. wrote: Pretty impressive model (although I hope it has a few different head options).
Doesn't the article say that they'll be showing Kairos later?
Correct.
Atia stated in the comments on her blog that people would want to buy at least three LoCs.
One to build Kairos, the other two to build the different head and staff options.
Ernster wrote: I may pick it up and I don't play Age of Sigmar. I'm guessing price of $115 USD. he is fantastic and cant wait to see the alternate versions.
That would be great, but Magnus was $130, so I'd guess at a base minimum, its gonna be $130, I expect more though if it truly is a dual model and can be used in both AoS and 40K.
@Chopxticks, I was thinking $115 based on the Bloodthirster a generic demon. Magnus $130 based on the same price of Skarbrand due to being special characters and all.
Chopxsticks wrote: That would be great, but Magnus was $130, so I'd guess at a base minimum, its gonna be $130, I expect more though if it truly is a dual model and can be used in both AoS and 40K.
I think it'll be no more than $115. Let's look at 3 facts
1) It has been stated that this model is that same size as a BT ($115)
2) Magnus ($130) is slightly bigger than a BT 3)Skarbrand is only $130 because he has an extra sprue more than the BT.
Since we don't know that there are any other builds than the LoC & FW (compared to the 4 builds of the BT + Skarbrand), we can assume that it will have no more than 3 sprues.
$115 seems to be the most likely price.
Galef wrote: 3)Skarbrand is only $130 because he has an extra sprue more than the BT.
Actually both have two sprues. Both models share this SPRUE, the Bloodthirster gets this SPRUE while Skarbrand gets this SPRUE. As for the price difference, ...
Galef wrote: 3)Skarbrand is only $130 because he has an extra sprue more than the BT.
Actually both have two sprues. Both models share this SPRUE, the Bloodthirster gets this SPRUE while Skarbrand gets this SPRUE. As for the price difference, ...
Skarbrand was released by pre-2016 GW, which is a pretty significant point imo. I'd expect the 'new' GW to put the LoC at $115 so it matches the Thirster.
Actually both have two sprues. Both models share this SPRUE, the Bloodthirster gets this SPRUE while Skarbrand gets this SPRUE. As for the price difference, ...
I've heard several people getting the Skarbrand kit and it having all 3 Sprues, but I have not witnessed this myself.
Chikout wrote: Assuming the bases are the same size, here is a size comparison.
Also keep in mind the Skarbrand is on a ROUND base (not sure if 80mm or 100mm), while BloodThirster comes on an OVAL base. I'd imagine that would change that size comparison a bit. I hoping the LoC isn't THAT tall. Mainly because that means Fateweaver, the old frail T5 geezer, would also be that huge.
That is honestly the nicest miniature ever released for chaos, no stupid skull pimples, no lazy sculpting excused away as blaargh it's chaos, just a beautiful, beautiful miniature.
Galef wrote: 3)Skarbrand is only $130 because he has an extra sprue more than the BT.
Actually both have two sprues. Both models share this SPRUE, the Bloodthirster gets this SPRUE while Skarbrand gets this SPRUE. As for the price difference, ...
Skarbrand was released by pre-2016 GW, which is a pretty significant point imo. I'd expect the 'new' GW to put the LoC at $115 so it matches the Thirster.
Yep, and the price increase is still as confusing today as it was back then.
Actually both have two sprues. Both models share this SPRUE, the Bloodthirster gets this SPRUE while Skarbrand gets this SPRUE. As for the price difference, ...
I've heard several people getting the Skarbrand kit and it having all 3 Sprues, but I have not witnessed this myself.
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Just going by the information on the webstore they should be separate kits. If Skarbrand did come with all three sprues, they could drop the standard Bloodthirster box.
I'd love to see one of them in the style of this new LoC!
The One and Only!!
I really hope they keep to this design for the new one,
originally the KoS was the only Slaanesh Demon to be bulky,
it represents the fact that Slaanesh kept violence as a last gap measure,
rather than a first choice.
Please be it like this picture!
I my opinion, all other representations, either the "alien" look
or the giant deamonette from FW just doesn't make it.
I'd love to see one of them in the style of this new LoC!
I'd be careful what you wish for. This was from the studio design video they did for the 2012 Chaos Daemon codex update.
I think the only things that can be said about any future KOS: is it will have 4 arms, claws, horns, and at least one breast. Beyond that their all supposed to be unique anyway, so...
It's not really a quality control issue anyway, it's a design thing. Looking at the comparison, they'll be similar heights if the BT uses the flames, and the LoC is taller and spindlier.
I'd love to see one of them in the style of this new LoC!
Me too. It is still a great design. The FW model is nice and I would like to be able to build both styles with a future plastic kit. But to be honest the latter is basically an upscaled Daemonette model. I think the original Keeper of Secrets were more interesting and diverse, but that's personal taste and all.
The new Lord of Change - which looks fantastic tbh - kept true to its oldschool design, so did all the recent (2010+) lesser daemons and the Bloodthirster. Maybe a future KoS will return to its original style as well - at least as an optional build.
The Beastmen Gorgon (sp?) makes for a good Keeper of Secrets conversion and I will probably pick one up for such a project. It is much cheaper than the actual greater daemon kits. By using a Glottkin, all four deities can now be built from plastic kits.
I still hope we will see dedicated plastics for the missing elite daemon units like Spawns of Nurgle and Fiends of Slaanesh in the not too far future. Only Tzeentch got theirs so far.
streetsamurai wrote: it would be a quality control issue since fluff suggest that the bt is bigger and beefier than a loc; which wouldnt be represented model wise.
A bit like cadian being bigger than marines is also a quality control issue
Design choices =/= Quality control.
A thing can be designed poorly, but still be a good quality product, or vice versa.
Not only that but I fairly certain there isn't any fluff that says "All Bloodthirsters are larger than all Lords of Change", that's just your own personal headcannon.
And, I might be wrong about this as I don't own the models myself, the current LoC was taller than the previous Bloodthirster, however the 'thirster had larger wings and was more muscled compared to the spindly frame of the LoC.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Not only that but I fairly certain there isn't any fluff that says "All Bloodthirsters are larger than all Lords of Change", that's just your own personal headcannon.
