That's not the same. GW has not been telling us that plastic Sisters are possible for a decade, they have been saying that there were modelling issues in the way. It's only recently that they've said that they have the technology to actually make plastic SoBs.

It was around the Dark Eldar release AFAIK, that Jes talked about plastic sister miniatures, so around end 2010.

 d-usa wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
OK, all I have is an I Phone, what do I need to download the new codex? Break it down for me, cause I clueless when it comes to technology.

iPhone can't do iBooks.

If it gets released as an .epub file though (which I think the rumors are saying) you should be able to add it via iTunes.

I've got both Eldar and Space Marines on my iPhone, and I got them thru the bookstore, not iTunes...

 SisterSydney wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
OK, all I have is an I Phone, what do I need to download the new codex? Break it down for me, cause I clueless when it comes to technology.

iPhone can't do iBooks.

If it gets released as an .epub file though (which I think the rumors are saying) you should be able to add it via iTunes.

I've got both Eldar and Space Marines on my iPhone, and I got them thru the bookstore, not iTunes...

Book store?

 MWHistorian wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
OK, all I have is an I Phone, what do I need to download the new codex? Break it down for me, cause I clueless when it comes to technology.

iPhone can't do iBooks.

If it gets released as an .epub file though (which I think the rumors are saying) you should be able to add it via iTunes.

I've got both Eldar and Space Marines on my iPhone, and I got them thru the bookstore, not iTunes...

Book store?

Black Library.

No, not Black Library, there's a "iBooks" ap on newer iPhones with a "store" button that lets you buy eBooks. It's distinct from the iTunes store. Not sure if the selection is more limited than proper eBooks or if these are in fact actual eBooks.

Games Workshop: Digital Editions wrote: "Hey Charles, We'll be releasing the codex later in the month. Stay posted to this page for updates. - Eddie

Guess I'll have to wait a bit to build my immolator, then (just in case.)

Should prove worth the wait, hopefully.

Hoitash wrote:
Guess I'll have to wait a bit to build my immolator, then (just in case.)

Should prove worth the wait, hopefully.

You can still do the chassis though as it makes a good Rhino as well, you'll just need to hold off on doing the turret section at most.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Hoitash wrote:
Guess I'll have to wait a bit to build my immolator, then (just in case.)

Should prove worth the wait, hopefully.

You can still do the chassis though as it makes a good Rhino as well, you'll just need to hold off on doing the turret section at most.

Not even that. The Immolator is a righteously modular kit.

Assemble chassis plus top plate. Check.
Assemble Turret, do not glue turret to chassis. Do not glue guns onto turret.
Assemble cupola with storm bolter. Do not glue cupola to chassis.
Win.

The guns have such a great connection point and the turret swap is good so you never even have to worry about assembling the wrong loadout unless you get glue happy.

Sadly you only get one of the clear bubble window bits per kit though. D:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Sadly you only get one of the clear bubble window bits per kit though. D:

Why do you need two? For the cupola? I never put mine on the cupola, but you could simply not glue that part on if you wanted to.

I used my cupola for the immolator turret and just have helmeted heads for the rhino stormbolter to provide protection.

 Shandara wrote:
I used my cupola for the immolator turret and just have helmeted heads for the rhino stormbolter to provide protection.

Exactly this.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Sadly you only get one of the clear bubble window bits per kit though. D:

That part is quite easy to use with both parts that it goes into, I've found. If you just put it in and twist, it'll stay in pretty firmly. So you can use it with the Rhino and the Immolator interchangeably.

Bye the way... I really look forward to building a SoB Army with the Raging Heroes Minuatures (2015...).
I'm looking for a .. WW2 themed soviet SoB army. Does anyone have a project/pictures or anything?

I feel like the soviet green, dirt and battle damage would be a nice alternative to the glittering fancyness of gold and silver.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Hoitash wrote:
Guess I'll have to wait a bit to build my immolator, then (just in case.)

Should prove worth the wait, hopefully.

You can still do the chassis though as it makes a good Rhino as well, you'll just need to hold off on doing the turret section at most.

Not even that. The Immolator is a righteously modular kit.

Assemble chassis plus top plate. Check.
Assemble Turret, do not glue turret to chassis. Do not glue guns onto turret.
Assemble cupola with storm bolter. Do not glue cupola to chassis.
Win.

The guns have such a great connection point and the turret swap is good so you never even have to worry about assembling the wrong loadout unless you get glue happy.

Cool, thanks for the info !

RoninXiC wrote:
Bye the way... I really look forward to building a SoB Army with the Raging Heroes Minuatures (2015...).
I'm looking for a .. WW2 themed soviet SoB army. Does anyone have a project/pictures or anything?

I feel like the soviet green, dirt and battle damage would be a nice alternative to the glittering fancyness of gold and silver.

I was thinking the same. Watch out though, some people don't fancy unorthodox approaches.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
Bye the way... I really look forward to building a SoB Army with the Raging Heroes Minuatures (2015...).
I'm looking for a .. WW2 themed soviet SoB army. Does anyone have a project/pictures or anything?

I feel like the soviet green, dirt and battle damage would be a nice alternative to the glittering fancyness of gold and silver.

I was thinking the same. Watch out though, some people don't fancy unorthodox approaches.

That's kind of a weird response. I think you could do a good army with RH (when they ship) but don't know that they really fit the aesthetic. As long as you're WYSIWYG though, who cares?

I got the feeling from the last few pages that fitting the aesthetic was also important to a lot of people. There was a longish series of posts concerning the acceptable colours for a SoB army. I can only imagine that having non-gothic minis would rank a step higher on the heresy scale.

That being said, I find the arguments from fluff convincing myself. They should be the way they are, the sculpts are still very good. I'm just not willing to wait for plastics or purchase that much metal. I have an honest question, though. The kinks have been worked out of Finecast by now... why aren't they releasing them as such? Sorry if it was already answered, I can't remember it.

Mathieu Raymond wrote:The kinks have been worked out of Finecast by now... why aren't they releasing them as such? Sorry if it was already answered, I can't remember it.

Supposedly, if they want to redo them at all, then it absolutely has to be as poseable multi-part kits, and supposedly, they kept saying that they haven't found a way to make the robes fall off the bodies in a way that reflects all the possible stances.
So, instead of simply re-casting the current designs in plastic, or giving them robes that are less wide, they prefer waiting until they find a way to have plastic behave like soft silk. Make of that what you will.

There have also been reports that, supposedly, they have solved "the problems" associated with a conversion to plastics now, however they, again supposedly, managed to accomplish their earlier goals.

 Lynata wrote:

Mathieu Raymond wrote:The kinks have been worked out of Finecast by now... why aren't they releasing them as such? Sorry if it was already answered, I can't remember it.

Supposedly, if they want to redo them at all, then it absolutely has to be as poseable multi-part kits, and supposedly, they kept saying that they haven't found a way to make the robes fall off the bodies in a way that reflects all the possible stances.

If they'd been marines, GW owuld have found a way already

I'll believe plastic Sisters miniatures when I'm holding them in my hands along with a reciept showing that I purchased them from GW themselves.

I mean yeah ,that's a cynical view to take I admit, but we've heard rumors about new Sisters miniatures for half a decade now at least.

 Crimson wrote:
Well, it's not my fault if you have bad taste in art.

I have bad taste in art because I don't see the epitome of 40k art as depicting metallic power armor as if it was a skin-tight suit of latex, with horrible, inhuman proportions in otherwise human characters, generic scowling faces, and John Blanche's weird fetishes?

Pfft, right, sure. At least I'm not insulting people for disagreeing with me.

If they've got plastics on the agenda, which seems to be the case, then making finecast Sisters would be a bit pointless, really. Might as well keep going with the metals until the plastics are ready, they've held out this long.

Also, GW is apparently moving away from finecast anyway. The new character models in the Marine update were all or mostly plastic.

 Lynata wrote:
So, instead of simply re-casting the current designs in plastic, or giving them robes that are less wide, they prefer waiting until they find a way to have plastic behave like soft silk. Make of that what you will.

Great line -- exalted!

In all seriousness, I keep telling myself that Jes Goodwin will not let SoB fans down. If/when new Sisters models come out it will be one way or another for me: way too much money spent or interest in 40k as a game evaporating completely.

 Manchu wrote:

 Lynata wrote:
So, instead of simply re-casting the current designs in plastic, or giving them robes that are less wide, they prefer waiting until they find a way to have plastic behave like soft silk. Make of that what you will.

Great line -- exalted!

In all seriousness, I keep telling myself that Jes Goodwin will not let SoB fans down. If/when new Sisters models come out it will be one way or another for me: way too much money spent or interest in 40k as a game evaporating completely.

To be fair though, I don't think it is just as easy as 'recasting the current designs in plastic'.

I'm confused -- did you think that's what I was saying?

 Manchu wrote:
I'm confused -- did you think that's what I was saying?

Well, you were exalting Lynata for saying that they could 'simply re-casting the current designs in plastic', so I was getting two birds with one stone by replying to both of you.

No, no. I exalted his post because of his joke that GW is waiting for plastic to behave like silk before making new Sisters. I'm not advocating reacsting the metals in plastic (don't think Lynata is either). That's why I went on to say that I tell myself Jes Goodwin will not let us down.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Sadly you only get one of the clear bubble window bits per kit though. D:

Why do you need two? For the cupola? I never put mine on the cupola, but you could simply not glue that part on if you wanted to.

Because I want both of course.

Manchu wrote:don't think Lynata is either

Yeah, I simplified. Of course they'd need to do new moulds for them as a prerequisite for the re-casting.
That being said, it shouldn't be a problem for them if they wanted. Personally, I have a feeling they may not exactly know what to do with them, and they kept holding off the decision again and again, busying themselves with issues deemed more important.

Anyways, I agree about Jes Goodwin. Perhaps this is a bit naive, but I like to believe he is fond of his work on the SoB.

And before they do new molds they need new masters as the way you cast plastic is different than how you cast metal or resin so the models need to be designed and broken up differently.

The fact that this is coming out this month, but we don't know when, is making time move more slowly for me. :-/

 Manchu wrote:
In all seriousness, I keep telling myself that Jes Goodwin will not let SoB fans down.

 Lynata wrote:
I agree about Jes Goodwin. Perhaps this is a bit naive, but I like to believe he is fond of his work on the SoB.

I think that this is the case, if this interview is anything to go by.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/328983.page

He sounds like he has some interesting ideas for them, and does say that they'd "really wanted to crack on with the Sisters". In any case, I think he'll do right by them, when their time comes. He did give us the original models, after all, and those still hold up today.

And are often said to be the most beautiful minis of the franchise!

Also, just stumbled over this by pure accident:

 SisterSydney wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
OK, all I have is an I Phone, what do I need to download the new codex? Break it down for me, cause I clueless when it comes to technology.

iPhone can't do iBooks.

If it gets released as an .epub file though (which I think the rumors are saying) you should be able to add it via iTunes.

I've got both Eldar and Space Marines on my iPhone, and I got them thru the bookstore, not iTunes...

If you got it through Black Library, then you most likely got the .epub versions. By "add it via iTunes" I wasn't talking about buying them via iTunes though. The way I usually add my non-Apple eBooks to my iPhone is to open iTunes on my PC, go the "add file" route, add the .epub that way, and then sync. That's what I was talking about.

iBook (not eBook) can only be purchased via the iBook app on an iPad.

I mangaged to use my Barnes & Noble contraption (NOOK) for some Black Library publications, a test run in leu of buying an iPad, worked just fine so here I sit waiting for the release...

Apparently the new SM supplement - Sentiinals of Terra includes Apoc formations. I wonder if that's something else we might see in the SoB dex revamp?

D

Dunno if it has been mentiond. but didnt gw use to name them sisters of battle on tHe webpage?

The name is now Adepta Sororitas as mentiond on the WD

 phatonic wrote:
Dunno if it has been mentiond. but didnt gw use to name them sisters of battle on tHe webpage?

