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... i like the shorter ears

I really like the positioning of this lot the model itself shows a battle scene.

@Llamahead: I'm not completely happy with the book grot yet myself, but then, he's nowhere near finished yet.

@Gitsplitta: If only the effort could guarantee the spectacular-ness.

@Ovion: It is going to be fun painting between those small ears - not that the longer ones would have actually made that any easier. While I do like Asterix, I am actually going for the Dark Angels Lion Helm Bearer look. The funny thing about trying to mimic Space Marines ideas in Orks is sometimes things just don't quite line up. The helm bearer is a good example. The grot is about the right size, but a helmet to fit an Ork Warboss is *much* bigger than a Space Marine Helmet. The longer ears are probably a better proportional fit - but then they look a bit too comic-ish/delicate for an Ork (IMHO). However, I noticed on closer inspection tonight the Lion Helm has a skull and braid around it - so I'm sure I can clutter it up more with an Ork skull (or SM helmet?) and chain

@Matt.Kingsley: Noted. I have plenty more long ears should I change my mind.

@Santobell: Is there more to that reaction you aren't telling me about? (Just curious)

@CommissarKhaine: Of course you like the long ears I'll keep making the book grot look older in mind - though I'm not sure how to off the top of my head (or whether I want to) - do Grotz get old? I guess you would be the person to ask Some insane purchases have been made - the boss pole might start up again in a couple of days...

@endtransmission: Passing the hate was punishment for your cheeky public challenge Can't work between Christmas and New Year now - I have a challenge! I seriously doubt Morgrim et al will meet the challenge requirements - I should switch to something that has a chance - I figure I'll just start painting come my week off. You should do a mini diorama for your Inquisitor's retinue - it will slow you down and give me a chance to catch up! (I mean, not be quite so far behind). Yes it's Orky!

@monkeytroll: Of course you prefer the longer ears too I see what I can do re glyph taktiks in da book once I get to the painting (painting? what's that?). I hadn't thought about using watchers with a head swap. I had thought of using Gnoblars - anyone know how they compare to Grotz? I'll keep it it mind, but I really need to reign in my spending Plus I thought it might be fun to wrap some Grotz in Green Stuff robes if necessary You really inspect the backgrounds of my images don't you! First the bitz boxes, now the hurricane bolters - thankfully I don't have anything else on the go than what you have seen in the blog - so no, no more 'koptas for the moment Yes, there are big axes and horns - lots of horns! (Maybe I can put a set on the front of a Trukk...) Failing that, I could always out some *gasp* actual Minotaurs together...

@Ovion: Sounds like too much work, selling Minotaur bits on ebay - and anyway - you never know when those bitz might come in handy (monkeytroll has already corrupted me)

@bigfish: Finally, some sense!

@Aboucher: That was the original plan!

Phew! A lot of comments to get through. Pity my update won't be anywhere near as thrilling. So I started this evening determined to make a start on the Sword 'o Sekritz bearer. After ruling many lines on plasticard, it occurred to me I should probably plan out the sword a bit better first. So no modelling tonight, just planz/sketches. I want something oversized (of course) and brutal looking (goes without saying) and Cloud's sword with a bit of an Orky make-over seemed to suit the bill. I'll just make that out of plasticard right? Anyway - the initial sketches:


And a mockup with da bearer:


I mean - what can go wrong?

Catchya!

I like the look of that bearer and sword, good luck with that. I've always found a simple sword or axe surprisingly tricky to pull off well for some reason, probably because I never tried planning them either

Gnoblars are a little smaller than grots, skinnier, but not much. I've interchanged pieces before, as long as it's bigger gnoblars and smaller grots They'd make a good base for gs robes I'd imagine.

I just had to say- This is epic:

Incredible!

imagine when more stuff gets put on it...

I know, it's driving me mad! There is soooooooooo much room for detail. I mean, I thought I had a big base on that grot-o-mine, but this... I feel like I should get a prize for participation. It's so massive. It's going to make a brilliant center piece to the army.

@monkeytroll: We'll have to see what the ol' Arakasi magic can pull off... with a bit of Dakkanaut help of course! Well, I've bought more Grotz so I guess Gnoblars will have to wait... (all the best ones are probably attached to Ogres anyway...)

@The Good Green: Good to see you still about - and enjoying my small contributions to Dakka

@Matt.Kingsley: Took the words right out of my... fingers?

So, apparently all three of my "purchases" (why spend once when you can spend thrice?) were dispatched today. Two are first class - so maybe I'll get them tomorrow, Royal Mail willing? If so, da Banna Bearer will be able to progress again tomorrow night...

In the meantime, Da Sword 'o Sekritz won't make itself! Cut out plasticard parts:


Carefully stacked up:


That's still missing the grip and pommel, but has the beginnings of the cross-guard on the left. Some serious gluing, filing and detailing still to do (in addition to the missing parts) - but should start to give you an idea of where I'm heading. Not quite what I had originally planned, but that was probably too dainty for Orks anyway

Catchya!

Good base, I presume it'll still be getting some added teef?

At least two according to the sketches I think I should be able to follow these simple steps:

1) Is it Orky enough? If yes, finish.
2) Add teef, rivets and/or glyphs. Goto step 1

Shouldn't that be the other way round at the start?

Need to add teef, rivets and/or glyphs at the moment



edit: or at least a 'if not go to 2' at the end of 1 surely

Wow. I don't subscribe a lot of P&M's but that warboss diorama is impressive!

Sword of sekrits is looking good!

@CommissarKhaine: Of course you like the long ears I'll keep making the book grot look older in mind - though I'm not sure how to off the top of my head (or whether I want to) - do Grotz get old? I guess you would be the person to ask Some insane purchases have been made - the boss pole might start up again in a couple of days...

