Preview #1: Warhammer 40k Warzone Charadon! Act I: The Book of Rust.
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Metalica is going to get attacked. Things do not sound like they're going to go well! Death Guard, Mechanicus, Knights, and Sisters are all apparently going to get 'something' as part of it. Drukhari are apparently involved too. Crusade mission pack "Plague Purge" accompanies it. Dark Angels Supplement confirmed as the next codex release.
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DRUKHARI! confirmed to be with DA!
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Preview #2: Newcromunda! House of Artifice confirmed. There's some heckin' hoverboarders!
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Archaeotechs, the new Champion, and Neotechs, the new pseudo-juves.
Preview #3: Treebeard. Gorgeous model but dagnabbit!
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Preview #4: Underworlds! Khagra's Ravagers, Slaves to Darkness warband!
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Preview #5: Hedonites! Sigvald! New Mortal followers!
-codex death guard and models details
-broken realms neverborn and neverborn model
-mayyyyybe fulgrim but thats a big maybe
-next necromunda book
-january xeno codex
Ooh intriguing So I'm gonna guess Slaanesh and Nurgle for Aos and 40K respectively. Necromunda will be the next "House of" book(s) and the respective gang expansions. Underworlds will be more warbands for the next season. And LoTR will be of zero interest to me
The next Broken Realms book+accompanying items Van Saar+updated roadmap Underworlds season reveal/roadmap New Middle Earth 'starter box' Death Guard+BA reveals Updated roadmap for 40k and AoS both
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lord_blackfang wrote: Gitz, Ogre, Tau and IG battleforces are spoiled in the preview.
That was just the weekly 'at a glance' bit, but good spot. We'll likely see an article about them this week.
They kinda deserve their own thread.There's usually 6-8 so there's a few more yet to see.
For starting out with, yes, and quite packed. But there's massive overlap with last year's, and Hoppers are in literally every Gitz bundle ever made. Gitz have a huge plastic range, I wish bundles explored more of it.
Do we think the price range is going to be about what it was last year? Someone who knows the armies that have the pics want to make a guess? IIRC last year they ran for about 2 Start Collecting boxes.
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
I've been thinking for a while that they were going to be in this edition, didn't expect a preview so soon though!
I suspect we'll see both Maggotkin and Deathguard. Maggotkin are really due for a new battletome.
I don't think we will be getting any Hedonite stuff though. I think Slaanesh mortals will come later as we progress through the Broken Realms storyline.
Sasori wrote: Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
I've been thinking for a while that they were going to be in this edition, didn't expect a preview so soon though!
I suspect we'll see both Maggotkin and Deathguard. Maggotkin are really due for a new battletome.
I don't think we will be getting any Hedonite stuff though. I think Slaanesh mortals will come later as we progress through the Broken Realms storyline.
Considering how broken realms morathi ended and the hedonite coin? I think it's going to be a teaser for Slaanesh mortals.
Slaanesh Mortals is basically the big gap in the Slaanesh range right now. They don't need any more demonic leader models and whilst more demon models would be nice; its clear that mortals are their next focus.
I just hope it comes with a big update to depravity so that you actually have a reason to take the models. The White Dwarf "mortal" battleforce made me laugh a bit because they basically gave the mortal leader for it (the pair of models on one base) a double depravity generating aura. Soooo basically you could take it and take less leaders or (shock horror idea) why not take it and take all keepers and get double your depravity on one segment of the battlefield!
As in the roadmap for the rest of 2020? Why would that matter? Were EC to be teased/shown off in this preview they'd almost assuredly be a 2021 release anyway
Nevelon wrote: Do we think the price range is going to be about what it was last year? Someone who knows the armies that have the pics want to make a guess? IIRC last year they ran for about 2 Start Collecting boxes.
From what I can remember, Battleforce boxes have always been £100 each, but they also do some terrain boxes sometimes (not sure on the price of those), and mega paint bundles too (more than £100 iirc).
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some follow-up talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
I agree that there's very little chance of EC, but it will most assuredly be more than just the already-previewed Underworlds warband and already-released DoK/Hedonites box.
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some follow-up talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
I agree that there's very little chance of EC, but it will most assuredly be more than just the already-previewed Underworlds warband and already-released DoK/Hedonites box.
Hmmm. Given how the online previews have gone this year, I think assuring yourself that there will be more is a good way to be disappointed.
I can only think of one where I was honestly impressed, the rest fell well below my expectations, even as my expectations dropped with each one.
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some [edited: follow-up] talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
Don't rain on my parade. It's Fulgrim O clock this Saturday.
Why spread fake rumors?
It's my own speculation from the preview article, I'm not passing it off as official rumor from some source or anything.
Every time someone does that, it gets picked up somewhere else, then comes back here as 'real rumor.' And then people get cranky that it didn't happen. Better to nip baseless speculation in the bud.
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some [edited: follow-up] talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
Don't rain on my parade. It's Fulgrim O clock this Saturday.
Why spread fake rumors?
It's my own speculation from the preview article, I'm not passing it off as official rumor from some source or anything.
Every time someone does that, it gets picked up somewhere else, then comes back here as 'real rumor.' And then people get cranky that it didn't happen. Better to nip baseless speculation in the bud.
If we moderated ourselves to not say things that Spikybits and other such "news" outlets repeat as rumour we'd not be able to say anything at all
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some follow-up talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
They wouldn't talk about things that have already been revealed at a preview day--beyond solidifying dates for releases. And Shadow+Pain is out in the wilds as of yesterday.
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some follow-up talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
I agree that there's very little chance of EC, but it will most assuredly be more than just the already-previewed Underworlds warband and already-released DoK/Hedonites box.
Hmmm. Given how the online previews have gone this year, I think assuring yourself that there will be more is a good way to be disappointed.
I can only think of one where I was honestly impressed, the rest fell well below my expectations, even as my expectations dropped with each one.
Emps Children are coming, it's time. All aboard the Fulgrim train.
Nope. Nothing to indicate that at all.
Odds are good its just the Underworlds band, and some [edited: follow-up] talk about the dual DoK/Hedonites box.
Don't rain on my parade. It's Fulgrim O clock this Saturday.
Why spread fake rumors?
It's my own speculation from the preview article, I'm not passing it off as official rumor from some source or anything.
Every time someone does that, it gets picked up somewhere else, then comes back here as 'real rumor.' And then people get cranky that it didn't happen. Better to nip baseless speculation in the bud.
It's not baseless. We have a preview that is specifically calling out Slaanesh in Decadence, and these Saturday Previews are almost always new things, so that likely eliminates the boxset that just came out and Direchasm, which has been fully revealed.
Slaanesh Daemons just got a release last year, so I don't think we are seeing those. That leaves Slaanesh Mortals, which look very possible thanks to Broken realms and the Possibility of Emps Children.
Also, there is no rules against speculation in these threads, it's done all the time. If you don't like it, feel free to ignore my posts.
The only credence I would, personally, give to Hedonites as a possibility is because their book was widely considered OP at a mechanical level. We saw Blades of Khorne/Bloodbound get a similar 'quickfix' treatment.
I don't think it's time for Emperor's Children yet. And if it was, I doubt it would be tied to AoS mortal stuff.
Kanluwen wrote: The only credence I would, personally, give to Hedonites as a possibility is because their book was widely considered OP at a mechanical level. We saw Blades of Khorne/Bloodbound get a similar 'quickfix' treatment.
I don't think it's time for Emperor's Children yet. And if it was, I doubt it would be tied to AoS mortal stuff.
I do admit, it is probably a lot more likely that we see Slaanesh mortals than Emps Children. Honestly, the Hedonite tome is a pretty boring battletome since it's basically built around summoning and not much else. I would love a rewrite of it, that included mortals. I would just think they'd save that mortal previews for a little further down the line, since it seems like an endgame situation for Broken Realms.
