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Succubus would made a good Valkia for WoC!

Thank God I did a last second search before posting my own thread about this.

They look great, I particulary like the Clawed Fiend. But the Razorwings don't look as ferocious as I think they should, however, that is probably just me being negative.

The sculpts look awesome but, I have to say, anyone else going to bother making a large beast master unit with these considering it'll cost something like £100.

I'll probably pick up the Succubus though...

The second Khymera looks almost identical to the Forge World Chaos Spawn.

*posting for the work blocked*

Yeah, they all look awesome, but I'm not even going to think about making beastmaster units until they come out in plastic. Too expensive.

Still waiting on haemonculi units and the venom. I thought the rumor was they would all come out with the succubus and beastmaster stuff, but I guess not.

Incredibly expensive!

£8 for a single 12pts model...

Unexpected! Or at least I wasn't expecting to see them this morning.

The Succubus looks great. I like the Lilith model fine, but I honestly like this one even more! The Clawed Fiend is great! Big and scary. I love it! The Kymera are just gross. Eww. Well done, but totally squiky. I'm still getting two and hoping that my dark blue color scheme will tone down it's creepiness. The Beast Master is fine, but I can't think of a reason to buy one when I'm already going to be getting an extra Hellion box for the 4 beast masters I'll need. The Razorwing flocks are just really boring though. Not badly sculpted just... that's it? They couldn't think of anything more exciting than generic, soaring birds?


So what else are people using for Razorwings?

More Dark Eldar, yay!! No Venom, boo......

Seriously, nice surprise. Hopefully that means that more of the army will surprise it's way in over the next couple months.

Surprise Scourges. Surprise Venom.

EDIT: I have to say though, why would you buy their beastmaster when you could just convert one from the Hellions?

Thoughts:

Beastmaster: "What an unfortunate hat you've chosen to wear, you silly, silly man."

Succubus: Decent enough. But she's looking less "battle-hardened warrior woman" and more "insecure 18 year old cosplayer who put on every punk accessory she owned to try and impress the DJ on club night. "No really! I'm tough! Can't you tell by my enormous spear?" Next time leave some of the accessories in a foot locker back in the webway.

Clawed Fiend: Really well-sculpted details, but I can't help but think it's a very un-dynamic ripoff of a certain earthborn dire troll.

Khymera 1 & 2: Holy skinless dogs, Batman! Excellent models. I like the tentacles and weird bony not-quite-limbs. This may also be the world record winner for greatest improvement of a model between codex iterations. But, given how they started, there really was no where to go but up.

Razorwing Flock: So um, birds. Yeah. ....

You know a sculpt has stumbled a bit when the promotion from the web team starts with words to the effect of: They may not look like much, but they're really dangerous! Just look at their stats! (Don't look at the miniatures).


Overall a release that corrects some atrocious sins of past models and at least manages to not offer new atrocious sins. But really... meh. Everything apart from the Khymerae are really making it look like the design team started running out of steam after the 1st wave. Let's hope they bring things back whenever they get around to releasing the wracks/grotesques.

I don't about losing steam... the Succubus looks ace, and will probably be as customizable as the Archon. that's a huge plus! The Beast Master would be cooler if he had the same level of customization, but he's not bad. The Razorwings are a miss though. But the Clawed Fiend? Totally awesome, and totally unlike anything else in the line! I love it!

Is it just me, or is the Beastmaster wearing a baby Clawed Fiend skull for a helmet? A helmet with no appropriately placed eye-holes, at that.

Nearly £10 a model?

GW can do one...

jake wrote:The Beast Master would be cooler if he had the same level of customization, but he's not bad.

The Beast Master would be great, if his helmet didn't make me picture him constantly bumping into walls he can't see because he wanted to be spooky and not drill some freaking eye-holes.

EDITED TO ADD: I do love making fun of the silly head, but really any Beast Master model only has to be impressive enough to not look terrible. No one ever cares about the guy with the whip, only the big, bad beasties who stand in front of them. As long as they look cool, the Beast Master only has to not trip over his own feet. So as long as he's not with a flock of razorwings, he'll be fine.

