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After searching through various sources I have come to the conclusion that if I want a model of Vulkan, I will have to make him myself. () So, here's my idea...

1) Buy the Tyrus model.

2) Cut off the Inquisition symbol, bolter, and wrist blade (not to mention other various bits and bobs)
3) Put a Giant Hammer where the bolter was, put a Flamer under the Power Fist/Claw, and put a Melta on top of it, add He-Stan's flaming halo, and Drake skin cloaks and such where needed.
4) Add any on as many Salamander bits as I can (Read: Own. )
5) Paint him Green with Black highlights, and paint his face Onyx/Pitch Black with white and grey hair.

What do you guys think?

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I could be mistaken, but I think that mini is 54mm, which as you can work out is twice the size of a 28mm mini, so thats about dread size. I recently saw a thraka conversion using arms from that range, and they even looked a little too big on him, so I am not whether it could work, sorry for scuttling your idea so quickly!

According to the Horus Heresy books, the Primarchs were about another half as tall as Space Marines while not wearing armour, so that's the scale of model you'd want for one.

Yea that model is way to big even for a primach, also Vulkan isn't a primach

It could work. Might be a tad too big though unless you are using TS marines for the rest of your force.

@winnertakesall is right i think , its a larger scale being from the Inquisitor game, might make your proportions for the cape etc a bit small, less you use some green stuff to add to them, could always give it a go and see how it looks

Good luck!

T-M

Ah, from what I've read Primarchs can be up to twice the hight of a Space Marine, and in my opinion Vulkan would be one of the taller ones.

theonetyrant wrote:Yea that model is way to big even for a primach, also Vulkan isn't a primach

Yes he is!

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Yes he is!

Indeed.

The fluff I have seen states that Primachs were as big to SM as SM were to people.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Yes he is!

Indeed.

The fluff I have seen states that Primachs were as big to SM as SM were to people.

Well, Humans average at about 5'10 and Space Marines are around Seven feet, therefore a Primarch is twice the height of a Space Marine.

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Yes he is!

Indeed.

The fluff I have seen states that Primachs were as big to SM as SM were to people.

Well, Humans average at about 5'10 and Space Marines are around Seven feet, therefore a Primarch is twice the height of a Space Marine.

... 6ft to 7ft (which is the old fluff height for the minimum size of SM) is 1 ft, so a primarch would thus be 8ft, not 14ft.

In the newer fluff SM are about 9ft tall, so 6ft to 9ft is a 3ft difference, thus a primarch would be 12ft high, not 18ft...

Vulkan is a Primarch. Confusingly, Vulkan He'stan is not, but is the current Salamanders chapter master.

Flinty wrote:Vulkan is a Primarch. Confusingly, Vulkan He'stan is not, but is the current Salamanders chapter master.

Tu'shan is the Chapter Master of the Salamanders. He'stan was formally the captain of the Salamanders 3rd Company, now in a unique position of hunting down all the relics of the primarch in a hope to get him to return.

On topic however, the 54mm models are indeed far to big to represent a primarch, they're bigger than a trygon from what I've seen.

Flinty wrote:Vulkan is a Primarch. Confusingly, Vulkan He'stan is not, but is the current Salamanders chapter master.

Wrong, He'stan is the Forgefather of the Salamanders, not the Chapter master, He has nothing to do with the running of the chapter whatsoever, he just runs about looking for relics. Don't know the name of their Chapter Master though.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Yes he is!

Indeed.

The fluff I have seen states that Primachs were as big to SM as SM were to people.

Well, Humans average at about 5'10 and Space Marines are around Seven feet, therefore a Primarch is twice the height of a Space Marine.

... 6ft to 7ft (which is the old fluff height for the minimum size of SM) is 1 ft, so a primarch would thus be 8ft, not 14ft.

In the newer fluff SM are about 9ft tall, so 6ft to 9ft is a 3ft difference, thus a primarch would be 12ft high, not 18ft...

On average a Human is around 5 feet tall. Salamanders are about 10 feet tall. Therefore, if Primarchs are to a Space Marine as a Space Marine is to Humans, Vulkan would be about twice the size of a Space Marine. Which, in turn, means the Inquisitor model would fit the bill.

Now, what do you guys think of the actual converting and such? Any tips or ideas?

ok as i have this model ive measured a tactical marine and a truescale marine and a dreadnaught against him to see the size and he just looks huge .
bear in mind marines are 7-8ft tall and primarchs anything from 8-10ft tall this chap would be almost 15-16ft tall bigger than a dreadnaught and its not just the hight but the whole body would be out of proportion the only way you could get it to look passable is to model it to look like termi armour and use a helmet rather thamn the meter wide head it comes with ..

