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I dont know if i like them or not.

Im disapointed... It can be only that lame colors, but im very disapointed. They seens like very monopose, and legs are too short. That is clearly not what i was expecting... I think i need to see the blank figures to finish my opinion. I hope that is just a bad paintjob...

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ntin wrote:

MasterSlowPoke wrote:They painted the studio minis ultramarine? Seriously?

It is the universal color of mediocrity.

the only thing lamer than Ultramarines are dwarves in space...

Nooooo ! Dwarves in Space (TM) are quite possibly one of the coolest concepts possible from the human imagination! It is provable mathematically

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:I hope that is just a bad paintjob...

Oh please... bad paintjob? Really? The paintjobs are absolutely stunning. I think Mantic knows that they look like Ultrasmurfs, and if you haven't noticed, Mantic likes to have a bit of fun.

Go Mantic, I say, this has been well worth the wait! The sculpts are superb. Ultrasquats FTW!

ChocolateGork wrote:I dont know if i like them or not.

My thoughts exactly. I like the one posted several pages back with the multi barreled gun, but these I dunno...they are OK, but not sure if I like them enough to actually buy them.

The helmets on the far left and the second from the right are really ugly. They make everything look worse. I do like how shiny the leader looks.

I reckon they look like awesome Helghasts (spelling?). Indeed, the leader is verreh, verreh cool.

(Edited for grammar.)

For some reason, looking at them I want to scream "FOR ORZAMMAR!"

They still look like full plate Fantasy Dwarfs with a gun to me. Esp. as Fantasy Dwarfs often have guns as well. If the only difference between Mantic Fantasy and Mantic ScíFi is wheels instead of legs on the fast units, it's not worth it.

ChocolateGork wrote:The helmets on the far left and the second from the right are really ugly. They make everything look worse. I do like how shiny the leader looks.

I'm inclined to agree with you a bit. Overall I like them and will probably buy them, but they frowny-face helmet is not great.

Kroothawk wrote:They still look like full plate Fantasy Dwarfs with a gun to me. Esp. as Fantasy Dwarfs often have guns as well. If the only difference between Mantic Fantasy and Mantic ScíFi is wheels instead of legs on the fast units, it's not worth it.

That's because they are full-plate Fantasy Dwarves with guns. Just like GW Orcs are fantasy orcs in space and Space marines are knights in plate in space. I like the concept alot, but I don't think it's a realistic expecation to be looking for more than fantasy races in space from Warpath.

Pan magazines are the win. Other than that, well, it's kind of what I expected of sci-fi dwarves, with their forge mentality and all. Not sure if I like it myself, but I'd say it's exactly what they advertised.

The one thing that irks me is that they're all in the same position. Every single one. And the hero, what exactly is he doing with that hammer?

Nice troll btw Mantic, taking the Ultramarines colours down to the red cloak and all. I hope you made sure GW didn't have that template copyrighted

I think they are great because you can convert them and use them for all sorts, fancy throwing some FW Umbra ferrox Bolters on them easy. SQUATS is back man, the little guys are back.

They almost look 'beaky' : )
And isn't that Marne E.S. Calgary in the middle?

I think they look swell and have a good paint job.
As to the monopose complaints, sure glad that wasn't an issue in Black Reach.
Otherwise, everybody wouldn't complain about AOBR models being...

Oh, wait. Forget what I just said.

The reason these are mostly in the same pose is because these are not sprue-born models. These are resin plastic, and the kit itself will only have so much variation.

mwnciboo wrote:I think they are great because you can convert them and use them for all sorts, fancy throwing some FW Umbra ferrox Bolters on them easy. SQUATS is back man, the little guys are back.

That sir is a rather fine idea

I like the models, but don't care much for the palette. The guns look good.

Here's a better picture, from that brukekkenhoffenkopt or whatever german site that I can't spell is called. Much less washed-out and oversaturated than the BolS pic.



These look closer to the actual models rather than the ultrasmurf dayglow of that first pic.

I can't wait to get my hands on these and give them a proper paintjob. Going to give them ceramic white armour (all over, not half-white, half-bling-bling), finished with a nice smooth coat of gloss, black cloth and bronze guns and details (with some silvers to break things up).. I think painting the beards in a different colour really, really doesn't work, it draws the attention towards the bottom of the head rather than the eye-level. I plan on having some nice glowing orange/yellow on the eyes, heat-cannon, and heat-hammer.

As for basing, I'm thinking martian red ash, with copper nuggets scattered around to make it look like the surface of a mining planet.

Eilif wrote:That's because they are full-plate Fantasy Dwarves with guns. Just like GW Orcs are fantasy orcs in space and Space marines are knights in plate in space.

These don't look medieval to me, they are clearly modern, that's the point:

Well the squats look better all together as a squad, but I guess they've gone from blah to meh for me.

Still waiting to see what the human models are like .. someday..

^Ah! The sneaky Kommandos and Sphess Marens have infiltrated in the thread!!1!

privateer4hire wrote:They almost look 'beaky' : )

Yes, that is what people have been suggesting! It's funny (in a good way).

I rustled up a quick "damage control" photoshop job, to hopefully change a few people's opinions on these. Nothing drastic, simply changing the blues to a nice coppery red.

I've seen the unpainted models in person, they really are absolutely incredible and I think that the painting is the issue here, blue just doesn't get the "feel" of the models properly it's too cool for a race that is supposed to be all about heat and mining and metal, and ancient forged ancestor death masks worn by a race that existed billenia before humans did.

It just absolutely doesn't fit artistically with the vision that the concept artist had in mind and is practically the equivalent of painting Chaos Dwarves blue.