The name is now Adepta Sororitas as mentiond on the WD

Well on the german site they were always called 'adeptus sororitas'. (At least since i first visited the site.) GW probably just wants to use a unified name for different languages.

The excitement! It builds by the day. I just checked the GW site, and it does say that, so happy its happening!

Finally. If it turns out well, I might consider getting an Imperial Army for once. I already have 2 xenos armies after all.

Just got this off the GW site:



Looks like this weekend.

Got the Kindle app and Nook app for my PC, figure either way I'm covered now. If not I can bug someone in my group to buy it for me, presuming one of them has an i-something.

Wow, not only did they change the name on the GW site, they even added one of them new paint collections. The optimism, it grows... Although now they need to move it up the list for alphabetical order.

I still think it looks weird - or are they going to change SM to Adeptus Astartes, too?

Props for adding anything, though...
How reliable do we believe the "this weekend" to be? Should I get excited or not?

 Lynata wrote:
I still think it looks weird - or are they going to change SM to Adeptus Astartes, too?

"Space Marines" is worth a lot more to GW then "Adeptus Astartes" so theres never gonna be a change there.

They've added an "army essentials" section to the adepta sororitas section on the webstore too- that implies the codex will be soon.

Now think about why "Space Marines" is more valuable than "Adeptus Astartes" -- maybe because there is a clear brand identity that GW doesn't mess with every time they are reiterated ... unlike SoB. To me, this move signals that GW is once again trying to reinvent the Sisters brand.

Did anybody else notice this?

Adepta Sororitas paint collection (Order of Our Martyred Lady)

This collection contains every colour you need to paint Adepta Sororitas, including their classic black armour, white markings, metallics, red cloth, and skin. These colours are part of the Citadel Paint System, which is designed to help you easily achieve great results on your miniatures.

 Lynata wrote:
I still think it looks weird - or are they going to change SM to Adeptus Astartes, too?

Props for adding anything, though...
How reliable do we believe the "this weekend" to be? Should I get excited or not?

I think it's pretty likely.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Did anybody else notice this?

Adepta Sororitas paint collection (Order of Our Martyred Lady)

This collection contains every colour you need to paint Adepta Sororitas, including their classic black armour, white markings, metallics, red cloth, and skin. These colours are part of the Citadel Paint System, which is designed to help you easily achieve great results on your miniatures.

Never noticed that before. Good find!

Regarding the name change, I sort of like it. "Adepta Sororitas" does sound very professional and that. Though "Sisters of Battle" had an appropriately brutal edge to it, and was more relevant to the forces that you were actually fielding, with non-militant Sororitas appearing only as command squad choices. In any case, it's an interesting move. I think that Manchu is probably correct about a rebranding, just hope that they handle it well.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Did anybody else notice this?

Adepta Sororitas paint collection (Order of Our Martyred Lady)

This collection contains every colour you need to paint Adepta Sororitas, including their classic black armour, white markings, metallics, red cloth, and skin. These colours are part of the Citadel Paint System, which is designed to help you easily achieve great results on your miniatures.

Dammit Martyred Lady, give the other Sisters a turn!

But yeah, this is an extremely positive sign. We're not just seeing an update to our codex, but little things like this too. Things are afoot!

I'm hoping the battle sisters release will be the first actually good release from GW in a long time.

The last release which I'd consider high-quality from GW was the dark eldar. You have to look really hard at a few niche finecast units to find any fault there, the range is pretty much perfect.

Everything since then for 40k has been mostly laughable junk, all about the big flyers or power ranger toy walkers while neglecting to replace troops choices that still have ugly models from 20 years ago.

The thing with having prices as high as GW is that you actually do want some good minis for that price, IMO their concept quality has been getting increasingly infantile over the last few years, and I haven't seen much that deserves a price tag even half of what it is.

My sisters are out on my desk for the first time in about 18months, which means something.....

 scarletsquig wrote:
I'm hoping the battle sisters release will be the first actually good release from GW in a long time.

The last release which I'd consider high-quality from GW was the dark eldar.

You know that the 'sisters release' is just a digidex, right?

Aww... they really deserve some new models! :(

Oh well, maybe in 2020 they might appear as a detachment for the 10th edition space marine codex.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Aww... they really deserve some new models! :(

I think those'll come in due time. The developers did say at the Enter the Citadel Q&A that they now had the technology to make plastic Sisters. Though it'll probably be a while until we see them, overhualing an entire army's models is a lot of work. But hey, the stuff in this thread is still very good news. We can certainly forget our fears of them being squatted or folded, I'd say.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Aww... they really deserve some new models! :(

Oh well, maybe in 2020 they might appear as a detachment for the 10th edition space marine codex.

hehe. Unlikely, although new models in 2020 is probably as safe a bet as any.

So, if this gets a physical release, will it make it into the stores? It'd be fantastic if they got a store presence again.

Also, is there any way for us to see how well this sells, at all?

 pretre wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Aww... they really deserve some new models! :(

Oh well, maybe in 2020 they might appear as a detachment for the 10th edition space marine codex.

hehe. Unlikely, although new models in 2020 is probably as safe a bet as any.

Actually the new Dark Elves are not a bad gauge for the 'new tech' and the supposed problems.

The concept art that people kept describing for the Sisters had them with flowing tabards and chainmail over really ornate plate with a pseudo-Crusader look. But the continual problem that we kept hearing about was that the tabards were coming out as an undetailed mess and ruining the chainmail/tabard look and the plate was coming out pretty shoddy as well.

And a Kindle app will read the new codex? Excellent. Also, I like the Adapta Sororitas change. Sounds more professional.

 pretre wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Aww... they really deserve some new models! :(

Oh well, maybe in 2020 they might appear as a detachment for the 10th edition space marine codex.

hehe. Unlikely, although new models in 2020 is probably as safe a bet as any.

New models by the 41st Millennium!


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Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

 Troike wrote:
Though it'll probably be a while until we see them, overhualing an entire army's models is a lot of work.

They could alleviate pressure and guage interest with 1 full size sprue and 1 character sprue. Pretty minimal investment in time and money.

1 Cannoness character size
1 Full size containing enough for 5 Sisters. This could be done Al la GK power armor sprue. It would be able to produce Celestians, Battle Sister, Seraphim and Retributor squads.

Bam. Done. Watch sell like hotcakes. The rest of the units are tertiary at best. And Sisters fanatics would be too busy de flashing to complain there are no plastic penitent engines.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Seraphim aren't really cross compatible with basic Sisters due to the jump packs and need for pistols out the bum.

Dominions on the other hand would be fine.


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 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Cue "spiritual liege" being used in the next codex!

For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Cue "spiritual liege" being used in the next codex!

The Sisters already have a "spiritual liege": the God-Emperor of Mankind.

 Theophony wrote:
For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

I'm waiting for Sisters, not some 3rd part knock off, and I bet I'm not alone.

 pretre wrote:
Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

?

We're just joking around, bud. It's a fact that ML does get much more attention than any other Order. That's all that's being said.

To clarify, I do like Martyred Lady. My own Minor Order is derived from them, in fact. My only issue is the others not getting any real attention.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Cue "spiritual liege" being used in the next codex!

That wouldm't even be as weird in the context of the Sisters, anyway. They most likely would consider all of the original Sororitas Saints to be spiritual lieges, they'd just focus on their founding Saint and Dominica more than the others.

 pretre wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

I'm just trying to have fun with the obvious favoritism towards on particular sub-faction of our army is all. No need to get upset.


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 Troike wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

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We're just joking around, bud. It's a fact that ML does get much more attention than any other Order. That's all that's being said.

To clarify, I do like Martyred Lady. My own Minor Order is derived from them, in fact. My only issue is the others not getting any real attention.

I'm planning on Argent Shroud myself. Just need some paints. And time. Lot's of time.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm planning on Argent Shroud myself. Just need some paints. And time. Lot's of time.

Ah, the paladin-esque Sisters. A nice choice. They've got some interesting fluff and a nice colourscheme.

I'll be going for Valorous Heart, myself. Their fluff of being over-repentant about the whole Vandire thing, and having an excess of Repentias, is both characterful and fittingly over the top.

Order of the Bloody Rose. I picked the color scheme long before there was a lot of fluff for them. Although, we do have Aspira as our Saint.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm planning on Argent Shroud myself. Just need some paints. And time. Lot's of time.

Ah, the paladin-esque Sisters. A nice choice. They've got some interesting fluff and a nice colourscheme.

I'll be going for Valorous Heart, myself. Their fluff of being over-repentant about the whole Vandire thing, and having an excess of Repentias, is both characterful and fittingly over the top.

My own made up order is derived from them as well. I like the repentant angle a lot. Very Medieval.

I based Our Lady of the Generous Heart Minor Order off of Saint Emillia from the Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM novels. Their color scheme is green, blue, and hazel, because I wanted something bright (my blog has a pic of one for the curious.)

But yeah, painting Sisters is time intensive. Fortunately dry-brushing is easy, it just takes forever.

Hoitash wrote:
I based Our Lady of the Generous Heart Minor Order off of Saint Emillia from the Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM novels. Their color scheme is green, blue, and hazel, because I wanted something bright (my blog has a pic of one for the curious.)

But yeah, painting Sisters is time intensive. Fortunately dry-brushing is easy, it just takes forever.

Argent Shroud isn't THAT bad since it's bolt gun and a black wash for most of it, but I want to do something to make the robes pop a bit more, as well as potentially putting their order's symbol on the robes as well.

Am I the only one with a custom order, and who never bothered naming them as descendant of any major order ?
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Am I the only one with a custom order, and who never bothered naming them as descendant of any major order ?
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

I'm sure there are plenty of people with custom orders with that have no descent from the Major Orders, Just as there are plenty of custom 'First Founding' legions/chapters that people have. Most folks stick with an establish chapter/order and use the existing fluff, building off it rather than bypassing or creating something new though.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Am I the only one with a custom order, and who never bothered naming them as descendant of any major order ?
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

ALL Orders Militant descend from a Major Order. It's actually a really big deal for them that they can all point back to that small little covent the Daughters of the Emperor hailed from and say that it's their spiritual birthplace.

And I was working on my own Minor Order, but gold is a right pain in the neck to paint well, especially with white robes. I was a bit too ambitious in what I was doing and just couldn't make it work like I wanted. So I shifted gears and picked a Major Order instead.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
potentially putting their order's symbol on the robes as well.

You get transfers of their symbols with Immos and Exorcists, enough for a ten woman squad. The arm robes would be a good place to put the transfer, and that's where the transfers go on the studio painted minis.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

Not quite how Minor Orders are made. In the fluff, they basically form when a detachment from a Major Order "settles down" somewhere, establishing their own identities whilst still being nominally under the control of their parent Order. They couldn't just found a new Order out of freshly made Sisters, since the way Novices graduate into Sisters is that they're "adopted" by a Superior from an existing Order.

But hey, if you want an Order of unknown descent, just say that they've forgotten who their parent Order was, though destruction of records, passage of time or isolation. Something like that. It'd make for interesting fluff, since such an Order would be in a unique position.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
potentially putting their order's symbol on the robes as well.

You get transfers of their symbols with Immos and Exorcists, enough for a ten woman squad. The arm robes would be a good place to put the transfer, and that's where the transfers go on the studio painted minis.

Yeah, I don't really dig it being there. And I've seen minis with the symbol on their front robe section, so it's not like it hasn't been done. Looks pretty decent too.

EDIT: GW art actually puts it in both places:



If I did the sleeves though I'd do both of them. It just looks off to me being only one sided like that.

Argent Shroud is my parent Order, and a close contender for my paint option, but the writer in me refused to use an established order, and I was worried my paint job wouldn't be worthy of the fluff.

Same reason I'm not going Scourged or Thousand Sons for my CSM. Heck, one of the things that drew me to orks first was their ease of painting.

I find transfer sheets kinda fiddly, but they do the job if you're careful.

I went with OoM as my "founding" order for my custom order, just liked the fluff, etc, and the color scheme.