Wonder what the NewBorn will look like. Hopefully something different from the Avatar of Ynnead. Yncarne is cool, but since we've already had it serve as the new eldar god, I want the Newborn to be something unique, but still slaaneshy.
Also, GW, show off the full Seraphon under world team, or another warband, pleeeease.
GaroRobe wrote: Wonder what the NewBorn will look like. Hopefully something different from the Avatar of Ynnead. Yncarne is cool, but since we've already had it serve as the new eldar god, I want the Newborn to be something unique, but still slaaneshy.
GaroRobe wrote: Wonder what the NewBorn will look like. Hopefully something different from the Avatar of Ynnead. Yncarne is cool, but since we've already had it serve as the new eldar god, I want the Newborn to be something unique, but still slaaneshy.
The whatnow?
What are you referring to?
Spoilers spoilers spoilers for AOS
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In the end of the new AOS book, Slaanesh gave birth a new god. It then proceeded to follow Morathi into the mortal realms. When it spoke to its followers, a lot of them died from sheer exctasy. So people are predicting this will be the plot of the second AOS Shattered Realm book, as well as a new model for Hedonites.
GaroRobe wrote: Wonder what the NewBorn will look like. Hopefully something different from the Avatar of Ynnead. Yncarne is cool, but since we've already had it serve as the new eldar god, I want the Newborn to be something unique, but still slaaneshy.
The whatnow?
What are you referring to?
In Age of Sigmar the recent major event in the Morathi book that came out yesterday was
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Slaanesh, who is generally described in AoS lore with a male pronoun, gave birth. The spawn escaped the prison Slaanesh is in when Morathi breached it to steal the souls of the Elf Kings from the Old World. It then fled her keep and slammed into the ground to be quickly surrounded by the follows of Slaanesh. It's a newborn creature from the dark god and we've no idea what it looks like or what it does or anything.
GaroRobe wrote: Wonder what the NewBorn will look like. Hopefully something different from the Avatar of Ynnead. Yncarne is cool, but since we've already had it serve as the new eldar god, I want the Newborn to be something unique, but still slaaneshy.
The whatnow?
What are you referring to?
Spoilers spoilers spoilers for AOS
Spoiler:
In the end of the new AOS book, Slaanesh gave birth a new god. It then proceeded to follow Morathi into the mortal realms. When it spoke to its followers, a lot of them died from sheer exctasy. So people are predicting this will be the plot of the second AOS Shattered Realm book, as well as a new model for Hedonites.
Spoiler:
Based on what GW said in the most recent article, I'd take it that the Newborn is the new Slaanesh. It's no more likely to receive an actual model than any of the other Ruinous Powers
GaroRobe wrote: Wonder what the NewBorn will look like. Hopefully something different from the Avatar of Ynnead. Yncarne is cool, but since we've already had it serve as the new eldar god, I want the Newborn to be something unique, but still slaaneshy.
The whatnow?
What are you referring to?
In Age of Sigmar the recent major event in the Morathi book that came out yesterday was
Spoiler:
Slaanesh, who is generally described in AoS lore with a male pronoun, gave birth. The spawn escaped the prison Slaanesh is in when Morathi breached it to steal the souls of the Elf Kings from the Old World. It then fled her keep and slammed into the ground to be quickly surrounded by the follows of Slaanesh. It's a newborn creature from the dark god and we've no idea what it looks like or what it does or anything.
Slaanesh has always been referred to with male pronouns despite being always depicted as hermaphroditic.
Maybe, but Gods are pretty common in AoS. Nagash, Teclis, Morathi, the Everqueen, etc are all "god-tier" characters but also have a physical model. The [redacted] would be a good way to have a chaos equivalent, besides Archaon. Something Daemon Primarch tier, to use a 40k analogy
I do admit, it is probably a lot more likely that we see Slaanesh mortals than Emps Children. Honestly, the Hedonite tome is a pretty boring battletome since it's basically built around summoning and not much else. I would love a rewrite of it, that included mortals. I would just think they'd save that mortal previews for a little further down the line, since it seems like an endgame situation for Broken Realms.
Quite the contrary, the mortal stuff has been long overdue at this point. It's been teased at long before Hedonites the book came out and is why it was silly that it released without a heavy mortal contingent.
Best bet for Emperor's Children is if Hedonites get Slaangors as a new unit, not dissimilar to Tzaangors for Disciples of Tzeentch and Thousand Sons, and that's if we're all very lucky
I do admit, it is probably a lot more likely that we see Slaanesh mortals than Emps Children. Honestly, the Hedonite tome is a pretty boring battletome since it's basically built around summoning and not much else. I would love a rewrite of it, that included mortals. I would just think they'd save that mortal previews for a little further down the line, since it seems like an endgame situation for Broken Realms.
Quite the contrary, the mortal stuff has been long overdue at this point. It's been teased at long before Hedonites the book came out and is why it was silly that it released without a heavy mortal contingent.
Screw that, no offense. Slaanesh got a model release roughly equivalent to the entire DoK line barely a year ago and has kept up release for release since then. Combine that with how doggak Broken realms Morathi was rules wise, it would be desperately unfair for them to get more stuff this soon. Even worse for armies like LoN who have been waiting for longer or Beastmen/ Skaven who didn't get a real refresh with their tomes.
I do admit, it is probably a lot more likely that we see Slaanesh mortals than Emps Children. Honestly, the Hedonite tome is a pretty boring battletome since it's basically built around summoning and not much else. I would love a rewrite of it, that included mortals. I would just think they'd save that mortal previews for a little further down the line, since it seems like an endgame situation for Broken Realms.
Quite the contrary, the mortal stuff has been long overdue at this point. It's been teased at long before Hedonites the book came out and is why it was silly that it released without a heavy mortal contingent.
Screw that, no offense. Slaanesh got a model release roughly equivalent to the entire DoK line barely a year ago and has kept up release for release since then. Combine that with how doggak Broken realms Morathi was rules wise, it would be desperately unfair for them to get more stuff this soon. Even worse for armies like LoN who have been waiting for longer or Beastmen/ Skaven who didn't get a real refresh with their tomes.
Slaanesh is the only chaos god that lacks mortal forces, it was going to come eventually. The current hedonite book is basically a demon battletome. You can't even take a certain command trait because of the lack of mortals and keywords. It's a barebones book. There is a reason why all you saw was keepers when people ran the army.
For Middle Earth I am expecting a new Treebeard as the current (really undersized model) has just been discontinued. Wouldn't be surprised to see a new Ent kit alongside as well.
Scottywan82 wrote: I feel like I am missing something. Are the only preorders next week the LOTR stuff?
Yep its a 2 week pre-order on Bloodbowl. Considering its only £85 for a full 2 team starter set and everything in the box its fantastic value and its basically a "new edition" box for BB. So I expect it and the rulebook and other accessories to be selling really powerfully to the BB community.
Dunno- the seeming promise of something Slaanesh makes me hopeful for a January release for Slaanesh mortals, or at the very least something new for them in Jan.
Well I am looking forward to seeing some more info on Underworlds, doubt it will be new warbands but just further info on the new core will be interesting (not that I have been able to watch the video yet as I am at work).
If "Decay" is a reference to the new Death Guard codex it will be nice to get a look at the first Chaos codex of 9th edition. Maybe it will provide some clues as to how gwwl will be handling the other Legions in 9th.
Kanluwen wrote: The only credence I would, personally, give to Hedonites as a possibility is because their book was widely considered OP at a mechanical level. We saw Blades of Khorne/Bloodbound get a similar 'quickfix' treatment.
