My vote is on the Leman Russ tank. This is the most hideous creation of the 41st Millennium. I can't justify buying them on how they look. I feel embarrassed putting that on the table. I can't think of anything that can be don't to it to make it look good.

Not old models from the 90's, those were obviously horrible looking models. I mean current generation models.

What? The Russ at least has some character. Check out the darkshroud. So...ugly...

Dreadknight

That new crazy Tau creation just looks rediculous. (The one with 1,286 guns)

We talking recent? Taurox, Dreadknight, and the new AdMech googlebots take the cake for me.

Worst model currently sold as part of the game? Deffbuggy, Rrrrrrrrrragnar blackmane, the diologus, Mutilators, etc.

Any finecaat

Recent, taurox , Dreadknight, SW fliers, Logan on sled,

cypher

Taurox for sure. SM flyers are pretty lame too. But a special mention must be given to this :

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120101098_DADarkshroud01.jpg

First time I saw it, I was like : Lul. Wat?

This type of question is pretty unfair if you go back too far in time obviously. GW's quality has increased immeasurably over the years compared to the old days where everything was huge chunks of metal.

So for RECENT models my nominations would be:

Vehicles:
WINNER: Astra Militarum Taurox - The treads are wrong, the front grill is wrong, the weapon mounts are wrong. There's just nothing cool or good about this vehicle
HONORABLE MENTION: Space Wolves Stormfang Gunship - There is simply no way that even in the 41st Grimdark Millennium that thing is capable of flight. Not even in a 12 yr old's dream.

Infantry:
WINNER: Space Marines Centurions - If you were to tell me the concept is "A Space Marine wearing a supplementary suit of power armor" then I would not for the life of me picture something like this. The models don't look like they are capable of walking. They have huge weapons mounted to their arms, yet they still have "hands" which clearly are not capable of grabbing anything due to the weapons that are in the way.
HONORABLE MENTION: Ork Painboy - The pose is really bad. The sculpt on the head is horrible. The jawline is WAY too exaggerated even by the "Heroic" scale that GW uses.

Most of the new Cult Mechanicus stuff. I remember seeing all the Skitarii stuff and was blown back by it, how they looked and how well the balance between tech and cloth was hit. Then I saw the CM stuff, and I remember thinking "... That's it?"- The models doesn't really seem to fit together, and each unit has their own problems... The big things are not mechanical enough, and have a downright goofy design, the Electro Priests all squat a bit too much for my liking, the treadheads are just a hunk of detail with no distinguishing features, and the Magos is just so cartoony I can't take it seriously.

Also, Crisis Suits. Love what they represent, hate the models.

 The Wise Dane wrote:
Most of the new Cult Mechanicus stuff. I remember seeing all the Skitarii stuff and was blown back by it, how they looked and how well the balance between tech and cloth was hit. Then I saw the CM stuff, and I remember thinking "... That's it?"- The models doesn't really seem to fit together, and each unit has their own problems... The big things are not mechanical enough, and have a downright goofy design, the Electro Priests all squat a bit too much for my liking, the treadheads are just a hunk of detail with no distinguishing features, and the Magos is just so cartoony I can't take it seriously.

Also, Crisis Suits. Love what they represent, hate the models.

Nah, the Mechanius is great. They're supposed to look like things out of science fiction from the late 1800s to early 1930s.

The Mechanicus' whole feel is end of the 19th century/early 20th. Hence all the chemical weapons. Hell radium is a reference to John Carter of Mars!

With regard to Cult Mechanicus, I just can't take the Battle Servitors seriously. Probably because whenever I see this:



All I can think of is this:

I hope I've got the right name for the model here;
Lucius the Eternal? That one where if he gets killed the killer gets possessed by him?
Always looked like he was carrying skipping ropes to me!

The Dreadknight has a baby-carrier strapped to its chest. And there's a baby dreadknight inside it - how adorable!

I don't mind the dreadnight or the Taurox. Ive seen some cool Taurox conversions with tires.

I still cant stand the Leman Russ, its a knock off of a first world war tank design...in the 41st millennium. it doesn't scream sci-fi to me. it doesn't even scream historical modeling to me.

The Mutilator. The biggest abomination finecast has ever produced.

Vehicle - Oh dear Lord the taurox day and night.

Character - Abaddon, he has no arms for feths sake.

Generally - GW Crisis suits, boy they look bad.

Special mention - MUTILATORS.

Guys. Guys.

Just stop, and remember this exists.



This is the point that even GW stopped and looked at itself in confusion.

"Are we being serious?"
"I don't even know."

I think we have a winner.

Lol, yeah santa is bad but I still hate the leman russ. thank god I don't play space wolves though


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I just noticed her saggy utters. this is ridiculous

Gorka/Morkanaut is the worst Ork model with its unorky build (looks too machined and not enough ramshackle), weird arm and leg placement, train snowplow looking skirt (and when it opens it looks even more horrible), and ugly head. Bad in game rules and the fact that it cost $10 less than the infinitely more awesome Stompa model which dwarfs the Derpanauts.

As Murrdox mentioned the new Painboy looks terrible and has an ugly head sculpt.

 Vankraken wrote:

As Murrdox mentioned the new Painboy looks terrible and has an ugly head sculpt.

Good lord, it's like if the Crimson Chin was an ork.

For the Orks I'm going to agree with Nauts being the worst. In that same sense Vankraken mentioned. They seem too fresh from a line factory rather then a cobbled together ramshackle vehicle that Orks make. I also want to see our Deffkoptas updated. They be too old now.

For relatively recent releases, Dreadknight and Centurions are definitely my choice.

Logan's space sled gets runner-up for stupid (despite being at least half-decently executed).

Honorable mentions go to Stormfang and most of the AM line, mostly 'cause FW did it right and then GW needed to make stupid versions of the same things.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Guys. Guys.

Just stop, and remember this exists.



This is the point that even GW stopped and looked at itself in confusion.

"Are we being serious?"
"I don't even know."

And there we go, thread done. Not even Nagash can top that. This is one of the worst models that GW has ever envisioned. Not only is it an absurd concept, but its execution is comical as well. It just doesn't work on any level. It's so bad, it wouldn't even work on the cover of a metal album.

Excuse me while I go throw up

Are you saying the winners of the Iditerod don't have their sled dogs running in different directions?

Yeah, sorry, nothing compares to the horror that is the Logan-sled.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Guys. Guys.

Just stop, and remember this exists.



This is the point that even GW stopped and looked at itself in confusion.

"Are we being serious?"
"I don't even know."

And there we go, thread done. Not even Nagash can top that. This is one of the worst models that GW has ever envisioned. Not only is it an absurd concept, but its execution is comical as well. It just doesn't work on any level. It's so bad, it wouldn't even work on the cover of a metal album.

Excuse me while I go throw up

Okay I'm going to defend Santa. Watch out.

I don't think this is a good example of "worst model". I think it's actually a really WELL DONE model. Only the CONCEPT of the model is totally ridiculous. It's sort of like the Dreadknight. Yes, the concept is completely stupid. It's a Space Marine wearing some kind of huge exo-skeleton. But the model itself is pretty good quality for what it is. Now take Centurions for example though. The model just doesn't work. It doesn't look like it can even walk or move its arms. It has "hands" but clearly would not be able to pick anything up. The included heads look goofy. That's just bad design.

Now let's look at Santa.

It's a chariot pulled by space wolves. Yes, the concept is crazy and should never have been approved.

But look at the MODEL!

The Chariot is pretty cool. There's lots of relief molding. Lots of added detail like the shields on the side of the chariot, giving it a fun Norse feel. You've got the Wolf reliefs that look cool.
Logan himself looks awesome. Check out all the details on the shoulderpads, the cape flowing behind him, the facial expression, his beard, his axe. He looks great!
Look at the wolves. What cool poses! They're literally leaping off the base, and look really dynamic. I'll give you some goofy points because the actual harness for the wolves securing them to the chariot doesn't look like it would really work. I think a dog-sled type harness for the wolves would have worked better than this odd thing they came up with.

So Logan Grimnar? I would nominate for most ridiculous model concept. But as a model, it's actually REALLY well done.

You have a point there Murrdox.

Murrdox wrote:


Okay I'm going to defend Santa. Watch out.

I don't think this is a good example of "worst model". I think it's actually a really WELL DONE model. Only the CONCEPT of the model is totally ridiculous. It's sort of like the Dreadknight. Yes, the concept is completely stupid. It's a Space Marine wearing some kind of huge exo-skeleton. But the model itself is pretty good quality for what it is. Now take Centurions for example though. The model just doesn't work. It doesn't look like it can even walk or move its arms. It has "hands" but clearly would not be able to pick anything up. The included heads look goofy. That's just bad design.

Now let's look at Santa.

It's a chariot pulled by space wolves. Yes, the concept is crazy and should never have been approved.

But look at the MODEL!

The Chariot is pretty cool. There's lots of relief molding. Lots of added detail like the shields on the side of the chariot, giving it a fun Norse feel. You've got the Wolf reliefs that look cool.
Logan himself looks awesome. Check out all the details on the shoulderpads, the cape flowing behind him, the facial expression, his beard, his axe. He looks great!
Look at the wolves. What cool poses! They're literally leaping off the base, and look really dynamic. I'll give you some goofy points because the actual harness for the wolves securing them to the chariot doesn't look like it would really work. I think a dog-sled type harness for the wolves would have worked better than this odd thing they came up with.

