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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 04:32:29
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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I like 40k, therefore I have no interest in dropping my models and switching games to "teach GW a lesson". So, who all out there will just learn to do more with what they have, slow down buying everything, and realize that hobby purchases are not a necessity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 05:41:36
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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A thousand.
Edit: No wait, fifteen hundred.
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Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:Cue all the people saying "This is the last straw! Now I'm only going to buy a little bit every now and then!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:04:46
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Drone without a Controller
Highgate
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Why should I slow down buying stuff?
I'll just spend the same amount, into other games like Warmachine and Infinity.
The sooner people realize there are other quality games out there the less painful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:05:52
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Foxy Wildborne
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Yeah, like I was going to throw out 30.000 points of miniatures because a few kits went up by 2 quid.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:16:20
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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Ill just keep buying via ebay
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:20:11
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Well, I'm certainly not going to sell off my Grey Knights just because some models got more expensive.
But that new Ork army I was wanting has been cancelled, and the funds transferred to Dystopian Wars and Warmachine. To be honest, I'm more into steampunk stuff right now anyway, but GW effectively priced that Ork army I wanted right out of my price range.
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"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:22:42
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'll still be buying things, but I want to try and buy a bit more from discounted sites. I'll still buy some things from GW that I won't get from those sites though but all in all I'm doing this to try and keep the costs down a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:31:10
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Necrotech
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At the end of the day I didn't leave because of the price increases.
I left because the lack of updates for my favorite armies lead to me to feeling like any money I spent may not be a good investment of my hobby dollar. The increased prices just intensified that feeling.
If I had a guarantee every army would receive an update for every edition of the game (seeing how sweepingly the edition changes tend to impact the game)? I might be ok with the price increases- the 40k world and the immense customizability of GW’s plastic kits are both so cool I’d be willing to put up with a lot. I have a very limited hobby budget though, and if I buy something I need to know it’ll be seeing time on the table at my FLGS, I just can’t throw down for a huge collection of stuff that may or may not function well within each edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:48:02
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
Newcastle, NSW ,Australia
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When is this price increase going to happen ??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 06:58:27
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Lady of the Lake
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Happened on the 4th. I think for some reason we didn't get it here this year, which would be quite refreshing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 07:02:23
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Stormin' Stompa
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I will still be buying and playing, but....
The last price hike was a turning point for me. For the first time in 20+ years in this hobby I started to actively cut back on my spending habits.
No longer was my purchases motived by "Do I want this?", but rather "Can I afford this?".
The latest price hike has simply upped the likelihood of "No" being the answer to that question.
I wasn't going to stop playing at the last hike (and I'm still not there yet), but each of these excessive price hikes brings me a noticeable step closer to the end of my run with GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 07:02:30
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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NZ has not had one either, maybe they are bringing prices into line by raising it in the states and uk, we have it bad enough in this part of the world anyway
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 08:46:56
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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I think you've asked the wrong question. Its not so much "will you still play the games" rather its more like "will your buying patterns with GW change?". What do I mean? Well for me, this is my current buying pattern:
For 40k
- I scour ebay for classic RT and 2nd edition IG models to add to my growing Necromundian force (I'll still play 40K, but without the pressure to buy the "latest and greatest")
- The occasional new FW release gets bought new direct
- The occasional new GW release looks alright, but at that price, I will pass or buy 2nd hand from ebay
- SG will remain in my gaming collection and the odd purchase will be got off ebay or ebid
For fantasy
- I have recently flogged off the last of my fantasy models on ebay for a pretty penny. I now have no more fantasy rules and only the odd miniature kicking about
- I have now started buying and painting a chunk of the Banelegions minis in preperation for their upcoming skirmish game
That last point I think will chime with a lot of people here. The same money and desire to game and paint remains, just with the price of GW and the sheer amount of models needed to play their games coupled with a lot of higher quality games and miniatures coming up and available from other companies, GW looks so much less attractive. You get a lot more mileage for your quid with other companies...
To use the overused car analogy: GW likes to think itself the Porsche of the mini world. Where in reality, they are the Fords of the mini world. Mass market and mass produced. Quality generally ok, and a good chunk of gamers have at least owned a GW model or two in the past. Nothing to complain about, but then again it doesn't really inspire you as much as you hoped. However, there are so many better manufacturers out there that produced higher quality, higher detailed models and games at an equivalent price (Privateer Press, Spartan Games, Infinity, Banelegions, Sedition Wars, Kingdom Death, etc etc)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 08:58:35
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Huge Hierodule
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EBAY
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was censored by the ministry of truth |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:24:58
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am currently building a Necron army, so the price increases don't effect me much.