Since the topic seems to be what order we play, mine is a desert-themed army that has been half forgotten on a desert planet that has been favoured by thousand sons. My sisters have been fighting skrimishes against the sons since the Emperor knows when, using mostly guerilla warfare tactics.

So I put it to you who have a better idea of the fluff than I do... is there any major order they would more likely be descendant from than the rest?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Seraphim aren't really cross compatible with basic Sisters due to the jump packs and need for pistols out the bum.

Dominions on the other hand would be fine.

Oh you mean like how the GK power armor sprue has the teleporter backpacks and falchions out the wazoo?

Like that yeah? That'd be sooooooooo hard.



Oh wait. No its not. They can pack sprues tight nowadays

 HisDivineShadow wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Seraphim aren't really cross compatible with basic Sisters due to the jump packs and need for pistols out the bum.

Dominions on the other hand would be fine.

Oh you mean like how the GK power armor sprue has the teleporter backpacks and falchions out the wazoo?

Like that yeah? That'd be sooooooooo hard.



Oh wait. No its not. They can pack sprues tight nowadays

Cute. Next time pay attention to actual model asthetics. Seraphim have more going on in what they look like and how they're posed than a PA unit who is using some kind of teleporter instead of an actual jump pack.

COULD GW do it? Yes. SHOULD they? No.

I keep clicking on this hoping someone will have posted the release date of the digital dex.....So disappointed so far....

 Hulksmash wrote:
I keep clicking on this hoping someone will have posted the release date of the digital dex.....So disappointed so far....

We've got signs that it'll be this weekend.

Depends. If they are treating it like a supplement or like a digital transfer. Transfer = no real pre-order time. Supplement means a week pre-order. Fingers crossed you're right and it's this weekend.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I keep clicking on this hoping someone will have posted the release date of the digital dex.....So disappointed so far....

As long as I'm alerted, it will be in the thread title and OP when confirmed as is the usual practice on this site.

 Troike wrote:
I'll be going for Valorous Heart, myself. Their fluff of being over-repentant about the whole Vandire thing, and having an excess of Repentias, is both characterful and fittingly over the top.

Valorous Heart is mine as well. Have two units of Repentia though never had the nerve to use both together. The only time they have come seriously unstuck is against Noise Marines

 Hulksmash wrote:
Depends. If they are treating it like a supplement or like a digital transfer. Transfer = no real pre-order time. Supplement means a week pre-order. Fingers crossed you're right and it's this weekend.

Good point. Well either way we'll know when they're coming out this weekend!

Bloody Rose for me too:



BTW re the paint set mentioned on the last page - today every army gets a paint set.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I was working on my own Minor Order, but gold is a right pain in the neck to paint well, especially with white robes. I was a bit too ambitious in what I was doing and just couldn't make it work like I wanted. So I shifted gears and picked a Major Order instead.

I know how that feels. I'm still slogging through my gold armour, white robe sisters. Check sig. Glad i went with it though. When sisters come in plastic, gunna do it all again, but paint the gold better. A little too far in to change it all now.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

I'm waiting for Sisters, not some 3rd part knock off, and I bet I'm not alone.

I have acquired every sister figure released by GW, since the day they released the first box set. I'll be getting the Dreamforge Widows as well, not to use as sisters. I'm sure some people will use the Widows as proxies but suggesting that they're '3rd part knockoffs' is not accurate. The AVA model doesn't look anything like an SoB, and I'm really quite sure it was never meant to.

The Dreamforge heavy infantry, at least the renders, could reasonably be called Grey Knight knockoffs- although GW didn't invent that characteristic greathelm visor either.

I'm torn about getting this digital release. I have everything SoB I can get my claws on, but I doubt I'll be playing 40K again. I enjoy other rules systems so much more.

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

I'm waiting for Sisters, not some 3rd part knock off, and I bet I'm not alone.

I have acquired every sister figure released by GW, since the day they released the first box set. I'll be getting the Dreamforge Widows as well, not to use as sisters. I'm sure some people will use the Widows as proxies but suggesting that they're '3rd part knockoffs' is not accurate. The AVA model doesn't look anything like an SoB, and I'm really quite sure it was never meant to.

I'm missing one of the variant Canoness models and the real banner bearer model, but I'm with you on the collection aspect.

And I apologize for calling them "knock offs", it's just that when people start talking about models to use as "count-as Sisters" they're designed to try and look like nuns, or space nuns, or centerfolds dressed as some variant of nun/space nun. I'm just well past caring about it. I like the armored "Joan of Arc" style the GW ones have and that's what I want to continue with.

Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic. This should include a range of finecast HQ units (with a Canoness which has multiple weapon options) and a single plastic kit which will allow players to make several units (Battle Sisters, Dominion, etc). From what I hear, all of the units that are getting resculpts (such as the plastic Sisters) are some of the most gorgeous and detailed models GW has put out to-date.

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

That's interesting. Sad to think that we sisters players are so hard up that even the most slight evidence that GW has thought about the range AT ALL, even to change a little code on a website, is exciting.

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

Canadian website seems to say "Adepta Sororitas."

Lots of interesting changes here. The paint set is probably the neatest, and definitely a good sign.

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic. This should include a range of finecast HQ units (with a Canoness which has multiple weapon options) and a single plastic kit which will allow players to make several units (Battle Sisters, Dominion, etc). From what I hear, all of the units that are getting resculpts (such as the plastic Sisters) are some of the most gorgeous and detailed models GW has put out to-date.

I haven't heard those rumors and would love to know where they're coming from, but as for the Adepta Sororitas thing, that was covered a couple pages back:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Just got this off the GW site:



Looks like this weekend.

 Marik Law wrote:
I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic.

I really don't think that this will be the case. Not only have GW devs stated that they now have the capability to make plastic Sisters (which would render finecast Sisters a pointless middleman) but they're moving away from finecast in general. Look at the recent Marine update, everything was in plastic, IIRC. Certainly some of the characters.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic. This should include a range of finecast HQ units (with a Canoness which has multiple weapon options) and a single plastic kit which will allow players to make several units (Battle Sisters, Dominion, etc). From what I hear, all of the units that are getting resculpts (such as the plastic Sisters) are some of the most gorgeous and detailed models GW has put out to-date.

I haven't heard those rumors and would love to know where they're coming from,

From what I've been told, apparently GW has had finecast molds for a lot of Sisters models for over a year now as well as at least one plastic mold finished. I'm pretty certain the plastic mold was the generic Sisters unit which can make multiple units (ala Grey Knights). I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, but we may be able to expect a lot of Finecast re-releases and maybe a plastic kit or two (though very few re-designs). I haven't heard anything about any new units, sadly. :

 Marik Law wrote:
From what I've been told, apparently GW has had finecast molds for a lot of Sisters models for over a year now

Oh? Source?

I haven't heard any rumors about finecast Sisters at all. Only about plastic ones.

 Marik Law wrote:
From what I've been told,

By whom?

Marik is an established rumor source, so probably by 'little birdies'. (Of course, he is also 1/10 so might want to take it with a pinch of salt.)

 pretre wrote:
Marik is an established rumor source, so probably by 'little birdies'

Yep -- according to your scorecard he's one true to ten false.

I am so looking forward to our mini update.

As for my colour scheme and who is descended from whom, all of your sisters orders come from my sisters actually.

I play them as the actual Daughters of the Emperor circa M36.

Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

pretre wrote:Just as there are plenty of custom 'First Founding' legions/chapters that people have. Most folks stick with an establish chapter/order and use the existing fluff, building off it rather than bypassing or creating something new though.

If you don't want to choose from which chapter yours come from, it's pretty easy and it doesn't require to contradict the fluff : there are many examples in the fluff of chapters whose geneseed provider are not known.
On the other hand, pretending your chapter to be a first founding chapter obviously goes very strongly against the established fluff. Just like pretending your custom order predates or is more important than any of the six big ones, which I didn't do.

ClockworkZion wrote:ALL Orders Militant descend from a Major Order. It's actually a really big deal for them that they can all point back to that small little covent the Daughters of the Emperor hailed from and say that it's their spiritual birthplace.

I don't see the link between your first and second sentence .
And if we are going that route, why don't the two Rose orders also trace their origins to one of the four original orders ? The Bloody Rose had been a group of (then Ordeless ?) bodyguard for the Abbess, but there is no such mention for the Sacred Rose.

Troike wrote:But hey, if you want an Order of unknown descent, just say that they've forgotten who their parent Order was, though destruction of records, passage of time or isolation. Something like that. It'd make for interesting fluff, since such an Order would be in a unique position.

Actually, it's not so much that I want that, it's more that I never even thought to find a parent order for mine, it just never stuck me as anything important. Especially with so few elements on the difference between the six major Orders.

Purifier wrote:So I put it to you who have a better idea of the fluff than I do... is there any major order they would more likely be descendant from than the rest?

As far as I know, everything we have one the differences between orders is from WD293UK, so :
- Our Martyred Lady are quite “vengeful”
- Bloody Rose are “brooding” and “quick to anger”
- Sacred Rose's “founder” (which was already dead for a long time when the Order was actually founded, but it was the same for the Bloody Rose, and that didn't kept them from sharing some of the personality of Saint Mina, so maybe the Sacred Rose sisters share some of Saint Arabella) was “a particularly serene, even-tempered sister, renowned for her calm nature in the face of adversity.” and “many sisters pray to her for liberation from doubt and rash action at times when a cool head is required.”
Make of that what you will.

Manchu wrote:As long as I'm alerted, it will be in the thread title and OP when confirmed as is the usual practice on this site.

That's quite awesome.

 pretre wrote:
Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

EDIT: nvm

 pretre wrote:
Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

Hmmm, don't know if she's getting nerfed, but I checked the Canoness page and saw that Palatine is in the stats. Was that always there? I would've remembered that, I think.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:ALL Orders Militant descend from a Major Order. It's actually a really big deal for them that they can all point back to that small little covent the Daughters of the Emperor hailed from and say that it's their spiritual birthplace.

I don't see the link between your first and second sentence .
And if we are going that route, why don't the two Rose orders also trace their origins to one of the four original orders ? The Bloody Rose had been a group of (then Ordeless ?) bodyguard for the Abbess, but there is no such mention for the Sacred Rose.

They do, but they were established as a Major Order with a patron saint (one of the 6 Brides who saw the Emperor). The point was that all the Orders have a very easy to trace lineage, and none of them are just created on the spot like a Marine chapter is. Though a Minor Order can be made by splitting a group off of a Major Order, but that's not the same thing.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

That's the weird thing, I'm clicking on the Adepta Sororitas tab, going straight to the Canoness and still seeing the Palatine there. Though that description might be the old one, now that I'm looking.

The old Witch Hunters pages were still on there, and you could sometimes fall into them by clicking on stuff in the "have you got?" section. This is a technical derp by the website people, I guess? Maybe they linked to the older pages instead of the newer ones?

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

That's the weird thing, I'm clicking on the Adepta Sororitas tab, going straight to the Canoness and still seeing the Palatine there. Though that description might be the old one, now that I'm looking.

The old Witch Hunters pages were still on there, and you could sometimes fall into them by clicking on stuff in the "have you got?" section. This is a technical derp by the website people, I guess? maybe they linked to the older pages instead of the newer ones?

They never updated the old stuff so there are still bad links and old info abound on there.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

That's the weird thing, I'm clicking on the Adepta Sororitas tab, going straight to the Canoness and still seeing the Palatine there. Though that description might be the old one, now that I'm looking.

The old Witch Hunters pages were still on there, and you could sometimes fall into them by clicking on stuff in the "have you got?" section. This is a technical derp by the website people, I guess? maybe they linked to the older pages instead of the newer ones?

I'm also seeing stuff like Repentia with Ld 6 and Seraphim with I 4. Very confusing. I'd hoped they would have tidied up the REALLY old stuff by now.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
They never updated the old stuff so there are still bad links and old info abound on there.

