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homsikpanda wrote:
ick =/
i prefer 2 legged with a jet pack
and again, scratch building isn't my forte

Me either but it kind of opens up the imagination to accept that Tau might have something bigger than an XV88

agnosto wrote:

homsikpanda wrote:
ick =/
i prefer 2 legged with a jet pack
and again, scratch building isn't my forte

Me either but it kind of opens up the imagination to accept that Tau might have something bigger than an XV88

way to kill the thread xD

The Tau do have something bigger than an XV-88, the Xv-9

Rented Tritium wrote:If it really bothers you, you can give it 4 legs and a sturdier looking frame.

Did. . . did you just suggest a Tau AT-AT walker?

Yes!

Just a thought, during the heresy titans have betrayed the Imperium for Chaos, it even happens these days.
Isn't it possible for a titan to be converted/convinced/mind-controllled (take applicable) to believe or actually be conviced of the greater good.
If the spirit is in fact based on the beliefs of the pilot it's even moreso true as the pilot could be convinced.

I'll get round to make a Tau Titan myself at some point - it'll be a prototype / unique solution to X threat.

Already have ideas, probably make it out of a Skyray box or two, get a few of extra hammerhead weapon sprues, a pirahna kit for the central 'core' and a bunch of card / sprue.

Create a sort of Mad Cat II type assault mech, prolly Pirahna or hammerhead chasis cut down for the body, bipedal with 2 Railguns (HH ones, so ordnance shot too), or Ion Cannons, and a Missile Pod Bank ( 4-8 Missile pods for 8-16 shots of LRM goodness ) with a pair of burst cannons or flamers.

Rented Tritium wrote:
Now you're tying the ability to field a unit to several layers deep political machinations. Just say the mechanicus doesn't know yet. Problem solved. If it was scavenged from parts of a titan listed as destroyed, they'd never have any idea until they faced it in battle later. Just say every time you fight with it is the first time it got used. The mechanicus' revenge is something happening at a later date which 40k never actually reaches.

Fair enough, although that was only one part of my post. But whatever, yes it is possible, but it won't be similar to a Warhound Titan. That doesn't really work.

homsikpanda wrote:well they have the manta, it's a large, vulnerable transport ship that has to land, and i mean... it can take on titans no problem >.>;

Okay. That's not a Titan though. More akin to a Thunderhawk, say (wihch also have Titan-scale weaponry).

plus why can't the tau upscale an xv80 crisis battle suit to the size of a titan? it'd be all the same technology just again, upsized... instead of having a broadside sized rail gun, it has a manta sized rail gun, instead of having a missile pod, it has a missile pod that shoots seeker missile sized missiles, etc etc etc

Because that's not how physics works. You can't just make something several times the size and expect it to work the same way. It's why you can't just build a supertank that's impervious to all enemy fire. It doesn't work that way. The materials have limits. The Tau scientists will also have limits.

(it has a titan sized jetpack )

That strikes me as a little absurd. Might as well have Eldar or Imperial Titans capable of teleporting (after all, the Orks can do it, so why can't they?) I think Dreadknights can teleport, but they're far smaller and use some of the greatest technology known to Man.

generally since titans only play in apoc.... and apoc allows you to field whatever you want from any models in your collection, regardless of army, i see no problem with a warhound fighting beside a tau army. you could even justify it as it belonged to an annexed world, and its imperial princeps have agreed to use it in a battle to support the tau. whatever.

for making a "tau" titan.... i would almost suggest the eldar revenant would be a closer fit to the tau style of warfare. its quick, has decent firepower, agile, and pretty much a nice slender model. no clue how you would modify it to tau specs, (making it look like a big crisis suit) but i would look in that general area for a custom tau titan.

my friend is working on one, he is kitbashing a ton of smaller tau vehicles and plasticard to make one. it will be warhound class, and act simaler to the revenant, in that it has 2 weapons on its arms (primary weapons) and a few smaller shoulder weapons.

Okay. That's not a Titan though. More akin to a Thunderhawk, say (wihch also have Titan-scale weaponry).

The manta would probably be better compared to the warhound then the thunderhawk in terms of power. Its far larger then a T-hawk with 2-3 times the transport. In the damascus gulf crusade the mantas are described hovering behind the front lines trading fire with warhounds on an equal footing, providing support to the troops they just unloaded. The manta fills the role of titans for the tau while still keeping their mobile warfare mentality.

Hi Guys
Here is my latest creation of a tau titan, hope you like it!

regards
Mark

The body and legs are excellent, but the feet look somewhat out of place.

Looks amazing and not.too bad.for tabletop usage.

I like the way the ion cannons got worked in there.

What's its designation and XV numbers? I sugfest an XV upwards of 120 as it is far above broadsides at XV-88

Looks like a mechwarrior chicken.

Deadshot wrote:What's its designation and XV numbers? I sugfest an XV upwards of 120 as it is far above broadsides at XV-88

I'd assume it'd be an XV-78, or maybe XV-75... though I'm unsure XV is applicable, maybe XX-78.
(Going by the designations available )

Why 78? I thoughtl better stuff had higher numbers.

It's mass class, what it's meant to take down and the weapons it carries that determine what its number is.

The Hammerhead w/ Railgun is a TX-78 for example.

Why?