I don't think it's time for Emperor's Children yet. And if it was, I doubt it would be tied to AoS mortal stuff.
I do admit, it is probably a lot more likely that we see Slaanesh mortals than Emps Children. Honestly, the Hedonite tome is a pretty boring battletome since it's basically built around summoning and not much else. I would love a rewrite of it, that included mortals. I would just think they'd save that mortal previews for a little further down the line, since it seems like an endgame situation for Broken Realms.
Broken realm end game is AOS v3. And at least 40kPA start was totally unrelated to the 9th ed. Wouldn\t read from start hints of end.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I suspect the "Decay" part to be related to the bloody dozens of undead-themed rumor engines we've seen over the past several months
Maybe. Or the DG book we know about.
With like 2 weeks before it looks to be in store would feel weird to dedicate preview room for that. Week later would start regular previews.
it doesn't seem that strange, it will just depend on the amount of models that will be released with the codex. We already know 2 of them (hq and terrain)
bullyboy wrote: It's all a bit of a wet drip ending to the year really, and I doubt they will show anything really spectacular this Saturday either.
Wet Drip Ending? AoS just had a very favourably received campaign and lore book; Bloodbowl is getting a 3rd season; Necromunda is getting phyrrcats and just had another army book drop. Granted 40K has lagged a little with the necron and marine content, but its been a huge year for updates, especially for Necrons.
bullyboy wrote: It's all a bit of a wet drip ending to the year really, and I doubt they will show anything really spectacular this Saturday either.
Wet Drip Ending? AoS just had a very favourably received campaign and lore book; Bloodbowl is getting a 3rd season; Necromunda is getting phyrrcats and just had another army book drop. Granted 40K has lagged a little with the necron and marine content, but its been a huge year for updates, especially for Necrons.
Unless there's new edition and 100's of new models all the time some people are never happy.
GW told us there is a coin each month themed around the key release, the first 3, in order, are Daughter of Khaine, Death Guard and Hedonites of Slaanesh.
We have a "decay and decadence" preview.
Death guard = decay, hedonites = decadence.
Why all the posts about sigmar undead and emperors children, it's not like they've been subtle.
If you want to extrapolate slightly, the fact the coin is keyed to the main release tells us death guard probably have the most substantial release for December, more than 1 character and a piece of terrain as currently assumed.
Edit, image of the coins in case people missed them:
Deathguard will literally be book. Cards, hq and terrain, plus a combat patrol.
I suspect t the preview is going to be DG, Hedonites, Xmas boxes (which usually launch week before Christmas ; this year I suspect first week in December preorder as the Courier Crunch looms like a Christmas bogeyman .......
TwilightSparkles wrote: Deathguard will literally be book. Cards, hq and terrain, plus a combat patrol.
I suspect t the preview is going to be DG, Hedonites, Xmas boxes (which usually launch week before Christmas ; this year I suspect first week in December preorder as the Courier Crunch looms like a Christmas bogeyman .......
What's in the combat patrol since it can't be the dark imperium half and 2 HQ's and a fast attack don't have models you can buy?
GW told us there is a coin each month themed around the key release, the first 3, in order, are Daughter of Khaine, Death Guard and Hedonites of Slaanesh.
We have a "decay and decadence" preview.
Death guard = decay, hedonites = decadence.
Why all the posts about sigmar undead and emperors children, it's not like they've been subtle.
If you want to extrapolate slightly, the fact the coin is keyed to the main release tells us death guard probably have the most substantial release for December, more than 1 character and a piece of terrain as currently assumed.
Oddity with DG in twitch preview is that even without twitch preview we would be only 8 days from seeing all the DG stuff anyway. Not much of a preview. So far twitch previews have been more than week ahead previews.
We also know there's death models to AOS inbound and it starts to be about time something should be heard of them. Plus death and decay go together.
GW told us there is a coin each month themed around the key release, the first 3, in order, are Daughter of Khaine, Death Guard and Hedonites of Slaanesh.
We have a "decay and decadence" preview.
Death guard = decay, hedonites = decadence.
Why all the posts about sigmar undead and emperors children, it's not like they've been subtle.
If you want to extrapolate slightly, the fact the coin is keyed to the main release tells us death guard probably have the most substantial release for December, more than 1 character and a piece of terrain as currently assumed.
Oddity with DG in twitch preview is that even without twitch preview we would be only 8 days from seeing all the DG stuff anyway. Not much of a preview. So far twitch previews have been more than week ahead previews.
We also know there's death models to AOS inbound and it starts to be about time something should be heard of them. Plus death and decay go together.
If death guard are middle of December then it might be more than 8 days, it could reasonably still be a month out now.
Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
GaroRobe wrote: Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
The 'silhouette' was a Sylvaneth related item more likely than anything else.
The rumor engines seemed tied to more WarCry or Underworlds.
GaroRobe wrote: Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
Well, if they don't re-release the DI models there is going to be some gap in the Death Guard line as a few heroes are only available in the DI box. Maggotkin of Nurgle is also a very old book that needs to be updated in AoS.
I imagine we'll see:
- Mortal Warriors of Slaanesh. May end up being kits available in 40k like Tzaangores were.
- Death Guard and Maggotkin kits and/or book.
- The next Broken Realm book that may involve Maggotkin(and maybe Slaanesh).
- What Xenos book will come out with the Dark Angels in January. My bet is Drukhari.
- The next two books after DA and Drukhari will be teased.
The big girl bet is Emperor's Children, but I wouldn't put much money on that as I feel they'd build it more around another big event(LVO/NOVA)
GaroRobe wrote: Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
I definitely am expecting a bit more from the DG release since you can't buy a myphitic blight hauler, lord of corruption or malignant plague caster any more.
There's still 1-2 unresolved rumour engine photos of nurgle stuff including a power fist iirc.
Something worth mentioning with regards to potential AoS/40k crossovers for Nurgle is there are a few things we've had in the orders of battle but nothing in-game yet.
We've had Pestigors and Maggoths both mentioned in 40k and AoS. Maggoths are the creature that is used as mounts for the three 'lords' that came with End Times(Morbidex Twiceborn, Bloab Rotspawned, and Orghotts Daemonspew) but are also mentioned as being used as warbeasts. A Maggoth with no rider could be the Behemoth option for Maggotkin and a large 'beastie' for Death Guard or Daemons of Nurgle forces, since they were apparently used in the DG invasion of the Ultramar system.
Additionally, given the tease we've had of the new Dryad looking item? I'm expecting Broken Realms: Alarielle to be the next entry in that series. Nurgle plays a big role as to what is going on in the Realm of Life and the continent of Kurnotheal(Kurnoth/Orion's old 'hunting grounds' that was kept stocked with Beastmen flowing out of Ghur) is still an active Nurgle hotspot in Ghyran.
GaroRobe wrote: Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
I definitely am expecting a bit more from the DG release since you can't buy a myphitic blight hauler, lord of corruption or malignant plague caster any more.
There's still 1-2 unresolved rumour engine photos of nurgle stuff including a power fist iirc.
The powerfist is from the new Death Guard model they previewed a few weeks back. Unless there's another one
GaroRobe wrote: Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
I definitely am expecting a bit more from the DG release since you can't buy a myphitic blight hauler, lord of corruption or malignant plague caster any more.
There's still 1-2 unresolved rumour engine photos of nurgle stuff including a power fist iirc.
The powerfist is from the new Death Guard model they previewed a few weeks back. Unless there's another one
GaroRobe wrote: Decay could and probably is death guard. But we have the "zombie" looking tree silhouette teased. And all the vampire themed rumor engines, with even a little tease in the new Morathi book about vampire like characters. So it could easily be a tease to them. It's not like we're expecting more Death Guard models, besides the terrain and the new HQ guy. Unless GW re-releases all the OOP models from DI
I definitely am expecting a bit more from the DG release since you can't buy a myphitic blight hauler, lord of corruption or malignant plague caster any more.
