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BLACKHAND wrote:Stunning work brother, that gun is just gonna rock once its painted ( not that it doesn't rock now!)
I especially like how much it's look has shifted from orkyness to a more Skaveny style, Can't wait to see the smaller airships!

Smaller ships will have to wait I broke my last 1mm drill bit but I did get a gift form my wife a lovely box of clan rats, so they get some love soon enough ... shame the rats are almost one piece molds it's going to be tricky my original idea is out the door basically so the new plan is megaman/ikitclaw style arm guns to count as shooters instead.

wolfshadow wrote:Lookin' Evil there bro.
You make me want to come to Aussie land just to come play that thing. :-P

The army is really starting to feel right and by that I mean look evil and nasty on the tabletop! oh and all are welcome to come and fight them but it would be a damn expensive game, what with all the air fairs and all.

Armorum Ferrum wrote:Love this project, rats in space kick ass

Cheers mate good to have you here.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Freaking awesome. Its so successful because you've managed to take away all of the other styles, make it pure skaven but you also seamlessly blended futuristic tech in as well. Wow, and keep it up.

I could not have said it better myself mate ... welcome and enjoy the show!


Update - More Airship pics
New Deck Gun with some paint (not done yet)

Engineering assembled

You do realize because of your crazy airship design, that I am going to break apart one of my stompas tonight so I can try this out...like I needed something else to do.

I do love it though. A very awesome crazy conversion.

Lord Scythican wrote:You do realize because of your crazy airship design, that I am going to break apart one of my stompas tonight so I can try this out...like I needed something else to do.
I do love it though. A very awesome crazy conversion.

Everyone needs to convert a Stompa it's in their blood!

Quick update

Red Led emergency lighting now working (not the best pic sorry



(yes I need to fix the split in the bombs they did that when I cut the pin hole in them to attach them to the sides).

Really nice
I really like skaven weapenry and have often thought of using it for orks or just starting an skaven army I just think WHF lacks a good numer of serious weapons... I just dont really like infantry..

KEEP IT UP

DamienOfTheWRAAAGH wrote:Really nice
I really like skaven weapenry and have often thought of using it for orks or just starting an skaven army I just think WHF lacks a good numer of serious weapons... I just dont really like infantry..

KEEP IT UP

It's hard to come up with weapons and gear that slots in with the WHFB range as well, I hope I'm doing alright at it as GW release new kits I'm doing my best to incorporate the style into the army, thanks for the comments and tuning in.

Quick Update - Started a Base

TLOS is not your friend. :-P

sorry if i cant find the post where you refere to your technique how you mounted that airship, what did you do to make it stand on the... er standing thing...?
what did you have to do inside to make it good and fix there?

by the way a great work, i lurked here only but this work is truly mindblowing^^

vik

You should see it in person

well to bad its not likely gonna happen to go down under^^
tho this might be a godd excuse^^ that and LotR sets to sight see^^

vik

That blimp is to awesome
It looks really orky (in my case this is a compliment)
mind if I use the idea, I'll probably wont begin on it till next year if ever

cheers

That is a killer airship! So awesome and full of inspiration. I think you may have just convinced me to pick up a Stompa box. You bastard!

Great work.

wolfshadow wrote:TLOS is not your friend. :-P

No no it is not but it's not a friend to any stompa so a flying one just make it more interesting, the ship is definitely a long fangs wet dream.

Viktor von Domm wrote:sorry if i cant find the post where you refere to your technique how you mounted that airship, what did you do to make it stand on the... er standing thing...?
what did you have to do inside to make it good and fix there?

by the way a great work, i lurked here only but this work is truly mindblowing^^

vik

Actually I forgot to write one or take shots of it but I'll explain the maddness.

Step 1. When designing how to do the interior I chose to use the wooden struts off the warp cannon as a way of strengthening the ships hull the shape of each triangle was shaved to fit the hulls interior (I had to do this as my original stand was way to flimsy and the ship had no real internal structure to mount anything to, it would simple collapse under it own weight).