So Logan Grimnar? I would nominate for most ridiculous model concept. But as a model, it's actually REALLY well done.

Supposed someone had to be buying them...

Granted, its not a blob and there are details, but good lord is it poor. Take Logan off the santa sleigh and he'd be fine, but the badly sculpted wolves running in opposite directions and the silly sleigh, regardless of details is just, well, its an embarrassment. It's hard enough selling the war gaming hobby as a creative endeavor and a worthwhile pursuit. But models such as this set any goodwill and acceptance back years. The box may as well come with labels such as "Now with large axe, batteries not included..."

Who could forget Captain Cortez?

Ah! Finally, you have all forgotten the true "derp" of the chaos bat wing jump pack! (guy on the right)

I field a squad of these guys for "fun" as people point and stare shocked and even ask me if I made them myself!
The models that followed (guy on left) could not have come fast enough.

Obliterators for sure. Look like Fisher Price stuff.

Oblits are bad, but at least they aren't as bad as their cousins the Mutilators.



I can't understand how GW managed to make their Combat-Oblits more ugly than the much older shooty version...

I would have to say the taurox

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Oblits are bad, but at least they aren't as bad as their cousins the Mutilators.



I can't understand how GW managed to make their Combat-Oblits more ugly than the much older shooty version...

ROFL

Those are some amazing faces right there.

Wow, I didn't even know those models existed. Jeebus.

Murrdox wrote:
Okay I'm going to defend Santa. Watch out.

Well the original post said "Not old models from the 90's, those were obviously horrible looking models." so I was judging concept over sculpting.
Most of GW's models these days are technically beautiful, ornate and well finished. One Skitari weapon contains more detail than one of my 1980s guard figures.
I think visually it's pretty impressive. Just ignoring the pants-on-head concept behind it is impossible.

They have taken three beautiful things (I'd buy those wolves individually, and the chariot as you say is beautiful, as is Logan) and made a visual frankenstein's monster.
If only due to us having to suspend the disbelief that two wolves capable of bearing the weight of a Space marine in full armour wouldn't rip that axel in half the moment they started running at 45 degree angles to one another.

But mostly it's because there's on display in Tabletop Tyrant in Leicester painted up like reindeer.

The first line of Dark Eldar minis.






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Okay technically these are from 1999. Out of the current crop I hate ork tankbustas the most. You want tankbustas, you gotta convert.

Haruspex wrote:

Spoiler:

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Futuristic fantasy race my arse. ...Those are just goths. My brain is struggling to deal with how uncannily similar they are to the folks you find coming out of a late night gig.

Honestly, I think the gork/morkanauts look better than the stompa. The stompa just looks like some orks made a skirt out of metal and put a head on top of it. It would look so much cooler if they removed the skirt and showed all the clanging gears and roaring engines, to see how that beast really moves.

The 90's one mold complete models were atrocious. they all have the same pose, looking to the side with arms up

The Taurox. An abomination against armored warfare.

The original Nagash... The sculptor was ordered by higher ups to make two versions of the model, he made one version intentionally ugly to force them to release the one he really liked and had put loads of effort into. GW in all there wisdom released the intentionally ugly one.

I'm torn between the taurox and the stormwolf. They both have so many things wrong with them lol. The taurox could not function period. The stormwolf might be able to work in a very low gravity location, looks more like a boarding ship to me.

There's not a single model I hate. Don't know why people hate so many good models.

 aka_mythos wrote:
The original Nagash... The sculptor was ordered by higher ups to make two versions of the model, he made one version intentionally ugly to force them to release the one he really liked and had put loads of effort into. GW in all there wisdom released the intentionally ugly one.

What did the good one look like?

Ellethorn wrote:
I'm torn between the taurox and the stormwolf. They both have so many things wrong with them lol. The taurox could not function period. The stormwolf might be able to work in a very low gravity location, looks more like a boarding ship to me.

The Stormwolf is a boarding ship. Thats why it rocks. Its, big, bulky, and looks like its ready to unload a world of SW furry out the front hatch of wherever it lands. The model also has antigrav thingys on the bottom just like a land speeder. So maybe thats why it doesn't have any real wings and just needs the engines for forward thrust to literally punch through the enemy lines.

The Admech stuff and even Logan claws are not bad models. Lots of detail, some good motion, so I wouldn't call them the worst. The mutilators are really bad as infantry models and the Taurox for vehicles.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
The original Nagash... The sculptor was ordered by higher ups to make two versions of the model, he made one version intentionally ugly to force them to release the one he really liked and had put loads of effort into. GW in all there wisdom released the intentionally ugly one.

Spoiler:

What did the good one look like?

Never heard this before, now I would like to have some source and a pic

While Coteaz is really bad, my personal ugliest model by GW is


This thing looks so derpy, I would never field it.

Here's the proper nagash

 zedmeister wrote:
Here's the proper nagash

Spoiler:

So it's just a different head? Doesn't look any better than the other one imo.

 aka_mythos wrote:
The original Nagash... The sculptor was ordered by higher ups to make two versions of the model, he made one version intentionally ugly to force them to release the one he really liked and had put loads of effort into. GW in all there wisdom released the intentionally ugly one.

I'll get you next time, He-man!

Replace the treads on the Taurox with wheels and you've got a damn fine looking model. I thought most people did that already.

Santa is a nice model with a too ridiculous concept.

It's between Centurions and Obliterators/Mutilators for me. What swings it is that I can pretty easily convert the Oblits into something cool looking (or the Mutilators if for some inconceivable reason I wanted to use them). But there's no good way to salvage the Centurions. Everything is massively out of proportion and overly chunky on those abominations.

Special shout out to the Fantasy Chaos Forsaken. It's like they got the exact same sculptor who did the old possessed models. So bad.

Well, I did not like the Centurions initially, a "simple" fix makes them better.
Just hack-up the crotch-guard: remove the middle plate and shave flat and glue the side plates on the tops of the legs:

Makes their legs look a bit longer and they now look like they could walk.
If I was to do anything different I may cut the between the legs "toes" since they look like they really get in the way.
I must admit that having hands is rather useless with the under-slung guns.
The detail on the back of them looks cool with the tube frame: it looks like something a marine can step into and get going in a minute.

As for the Taurox, Victoria Miniatures fixed that for you:

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, I did not like the Centurions initially, a "simple" fix makes them better.
Just hack-up the crotch-guard: remove the middle plate and shave flat and glue the side plates on the tops of the legs:

Their heads still look silly to me. It just looks like a space marine put on the armour of a much bigger person.

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, I did not like the Centurions initially, a "simple" fix makes them better.
Just hack-up the crotch-guard: remove the middle plate and shave flat and glue the side plates on the tops of the legs:

Makes their legs look a bit longer and they now look like they could walk.
If I was to do anything different I may cut the between the legs "toes" since they look like they really get in the way.
I must admit that having hands is rather useless with the under-slung guns.
The detail on the back of them looks cool with the tube frame: it looks like something a marine can step into and get going in a minute.

As for the Taurox, Victoria Miniatures fixed that for you:

Spoiler:

That's a very solid conversion. You're right, removing the codpiece does make it look like they are now capable of at least wobbling across the battlefield.

That Taurox expansion kit is really cool. If I played Imperial Guard, I'd be buying lots of those lol.

While Coteaz is really bad, my personal ugliest model by GW is

"Coteaz" and "bad" are two words that just don't fit together.

 RazgrizOne wrote:

While Coteaz is really bad, my personal ugliest model by GW is

"Coteaz" and "bad" are two words that just don't fit together.

Whoops, I meant Cortez, Captain Cortez (posted above). Coteaz is an awesome model.


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 vipoid wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, I did not like the Centurions initially, a "simple" fix makes them better.
Just hack-up the crotch-guard: remove the middle plate and shave flat and glue the side plates on the tops of the legs:

Their heads still look silly to me. It just looks like a space marine put on the armour of a much bigger person.

It literally is. You can see the Marine from a back view of the Centurions. A Power Armour Marine inside a bigger suit, but not with a bigger helmet.

Dark Eldar transvestite slaves.

Logan Grimnar, Stormfang, Dreadknight are bad concepts, not necessarily model quality-wise.

I don't know why everyone hates the Dreadknight so much. It always makes me think of the power loader from Aliens (Get away from her, you B****!), or maybe the AMP suits from Avatar. I think the model is cool, and NOT a frickin' baby carrier!

As for ugly models, the Leman Russ and the Taurox are pretty bad. The Sisters' Penitent Engine is not too great, either. But none of them are so bad I would refuse to run them.

Never got the Logan hate to be honest, infact as a sculpt its pretty darn cool, the wolves ae great and Logan himself is very characterful.
Hes riding a chariot, whats the big deal?

My vote goes to old deffkopta models - not the AoBR ones, the others. Terrible.
+1 for the mutalators too, they look like malformed metal apes.

Agree on the comments that Grimnir Claus is stupid but well executed.

The Taurox is pretty crap, but as a CSM player I've got to say the bottom of the barrel has to be the Mutilators.

Oh, and it's by no means the worst but I think the current DE Archon is really disappointing compared to the previous model.

OH, I've also got to give an honorable mention to the Heldrake.

Specifically the back half of it. The front of the model is awesome but then it's like they just chop off the tail end of the entire model, and end it with this weird vertebrae tail, and a few loose cables? Maybe doing a full blown tail would have made the model too big to fit in a box easily (too many sprues) or too expensive. I dunno. But the tail end of the Heldrake looks really bad.

