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I though this thread was about Battle Titans,not Warhounds?Battle Titans are Reavers,Warlords,and by name Emperors.The are not really battle Titns,but the full name is Emperor Battle Titan.

You thought so?
Should have been aware that any Tau thread dives down to "railgunz 1 1 1!" sooner or later.

The lack of encounters with Titans of the first line, makes it hard to decide what may happen.
Additionally the mistake is made, it has to be loyalist machines. Not nice to ignore the traitors.


Plus the latest story of imperium vs tau seems to be considered invalid by some posters.
If we take GW's approach to it, the model to sell is the model who wins.
So plastic titans or FW resin most likely wipes the floor with any opponent in the accompanying fluff then.

Back to the start of this thread, a race like Tau who try to preserve ressources tends to keep out of the major conflicts.
Battle Titans aren't fielded in unimportant theathres of war.
So both may never met.
If they do, either the mechanicum wants them dead, and supplies wouldn't be limited and the battle would soak up so many ressources the Tau empire bleeds dry, or the Tau find themselves between some warring factions and decide to "ally" with one of them.

im2randomghgh wrote:@ the Taros quote, no explosion because GW still hasn't taken their head out of their asses and learned what the Hell a railgun is.

MASS DRIVERS AND RAILGUNS ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

MASS DRIVERS ARE A SUB-TYPE OF COIL/GAUSS GUN, AND RAILGUNS ARE NOT

It's their world, so they can write whatever they want.
In 40k Railguns don't explode on impact...

Being the only race with common sense, they'll probably realise that such a valuable strategic asset with such a huge-ass profile is a pretty silly idea and take it out with some high-calibre gun on a small vehicle chassis... Y'know, a valuable strategic asset that isn't easy to shoot at from miles around.

Grey Templar wrote:

What do the coils of a Mass Driver make when they are together?

Electromagnets.

What are the rails of a Railgun made of?

Electromagnets.

and your diagram leads from the generic Mass Driver to the more specific Railgun.

Seems pretty same to me...


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LumenPraebeo wrote:

nomotog wrote:What dose it matter if a rail gun is a mass driver or not? They could call it the woodo do shooty thing. That wouldn't change how it acts and we know own it acts.

This dude makes more sense than all of you put together.

This all is try to implement logic to 40k world. And that is the impossible mission because one guy say one thing, other guy other thing and they both have enough evidence to support their own claims.


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Kanluwen wrote:
But you see, here's the problem. It comes down to the whole thing about the Tiger Shark being "the answer to the Warhound". If that's their answer to the Warhound, that's pretty clearly meaning that they have yet to encounter Warlords, Reavers, or Imperators.

Bravo Kan , this is the main point of this thread

To bring down one Warhound ( witch is the smallest and weakest of all Titans ). Tau had to mount main guns from their main battleships to kill it ( like taking a Nova Cannon from Emperor class battleship and mounting it on Baneblade to kill Necron Doomsday Monolith ).
And what if that weapon don't work with bigger Titans? And Tau already used the most powerful guns in their arsenal ( their main battleship guns ).

And please don't tell me that the answer will be: "Nah, Tau will make up some weapon that eat Titans and crap Dark Matter."

Does no one here remember the Damocles Crusade? Tau fought Titans there, and they fought the Imperials to a standstill... page 14 of Codex: Tau Empire, trying to find my old codex 'cause I think that had more in it

Edit: and this is some 200+ years before the Taros campaign...

Beregond wrote:Does no one here remember the Damocles Crusade? Tau fought Titans there, and they fought the Imperials to a standstill... page 14 of Codex: Tau Empire, trying to find my old codex 'cause I think that had more in it

Edit: and this is some 200+ years before the Taros campaign...

Really? Aw, we all completely forgot about the Damocles Crusade! I mean, I can't believe no one has mentioned at all over these 8 pages that you obviously didn't bother to read.
Good job, you've added nothing to the discussion because you haven't even bothered to read the first page.

Henners91 wrote: common sense

don't blow up our nice little 40k verse

This is the realm of megdeath, explosions aplenty and he throws in common sense...

iproxtaco wrote:

Beregond wrote:Does no one here remember the Damocles Crusade? Tau fought Titans there, and they fought the Imperials to a standstill... page 14 of Codex: Tau Empire, trying to find my old codex 'cause I think that had more in it

Edit: and this is some 200+ years before the Taros campaign...