Step 2. Was securing these beams in place one just inside the opening in the side and the other deeper at the heaviest point of the ship (which is just under the smoke stacks).

Step 3. Involved drilling through the hull and into the beam, then inserting a long (about 4 inch brass rod into the hole leaving about half an inch exposed.

Step 4. Using a cast of the Valkyries mounting socket (more as a guide) I made four holes and again attached the socket to the ship with rods for strength.

Step 5. Taking a standard large vehicle flying base I cut the end on an angle roughly 30 degrees and inserted a brass rod into the top rear of the stand and drilled a hole in the front to match up with our exposed rod on the airship.

Step 6. line up the rods and holes and slide together.

Step 7. was to do a similar process to the base of the stand and attach it to the wooden base.

I will take some photo's of it apart so you can see the result but the key was to line up my bulkheads/beams with the flying bases stand so that the weight of the ship was carried in a vertical manner saving any breakage (which is what happened to it while on display).

Arakasi wrote:You should see it in person

Hey matey, I think I was more blown away by your trukks and boyz conversions than my airship, actually it was the large amounts of detail you put into your builds that prompted me to do the interior of the airship the way I have as opposed to the way it was before. oh and I'm still waiting for that rematch hurry up and move here dammit!

Viktor von Domm wrote:well to bad its not likely gonna happen to go down under^^
tho this might be a godd excuse^^ that and LotR sets to sight see^^

vik

With that in mind if anyone is in Perth and can get to the Perth GW store you can see it in person after next week, where it will be on display and available for games while in store. It will probably be there a few weeks and I'll be floating around as well.

DamienOfTheWRAAAGH wrote:That blimp is to awesome
It looks really orky (in my case this is a compliment)
mind if I use the idea, I'll probably wont begin on it till next year if ever

cheers

Go for it anyone and everyone is welcome to build a ship like this, the scary thing is after I do this I'm going to attempt a scratch built thunderhawk (for my Legion of the Damned)and then I'll be making an even bigger airship to use as terrain (I'm cleaning up an area of space to have a permanent gaming table setup at home).

The Good Green wrote:That is a killer airship! So awesome and full of inspiration. I think you may have just convinced me to pick up a Stompa box. You bastard!

Great work.

Everyone should have one of these :p

No new updates as yet today but here is the list I need to finish it.
1.Attach airfoils and wings
2.Make the base pretty
3. paint base
4.final paint of ship patching rough work and fill unwanted holes (there is a lot of wanted ones too)
5.green-stuffing more warp flame and smoke billowing out of wanted holes and pipes etc.
6.add an anchor
7. final paint and washing before sealing with a matt finish.

Oh and if I get time make a little plaque for the base to say what it is.

Tanks

Actually I forgot to write one or take shots of it but I'll explain the maddness.

Step 1. When designing how to do the interior I chose to use the wooden struts off the warp cannon as a way of strengthening the ships hull the shape of each triangle was shaved to fit the hulls interior (I had to do this as my original stand was way to flimsy and the ship had no real internal structure to mount anything to, it would simple collapse under it own weight).

Step 2. Was securing these beams in place one just inside the opening in the side and the other deeper at the heaviest point of the ship (which is just under the smoke stacks).

Step 3. Involved drilling through the hull and into the beam, then inserting a long (about 4 inch brass rod into the hole leaving about half an inch exposed.

Step 4. Using a cast of the Valkyries mounting socket (more as a guide) I made four holes and again attached the socket to the ship with rods for strength.

Step 5. Taking a standard large vehicle flying base I cut the end on an angle roughly 30 degrees and inserted a brass rod into the top rear of the stand and drilled a hole in the front to match up with our exposed rod on the airship.

Step 6. line up the rods and holes and slide together.

Step 7. was to do a similar process to the base of the stand and attach it to the wooden base.