 Muddypaw wrote:
I'm also seeing stuff like Repentia with Ld 6 and Seraphim with I 4. Very confusing. I'd hoped they would have tidied up the REALLY old stuff by now.

The way it worked before is that there were two pages for some of the units. If you used to tabs on the left, you'd go straight to the up to date stuff. But you sometimes got into Witch Hunter-era pages through the "have you got?" bit, somehow. So yeah, it seems that, for some reason, they've dropped the old Witch Hunters pages into the new Adepta Sororitas section. Hope they fix it soon.

 Troike wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

Hmmm, don't know if she's getting nerfed, but I checked the Canoness page and saw that Palatine is in the stats. Was that always there? I would've remembered that, I think.

Actually, come to think of it, I distinctly remember the Palatine being on there for awhile (don't know why though just stuck in the memory for some reason), at least several months. I'm pretty sure they never updated that one, and probably the others too. The "what you can make with this kit" bit seems to be something they don't really do anymore across the website (none of the new SM releases have it, as far as I know), and the ones that have are relics I think- GW only seems to update stuff when it absolutely has too.

Yeah, I'm going to go with leftovers from c:wh. Never mind!

Here is my question.... If I wanted the "updated" sister's rules, do I have to own a Ipad?

If I don't own one, am I gak out of luck?

ClockworkZion wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
And if we are going that route, why don't the two Rose orders also trace their origins to one of the four original orders ? The Bloody Rose had been a group of (then Ordeless ?) bodyguard for the Abbess, but there is no such mention for the Sacred Rose.

They do

So, from which Order do the Order of the Bloody Rose comes from ?

Lockark wrote:Here is my question.... If I wanted the "updated" sister's rules, do I have to own a Ipad?

If I don't own one, am I gak out of luck?

Supposedly, there will also be standard ebook files that can be read one the very PC from which you posted this message.

 Lockark wrote:
Here is my question.... If I wanted the "updated" sister's rules, do I have to own a Ipad?

If I don't own one, am I gak out of luck?

Nope any ereader or program that will read ePub or mobi works.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, from which Order do the Order of the Bloody Rose comes from ?

Are you really going to keep trying to argue fluff in a rumors thread?

Here's the point (since you keep missing it):

All Sisters of Battle can trace the lineage of the order they belong to back through any parent orders all the way to the the Brides of the Emperor, and the from there to the Daughters of the Emperor on San Leor without breaks in the chain.

It doesn't matter if we know whom exactly came from whom, just that is how it is. That's an established point of fluff and the only point I've been trying to make so kindly stow the posturing already. Orders aren't founded randomly, nor just because there is a large number of orphans somewhere. There is an actual process and a method to all of it and if you don't like that, fine. But in the future if you don't like some piece of fluff take it up with GW instead of trying to pick my sentences apart like this is YMDC. There is no gray area here, and it's not a debate. This is a key point in the Sisters fluff that seperates them from the Marines people compare them too all the time. We have dozens of Marines who can't trace their lineage anywhere, but every single Order can. That's the way it is, just deal with it.

Back on topic: I am going to be a little sad if we end up seeing pre-orders on Saturday for a digital only product.

EDIT: For some reason it wasn't quoting things correctly.

As for Sacred Rose and Bloody Rose, if memory serves, they were formed from Sisters within the existing Orders who revered Mina and Arabella respectively. So they can indeed trace their lineages

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:So, from which Order do the Order of the Bloody Rose comes from ?

The Valorous Heart and the Martyred Lady.
The Convents Prioris and Sanctorum were split twice in their history - once in M36 by Alexis XXII, and once in mid M38 by Deacis VI who also ordered the convent buildings expanded to house 15.000 Sisters each. The Orders of the Bloody Rose and the Sacred Rose were created in the 2nd partition.

Although it might be inadvisable to look to the "Big Six" when discussing the Minor Orders, as there are some differences between the latter and their maternal Major Orders.


My own Minor Order is a more or less ship-based offspring of the Argent Shroud - silver armour, white robes with a red stripe on each sleeve and the lower section. Their icon is a stylised crimson sword surrounded by a spiked halo; a not so subtle reference to the Venus symbol:


It's a bitch to paint on the sleeves, but with a very thin brush and a steady hand it worked out nicely.

Troike wrote:Hmmm, don't know if she's getting nerfed, but I checked the Canoness page and saw that Palatine is in the stats. Was that always there? I would've remembered that, I think.

Ditto.

But I don't trust my memory all that much when it comes to such things. Curses - for a moment I almost thought we might get our Palatines back.

pretre wrote:Marik is an established rumor source, so probably by 'little birdies'. (Of course, he is also 1/10 so might want to take it with a pinch of salt.)

Manchu wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Marik is an established rumor source, so probably by 'little birdies'

Yep -- according to your scorecard he's one true to ten false.

That's the problem with not having a dedicated, reliable rumour source. I have to take the bits and pieces I get from the birdies I hear from, sift through the stuff that doesn't sound true and hope what's left over is potentially good. I'd rather post the plausible stuff I hear that not share anything at all.

I talked to the person who told me this again, he wouldn't say anything more than he already had but did say that Finecasts were indeed incoming (Celestine, Kyrinov, Canoness, and Repentia were the ones he mentioned by name) and single plastic kit that make Battle, Dominion, Retributor, or Seraphim squads. He could be simply rumour-rehashing, dunno.

I guess we will see soon.

Marik Law wrote:

That's the problem with not having a dedicated, reliable rumour source. I have to take the bits and pieces I get from the birdies I hear from, sift through the stuff that doesn't sound true and hope what's left over is potentially good. I'd rather post the plausible stuff I hear that not share anything at all.

Seriously? Rumors are unreliable for a reason, they're not.always facts.

True enough SoloFalcon. Some people get lucky enough to be in the know anyways though.

I was just reading Death Company from a Black Library purchase on my Barnes and Noble NOOK as a test run. I am enjoying the read just now, and I will purchase any electronic reader only codices that are relevant to my armies in support of our cause, if incase the rumor is true about producing hard cover versions. Just doing my part.

This has put me in such a terrific mood all week! So exciting. Been saving money in my Sister jar(my gaming money jar) and ready to buy ASAP. Been waiting too dang long for no word over the years. Not nearly long as pretre and others and yall's faith out the wazoo, props to you guys.

I don't want to seem like a Negatron, but there's a touch too much optimism in this thread about a possible plastic kit release. Yes I'm excited we're getting an update, yes I'm surprised that there's gonna be a Sisters themed paintset but do I think we'll see finecast/plastic models, I'm afraid not. At best we might see blisters and vehicle kits in GW stores for a while to support the dex update. I do think we'll get plastic kits eventually but I'd probably default to the answer of 'Atleast a year away'.

Of course I'd love to be wrong and see new kits sooner but for now we'll have to be content with the update. Which will hopefully be anny day now!

D

Being brutally honest i expect that this codex update will just be that, a codex update, definitely no new models, and no other support from GW in stores, only the re-vamping of their section on the GW site. If they manage to put all the old models up on their site id be impressed (seraphim superior still missing from Uk site)!

If there is anything more than this ill be very surprised and happy to be wrong

 scrunty wrote:
Being brutally honest i expect that this codex update will just be that, a codex update, definitely no new models,

We know! I don't think that anybody was expecting new models with this. If there were new models, we probably would have heard about them by now.

It'll take them quite a fair bit of work to make all of those plastics, and then they'll want to wait for a good time to do so financially. We probably won't see them for a year or so, yet.

http://pinsofwar.com/codex-adepta-sororitas-cover/

Looks like the 19th

Arrgh, that's two bloody weeks away! :(

I do really like that cover art, though. It suits the Sisters nicely. And it seems to be a new piece of artwork to boot, nice to see them putting in the effort and not just recycling older artwork.

The GW: Digital Editions Facebook page just announced f they get a hundred new likes they will release info on the SoB codex

https://www.facebook.com/GamesWorkshopDigitalEditions/posts/168633373331503:0

Well I've hit the Like button.

The good news is I'll definitely have money by then to afford it. The bad news is I've got to wait two weeks to buy it.

I did my part



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even though we apparently already have a pic of it.

And here's the cover:

I'm suprised they commisioned new artwork for it.
I don't expect any new minis for them in the near or middle future though.


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It's very nice though.

From the GW Digital facebook Page:

It's certainly based on the White Dwarf Sisters of Battle Codex, but with new additions to bring it in line with the new books. Things like Warlords table, new Ecclesiarchy Relics and an Altar of War.
There's also new artwork and an expanded background section.

Altar of War? weeee!

Pssst: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Digital-Goodie-Bag.html

Relics and an alter of war sound very cool. Maybe its better than I thought.

Gah, no! I can't start gaining hope here.

Guys, i recently visited the facebook site as well and they added a little comment on what to expect inside the digital codex:

"It's certainly based on the White Dwarf Sisters of Battle Codex, but with new additions to bring it in line with the new books. Things like Warlords table, new Ecclesiarchy Relics and an Altar of War.
There's also new artwork and an expanded background section."

So it is seems we will see the expected relics but for the more experienced SoB players: What is an Altar of War? Was there something similar before or is it something new?


edit: Hehe someone was faster than me.

Seriously. I honestly think GW will be surprised at the sheer volume of people wanting this.

 Evil Lamp 6 wrote:

Seriously. I honestly think GW will be surprised at the sheer volume of people wanting this.

QFT

 btldoomhammer wrote:
What is an Altar of War? Was there something similar before or is it something new?

Basically new missions. I don't think Sisters have had any before (but Marines are onto their second book of them!).

beast_gts wrote:

Basically new missions. I don't think Sisters have had any before (but Marines are onto their second book of them!).

For a moment I thought Sisters would get this:



I still want to kitbast it with a Rhino.

I always thought that the little guy was about to have a bad day when the griffin lowers the hammer.

beast_gts wrote:

 btldoomhammer wrote:
What is an Altar of War? Was there something similar before or is it something new?

Basically new missions. I don't think Sisters have had any before (but Marines are onto their second book of them!).

There was one in the WD that contained part 2 of their codex. I expect it to be a reprint of that.

Uh, that Artwork truely IS lovely!

Less than 40 likes to go! woop!
Is anyone else sitting at their computer and pressing the refresh button every 30 seconds, watching the likes go up?

Haighus wrote:
Less than 40 likes to go! woop!
Is anyone else sitting at their computer and pressing the refresh button every 30 seconds, watching the likes go up?

Yes.

Edit: Also reading Dakka.

 Evil Lamp 6 wrote:

Haighus wrote:
Less than 40 likes to go! woop!
Is anyone else sitting at their computer and pressing the refresh button every 30 seconds, watching the likes go up?

Yes.

Edit: Also reading Dakka.

Haha! yup, also reading dakka!

Well I'll be damned. Here I was expecting a simple copy & paste with a single new table, and now they announced this? Praise the Emperor!

Also, dat artwork. <3

ClockworkZion wrote:And here's the cover:

It's quite good, but maybe a little too escher girl for me. The background is cool, the two sisters at the back are cool, the front sister is cool from the shoulder up, but the rest is strangely distorted, and the pose quite don't make sense. Why the hell is she walking both sideway and away from where is is shooting ? Why don't she look at where she is going ? That's never too good an idea to go around without looking when the whole battlefield is on fire !
It's a little sad because if they had just given her lower body a sensible pose, the cover would have been AWESOME !

 Troike wrote:
Arrgh, that's two bloody weeks away! :(

I do really like that cover art, though. It suits the Sisters nicely. And it seems to be a new piece of artwork to boot, nice to see them putting in the effort and not just recycling older artwork.

Yeah, I'm glad to see new art. Also like that piece, have very few complaints about it mostly the use of lipstick and the thinness, but that's probably just an aesthetic difference rather than an artistic complaint-- it's definitely leagues better than much of the older art.


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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
It's a little sad because if they had just given her lower body a sensible pose, the cover would have been AWESOME !

True. But it's still better than the Blanche cover.

Had they given her this pose, I would be so happy right now. It was so close !

