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yeah,

Oh new photos in the what's new post!


The FLock don't look so bad from this angle.




The Khymerae look hot!



less impressed with this dudes new photos...



Panic...

$288 for ONE unit.

Am I missing something? Are these all really just one model a pop? Please tell me I misread.

These models are amazing, but I don't think I can justify the costs for Beastmaster units, which makes me sad. I'm also a little disappointed by the lack of a Venom model in this release.

To be positive, here are the good points about the pre-orders:

1. If someone wanted a metal figure to use as a base for Lady Malys or one of the other characters, they can use the metal Succubus for that.
2. No more guessing about the base sizes for the beast models.
3. The Khymera look better than the old warp beasts.

I think I'll convert Hellions to be my Beastmasters and use Dire Wolves with 'Gaunt claw arms on the back. Hell of a lot cheaper and will still look nice on the table.

This batch's pricepoint actually has me concerned that they'll do the same thing with the Scourges when they get released. :(

Kanluwen wrote:And they could be throwing gold bullion into a crowd and people would complain.

The truth. I am quoting it. You know, Kan, it would sound like this:

HBMC hypothetically wrote:Those fethers hit me in the neck with fething gold! This is supposed to be marketing?!

Some of these models are amazing. Mork help me, I think my ears are getting pointy and I have the sudden urge to dress in black leather. This is good for no one, least of all my wallet. Yes, the prices are high. To me, it's worth it. I would not pay 20% less for something 70% uglier. To be honest, I would not pay 70% less for something 20% uglier.

Nice looking models, but I am very glad that I am not a Dark Eldar player. I can't afford more pretties at the moment...

Ohhhh myyy goddd *drools*

Succubi is beautiful.... Almost as good as lelith (who is a special character anyway, which deserves to be more detailed). Beastmaster looks pretty good, as do the rest of the beasties. A tad too expensive, but at least they're letting us buying them as singles, rather than giving us a crappy box of all of them.

I think I'll buy the beastmaster, and just convert the beasts from WHFB stuff. Problem solved.

EDIT. Now that I've seen the fiend next to other guys, I'll probably buy one of those too. It's MASSIVE. Definitelty worth the money.

I can't believe some of you guys are not enamored with the Clawed Fiend! That is six kinds of awesome in my book. Feels like there should be some way to use it for skaven, but it's too expensive to be a rat ogre... it would have to work as something. Perhaps a Vermin Lord

Those fethers hit me in the neck with fething gold! This is supposed to be marketing?!

Like I already said, it is a safety issue and the ambulance chasers and law suits and the GW lawyers would be to busy to issue C&D's left right and centre and...
Wait! sadly....
It would never happen. Really, GW throw gold at people? phfff
I know it is a game of fantasy but don't get carried away with such crazy notions.
Also...
We all know that GW don't do marketing
you guys reaslly need to get the facts right!

Seriously there is a lot of, "these are nice but too expensive" comments so far.

If you got hit in the neck with bullion, and kept it could you still sue?
hmmm


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ps there ARE four birds after all
makes a big difference. It'll break off too easily and be impossible to pin back on you mark my words!

RiTides wrote:I can't believe some of you guys are not enamored with the Clawed Fiend! That is six kinds of awesome in my book. Feels like there should be some way to use it for skaven, but it's too expensive to be a rat ogre... it would have to work as something. Perhaps a Vermin Lord

I am too! I love how big it is. Any smaller, and I wouldn't like it

I was thinking of using it as a daemon prince of slaanesh

You could use it as a paper weight

RiTides wrote:I can't believe some of you guys are not enamored with the Clawed Fiend! That is six kinds of awesome in my book. Feels like there should be some way to use it for skaven, but it's too expensive to be a rat ogre... it would have to work as something. Perhaps a Vermin Lord

My problem with it is they put it out in metal. That gives you ONE pose. Heck they put out plastic Bloodletters and Deamon princes. Why not a set of at least three of the Clawed Fiends? I just don't get why in the heck they would revert to metal.

Hmmm... looks like I've already got the perfects reps for the beasties...



I've already been thinking about using Dirz alchemists for Grotesques and the otherwhatsits... the big grotesques? Can't remember the name.

In any case, I love these models. Creatures are quite often GW's biggest weakness, but I love these all, even the birds. Although that could be because I need ravens for my Rune Priest and I'm too lazy to sculpt them.

Forgive my ignorance but what is that mini in your avatar, Mastif? Dead sexy.

Will buy a few flocks of Razorwings for use as crows for my Dark Elf army "Murder of Crows". Will look good if painted like blackbluish ravens - and having their wingtips sharpened and painted metal.

Khymeras are so disturbingly weird that I'll buy a few even though I cannot imagine how I will field them.

The Succubus is really nice, definitely got to get me one of those too. Will become a Dark Elf character.

The Beast Master (unispired Hellion) and the Clawed Fiend (Yeti/ape with skull head) are the weakest of the lot. Will pass on them.