Have to agree with CURNOW.

Marines being around 8 feet tall and Primarchs coming in at 10 to 12 feet tall, with a few outliers like Magnus being even taller than that...

CURNOW wrote:ok as i have this model ive measured a tactical marine and a truescale marine and a dreadnaught against him to see the size and he just looks huge .
bear in mind marines are 7-8ft tall and primarchs anything from 8-10ft tall this chap would be almost 15-16ft tall bigger than a dreadnaught and its not just the hight but the whole body would be out of proportion the only way you could get it to look passable is to model it to look like termi armour and use a helmet rather thamn the meter wide head it comes with ..

Is the Dreadnought truescale?

A Primarch is about a foot, maybe two feet, taller than space marines. That model will not work at all.

On the other hand.. Its your idea, its your mini. I say go for it. Giant Hammer, Large claw, heavy flamer, melta gun.. looks like you got a "IronClad" dread on your hand. Base on 60mm base and now you an even use it in game. Using IronClad Dread rules. (Give him a helmet though)

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:
On average a Human is around 5 feet tall.

Human...teenager? 5 feet is pretty damn small for an adult!

Screw the size. Heck, we all know that the bigger the model the easier the conversions (most of the time.... in my experience... I think), so start with this figure, once you figure it out and make it work, then maybe start on another one except 28mm.

Yeah im not saying dont do it {hell ive used the same model for my horus in termi armour #artscale# } it just takes alot of work to make it look good :]

It's not even so much his sheer size that causes problems as his proportions; even though they were much taller than humans and even Space Marines, the Primarchs do not have the same head-torso ratio as shorter beings.

Off topic, wouldn't this model make an awesome Dreadknight?

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Is the Dreadnought truescale?

the existence of the word "truescale" suggests that most things in this game are not actually sized the way they should be. Most everything in the GW line should be a bit bigger.

Owain wrote:It's not even so much his sheer size that causes problems as his proportions; even though they were much taller than humans and even Space Marines, the Primarchs do not have the same head-torso ratio as shorter beings.

Off topic, wouldn't this model make an awesome Dreadknight?

A) That would make an awesome Dreadknight!
B) What's wrong with the proportions?

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Yes he is!

Indeed.

The fluff I have seen states that Primachs were as big to SM as SM were to people.

Well, Humans average at about 5'10 and Space Marines are around Seven feet, therefore a Primarch is twice the height of a Space Marine.

... 6ft to 7ft (which is the old fluff height for the minimum size of SM) is 1 ft, so a primarch would thus be 8ft, not 14ft.

In the newer fluff SM are about 9ft tall, so 6ft to 9ft is a 3ft difference, thus a primarch would be 12ft high, not 18ft...

Nine feet is average. Some SMs are over 10 feet.

The step up from six (a tall man, human male average is about five feet six if you count the whole world) to nine (an average SM) is +50%.

By that measure, a Primarch ought to be around 13.5 feet, and could easily reach 15 feet tall. Now you've got a Primarch who wearing armour probably is nearly triple the size of an average human.

Your 54mm model might actually be rather small to be realistic compared to a 28mm heroic IG figure.

Kilkrazy wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dawi-Marine'Va wrote:Yes he is!

Indeed.

The fluff I have seen states that Primachs were as big to SM as SM were to people.

Well, Humans average at about 5'10 and Space Marines are around Seven feet, therefore a Primarch is twice the height of a Space Marine.

... 6ft to 7ft (which is the old fluff height for the minimum size of SM) is 1 ft, so a primarch would thus be 8ft, not 14ft.

In the newer fluff SM are about 9ft tall, so 6ft to 9ft is a 3ft difference, thus a primarch would be 12ft high, not 18ft...

Nine feet is average. Some SMs are over 10 feet.

The step up from six (a tall man, human male average is about five feet six if you count the whole world) to nine (an average SM) is +50%.

By that measure, a Primarch ought to be around 13.5 feet, and could easily reach 15 feet tall. Now you've got a Primarch who wearing armour probably is nearly triple the size of an average human.

Your 54mm model might actually be rather small to be realistic compared to a 28mm heroic IG figure.

Yay! A Mod agrees! Thanks for the input and explanation, what do you think of the conversion it's self?

Some Mods agree...

Alpharius wrote:Some Mods agree...

Indeed. Now what do you think of the idea, other then it's size?

You'll want to use vehicle weapons because they are larger than the weapon carried by infantry.