That cover is beautiful! GW knocked it right outta the ballpark.

At least you cannot see her butt... most comic depictions of female characters break their spines and try to show breasts AND butts at the same time.

This one is not perfect, but at least they don't go the mentioned way.

1,146 Likes! Woo!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Had they given her this pose, I would be so happy right now. It was so close !

I've just checked the pose she is in (with the time honoured method of standing up and trying to fit into the same pose, probably looked hilarious ) and assuming she is resting her left foot on something raised (like a pile of heretic skulls or something, this is GW) it does actually work. To me the model looks like its static, not walking forwards, and just been forced to target an enemy who isn't directly in front of her, hence the change in stance. Personally, I would have thought looking where you are firing is more important than looking where your body is facing, especially if you don't even seem to be walking.


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beast_gts wrote:
1,146 Likes! Woo!

and in just over 2 hours too they probably weren't expecting it to be that quick.

Well they said "by the end of the day". I don't know what schedule their on, but it's been achieved, now they just need to get their butts in gear and release info.

Preferably more than just the cover. Or else we may see a zealous mob form.

Cover is nice and very well done, if somewhat bland and boring. Needs more skulls, grit and general insanus, really. Heretic on a stick is a nice touch, though.

ENOUGH WITH THESE MOTHERF SKULLS ON THIS MOTHERF COVER
by Samuel L. Motherf Jackson

 Melissia wrote:

 Troike wrote:
Arrgh, that's two bloody weeks away! :(

I do really like that cover art, though. It suits the Sisters nicely. And it seems to be a new piece of artwork to boot, nice to see them putting in the effort and not just recycling older artwork.

Yeah, I'm glad to see new art. Also like that piece, have very few complaints about it mostly the use of lipstick and the thinness, but that's probably just an aesthetic difference rather than an artistic complaint-- it's definitely leagues better than much of the older art.


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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
It's a little sad because if they had just given her lower body a sensible pose, the cover would have been AWESOME !

True. But it's still better than the Blanche cover.

I bet if we start a campaign, they might release this edition with an alternate Blanche art cover.

boooh

"Games Workshop: Digital Editions We might have some news on that tomorrow...
- Eddie"

I'm interested in the fluff that will come with it. I want more detailed and specific history, practices, organization, etc.

 MWHistorian wrote:
I'm interested in the fluff that will come with it. I want more detailed and specific history, practices, organization, etc.

And maybe less dying in droves. They seem to do that a lot.

That cover is awesome!

That is a pretty nice cover.

When did the Sororitas get grimly cute, though?

 PaperworkNinja wrote:
That is a pretty nice cover.

When did the Sororitas get grimly cute, though?

The moment they became women in a game dominated by younger male players?

[headcanon]Since forever.[/headcanon]

 PaperworkNinja wrote:
That is a pretty nice cover.

When did the Sororitas get grimly cute, though?

If you're any organization and you're producing propaganda/posters/information that goes out to the masses, do you put the person who got hammered with the ugly club or the good looking one on the cover?

And I think 'cute' is the wrong adjective. Unless facial scars are 'cute' now.


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Also, 'Ecclesiarchy Relics'? Return of a decent wargear section?

Yeah, that's what it looks like. Maybe we'll get a S8 cc weapon ! I won't count on it though.

 PaperworkNinja wrote:
When did the Sororitas get grimly cute, though?

Since forever? YMMV

Wow great cover - loving it

RoninXiC wrote:
ENOUGH WITH THESE MOTHERF SKULLS ON THIS MOTHERF COVER
by Samuel L. Motherf Jackson

Agree, pressed "Like" and looking forward to the 19th.

 Ventusgermany wrote:

It's certainly based on the White Dwarf Sisters of Battle Codex, but with new additions to bring it in line with the new books. Things like Warlords table, new Ecclesiarchy Relics and an Altar of War.
There's also new artwork and an expanded background section.

Fantastic!!! I'm bloody excited by this. Not only do we get lots of 6e stuff, but new artwork and what sounds like substantial additions to the fluff. Cannot wait to get ahold of this.

 Evil Lamp 6 wrote:
Seriously. I honestly think GW will be surprised at the sheer volume of people wanting this.

Same. Hell, just on that initial Facebook post, they claimed that they'd been "inundated" with questions about this digital codex. Very positive sign.

 Melissia wrote:
mostly the use of lipstick

Yeah, that bugs me as well. The website store models are painted like it too.

They're not only highly disciplined soldiers, but insanely devoted fanatics who make a point of forgoing any self-indulgence. I'm not seeing how lipstick would be considered something that they'd use.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I bet if we start a campaign, they might release this edition with an alternate Blanche art cover.

Heresy!

RoninXiC wrote:
boooh

"Games Workshop: Digital Editions We might have some news on that tomorrow...
- Eddie"

Clearly, they were not prepared for the masses of the faithful who took interest.

Hoitash wrote:
And maybe less dying in droves. They seem to do that a lot.

Have you read their codex? They're the ones who do the asskicking. And the only SoB massacre in there, Santuary 101, gets one sentence devoted to it.

Looks like all the doomsayers were right: GW killed off the Sisters of Battle.

...


However, you can use all your old models as counts-as for your brand new Adepta Sororitas army! Well, all the ones that are still fieldable with the new rules. We'll find out in a few weeks. Not that I expect any to get left out in the cold, but there is always a chance with codex updates.

The cover is pretty sweeeeeet.

Looks to be Anna Steinbauer art. Beautiful stuff!

I know this is a stop gap release, but that also means we'll be getting something bigger/better down the road. <3 it!

 Nevelon wrote:
Looks like all the doomsayers were right: GW killed off the Sisters of Battle.

...


However, you can use all your old models as counts-as for your brand new Adepta Sororitas army! Well, all the ones that are still fieldable with the new rules. We'll find out in a few weeks. Not that I expect any to get left out in the cold, but there is always a chance with codex updates.

Sisters of Battle are a sub group of the Adepta Sororitas. So no, nothing was "killed", it just looks like the focus might be a bit broader than just the Militant Orders.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Looks like all the doomsayers were right: GW killed off the Sisters of Battle.

...


However, you can use all your old models as counts-as for your brand new Adepta Sororitas army! Well, all the ones that are still fieldable with the new rules. We'll find out in a few weeks. Not that I expect any to get left out in the cold, but there is always a chance with codex updates.

Sisters of Battle are a sub group of the Adepta Sororitas. So no, nothing was "killed", it just looks like the focus might be a bit broader than just the Militant Orders.

Which can only be a good thing in my book- some more Ecclesiarchy stuff would be awesome! I'm happy for them to leave the Ordo Hereticus in the GK dex though, would be weird to have the units in 2 codices anyway.

 Troike wrote:

Hoitash wrote:
And maybe less dying in droves. They seem to do that a lot.

Have you read their codex? They're the ones who do the asskicking. And the only SoB massacre in there, Santuary 101, gets one sentence devoted to it.

True, much ass is kicked in the codex. It does seem like in the overall lore, though, that they die a lot, but maybe my perspective is colored by all the nay-sayers in my gaming club.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
it just looks like the focus might be a bit broader than just the Militant Orders.

How would they go about that, though? The non-militants really can't do much on a battlefield apart from playing small supporting roles, as they do now. Though they could also be talking from a fluff perspective, maybe?

Yay! New book!

Hoitash wrote:
It does seem like in the overall lore, though, that they die a lot, but maybe my perspective is colored by all the nay-sayers in my gaming club.

They really don't, when you look at all avaliable fluff. It's mostly internet hyperbole, IMO. The Bloodtide alone caused a massive overreaction, to the point where some people seem to think that Ward is some creepy SoB murderer when on balance, he's written more positive fluff about them than negative (he wrote the WD codex fluff).

Its good to see some love for the Nuns with Guns

Lets hope the BA codex gets some good treatment too

Lucarikx

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
it just looks like the focus might be a bit broader than just the Militant Orders.

How would they go about that, though? The non-militants really can't do much on a battlefield apart from playing small supporting roles, as they do now. Though they could also be talking from a fluff perspective, maybe?

Well, technically, preachers and confessors and stuff aren't militant, because of the Ecclesiarchy restrictions. So I guess we could see "not-militant" units of absolute fanatics, sort of like the direct loyalist equivalent of chaos cultists.

Haighus wrote:Well, technically, preachers and confessors and stuff aren't militant, because of the Ecclesiarchy restrictions. So I guess we could see "not-militant" units of absolute fanatics, sort of like the direct loyalist equivalent of chaos cultists.

But then it should really be called "Codex: Ecclesiarchy" ...

I really think the rename doesn't make much sense. No idea why they might've done it.

Getting Frateris Militia/Zealots/Redemptionists back would be cool, though!

Haighus wrote:
Well, technically, preachers and confessors and stuff aren't militant, because of the Ecclesiarchy restrictions.

Sure, but neither are they Sororitas. Here, the first two paragraphs of this article explain it:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adepta_Sororitas#.Uk7q_xCGcfw

 Lynata wrote:

Haighus wrote:Well, technically, preachers and confessors and stuff aren't militant, because of the Ecclesiarchy restrictions. So I guess we could see "not-militant" units of absolute fanatics, sort of like the direct loyalist equivalent of chaos cultists.

But then it should really be called "Codex: Ecclesiarchy" ...

I really think the rename doesn't make much sense. No idea why they might've done it.

Getting Frateris Militia/Zealots/Redemptionists back would be cool, though!

Could say exactly the same thing about Codex: Chaos Space Marines, what with most of the top lists apparently having less than a handful of power armoured models... As long as the militia is not an automatic better option than sisters, I'm all for it though.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
it just looks like the focus might be a bit broader than just the Militant Orders.

How would they go about that, though? The non-militants really can't do much on a battlefield apart from playing small supporting roles, as they do now. Though they could also be talking from a fluff perspective, maybe?

Not sure honestly. Fluff seems the most likely, but with GW you can never be 100% sure what they'll do.


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 Lucarikx wrote:
Its good to see some love for the Nuns with Guns

Lets hope the BA codex gets some good treatment too

Lucarikx

They're getting what they already have it seems.

Really like to new cover art. Mostly I'm really happy that we're getting new content.

I have a small sad face in that the 19th seems far away, but I can't wait for it to come around.

D

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Looks like all the doomsayers were right: GW killed off the Sisters of Battle.

...


However, you can use all your old models as counts-as for your brand new Adepta Sororitas army! Well, all the ones that are still fieldable with the new rules. We'll find out in a few weeks. Not that I expect any to get left out in the cold, but there is always a chance with codex updates.

Sisters of Battle are a sub group of the Adepta Sororitas. So no, nothing was "killed", it just looks like the focus might be a bit broader than just the Militant Orders.

Sorry, with the name change I thought I'd toss a joke in there, as technically Codex: SoB is no more.

At least two of the non-militant orders are already represented in the command squad, where you can have a hospitaler and dialogus. Not that anyone takes them, as that would require a cannoness, but there you go. Not sure how they could work in the Famolus ones.

They could bump them up to be more then just members of a command squad, as actual ICs in their own right. Depends what they want to focus the army on. It's already morphed into C:WH and back, so who knows what's in store this time. We'll find out in a couple of weeks.

Holy moly, that cover art is great! I was concerned the digital codex would just be an old piece of art with minimal effort. GW has proved me wrong in this regard, so I can hope that even more good surprises await us on the 19th!

Heck, I might need to bump my combat patrol force of Sisters up to a full force! Their imagery is some of my favorite in 40k. I feel like the name change was to focus the army towards the more ornateness and unapproachability that the army often represents. That the name goes back to the Latin promotes this concept. They aren't Space Marines, functioning solely as weapons of war. They are the spirit of the greater Imperium.

At least that's how I take it.

Hoitash wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
I'm interested in the fluff that will come with it. I want more detailed and specific history, practices, organization, etc.

And maybe less dying in droves. They seem to do that a lot.