And, I might be wrong about this as I don't own the models myself, the current LoC was taller than the previous Bloodthirster, however the 'thirster had larger wings and was more muscled compared to the spindly frame of the LoC.
Galef wrote: 3)Skarbrand is only $130 because he has an extra sprue more than the BT.
Actually both have two sprues. Both models share this SPRUE, the Bloodthirster gets this SPRUE while Skarbrand gets this SPRUE. As for the price difference, ...
Expected lower sales volume = higher price. Pretty standard approach. Same reason many special character clampacks cost more; the vast majority of customers will only ever buy one.
For a creature supposing to embody a greater form of Change, I think it's just as busy as it should be. Just me though.
Yes but there is a difference between adding additions to the minis to make it pop more, and adding stuff to it for gaks and giggles. I mean why are there Tzeentch symbols attached to the wings? What purpose do they serve other then to extend the amount of time it takes to paint the damn thing?
I mean It's pretty, sure, and could probably use a slightly better colour scheme (maybe a little purple/pink to give it more of a Tzeentch feel). But, like, come on.
Bunch'a people on /tg/ have talked about how it would be better with a more subdued paint scheme. Some people shopped different versions, even one that just darkened everything, and it looks pretty good; much better than the GW paint job.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Bunch'a people on /tg/ have talked about how it would be better with a more subdued paint scheme. Some people shopped different versions, even one that just darkened everything, and it looks pretty good; much better than the GW paint job.
lol
This paintjob is absolutely stellar. I would love it is instead of photoshopping, those folks went ahead and tried to paint it up to this standard but darker. See how they do. Heh.
There are good miniatures, and then there are miniatures that make you *gasp* when you see them. This was neither, this was one "HOLY gak" (ok, the portuguese equivalent) while at work
Love it, love it, love it, love it! I can't wait to see the Kairos Fateweaver version!
Gods, the blue blend in those wing feathers is stunning.
Just going by the information on the webstore they should be separate kits. If Skarbrand did come with all three sprues, they could drop the standard Bloodthirster box.
AFAIK, they haven't dropped the Errant/Paladin Knight box yet, despite the Warden kit coming with everything + an extra sprue. Rhinos are also still sold despite Razorbacks being a Rhino + extra sprue. They should have releases the SB/BT kit together from the beginning
And while the website has gotten much better lately, there are still some head scratchers. Like the Beast of Nurgle being pictured on a 60mm base, yet it is described as being supplied with a 40mm.
I hope once they update each of the Greater Demons they go back and update the Demon Prince models to carry over some of the aesthetic. At a minimum just provide us some stylized wings!
H.B.M.C. wrote: Bunch'a people on /tg/ have talked about how it would be better with a more subdued paint scheme. Some people shopped different versions, even one that just darkened everything, and it looks pretty good; much better than the GW paint job.
Getting Diablo 3 "it's too bright" flashbacks here In all seriousness, it's Tzeentch, and "subdued" is certainly not a word I would associate with it. And the paintjob is stellar.
I think it's perfect as-is. I've never really considered expanding my Chaos army beyond Mortals (with the exception of one Daemon Prince, but he used to be a mortal, so that doesn't count), but damn! I might have to start adding greater daemons!
My guess is that we won't get any until Wed. at the earliest. I really, REALLY hope Blues & Brimstones come in the same box. A box of either by themselves just seems so bland compared to a box of Pinks, which has optionally extra bits. The amount of plastic needed for 10 Pinks + extras is about the same amount as 10 Blues & 10 Brims. So they could keep the price per box of lesser Daemons consistent. That would please my OCD.
I'm on standby to see if Blue & Brims are released. As soon as we get confirmation of those, I'm putting my 2 LoCs (which now look like lowly DPs in comparison) and 30 Horrors on eBay so that I can get 1 LoC, 20 Blues & 20 Brimstones Horrors. I want to replace my Pinks with Blues painted pink. I have never liked that T3 models that are supposed to be "impish" are as big as Space Marines.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Bunch'a people on /tg/ have talked about how it would be better with a more subdued paint scheme. Some people shopped different versions, even one that just darkened everything, and it looks pretty good; much better than the GW paint job.
lol
This paintjob is absolutely stellar. I would love it is instead of photoshopping, those folks went ahead and tried to paint it up to this standard but darker. See how they do. Heh.
Yeah the paint job is stunning. The brightness is a subjective thing but you can't argue with the level of the painting itself really.
Hmm. The new releases for the 21st are just the book and Silver Tower figures sans Tzaangors. They are likely going to be up for release on the 28th then, including the Shaman and Tzaangor Enlightened. That may leave the LOC and Daemon repacks for the 1st week of February.
With any luck that will be it and they will continue right on to Steamhead. Otherwise we are looking at a March release for them.
streetsamurai wrote: it would be a quality control issue since fluff suggest that the bt is bigger and beefier than a loc; which wouldnt be represented model wise.
A bit like cadian being bigger than marines is also a quality control issue
Design choices =/= Quality control.
A thing can be designed poorly, but still be a good quality product, or vice versa.
the design of the LOC was made decades ago, and it's not supposed to be bigger than a BT
streetsamurai wrote: it would be a quality control issue since fluff suggest that the bt is bigger and beefier than a loc; which wouldnt be represented model wise.
A bit like cadian being bigger than marines is also a quality control issue
Design choices =/= Quality control.
A thing can be designed poorly, but still be a good quality product, or vice versa.
the design of the LOC was made decades ago, and it's not supposed to be bigger than a BT
Do you mean LoC's in general? or this particular sculpt ? When you say "decades" one would assume at least 2, so your saying this model was designed in 1996? If your referring to the current sculpt I just find that skeptical. But if you mean the general design of what a LoC is was designed 20-30 years ago I guess that makes sense.
All the Greater Daemons are supposed to be roughly the same imposing size. Individuals may vary depending on how much power they have at the time or how big they "feel" like being, but in general they look like this:
GUO is the shortest, but fattest
BT is the beefiest, but still shorter than a LoC or KoS LoC is tall but spindly
KoS probably varies the most as they can be lean on muscular or tall and sensuous.