There's still 1-2 unresolved rumour engine photos of nurgle stuff including a power fist iirc.
The Myphitic Blight-Hauler is still available and is easy to build. Malignant Plaguecaster, Lord of Corruption, and Noxius Blightbringer are the only ones missing so far.
This one looks pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to the new Underworlds preview, as Direchasm is already revealed, everything now that we see will be entirely new.
My guess is we'll get the following for previews:
AoS: Slaanesh Mortals (A Dual infantry kit, Slaangors, possibly a character, and the newborn).
40k: Death Guard (which my guess will be nothing more than the new character, the new terrain, and a glance at the book. A quick look at the new combat patrol and new book. Also I think it's possible we might see a bit more on the whatever that Kill Team preview was about.
Underworlds: Probably a look at the first two new Warbands beyond the starter.
Necromunda: Van Saar stuff
Middle-Earth: Really no idea - lots of directions they could go.
Yeah. Drukhari as the next Xenos codex, alongside the new Lelith mini they teased a while ago? Seems a safe bet. I wonder about any kind of updated/new unit. The knife / shoulder pad on the teaser image kinda suggests wyches, but these don't really need a new kit ...?
They don't use shoulder pads or knives that small, but a wild guess could be Mandrakes. They wear rags and that's the kind of vibe I'm picking up from the picture.
Kanluwen wrote: As someone else pointed out, the pauldron feels more Kabalite than anything else.
I wouldn't be shocked if there's a 'lieutenant'/mid-tier HQ coming for the Kabalites.
My best buddy plays Drukhari and I’m guessing having a mid-tier HQ would be something he would be all over. They really don’t have a lot of non-unique character choices.
bullyboy wrote: It's all a bit of a wet drip ending to the year really, and I doubt they will show anything really spectacular this Saturday either.
Wet Drip Ending? AoS just had a very favourably received campaign and lore book; Bloodbowl is getting a 3rd season; Necromunda is getting phyrrcats and just had another army book drop. Granted 40K has lagged a little with the necron and marine content, but its been a huge year for updates, especially for Necrons.
Unless there's new edition and 100's of new models all the time some people are never happy.
I mean
Yes, there are loads of new models- Necrons and Marines.
It’s good that Necrons are getting an update, less so that Marines are. Yes, it makes perfect financial sense for GW, but I think it’s pretty damn rich to tell people to stop grumbling when they’re playing with 20-30 year old sculpts!
bullyboy wrote: It's all a bit of a wet drip ending to the year really, and I doubt they will show anything really spectacular this Saturday either.
Wet Drip Ending? AoS just had a very favourably received campaign and lore book; Bloodbowl is getting a 3rd season; Necromunda is getting phyrrcats and just had another army book drop. Granted 40K has lagged a little with the necron and marine content, but its been a huge year for updates, especially for Necrons.
Unless there's new edition and 100's of new models all the time some people are never happy.
I mean
Yes, there are loads of new models- Necrons and Marines.
It’s good that Necrons are getting an update, less so that Marines are. Yes, it makes perfect financial sense for GW, but I think it’s pretty damn rich to tell people to stop grumbling when they’re playing with 20-30 year old sculpts!
It might shock you that space marines are also in that list of armies with 20+ year old models iirc, pretty sure the bike squad was 2nd ed.
bullyboy wrote: It's all a bit of a wet drip ending to the year really, and I doubt they will show anything really spectacular this Saturday either.
Wet Drip Ending? AoS just had a very favourably received campaign and lore book; Bloodbowl is getting a 3rd season; Necromunda is getting phyrrcats and just had another army book drop. Granted 40K has lagged a little with the necron and marine content, but its been a huge year for updates, especially for Necrons.
Unless there's new edition and 100's of new models all the time some people are never happy.
I mean
Yes, there are loads of new models- Necrons and Marines.
It’s good that Necrons are getting an update, less so that Marines are. Yes, it makes perfect financial sense for GW, but I think it’s pretty damn rich to tell people to stop grumbling when they’re playing with 20-30 year old sculpts!
It might shock you that space marines are also in that list of armies with 20+ year old models iirc, pretty sure the bike squad was 2nd ed.
I don't know if that really counts as Space Marines just got Primaris bikers, which in all but GW coming out and saying "Firstborn don't exist" are the new SM bikes. GW pretty much only has rules for normal marines because 1). Lots of people have them and would be upset to not be able to use their current miniatures and 2). They have different equipment options which mean people occasionally buy a box.
That all said, I do think it's good that GW "finished up" (though this probably won't be the case....) the Primaris range with some CC troops. I do think stuff like "Heavy Intercessors" and what not could have definitely been put lower down the priority list when all the plastic guard infantry are 20 years old and look terrible compared to modern sculpts (there are other kits in the 40k range that are as old or older also, but haven't aged as poorly). It's one thing when an Elite choice is a kit that has aged poorly. It's entirely different when the core troop choice in your army has.
bullyboy wrote: It's all a bit of a wet drip ending to the year really, and I doubt they will show anything really spectacular this Saturday either.
Wet Drip Ending? AoS just had a very favourably received campaign and lore book; Bloodbowl is getting a 3rd season; Necromunda is getting phyrrcats and just had another army book drop. Granted 40K has lagged a little with the necron and marine content, but its been a huge year for updates, especially for Necrons.
Unless there's new edition and 100's of new models all the time some people are never happy.
I mean
Yes, there are loads of new models- Necrons and Marines.
It’s good that Necrons are getting an update, less so that Marines are. Yes, it makes perfect financial sense for GW, but I think it’s pretty damn rich to tell people to stop grumbling when they’re playing with 20-30 year old sculpts!
It might shock you that space marines are also in that list of armies with 20+ year old models iirc, pretty sure the bike squad was 2nd ed.
Not at all. There’s a difference, however, between one or two units and all- or most- of an army.
Togusa wrote: Wasn't there something in the 8th Eldar book about Slaanesh worshipping Eldar? Could that be this rumored new Xenos faction?
Slaanesh is the greatest foe the Eldar have, but also the greatest twisting agent for turning Eldar to Chaos. So that there are Eldar who worship chaos and Slaanesh is no shock. If anything it might be more abnormal that we don't have corrupted Eldar models. When you read some of the Craftworld stories you realise how much of an Eldar's personality has to be reined in and controlled and managed to keep them from overindulging in excess and being tempted swiftly to being corrupted by Chaos.
Togusa wrote: Wasn't there something in the 8th Eldar book about Slaanesh worshipping Eldar? Could that be this rumored new Xenos faction?
Slaanesh is the greatest foe the Eldar have, but also the greatest twisting agent for turning Eldar to Chaos. So that there are Eldar who worship chaos and Slaanesh is no shock. If anything it might be more abnormal that we don't have corrupted Eldar models. When you read some of the Craftworld stories you realise how much of an Eldar's personality has to be reined in and controlled and managed to keep them from overindulging in excess and being tempted swiftly to being corrupted by Chaos.
While they should exist in the lore, where would they find design space for the table? We already have evil spiky elves. What would Chaos Eldar add to the game? That would not be stepping on another factions toes pretty hard.
I’m not saying they couldn’t do it, or that there is not a huge amount of potential visually and modeling for it. But as value added to the game, I just don’t see it happening.
We probably will see Chaos Eldar in games like Blackstone Fortress one day. After all, Chao Aelves are a thing in AoS. One of the Warcry bands has a chaos aelf, which is just an aelf with fangs. But the new Morathi short story has a band of aeldar suffering from mutation by being too close to distilled chaos.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: were any of the old finecast dark eldar characters that went away missing from the Legends book?