Really? Aw, we all completely forgot about the Damocles Crusade! I mean, I can't believe no one has mentioned at all over these 8 pages that you obviously didn't bother to read.
Good job, you've added nothing to the discussion because you haven't even bothered to read the first page.

Read most (or all, I dunno, not exactly keeping count) of them, thank you very much, although not all today. There's no need to be so rude about it. However, all people mention is that the Tau 'got whooped by Titans' during that crusade. Clearly not the case, or they would have lost. It states that they were 'countered by Tau Manta Missile Destroyers' - this does not imply that the Tau were completely unprepared or unable to deal with Titans, or that they had to utilise any special equipment or whatnot... the thread asked how the Tau would deal with it, people argued that the Tau cannot, the Damocles Gulf fluff answers the question. What more is there to say, let alone be very pointedly rude about?

Beregond wrote:
Read most (or all, I dunno, not exactly keeping count) of them, thank you very much, although not all today. There's no need to be so rude about it. However, all people mention is that the Tau 'got whooped by Titans' during that crusade. Clearly not the case, or they would have lost. It states that they were 'countered by Tau Manta Missile Destroyers' - this does not imply that the Tau were completely unprepared or unable to deal with Titans, or that they had to utilise any special equipment or whatnot... the thread asked how the Tau would deal with it, people argued that the Tau cannot, the Damocles Gulf fluff answers the question. What more is there to say, let alone be very pointedly rude about?

And what part of "impending Tyranid invasion" you didn't understand? The crusade came to halt because of the full might of Tau military involved there ( even Titans can't kill that much that fast, and Imperials didn't have that much troops at the begining what would they normally have in real crusade ). Imperials would get reinforcements without problem, but the approach of new enemy ( Behemoth ) and attack on Macragge change plans. All spare troops + Damocles Gulf forces were appointed toward Ultramar to halt the Tyranids ( I am only guessing it's that because one codex say Behemoth, the other say Kraken ).
In any way - Tau were saved by Tyranids and since then Imperial changed tactics - they started to fortify worlds in Ultramar. ( because of constant fear of new Hive Fleet attack )
In any way, Tau will soon have instead of backwater colonies fortress worlds all around them.

And Tau can deal with 1 Titan ( Warhound ) but they still have to invent something for others...

Beregond wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

Beregond wrote:Does no one here remember the Damocles Crusade? Tau fought Titans there, and they fought the Imperials to a standstill... page 14 of Codex: Tau Empire, trying to find my old codex 'cause I think that had more in it

Edit: and this is some 200+ years before the Taros campaign...

Really? Aw, we all completely forgot about the Damocles Crusade! I mean, I can't believe no one has mentioned at all over these 8 pages that you obviously didn't bother to read.
Good job, you've added nothing to the discussion because you haven't even bothered to read the first page.

Read most (or all, I dunno, not exactly keeping count) of them, thank you very much, although not all today. There's no need to be so rude about it. However, all people mention is that the Tau 'got whooped by Titans' during that crusade. Clearly not the case, or they would have lost. It states that they were 'countered by Tau Manta Missile Destroyers' - this does not imply that the Tau were completely unprepared or unable to deal with Titans, or that they had to utilise any special equipment or whatnot... the thread asked how the Tau would deal with it, people argued that the Tau cannot, the Damocles Gulf fluff answers the question. What more is there to say, let alone be very pointedly rude about?

Rude? Not really. Read the thread or explain yourself better. The Damocles Crusade has been discussed quite a bit this thread, you'd have known that if you had read the thread past the OP. And no, people do not only say 'the tau got whooped by Titans', but again, reading would have told you otherwise.
Where does it state the Titans were countered by 'Tau Manta missile Destroyers'?
You're clearly ignoring pretty much everything discussed so far in favor of this conclusion which has very little basis of fact. They've downed two Titans. Well done. Two Warhounds no less. Good luck with anything larger.

Beregond wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

Beregond wrote:Does no one here remember the Damocles Crusade? Tau fought Titans there, and they fought the Imperials to a standstill... page 14 of Codex: Tau Empire, trying to find my old codex 'cause I think that had more in it

Edit: and this is some 200+ years before the Taros campaign...