So I feel it is appropriate if the LoC is on par with the BT, so long as it looks like it could be taller if stood up straight rather than being slumped over.
streetsamurai wrote: it would be a quality control issue since fluff suggest that the bt is bigger and beefier than a loc; which wouldnt be represented model wise.
A bit like cadian being bigger than marines is also a quality control issue
Design choices =/= Quality control.
A thing can be designed poorly, but still be a good quality product, or vice versa.
the design of the LOC was made decades ago, and it's not supposed to be bigger than a BT
Daemons by their very nature are very mutable, there's no set design for each type of Daemon. They'd come in all sorts of sizes and shapes.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really? This is a real argument that's going on?
streetsamurai wrote: the design of the LOC was made decades ago, and it's not supposed to be bigger than a BT
Says who?
I own an original 'Thirster and an original LoC. They're about the same size.
You are both arguing the same thing. BTs and LoC can be, and often are, the same size and neither are inherently MEANT to be bigger than the other. This is supported by every incarnation of them being roughly the same size.
If this new LoC was dramatically bigger than the plastic BT, it would put a bad taste in our sense of aesthetics.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really? This is a real argument that's going on?
streetsamurai wrote: the design of the LOC was made decades ago, and it's not supposed to be bigger than a BT
Says who?
I own an original 'Thirster and an original LoC. They're about the same size.
You are both arguing the same thing. BTs and LoC can be, and often are, the same size and neither are inherently MEANT to be bigger than the other. This is supported by every incarnation of them being roughly the same size.
If this new LoC was dramatically bigger than the plastic BT, it would put a bad taste in our sense of aesthetics.
In one post you say that the LoC is "not supposed to be bigger than a BT", and then in your next post you're agreeing with a guy saying the opposite? Make up your mind.
Galef wrote: You are both arguing the same thing ... neither are inherently MEANT to be bigger than the other.
In one post you say that the LoC is "not supposed to be bigger than a BT", and then in your next post you're agreeing with a guy saying the opposite? Make up your mind.
Galef wrote: You are both arguing the same thing ... neither are inherently MEANT to be bigger than the other.
That's exactly what I was getting at.
I already made it, but you need to read more carefully. I said that a LOC is not supposed to be bigger than a BT. Which is exactly what Galef said. At the very least, it could be a bit taller, but not much larger and even beefier as the comparaison pic made it look like. Still, as some said, might only be a base issue.
Mantle wrote: Anyone suspect we might see a new codex: daemons as the LoC at the minute is a bit pants for that mighty model.
From what I read on the Warhammer Community post, no. The Lord of Change will get a new warscroll for Age of Sigmar to reflect the new model, but there are currently no plans to alter its rules for 40k.
didnt see this mentioned anywhere, but saw this in the comments on atia's blog - someone asked her how different Fatewaever is to the LoC:
Lady Atia Mod Irondoors • a day ago
He has two heads (duh!), a staff with a book and a casting hand. Not as much different as Skarbrand and a core Bloodthirster, but different enough imo
nothing unexpected (compared to the existing model), but nice to have confirmation anyway
While the model is cool, I'd find it a lot better if he carried his staff with 2 hands instead of the stupid little sword (though it should be a fairly easy conversion to do). I also hope he isn't as big as the size comparison with the BT makes him out to be. Not only would I find it weird if it was the case, but also because I feel the BT is the maximum size a miniature can be (one of the reasons why I dislike Magnus)
Mr. CyberPunk wrote: While the model is cool, I'd find it a lot better if he carried his staff with 2 hands instead of the stupid little sword (though it should be a fairly easy conversion to do). I also hope he isn't as big as the size comparison with the BT makes him out to be. Not only would I find it weird if it was the case, but also because I feel the BT is the maximum size a miniature can be (one of the reasons why I dislike Magnus)
I think this is one of the best models and paint jobs ever done by GW and is making me want to buy this LoC even though I don't have any intention of making a chaos army in my life.
This model puts a lot of the FW stuff to shame too in my opinion and sets the bar extremely high for GW. I thought nothing would get cooler than Saint Celestine this year for big cool model releases and was proven wrong.
Mr. CyberPunk wrote: While the model is cool, I'd find it a lot better if he carried his staff with 2 hands instead of the stupid little sword (though it should be a fairly easy conversion to do). I also hope he isn't as big as the size comparison with the BT makes him out to be. Not only would I find it weird if it was the case, but also because I feel the BT is the maximum size a miniature can be (one of the reasons why I dislike Magnus)
? Have you seen a titan?
I should have said '' I feel the BT is the maximum size for an organic (or more appropriately, a non-vehicle) miniature''. I'm fine with a titan (and others huge war machines) being a little bit bigger, and of course there will be some exceptions here and there, but overall, bigger than that and they start looking like kids toy to me.
Mr. CyberPunk wrote: While the model is cool, I'd find it a lot better if he carried his staff with 2 hands instead of the stupid little sword (though it should be a fairly easy conversion to do). I also hope he isn't as big as the size comparison with the BT makes him out to be. Not only would I find it weird if it was the case, but also because I feel the BT is the maximum size a miniature can be (one of the reasons why I dislike Magnus)
? Have you seen a titan?
Which are ridiculously sized. Maybe accurate scalewise but makes gaming hard.
Problem with the constantly increasing size is that board sizes don't keep up. Same amount of models take up bigger % of board than they did 10 years ago. This is only made worse by constant increase in model size.
This means reduced room to manouver which in turn leads to more boring and less tactical games unless you up the board size. I can barely fit 6'x4' to my room. Any bigger than that is hopeless. So either I get less tactical games or I decrease game size dramatically. This keeps up and even kill team is too large!
Nvs wrote:I hope once they update each of the Greater Demons they go back and update the Demon Prince models to carry over some of the aesthetic. At a minimum just provide us some stylized wings!
Yes! Imagine a spruce in box or an upgrade with god-specific wings and/or weapons. I'd pay for that.
Chopxsticks wrote:
the design of the LOC was made decades ago, and it's not supposed to be bigger than a BT
Do you mean LoC's in general? or this particular sculpt ? When you say "decades" one would assume at least 2, so your saying this model was designed in 1996? If your referring to the current sculpt I just find that skeptical. But if you mean the general design of what a LoC is was designed 20-30 years ago I guess that makes sense.