As for METAL miniatures: I LOVE 'EM.
More Old School, no "flat detail" on the sides, not prone to tipping like plastic ones - sad if they are only in a few poses but then they make excellent conversion projects (compared to plastics which doesn't provide a similar challange).
To prove my point, here are my converted Mandrakes:

[Mod Edit - PLEASE do not encourage that type of behavior/activity. Thanks!]

I think the clawed fiend and khymerae models are definitely the best of this release. Its a shame the rest are just so disapointing. The Razorwings are small enough to be considered bits, yet costs...too much and the Beastmaster not bad, but not great... its 2011 why is GW still putting metal models on top of flight stands?

Samus_aran115 wrote:
... I love how big it is. Any smaller, and I wouldn't like it

I was thinking of using it as a daemon prince of slaanesh

mrrr...That's what she said?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You could use it as a paper weight

...and again... that's what she said.

Not a fan of the Succubus model; to be honest I just think the model looks pretty masculine, but in fairness perhaps it's the paintjob (Lelith model looked horrible on the GW site, but now I've seen it in person it's really nice). If you can switch the head for another (say a regular Wych head), it might look much nicer.

As for the Beastmaster and his beasts: The Beastmaster himself is pretty disappointing but not terrible by any means, surely they could have made him more distinct? The flock are just what I expected, so I can't comment too much on those, and the Clawed Fiend's pose looks a little static. The Khymerae are probably the best looking model of this bunch, but at this price point making a Beastmaster unit is pretty expensive. (£13+ for the Fiend, £8+ for each smaller beast and a further £8+ for the Beastmaster?)

Thankfully, I didn't plan on using Beastmasters; I eagerly await Razorwing Jetfighters and Scourges though

Neith wrote:Not a fan of the Succubus model; to be honest I just think the model looks pretty masculine, but in fairness perhaps it's the paintjob (Lelith model looked horrible on the GW site, but now I've seen it in person it's really nice). If you can switch the head for another (say a regular Wych head), it might look much nicer.

It all boils down to the androgeny of Eldar. Eldar males are effeminant and females slightly masculine... I really don't think there is a problem with the model, its just distinguishing gender amongst a relativley androgenous race is a matter of subtlety, that can be lost on the artist and player alike.

Killmaimburnkillmaimburn wrote:And now I can't stop laughing at the Clawed fiend's triple nipples, seriously why?

When your young have teeth like that, it pays to have spares?


Not hugely impressed with the Beastmaster, but everything else is brilliant. Love the Khymera, and the Succubus would make an awesome Jain Zar stand-in with a very little work...

I don't like them that much. only the Kyhmara looks Dark Eldary and the Succubus' head looks like one of the males from the Kabalite sprue. I think I'm going to convert Lelith instead.

My impression is that things that are likely to sell in smaller quantities have to be made out of metal due to economies of scale... i.e. not enough sales to recoup the cost of the plastic mold.

If these were a set of 3 plastic clawed fiends, instead, I would certainly make some excuse to include them in my fantasy army... but I don't know if enough people would be looking to use them for the purpose they are for to justify the expense of having them done as a plastic kit.

With these prices, is this the most expensive (real-world money) unit to field?

The Succubus looks horrible. The rest doesn't look to great either, but the Succubus... good god.

The beastmaster actually fits the description of a shaman like figure with a mask that exudes pheromones to help him control his herd of deadly creatures.

I must say I like the subtle idea of the flock of birds. Looks nonthreatening and I think that quality suits the idea behind them.

The kymerae look like the raw product of humanities fears, it can run faster than you, it has teeth that can shred flesh and it hasn't got any skin. Not to mention the eyes...

The clawed fiend was a sad disappointment. It simply does not look mean enough to be a "clawed fiend".

I'm definitely going to pick up a unit of razorwings, they'll fit in perfect with the egypt/desert theme of my army.

The only issue I can find with the models is the price, and I realize that it sounds like a broken record but it's always a factor.

RiTides wrote:I can't believe some of you guys are not enamored with the Clawed Fiend! That is six kinds of awesome in my book. Feels like there should be some way to use it for skaven, but it's too expensive to be a rat ogre... it would have to work as something. Perhaps a Vermin Lord

That clawed fiend looks like a giant mutated gorilla-thing with a bone-plated pihrana for a head.
I LOVE IT.
Seriously, if it wasn't so darned expensive, I'd buy it *just to have it*. Same for the dogs.

Wish they'd done plastic.
I don't understand it. These things are supposed to be fielded in DROVES. Why wouldn't they be in plastic?
I can maybe understand the Clawed Fiend being metal, since you won't have more than 5 per unit. Price is still god-awful, though.


@Mastiff:
Who makes those dogs?


@Kendoka
To be fair, those don't look like conversions. They look like arm swaps. Not quite the same thing.
If I'm missing something, please correct me.

Eric

Those are Tigers of Dirz, from Rackham's Confrontation line when they were still metal. Pain in the ass to get, nowadays.

Oh.
Yeah.
For the cost, then, we might as well be using actual Khymerae models. : )
Thanks for sharing.


Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:Who makes those dogs?

Rackham used to, it seems.


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Dang. I wuz ninjer'd again.