Really? Aw, we all completely forgot about the Damocles Crusade! I mean, I can't believe no one has mentioned at all over these 8 pages that you obviously didn't bother to read.
Good job, you've added nothing to the discussion because you haven't even bothered to read the first page.

Read most (or all, I dunno, not exactly keeping count) of them, thank you very much, although not all today. There's no need to be so rude about it. However, all people mention is that the Tau 'got whooped by Titans' during that crusade. Clearly not the case, or they would have lost. It states that they were 'countered by Tau Manta Missile Destroyers' - this does not imply that the Tau were completely unprepared or unable to deal with Titans, or that they had to utilise any special equipment or whatnot... the thread asked how the Tau would deal with it, people argued that the Tau cannot, the Damocles Gulf fluff answers the question. What more is there to say, let alone be very pointedly rude about?

I'm pretty sure nobody who you should be taking seriously said that the Tau 'got whooped by Titans during that Crusade'. I'm pretty sure what the more knowledgeable people said is 'that it is one of two instances where the Tau have been documented facing Titans'.
And in both instances, they have only faced Warhound Titans--which they had to bring ridiculously overwhelming power to bear, to counter said Warhounds.

iproxtaco wrote:Rude? Not really. Read the thread or explain yourself better. The Damocles Crusade has been discussed quite a bit this thread, you'd have known that if you had read the thread past the OP. And no, people do not only say 'the tau got whooped by Titans', but again, reading would have told you otherwise.
Where odes it state the Titans were countered by 'Tau Manta missile Destroyers'?
You're clearly ignoring pretty much everything discussed so far in favor of this conclusion which has very little basis of fact. They've downed two Titans. Well done. Two Warhounds no less. Good luck with anything larger.

Rude? Very. You are assuming I didn't 'bother' reading, implying I am lazy, and your general manner is rather aggressive. But no matter. As for explaining myself better, yes I'll admit I could easily have done if I had my codex with me at the time, which I did not. Ergo I had no reference material, and was specifically looking for it to clarify what I was saying.

Oh and I could grab a direct quote off the first page literally saying that, but I wont because it's a matter of opinion, nothing more. And as Kanluwen said, it's no one I should be taking seriously but that doesn't mean it wasn't said.

Codex: Tau (2001, 3rd edition codex) page 60 line 12. Mantas were used to combat Titans, which is plural. The only thing it doesn't directly say is that they killed X number of Titans there, or the class of Titan involved.

Edit: I'll admit though, I don't particularly care for these sorts of discussions... and honestly couldn't tell you why I posted in this one in the first place so I'm out. Take care, folks.

Beregond wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Rude? Not really. Read the thread or explain yourself better. The Damocles Crusade has been discussed quite a bit this thread, you'd have known that if you had read the thread past the OP. And no, people do not only say 'the tau got whooped by Titans', but again, reading would have told you otherwise.
Where odes it state the Titans were countered by 'Tau Manta missile Destroyers'?
You're clearly ignoring pretty much everything discussed so far in favor of this conclusion which has very little basis of fact. They've downed two Titans. Well done. Two Warhounds no less. Good luck with anything larger.

Rude? Very. You are assuming I didn't 'bother' reading, implying I am lazy, and your general manner is rather aggressive. But no matter. As for explaining myself better, yes I'll admit I could easily have done if I had my codex with me at the time, which I did not. Ergo I had no reference material, and was specifically looking for it to clarify what I was saying.

Oh and I could grab a direct quote off the first page literally saying that, but I wont because it's a matter of opinion, nothing more. And as Kanluwen said, it's no one I should be taking seriously but that doesn't mean it wasn't said.

By the by: it wasn't until Dal'yth that the Tau deployed Manta Missile Destroyers. Prior to Dal'yth, it's feasible since the Imperium was winning the Crusade up to that point that KamikazeCanuck's point of "the Tau being stomped by Titans" is valid.

You have to remember though that Titans don't just wander the battlefield by themselves. They're deployed for maximum psychological effect. The men of the Imperial Guard view the Titans as towering avatars of war. The presence of Titans on the field gives the men of the Guard a huge morale boost.

Codex: Tau (2001, 3rd edition codex) page 60 line 12. Mantas were used to combat Titans, which is plural. The only thing it doesn't directly say is that they killed X number of Titans there, or the class of Titan involved.