Murrdox wrote:
OH, I've also got to give an honorable mention to the Heldrake.

Specifically the back half of it. The front of the model is awesome but then it's like they just chop off the tail end of the entire model, and end it with this weird vertebrae tail, and a few loose cables? Maybe doing a full blown tail would have made the model too big to fit in a box easily (too many sprues) or too expensive. I dunno. But the tail end of the Heldrake looks really bad.

I still find it amusing that the rear of the Helldrake resembles a catfish.

 zgort wrote:
What? The Russ at least has some character. Check out the darkshroud. So...ugly...

I think the Darkshroud has a very unique look. Is it the sexiest looking model? No. Is it ugly? Nah. Plus, it's got its own DJ in the back though he's not that loud in the Darkshroud. Magnetize a few things and make it a Land Speeder Vengeance and you have one heck of a booming anti-heretic speaker setup!

SG

Where is she? Where is she?


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OK, there she is!

 deviantduck wrote:

Nothing, and I mean nothing looks worse than the Stormraven. It's a freaking flying pregnant guppy. Thank God Chapter House's conversion makes it look like the mini Thunder Hawk it should have been.

I didn't like the Taurox but that Victoria kit improves it tremendously.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
I don't know why everyone hates the Dreadknight so much. It always makes me think of the power loader from Aliens (Get away from her, you B****!), or maybe the AMP suits from Avatar. I think the model is cool, and NOT a frickin' baby carrier!

As for ugly models, the Leman Russ and the Taurox are pretty bad. The Sisters' Penitent Engine is not too great, either. But none of them are so bad I would refuse to run them.

Because they're dumb. That's why people hate DK.

And by "they", I mean the DK. It's a dumb idea.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Guys. Guys.

Just stop, and remember this exists.



This is the point that even GW stopped and looked at itself in confusion.

"Are we being serious?"
"I don't even know."

Someone doesn't like the Leman Russ? That model's AWESOME and is what got me in to this hobby. Such a cool mix of retro and modern.

And how anyone could even think of that tank when this above model exists...

My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam.
I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

P.S. My image is showing up as an X for me. Just click it to see the image.

That model is hideous. Looks like a toy.

The wave of dreadknight hate is stupid because GW used the EXACT same design for the Eldar Warwalker for decades. At least the lack of a cockpit makes sense on a dreadknight because the pilot is already a terminator. He literally needs no other armor. His robot is just a weapons platform and nothing more.

What is understandably annoying is the idea that a dreadknight is tougher than a tank or a dreadnought, but this is a failure of the 40k ruleset as a whole. The vehicle rules have been wrong ever since 3rd edition came out. GW has sidestepped the rules that make tanks squishier than infantry by designing giant robots in infantry-grade armor who use WHFB Monster rules. Dreadknights, wraithknights and riptides are literally fantasy giants walking around in 40K, and they're all made of some magical substance that resists melta and lascannon fire sufficient to turn a battle tank into molten slag. The melta will deny your save, but you still get your multiple wounds whereas melta can one-shot a tank regardless of hull points. Nobody has ever even tried to offer the flimsiest excuse for an explanation for the bizarre schism in vehicle types. Nobody knows why some giant robots are vehicles whereas others are monsters. I mean we all know the reason in terms of actual rules-writing (GW wanted to make these models overpowered in order to sell lots of them) but there's no fluff explanation for it at all.

FineFail Abaddon. Partly because it has a tendency to not come out well when modelling, partly because the arms hate the torso, but mostly because the Big Bad is shorter than a Guardsman.

And if he took of the armour, he'd be a stick insect.

I still fail to see anything wrong with Abaddon. As far as I see it, it's a pretty cool model (at least, the original metal version, not the failcast copycat) despite the spikes with the heads being a bit too big. And I don't see how such a mini can be faulted for the scale creep that has run rampant in the years after its release, nor the obscene proportions of the plastic guard mutants.

 Korinov wrote:
I still fail to see anything wrong with Abaddon. As far as I see it, it's a pretty cool model (at least, the original metal version, not the failcast copycat) despite the spikes with the heads being a bit too big. And I don't see how such a mini can be faulted for the scale creep that has run rampant in the years after its release, nor the obscene proportions of the plastic guard mutants.

ignoring IG (as GW once admitted they are out of scale, and everything else is fine), Abby is, in Termie armour, the same size as / smaller than a tactical marine. For a guy who's rumored to be the clone of Horus, and is jacked up on the power of the Gods, you'd think he's at least be as big as / bigger than a Chaos Lord in Terminator? The guy should be impressive and intimidating, not weedy.

 Mantorok wrote:
My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam.
I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

P.S. My image is showing up as an X for me. Just click it to see the image.

Anyone else see the face of Shredder?

 vipoid wrote:
With regard to Cult Mechanicus, I just can't take the Battle Servitors seriously. Probably because whenever I see this:

Spoiler:

All I can think of is this:

Spoiler:

Me neither, I converted some of my own out of Ogres. Also kastellans...pity the kastellans

Mantorok wrote:My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam.
I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

That's no Wraithknight; that's the old Armorcast Towering Destroyer-class Eldar Knight.

What no-one can argue with though is that it's a terrible model (especially next to the Wraithknight).

 Mantorok wrote:
My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam.
I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

P.S. My image is showing up as an X for me. Just click it to see the image.

Holy feth. That wins. Someone tear out my eyes please.

 Mantorok wrote:
My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam.
I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

P.S. My image is showing up as an X for me. Just click it to see the image.

What... What IS this?!?!?!

 Selym wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
I still fail to see anything wrong with Abaddon. As far as I see it, it's a pretty cool model (at least, the original metal version, not the failcast copycat) despite the spikes with the heads being a bit too big. And I don't see how such a mini can be faulted for the scale creep that has run rampant in the years after its release, nor the obscene proportions of the plastic guard mutants.

ignoring IG (as GW once admitted they are out of scale, and everything else is fine), Abby is, in Termie armour, the same size as / smaller than a tactical marine. For a guy who's rumored to be the clone of Horus, and is jacked up on the power of the Gods, you'd think he's at least be as big as / bigger than a Chaos Lord in Terminator? The guy should be impressive and intimidating, not weedy.

Same size as a current tactical marine.

I have the model. It looks perfectly fine side by side with the (metal) chaos termies and the rest of the chaos range of the time. It's a model from the 2nd edition after all, released in the mid 90s. He's decently proportioned, the pose is ok (specially compared with other models from the 90s) and the level of detail is actually quite good.

The problem is the scale creep that happened in the 20 years after his release, not Abaddon himself. And he doesn't look any bad in a 40mm base, btw.

It looked fine at the time but does not now. Just because it looked alright in the 90's does not mean it looks alright now.

Actually, that's probably a direct counter argument to several of GW's business strategies.

For me it is the Taurox. Just a hideously ugly monstrosity. I actually don't mind Mr Grimnar on his wolf pulled sleigh - not saying I like it, just that I don't find it as offensive/stupid as a lot of others.

I think Abbadon looks pretty crap and is in desperate need of a new model. In fact, I would say the same for all of GW's old metal models that are several editions old - with the exception of Azrael. I really like Azrael's model but it could just do with being made a little bit bigger. I have had to model him stood on rocks to give him extra height so he doesn't look like a tiny little man among his Dark Angel brethren.

I honestly don't mind the taurox, sure its a stupid concept, but it looks quite cool to me, and with the upgrade pack, I think it looks freaking amazing.

I quite like logans sled, its pretty cool.

I HATE the leman russ model, it doesn't work, and it looks really dumb.

 Mantorok wrote:
My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam. I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

This is actually the "Towering Destroyer Knight" by Armorcast.

Brought to you by the same folks who made the "Cauldron of Khorn", "Cannon of Khorn", "Eldar Tempest Grav Tank", "Gobsmasha", "Warhound", "Exocrine Gunbeast", "Haruspex Assault Spawn", "Malefactor Tyranid Transport"...
They made a ton of the big stuff before Forgeworld got online.
All the design love or derp comes from the original Epic game models.

Eldar Towering Destroyer Knight

What a name to boot

Haruspex wrote:
The wave of dreadknight hate is stupid because GW used the EXACT same design for the Eldar Warwalker for decades. At least the lack of a cockpit makes sense on a dreadknight because the pilot is already a terminator. He literally needs no other armor. His robot is just a weapons platform and nothing more.

What is understandably annoying is the idea that a dreadknight is tougher than a tank or a dreadnought, but this is a failure of the 40k ruleset as a whole. The vehicle rules have been wrong ever since 3rd edition came out. GW has sidestepped the rules that make tanks squishier than infantry by designing giant robots in infantry-grade armor who use WHFB Monster rules. Dreadknights, wraithknights and riptides are literally fantasy giants walking around in 40K, and they're all made of some magical substance that resists melta and lascannon fire sufficient to turn a battle tank into molten slag. The melta will deny your save, but you still get your multiple wounds whereas melta can one-shot a tank regardless of hull points. Nobody has ever even tried to offer the flimsiest excuse for an explanation for the bizarre schism in vehicle types. Nobody knows why some giant robots are vehicles whereas others are monsters. I mean we all know the reason in terms of actual rules-writing (GW wanted to make these models overpowered in order to sell lots of them) but there's no fluff explanation for it at all.

The one meltagun shot hit the ammunition stored inside the vehicle causing a chain reaction explosion shredding the vehicle from inside out.
The one meltagun shot hit the foot of the Riptide, mangling the foot, but leaving the Riptide 86% combat effective.