The Dark Crystal was released in 1982.
I think I heard mention of an Arcanites starter box and it's contents. Is my Tzeentch addled brain playing tricks on me or is there something?
Gamgee wrote:I think this is one of the best models and paint jobs ever done by GW and is making me want to buy this LoC even though I don't have any intention of making a chaos army in my life.
This model puts a lot of the FW stuff to shame too in my opinion and sets the bar extremely high for GW. I thought nothing would get cooler than Saint Celestine this year for big cool model releases and was proven wrong.
I agree, I want one and don't have a Chaos army either.
As for putting FW to shame, it better for the prices they have been charging.
I always assumed the size of all the greater daemons to be different variations of massive !
One type being bigger than another is neither here nor there to me, although I could see why they would be a pain on the gaming table, just like titans they seem more appropriate for epic scale games rather that 40k.
Amazing. So much better than Magnus. I still don't like the way GW does plastic feathers without a lot of texture (Kingdom Death e.g. has MUCH better done ones), but the pose, build (just the right amount of skinny-fat naked birdyness ), paintjob, all excellent.
I would like the model even more if it was shrunken by a third or so, though, as I simply enjoy MINIatures more and I dislike the trend towards taller minis
And blast it, GW, add a few more Brimstone Horrors to that base. Two of them isn't much of a swarm, is it. Look at Nurglings and how cute the living tide of tiny fatties is in comparison.
That new lord of change is the kinda model that makes me want to start a whole new army around it.. so hard to resist, but I know I'd end up just buying a bunch of stuff, just paint a handful, and then eBay it all 3 yeas later (as usual) :(
Though.. he would look nice painted up with the tzeentchy goodies from silver tower. Maybe I'd paint them all. Maybe...
I have never been a Chaos player but the lure of those Thousand Sons models was just too much to resist. I'm probably going to have to get Magnus, a LoC, and a bunch of Tzangors as well now.
Never thought id say this, but I am glad KD:M cleared out my budget for the next while. Literally the only way I am gonna avoid adding this beauty to my Chaos army.
Hbbyaddict wrote: Never thought id say this, but I am glad KD:M cleared out my budget for the next while. Literally the only way I am gonna avoid adding this beauty to my Chaos army.
KD:M cleaned me out too, but then I started selling out a lot of the GW stuff I don't use anymore to cover the cost... and did it so succesfully I might be able to buy mr Big Bird anyway. Oh, to be an addict.
Just pre-preordered Disciples of Tzeentch (ice storms this weekend, plus it's my father's b-day, so I wouldn't be able to make it to my FLGS to preorder then). Kind of sucks that I have to wait nearly two weeks to get my book, though.
Cephalobeard wrote: Atia said we're getting more Daemon models. I really hope we get new Princes. We needed that about as much as new Lords.
Why? Princes are great. And you can mix plenty of stuff in with them. Or create your own. Ogroid from ST mixed with any feathered wings makes for a great DPoT.
Did we ever manage an image of the kairos heads that are allegedly included in the box? Cause I definitely want to run one as kairos....although dang that omniscient oracles formation....SUCH a good excuse to need two of those boxes!
IMO the daemon price kit is good; while the options are limited the model is assembled in such a way that encourages conversion. However, its an old kit and that definitely shows. Its getting to the point where converting with bits from more recent kits contrasts with the lesser detail enough to be distracting.
NinthMusketeer wrote: IMO the daemon price kit is good; while the options are limited the model is assembled in such a way that encourages conversion. However, its an old kit and that definitely shows. Its getting to the point where converting with bits from more recent kits contrasts with the lesser detail enough to be distracting.
Also End Times and Sigmar has given us quite a few new models that make good daemon princes for various powers- Ogre Thaumtage, Drycha, Thanquil/Bonerippa, Morbidex, Gorgon/Cygor, Morghasts, others.
NinthMusketeer wrote: IMO the daemon price kit is good; while the options are limited the model is assembled in such a way that encourages conversion. However, its an old kit and that definitely shows. Its getting to the point where converting with bits from more recent kits contrasts with the lesser detail enough to be distracting.
If I recalled, it was also a kit that GW had made, but then sat on it for a long time before releasing it. It looked abit dated compared to other kits that came out around the same time if I recall.
NinthMusketeer wrote: IMO the daemon price kit is good; while the options are limited the model is assembled in such a way that encourages conversion. However, its an old kit and that definitely shows. Its getting to the point where converting with bits from more recent kits contrasts with the lesser detail enough to be distracting.
If I recalled, it was also a kit that GW had made, but then sat on it for a long time before releasing it. It looked abit dated compared to other kits that came out around the same time if I recall.
Have we gotten any rumors about a rules change for the LoC?
With the size increase, if it has the same stats that would be... A little odd, at least.
No rumours, but information straight from the horse's mouth. GW has stated that the Lord of Change will receive an updated warscroll for Age of Sigmar, but its rules for 40K will be unchanged.
Have we gotten any rumors about a rules change for the LoC?
With the size increase, if it has the same stats that would be... A little odd, at least.
The post on warhammer community said there will be an updated warscroll, so yes. I wonder if they will need Kairic somewhat.
Looking the rumourmill stuff, it seems plausible that Aos will have Tzeentch, Duardin, shadowkin and devoted of Sigmar this year. Throw in a new death faction and you have a very good year for AoS.
The Thirster's rules didn't change when it got a new model. Sure it got 2 new profiles, but the statline itself stayed exactly the same, only the wargear & special rules changed. No beefing it up to represent the new big model
Yeah so they just finished the interview with Nick Horth on warhammer tv who is writing this book. He goes into some of the finer details of the book.
Yeah so he explains further that a free guild captain see's something he should not have seen and only the witch hunter and his companion who is a duardin is helping him. He goes on to explain this book will see how normal people view all the craziness but on the ground level things are still similar yet not. Like there is a shard of the world that was in the sea next to the city that is mined as currency to be used to glimpse in the future.
Also the scourge privateers control the docks and they are not nice people going by Nick's description of them twitch chat called them pretty much Aelven mafia well they sound like it. The witch hunter is from the order of ayzr created by sigmar to destroy corruption in the new cities but they are stretched to the absolute limit with all the new people coming into the cities.
