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-Loki- wrote:Man, the cast was so bad it even changed Leliths gender!

To be fair, Lelith isn't the most feminine model around.

I have 10 incubi in finecast, both boxes klaives + arms moulds slipped so fingers over lap and handles and blades don't line up, also there are a couple of models that have uneven/rough surfaces and one body that was completely unusable (good job i only use 9 incubi) but also the box included a couple of flawless bodies

filbert wrote:So given that reports of poor quality and miscast Finecast products are still appearing, does this scotch GW's assertion that the quality would improve over time, I wonder?

If I had to hazard a guess, it might simply be that the ones that are "still appearing" never went anywhere in the first place. It might be they had been packaged and distributed before the QA went into effect or any number of factors.

It's why batch numbers are important to figure out, I think.

I have only picked up one FInecast so far, and it was great. The broodlord's body practically fell right off the sprue frame with almost no evidence of having ever been on it at all. The rest of the pieces clipped off just fine, a little cleaning , and they were perfect. It took a total of about 10 minutes to assemble the model.

From the new material and packaging, it is easier to identify screwups and avoid buying them. The new material makes modelling soooo much easier than white metal. If you do end up getting one anyway, call GW. So there are two ways that you can avoid the Finecast whining!

Gorechild wrote:I ordered some finecast online at the start of the week (2 boxes of wracks and a succubus) and when I opened them, 8 out of the 11 models were miscast. 2 of the 3 that werent had one or two little bubbles in, but were usable.

The Succubus had all her chin and half her neck missing and her agoniser and other weapon also had holes in. All 10 Wracks had insane amounts of flash on 5 of them (2x top left, top right and 2x bottom left in picture) it was as thick as their swords in places and impossible to remove without utterly destroying the detail. Half of these also had several (not huge, but noticable) bubbles in, as did two others. Two were okay but thats 82% fail, for a ~£75 order.

*snip*

My previous experience of fine cast (a haemonculus and Urien) were fine, but needless to say GW got a complaint from me this time. I sent an email on wednesday and am yet to have a reply. Not impressed.....

Got my replacements at the end of last week. They were much better than the first lot, but quite a lot of them were still miscast. the replacement Succubus was miscast in the exact same places as the first one, so I'm still unable to make a complete one of her. I've managed to cobble together 10 Wracks out of the 4 boxes though and have sent all the miscast ones back. An improvement, but still what you'd expect for the price, from a company that reckons itself the porshe of the minature world.

filbert wrote:So given that reports of poor quality and miscast Finecast products are still appearing, does this scotch GW's assertion that the quality would improve over time, I wonder?

That is to say, are GW to right to suggest that it is a temporary QA problem rather than inherent flaws in the process? Or is it still to early to make that call? Does anyone here have manufacturing experience and give a judgement on how long one would expect a new line and process to 'shake out' and be consistent?

This is why batch numbers are important when you are reporting this here.

Gorechild wrote:from a company that reckons itself the porshe of the minature world.

Indeed. GW has quite a bit to answer for...


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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:From the new material and packaging, it is easier to identify screwups and avoid buying them.

Oh, I must dispute this...

The new packaging is clear on one side... meaning you may miss flaws which are on the other side of the sprue but you cannot see them yet...

I recently worked through a new box of eldar rangers.
I should have taken photos:
2 of them were like Han Solo frozen in Carbonite.
All of the long rifles were flawed: bubbled and needing GS reinforcement / resculpting. Three of them needed a LOT of work to get pointed in the right direction; one of the rifle barrels was almost 90' out and even after almost an hour of gentle hot water and smoothing, it is still not straight.
I found a lot of the finer details on the cloak had spilled onto the hands and weapons etc. Basically a nightmare.
Luckily it seems only one of them had any major slippage in the mould, and was easy enough to hide on this particular models (GS extension of cloak).

Well the thing I dislike apart from the countless problems that appear is the weight of the model; I only have a few metal models, and the feel of those is faaar better than that of finecast.
I just put some models on a scale:
metal snikrot: 60g
finecast kff mek: 9g

so now my important models dont feel important any more, they are just not heavy enough.

I wonder if anyone of you has this feeling...

mal wrote:I recently worked through a new box of eldar rangers.
I should have taken photos:
2 of them were like Han Solo frozen in Carbonite.
All of the long rifles were flawed: bubbled and needing GS reinforcement / resculpting. Three of them needed a LOT of work to get pointed in the right direction; one of the rifle barrels was almost 90' out and even after almost an hour of gentle hot water and smoothing, it is still not straight.
I found a lot of the finer details on the cloak had spilled onto the hands and weapons etc. Basically a nightmare.
Luckily it seems only one of them had any major slippage in the mould, and was easy enough to hide on this particular models (GS extension of cloak).

Which is why I kept my metal rangers

Received my Vlad Von Carstein today.

The overall cast is okay, but he's missing his entire hand and the 'skullblasting' bit for his cloak. Phoned them up and have a new one on the way. Will post photos later.

Also, I forgot to mention it was Batch # 000023

Only one FC so far: SM Librarian with Termie armor. It was extremely difficult to get rid of all the cling-on stuff (whatever you call it) without harming the details.

I finally opened my finecast Cockatrice, and when I did I was impressed, there is a fair amount of venting bits on the tail that cleaned up pretty quickly. The details on the wings is rather amazing. I just need to decide how to paint it before I get it all put together.

Acardia wrote:I finally opened my finecast Cockatrice, and when I did I was impressed, there is a fair amount of venting bits on the tail that cleaned up pretty quickly. The details on the wings is rather amazing. I just need to decide how to paint it before I get it all put together.