The one meltagun shot hit the crew compartment of the Riptide, causing it to fall over dead.

...Never happens?

I think the leman russ looks fine, I sure love to loot them.

For me, I'd go with the admech castellan robots - they look like the robot off big hero 6. Too rounded and soft, and their guns are tiny - I swear they look like big shootas. In general they look way out of place, to me, in an grimdark robomen imperial army. When I first saw them I asked if they were actual GW models or not.

While I don't disagree about the orkanauts being awful units, especially for what they cost ($ and points wise), and though I didn't like them initially, I've come to like the model's look. I think it's fine and fits the concept, if not the practice, of a mini-stompa.

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
I think the leman russ looks fine, I sure love to loot them.

I like it too, but it has some godawful design flaws, like an oversized main gun, no track suspension, and it's liable to get the front or hull gun stuck in the dirt when it meets a slope.

 deviantduck wrote:

The one meltagun shot hit the ammunition stored inside the vehicle causing a chain reaction explosion shredding the vehicle from inside out.
The one meltagun shot hit the foot of the Riptide, mangling the foot, but leaving the Riptide 100% combat effective.

Fixed that for you. MCs fight at 100% effectiveness until they lose their last wound and just keel over dead.

 vipoid wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:

The one meltagun shot hit the ammunition stored inside the vehicle causing a chain reaction explosion shredding the vehicle from inside out.
The one meltagun shot hit the foot of the Riptide, mangling the foot, but leaving the Riptide 100% combat effective.

Fixed that for you. MCs fight at 100% effectiveness until they lose their last wound and just keel over dead.

True. I was just making a comical starship troopers reference.

 vipoid wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:

The one meltagun shot hit the ammunition stored inside the vehicle causing a chain reaction explosion shredding the vehicle from inside out.
The one meltagun shot hit the foot of the Riptide, mangling the foot, but leaving the Riptide 100% combat effective.

Fixed that for you. MCs fight at 100% effectiveness until they lose their last wound and just keel over dead.

I do like that they're exploring the concept if tiers of effectivness eith AoS and hope we see something like that system for the super heavies.

Back on topic, my vote goes to old Nagash he just.. I cant think of him ever being thought of as good.

I would have to say the taurox, the model just looks odd to me

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
I think the leman russ looks fine, I sure love to loot them.

For me, I'd go with the admech castellan robots - they look like the robot off big hero 6. Too rounded and soft, and their guns are tiny - I swear they look like big shootas. In general they look way out of place, to me, in an grimdark robomen imperial army. When I first saw them I asked if they were actual GW models or not.

While I don't disagree about the orkanauts being awful units, especially for what they cost ($ and points wise), and though I didn't like them initially, I've come to like the model's look. I think it's fine and fits the concept, if not the practice, of a mini-stompa.

I will admit that the Admech derpbots look stupid, but they can be redeemed with a little green stuff to fix the eyes. With the Mutilator, you would need so much green stuff you would be better off casting a new model.

Here's how I fixed my AdMech Pillsbury Doughboy:



I believe the base kit is quite possibly the ugliest GW model ever created. They really outdid themselves on that one

That certainly looks a lot better.

The head looks.. creepy. What did you do to it?

Holy gak Talys that looks amazing. I love the cockpit too!

Like I said somewhere up there. AdMech and Skitarii are full of sci-fi tropes from the late 19th century up to the 1930s or so, The Kastellans are off a cover of Astounding Science Fiction. So are Vanguard and Infiltrators and Dragoons.

Having finally purchased my own kastellans, the dome twins dumpy and stumpy look a bit better with just a filling of greenstuff over their cockpit.

 Talys wrote:
Here's how I fixed my AdMech Pillsbury Doughboy:

Spoiler:

I believe the base kit is quite possibly the ugliest GW model ever created. They really outdid themselves on that one

Somehow, i'm reminded of a certain mech in a whole other game.

I was thinking about those guys too, actually!

In b4 someone starts a long rant about how GW/Blizzard ripped off GW/Blizzard.

As goofy as the Kastellans and the Logan-sled are, they are not ugly models. Now the Taurox, that one is just plain hideous. It is like the Fiat Multipla of 40k.


Also, I don't get how someone can dislike the LR. It is a delicious combination of WW1 and WW2 tank goodness and looks totally adorable.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
As goofy as the Kastellans and the Logan-sled are, they are not ugly models. Now the Taurox, that one is just plain hideous. It is like the Fiat Multipla of 40k.


Also, I don't get how someone can dislike the LR. It is a delicious combination of WW1 and WW2 tank goodness and looks totally adorable.

The Leman Russ is a classic. It's iconic for the AM/IG as a whole.

I personally don't mind the Taurox. Sure, it's ugly, but it's ugly in a functional way, like a Rhino.

I still haven't seen anybody put forth an uglier model than the Mutilator though!

Can people explain to me what they think is ugly about the Taurox? I think it's really cool, even though I don't play guard.

It's too tall. It looks fat because of it. It's like, twice as tall as a Rhino.

There's also something really off with those caterpillar tracks. It's hard to describe, but it looks like they were glued on by a drunk Irishman.

Razorgor

 Harley Quinn wrote:
Can people explain to me what they think is ugly about the Taurox? I think it's really cool, even though I don't play guard.

It is massive, ugly, has track units that are practically rectangle and weapon mounts that make me want to weep.

Oh, and its ingame stats do nothing to redeem it either.

 vipoid wrote:
There's also something really off with those caterpillar tracks. It's hard to describe, but it looks like they were glued on by a drunk Irishman.

I was tempted again to post the picture of the Taurox again for reference of what is off with it: - The track assemblies are of a size their suspension should be contained within them but we still see a secondary system they are attached to.
- What is the point of the mudguards? If is was capped a bit to look like more protective armor, fine, but seems redundant.
- The large slope up a tread is for the long tracked vehicles that cross trenches: pointless: see spoiler of Humvee further down.
- Mounting guns on the side of the vehicle near the back just seems silly, like you could walk into fire if you open a side door.
- The rear door looks like a giant tank hatch. There is a reason for a drop down door: ease of exit and some cover as the door is swinging down with a good field of view.
- The split open back is just bad, at the very least have a viewport / camera on them so you can keep an eye out as you open them.
- The side doors look like bulkheads for a submarine: more designed for pressure than armor.
- The exhaust pipes coming out of the engine compartment just seems like bad design: ran out of room in the engine box, then routed back into the truck.
- The exposed latches for the engine compartment just seems to beg to pop those open and drop a grenade in.

I think it is the design looks too much like a Peterbilt retrofit:
If the engine extended to the width of the vehicle a bit like the Humvee it may have looked a little more angry.
Ah! here we go!
It really is a bad blend of Humvee and APC.
Only way I will use this model is when I put wheels on it.

I was going to say 'taurox' but the two recent space-wolf vehicles take the cake and run off with it!



A prctical note on the taurox doors - the hinges are toward the front so if the latch fails and it swings open during firing the ricochets will be going straight into the personnel area!
As an engineer, if i designed a vehicle like that and that happened then i would be legally responsible for the casualties as thinking about that for even half a second would have you mounting the guns somewhere else. (the hinges are forward to stop enemy fire ricocheting into the personnel area)

Surely if the hinges are towards the front of the vehicle, the door will open towards the front of the vehicle, meaning that bullets will hit the open door and glance away. If the hinges were towards the back of the vehicle, opening the door would put the door behind the doorway, exposing anyone standing in the doorway to fire.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Surely if the hinges are towards the front of the vehicle, the door will open towards the front of the vehicle, meaning that bullets will hit the open door and glance away. If the hinges were towards the back of the vehicle, opening the door would put the door behind the doorway, exposing anyone standing in the doorway to fire.

Normally, yes. However, his point was that the vehicles own guns are behind the doors. So, if the door catch fails, it'll open and cause bullets/shrapnel from the vehicle's own guns to ricochet inside.

Land Raider guns have been mounted behind doors for the past 28 years. This is just how the Imperium does things.

Luckily, they found the STC wiring diagrams for refrigerator lights. So when the doors open a switch is flipped stopping the firing of the guns.

 deviantduck wrote:
Luckily, they found the STC wiring diagrams for refrigerator lights. So when the doors open a switch is flipped stopping the firing of the guns.

Oh you

I still like it. I think it has character.

Honorable mention: this Blood Angel Sergeant's armour:

Why does the armour have nipples? And abs? Reminds me of that awful Batsuit that George Cluney wore in Batman and Robin.

 Cleatus wrote:
Honorable mention: this Blood Angel Sergeant's armour:

Spoiler:

Why does the armour have nipples? And abs? Reminds me of awful Batsuit that George Cluney wore in Batman and Robin.

Spoiler:

Nah. It's supposed to be a very cliché faux-classical look, derived from statues both of the time and of the renaissance. It's not that offensive, to be honest; makes a nice break from everything being skulls.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

 Cleatus wrote:
Honorable mention: this Blood Angel Sergeant's armour:

Spoiler:

Why does the armour have nipples? And abs? Reminds me of awful Batsuit that George Cluney wore in Batman and Robin.

Spoiler:

Nah. It's supposed to be a very cliché faux-classical look, derived from statues both of the time and of the renaissance. It's not that offensive, to be honest; makes a nice break from everything being skulls.

Yeah, less goth and skulls and more romans, please

 Cleatus wrote:
Honorable mention: this Blood Angel Sergeant's armour:

Spoiler:

Why does the armour have nipples? And abs? Reminds me of that awful Batsuit that George Cluney wore in Batman and Robin.