And it looks like, if "Savage Scars" is to be trusted, that Andy Hoare has retconned that into being Skyrays and Markerlights destroying the one Warhound Titan lost in the engagement at Gel'bryn.

Beregond wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Rude? Not really. Read the thread or explain yourself better. The Damocles Crusade has been discussed quite a bit this thread, you'd have known that if you had read the thread past the OP. And no, people do not only say 'the tau got whooped by Titans', but again, reading would have told you otherwise.
Where odes it state the Titans were countered by 'Tau Manta missile Destroyers'?
You're clearly ignoring pretty much everything discussed so far in favor of this conclusion which has very little basis of fact. They've downed two Titans. Well done. Two Warhounds no less. Good luck with anything larger.

Rude? Very. You are assuming I didn't 'bother' reading, implying I am lazy, and your general manner is rather aggressive. But no matter. As for explaining myself better, yes I'll admit I could easily have done if I had my codex with me at the time, which I did not. Ergo I had no reference material, and was specifically looking for it to clarify what I was saying.

Well that's not at all what you did. You swept in without reading anything and made some broad statement that didn't really have any detail at all. If you wanted clarification, then ask for it.

Oh and I could grab a direct quote off the first page literally saying that, but I wont because it's a matter of opinion, nothing more. And as Kanluwen said, it's no one I should be taking seriously but that doesn't mean it wasn't said.

You don't have your codex, but you could grab that exact quote? I'll believe it when I see it. And no, Coa shouldn't be taken seriously. Ever.

Codex: Tau (2001, 3rd edition codex) page 60 line 12. Mantas were used to combat Titans, which is plural. The only thing it doesn't directly say is that they killed X number of Titans there, or the class of Titan involved.

Right, we know that, it's kind of been covered a few times. There's no 'directly' about it. Class and numbers weren't alluded to at all, simply that there were more than one. Certainly no numbers of defeated Titans, or even that they widely successful. We know that there were Warhound Titans at Da'Lyth, none were downed out of Savage Scars.

iproxtaco wrote:Well that's not at all what you did. You swept in without reading anything and made some broad statement that didn't really have any detail at all. If you wanted clarification, then ask for it.

And this is why I call you rude. You tell me I have not bothered reading, you tell me I made a broad statement, you assume I 'wanted' clarification when I said I was 'getting' clarification. All I can say is damn it my friend, read before you post, and I know what I have done a lot better than you do. And THAT is why I don't take part in these 'discussions'.

My apologies for the off-topic post, but some things I feel just need to be said. I've contributed all I want to at this point anyway.

Kanluwen wrote:And it looks like, if "Savage Scars" is to be trusted, that Andy Hoare has retconned that into being Skyrays and Markerlights destroying the one Warhound Titan lost in the engagement at Gel'bryn.

A warhound is not a Battle Titan.The thread was about battle titans from name.A bunch of Seeker missiles against a Warhound is not valid.

BeefCakeSoup wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

BeefCakeSoup wrote:Once again, Imperial fanboys gettin all worked up because the Tau dunk on them.

Maybe someday the Imperium will have, you know, like 1 conquered Tau world to brag about, that wasn't just a world they lost then reclaimed. Until then, I think the Tau are sitting pretty fine on the multiple SYSTEMS they have stolen from the terribaddies known as the Imperium.

Whats better is that there are Marines in Dreadnoughts older then the Tau race!

As for the OP, The Tau have wiped out a Titan before, believe it was a warhound on Taros, though I want to say during the DGC they killed one aswell.

At any rate, the Tau didn't really have to do anything substantial to bring the Titan down. A retro-fitted Tiger Shark isn't a galaxy shattering innovation, well, maybe to the Imperial witch doctors it is, but to the Tau it's simply putting piece "a" into slot "a" and killing a baddie. What's alarming, is that such a young race fought such an old race and found a way to smash the face off some of their best technology with relative ease. That is, unless someone wants to explain the difficulty in pressing the red button in a cockpit of a fighter bomber.

Lol. Do you always go on these satirical rants when you feel your faction is threatened by opposing fans? I find you to be massively hypocritical in nearly every thread you post in. First you start out ok, probably some at least reasoned comment, about the Tau obviously, but it always degenerates into this unbridled fanboy ranting. Face it, your faction is small and pointless, its victories are small and insignificant, no matter how you paint it. The victories of the Hrud and other such minor threats exceed that of the Tau. Have fun feebly frog hopping your way to eventual destruction.