So do Imperial Fists.

beast_gts wrote:

 btldoomhammer wrote:
What is an Altar of War? Was there something similar before or is it something new?

Basically new missions. I don't think Sisters have had any before (but Marines are onto their second book of them!).

In the 3E Witch Hunter codex they had a mission called "Defend The Shrine".

You place the shrine in the middle of the table, the defender can set up units anywhere within 12" of the shrine.
The attacker splits his forces into 2 roughly equal forces and can deploy within 12" from the short table edges.

Then the Battle Missions book came and Spheeezeee Meehhhreeeneeezzz got All-Round Defence.
You place an objective in the middle, the defender deploys within 12" of it, enemy must deploy more than 18" from the centre of the table...


Oh how GW loves to twist that rusty fork into our sides...

Nevelon wrote:At least two of the non-militant orders are already represented in the command squad, where you can have a hospitaler and dialogus. Not that anyone takes them, as that would require a cannoness, but there you go. Not sure how they could work in the Famolus ones.

This isn't a premiere; we already had Non-Militant Sisters in the CA 2002 army list. In it, the Famulous basically unlocked the option to add squads from C:IG, representing Guard, PDF or militia forces seconded to the Ecclesiarchy by way of the Orders Famulous' "diplomatic" network.

Having these characters as ICs would be cool, but I really don't want to see the general style of the army shift away from the SoB.

Also, it's called Codex Imperial Guard even though it also has Commissars, Psykers and Confessors .. even a Navy guy, so meh.

The "make it sound more churchy" theory from Accolade is interesting, but if that was the intention I still don't agree with it. They've been the Sisters of Battle for, what, 20 years by now, and it just looks "out of place" to have this army be the only one referred to by its Adeptus name.


As for Missions, we actually had a bunch. The White Dwarf issue accompanying the 2E Codex release featured a mini-series of missions connected by the story of a Genestealer Cult attacking the local Ecclesiarchy. In the first mission you had to defend the temple, in the second you were scouting the enemy, and the third was a purge, iirc.
Also, one of the White Dwarf issues following the 5E Minidex released had three missions for SoB, too. I remember because of the accompanying fluff piece stating that the Sisters exterminated several Marine Chapters in the past.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 btldoomhammer wrote:
What is an Altar of War? Was there something similar before or is it something new?

Basically new missions. I don't think Sisters have had any before (but Marines are onto their second book of them!).

In the 3E Witch Hunter codex they had a mission called "Defend The Shrine".

You place the shrine in the middle of the table, the defender can set up units anywhere within 12" of the shrine.
The attacker splits his forces into 2 roughly equal forces and can deploy within 12" from the short table edges.

Then the Battle Missions book came and Spheeezeee Meehhhreeeneeezzz got All-Round Defence.
You place an objective in the middle, the defender deploys within 12" of it, enemy must deploy more than 18" from the centre of the table...


Oh how GW loves to twist that rusty fork into our sides...

I believe Defend the Shrine got a reprint in the Sept '11 WD as well. I don't have my codex with me to check though.

Either way, Defend the Shrine was a lot like the 3rd Ed Rulebook mission "Meatgrinder", just with an objective added.

Pretty exciting to see GW use this digital codex path to add army lists and supplemental army lists to forces that really need them. It's pretty fantastic to be honest and something that really sparks new interest in the hobby.

About the cover picture though, I can't see where all the laudation is coming from. The pose is just awful and she seems to be on steroids or HGH atleast judging from the facial features, all the while maintaining a bikini model slim waist. Additionally, even if the Adepta Sororitas officially sanctioned wargear includes triple D breast implants, I fail to see why the breastplate needs to have cups in it. Finally, the woman at the back appears to be the front one's clone (down to the same officially sanctioned mascara that they use), but if that's a thing in the background that I've missed then I apologise.

Sisters confirmed to be being released on all fronts on the 19th:

Matthew Austin So is the 19th the release date for all versions, or just the BL one?

Games Workshop: Digital Editions Hi Matthew, It's for all of them.
There will be an interactive edition on the iBookstore, and an eBook edition on Blacklibrary.com

- Eddie

Cool art. Hope Canoness' become better with more options...

 Therion wrote:
Pretty exciting to see GW use this digital codex path to add army lists and supplemental army lists to forces that really need them. It's pretty fantastic to be honest and something that really sparks new interest in the hobby.

About the cover picture though, I can't see where all the laudation is coming from. The pose is just awful and she seems to be on steroids or HGH atleast judging from the facial features, all the while maintaining a bikini model slim waist. Additionally, even if the Adepta Sororitas officially sanctioned wargear includes triple D breast implants, I fail to see why the breastplate needs to have cups in it. Finally, the woman at the back appears to be the front one's clone (down to the same officially sanctioned mascara that they use), but if that's a thing in the background that I've missed then I apologise.

I don't see whats the problem with having cups in the breastplate. 40k Armor is about being beautiful. This is 40k, where gothic, over the top armor is basically the way they roll. Strong, fit women are thin. Have you ever looked at army women?


They are women. A way to make that clear to the players and actually making them different from the astartes is by having them don such armor.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
And here's the cover:

Okay, maybe I'm a bad person, but that picture totally makes me think the new Sisters theme song should be this:

I spend my money on the regular miracles
just like you like me like everybody else
upon the sun looking sad and beautiful
just like you like me like everybody else

when it gets loud, I turn it up
(shake it like a bad girl up in harlem)
when it's too hot, I light it up
light it up yeah smoke em if you got em

What they're lighting up and smoking, in this case, ain't cigarettes but heretics....


The video is here if you don't have the song downloaded, but just listen and ignore the images: Just think of the three Sisters on that cover striding forward through the fire with bolter, flamer, and melta blazing in all directions.

Therion wrote:About the cover picture though, I can't see where all the laudation is coming from. The pose is just awful and she seems to be on steroids or HGH atleast judging from the facial features, all the while maintaining a bikini model slim waist. Additionally, even if the Adepta Sororitas officially sanctioned wargear includes triple D breast implants, I fail to see why the breastplate needs to have cups in it. Finally, the woman at the back appears to be the front one's clone (down to the same officially sanctioned mascara that they use), but if that's a thing in the background that I've missed then I apologise.

Battle Sisters have always looked that way. The Orders of the Sisterhood are monastic convents that practice a certain uniformity amongst their members, and in their role as living symbols of the Church Militant's might they do aim for an "angelic appearance". As for the cupped breastplate, although there is no official explanation yet, common theories are that they are the result of either the Ecclesiarchy attempting to circumvent the Decree Passive's rule of having "no men under arms", the mad High Lord Vandire's personal preferences, or quite simply a practice of the ancient sect of Daughters of the Emperor (basically Proto-SoB) on San Leor.

As teban mentioned, they fit nicely to the rest of 40k's visual aesthetics that are dominated by flying cathedral starships, chainsaw-blades and giant pauldrons.

I do agree that the waist looks a bit too thin on this piece of art (given that there should be a suit of powered armour underneath that corset, with up to an inch of ceramite plating plus an undersuit of electrically motivated fiber bundles), but as that is pretty much my only criticism and as the rest looks very badass, I can certainly live with it.

 Lynata wrote:

Therion wrote:About the cover picture though, I can't see where all the laudation is coming from. The pose is just awful and she seems to be on steroids or HGH atleast judging from the facial features, all the while maintaining a bikini model slim waist. Additionally, even if the Adepta Sororitas officially sanctioned wargear includes triple D breast implants, I fail to see why the breastplate needs to have cups in it. Finally, the woman at the back appears to be the front one's clone (down to the same officially sanctioned mascara that they use), but if that's a thing in the background that I've missed then I apologise.

Battle Sisters have always looked that way. The Orders of the Sisterhood are monastic convents that practice a certain uniformity amongst their members, and in their role as living symbols of the Church Militant's might they do aim for an "angelic appearance". As for the cupped breastplate, although there is no official explanation yet, common theories are that they are the result of either the Ecclesiarchy attempting to circumvent the Decree Passive's rule of having "no men under arms", the mad High Lord Vandire's personal preferences, or quite simply a practice of the ancient sect of Daughters of the Emperor (basically Proto-SoB) on San Leor.

As teban mentioned, they fit nicely to the rest of 40k's visual aesthetics that are dominated by flying cathedral starships, chainsaw-blades and giant pauldrons.

I do agree that the waist looks a bit too thin on this piece of art (given that there should be a suit of powered armour underneath that corset, with up to an inch of ceramite plating plus an undersuit of electrically motivated fiber bundles), but as that is pretty much my only criticism and as the rest looks very badass, I can certainly live with it.

Just equate it to sci fi and call it a day, stuff doens't have to work, it has to look good

A space wizard did it.

Ha, anybody else notice that all three weapons of the Holy Trinity are present on that artwork? A nice touch.

 Troike wrote:
Ha, anybody else notice that all three weapons of the Holy Trinity are present on that artwork? A nice touch.

I did. I also got a Charlie's Angel vibe, but that might just be me...


Charlie's Sororitas?

That artwork looks real sweet.

I think the name change is probably due to legal reasons. Its IP and since they don't have models it would be a good idea to get a more protected title for the army.

Does the one on the left with the helmet have a different shoulderpad? Might just be with it being in the background but it looks circular like a guardsmans shoulderpad. Nah, probably just looking for some change in ascetic to hint at new plastics.

 S'jet wrote:
Cool art. Hope Canoness' become better with more options...

From previous experiences I've learnt to expect the absolute worst that could possible happen when it comes to GW and SoB (or would that be AS now?).

I'd say it's safe to assume Celestine will cost 100pts more and that's the only rules change we will see. Copy paste of the worst warlord traits from the rulebook wouldn't surprise me either.

Pessimism is the road that stops just short of disappointment .

 Nevelon wrote:


Charlie's Sororitas?

Definitely not just you.

I may actually buy this, and I'm pretty much done with 40k since... 4th?

Totalwar1402 wrote:I think the name change is probably due to legal reasons. Its IP and since they don't have models it would be a good idea to get a more protected title for the army.

But they do have models! You can go straight to the GW website and order them without any issues!
Though even if they did not have minis, it would still be protected material due to all the novels, the comics, the computer games, RPGs, etc.

Honestly, when it comes to names, GW should be more concerned about "Space Marines" - as unlike with the SoB that one is not original content.

Nevelon wrote:Charlie's Sororitas?

Once upon a time, there were three little girls who went to the Schola Progenium
And they were each assigned very hazardous duties.
<images of Dominica , Katherine and Silvana dancing for Goge Vandire, tasting his food, massaging his shoulders>
But I took them away from all that, and now they work for me.
My name is Sebastian.

 Lynata wrote:

Therion wrote:About the cover picture though, I can't see where all the laudation is coming from. The pose is just awful and she seems to be on steroids or HGH atleast judging from the facial features, all the while maintaining a bikini model slim waist. Additionally, even if the Adepta Sororitas officially sanctioned wargear includes triple D breast implants, I fail to see why the breastplate needs to have cups in it. Finally, the woman at the back appears to be the front one's clone (down to the same officially sanctioned mascara that they use), but if that's a thing in the background that I've missed then I apologise.

Battle Sisters have always looked that way. The Orders of the Sisterhood are monastic convents that practice a certain uniformity amongst their members, and in their role as living symbols of the Church Militant's might they do aim for an "angelic appearance". As for the cupped breastplate, although there is no official explanation yet, common theories are that they are the result of either the Ecclesiarchy attempting to circumvent the Decree Passive's rule of having "no men under arms", the mad High Lord Vandire's personal preferences, or quite simply a practice of the ancient sect of Daughters of the Emperor (basically Proto-SoB) on San Leor.

As teban mentioned, they fit nicely to the rest of 40k's visual aesthetics that are dominated by flying cathedral starships, chainsaw-blades and giant pauldrons.

I do agree that the waist looks a bit too thin on this piece of art (given that there should be a suit of powered armour underneath that corset, with up to an inch of ceramite plating plus an undersuit of electrically motivated fiber bundles), but as that is pretty much my only criticism and as the rest looks very badass, I can certainly live with it.