Will get the rest of the squad done shortly, but here's the leader for now:

I like them, personally. I like it that Mantic have clearly chosen their own aesthetic whilst still keeping it broadly in touch with the 40K feel. Lets be honest, the folks at Mantic aren't idiots; they know full well the vast majority of their sci-fi sales will be used for 40K, hence they try and keep it on safe, 'familiar' ground to maximise sales.

scarletsquig wrote:Here's a better picture, from that brukekkenhoffenkopt or whatever german site that I can't spell is called. Much less washed-out and oversaturated than the BolS pic.

These look closer to the actual models rather than the ultrasmurf dayglow of that first pic.

Very nice! Now the "frowny faces" look like regular mouth openings.

scarletsquig wrote:I rustled up a quick "damage control" photoshop job...
...It just absolutely doesn't fit artistically with the vision that the concept artist had in mind and is practically the equivalent of painting Chaos Dwarves blue.

Will get the rest of the squad done shortly, but here's the leader for now:

Well done, amazing how nice these, or any figures for that matter, look when not painted like Ultramarines!

scarletsquig wrote:I've seen the unpainted models in person, they really are absolutely incredible and I think that the painting is the issue here, blue just doesn't get the "feel" of the models properly it's too cool for a race that is supposed to be all about heat and mining and metal, and ancient forged ancestor death masks worn by a race that existed billenia before humans did.

It still looks like a Squat knock-off. Or an Ewok in armour. I don't understand how you can describe this mini as 'absolutely incredible'. The troops look better, but their guns are copied from the artwork Paul Bonner did for RT.

Whole squad sorted!

wow, those in red look amazing. i really want to see what the orx shooters and cqc guys look like. i really want to buy that 270$ deal. im just waiting to see what the models look like.

scarletsquig wrote:Whole squad sorted!

Ok, look what i said? The blue dont suit dwarves very well... But i understand the joke behind it.

The recolor show minis that i Want, the different angles on gunners show me their legs, and they look incredible...

The leader is strange, i dont like him, but i think it is just the pose.

The line have future on my wallet

PS: i dont expressed myself very well up there, i dont think the paintjob is bad in the quality zone, they are superb painted. My problem there was the pallet of colors, wich was solved replacing the blue ^^

PS2: they do look sci-fi, dwarves have a different society, wich dont change to much along generations, so, stethic dont change to much from one generation to another. New gots pretty similar to old in this situation. Claiming they look like "dwarves in full plate with guns" is like saying "grey knights are like fantasy knights with bright swords/lances". They are, and that is their charm...

PS3: the orkz from GW are built around 2 ideias: mad max and modern "unnoficial" armies (jungle rebels). And they look exatcly like green mad max thugs. Oh, and you pointed the komandos pic, wich is a clearly joke with Rambo, Predator and other "jungle US officers" (jungle special forces).

filbert wrote:I like them, personally. I like it that Mantic have clearly chosen their own aesthetic whilst still keeping it broadly in touch with the 40K feel. Lets be honest, the folks at Mantic aren't idiots; they know full well the vast majority of their sci-fi sales will be used for 40K, hence they try and keep it on safe, 'familiar' ground to maximise sales.

Which is amusing coming from a company that promised that Warpath would "be like nothing you've ever seen before".

But I have seen these before. I see them all the time in 40k.

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:Ok, look what i said? The blue dont suit dwarves very well... But i understand the joke behind it.

Which is completely immature, all things considered, if it truly was a joke.

However, blues and golds have typically been associated with "good guys" in many fantastic settings. It's not simply Ultramarines or Cygnar. Look at the High Elves from Lord of the Rings--they dressed in blue robes and tabards with gold armor.

PS3: the orkz from GW are built around 2 ideas: mad max and modern "unnoficial" armies (jungle rebels). And they look exatcly like green mad max thugs. Oh, and you pointed the komandos pic, which is a clearly joke with Rambo, Predator and other "jungle US officers" (jungle special forces).

...Have you ever actually seen any of the movies you mentioned?
The only one you're right about is "Mad Max" and the Kommandos have nothing in common with "Mad Max"--but the Ork army by and large does have a very post-apocalyptic feel.

The Dark Wolf wrote:PS: i dont expressed myself very well up there, i dont think the paintjob is bad in the quality zone, they are superb painted. My problem there was the pallet of colors, wich was solved replacing the blue ^^

Ah, fair enough then. Scarletsquig's red rendition looks great, but I seem to quite like the blue/gold. Let's be honest, there's only so many colour combinations out there, and there's only so many of these that actually look good!

Kanluwen wrote:Which is completely immature, all things considered, if it truly was a joke.

You're right, it probably wasn't a joke, but if so, how could it be completely immature?

At the end of the day, most ideas and things evolve and originate from a predecessor of some sort.

Kanluwen wrote:But I have seen these before. I see them all the time in 40k.

I have never seen Forgefathers in 40k before. There were once squats. They were similar.

So Kanluwen, i think you made all my points, without understand them lol

Yeah, Komandos and Orkz have not to do, Komandos are outcasts of Orkz society, they dress weyrdly, and enjoy strange tactics... They are a joke with catachans from Apokalipse, and all those "jungle corps" movies. They are very little tied to "ork kultur" (have you ever read the codex?). Ork kultur, is mad max oriented, and only turned to that after the release of the movies (before that, they where just fantasy orcs in the spaaaace)

But hey, 40k is a bunch of obscure sci-fi references tied together (with a grim dark copy of Lord of the Rings), trying to become a "pop-culture" reference. It sooo easy to pick some people ideia and call it "copy"...