If so this could be a return of them?
None of the missing characters ever had models, Finecast or otherwise. Dark Eldar have only ever had models of Vect, Lilith, Drazhar, and Rakarth for their named characters.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: were any of the old finecast dark eldar characters that went away missing from the Legends book?
If so this could be a return of them?
None of the missing characters ever had models, Finecast or otherwise. Dark Eldar have only ever had models of Vect, Lilith, Drazhar, and Rakarth for their named characters.
You're forgetting Kruella The Vile (if that's how you spell it)!
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: were any of the old finecast dark eldar characters that went away missing from the Legends book?
If so this could be a return of them?
None of the missing characters ever had models, Finecast or otherwise. Dark Eldar have only ever had models of Vect, Lilith, Drazhar, and Rakarth for their named characters.
Yep those lost DE Characters are in the same generation of the lost tyranid ones - when GW went through a phase (prior to Chapterhouse) of adding more and more characters to armies, but never giving them a model even if they did army releases for that force. It's one bonus of "no models no rules" that at least now we aren't left waiting codex after codex after codex for "models to appear" that never do.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: were any of the old finecast dark eldar characters that went away missing from the Legends book?
If so this could be a return of them?
None of the missing characters ever had models, Finecast or otherwise. Dark Eldar have only ever had models of Vect, Lilith, Drazhar, and Rakarth for their named characters.
You're forgetting Kruella The Vile (if that's how you spell it)!
Not a great model, or concept, so easy to forget.
You're right, I did. probably forgot about her because she didn't really make it past 3rd. Even back then, she just... wasn't good.
Remember that GW is great at previewing things that they've already shown off via WarCom, so there's every chance that the big Death Guard reveal is just the two models that we know of and they'll talk a bit about the Codex.
I'd be shockingly surprised if Emp's Children even came up.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Remember that GW is great at previewing things that they've already shown off via WarCom, so there's every chance that the big Death Guard reveal is just the two models that we know of and they'll talk a bit about the Codex.
I'd be shockingly surprised if Emp's Children even came up.
In fairness they've done more of that this year because everything has been royally messed up.
That said confirmation of previewed items at a reveal event is always good because often when its stuff they've shown before; the reveal event will come with a date or at least a date range.
Overread wrote: That said confirmation of previewed items at a reveal event is always good because often when its stuff they've shown before; the reveal event will come with a date or at least a date range.
It's not when you base a preview around something we already know about. They've done that a few times now.
"Thanks for joining our stream where we'll show you a minute and a half trailer of cameras swooping over a bunch of models we've already previewed whilst a smoke machine goes off and we use music from one of the various video games that have been made using our IP!"
It's either that or another Kill Team "teaser" where we learnt nothing (other than the distinct possibility that Necron and Marine players are going to be waiting even longer for their Flayed Ones/Assault Intercessors).
Overread wrote: That said confirmation of previewed items at a reveal event is always good because often when its stuff they've shown before; the reveal event will come with a date or at least a date range.
It's not when you base a preview around something we already know about. They've done that a few times now.
"Thanks for joining our stream where we'll show you a minute and a half trailer of cameras swooping over a bunch of models we've already previewed whilst a smoke machine goes off and we use music from one of the various video games that have been made using our IP!"
It's either that or another Kill Team "teaser" where we learnt nothing (other than the distinct possibility that Necron and Marine players are going to be waiting even longer for their Flayed Ones/Assault Intercessors).
Well don't forget not everyone views GW community pages each week. There's likely a significant number of customers who only view the website now and then and the rest of the time might only pay attention when a major event comes up and the emails land to remind people and all the social media sites go nuts about it.
Togusa wrote: Wasn't there something in the 8th Eldar book about Slaanesh worshipping Eldar? Could that be this rumored new Xenos faction?
Chaos Eldar have been in the lore for quite a while, but according to the lore they were small in number and generally restricted themselves to the Crone Worlds. The reason why there weren't all that many of them is because Slaanesh is really good at slurping up their souls. And iirc, it tends not to wait until the Eldar in question dies if said Eldar is closely aligned with Slaanesh (i.e. a worshipper). So Slaanesh-worshipping Eldar expose themselves to Slaanesh, who promptly turns them into an appetizer. Only particularly strong ones - i.e. the ones that hang out in and around the Crone Worlds - manage to avoid this fate.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Remember that GW is great at previewing things that they've already shown off via WarCom, so there's every chance that the big Death Guard reveal is just the two models that we know of and they'll talk a bit about the Codex.
I'd be shockingly surprised if Emp's Children even came up.
I think people that are getting their hopes up for DG will be disappointed. They already have a pretty new and pretty complete range, I don't see GW doing a major expansion soon. I'm with you in that I think they will get their new character and terrain. I think the other thing that will be revealed for them will be their Combat Patrol or a reboxing of the Dark Imperium stuff (since they have a few mini options only found in that set). Possibly both. Maybe a brief look at the Codex too.
DE will probably have Lilith shown off and likely a new character (also confirmation they are the January book).
We may get a bit more on the Kill Team front.
That's all I really expect for 40k.
I think the big reveal will be the new units for Hedonites in AoS.
We will most certainly be seeing at least one new Warband for Underworlds too, as the starter has already been covered in the last preview.
ME SBG will most likely be another resin character or two.
Necromunda will be Van Saar book and it's affiliated plastic kit.
Ooh. Doesn't appear to be particularly Slaanesh, so a generic dual-wielding Chaos Warrior in the updated style. Finally getting a kit with options for them, or maybe Underworlds?
Im like 90% sure thats just a slaves to darkness chaos warrior, probably getting an underworlds gang. Note the extended outline outside of image has same leather boots and plume+ spikes as the STD warriors leader
Mothman wrote: Im like 90% sure thats just a slaves to darkness chaos warrior, probably getting an underworlds gang. Note the extended outline outside of image has same leather boots and plume+ spikes as the STD warriors leader
Yeah, this is my guess as well, and if it turns out I couldn’t be happier. I’d love to have some proper Warriors in Underworlds. We also have a Chaos staff and Daemon-faced something (looks like a shield to me) from the rumor mill from a while back. I could see those fitting in here. Two Warriors and a Sorcerer perhaps.
... also, there's a unsolved rumour engine pic with a halberd that's similar enough to the Chaos Warriors resin (!) upgrade. So, Underworlds, or a Chaos Warriors kit with sword & shield / halberd build options ...
Looking at it again, I'm definitely leaning towards the Underworlds angle more than a proper kit. Seems there's a shield strapped to the back, poking over the left shoulder, which would make the dual weapons an otherwise impossible loadout for a regular Chaos Warrior, and the only model in the current range with that physical load out is the Exalted Hero Formerly Known As Crom. They also have a topknot, which tends to be reserved for Aspiring Champions or greater.
The final strike against it being a kit is that while it could accommodate a halberd by swapping out the main weapon and replacing the weapon in the offhand with a claimed trophy, the pose and the shield make it impossible to work with a greatblade. I still dream of a full kit that can somehow cover all four different Chaos Warrior loadouts, but this particular fella doesn't seem to be it.
Tim the Biovore wrote: Looking at it again, I'm definitely leaning towards the Underworlds angle more than a proper kit. Seems there's a shield strapped to the back, poking over the left shoulder, which would make the dual weapons an otherwise impossible loadout for a regular Chaos Warrior, and the only model in the current range with that physical load out is the Exalted Hero Formerly Known As Crom. They also have a topknot, which tends to be reserved for Aspiring Champions or greater.