What a wonderful response. Thank you. My annoyance with it is a general annoyance with torso armour with cups. Women don't need cups for breasts to be able to fit inside armour, and in general it's strange an armour would be designed specifically for women. Additionally, I considered the aesthetic factor odd because nuns aren't stereotypically supposed to be sexy or known for making conscious attempts in affecting the opposite sex. Futuristic breastplates with cups would therefore fit renegades, cultists, or even ordinary humans a lot better than nuns who I believe don't have sexual relations with men outside their field of employment. I could live with an explanation that the person who designed the Sororitas armour in the 40K fiction is in fact a twisted, perverted male bishop -type, and the women who actually wear the armour despise it.

As far as the gothic 40K appearance is concerned, it certainly fits the classic Imperial style. On the other hand, some people have raised good points about 40K's supposedly grim gothic look not being as dominant anymore considering how badly the new Tau and Necrons (and of course Eldar) fit it. The tabletops look a lot less grim dark and a lot more generic sci-fi these days.

So I stay with my original assessment. I don't like the pose nor the face, and I generally don't like the cupped breastplates because I'm not twelve anymore. That doesn't mean the Adepta Sororita cannot be good looking, but I'd rather leave more for the imagination.

I also sometimes wonder where the 3+ armour save is coming from. By the looks of it, she is wearing a mix of cloth, leather and plated cups and shoulderpads. In most areas the armour is only a few millimetres thick, and some areas aren't covered at all. I guess that's good enough to stop a Predator MBT shooting you with its turret autocannon square in the chest.

Despite appearances, that's still Power Armor and is still made of some high dense, but lightweight, materials. She just happens to wear somethings that are made of cloth or leather over it.

That or the Emperor did it.

I'm stoked. I hope it's actually better. And I hope this isn't our "6E" update... like a real book plus models would be nice.

 TheKbob wrote:
I'm stoked. I hope it's actually better. And I hope this isn't our "6E" update... like a real book plus models would be nice.

This is A update, not THE update as far as I know. I'll reserve and speculation if/when we find out more.

Honestly, I fully expect a second update, only with plastics and a real book to be coming, it's just a matter of when.

Troike wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
mostly the use of lipstick

Yeah, that bugs me as well. The website store models are painted like it too.

They're not only highly disciplined soldiers, but insanely devoted fanatics who make a point of forgoing any self-indulgence. I'm not seeing how lipstick would be considered something that they'd use.

Come on, it's not lipstick, … it's just that they come from a planet where people have a different pigmentation than we do !

Nevelon wrote:At least two of the non-militant orders are already represented in the command squad, where you can have a hospitaler and dialogus. Not that anyone takes them, as that would require a cannoness, but there you go. Not sure how they could work in the Famolus ones.

They could bump them up to be more then just members of a command squad, as actual ICs in their own right. Depends what they want to focus the army on. It's already morphed into C:WH and back, so who knows what's in store this time. We'll find out in a couple of weeks.

They could possibly add the sabines as infiltration expert or something, but that's very unlikely, as that would require a new model.

Lynata wrote:Also, one of the White Dwarf issues following the 5E Minidex released had three missions for SoB, too. I remember because of the accompanying fluff piece stating that the Sisters exterminated several Marine Chapters in the past.

Really ? I never heard of it.

Therion wrote:So I stay with my original assessment. I don't like the pose nor the face, and I generally don't like the cupped breastplates because I'm not twelve anymore. That doesn't mean the Adepta Sororita cannot be good looking, but I'd rather leave more for the imagination.

I also sometimes wonder where the 3+ armour save is coming from. By the looks of it, she is wearing a mix of cloth, leather and plated cups and shoulderpads. In most areas the armour is only a few millimetres thick, and some areas aren't covered at all. I guess that's good enough to stop a Predator MBT shooting you with its turret autocannon square in the chest.

You might like to have a look at those old official artworks :
http://andreauderzo.deviantart.com/art/Retributors-42915169
http://andreauderzo.deviantart.com/art/Dominions-42895226
http://lolcatsneverdies.deviantart.com/art/Sisters-of-battle-42915291
Does that look 3+ armor save enough to you ? There's still the mandatory haircut, though, but it's perfectly okay with me. Why not ?
I really liked the way this guy draws them, they do look armored like walking tanks, as they should . Especially, the Retributor looks like she DESERVE Rending !

Does that look 3+ armor save enough to you ? There's still the mandatory haircut, though, but it's perfectly okay with me. Why not ?
I really liked the way this guy draws them, they do look armored like walking tanks, as they should . Especially, the Retributor looks like she DESERVE Rending !

That art you linked is certainly better, hence my criticism of the new cover art. Those older pictures still have ridiculous cups in the breastplates though. I'm not kidding when I say it looks stupid. Even if the objective is to make them 'hot' for male collectors and hobbyists, my point is that they'd look better (hotter) with plausible breastplates. If the only way an artist or a miniature designer can make an androgynous- or male looking sculpt or a drawing feminine instead is by adding incredibly large breasts to it, he or she is simply incompetent.

As a 28 year old white male I like the sexy space nuns. Don't take the sexy away.
If you take it away then we must call in Justin Timberlake to bring it back.

It's not impossible that the breastcups on the armour are purely ornamental , stuck onto a flat plate functional bit of chest armour

(to emphasis they are female and thus exempt from the 'no man' decree)

considering the amount of embellishment everything in the Imperium gets it fits as well as any other explanation

 Therion wrote:

Does that look 3+ armor save enough to you ? There's still the mandatory haircut, though, but it's perfectly okay with me. Why not ?
I really liked the way this guy draws them, they do look armored like walking tanks, as they should . Especially, the Retributor looks like she DESERVE Rending !

That art you linked is certainly better, hence my criticism of the new cover art. Those older pictures still have ridiculous cups in the breastplates though. I'm not kidding when I say it looks stupid. Even if the objective is to make them 'hot' for male collectors and hobbyists, my point is that they'd look better (hotter) with plausible breastplates. If the only way an artist or a miniature designer can make an androgynous- or male looking sculpt or a drawing feminine instead is by adding incredibly large breasts to it, he or she is simply incompetent.

You know its probably that way on purpose in terms of fluff since they cannot be mistaken for men under arms for the Ecclesiarchy. That's a big no-no.

Therion wrote:My annoyance with it is a general annoyance with torso armour with cups. Women don't need cups for breasts to be able to fit inside armour, and in general it's strange an armour would be designed specifically for women. Additionally, I considered the aesthetic factor odd because nuns aren't stereotypically supposed to be sexy or known for making conscious attempts in affecting the opposite sex. Futuristic breastplates with cups would therefore fit renegades, cultists, or even ordinary humans a lot better than nuns who I believe don't have sexual relations with men outside their field of employment. I could live with an explanation that the person who designed the Sororitas armour in the 40K fiction is in fact a twisted, perverted male bishop -type, and the women who actually wear the armour despise it.

I wouldn't say they despise it (given their lifestyle, I think they would be utterly unaware of sexuality as a whole and simply not "get" it!), but yeah, that twisted, perverted male would be Goge Vandire - the man who brought this cult into the Imperium and made them his bodyguards.

I would consider the Sisters' Angel-pattern PA as one of the very, very few examples of female armour "done right". Yes, you have breast cups, but it's still a far cry from the persisting standard of chainmail bikinis and belly-free breastplates. This one actually looks professional and "military", rather than just being eyecandy for a male onlooker.

I also think it may be 40k, in its usual tongue-in-cheek manner, either making fun of or riding along with the so-called nunsploitation. Yes, nuns may not be supposed to be sexy, but there certainly exists a fetish for it!

Therion wrote:I also sometimes wonder where the 3+ armour save is coming from. By the looks of it, she is wearing a mix of cloth, leather and plated cups and shoulderpads. In most areas the armour is only a few millimetres thick, and some areas aren't covered at all. I guess that's good enough to stop a Predator MBT shooting you with its turret autocannon square in the chest.

Space Marine armour plating was said in the 2E Codex Angels of Death to be "up to an inch thick", so power armour doesn't have to be bulky, it's just a common perception because Marines are already bulky by nature, and their armour includes a ton of optional gadgets that the Sororitas version has been explicitly mentioned (in 3E Codex Witch Hunters) to lack. Their armour is basically a "bare bones" version entirely focused on armoured protection, whereas the Marines also have drug dispensers, biomonitors, waste recyclers, advanced strength augmentation, etc.

But yeah, as I said, I agree that the waist looks too thin - Hybrid Son has linked a number of artworks that are more along my own thoughts too.

Oh, and you're quite welcome!

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:I really liked the way this guy draws them

Gal. But yes, her Sisters are awesome.

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:It's not impossible that the breastcups on the armour are purely ornamental , stuck onto a flat plate functional bit of chest armour
(to emphasis they are female and thus exempt from the 'no man' decree)
considering the amount of embellishment everything in the Imperium gets it fits as well as any other explanation

We actually speculated about this a fair bit in the Sisters Wishlist thread!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/390/554335.page#6110752

We came to some pretty funny theories.

andrewm9 wrote:

 Therion wrote:

Does that look 3+ armor save enough to you ? There's still the mandatory haircut, though, but it's perfectly okay with me. Why not ?
I really liked the way this guy draws them, they do look armored like walking tanks, as they should . Especially, the Retributor looks like she DESERVE Rending !

That art you linked is certainly better, hence my criticism of the new cover art. Those older pictures still have ridiculous cups in the breastplates though. I'm not kidding when I say it looks stupid. Even if the objective is to make them 'hot' for male collectors and hobbyists, my point is that they'd look better (hotter) with plausible breastplates. If the only way an artist or a miniature designer can make an androgynous- or male looking sculpt or a drawing feminine instead is by adding incredibly large breasts to it, he or she is simply incompetent.

You know its probably that way on purpose in terms of fluff since they cannot be mistaken for men under arms for the Ecclesiarchy. That's a big no-no.

I don't find that explanation or theory plausible. If you'd mistake a Sister of Battle in Power Armour as a man without the breastcups, you'll still mistake them for men with the breastcups. Clearly after every battle a ministry officlal has to conduct an inspection of every Adepta Sororitas warrior to check that they are in fact female and not male. There might be male infiltrators.

Since we're now at the point of trying to imagine unbelievable background explanations for the fact that the Imperial wonderwomen all have triple D breastcups I think I'll withdraw from the subject so you can all go back to discussing the codex.

Therion wrote:Those older pictures still have ridiculous cups in the breastplates though. I'm not kidding when I say it looks stupid.

Well, at least we are spared the worse; most ridiculous (gaps)… nipple armor ! Hopefully only the gayest batman movie (not intended as an insult, just a little poke toward openly gay Joel Schumacher starting the movie with close-ups of nipple armor, crotch and bottoms of both Batman and Robin… ) and blood angel do nipple armor.

Lynata wrote:Gal.

Andrea is a woman ? That's usually a man's name in Italy.


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Well, actually the DeviantArt profile explicitly mention him as “male”.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Therion wrote:Those older pictures still have ridiculous cups in the breastplates though. I'm not kidding when I say it looks stupid.

Well, at least we are spared the worse; most ridiculous (gaps)… nipple armor ! Hopefully only the gayest batman movie (not intended as an insult, just a little poke toward openly gay Joel Schumacher starting the movie with close-ups of nipple armor, crotch and bottoms of both Batman and Robin… ) and blood angel do nipple armor.

Lynata wrote:Gal.

Andrea is a woman ? That's usually a man's name in Italy.


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Well, actually the DeviantArt profile explicitly mention him as “male”.

yes, Andrea is a dude, and yes, Andrea is a masculine name in Italy...
definitely one of my favorite artists going, right now...
his PP stuff, and his FFG stuff too, is so good...

now i'm off to see if the pre-order sample is up for download yet...

cheers
jah

Really, the only reason why the SoB have "boobie" armor is that you wouldn't be able to tell they were ladies on the battlefield, otherwise.