They also look at the divide between those who came from ayzr who are taking all the important jobs and the tribes nomands and people who survived the age of chaos coming into the cities it seems they live in the more slum like area. Also many of the people of ayzr view these people coming in corrupted by chaos because they wonder how they survived with the age of chaos hanging over them.
Also we get to see how a normal human views a stormcast of course some are heroic and mingle with the populace but the ones in the city are the knight excelsior who hate everything to do with chaos and of course if they get a hint they will carry out a purge and purges happened in the past. Hence why the witch hunter's job is so important.
One last thing sigmar's hope was to have all three main races living in the cities together of course certain armies are seperate and doing their own thing even if they are allies but largely the cities are a mixed population perhaps with one main group. Like the city on the novel is mainly a free guild city while let's say the one in the realm of life has a larger aelf population since it was mainly built by the phoenix temple. I quite like this since it makes it dynamic.
Now people want a new mordheim or AOSRPG the book sounds pretty awesome.
Lord Kragan wrote: Wait, several generations? God-damn, talk about moving the timeline.
Not several but the one main characters parents were one of the settlers that came to the cities and they were part of the group that survived the age of chaos in ghur instead of being in ayzr.
Hm, will moving the timeline forward affect mortal characters do you think? Or do you think it'll be one of those things where "the model and rules represents the character at X time, and is not analogous with the story"?
Actually, are there any mortal heroes left? Do Stormcast age or is that removed in reforging? What about Orruks, Gordrakk being the only named one I can think of? I guess most of the other ones are gone or made immortal.
I suppose there's Sayl but he sorta doesn't count here.
I'd like to know what has been going on in the other Realms during all this time. Can't wait for the Tzeentch BT since I assume their fluff will take us up to the 'present' time in Sigmar. The timeline blurbs should be interesting; the loads of fancy circles with the random fluff tidbits about the faction.
Sylvaneth guard the humans who have settled? Don't think they will like the new settlers cutting down their trees for firewood.
How goes the search for Slaanesh?
How have the years taken its toll on the reforged Stormcast, are some going insane? As it was said a while back some have been reforged so much they just wait for the next battle.
Surely Nagash has been planning something....
Interesting that the timeline has jumped quite a bit forward. I thought it would be maybe 50 odd years after War for Life.
unmercifulconker wrote: I'd like to know what has been going on in the other Realms during all this time. Can't wait for the Tzeentch BT since I assume their fluff will take us up to the 'present' time in Sigmar. The timeline blurbs should be interesting; the loads of fancy circles with the random fluff tidbits about the faction.
Sylvaneth guard the humans who have settled? Don't think they will like the new settlers cutting down their trees for firewood.
How goes the search for Slaanesh?
How have the years taken its toll on the reforged Stormcast, are some going insane? As it was said a while back some have been reforged so much they just wait for the next battle.
Surely Nagash has been planning something....
Interesting that the timeline has jumped quite a bit forward. I thought it would be maybe 50 odd years after War for Life.
Sylvaneth don't hang around the cities they just live in the forests the everqueen did create a city but demanded those who decide to live there that whenever a threat to the forest arises they will defend it. Also GW have said it's not been long enough to the point it's far in the future just to the point where people have built cities and such and considering they have dwarfs and magic it should not take TOO long at all.
Well if the main characters parents came to the city when it was first raised were only talking lime 50-60 years which seems a reasonable jump for things to start happening.
The Lord of Change is marked as 'Last Chance to Buy' on the U.K. site and has disappeared from the U.S. site, while Kairos Fateweaver is listed as 'Sold Out' on the U.S. site.
Something to keep in mind is the realmgate wars themselves took decades; these events are not happening over a year or two. Also yes, Stormcast are immortal and do not age. And none of the campaign characters I'm aware of are bound by petty things like mortality.
Hulksmash wrote: Well if the main characters parents came to the city when it was first raised were only talking lime 50-60 years which seems a reasonable jump for things to start happening.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Maybe put that in the 40K rumour thread, and not the AoS one then.
It also talks about DoT. So yeah. When is GW gonna give us more of those tasty Tzeentch leaks anyway?
Maybe tomorrow? I read something about Duncan doing his 100th painting video and there is suppose to be teaser or something in there that will reveal an upcoming release. I could be wrong if what I read is wrong.
shinros wrote: Yeah so they just finished the interview with Nick Horth on warhammer tv who is writing this book. He goes into some of the finer details of the book.
Yeah so he explains further that a free guild captain see's something he should not have seen and only the witch hunter and his companion who is a duardin is helping him. He goes on to explain this book will see how normal people view all the craziness but on the ground level things are still similar yet not. Like there is a shard of the world that was in the sea next to the city that is mined as currency to be used to glimpse in the future.
Also the scourge privateers control the docks and they are not nice people going by Nick's description of them twitch chat called them pretty much Aelven mafia well they sound like it. The witch hunter is from the order of ayzr created by sigmar to destroy corruption in the new cities but they are stretched to the absolute limit with all the new people coming into the cities.
They also look at the divide between those who came from ayzr who are taking all the important jobs and the tribes nomands and people who survived the age of chaos coming into the cities it seems they live in the more slum like area. Also many of the people of ayzr view these people coming in corrupted by chaos because they wonder how they survived with the age of chaos hanging over them.
Also we get to see how a normal human views a stormcast of course some are heroic and mingle with the populace but the ones in the city are the knight excelsior who hate everything to do with chaos and of course if they get a hint they will carry out a purge and purges happened in the past. Hence why the witch hunter's job is so important.
One last thing sigmar's hope was to have all three main races living in the cities together of course certain armies are seperate and doing their own thing even if they are allies but largely the cities are a mixed population perhaps with one main group. Like the city on the novel is mainly a free guild city while let's say the one in the realm of life has a larger aelf population since it was mainly built by the phoenix temple. I quite like this since it makes it dynamic.
Now people want a new mordheim or AOSRPG the book sounds pretty awesome.
I wanted it already but damn, that sounds awesome.
It's adding in the ground level graininess that really helped flesh out warhammer fantasy back in the old editions.
It'll hopefully give some inspiration for the regiments of renown warbands i'm building.