I will take some photo's of it apart so you can see the result but the key was to line up my bulkheads/beams with the flying bases stand so that the weight of the ship was carried in a vertical manner saving any breakage (which is what happened to it while on display).

thanks for that description...brass rod...
well did you ever measure your model asto how heavy it is?

would be nice and a revelation for me^^

vik

Fantastic airship!

Viktor von Domm wrote:
thanks for that description...brass rod...
well did you ever measure your model aslo how heavy it is?

would be nice and a revelation for me^^

vik

The whole thing is 15 inches long in total and weight about a kilo 920grams give or take.
As far as measuring before building I did not do this, not on this project I wanted it to be as improvised as possible.

Commander Cain wrote: Fantastic airship!

Cheers matey, I hope you enjoy the thread, come for the ship but stay for the rats so to speak.

DamienOfTheWRAAAGH wrote:Tanks

No problem

well compared to my airship this is well over on ht e light side then, the least my airship is is a light weight^^...thanks for the data!

vik

That looks super cool!
Aren't you concerned that it looks too... orCy?
Fabulous conversion anyways

Awesome work as usual, Santo...

I can't imagine the work needed to reach such an epic airship...

Ok Dakka ate my post so I'll add these updates and hope the missing post appears if not I will reply to everyone tonight (trying to avoid a double post).

Mini Update - Trukk/war-buggy prototype

I have been messing with two designs for my trukks for the army one is a flying boat liek the larger airship only wee tiny in comparison, the other is a land based trukk using parts form the ork battlewagon and the Doom Wheel.

Like my Doomwheelie kopta, the tunnel rat and the smaller Ratt kopta this is an experimental build and may or may not end up in the army and uses many parts you will have seen before on some of my other builds (the idea is the one that works will get new kits purchased to build them).

So here goes. it's made in two parts the idea is I can have the front only if I need a war-buggy or both together if I need a trukk transport.
effectively it's a buggy with a trailer.



Front half (guns not fixed it;s for demo only and will be replaced with a flamer based weapon)


Trailer


CnC not just welcome but needed!

Awesome! Really has buckets of character. My vote is for this over the flying things, this way the airship will be totally unique.

Keep up the great work!

I am most likely to late to say this [pesky dog tried to eat the wires and got a nasty shock] but if its a skaven/skave airship wouldent the balloon be some sort of huge gas filled floating hellpit abomination?

I just came across this thread and wanted to lend some praise!
A friend of mine and I have discussed how awesome it would be for GW to create a space rat army. I can't wait to see the finished army.

Amazing work you have done here!

Liking the war buggy/truck, I still think a swarm of doomwheel copters supporting the airship will look cool but I do like the buggy.

Grotsrus has a point though, a gas filled balloon with abomination arms and legs sticking out randomly would be sweet especially if painted as stretched skin with patches of fur and veins all over, creeepy look to it and would be a great vehicle for a plague priest type unit and a s a contrast to your more tech-looking airship

I like this doom wheel contraption. Really makes me think of that Russian tank designed before WWI which had 2 huge (about 8 meters, iirc) bicycle wheels on the front. It was huge, unwieldy, and got stuck in the mud for the entirety of the war, but I think that Skave tek could easily undermine some mud. Do it, or something like what you've got looking

Longest reply of my life here :p

Viktor von Domm wrote:well compared to my airship this is well over on ht e light side then, the least my airship is is a light weight^^...thanks for the data!
vik

I want to make a bigger one for terrain but we will see, yeah my biggest issue is it's weight I used so much brass building a frame to attach eveyrhtign ti and to run it's lengths that for a model it's fairly heavy.

Mukkin'About wrote:That looks super cool!
Aren't you concerned that it looks too... orCy?
Fabulous conversion anyways

I am deliberately keeping an Ork look to the army so that from an opponents view point it's easier to picture what is used as what, the problem with the airship is it's so damn big and there is nothing in the whfb range for the skaven on that scale so parts are a premium which has left it a bit more Orky than I would have liked.