But the Clawed Fiend? Totally awesome, and totally unlike anything else in the line! I love it!

And totally lacking any sense of motion!

I think it's a case of excellent design marred by disappointing execution.

JOHIRA wrote:The Beast Master would be great, if his helmet didn't make me picture him constantly bumping into walls he can't see because he wanted to be spooky and not drill some freaking eye-holes.

That's not a helmet. That's his FACE. Or is it? It's certainly painted like it could be, and really, since the Beastmaster is clearly based on the bit of fluff that Kabalites are big on body modification, such as implanting spider eyes into their heads, it definitely should be.

JOHIRA wrote:

But the Clawed Fiend? Totally awesome, and totally unlike anything else in the line! I love it!

And totally lacking any sense of motion!

I think it's a case of excellent design marred by disappointing execution.

Lacking any sense of motion? look at it again. It's lunging forward. I think that at first glance the photo may make it look more static than it actually is.

I see a good chooser of the slain!

The others, I say meh

Beastmaster- Dislocated shoulder, hands of diferent sizes, broken wrist dislocated neck and goofy head. Pose loks like hes having a dump.

Succubus- crapachan bicep muscle, sigh... nice model overall.

Clawed fiend- Messy head so messy it spoils the model... pose is ok escept the stupid tipitytoe on the rock Love the torso muscles.

Kymeras... errr many years ago rackham did Dirz tigers a concept very similar to this yet the sculpting was million light years away from this goofy headed things

crows- very usefull and decently done.

For the prices "Nearly £10 a model?" these are NOT in that league of quality sculpting.

23 Ponds for a clawed one, 15.6? for a Master... in Aus (37 & 23)
...
At this rate I don't even want to trust in the painting... I'm sure it's been 'buffed' in my cynical mind.
And why would DE the stabbiest of the stabby, have something that appears less threatening than a crow & rounder than a seagull....

I'll echo the majority here. Pretty cool models, but too expensive for "grunts".

JOHIRA wrote:Succubus: Decent enough. But she's looking less "battle-hardened warrior woman" and more "insecure 18 year old cosplayer who put on every punk accessory she owned to try and impress the DJ on club night. "No really! I'm tough! Can't you tell by my enormous spear?" Next time leave some of the accessories in a foot locker back in the webway.

HAHAHA funniest thing i've heard on dakka.

Actually apart from the beastmaster (better to convert one out of a Hellion IMO) and the razorwing flocks which are just birds the rest are good for the task. But GW honestly, your telling me the most dangerous flying beast unit in the 40k universe is a flock of birds?

Someone was watching too much Hitchcock.

Maybe they're Hitchcock fans


Damn, NINJA'D !!!

Sidstyler wrote:Yeah, they all look awesome, but I'm not even going to think about making beastmaster units until they come out in plastic. Too expensive.

Don't hold your breath. I would not expect plastic beastmasters in any less than 10 years. Hell, maybe never.

I like the clawed fiend and khymerae models but the beastmaster is definately going to be a conversion job.

Does anyone know of some good 28mm scale birds that could be used instead? Hell, I might scuplt some of my own if it comes to that, I'm sure I could make them look a bit meaner...

Ill definitely pick up the sucubbus eventually and maybe the Beastmaster, but the rest is too expensive so proxies will have to do.

Too damned expensive to even consider beastmaster units! But that Succubus may be a fine addition to my army as I might prefer her to Lelith, although I would have to file down those Arnie Biceps. I know DE are all about body perfection but Conan in drag is a bit extreme!

I agree with what seems to be the general consensus that the Razorwing Flock looks just like... a buncha birds...
But that's great, because it means I can buy a whole bunch and add them to my Raven Guard Army!

I was expecting the razorwings to be more bat-like than just angry birds, the sculpts are good, just a little unimaginative imo. The beastmaster is dissapointing though.

Everything else I'm very impressed with though.

And now I can't stop laughing at the Clawed fiend's triple nipples, seriously why?