Something interesting that has popped up in war of sigmar's comments is this:
So, maybe the disparate Rumor Mill images are more connected than we thought? Just like the combined Tzeentch book soon to be coming, could we be looking at a Battletome: Free Cities? This would give us an expansion of Devoted, Phoenix Temple, and Ironweld Arsenal (which some people have suggested may be the actual name for the Steamhead Dwarves, just as Fyreslayers were the actual name of Red Slayers). This would make sense of the pieces that we have thus far and flesh out three subfactions that each need just a little bit of help. They don't share any common keywords, but that could be remedied though either the addition of a new keyword (Free Cities), or they stay as something independent given that their cities are largely independent. Just something to think about.
Lord Kragan wrote: Something interesting that has popped up in war of sigmar's comments is this:
So, maybe the disparate Rumor Mill images are more connected than we thought? Just like the combined Tzeentch book soon to be coming, could we be looking at a Battletome: Free Cities? This would give us an expansion of Devoted, Phoenix Temple, and Ironweld Arsenal (which some people have suggested may be the actual name for the Steamhead Dwarves, just as Fyreslayers were the actual name of Red Slayers). This would make sense of the pieces that we have thus far and flesh out three subfactions that each need just a little bit of help. They don't share any common keywords, but that could be remedied though either the addition of a new keyword (Free Cities), or they stay as something independent given that their cities are largely independent. Just something to think about.
Your thoughts??
I could see it happening I personally think the disciples of tzeentch format is pretty great, if sylvaneth get updated again I could see them folding wanderer's into them.
I just saw the Island of Blood set was OUT OF STOCK, not temporarily out.
Looking forward to reading City of Secrets.
My hope has been that the Realm Gate wars was the opening scene into an evolving story that would hopefully someday bring us to a setting more familiar to the Old World, but more open ended.... City looks to be going that way.
It's pretty nuts. If you get two and split them with someone who wants the other force, you're essentially getting the best value starter set on the market. I was looking at doing that for High Elves, personally.
An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
gak gets sold out and restocked all the time, and every time people think it heralds some new release.
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
gak gets sold out and restocked all the time, and every time people think it heralds some new release.
Again, it is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. It is not 'Temporarily Unavailable'.
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
I'm guessing repack? Maybe the entire daemon range will eventually go to the white boxes like this:
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
I'm guessing repack? Maybe the entire daemon range will eventually go to the white boxes like this:
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
I'm guessing repack? Maybe the entire daemon range will eventually go to the white boxes like this:
Seems like the entire instore Khorne range got the treatment during the Khorne focused run of AoS.
Probably this. I just bought one from my LGS and it still came with the rectangle base, which is what I will be using because that 120x92mm Flyer base is too big. Maybe they'll put an appropriate sized oval base in the repack similar to what they did with 'Crusher? Maybe the 90x52mm oval?
Ghaz wrote: An interesting development on the UK online store. The Burning Chariot of Tzeentch is 'Sold Out' and no longer available. A repack or a new sculpt? Hmm...
I'm guessing repack? Maybe the entire daemon range will eventually go to the white boxes like this:
Seems like the entire instore Khorne range got the treatment during the Khorne focused run of AoS.
Maybe. If so, let's see if there is a price increase/decrease.
There were no price hikes on the Khorne repackaging. Though there were some decreases due to increasing model count. Think Bloodcrushers were the only ones.
*edit* also looks like Kairos now has the "No Longer Available" tag as well.
Additional note: the categories for Daemons of Tzeentch and Tzeentch Arcanites are not longer listed under Grand Alliance Chaos. They've been replaced with Disciples of Tzeentch.
Was just reading the Kairic Acolytes warscroll. They're missile troops as well as the Tzaangor Skyfires
EDIT: Looks like the $25 price for the battletome was incorrect. On the NZ site it is $65, one dollar more than the Burning Chariot. So I'll say it will be about $40 US and £25 UK.
Still hoping to see some heavily-armored units for the Arcanites, but damn do those Acolytes look tempting!
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Ghaz wrote: Was just reading the Kairic Acolytes warscroll. They're missile troops as well as the Tzaangor Skyfires
EDIT: Looks like the $25 price for the battletome was incorrect. On the NZ site it is $65, one dollar more than the Burning Chariot. So I'll say it will be about $40 US and £25 UK.
The price leaks on BoLS listed the tome as $35 US
Automatically Appended Next Post: And also, this is a new Gaunt Summoner warscroll. It looks like it has the same stats as the two we've seen previously, but doesn't have the rules for the familiars from Silver Tower or the disc from the other model. I was wondering how they would handle this guy.
EnTyme wrote: Still hoping to see some heavily-armored units for the Arcanites, but damn do those Acolytes look tempting!
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Ghaz wrote: Was just reading the Kairic Acolytes warscroll. They're missile troops as well as the Tzaangor Skyfires
EDIT: Looks like the $25 price for the battletome was incorrect. On the NZ site it is $65, one dollar more than the Burning Chariot. So I'll say it will be about $40 US and £25 UK.
The price leaks on BoLS listed the tome as $35 US
I was going by what was previously mentioned in this thread. We'll know for sure tomorrow.
EnTyme wrote: The Tzeentch dice look cool, but they look like they will be impossible to read.
From a distance, sure, but not a big deal if you're just using them for Fate dice. The Skull for 1 and Tzeentch symbol for 6 are easy enough, which is nice.
These dice are interesting- nice use of the Silver Tower mechanic...
This large dice cube contains 18 16mm dice. They feature 2 different designs, dark blue with light blue markings, and dark blue with gold markings - 9 of each design are supplied (the keen-eyed will notice that 9 is the number of Tzeentch).
Also included in this set is a plastic tray with spaces to hold 9 dice. In games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar any army with the Tzeentch allegiance has the Masters of Destiny ability allowing them to roll 9 dice at the start of the game and set them aside for later use. This pool of Destiny Dice can then be used throughout the game to alter your fate. The tray included with this dice set allows you a specific area to place your Destiny Dice during your games.
angelofvengeance wrote: These dice are interesting- nice use of the Silver Tower mechanic...