It's artistic exaggeration for 28mm scale that translates into the artwork.

Wow! Sorry about that - I was going solely by the name, and in Germany it would definitively be a female. The male form would be "Andreas".

Learning never stops, I guess. Thanks for clearing up that misconception! Still remains my fav artist as far as SoB are concerned.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
I'd say it's safe to assume Celestine will cost 100pts more and that's the only rules change we will see.

Heavy flamers and evisverators are also outstanding issues. And Cruddace said that they made minor points "tweaks". Note the plural.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
Copy paste of the worst warlord traits from the rulebook wouldn't surprise me either.

That's not how warlord traits work. The codex ones are unique.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
Pessimism is the road that stops just short of disappointment .

It can also veer into irrationality. Really, we've got no sign that this will be rubbish, beyond the logic of "oh they were under-supported in the past, therefore nothing good will ever happen to them ever". There are, however, signs that it'll be allright. Just look at the effort they've put into this, original artwork, new fluff, new rules, tweaking old rules... They haven't been lazy about it and just copied and pasted the White Dward codex, which is a good sign.

If you want to be sceptical, then it's best to reserve judgement until the thing is out. That way you still aren't giving yourslef any expectations that could be let down, but you're also not making yourself gloomy for no reason.

 Lynata wrote:
Still remains my fav artist as far as SoB are concerned.

What's more, the Facebook guy said that more artwork had been updated, so there'll probably be more artwork by him in the codex. Looking forward to seeing it.

 Troike wrote:
Just look at the effort they've put into this, original artwork, new fluff, new rules, tweaking old rules... They haven't been lazy about it and just copied and pasted the White Dward codex, which is a good sign.

Original artwork - <check>
New fluff - ....... Where?
New Rules - Warlord traits and ...........?
Tweaking old rules - .......Where?

If you have read it or there is a place that has some of the above info feel free to pm me where I can read it.

What information do we actually have that is accurate?

This is from the facebook.:
This was Eddie's comment to this earler: "It's certainly based on the White Dwarf Sisters of Battle Codex, but with new additions to bring it in line with the new books. Things like Warlords table, new Ecclesiarchy Relics and an Altar of War.
There's also new artwork and an expanded background section"

As far as I know everything else is quoted of unofficial sources.

What we do know is the cover, that it's the old WD dex and some added stuff to bring it in line with the new books (translation: Added some stuff so we can slap a $40 pricetag on it).
So Warlord table, wargear and "Altar of War"? Probably the old battle mission from the 3E Witchunter Codex.

If anything it sounds more like this will be a mini Iyanden codex. Copy paste WD rules and fluff, 1 page for warlord traits, 1 page for relics and a special mission. New fluff? Probably more about how the SoB got murdered by imperial forces to protect them from corruption.


Everything else is just hearsay, heck even the fb stuff wouldn't hold in court.

"Altar of War" is GW's collection of army specific missions. You're right, it's likely reprints.

However, I doubt the Sisters are going to get horribly murdered, they have a tendency to have that mostly happen in other books.

Odd considering Matyrdom is a them of theirs when you think about it.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
Everything else is just hearsay, heck even the fb stuff wouldn't hold in court.

Watch out folks, we have an internet lawyer over here.


We are aware that it is hearsay. If we only went off of verified fact, these threads would be a lot more boring.

And since when do we take news and rumors to "court"?

Also, all four of these things are described in the facebook comment/wd announce:


Original artwork - <check>
New fluff - ....... Where? (expanded background section)
New Rules - Warlord traits and ...........? (New wargear)
Tweaking old rules - .......Where? (Original WD announcement saying they were being updated for 6th)

I always wonder why Sisters are the only army we never seem to be allowed to be optimistic about. Things have never been half as bad as the internet claims they will be and yet we can't show any positive signs.

To quote someone on /tg/:

Hmm... I've been away for a while, but this might just tempt me back

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I always wonder why Sisters are the only army we never seem to be allowed to be optimistic about. Things have never been half as bad as the internet claims they will be and yet we can't show any positive signs.

To quote someone on /tg/:

Here is another one:

I might just pick up some SoB allies for the funsies, instead of IG. I've always thought they were an interesting army.

Good thing I picked up a bunch second hand for resale. Looks like the value is rising.

 Therion wrote:
...and in general it's strange an armour would be designed specifically for women.

No, it's strange that people still don't get that armour should be designed specifically for women. It wouldn't look like this, but poorly fitted armour designed for a man is bad for combat effectiveness.

 Therion wrote:
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So I stay with my original assessment. I don't like the pose nor the face, and I generally don't like the cupped breastplates because I'm not twelve anymore.
.

You stopped liking boobs at 12? That's when I started liking boobs. Love this artwork, looks amazing, and looking forward to the update.

The boobie armor haters don't get, it is Imperial propaganda! Believe in the emperor and thay femininity cup shall Runneth over.

Hope they will make some plastic figures!

Don't want to ruin your fun guys, but I don't think the whole "price fixes YAY" movement gets it right.

Sure, heavy flamers will probably drop from 20 to 10, but it ALSO means that heavy bolters will probably go from the steal they are in 5, to the normal SM 10.
And lets be honest, dirt cheap heavy bolters was part of the reason they worked so well to begin with, especially the rets.

Hopefully the "new codex" will encourage new playstyles, but not ruin the existing ones. (say, if the HB goes up to normal 10, but the cost per sister drops to 10-11, it will balance each other out when you take only a few HB, will be a bit more costly to spam like they used to, but will be more attractive to field other guns)

But the main thing I wonder about, is how they "fixed" the faith system, as we all know the current "d6 no matter what" does not work, its tons in small games, luck of the dice in medium, and never enough at large games.


None of it will be worth anything without new models though...

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

What information do we actually have that is accurate?

Well, obviously there's the White Dwarf ad that you can see in the OP, and theGW Facebook posts. Our own evildrcheese also spoke to Cruddace at games day and got some more tidbits. These sources are the only places that we're getting our information from, and they're all from GW employees.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
As far as I know everything else is quoted of unofficial sources.

Hardly. White Dwarf and the Digital Editions Facebook page are both indisuptably official sources. And the chat with Cruddace, while not official, is certainly solid evidence. Cruddace would be in a position to know, obviously. Again, these are the only places that we're really drawing info from, they're all pretty trustworthy.

 pretre wrote:
Tweaking old rules - .......Where? (Original WD announcement saying they were being updated for 6th) Also Cruddace said that faith was looked at to try and make it scale better, as well as some points tweaks

You pretty much covered everything. Though I've made one small addition, in italics.

 BoomWolf wrote:
None of it will be worth anything without new models though...

I disagree. The improved gameplay granted by the scaling faith (though obviously we don't know how successful they were with this) and warlord traits will be welcome boons. The points tweaks could also come out in our favour overall, rather than against us. We'll have to wait and see to have a definite answer on that, though I think that overall we had more problems than cheese on that front, so hopefully it'll be a net gain. In addition, all of the positive reactions that this is getting aren't to be disregarded. Just look at how many people are taking an interest in the Sisters because of this, it'll certainly be good for their sales and publicity. Likewise, GW is going to see this hype. Just on that digital editions Facebook page, they said that they'd been inundated with questions about the new codex. There could well be a spike in sales of the models too, which is definetely something that they'll take note of.

Sure, new models would be great, and ultimately the long-term goal, but let's not disregard the benefits granted by this digital codex.

 BoomWolf wrote:
None of it will be worth anything without new models though...

Depends. If we get a 15/25 Relic that turns the armor save of the bearer and it's unit into a 3++ (2++ if you have a 2+ save) Shield of Faith armor, that will definitely be worth something, even though not as much as new models.
Return of the 3++ sisters and 2++ canoness ! Spirit of the martyr ! . Take that, Heldrakes !
Also, some Relic that makes psyker auto-Peril would be awesome against eldars, tyranids and tzeentch !

Its not new models, but even I'm feeling positive about this. I'm going to buy it without hesitation.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Its not new models, but even I'm feeling positive about this. I'm going to buy it without hesitation.

This. I already own the WD Codex. But even if there aren't any new things in this digital release (which is false anyway), I would still buy this if nothing more than to show GW that there is demand for SoB AS stuff.

I don't like the boob-cups either, but really, it's just an aesthetic thing. I'd prefer something closer to a gothic breastplate style, as that would represent my vision of Sisters better.

Something like an ornate, Fleur-decorated version of one of this, perhaps with a more prominent chest and hip if you had to make it more feminine (But no boob-cups).

Heh. One very positive thing about the name change: a less controversial acronym.

I've been hesitant to buy my girlfriend the Sisters she wanted for her birthday. With this codex coming out a week or so before the big day, I think she and I will both be overjoyed with this release.

Looks like I will be getting some sister allies for my Templars.

 Squidmanlolz wrote:
I've been hesitant to buy my girlfriend the Sisters she wanted for her birthday. With this codex coming out a week or so before the big day, I think she and I will both be overjoyed with this release.

Wait till she sees how much an Sisters army is going to cost.

 Breotan wrote:

 Squidmanlolz wrote:
I've been hesitant to buy my girlfriend the Sisters she wanted for her birthday. With this codex coming out a week or so before the big day, I think she and I will both be overjoyed with this release.

Wait till she sees how much an Sisters army is going to cost.

I know Fingers crossed for a possible price-cut and/or switch to plastic. I personally like metal minis, but the Sisters need to get some new sculpts.
If the new Sisters are less competitive than DA, I'll probably just buy her some DA, maybe 'Nids in hopes that their new codex will be good.

I just noticed something...is that sister wearing lipstick? Is that a thing?

 Troike wrote:
Heh. One very positive thing about the name change: a less controversial acronym.

Going from mean SoBs to nice Adepta Sororita's? No way a little pluralization of AS is going to get people in trouble with the filters a/o Mods, or at least spawn some off-color jokes.

Particularly given the army we are talking about...

 Revarien wrote:
Looks to be Anna Steinbauer art. Beautiful stuff!

I know this is a stop gap release, but that also means we'll be getting something bigger/better down the road. <3 it!

Went to her site, found it. I guess you're right.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
You stopped liking boobs at 12? That's when I started liking boobs. Love this artwork, looks amazing, and looking forward to the update.

^ THIS ^

I might sculpt larger breast armour because -

1. It looks great.
2. It'll annoy the puritanical boob haters.
3. See #1.

with digital codex's can one print them out if you buy one?


I ask as I've never bothered buying one before due to having no tablet and an annoying phone.

However sisters may finally tempt me!

It will make putting my old models on eBay slightly more long winded - Sisters of Battle / Adepta Sororitas (whatever)

I like the art style but not the pose. Too 'girly with a gun' rather than warrior nun for my liking.

Good to see SoB getting some attention again.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Therion wrote:
...and in general it's strange an armour would be designed specifically for women.

No, it's strange that people still don't get that armour should be designed specifically for women. It wouldn't look like this, but poorly fitted armour designed for a man is bad for combat effectiveness.

So what are the characteristics and qualities that a vest or a breastplate needs to have to be designed for women? You're seriously saying armour needs special models for women, or think that anyone would actually do it? What's the difference between a vest intended for a 135lbs 168cm man and one intended for a 135lbs 168cm woman? Please explain why we need armour designed specifically for women based on the fitting concern that you raised?

PS: Height and weight is the bantamweight limit, which for example TUF season 18 that has both male and female fighters uses.

Real war fighters:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/28/article-2269466-11A58566000005DC-478_634x510.jpg
I'm twelve fighters:
http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/732822-bigthumbnail.jpg

Well as far as I am concerned, something, anything will be better than nothing !

 tyrannosaurus wrote:

 Therion wrote:
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So I stay with my original assessment. I don't like the pose nor the face, and I generally don't like the cupped breastplates because I'm not twelve anymore.
.

You stopped liking boobs at 12? That's when I started liking boobs. Love this artwork, looks amazing, and looking forward to the update.

Poor guy, at least he can probably adopt instead !