A rant?

Unbridled fanboy ranting?

Did I say something false? If so I'll recant, until then hater... you just keep hatin!

A few things actually. The Imperium have conquered Tau worlds. The ones during the Damocles Gulf Crusade. And don't say "aw but they were re-taken" because that would conflict with your argument.
Systems. Source would be great. A few worlds taken here and there. A fair number have been re-taken, but entire systems is dubious.
Wiped out is a fairly strong phrase to use. Ignoring that it was the weakest Titan class, it wasn't destroyed. It was downed.
Fitting one of your vessels with huge guns seen on much larger flyers seems like a pretty desperate move.
It seems that your over-reaching theme is trying to over-exaggerate everything the Tau do. They've taken some Imperial worlds, oh no! It's like there's never ever been other threats that have done so much more. They downed a Titan, oh no! It's like no other force have ever done something so amazingly insignificant.
My main point was that you always seem to degenerate to fanboy rants when you have literally nothing else to add in opposition to the point.

I'm pretty sure the Tau use the Nicassar to handle the larger Titans....

A kabal of them tear one apart with their psychic ability...

They are rumoured to be the most powerful psychic race in the galaxy.

Deadshot wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:And it looks like, if "Savage Scars" is to be trusted, that Andy Hoare has retconned that into being Skyrays and Markerlights destroying the one Warhound Titan lost in the engagement at Gel'bryn.

A warhound is not a Battle Titan.The thread was about battle titans from name.A bunch of Seeker missiles against a Warhound is not valid.

Thank you Deadshot for correcting my error. Whatever would I do without you here to save me?

That's the point I've been trying to make for a year or so now. We have absolutely nothing,aside from "Savage Scars", that says the Tau Empire has faced anything bigger than a Warhound.

Medium of Death wrote:I'm pretty sure the Tau use the Nicassar to handle the larger Titans....

A kabal of them tear one apart with their psychic ability...

They are rumoured to be the most powerful psychic race in the galaxy.

Spoiler:

Posting gak in the background forums is easy and this topic is getting stale.

Nissacar are woefully unsuitable for ground combat. They're kept away from the Imperium and are used as scouts and explorers.

You missed the point of my post.

It's in the spoiler tag.

I saw it. It was mainly to stop having to reply to someone else who seriously think it would be a good idea.

Kanluwen wrote:

Deadshot wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:And it looks like, if "Savage Scars" is to be trusted, that Andy Hoare has retconned that into being Skyrays and Markerlights destroying the one Warhound Titan lost in the engagement at Gel'bryn.

A warhound is not a Battle Titan.The thread was about battle titans from name.A bunch of Seeker missiles against a Warhound is not valid.

Thank you Deadshot for correcting my error. Whatever would I do without you here to save me?

That's the point I've been trying to make for a year or so now. We have absolutely nothing,aside from "Savage Scars", that says the Tau Empire has faced anything bigger than a Warhound.

No need for sarcasm.I own sarcasm and didn't give you permission to use it .

Ther fact uis that at the moment,they can't take down anything bigger.The reaver is twice as durable as the Warhound.The QWarlord is 3 times more durable,the Emperor is 4 times.

A warhound is only allowed in units of up to 2 Titans.In the Heresy,the Traitor Titan Legions allowed them to roam in squad sized units.Ever since they can only go off in groups of 2.Battle Titans roam about in squad sized battle forces,consisting of a mixture of Warlords and Reavers,somtimes an Emperor is thrown in for good measure.The Tau cannot win this battle.

And for those who say a Railgun can out range a Titan's guns,the shortest ranged weapon on a Titan is the Plasma Blastgun or Destructor,firing in Rapid mode.The railgun has the same range as this.

chaos0xomega wrote:

You're making stuff up now. Nothing in the definition of a Mass Driver precludes the possibility of rails.

Yes, it does. Mass Drivers use coils that ARE ROUND/spiraled, because it is a huge COIL GUN.

Wikipedia wrote:Coilguns are distinct from railguns, which pass a large current through the projectile or sabot via sliding contacts. Coilguns and railguns also operate on different principles

Mass drivers are upscaled coil guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil_gun

im2randomghgh wrote:
Yes, it does. Mass Drivers use coils that ARE ROUND/spiraled, because it is a huge COIL GUN.