Spoiler:

Works for emperor's children!

If I had the money I would make a drama of this jumping a shark.

Alternatively, you could just photoshop out the base and replace it with a shark.

 vipoid wrote:
Alternatively, you could just photoshop out the base and replace it with a shark.

If you wanted to be subtle, you could add some dead caracodons to the base...

Sorry I took so long to reply.

vipoid wrote:That certainly looks a lot better.

The head looks.. creepy. What did you do to it?

master of ordinance wrote:Holy gak Talys that looks amazing. I love the cockpit too!

I filled the head in with greenstuff, turned it around, and sunk it into the recess of the cavity -- obviously, painted before it's assembled, because otherwise, it would be impossible to get the gradient below the armored lip. The arms come from a Furioso dreadnought kit, to give it more volume. The weapons are the ones that come with the kit arms, but I sliced them off and paired them onto the Furioso arm (which has its front barrel removed). Fortunately, the ammo belts for the two weapons look really similar.

Oh, and I took the articulating shoulder-mounted weapon, and made it a back mounted weapon. The way it looks stock, the Kastellan shoulder weapon looks like it's on too fragile an arm.

A bunch of other little stuff

And Thanks!!

 Nevelon wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
Alternatively, you could just photoshop out the base and replace it with a shark.

If you wanted to be subtle, you could add some dead caracodons to the base...

Genius. Somebody PLEASE do it.

Morkanaut is pretty bad but the culexus assassin ugh... the worst.... much worse than the blood bowl models... plus I mean the ork cheerleaders are awesome for what they are IMHO. I'd buy em.... but I'm a smidge unhinged.

 Harley Quinn wrote:
Can people explain to me what they think is ugly about the Taurox? I think it's really cool, even though I don't play guard.

It all comes down to the ugly baby blue GW paintjob on it honestly. I painted mine in a more grounded scheme and I've changed a lot of minds about the model. It's still definitely chunky, but it's chunky in that so very 40k way:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Harley Quinn wrote:
Can people explain to me what they think is ugly about the Taurox? I think it's really cool, even though I don't play guard.

It all comes down to the ugly baby blue GW paintjob on it honestly. I painted mine in a more grounded scheme and I've changed a lot of minds about the model. It's still definitely chunky, but it's chunky in that so very 40k way:

Oh, nice. You've done yours really good. I like the model.

 deviantduck wrote:

Spoiler:

I think we've seen sister dialogus some time ago in a similar thread.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Guys. Guys.

Just stop, and remember this exists.



This is the point that even GW stopped and looked at itself in confusion.

"Are we being serious?"
"I don't even know."

I just stumbled on this gem of a conversion:

 Cleatus wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Guys. Guys.

Just stop, and remember this exists.



This is the point that even GW stopped and looked at itself in confusion.

"Are we being serious?"
"I don't even know."

I just stumbled on this gem of a conversion:

Oh god yes

Made my bloody day!

Space Marine fliers are gross. The Masters of marches, relics, rites, and the Lord Executioners are lame.

The Ogryn heads look like they have down syndrome. (I like the Bullgryn heads with the masks though a lot.) The Taurox is weird but things can be done to make it look a little better. The Mars Alpha pattern Leman Russes (used by the DKoK) look way better than the standard Russes.

 Yack Maniels wrote:
The Ogryn heads look like they have down syndrome.

That's somewhat intentional. They are hominids that forked off of Homo Sapiens on a particularly high gravity world, forcing them to gain muscle mass at the cost of mental faculties. I'd disqualify them based on the fact they're supposed to be ugly. When things are supposed to be at least neutral to look at and they come out hideous, that's an issue.

Logan Claus, the Taurox, Kornmower, Helldrake and most of the Admech are my least favorite.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

 Yack Maniels wrote:
The Ogryn heads look like they have down syndrome.

That's somewhat intentional. They are hominids that forked off of Homo Sapiens on a particularly high gravity world, forcing them to gain muscle mass at the cost of mental faculties. I'd disqualify them based on the fact they're supposed to be ugly. When things are supposed to be at least neutral to look at and they come out hideous, that's an issue.

What about Creed? His face looks like a melting potato.

 vipoid wrote:

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

 Yack Maniels wrote:
The Ogryn heads look like they have down syndrome.

That's somewhat intentional. They are hominids that forked off of Homo Sapiens on a particularly high gravity world, forcing them to gain muscle mass at the cost of mental faculties. I'd disqualify them based on the fact they're supposed to be ugly. When things are supposed to be at least neutral to look at and they come out hideous, that's an issue.

What about Creed? His face looks like a melting potato.

Yeah, he's just ugly.

His face looks like that because he refuses to wear a helmet. How do you think YOUR face would look after a lifetime of saving throws?

 j31c3n wrote:
His face looks like that because he refuses to wear a helmet. How do you think YOUR face would look after a lifetime of saving throws?

Tactical Genius hurrrr....

 Yack Maniels wrote:
The Masters of marches, relics, rites, and the Lord Executioners are lame.

I’ll agree on Marches and Rites, Relics is not bad (although looks more like a vet dev sarge), but the Executioner is quite nice.

 j31c3n wrote:
His face looks like that because he refuses to wear a helmet. How do you think YOUR face would look after a lifetime of saving throws?

I don't think human skin has a saving throw. It's kinda why they wear helmets in the first place.

 vipoid wrote:

 j31c3n wrote:
His face looks like that because he refuses to wear a helmet. How do you think YOUR face would look after a lifetime of saving throws?

I don't think human skin has a saving throw. It's kinda why they wear helmets in the first place.

Catachans exist.

Apparently human skin is better than flak armour.

Makes one wonder why it was even produced...

...dignity?

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

 Yack Maniels wrote:
The Ogryn heads look like they have down syndrome.

That's somewhat intentional. They are hominids that forked off of Homo Sapiens on a particularly high gravity world, forcing them to gain muscle mass at the cost of mental faculties. I'd disqualify them based on the fact they're supposed to be ugly. When things are supposed to be at least neutral to look at and they come out hideous, that's an issue.

I understand that, I just wish they didn't look so... cartoonish maybe? I dunno. I know they're not supposed to look like normal humans, but I feel like they could be less goofy with the desired effect.

 Talizvar wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
There's also something really off with those caterpillar tracks. It's hard to describe, but it looks like they were glued on by a drunk Irishman.

I was tempted again to post the picture of the Taurox again for reference of what is off with it:

Spoiler:

- The track assemblies are of a size their suspension should be contained within them but we still see a secondary system they are attached to.
- What is the point of the mudguards? If is was capped a bit to look like more protective armor, fine, but seems redundant.
- The large slope up a tread is for the long tracked vehicles that cross trenches: pointless: see spoiler of Humvee further down.
- Mounting guns on the side of the vehicle near the back just seems silly, like you could walk into fire if you open a side door.
- The rear door looks like a giant tank hatch. There is a reason for a drop down door: ease of exit and some cover as the door is swinging down with a good field of view.
- The split open back is just bad, at the very least have a viewport / camera on them so you can keep an eye out as you open them.
- The side doors look like bulkheads for a submarine: more designed for pressure than armor.
- The exhaust pipes coming out of the engine compartment just seems like bad design: ran out of room in the engine box, then routed back into the truck.
- The exposed latches for the engine compartment just seems to beg to pop those open and drop a grenade in.

I think it is the design looks too much like a Peterbilt retrofit:

Spoiler:

If the engine extended to the width of the vehicle a bit like the Humvee it may have looked a little more angry.
Ah! here we go!

Spoiler:

It really is a bad blend of Humvee and APC.
Only way I will use this model is when I put wheels on it.

I think the Taurox is a warhammerified MRAP.



Like someone else said the main problem is the tracks, and that (like most IG stuff) its really far out of scale.

What the fething hell is that!?

Xirmant wrote:

Spoiler:

Jain Zar says hi!

Oh. That one.

We don't talk about that one.

I own two of her.

One for my Eldar, the other converted as a WHFB chaos lord, with a giant axe replacing the silent death. Of course, back when I picked her up, big ’80s hair was more in style.

 Selym wrote:
What the fething hell is that!?

Jain Zar, Phoenix Lord of the Howling Banshees aspect warriors. I don't actually think she's too bad. She's aged well but the Phoenix Lords models as a whole could do with an overhaul. Except maybe Maugan Ra. That is such a fantastic sculpt.

For me it's these:

I actually like all of those...

Yeargh, I always forget the Phoenix Lords have never been resculpted.

 j31c3n wrote:
Yeargh, I always forget the Phoenix Lords have never been resculpted.

Eldar: We’ve got sculpts older then some armies!

And not just a few either, lots of them. Fits the fluff of the race very well.

 Selym wrote:
I actually like all of those...

Each to their own I guess.

I REALLY don't agree with you on the Flesh Hounds.. particularly with this badass sculpt that comes with the Age of Sigmar box set:

I have this model. It is fething horrid. I converted him with a helmet but then I realised I'd be better off tearing him up for spare parts.

Is there anything wrong with it other than the awful head?

See the star he is standing on? It is poorly designed and won't stand straight on the base. Lots of filing needed.

His pose is incredibly static, basically standing straight, despite zooming through the air.

His claws are WAY too large. It looks much worse in person. It's like a pair of claws with a little guy attached.

He is failcast which exaggerates the sheer precariousness and extreme fragility of the model.