For older grots, I'd go for a very pale skin tone. I've also seen people add long hair or a long bear to mark them as old. As for grotz getting old: one or two years, at best?

@monkeytroll: Dat sort 'o sneaky thinkin' iz for grotz an' liable ta end wic an 'eavy object ta do back 'o yurr 'ead!

@pretre: Welcome to the madness! (Disclaimer: Madness may not be quite as much as monkeytroll's blog)

@CommissarKhaine: Now it's looking better? Would an old Grot of one or two years be old enough for long hair or a long beard?!? I thought Grotz, like Orkz, were hairless Probably to stop other Orks or Grotz pulling it

Da Sword 'o Sekritz continues care of Royal Mail - not.

I've only just glued the outer blades on, so still some cleanup on the cross-guard for them to do.

The money shot? (well, cute shot anyway, IMO)


Yes monkeytroll - much more Orkifying to do - just concentrating on the general shape to begin with

I hope he'll fit on the base! (probably far right?)

Catchya!

That sword is pure AWSOME!
It fits so well

so far so good there, i like the shape that the sword is taking

Oh yes, youz right, err, *cough* (in a lower voice) Youze right, those grotz getz in 'ere an cauze all sorts of gak if youze ain't careful like.

Plenty of madness to go round I think

You haven't sent it via Cork-signia have you

Basic shapes looking great, it does evoke a Cloud feeling so you got that part down fine. Far right as we look at it, so he's on Morgrim's left? Looks like the end of the blade will get lost under da boss, but any shorter and it would lose a lot of impact and I don't think that it would be an issue.

@A1rebirth, Rogue Wolves: Thanks - Datz da plan!

@monkeytroll: Yup, on Morgrim's left. Eyeballing it it looks like it will be okay - but I guess I need to do a dry run soon

Minotaur Banner is here! Potential Grot Bearer's aren't - but I can still make progress tonight on it now - yay!

Cute little grot . And the hair is just an option, but plenty of old grots/orks had hair. The old Goff rokkerz, old nobz... They lost their hair in 4th ed. or so,

@CommissarKhaine: I thought it was hair squigs - even back then...

Right - so the elusive Minotaur Banner:


And where we are going for Morgrim's Boss Pole (sans pole and Grot Wotcha):


Original plan was to use two scrolls on each side - which may have worked with the smaller Black Orc banner, but didn't seem right here. Additional advantage - I don't have to worry about very similar looking scrolls Nothing is glued in this picture, so feel free to make any suggestions without remorse I'm liking it so far, so I'm sure you guys will have some different opinions - you always do! (even for the better sometimes )

Catchya!

Hmm, DA sword bearer, Lion pelt, horns, scrolls... I think that's all that's needed

I mean, if it was me I'd say there seems to be a few cogs missing, and it could do with a tad more wiring, but...


So how big is that beast of a banna, and how far off the ground will the grot have it?

how will the grot be able to hold it? A grot has small hands, you know...

OMG how big is that Boss Pole going to be?!

Bigga is betta!

why would Morgrim let a weedy grot carry his banner rather then a boy?

@monkeytroll: Cogs and wiring may still appear - yet to get to the smaller details! (Or did you mean large cogs and industrial piping?) The banner is pretty big! I've been waiting for the bearer choices to arrive - which they now have - so maybe a sizing pic in the near future... (though see below commens regarding bearer issues)

@Matt.Kingsley: Holding it is not the issue - keeping it up might be though (or not being blown away with it)

@Rogue Wolves: Not much bigger than that, but I still need to do the actual pole still - size it to the bearer and the scenic base/diorama...

@CommissarKhaine: At last we agree

@bigfish: Now this is a thought. Endtransmission and I were discussing some ideas off-Dakka yesterday with regards to this. Two or more Grotz holding it up might be better - but much more challenging - though he did suggest wrapping them in the Wotcha robes and just having the bottom one's nose/head sticking out I had considered using a Boy simply because of how large it is. A Runtherd might be a suitable compromise. In the end I'll probably stick with the Grot though - the small size of the Grot should emphasise the size of the Boss pole further. Also - what Ork wants to be the Warboss' lackey, holding his Boss Pole wherever he goes rather than getting stuck in?

My potential bearers arrived. I'll forgive Royal Mail as GW and FW did send them 2nd Class... now, choices. Choice 1 is the Grot Banna Bearer from the FW Ork Mek Boss Buzzgob. Advantage - he is already carrying a boss pole! Disadvantage - he comes on a custom base - which will either be hard to remove or hard to incorporate into my scenic base. Choice 2 is the Grot Tekkie #3 - just need to replace the Wrench with the Boss Pole...

Thoughts?

Banner Bearer from FW = my 2 cents worth, well that and to me the scale is dead right I cna see the grots dragging thr word, helm and gear behind them. Besides and Ork would just take the sword and bash stuff with it instead of hold it.

The tekkie would look pretty good, hanging off the huge banna pole, knackered after lugging it about. But doesn't he have a backpack and gubbins that might not fit it with the wotcha look?

You wouldn't need to remove all of the FW base, I can see the retinue dropping several interesting bits around them as they stop to survey the field.

So err, not much help there Just trying to keep consistent

@Santobell: I think I have to agree, the angle of the Boss Pole was what sold it in the end.

@monkeytroll: I wasn't too worried about the gubbinz - either leave it or cover it i robes/bandages.

Well, I've managed to successfully take the FW Grot off his base - I think well enough that I'll be able to use that base on another project without too much effort I think the suggestion by Gitsplitta to purchase a Jeweller's saw early on has paid off multiple times over now!



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Also have da Sword 'o Sekritz bearer in place - not hidden by Morgrim - so that's good too!


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So - now I need a bump so I can put up pics Curse my unusually quick reply!

i like that grot tekkie alot