The final strike against it being a kit is that while it could accommodate a halberd by swapping out the main weapon and replacing the weapon in the offhand with a claimed trophy, the pose and the shield make it impossible to work with a greatblade. I still dream of a full kit that can somehow cover all four different Chaos Warrior loadouts, but this particular fella doesn't seem to be it.
About loadouts, the current rules reflect what the current models have (or what the designers make of the current kit options). A new kit won't be beholden to that and if it opens up different loadouts, there'll be a new warscroll., Handily GW has just launched a series of campaign books in which such a new warscroll could be published.
I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, just that we can't rule out a new multipart Chaos Warriors kit based on current rules.
As far as I'm concerned, with the present absence of Slaaneshi mortals I'd prefer if the Chaos Warrior was indeed Underworlds. Now, ideally both Hedonites and Slaves to Darkness should get shiny new kits, but if I'm right in my suspicion that we'll sooner get one or the other than a broader Chaos update, I'd rather have Slaaneshi models myself. And with the title of preview calling out Slaanesh, I like to think I won't be terribly disappointed. Not sure GW would opt for "just use marked Slaves to Darkness" a second time. That would not be very nice.
The banners and chainsword looking thing, makes me unsure what the middle even is. The body of something?
Automatically Appended Next Post: But yeah artwork looking whatever it is, I’d say. Looking at the lower left of the non shadow picture (the centre picture as opposed to silhouette I mean)
Off the wall, wild speculation is that it's a new release wave for CSM. Warpsmith, Obliterator/Mutilator kit, and Cultists of the Negavolt and pewpewpew varieties.
Kanluwen wrote: Off the wall, wild speculation is that it's a new release wave for CSM. Warpsmith, Obliterator/Mutilator kit, and Cultists of the Negavolt and pewpewpew varieties.
Could very well be or very well end up beeing a lost and the damned line made out of the cultists of the abyss part of the Blackstone fortress line?
I would probably not get hopes up for tons of nurgle news, its likely just the new hero, codex, terrain and maybe announcement of a start collecting box. The decay will probably refer to combo of that and undead
Yeah you're almost certainly right. Wonder if we'll get a little bit of a DG codex preview like SM & Necrons did (although that was a specifically-branded codex preview, if I remember correctly)
I hope so. I'd hate to get something else whilst leaving that without a mini. Again.
They're almost certainly introducing new Champions (and Prospects) of sorts while leaving former resin-candidates without a model. I'd guess this is the new Van Saar champion, whatever it will be called. Which doesn't necessarily rule out the Arachnarig also getting a model of course; the Eschers after all got a late release of their Phyrr Cats (well, technically not yet, but they were announced and are presumably to be released before too long).
Marshal Loss wrote: Yeah you're almost certainly right. Wonder if we'll get a little bit of a DG codex preview like SM & Necrons did (although that was a specifically-branded codex preview, if I remember correctly)
I still feel that would be weird seeing next day we get announcement of codex and on monday previews of rules etc
Marshal Loss wrote: Yeah you're almost certainly right. Wonder if we'll get a little bit of a DG codex preview like SM & Necrons did (although that was a specifically-branded codex preview, if I remember correctly)
I still feel that would be weird seeing next day we get announcement of codex and on monday previews of rules etc
Also a fair point. Just trying to rationalise why they'd bother putting the "decay" bit into the title
tneva82 wrote: There's very strong hints of death models for aos.
Though if decadence is about mortal slaanesh for aos feels odd for 1game to own both titles
I wouldn’t think it that odd as the second half of this year has been almost exclusively about 40k with the new edition and all. It wouldn’t be that weird to kind of jam pack the first couple big releases for AoS into the first 3-4 months of next year.
That all said I think the Decay is for the Nurgle book, character, and terrain. They probably just chose the word Decay because of the slight theme and the alliteration.
I could see GW's original plan - Lumineth and Gargants in the first part of the year - middle segment dominated by Necrons and Marines and new 40K edition then last quarter being a swing back to AoS with another new/major army update.
Marshal Loss wrote: Yeah you're almost certainly right. Wonder if we'll get a little bit of a DG codex preview like SM & Necrons did (although that was a specifically-branded codex preview, if I remember correctly)
I still feel that would be weird seeing next day we get announcement of codex and on monday previews of rules etc
except we don't know exactly when death guard will go in pre-order, we're talking gw here, they've anounced things to come in month x only to go on pre-order on the last saturday of the month.
I hope so. I'd hate to get something else whilst leaving that without a mini. Again.
Well whatever it is has three arms one side at least, so seems a good bet.
Nothing else really comes to mind, something Ad Mech I suppose randomly. But Van Saar fits the preview theme likelihood.
I hope so. I'd hate to get something else whilst leaving that without a mini. Again.
Well whatever it is has three arms one side at least, so seems a good bet.
Nothing else really comes to mind, something Ad Mech I suppose randomly. But Van Saar fits the preview theme likelihood.
It’s definitely Van Saar, the question is more is it the Arachnarig, or something new? It’s probably their new Champion from Book of Artifice.
I really don't know what to make of this beyond maybe Aelf?
I'm thinking maybe the modern version of sigvald? (but hopefully not sigvald. I can't stand the trend of them bringing back old world characters; You already destroyed the old world- just be brave enough to move on, GW!
I really don't know what to make of this beyond maybe Aelf?
I'm thinking maybe the modern version of sigvald? (but hopefully not sigvald. I can't stand the trend of them bringing back old world characters; You already destroyed the old world- just be brave enough to move on, GW!
I mean to be fair, slaanesh has been given new characters in aos with shalaxi and syllesske + whatever the newborn ends up being having 1 old face back wont hurt. His rapier doesnt match the other one in rumour engine, so chance he is bringing mirror guard as a retinue for him.
Wishlist for mortals
10 man box of spears or bows
5-10 man slaangore box
3 man mirror guard elite bodyguard unit
sigvald
generic hero
The baby as centrepiece
And I can see the Sigvald influence. Similar indents in the armor.
Even the little jewelry dangling off his chest plate
Crackpot theory:
The Newborn is Slaanesh's favorite champion from the Old World, reborn. Sigvald's been marinating in Slaanesh juice for aeons, soaking up all that daemony goodness
We know its a hedonite, since it has the pointy shoulder pad the new hq and Underworld models have. Is the shoulder pad supposed to be a reference to the slaanesh symbol or just a random pointy thing?
The sword silhouette doesn't match Sigvald's, though it looks like it could still have the little snake wrapped around it...
I really don't know what to make of this beyond maybe Aelf?
I'm thinking maybe the modern version of sigvald? (but hopefully not sigvald. I can't stand the trend of them bringing back old world characters; You already destroyed the old world- just be brave enough to move on, GW!
I mean to be fair, slaanesh has been given new characters in aos with shalaxi and syllesske + whatever the newborn ends up being having 1 old face back wont hurt. His rapier doesnt match the other one in rumour engine, so chance he is bringing mirror guard as a retinue for him.
Wishlist for mortals
10 man box of spears or bows
5-10 man slaangore box
3 man mirror guard elite bodyguard unit
sigvald
generic hero
The baby as centrepiece
at a short ranged combat weapon to the 10 man box and I'm happy
If they do have a spear and bow version a la Underworlds, I feel like it would have to be two different kits. Off the top of my head, only Savage orcs and Night Goblins have both options in the kit (Kurnoth hunters too, I suppose). We'd probably get something more akin to the Idoneth Deepkin Reavers or the Lumineth Lord's
Dr. What wrote: Won't this be the Christmas preview? GW already announced the battleforces.
The Christmas preview is usually done at Christmas time. It would be done strictly via the Community page, not as a live event thing.
If they're going to drop a primarch, I don't think they'd wait any longer than tomorrow.
Teases at best for it.
