10 armies that deserve a codex before Blood Angels

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**dnecro**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

What fluff?

THe Eldar are Elfs in Space. The Dark Elfs are Elfs who are Dark.

The Dark Eldar are the Elfs who are Dark and also in Space. They're a xerox of a xerox, a knock-off of a knock-off.

THeir 'theme' is they are PURE EVIL! But we already have an abundance of PURE EVIL! armies, Chaos Marines and Daemons being the closest. So the DE are PURE EVIL who are into torture and slavery but in a PG-13 sort of way.

But Orks and CSMs already have that niche filled.

So what are they? They're Eldar but with the weapons renamed. Dark Lances instead of Bright Lances and so on. Like I said a copy of a copy with no real room for growth. Let them wither and die with their big hats and razor-encrusted armor. Let something better take their place.

Excuse me good sir but your ignorants is showing. Dark Eldar not only deserve a new codex but they NEED A NEW CODEX. By the way what do you have against de any way?

**JohnHwangDD**

Um, this is an anti-BA thread, not a pro-DE thread.

**ph34r**

Lord-Loss wrote:We only need these codexs:

1. Eldar
2. Dark Eldar
3. Space Wolves (The only unique SM army)
4. Space marines (With BA, DA and BT)
5. Chaos Legions, renegades, LaTD and Demons
6. Necrons
7. Tau
8. Nids
9. IG
10. Inqusitian

So let me get this straight... the space wolves are more different than space marines, than legions are from "generic" chaos?
Seriously?

...Seriously?

**JohnHwangDD**

Obviously, he's a SW player.

**ChristmasMarine**

obviously....I don't like the number of marine codexes, but they do add some nice variety. If their going to push SM, they should at least make it interesting. (Although I am in favor of taking all those codexes and making it into a single volume...)

**McNutty**

WH and DH should be combined into a single codex.

I'm on board with PDF Army Lists for Kroot, LatD, Ad Mech, Genestealer Cult, etc. I don't think there's enough dollars in it for full 100-page codexes. These lists don't need the support of models like the others, but open up tons of possibilities for conversions and modelling.

**Dr Weirdboy**

InquisitorBob wrote:
Manchu wrote:The models need retooling. Who'd play Space Marines if they still looked like this:

Ugh.

Woaaaaaa whaT's the top left guy holding there?
It.. doesn't look so much as a weapon.. And what it could be scares me. >.>

It's an Imperial Butter Knife!

**Boss 'eadbreaka**

You know, Codex: Renegades would be fun, Forge World already have a great line of them.
Although most players that I'm aware of just use the IG rules, I think a codex involving things like possesed psykers and Chaos Spehss Marines as HQ choices might be cool.

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

More codex=more money for GW=More codex

**ChristmasMarine**

you forgot to add = longer codex update time = greater army inbalance = armies getting shelved

codices don't make GW money, models do.

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:More codex=more money for GW=More codex=longer codex update time=greater army inbalance=armies getting shelved=less players and/or more models sales= more and less money for GW

Fixed, thanks for the tip CM

**Tim the Biovore**

Necrons, Eldar, Beasts of Chaos, Tau, Ogre Kingdoms, Tomb Kings, Dwarfs, Wood Elves, High Elves and *shudders* Dark Eldar.

**Boss 'eadbreaka**

Why do Eldar need a new dex?

**sarxsvt**

I fail to see any reason for your hate of DE, other than that you want 3 Inquisition codices, when its already the least played set of forces (GKs are barely even used any more, and whos ever seen a daemonhost on a table?).

I would definitely start a Sisters Army if they had a little updating. No questions asked.

That being said, if they do create Blood Angels, for the love of all that is holy (or unholy!) let it be "Angels of Death" and update the Dark Angels also.(Yes, I know they don't "need" an update if you define it by time. That codex is an abomination however as far as quality goes) Or at least put them out of their misery and just make them green codex marines so I don't feel so awful about it.
I'm ashamed to just field my Dark Angels as Space Marines so they normally gather dust.

**Arschbombe**

sarxsvt wrote:
I would definitely start a Sisters Army if they had a little updating. No questions asked.

I'd start them if they got some plastic.

**Tim the Biovore**

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:Why do Eldar need a new dex?

Why would Regenades?

**Shaman**

In 20 years 40k will boil down to this

Codex Hurr

Codex Not Hurr

Codex Blood Angles (cheesy rules assure the geometric supremacy)

Codex Meatshield wiv Tanks

Codex lol youre a Xenos.

**George Spiggott**

Shaman wrote:Codex Blood Angles (cheesy rules assure the geometric supremacy)

I think this is going to become Grey Knights niche. When they become 'Codex Grey Knights sans Inquisition' They'll be Marines++, balder, pointier and more screamy (sic) than standard marines.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:Why do Eldar need a new dex?

For the same reason God needs a starship.

**wuestenfux**

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:Why do Eldar need a new dex?

Eldar is a well selling army.
But the game mechanics of the 5th ed brought some flaws or breaks into the flow Eldar is played.
Problems are random game length, weak troops for holding objectives, and skimmer nerf.
I'm sure GW will consider this in the new codex.
At least, during play testing they will encounter these problems.

**Asherian Command**

Yep. Like their troops are getting owned by a scout squad is always funny to see. : D. Also a codex i think should come out is Daemon Hunters, Dark Eldar, Black Templars, Witch Hunters, all these haven't been rerealeased since the eye of terror campaign.

**RxGhost**

Want to hold an objective? Get 20 guardians and embolden and get in some cover, they ain't goin' anywhere.

Black Templars seem to work fine for me, I'd be happy if they don't change that book.

Still, it'd be nice if they put out a BA dex so I can assemble my BA minis that have been sitting in the box for so long.

**jsullivanlaw**

Dire Avengers in a falcon with a holofield is probably the hardest troop squad to kill in the game.

**RxGhost**

Probably, but for point cost and usefulness, I think I'd go with the guardians.

**Eidolon**

RxGhost wrote:Probably, but for point cost and usefulness, I think I'd go with the guardians.

This, they might be a bitch to get rid of, but they arent contributing much offensively to the battle. Also, 30 man boyz mobs, plague marines etc are very difficult to exterminate.

**RobDA**

Ultimately Wolves & Vampires are all the craze in the market at present...

We'll maybe get some sort of DA, BT or Assassinorum codex in the next few years due to the interest in things like The Knights Templar etc (thanx to people like Dan Brown)

Not suggesting for one minute that the market for GW is like the market for The Twighlight saga.......mmmmm

**Beastmaster**

I dont see why BA's shouldn't be next. GW is expanding. People are gonna get tired eventually of all the same races. I, for one, think that BA's would be a good option for the next frontier.

**RustyKnight**

Blood Angels are Space Marines. They aren't some exciting new race that will inject new life into the fluff.

**despoiler52**

OK, I know everyone hates them, but I think if they got a shiny new codex and a little publicity dark eldar could make a commback. Also they need cooler looking models.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Beastmaster wrote:I dont see why BA's shouldn't be next. GW is expanding. People are gonna get tired eventually of all the same races. I, for one, think that BA's would be a good option for the next frontier.

This is a joke right?

Right?

We have 4 (FOUR!) marine codexes in print, plus Spikey Marines.

Now I'm always happy to see more variation among the marines but not at the expense of a precious Codex slot that could go to the Sensei, the Adeptus Arbites or Space Pirates.

GW should go back to doing something like Index Astres where they give each chapter its due fluff and then a page of rule changes to customize the force.