Yggdrasil wrote:Awesome work as usual, Santo...
I can't imagine the work needed to reach such an epic airship...

It took a lot of planning and messing about with Hi-Res images of the parts in photoshop to see what could fit and where, which all went right out the door the moment I had it in my hands haha.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Awesome! Really has buckets of character. My vote is for this over the flying things, this way the airship will be totally unique.
Keep up the great work!

Cheers matey thanks for the compliment!

grotsrus wrote:I am most likely to late to say this [pesky dog tried to eat the wires and got a nasty shock] but if its a skaven/skave airship wouldent the balloon be some sort of huge gas filled floating hellpit abomination?

Yes I did think of this and in Warhammer yep I dare say it would but in a 40k setting such a thing would be counter productive and too easy a target it would be a situation of 13 armor all round except on the balloon which only has 4.

Tharbickmonoploid wrote:I just came across this thread and wanted to lend some praise!
A friend of mine and I have discussed how awesome it would be for GW to create a space rat army. I can't wait to see the finished army.

Well it's good to have you on board mate!

Necanor wrote:Amazing work you have done here!

Thanks good to here from you!

BLACKHAND wrote:Liking the war buggy/truck, I still think a swarm of doomwheel copters supporting the airship will look cool but I do like the buggy.

Grotsrus has a point though, a gas filled balloon with abomination arms and legs sticking out randomly would be sweet especially if painted as stretched skin with patches of fur and veins all over, creeepy look to it and would be a great vehicle for a plague priest type unit and a s a contrast to your more tech-looking airship

Yes yes it's been demand of me in about 50 PM's I will bring the Doomwheelie Koptas back I just need to get the parts which I'll probably do this Saturday (along with the plastic card for my Legion of the Damned Thunderhawk) :p

Lord Kaesar II wrote:I like this doom wheel contraption. Really makes me think of that Russian tank designed before WWI which had 2 huge (about 8 meters, iirc) bicycle wheels on the front. It was huge, unwieldy, and got stuck in the mud for the entirety of the war, but I think that Skave tek could easily undermine some mud. Do it, or something like what you've got looking

I think we've been goggling the same things that's where I got the idea from



On completely unrelated news I got my hands of a Storm-Raven model while at a local outlet (not to keep but to mess about with) and I tell you it's awful, but what excellent parts. Sadly it's tiny I mean Rhino small but with wings which is a real shame.

Santo wrote:On completely unrelated news I got my hands of a Storm-Raven model while at a local outlet (not to keep but to mess about with) and I tell you it's awful, but what excellent parts. Sadly it's tiny I mean Rhino small but with wings which is a real shame.

It looks from other comparison shots that its on the small side but I figure kitbashing it together a valk would be sweet IMHO

Valks are such a good kit it's sad to see the likes of the raven make it to production, that said I can see where the design comes from but in comparison to many kitbashes and home builds it's a pretty bad design.

Kinda reminds me of a Squig with wings.


Anyhow Minor update - more paint!
I started to work on the ships details a bit more, first off was the cannon... oh and I made a nifty little anchor you can see it hanging down in the pick.

Minor update - Airship competed well sorta,kinda....enough!

The air ship is based and finally pretty much done only a few small touch ups to do now so I thought I'd share some pics with you all of that last few changes to the ship give you a size comparison as well before I put my ratty brain to work on clan rats and how to convince the wife that three Doom-wheels and a box of plague monks is a family necessity and should come out of the food budget!

First up is the new nose.


Then I detailed the engines.


Finished the warp detail on the gun.


And posed it for the camera (from left to right - Mantis Sgt for Git, Skaven Warlord & home grown Vermin Lord... oh and the thing in the back is an airship :p ).


If anyone is wondering what the swirly lump is on the base under the ground flock, that's blutac I will peel it up leaving a nice empty spot to paint in some warp fire detail and add rocks.