GaroRobe wrote:If they do have a spear and bow version a la Underworlds, I feel like it would have to be two different kits. Off the top of my head, only Savage orcs and Night Goblins have both options in the kit (Kurnoth hunters too, I suppose). We'd probably get something more akin to the Idoneth Deepkin Reavers or the Lumineth Lord's
That assumes that the warband options from Underworlds will in fact see units. Sadly, that has not been the case or we would have had big axe wielding Tree-Revenant units or bow-wielding Tree-Revenant units.
If there's spearpeople and bowpeople? They're almost guaranteed to be separate kits for the strict purposes of posing and armor.
I really don't know what to make of this beyond maybe Aelf?
I'm thinking maybe the modern version of sigvald? (but hopefully not sigvald. I can't stand the trend of them bringing back old world characters; You already destroyed the old world- just be brave enough to move on, GW!
I mean to be fair, slaanesh has been given new characters in aos with shalaxi and syllesske + whatever the newborn ends up being having 1 old face back wont hurt. His rapier doesnt match the other one in rumour engine, so chance he is bringing mirror guard as a retinue for him.
Wishlist for mortals
10 man box of spears or bows
5-10 man slaangore box
3 man mirror guard elite bodyguard unit
sigvald
generic hero
The baby as centrepiece
at a short ranged combat weapon to the 10 man box and I'm happy
Why would you want small pokers instead of long poles? You're not making any sense.
Dr. What wrote: Won't this be the Christmas preview? GW already announced the battleforces.
If they're going to drop a primarch, I don't think they'd wait any longer than tomorrow.
It's more of a regular preview, really. We are reaching the end of what GW has previously announced. Aside from the codices up until January (of which we still don't know what the Xenos one will cover) and the new Underworlds starter box there are no big announced items left to release. So, time for a new preview that gives us a glimpse at what we can expect further out than January,
Nothing about this year's previews have been "regular". Usually these things are tied to in-person events which have been cancelled thanks to the craziness that has been this year.
Not gonna lie, I'm kind of liking this method a bit better.
All the releases up to Christmas are probably known.
More Marine stuff like Heavy Intercessors, Gladiator Tank, Storm Speeders, multi-part Blade Guard, etc.. with a BA supplement in the mix (and even some of those might only show up January).
Death Guard Codex with likely a Combat Patrol box that might include the new character.
Probably a Necron kit or two still missing (Flayed Ones?)?
Some Underworlds stuff, another AoS thing maybe and the Christmas bundles themselves.
That easily covers the remaining 5(?) pre-order Saturdays till Christmas.
Kanluwen wrote: Nothing about this year's previews have been "regular". Usually these things are tied to in-person events which have been cancelled thanks to the craziness that has been this year.
Not gonna lie, I'm kind of liking this method a bit better.
You could think of it as the new regular until the old regular isn't impossible to do anymore.
Personally it makes little difference to me. I'd have no means of attending the preview events and I usually don't watch the live streams, so for me it's a preview article on Warhammer Community either way.
December is, traditionally, a 'dead' month for preorders for the main games. We know Underworlds season 4 is coming but beyond that, it's likely to be boxed games related. It's also when the Battleforces are going to drop in all likelihood.
We know the BA supplement and Gladiator go up for preorder on Saturday the 28th. The Death Guard Codex is also a "December release", with no indications of the character being locked into anything.
We know there's a January codex for Imperium and the first non-Necron Xenos book. We also know that Kill Team is coming back in 2021 and the tease was Flayed Ones.
Flayed Ones seem to be next year as the trailer tied them to Kill Team. Could be the Crypteks tough.
Why would you think Flayed Ones will be released first with Kill Team, rather than just be included in Kill Team after they've had a standalone release? Does it make sense to tie in a 40K infantry release to a starter set for a different game so that they're only available in such an inconvenient fashion? Is there a precedent for this?
Flayed Ones seem to be next year as the trailer tied them to Kill Team. Could be the Crypteks tough.
Why would you think Flayed Ones will be released first with Kill Team, rather than just be included in Kill Team after they've had a standalone release? Does it make sense to tie in a 40K infantry release to a starter set for a different game so that they're only available in such an inconvenient fashion? Is there a precedent for this?
To shift Kill-Team boxes with a marked up price obviously. Whether you flog the enemy army's models on Ebay after you buy it isn't GW's problem, you've already spent the £120 or so on the box rather than the £35 you would for standalone Flayed Ones.
In the past they've put things like the Kellermorph and... the fat Mechanicus character in Kill-Team boxes for a while before releasing 'em standalone.
Kellermorph and Manipulus were the only two 'main army' units that were bundled into Kill Team sets. And those, it's worth mentioning, were full on single-faction Kill Team sets rather than full-on big boxes.
Kellermorph came with a set of Acolytes and the Manipulus came with a set of Sicarian.
You didn't have to flog anything unless you didn't want Acolytes or Sicarians.
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
It's possible they could not advertise it until an announcement is made by the property owners themselves.
Reality of the situation is we never really tend to get any heads-up for what is coming for LOTR. Whether they are playing it close to the vest because of licensing stuff or just they don't know what they want to release? I do not think we have seen a single Rumor Engine for a LOTR piece but I might be wrong!
Given the current rumour is Treebeard, I don't think they could tease that without giving it away entirely. There's still more to show for all of the teasers that were made (at least, one would assume), so even the obvious ones haven't spoiled anything.
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
It's possible they could not advertise it until an announcement is made by the property owners themselves.
Reality of the situation is we never really tend to get any heads-up for what is coming for LOTR. Whether they are playing it close to the vest because of licensing stuff or just they don't know what they want to release? I do not think we have seen a single Rumor Engine for a LOTR piece but I might be wrong!
Rumour Engines no, which I can see being a rights/approval issue - those things are often previewed many months in advance after all.
This is about the day-in-advance sneak peek for the online preview though, and Middle-earth has featured for those previously (Éomer was shown off as a silhouette before at least).
At least they were confirmed as being part of the actual preview stream, so that's something. The amount of times they completely forget to mention Middle-earth is quite staggering.
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
Maybe they are in a holding/slow growth pattern until the Amazon show comes out?
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
Maybe they are in a holding/slow growth pattern until the Amazon show comes out?
Seeing gw's licence doesn't cover that not much it affects except as side advertisement
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
Maybe they are in a holding/slow growth pattern until the Amazon show comes out?
I doubt they will extent the Middle Earth Licence with that Amazon Show.
There are many Rumors about making the Round, not onley Treebeard.
Currently most likely. The absence of his miniature is quite notable, given that he's 50% of the model range for his faction. The Last Alliance rumours have been floating around for longer but that doesn't mean they'll be fulfilled faster, and while a new starter set in 2021 would fit with GW's new trend of updating starters in a three year cycle, it'd be the second half of the year, which seems a bit far out to be announced now.
Unfortunately I think the SBG crowd got a little more hyped then was warranted. You'd think GW would advertise for a property that's way more popular than even their own original brands if it was something newsworthy.
Maybe they are in a holding/slow growth pattern until the Amazon show comes out?
Seeing gw's licence doesn't cover that not much it affects except as side advertisement
It would indeed be a separate license. But, it’s still possible GW went for that as well. It’d all be kept secret.
And to be honest, it’s likely in their interest to go for it, if for no other reason than to block competitors.
Yeah, with the recent history of profits, and memory of.just how profitable the the trilogy was I can't see them not.being interested in it at least.
The show is contractually obligated to make 5 seasons, and can make more if its successful enough, which could help postpone the bubble popping.
I sure bet CMON wished they had thier own game out back at the height of GoT popularity nearer the beginning of.the series rather than at the end and paired.with the mess the show ended on, as a comparison.