This large dice cube contains 18 16mm dice. They feature 2 different designs, dark blue with light blue markings, and dark blue with gold markings - 9 of each design are supplied (the keen-eyed will notice that 9 is the number of Tzeentch).
Also included in this set is a plastic tray with spaces to hold 9 dice. In games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar any army with the Tzeentch allegiance has the Masters of Destiny ability allowing them to roll 9 dice at the start of the game and set them aside for later use. This pool of Destiny Dice can then be used throughout the game to alter your fate. The tray included with this dice set allows you a specific area to place your Destiny Dice during your games.
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Helloo magic cards:
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And some nice suggestions for paint schemes..
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They definitely work better as destiny dice. I can just hear myself trying to use them on regular rolls, though. "The feth did I just roll?"
It was rumored that they were resculpting the Burning Chariot? That seems really odd. They should just rebox it and throw in an extra sprue with that exalted flamer on it.
Chopxsticks wrote: It was rumored that they were resculpting the Burning Chariot? That seems really odd. They should just rebox it and throw in an extra sprue with that exalted flamer on it.
The only fact we know about the Burning Chariot is that it is marked as 'Sold Out' and is no longer available on either the UK or French web stores. It could be for either reason or for some other reason entirely.
Chopxsticks wrote: It was rumored that they were resculpting the Burning Chariot? That seems really odd. They should just rebox it and throw in an extra sprue with that exalted flamer on it.
Wait. The Exalted Flamer, its already in the chariot box. Was another there one released separately?
Hopefully they are repacking the burning chariot kit to exclude the 100x50 rectangular base and include a base for the exalted flamer on foot.
I would not be surprised (speculation not rumour) if a spruce was added to have a new/tzaangor hero on the chariot too.
It's weird none of the Kairic acolytes have the bird feet from the silver tower boxed set, which I preferred the look of. Their feet look even stranger now...which is quite something. I kind of wish they looked more like the original concept idea for them from john blanche. Less muscled and ripped and more lithe and slim and weird, some with three arms etc. I'm not too keen on the overly muscled look, tzeentch always struck me as being more slender in contrast to the bulk of khorne and nurgle.
Thargrim wrote: It's weird none of the Kairic acolytes have the bird feet from the silver tower boxed set, which I preferred the look of. Their feet look even stranger now...which is quite something. I kind of wish they looked more like the original concept idea for them from john blanche. Less muscled and ripped and more lithe and slim and weird, some with three arms etc. I'm not too keen on the overly muscled look, tzeentch always struck me as being more slender in contrast to the bulk of khorne and nurgle.
The only difference in the feet between the Silver Tower and Disciples of Tzeentch Kairic Acolytes that I can see is how they're painted. Are you thinking of the Tzaangors?
Thargrim wrote: It's weird none of the Kairic acolytes have the bird feet from the silver tower boxed set, which I preferred the look of. Their feet look even stranger now...which is quite something. I kind of wish they looked more like the original concept idea for them from john blanche. Less muscled and ripped and more lithe and slim and weird, some with three arms etc. I'm not too keen on the overly muscled look, tzeentch always struck me as being more slender in contrast to the bulk of khorne and nurgle.
The only difference in the feet between the Silver Tower and Disciples of Tzeentch Kairic Acolytes that I can see is how they're painted. Are you thinking of the Tzaangors?
On the silver tower ones their middle toe is a claw, their toes are sharper and pointy whereas the new acolytes have regular human feet.
I totally just bought new dice (bigger ones that that are the same as my existing cube, and blue with gold pips for my Tzeentch army), but I MUST have those new Tzeentch dice. One can never have TOO many dice, right?
[Edit]: true though that he does change form as well. Or maybe it's just that no one can comprehend it for long..
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Unfortunately I don't have any data because I'm a cheapo...
I'll just have to ask a family member to try and order them for me.
Ah, a worshipper of Tzeentch's cousin, the Lord of can anyone spare some change.
Really love everything I'm hearing about the upcoming novel. The fact they're sticking with dark elves (exiles) as the criminal underground of Order who are responsible for cult activities in Sigmar's "safe" cities and whose pirating and smuggling is the reason the proud knight orders like the Order Draconis were able to get mounts while hiding in Azyrheim during the age of chaos is really icing on the cake.
Too bad that wasn't around during the mmo days, being killed in a secure city by beautiful elf cultist> being killed by Skaven hiding in a barrel by the Altdorf docks.
I would really like to see a merged Khorne and Nurgle display soon, I mean technically Slaaneshi are already on the same display after all.
But what I would really love is to make a Disciples Battletome for each other Chaos God: Khornate, Nurglesque, Slaaneshi and Skaven on one same book., everyone with their own artifacts, traits and abilities.
Later on they could expand this to every Order Faction that got separated with the AoS transition, one for Aelves, one for Duardins and one for Humans.
They could also do this with some Death factions that are just too small to play right now.
Now, I would say you to consider that that, while the Tzeentchian chariots are sold out on UK and rest of the world, they are available on NZ, and nowhere to be found on the Aus site, so yeah, hold on.
I would love to see an eventual SC! with Tzeentchian daemons; one pinkies unit, one flamers unit, one screamers unit and one chariot. It might be released on few months.
I would like to see if they could also release an Arcanites SC!, using one unit of every Tzaangor, but it's better to wait for the actual rules before take any guesses.
Someone in the comments got a bigger picture on war of sigmar, now I wonder is this what tzeentch actually looks like? If it IS tzeentch bloody hell.
From the description and lots of past fluff I've read, I don't think Tzeentch HAS a definite form. He's like Gozer: Whatever he wants to be.
Tzeentch has traditionally been described most often as a cloud. The symbol of Tzeentch is actually a depiction of the God. But yes, like any God or Daemon he can assume any form.
Hans Chung-Otterson wrote:Those dice are suuuper cool-looking and suuuper nonfunctional for normal rolling. You can't win 'em all, I guess!
Why are they not functional? Took me a minute or so and it's perfectly functional. Just need to get use to it for a few seconds.
What is so hard to read dots? After all isn't that how we read dice in the first place? They are just in a new place instead of classic way. And the symbol is a 6 or did GW make the skull the six?
I needed this thing yesterday.
And a week ago.
And a month ago.