Mass drivers are upscaled coil guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil_gun

Ok, you've been going on about the distinction between the varieties of electromagnetic kinetic weapons for a couple pages now. I gotta say; it just plain isn't that important. Yes, coilguns and railguns are different things, technically; but they work by the same principle, and have the same effect, ie powering up magnets to exert force on a projectile and fire it at high velocity.

So, for the purposes of discussing the fiction associated with a far-future sci-fi game where the Red Army in space with lasers is fighting against blue-skinned anime aliens, they're close enough to the same as to make no difference.

On topic; Of course Tau can destroy Battle Titans, if they put enough effort towards that goal. I would, however, argue that a significant Titan deployment would cost the Tau an inordinate amount of effort and casualties to counter. Titans represent a truly massive concentration of firepower in a relatively small space, allowing the Imperium to bring to bear the brute force of a massive armored formation on a single discrete point and achieve decisive breakthroughs. Either the Tau would have to dramatically concentrate their forces to neutralize them, and thus voluntarily engage the IG on their own terms, or they would be placed in the very awkward tactical situation of having a massively powerful enemy force punch through the front lines and rampage in their rear areas. Either way, Battle Titans are (IMO) a win for the Imperium against the Tau.

TBH i don't even remember why I started arguing

Anyways, yeah, Tau are able to kill titans, they are just not especially good at it, because the only way infantry can really kill titans is boarding, and that is not exactly a Tau specialty.

There have a few ideas on dealing the bigger things. Before this thread dies the slow death. lets recap.

1. They don't fight it. Run away and deal with it when it's not on. Like in transport.

2. Ship strikes. Icefire misses or rail gun battery from space born weapons.

3. Boarding and infiltration. Everything is weaker on the inside, but the large titans are still guarded. It would be hard.

4. Something new. The tau are always improving there tech so they could build something new and big to kill titans. Good luck guessing what it will be.

An infantry platoon,theorectically,could bring down void shields with a truly, and I mean truly, massive amount of shots, all firing on the same target spot.That is of coarseif they don't get killed by the titan's guns or the Titan's ability to crush them phisically.however,the would not be able to scratch the paint from most Titans.

Outside of Orbital Bombardments,if they even do that,then defeating a Titan Legion is impossible without dedicated Titan killers,like the Imperial Shadowsword,or other Titans.
The tau Empire's best bet would be to steal some Titan Warp Missiles,which phase through the Immaterium to avoid Void Shields,coupled with lots of arial support.

iproxtaco wrote:

Beregond wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

Beregond wrote:Does no one here remember the Damocles Crusade? Tau fought Titans there, and they fought the Imperials to a standstill... page 14 of Codex: Tau Empire, trying to find my old codex 'cause I think that had more in it

Edit: and this is some 200+ years before the Taros campaign...

Really? Aw, we all completely forgot about the Damocles Crusade! I mean, I can't believe no one has mentioned at all over these 8 pages that you obviously didn't bother to read.
Good job, you've added nothing to the discussion because you haven't even bothered to read the first page.

Read most (or all, I dunno, not exactly keeping count) of them, thank you very much, although not all today. There's no need to be so rude about it. However, all people mention is that the Tau 'got whooped by Titans' during that crusade. Clearly not the case, or they would have lost. It states that they were 'countered by Tau Manta Missile Destroyers' - this does not imply that the Tau were completely unprepared or unable to deal with Titans, or that they had to utilise any special equipment or whatnot... the thread asked how the Tau would deal with it, people argued that the Tau cannot, the Damocles Gulf fluff answers the question. What more is there to say, let alone be very pointedly rude about?

Rude? Not really. Read the thread or explain yourself better. The Damocles Crusade has been discussed quite a bit this thread, you'd have known that if you had read the thread past the OP. And no, people do not only say 'the tau got whooped by Titans', but again, reading would have told you otherwise.
Where does it state the Titans were countered by 'Tau Manta missile Destroyers'?
You're clearly ignoring pretty much everything discussed so far in favor of this conclusion which has very little basis of fact. They've downed two Titans. Well done. Two Warhounds no less. Good luck with anything larger.

Rude? Ya Rly.

The smell of angry nerdsweat is palpable over here. Nurgle is pleased.