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highlord tamburlaine wrote: If we walk out of this weekend with modernized Sigvald and Be'lakor kits, I'll be a happy camper.
Sigvald is the closest GW model I'll ever get akin to someone from Dynasty Warriors, and for that I'll always love him.
Be'lakor had to have been in those latest teasers. At least I hope so. I just want a bigger more pumped up version of him.
Belabor is one.of the few models from the metal era that punches far above his weight on awesomeness. I wish they could just take.hid existing model and make it a plastic kit.
I kinda hope.he doesn't.get a new model, as if the rumor engine pics are of him it looks like hes gonna have really bad looking wings.
I dunno. I could see it being "oooh, you guys are gonna LOVE this army. But here's only one model teased"
but I feel like we'll see a lot of the new Hedonites.
JWBS wrote: Why do they always have a 15 minute buffer of random worthless chat?
So people have chance to get into the stream before the reveals start.
It's like asking why do the doors open at a music consert an hour beforehand.
The Twitch doors aren't locked. You can turn up at literally any time you want and get in.
Yes and many will log in at the start time not 15mins before. So that gives people 15mins to log in; fiddle with their twitch account subscribe again with prime etc..); to find their box of cookies to eat whilst watching etc... It's just a time buffer to get things going. IT also gives GW 15mins streaming to make sure the stream itself is working and setup right. It basically helps things run smooth for everyone.
Little surprised it was the Drukhari with the recent Ynnari focus, but its good to have one of the two main Eldar factions out the door sooner than later.
The cover does look silly though and not a patch on previous covers.
Overread wrote: The new champions for Van Saar look so wonderfully 80s style space scifi designs!
Not surprising. It's a very 80s concept, and hover boards were sadly dropped despite being introduced in rogue trader. There was an amusing sketch of a Squat with a 'board in the equipment section.
Thrilled by Typhus' faction getting focus in this campaign supplement. Less than impressed than DG having paid supplemental content announced when their book isn't even released yet.
From what I understand, the books are for Crusade ?
From War Community :
The Plague Purge Mission Pack allows everyone to join the fun in the Charadon war zone with a host of specific Crusade rules. Send your army campaigning through a land of rust and decay, and pick up some new relics and abilities along the way. In the same way as Beyond the Veil, this pack gives you a whole new region of space to set your campaigns in.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I doubt the two campaign books for 40k have any Death Guard rules that won't already be in the Death Guard Codex.
JWBS wrote: You can be there when it starts even w/o a 15 minute buffer though, herpderp.
Not everyone can. How is this concept of an intro/catch-up time alluding you? Everyone else gets it.
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War Zone Charadon Act 1: The Book of Rust
There’s more than just the background of an epic war zone in here, the book also includes new rules for:
Death Guard
Adeptus Mechanicus
Imperial and Chaos Knights
Drukhari
H.B.M.C. wrote: I doubt the two campaign books for 40k have any Death Guard rules that won't already be in the Death Guard Codex.
JWBS wrote: You can be there when it starts even w/o a 15 minute buffer though, herpderp.
Not everyone can. How is this concept of an intro/catch-up time alluding you? Everyone else gets it.
Not everyone can get there at [specific time], but everyone can get there at [specific time after 15 minutes of aimless waffle], is essentially what you're saying then? This would be an uncommonly stupid thing to think, but ok.
tneva82 wrote: Lovely. Whining already starts. Please keep on going. Dakkadakka whining is best part of previews
He's not wrong though. They did a 40k preview and showed 4 books, one of which appears (on the face of it, at least) to be Day 1 DLC for the upcoming Death Guard Codex. And they didn't show a single model.
JWBS wrote: Not everyone can get there at [specific time], but everyone can get there at [specific time after 15 minutes of aimless waffle], is essentially what you're saying then? This would be an uncommonly stupid thing to think, but ok.
So in your area movies start on the dot of the time, and leave no time for anyone to get seated, or play ads/trailers?
I really don't know why I'm arguing with you about this because, as I said, everyone else gets it. You're the only one who thinks its weird.
tneva82 wrote: Lovely. Whining already starts. Please keep on going. Dakkadakka whining is best part of previews
He's not wrong though. They did a 40k preview and showed 4 books, one of which appears (on the face of it, at least) to be Day 1 DLC for the upcoming Death Guard Codex. And they didn't show a single model.
I for one am relieved at the preview not being 40k-centric; it's a rare thing!
tneva82 wrote: Lovely. Whining already starts. Please keep on going. Dakkadakka whining is best part of previews
He's not wrong though. They did a 40k preview and showed 4 books, one of which appears (on the face of it, at least) to be Day 1 DLC for the upcoming Death Guard Codex. And they didn't show a single model.
I'm curious to what that 40k looking preview was? The Dark Mech/Warpsmith/ Death Guard thing. Also that Drukhari one? But it is true, no new models for 40k is probably pretty disappointing for a lot of people. Could wrap things up I guess.
It's not even that they preview only 4 books, it's the fact that a day 1 DLC for two codices (Death Guard, Dark Eldar) is outrageous, imho.
The Crusade book is fine, it's the campaign one that is the issue if it contains rules for generalist matched play (and not only campaign narrative games).
Aenar wrote: It's not even that they preview only 4 books, it's the fact that a day 1 DLC for two codices (Death Guard, Dark Eldar) is outrageous, imho.
The Crusade book is fine, it's the campaign one that is the issue if it contains rules for generalist matched play (and not only campaign narrative games).
DId they say that these were main-line 40k rules, rather than narrative stuff like the Beyond the Veil?
Carlovonsexron wrote: I for one am relieved at the preview not being 40k-centric; it's a rare thing!
Who said anything about being 40k-centric?
The problem isn't a 40k reveal, it's what they reveal. 4 books. Wow.
No one said it! (Well, except me, I guess! )
But from my PoV 40k traditionally gets the lion's share of attention, even over the last few years which have been getting 'better' about giving a presence to the fantasy side of things. For me it's nice for the other games - both other facets of the 40k universe aside from the main game, and of course fantasy (which is really where my attention lay now-a-days. Though a new guard army would get my attention!)
Sabotage! wrote: YESSSS! Slaves to Darkness for Underworlds! Finally!
Godsworn Hunt was Slaves to Darkness...
Hahahaha, in name only. They are essentially just ported out of a Conan movie. These are real, honest, Chaos Warriors.
Them being from a Conan movie is the best part! The new guys look great, but I'd take a new version or expansion to them as a new marauder kit in an instant.
The bastard son of a chaos guy who...forcibly mated with his sister. He's basically Slaanesh's favorite champion from the old world. Very vain. He floats so that the ground won't sully his armor. He burnt a city once because he didn't like the wine. But in his stand alone novel, he's actually a stand up gent. Also, his sword is made from a shard of Slaanesh's own. And all his warriors have mirror shields so he can look at himself
The bastard son of a chaos guy who...forcibly mated with his sister. He's basically Slaanesh's favorite champion from the old world. Very vain. He floats so that the ground won't sully his armor. He burnt a city once because he didn't like the wine. But in his stand alone novel, he's actually a stand up gent. Also, his sword is made from a shard of Slaanesh's own. And all his warriors have mirror shields so he can look at himself
I never liked Sigvald but his new miniature is just such a ... perfect. Is a really magnificent miniature. Everything is perfect. The pose, the face, the armor, even the horns.
Look closely at his base. He's still "floating" a few inches off the ground. Love it.
The rest of the hedonites? Eh. Painbringers? Love em. The other ones? I get it. The whole "Twisted Alliance" model led to a rise of "daemon/mortal" pairing for Slaanesh (which to be fair, that calvary unit already was doing). But the heads need to be swapped out.
So I'm gonna guess Slaanesh and Nurgle for 