The model is also just generally goofy overall.

 Ashiraya wrote:
See the star he is standing on? It is poorly designed and won't stand straight on the base. Lots of filing needed.

His pose is incredibly static, basically standing straight, despite zooming through the air.

His claws are WAY too large. It looks much worse in person. It's like a pair of claws with a little guy attached.

He is failcast which exaggerates the sheer precariousness and extreme fragility of the model.

The model is also just generally goofy overall.

Ah, I see. Thanks for elaborating.

 Ashiraya wrote:

His claws are WAY too large. It looks much worse in person. It's like a pair of claws with a little guy attached.

I agree with everything stated besides this. I like pretty over-the-top weapons on my Space Marines though.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
As goofy as the Kastellans and the Logan-sled are, they are not ugly models. Now the Taurox, that one is just plain hideous. It is like the Fiat Multipla of 40k.


Also, I don't get how someone can dislike the LR. It is a delicious combination of WW1 and WW2 tank goodness and looks totally adorable.

You mean, except for looking like they swab the bore by wrapping a conscript in a solvent-soaked blanket and making him crawl through it for his supper?

Plastic Catachans
Gorkamorka era Orks*
Original Nagash
Original plastic Terminators

* HOW IS THAT WARBUGGY STILL A THING?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

His claws are WAY too large. It looks much worse in person. It's like a pair of claws with a little guy attached.

I agree with everything stated besides this. I like pretty over-the-top weapons on my Space Marines though.

The pose makes it worse. Makes them look larger.

Hey guys, guys!

We forgot this abomination:

Selym wrote:Hey guys, guys!

We forgot this abomination:

Spoiler:

SGTPozy wrote:Dreadknight

I didn't! (Third post in this thread)

Biovores, they have incredibly derpy faces and giant penises on their backs, and two of their arms are dedicated to the sole purpose of clutching their own testicles.

why the flesh hounds and skulltaker angelofvengence?

These things are supposed to be lithe and graceful.
The derpy model looks like its about to fall over its own feet.

 gummyofallbears wrote:
why the flesh hounds and skulltaker angelofvengence

I agree; why don't you like those models? I wish I had Skulltaker for my Daemonkin, even though I wouldn't use him much other than in casual games. The hounds aren't too bad, although the older ones were better. Main thing wrong with the hounds is the price tag, which makes using Chaos Warhounds as flesh hounds a better option (four times as many models for almost the same price when you buy 2 boxes...)

 dan2026 wrote:
These things are supposed to be lithe and graceful.
The derpy model looks like its about to fall over its own feet.

It's like if My Little Pony was written by H. R. Giger.

 gummyofallbears wrote:
why the flesh hounds and skulltaker angelofvengence?

Skulltaker because of the ridiculous cape of skulls.

Flesh Hounds because they just don't look vicious at all and that includes Karanak.

Grizzlemaw (Age of Sigmar) is a fantastic example of how to do Flesh Hounds right.

 dan2026 wrote:
These things are supposed to be lithe and graceful.
The derpy model looks like its about to fall over its own feet.

You would have thought a perverted manifestation of desires would be appealing to look at.

You'd be wrong.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

You would have thought a perverted manifestation of desires would be appealing to look at.

You'd be wrong.

Rule 34 says hi.

You just know that they'll be *someone* who finds it appealing.

For my armies:

Orks: Warbuggy - so in need of an update

Nids: Biovore. Just looks like a pregnant bullfrog with kermit's head.

Dark Eldar: The new Archon. Get off the rock and do something. The old one was so much better. Must be why they put it on the book cover.

Time 2 Roll wrote:

Dark Eldar: The new Archon. Get off the rock and do something. The old one was so much better. Must be why they put it on the book cover.

I can also see why the old Archon never took his helmet off. His head looks like someone drew a face on an almond.

*That* IG lieutenant from 2nd edition. Along with another few other dodgey IG models from 2nd & 3rd this has to be my least favourite. Also never understood why GW stopped making two of their most popular metal models, the really old stormtroopers with berets and the praetorians.


Does anyone else also remember these? The chassis reminds me of a robin reliant.... mind you, it is the product of it's time

 Ashiraya wrote:
See the star he is standing on? It is poorly designed and won't stand straight on the base. Lots of filing needed.

His pose is incredibly static, basically standing straight, despite zooming through the air.

His claws are WAY too large. It looks much worse in person. It's like a pair of claws with a little guy attached.

He is failcast which exaggerates the sheer precariousness and extreme fragility of the model.

The model is also just generally goofy overall.

I have that model but in metal, aside from laughably useless wargear options the weight is almost entirely above the waist, meaning the very dodgy single contact point (the star he's dangling beneath him) constantly breaks.

Stormtalon.

The new Archon is a close second, though.

Dreadknight? Look at penitent engine



Taurox, Thunderwolf cavalry and centurions are bad too.

 Draco wrote:
Dreadknight? Look at penitent engine

Spoiler:

Taurox, Thunderwolf cavalry and centurions are bad too.

The Penitent Engine is cool though. They're not just sat in a baby carriage, they're hooked up with wires and tubes.

wat

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:


wat

Exalted!

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
These things are supposed to be lithe and graceful.
The derpy model looks like its about to fall over its own feet.

You would have thought a perverted manifestation of desires would be appealing to look at.

You'd be wrong.

In Chaos-Warped reality, daemonic steed mounts *YOU*!

 Baldeagle91 wrote:
*most popular metal models, the really old stormtroopers with berets

They're plastic, only the Sergeant is metal.

Most of the Daemon models.
Taurox and SW Santa.

Tau Vespids get an honourable mention too.

 Baldeagle91 wrote:
*That* IG lieutenant from 2nd edition. Along with another few other dodgey IG models from 2nd & 3rd this has to be my least favourite. Also never understood why GW stopped making two of their most popular metal models, the really old stormtroopers with berets and the praetorians.


Does anyone else also remember these? The chassis reminds me of a robin reliant.... mind you, it is the product of it's time

The fat Cadian officer is one of my favorite IG sculpts! He's got so much character, his pose is perfect, and the detail is solid. I love that mini. The old Sentinel looks fine, but building that out of metal is a nightmare.

Worst ones currently in production for me are, listed from bad to horrible:

Heavy Servitors
Logan on Sled
Centurions
Dreadknight
Pennet Engine
Darkshroud
Exorcist

i hate the taurox and the citidel fine cast veteran seargent looks like a pile of dog gak.
RUNNER up santa sled (See what i did there... RUNNER up and sleds have RUNNERs on the bottom of them.?}

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Baldeagle91 wrote:
*That* IG lieutenant from 2nd edition. Along with another few other dodgey IG models from 2nd & 3rd this has to be my least favourite. Also never understood why GW stopped making two of their most popular metal models, the really old stormtroopers with berets and the praetorians.

The fat Cadian officer is one of my favorite IG sculpts! He's got so much character, his pose is perfect, and the detail is solid. I love that mini. The old Sentinel looks fine, but building that out of metal is a nightmare.

I want that fattie sergeant! He just needs a cigar and he will be perfect!

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Baldeagle91 wrote:
*That* IG lieutenant from 2nd edition. Along with another few other dodgey IG models from 2nd & 3rd this has to be my least favourite. Also never understood why GW stopped making two of their most popular metal models, the really old stormtroopers with berets and the praetorians.

The fat Cadian officer is one of my favorite IG sculpts! He's got so much character, his pose is perfect, and the detail is solid. I love that mini. The old Sentinel looks fine, but building that out of metal is a nightmare.

I want that fattie sergeant! He just needs a cigar and he will be perfect!

CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!

 vipoid wrote:
I think we have a winner.

It's a shame, because Logan on foot is an AMAZING model. The sleigh is just... gak. Maybe if they made it a special chariot he can get out of, it would see more tabletop usage.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Yack Maniels wrote:
The Masters of marches, relics, rites, and the Lord Executioners are lame.

I’ll agree on Marches and Rites, Relics is not bad (although looks more like a vet dev sarge), but the Executioner is quite nice.

Master of Relics is the model I'm going to be converting my Raptors Chapter Master off of.

Executioner is my alternate choice.

new around here, but seen the Darkshroud mentioned a few times, as well as elsewhere in negative tones.

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say I actually like it - I have one. I don't currently game so I bought it solely off the back off the model, and think both the Darkshroud and the vengeance actually look really good. I think as models they are actually pretty cool, especially the Darkshroud which I think fits the DA background quite well, and it's a dramatic model that looks good painted up

I will say a few things though that maybe aren't so positive, it was stupidly expensive now I think about it (I bought it on a bit of an impulse, and didn't eat for a week afterwards..... neither did the future wife.....), the kit in terms of instructions & fit etc is far from good, and it is MASSIVE completed. But looking solely from an "is it cool" point of view, I think it is.... sorry :-)

The Taurox is hideous and probably takes the title for me.

I first started gaming with Epic and having an Ork army, I always hated these. They just never looked "Orky" enough and I think they were only ever created to even the balance with the Imperial Knights in the Titan Legions boxed set. They just look so rushed and dull:

I like them. But they'd look better in a bigger scale where you can see that it's made out of scrap.

 Selym wrote:
I like them. But they'd look better in a bigger scale where you can see that it's made out of scrap.

Yeah I think that's a very fair point. I just feel that on that scale they are a quite dull and don't reflect the Ork fluff anywhere near enough. Other minis in the Epic range did manage to, though.

Are we talking about ugliest or worst?

I think Logan on Sled is the silliest, though.