There's something about Cockatrice's seeming to have less faults than other models, maybe the mould has been better produced/fitted.

I only have one finecast model at the moment, the Dark Eldar Archon, which I picked up on release day, no flaws except for the questionable location GW decided to inject the resin from , which made some of the mold lines kind of annoying to get rid off (really, you pick the crevice of the model's cloak? Intelligent guys, real intelligent...)

Got my first finecast today. Prince Apophas, the TK scarab fella. The frame interior is solid flash. I will attempt to cut him out but I am not optimistic about it.

The frame interior being filled with flash isn't a bad sign unless it's really thick. If it's like, tissue paper thin, it'll just break away and not even leave a mold line. One of my Zoanthropes was like that.

My cockatrice (purchased via preorder) has holes where the back knobs should be, and bubble holes in the wing attachment muscles, leaving a hole in the front of the wing where it attaches to the body. One part of one leg looked perfect save a bit of flash. When I delicately cut it off with modeling knife, it collapsed inward as a bubble.

Note I didn't notice many of these flaws until painting or really getting in there tight to clean it up. The model is so busy with textures that the miscasts are hard to see. I used half-hardened paint scum to fill and resculpt the flaws, but the back knobs didn't work well. I bet once these folks with "perfect" cockatrices really get in there to paint every single scale or feather like I did, they will start to see issues and flaws.... or they won't notice so won't care. But this poor quality is unacceptable to me.

This cockatrice was my latest fincast purchase, and will be my last unless things seriously change.

I was debating getting a great taurus, but the one I saw in progress in the store had huge bubbles in the front legs - approx 1 cm x 0.5 cm* in the tops of both front legs. Same for the Lammasu. Not buying either now!

* (yeah, I'm american, but also a scientist. I have used metric for many years now. )

Only bought a finecast Ghazzy, and no flaws at all.

Very happy with the one I've purchased.

Got sauron, he's perfect. Gil gilad and elrond blister has a ripped base for elrond, and gil-gilad's spear was bent almost at right angles when I got the sprue open.

I'm a dumbass so I bought a haemonculus. I wasn't going to after being disappointed with the incubi and claimed I wouldn't be buying Finecast again, but the haemonculus model I got wasn't too bad actually. The only problems I have are bubbles under his "labcoat" where they can't be seen, and some bubbles on the backs of his fingers which might be kinda trick to fill...the fingers look really brittle and I just know I'm going to break them.

Still gotta say though that the other models I browsed weren't too impressive. They had one of the "new" Lilith models with all the parts on one sprue instead of two, and it still didn't look good enough to buy...hell, there was a big chunk of resin right on her face.

chaos lord,had few flaws :(


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Kirbinator wrote:

-Loki- wrote:Man, the cast was so bad it even changed Leliths gender!

To be fair, Lelith isn't the most feminine model around.

guinness

well, i made a fairly large purchase recently for my Haemonculi coven, and found several flaws...I was quite dissapointed.

I purchased 2 boxes of wracks
2 Haemonculi
4 Grotesques

all in all i had 3 wracks with mismolded faces

both haemonculi have air bubbles on their vials for their spine packs and flesh gauntlets

and ALL the grotesques had major air bubbles on their abdomens, vials, and tubes were mis cast. I can supply pics, but my home comp is in the shop for repairs so i cannot post outside of work.

I will be contacting GW about this...how should I approach it ? with an email with pics, or just a phone call? I have all of their batch codes.

I called them, myself. An e-mail with pics sounds like a good idea too, but I'm not sure if they even read their e-mail. I imagine it all goes to a junk folder which gets emptied out on a daily basis...X) if someone can prove me wrong please do.

If anyone is actually tracking batch numbers. I have an Inquisitor Coteaz batch code 874363.

The Lord Commissar I have is batch code 000000.

Both have no discernible problem.

Just got the farseer and warlocks box. Models were awesome. Flash cleaned off with finger nails.

Only problem was one slotta was way too fat for the base so I had to shave it down.

Sorry I tossed the package, no batch number.

I just bought a generic Chaos Lord for WHFB and I was pleased to find no errors in the cast.

I'm enjoying the material though, easy to cut apart and such makes converting a dream. I'll post pics to follow soon.

Gymnogyps wrote:I bet once these folks with "perfect" cockatrices really get in there to paint every single scale or feather like I did, they will start to see issues and flaws....

Mine is now fully painted apart from the tail, although I have painted the skulls in the centre. It's all been fine and in all the checks that I made on the tail I haven't spotted anything but I'm planning on finishing it off tomorrow so will post again then.

Maybe you got unlucky, I certain that there isn't a model that hasn't got at least a few off castings. Either that or we all just got lucky.

Can more of you take pics of your miss casts. I have only seen a few and this really lends validity to what you are saying. We all have digital cameras or know of someone who does. Posting pics takes about as much time as writting a long complaint here and with this subject a pic is worth a thousand words.l



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I also wonder ... does GW save cash on shipping finegast because it is so much lighter than a metal mini. If so they are really making more on these than they used to.

sennacherib wrote:I also wonder ... does GW save cash on shipping finegast because it is so much lighter than a metal mini. If so they are really making more on these than they used to.

I wonder if having all the air bubbles makes them lighter Plus, GW can use the material they should have used to fill in a mold completely to make another 90% filled model (Make 9 miscasts, get one free!)

Bought my first batch of finecast today.... SM Chaplain with Jump Pack, Inquistor Cotaez and a box of Sternguard Veterans... the Chaplain and Inquistor were both flawless and I was astounded by the detail... The Sternguards... well had a lot of issues, so much so, that the store had to open an additional 2 boxes of them to make a complete flawless set to give me