And... well back when I first started Daemons tbh (so 4 years ago give or take 6 or so months).
ImAGeek wrote: There's a plastic Changeling coming too according to Atia on her blog. Hope the model doesn't change too much because I love the Changeling model.
He changes quite a bit (imo). I would describe him (same as with Kairos btw) as "war aspect". He's flying on a cloud of magic (you know, the same thing they use for the discs now), and has a "come at me" pose. He also looks quite more humanoid, not as much as "giggles, I'm the sneeky whirly changeling giggles" anymore. It's an awesome model, but I prefer my old classic Changeling for the character.
shinros wrote: Right on the second page of the city of secrets book and I love it sooooo much.
I want a synopsis by today at 15:40 PM. CHOP CHOP.
I don't know if I can finish it by then.
Still I should have it up perhaps by sunday or monday, I do have to say the book is pretty good so far it's like a blend of high and gritty low fantasy it's pretty awesome.
He changes quite a bit (imo). I would describe him (same as with Kairos btw) as "war aspect". He's flying on a cloud of magic (you know, the same thing they use for the discs now), and has a "come at me" pose. He also looks quite more humanoid, not as much as "giggles, I'm the sneeky whirly changeling giggles" anymore. It's an awesome model, but I prefer my old classic Changeling for the character.
is that a new flamer/model next to the blue flamers? ... carries some weird orange mask with red lines, that doesn't match with the greenish flames
He changes quite a bit (imo). I would describe him (same as with Kairos btw) as "war aspect". He's flying on a cloud of magic (you know, the same thing they use for the discs now), and has a "come at me" pose. He also looks quite more humanoid, not as much as "giggles, I'm the sneeky whirly changeling giggles" anymore. It's an awesome model, but I prefer my old classic Changeling for the character.
is that a new flamer/model next to the blue flamers? ... carries some weird orange mask with red lines, that doesn't match with the greenish flames
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I believe that's actually a part of the building, the purple flamers themselves are the current kit with a different paintjob (they've appeared in previous publication before, such as the 40k Curse of the Wulfen book)
I believe that's actually a part of the building, the purple flamers themselves are the current kit with a different paintjob (they've appeared in previous publication before, such as the 40k Curse of the Wulfen book)
I highlighted the section just in case ... the orange object doesn't fit with the environment nor with the paintjob, and has that weird mask shape with the red lines
I believe that's actually a part of the building, the purple flamers themselves are the current kit with a different paintjob (they've appeared in previous publication before, such as the 40k Curse of the Wulfen book)
I highlighted the section just in case ... the orange object doesn't fit with the environment nor with the paintjob, and has that weird mask shape with the red lines
I concur with Matt that it is most likely part of the building...
Looking at it more closely there's actually a blue horror with an outstretched arm leading into it, so it's probably a fireball that just happens to be facing the camera head on.
Can't believe nobody pointed this out yet, but the blue horror with a beak is a new sculpt!! The other blues look similar enough to chariot/ST blues...but that beaky one is definitely new!!
timetowaste85 wrote: Can't believe nobody pointed this out yet, but the blue horror with a beak is a new sculpt!! The other blues look similar enough to chariot/ST blues...but that beaky one is definitely new!!
That is why I posted the picture!!! The blue and brimstone horrors are all new.
The acolytes manage to look like a better base for Khorne mortals and a great base for Slaanesh mortals *and* they`re cheaper than the COPD Bloodreavers? Not bad.
And that LoC. Mhh.
The horror, both blue and brim, don't excite me that much, though. I would have really liked a mini-swar of Brimstones per base - or at least fuller, less 2D flame trails around them to make the base look fuller. The blues don't looks as awesome as the standard set by the ST pink horror.
timetowaste85 wrote: Can't believe nobody pointed this out yet, but the blue horror with a beak is a new sculpt!! The other blues look similar enough to chariot/ST blues...but that beaky one is definitely new!!
That is why I posted the picture!!! The blue and brimstone horrors are all new.
Whoops!! I caught the pic, and not the preamble. That'll teach me to post at 6am!!
The pictures are updated in the app, but the rules haven't (the acolytes don't have the Vulcharc, for example), and there's no Disciples option in the drop-down.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: The pictures are updated in the app, but the rules haven't (the acolytes don't have the Vulcharc, for example), and there's no Disciples option in the drop-down.
Actually if you clear your cache then you'll find that the acolytes have been updated. And they've been point ted if you have the ghb on the app. They are 140 for 10 and battleline.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: The pictures are updated in the app, but the rules haven't (the acolytes don't have the Vulcharc, for example), and there's no Disciples option in the drop-down.
Actually if you clear your cache then you'll find that the acolytes have been updated. And they've been point ted if you have the ghb on the app. They are 140 for 10 and battleline.
What else is Battleline for Disciples of Tzeentch?
Tzaangor are straight battleline just like acolytes. They're 180pts for 10 and have some awesome rules. Enlightened are 140 for 3 and seem like a solid choice. Pity that the arrow guys aren't up yet :(
I can't believe the dice, cards and even the battletome itself are already sold out! This is the one time I'm a bit miffed at the huge surge in popularity for AoS...
Mymearan wrote: I can't believe the dice, cards and even the battletome itself are already sold out! This is the one time I'm a bit miffed at the huge surge in popularity for AoS...
The cards were supposed to be only available by buying the Battletome. They were auto-added, while supplies lasted.
Mymearan wrote: I can't believe the dice, cards and even the battletome itself are already sold out! This is the one time I'm a bit miffed at the huge surge in popularity for AoS...
Why are you miffed that a product is doing well? Edit: Oh, possibly because it left people unable to buy?
As for the dice, I think a lot of the sales are either dice collectors or people who want to sell them on ebay.
The Battletome sounds like a solid book, so I'm not surprised that sold so well.
Im really happy its doing well, the aos scene here is blowing up, its at least equal with our 40k players at the moment (and im not in what is traditionally a huge gaming town) People are hungry for more content.
The link to the article was changed after it was updated with info about using the new Lord of Change in 
. Also who says they can't be friends? Or if the fluff says they can't be friends, they are not working together for the battle, but once the battle is finished they will turn on each other?
That is stunning, just wow 