The Titan's design and use doesn't really fit into the ways of war of the Tau, while they do use walkers, they are advanced and designed as Support/Fire base units. A titan is designed for siege, full on warfare and it requires a trained crew to operate it. I doubt any Tau drone could properly handle the task of using the Titan, and the Machine Spirit would probably destroy the titan so the Xeno's could not use it. In all honestly, the Tau's technology suits them better, and their human helpers are effectively cannon fodder.

Hi Guys
thanks for the feedback
I have only just got into warhammer 40k and find it a fantastic hobby genre, my typical wargaming is on the modernwarfare era. this just takes it to another level.

I haven't picked a name for the model and hoped some one would do me the pleasure.

I like the tau but some how found there was something missing to have a lot of fun with, so I decided on the walker, made from all kinds of bits n bobs from my model spare parts box. the fun starts when this thing wanders around citys accidently squashing enemies (and any innocent bystanders....oops) its also good for giving the ork stompas a good kicking.

so.............can someone please give it a name... and we shall pick the best one from the selection


thanks again


Mark

i fitted gas tanks although they could be flamers! to the front of the body to take out vehicle crews etc without firing off a round (using the same tactics as ww1 trench warfare)

They're semi-sentient, but not politically-affiliated. What the Tau lack is the psychic potential for a Princeps to pilot it. This could be resolved by having an Imperial Titan crew join the Greater Good... somewhat stretching the bounds of credulity, but whatever.

The model looks good, though.

After just a glance through this threat, I love people saying "this is an aweful idea" and "it's inconceivable".

How is it?

The Tau take many human worlds under its wing as human auxiliaries, so along with them would go any tech they had under their possetion. A Warhound may be one of them, any titan bigger than that I fear would be a step too far. But other than that I'm up for seeing something in action. :Thumbsup:

Well, because no Imperial World turns over without a fight. Just like Commissars, Princeps are some of the most loyal Imperial servants, supporting both the Imperium and the Mechanicus. The odds of them siding with a rebellious faction (and not, themselves, being Chaos-worshiping sleeper agents or something) is... pretty slim, by the fluff.

It would almost require the Princeps to die during the change-over, before he can fire up the Titan, in order for it to be successful, since no one else can drive it. Without a Princeps, though, the Titan becomes a giant, immobile gun platform and bomb-magnet.

Slim, but not impossible. Imperial worlds that have never been retaken back into the imperial fold during the Great Crusade, could have in all likelihood Joined with the Tau for protection out of free will. Not everyone wants to be part of the Imperium, as it is Oppressive. Considering there is fluff that states before the great crusade Tech Adepts went far and wide bringing with them the information to build "Knights", it isn't that far of a stretch for them to take Warhound info with them as well. And as a lot of the worlds with Knight Tech fought the imperium when trying to bring them back to Imperial truth, it just isn't that much of a leap.

Fluff, a lot of the time is what you make, it. This game is ever-evolving, and fluff-nazi's need to start being more flexible.




But then again thats my two cents and I expect as standard for someone to shoot me down in flames




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panoramat wrote:Hi Guys
Here is my latest creation of a tau titan, hope you like it!

regards
Mark

Reminds me of metal gear Rex

My excuse for the tau superheavies I'm working on are
A: Ship-to-ship battlesuits.
(such as the Aestevalis in Martian Successor Nadesico, basically larger battlesuits for taking out ships in space)
B: Prototype(s).
(Trying things out, it may or may not work for production, but you can try it once can't you?)
C: A specific need.
(i.e. - entrenched sieged warriors and earth caste, lots of wrecked suits / tanks / whatever, can't get out of where ever it is, need a heavy weapons solution)

ALSO - There's nothing that says a princeps can't turn. I mean, you wouldn't have chaos titans if it were impossible.

I guess you could say that the reason why the tau would need a heavy walker is just in case the planetary conditions are not suitable for their more preferred craft. Such as strong winds that knock their hammerheads away, or something like that.

Ovion wrote:My excuse for the tau superheavies I'm working on are
A: Ship-to-ship battlesuits.
(such as the Aestevalis in Martian Successor Nadesico, basically larger battlesuits for taking out ships in space)
B: Prototype(s).
(Trying things out, it may or may not work for production, but you can try it once can't you?)
C: A specific need.
(i.e. - entrenched sieged warriors and earth caste, lots of wrecked suits / tanks / whatever, can't get out of where ever it is, need a heavy weapons solution)

ALSO - There's nothing that says a princeps can't turn. I mean, you wouldn't have chaos titans if it were impossible.

Princeps turn to chaos through a far more insidious process...
A princeps turning to the Tau would be far less believable IMO...
Not impossible just not all that likely...

Or how about we just insert the story for the cool model that make us feel best about it.

It's funny that people can believe a faction is capable of warp travel (to a lesser extent than IoM granted) but is unable to program a big robot to walk and fire its guns.

One person to pilot, one person to fire the guns...done. If it can happen in other sci-fi universes (battletech) it can happen in 40k.

agnosto wrote:It's funny that people can believe a faction is capable of warp travel (to a lesser extent than IoM granted) but is unable to program a big robot to walk and fire its guns.

One person to pilot, one person to fire the guns...done. If it can happen in other sci-fi universes (battletech) it can happen in 40k.

My thoughts exactly... But fluff-nazi's don't like it when people try to introduce things that aren't canon.


My thoughts for a Tau walker are reminiscent of Zone of the Enders. <3 that game !!!