MikSmith wrote:


I first started gaming with Epic and having an Ork army, I always hated these. They just never looked "Orky" enough and I think they were only ever created to even the balance with the Imperial Knights in the Titan Legions boxed set. They just look so rushed and dull:

I love the new Battlewagons (they were the main reason for me to pick Orks again when I restarted 40k a few years back), but I liked the epic BWs/Gunwagons as well. Individually they were perhaps a bit dull and un-orky with these straightforward tank looks, but the kit allowed for some customization, and when deployed in large enough numbers they made for a really impressive sight.

 Iron_Captain wrote:


I want that fattie sergeant! He just needs a cigar and he will be perfect!

Looks more like a Mordian Iron Guard kinda guy..

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 gummyofallbears wrote:
why the flesh hounds and skulltaker angelofvengence?

Skulltaker because of the ridiculous cape of skulls.

His pose is quite awkward as well. What is he doing, and why is his left arm pointing backwards?

If we're going for ugly...

I know by definition these are supposed to be hideous, but it looks like a sculptor upped and quit and left their 6 year old nephew in charge of coating a basic mannequin with superglue and rolling it around in a box of shrapnel.

The whole thing is a mishmash of random symbols and bits of metal on a hideous body that isn't even sculpted nicely.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Baldeagle91 wrote:
*most popular metal models, the really old stormtroopers with berets

They're plastic, only the Sergeant is metal.

Fair enough always wanted a set, but never got round to it. Now I know they're plastic I may try hunt down a few.

Got 5 of them for 25$ by posting in the buy/see thread. A metal sergeant and 4 dudes with hellguns, 2 were broken but it was part of the deal.

I am surprised that one certain model has not been mentioned at all, which I take as evidence that it is so horrid that collective consciousness has censored it from our memories. Despite that, I dare to remind everyone of its existence:



Everything is wrong in that model. Everything. Overall plan is based on a land vehicle, individual visual features look horrible, tail and the wings give it a very unaggressive overall feel, pop-up missiles make it feel toylike. And to crown it all, it has those stupid struts which do...nothing, and look like they were added to it as an afterthought, probably because they were added to it as an afterthought after sculptor realized that it looked too much like a prop plane era aircraft.

Actually dont think its that bad bar the struts, hack them off and I quite like it tbh.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:

If we're going for ugly...

I know by definition these are supposed to be hideous, but it looks like a sculptor upped and quit and left their 6 year old nephew in charge of coating a basic mannequin with superglue and rolling it around in a box of shrapnel.

The whole thing is a mishmash of random symbols and bits of metal on a hideous body that isn't even sculpted nicely.

To be fair half the Codex: Inquisition looks like utter dogcrap.

Are you telling me this:

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140206052926/warhammer40k/images/thumb/0/0e/Imperial_Psyker2.jpg/500px-Imperial_Psyker2.jpg

Looks like this:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/INQ-02.jpg

Get the feth outta here.

"Anyone got a paracetamol? I think I feel a headache coming on..."

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:


I want that fattie sergeant! He just needs a cigar and he will be perfect!

Looks more like a Mordian Iron Guard kinda guy..

He's Cadian. The Mordian officer has a greatcoat and chainsword. I've used that Mordian officer for my company commander in my retro Cadian IG.

Backfire wrote:
I am surprised that one certain model has not been mentioned at all, which I take as evidence that it is so horrid that collective consciousness has censored it from our memories. Despite that, I dare to remind everyone of its existence:



Everything is wrong in that model. Everything. Overall plan is based on a land vehicle, individual visual features look horrible, tail and the wings give it a very unaggressive overall feel, pop-up missiles make it feel toylike. And to crown it all, it has those stupid struts which do...nothing, and look like they were added to it as an afterthought, probably because they were added to it as an afterthought after sculptor realized that it looked too much like a prop plane era aircraft.

It doesnt win worst model simply because every IOM flier (with the exception of the thunderhawk) model looks hands down worse.

I personally actually like the sunshark bomber version of the model. Yeah, the rails have to go, but it at least looks like it can fly and I really dig the concept of the energy bubble bomb.

I actually like the Tau flyers (but I like pretty much everything Tau). They suck in game terms, but I would love to have one to paint (if I could get one cheap...).

 Johnnytorrance wrote:
My vote is on the Leman Russ tank. This is the most hideous creation of the 41st Millennium. I can't justify buying them on how they look. I feel embarrassed putting that on the table. I can't think of anything that can be don't to it to make it look good.

Not old models from the 90's, those were obviously horrible looking models. I mean current generation models.

I am with you on this one. I also wont buy a Leman Russ on the basis of its idiotic looks. Looks like a constipated pregnant hen.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:


I want that fattie sergeant! He just needs a cigar and he will be perfect!

Looks more like a Mordian Iron Guard kinda guy..

He's Cadian. The Mordian officer has a greatcoat and chainsword. I've used that Mordian officer for my company commander in my retro Cadian IG.

Fair enough. The cap he's wearing gives off a little bit of Mordian vibe.


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Backfire wrote:
I am surprised that one certain model has not been mentioned at all, which I take as evidence that it is so horrid that collective consciousness has censored it from our memories. Despite that, I dare to remind everyone of its existence:



Everything is wrong in that model. Everything. Overall plan is based on a land vehicle, individual visual features look horrible, tail and the wings give it a very unaggressive overall feel, pop-up missiles make it feel toylike. And to crown it all, it has those stupid struts which do...nothing, and look like they were added to it as an afterthought, probably because they were added to it as an afterthought after sculptor realized that it looked too much like a prop plane era aircraft.

It doesn't look too shabby, I quite like it (as someone else has said- snip the struts off). Looks like the Tau version of a Reaper drone- though the missile pod on the tail is a bit silly- I'd have lengthened the wings and had missile racks on it- similar to the rotary one on the SM legion aircraft.

I think the Leman Russ can be fixed with the Siege of Vraks extra air filters, and trench rails...at least then it's profile looks pretty cool. Personally I really dislike ALL of the Ork infantry, but I do really like their trukks, buggies and bikes.

IMO, the worst model to me is the standard Terminator model. I frakking hate it, but I love the Chaos Terminators.

I hate this fething thing....

Worst design for a aircraft I've ever seen, something that completely defies physicist and is something I would of thought a child designed.

Terrible model!

 Yak9UT wrote:


I hate this fething thing....

Worst design for a aircraft I've ever seen, something that completely defies physicist and is something I would of thought a child designed.

Terrible model!

Physics aside, I actually really like it. It looks like a hovercraft designed to combat infantry on the ground, and less as a plane. I dunno, it looks perfect for what it's supposed to be.

I agree, apart from the massive cockpit I find myself kind of liking the model. It looks an Apache or any other helicopter gunship updates for the SM.

I like that flier. I mean, it's not a Manta, but it looks quite nice and sleek.

To me, that flyer looks awful.

It's like the people designing each piece were locked in separate cupboards, and had no idea what sizes the other guys were going for.

When I stopped thinking of it as a fighter jet and considered it an attack helicopter, it started to look a lot better. The right frame of mind help that model immensely.

Not that it doesn’t have some flaws. A smaller chin turret would go a long way to helping it out, maybe move the pod weapons back. It’s nose heavy.

 Nevelon wrote:
When I stopped thinking of it as a fighter jet and considered it an attack helicopter, it started to look a lot better. The right frame of mind help that model immensely.

Not that it doesn’t have some flaws. A smaller chin turret would go a long way to helping it out, maybe move the pod weapons back. It’s nose heavy.

It's to compensate for all the antigravs attached to the pilot's chair.
Who needs a parachute when you can float off into space?

 vipoid wrote:
To me, that flyer looks awful.

It's like the people designing each piece were locked in separate cupboards, and had no idea what sizes the other guys were going for.

I think it looks completely fine. That's subjectivity for you.

I'm not sure why we're arguing over the state of the Stormraven and the Sunshark (go weather effect, go animal!), when we have this thing!



It's probably just me, but 'flying shoebox' comes to mind...

It looks slightly like a dog's face.

The front top air intake is the nose, the boarding ramp is the mouth, etc

 Tarvitz77 wrote:
I'm not sure why we're arguing over the state of the Stormraven and the Sunshark (go weather effect, go animal!), when we have this thing!



It's probably just me, but 'flying shoebox' comes to mind...

The overall shape of it doesn’t bother me. It’s obviously held up with anti-grav plates, and is reminiscent of an old school landing boat.

The two unforgivable things about it are the weapon arcs, and the wolfy bits. What are those lascannons going to hit?

I can understand chaining pelts and skulls to tanks. But trans-orbital flyers? Best case, they are going to burn off the first time you hit orbit. Worst case they are going to snap off and get sucked into the engine, and cause a crash. Even just being there is going to generate a massive amount of drag.

 Tarvitz77 wrote:
I'm not sure why we're arguing over the state of the Stormraven and the Sunshark (go weather effect, go animal!), when we have this thing!



It's probably just me, but 'flying shoebox' comes to mind...

Oh god burn it!

But... But...

 Matthew wrote:
But... But...

I kinda like that one. It's a nice pose, no? I mean, still derpy as feth because space wolves, but in a better way than santa!

I mean, the wolf is fat!

 Matthew wrote:
I mean, the wolf is fat!

He's just fluffy!

 LeCacty wrote:

 Matthew wrote:
I mean, the wolf is fat!

He's just fluffy!

FAT LIVES MATTER

...wait what

Everybody should post exactly why they don't like the model they are proposing. The analyes are more interesting than the models.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Everybody should post exactly why they don't like the model they are proposing. The analyes are more interesting than the models.

I concur.

 Yak9UT wrote:


I hate this fething thing....

Worst design for a aircraft I've ever seen, something that completely defies physicist and is something I would of thought a child designed.

Terrible model!

It just needs a longer tail:






Personaly, I think that the Darkshroud is by far the worst, with Centurions a close second. Though Santa Claws takes the cake on the sillyness level.

Very nice with a longer tail! I dont understand the hate of the darkshroud. Could somebody explain their positions on it?

Does everyone hate Space Wolves now? I was just getting flak for our power armoured Marines being over-adorned. I just told the guy that ALL Marines are illustrated with that sort of detail, we just get it on the models!

As for some of the "wolfier" stuff, I do concur that things have gone towards the bizarre. I tried for so long to avoid getting TWC but eventually caved and now have 6. "Santa Claws" as he is named will never find a home in my collection, which is a shame since I would definitely have bought Logan solo if they released him for a comparable price to all the other Terminator HQs. I actually like the Stormwolf, having made the (head-canon) excuse that it must be a retro fitted Assault Ram. Still don't have one though, not for a hundred bucks with dubious usefulness.

 LeCacty wrote:
Very nice with a longer tail! I dont understand the hate of the darkshroud. Could somebody explain their positions on it?

To me, the model just doesn't flow together well. It looks like someone glued two Landspeeders together and then reached into their bits box to glue random parts onto it without any thought at all. Parts of don't even make sense like that Marine gunner in that foward turret. It looks so tacked on and impractical. Not to mention that he is super exposed up there in that tiny turret.

There are several things I dislike for personal reasons of aesthetics or my perception of 'realism' (the taurox's idiot side guns for example of impracticality breaching that realism, or Draigo and his idiot 'soul patch' and 'galaxy's most punchable face' for personal choices of aesthetics).

But these really stand out as stinkers for me, not only are they so entirely awful to look at, but they are recent. They come a good deal after the widely panned and disliked obliterators and somehow managed to out-crap them.




Absolutely dire.

They kinda look like Mega nobz trying to disguise themselves as Chaos Marines.

everyone knows GW's worst model is their business model

I don't have any issue with models in generals. I'm not someone obsessing over boxy/reversed wing flyer I find them amusing and different than the more traditional flyer you would see in another IP. I don't mind "santa Grimnar" and the like. I mean everything is over the top in 40k. You got people fighting with chainsword... So why not a viking on a sled?

This below however is horrible sculpting. It has nothing to do with the design choice or anything. It's just bad and they should feel bad.



If I have to go with a more recent model I would go with the Mutilator. Like the Sister above, the head is simply the work of legends.

 Mantorok wrote:
My personal hatred belongs to the old eldar wraithknight, which my friend has run on several occasions in his D spam.
I always argue that it should fire at BS 1 since its cannons aren't pointed at me.

That's an old Eldar Towering Destroyer knight titan, NOT a "wraithknight" - and it's technically an Armorcast (under licence) 40k scaled EPIC figure (6mm scaled up - yes, the 6mm was equally hideous).

 A Watcher In The Dark wrote:
I don't have any issue with models in generals. I'm not someone obsessing over boxy/reversed wing flyer I find them amusing and different than the more traditional flyer you would see in another IP. I don't mind "santa Grimnar" and the like. I mean everything is over the top in 40k. You got people fighting with chainsword... So why not a viking on a sled?

This below however is horrible sculpting. It has nothing to do with the design choice or anything. It's just bad and they should feel bad.

Spoiler:

If I have to go with a more recent model I would go with the Mutilator. Like the Sister above, the head is simply the work of legends.

Spoiler:

I think the dialogus would be an example of the opposite of most of the models here: Good concept, terrible execution.

 Matthew wrote:
I mean, the wolf is fat!

If it was actually fat, then it would probably just be amusing. However, it looks like it's storing its fat in a hump on its back.

Also, that face does not resemble a wolf. I don't know what it is - possibly a daemon of some description - but it's not a wolf. In fact, to me it looks more like an ork wearing a bad mask. Hell, perhaps we're looking at an ork pantomime wolf, with one ork at the back and two at the front having a fight (hence the 'fat' there).

looks like a fat car.... way too stubby. Not enough badass to it all.


anything sororitas is ugly. They can really do a better job on those faces.


wtf is that thing


looks like hes corkin' a turd


for badass in-game rules, he looks like a gakker.


most astartes HQs look horrible... not enough bad ass to them, they need better poses. The new librarians look awesome, tho.



the fuq AM... wtf.

I can understand why Catachans are there, but Vostroyans? Those are some of the best IG miniatures GW makes. Way better than Cadians.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
I can understand why Catachans are there, but Vostroyans? Those are some of the best IG miniatures GW makes. Way better than Cadians.

Agreed.

 LeCacty wrote:
Very nice with a longer tail! I dont understand the hate of the darkshroud. Could somebody explain their positions on it?

For me:
1) The gunner is inexplicably positionned in that awkward-looking cuppola instead of next to the pilot like on a regular Land Speeder.
2) The engines look like they would snap off the hull and speed off over the horizon on their own if the pilot yanked on the throttle too hard and too fast.
3) It's carrying a piece of a building. I understand that appeals to some, but I just think it looks ridiculous myself.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
I can understand why Catachans are there, but Vostroyans? Those are some of the best IG miniatures GW makes. Way better than Cadians.

Yea... Those hold up to most modern kits... If only they got a plastic kit.........


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Deschenus Maximus wrote:

 LeCacty wrote:
Very nice with a longer tail! I dont understand the hate of the darkshroud. Could somebody explain their positions on it?

For me:
1) The gunner is inexplicably positionned in that awkward-looking cuppola instead of next to the pilot like on a regular Land Speeder.
2) The engines look like they would snap off the hull and speed off over the horizon on their own if the pilot yanked on the throttle too hard and too fast.
3) It's carrying a piece of a building. I understand that appeals to some, but I just think it looks ridiculous myself.

Ah, I like the very gothic look of it. To each there own.

 LeCacty wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
I can understand why Catachans are there, but Vostroyans? Those are some of the best IG miniatures GW makes. Way better than Cadians.

Yea... Those hold up to most modern kits... If only they got a plastic kit.........

If only... If there were plastic Vostroyans I'd probably already have an army of them.

 poolatka wrote:


the fuq AM... wtf.

What's wrong with this?

 LeCacty wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
I can understand why Catachans are there, but Vostroyans? Those are some of the best IG miniatures GW makes. Way better than Cadians.

Yea... Those hold up to most modern kits... If only they got a plastic kit.........

Even if they did, they'd probably still end up being more expensive.

At least they'd have more options.

Sadly GW has removed a lot of the alternate sergeants as well as their special/heavy weapon models from the range.

I could see them being the same price as most 10 man squads. Hell, give each of the major reg's a supplement book!

 Tinkrr wrote:

 poolatka wrote:


the fuq AM... wtf.

What's wrong with this?

They look like they should be guarding the wicked witch from oz the guys who sing.

Even the one on the right with the badass mask?

OgreChubbs wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 poolatka wrote:


the fuq AM... wtf.

What's wrong with this?

They look like they should be guarding the wicked witch from oz the guys who sing.

I would pay so much to see them in that setting.

Murrdox wrote:


So Logan Grimnar? I would nominate for most ridiculous model concept. But as a model, it's actually REALLY well done.

Exalted.

1st place: Matrishka marines (Centurians). You took a pudgy model and made it pudgier
2nd: Mutilators. It looks like someone took Lightning claw chaos Termies and smudged them a little then made that into a model
vehicle: Lord of skulls. Arms can only point forward, poor guy.

Dishonourable mention: Great unclean one... For a daemon thats still a sin to the eyes

OgreChubbs wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 poolatka wrote:


the fuq AM... wtf.

What's wrong with this?

They look like they should be guarding the wicked witch from oz the guys who sing.

I already like them, you don't have to sell them to me more D:

 Matthew wrote:
I mean, the wolf is fat!

He needs a big layer of fat, especially around the neck. Just imagine Canis actually uses the reins...

I don't understand what's wrong with the Dialogis - I like the model.

Don't know if these pretty guys were already mentioned...

Those aren't current models, so they dont count.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

I don't understand what's wrong with the Dialogis - I like the model.

You don't understand how it looks like my 10 year old niece assembled the model (especially the face) by play-doh and then had it painted by the 'Eavy Metal team?

Giving it a better head, maybe skitarii, would fix a lot IMO.

 j31c3n wrote:

You don't understand how it looks like my 10 year old niece assembled the model (especially the face) by play-doh and then had it painted by the 'Eavy Metal team?

Well, no? The face looks like that of a nerd girl and a bit goofy (it surely doesn't help that the goggles look like actual eyes with the paintjob), yes. The rest of the model... your niece is really talented!

As to Jain Zar being on this thread... do you have any idea how old that mini is?!? When it and the other phoenix lords came out everyone was blown away. Nothing in as dynamic a pose had been done before her and taking a swipe at the mini now, when it's far older a sculpt than the likely majority of people posting on dakka, is a wee bit unjust.

So could someone explain me why Jain Zarr is supposed to be bad enough to be GWs ugliest current model, while Maugan Ra somehow is supposed to be a great model?

Asking seriously here. One is dynamic and rather sleek, while the other is more static and lumpy.