CCB/AB's got raised 3,- Euro, but I have three of those already and that is probably enough for me.
Triarch Stalker got raised 2,- Euro, so when I buy my second one eventually they will steal that extra 2,- I guess.
Other than that none of the Necrons got an increase, so yay.
If my Marines turn out to need one more tank I will probably make the one exception, but generally once I consider individual items/kits unreasonably priced I will just not buy those particular items anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:28:31
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Tunneling Trygon
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I'm done with 40k all together. I've moved on to Infinity and Dropzone Commander. A lot of players don't realize how flawed 40K's rules are because they are unfamiliar with other systems.
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Hive Fleet Aquarius 2-1-0
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/527774.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:29:03
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kaldor wrote:But that new Ork army I was wanting has been cancelled, and the funds transferred to Dystopian Wars and Warmachine. To be honest, I'm more into steampunk stuff right now anyway, but GW effectively priced that Ork army I wanted right out of my price range.
I don't think Orks got all that much of a raise though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:34:46
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Crazed Flagellant
Western Australia
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zedmeister wrote:I think you've asked the wrong question. Its not so much "will you still play the games" rather its more like "will your buying patterns with GW change?".
+1 on that.
With the sheer amount of unopened/unpainted models I have ( GW and other companies), I really don't need to buy anything else......unless I get an idea for a new army
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Too many models to paint - so little time
A man is only measured by the size of his feather and cod piece...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:36:34
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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TBD wrote:Kaldor wrote:But that new Ork army I was wanting has been cancelled, and the funds transferred to Dystopian Wars and Warmachine. To be honest, I'm more into steampunk stuff right now anyway, but GW effectively priced that Ork army I wanted right out of my price range.
I don't think Orks got all that much of a raise though?
Over a few models no. But it sounds like he was going to buy an entire army in which case lots of little price increases can have a huge effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:45:17
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Mighty Brass Scorpion of Khorne
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I'll chime in seeing as I never really see my point of view posted by anyone, so I'll just put it out there....
The price rise isn't going to make the slightest difference to me whatsoever. So what if my once-a-month hobby purchase is now £43 rather than £40. I guess I'll have to have one less pint over the entire month, I can't say that is too much of a sacrifice. In fact, even using the word sacrifice is too much, it makes no difference whatsoever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 09:50:24
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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40k/WHFB I'll add to those armies when I find something second hand I like. Everything I would want to add to my WHFB army will be or is finecast (and I have no faith in GW's abilities with this media). I stopped buying GW stuff new last year - and most of my "new" stuff was picked up second hand in the last 12 or so years. I don't even play 40k anymore. It got boring and I tired of all the arguments from the BA, SW and necron players. Otherwise, my 40k stuff will be repurposed for Tomorrow's War (Marines are just enhanced humans in powered armour, guard are just humans NOT in powered armour. Eldar are humans with special rules, ditto for orks, tau, etc). My 40k stuff has been used in stargrunt, for example - where it worked well. New stuff is limited to Infinity for me. But I've always had at least two games that I play going at a time - It allowed me to switch out when I got bored with something. I can't understand the "brand loyalty" mindset when it comes to gaming - you buy their stuff, they supply stuff you like, that's the extent of it. When they stop doing that, why continue to buy it? When there are soooo many other manufacturers of miniatures out there and so many other games.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 10:03:03
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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After this latest price increase, the missus has effectively begged me to stop expanding any of my armies.. which is OK, since I have over 4k marines, and the largest games I have ever played was 2k (and within that 4k is enough redundancy that I can run just about any list that I like)
About the only army her new policy hurts is my 2k of CSM, because I haven't really perfected the build, nor taken it to apocalypse levels yet.
As it's been pointed out by others: new games... I recently purchased the infinity and Hell Dorado rule books to check out those games. I am hoping that with shorter games that have smaller model counts, that she'll be able to game with me, more than just an occasional DnD game (as she was the one who got me into DnD)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 10:14:12
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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I've not bought anything from GW for well over a year and don't plan to either. Sold off the majority of my armies to keep a couple with which I still occasionally play.
My hobby money has gone into other games systems and companies and looks set to carry on that way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 10:33:35
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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I may hope over to another game after NOVA, however I have a feeling 6th ed will reinforce my interest in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 10:39:19
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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I will still buy from GW as I like the miniatures and will just go to other sources to buy the models at a cheaper price if need be. Most IG tanks are still the same price and the chimera is only a couple of quid more expensive but as I play mostly horde guard then the infantry price increase is a problem. I will say this though: why can't they go back to a pack of 20 guardsmen?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 10:59:56
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
York, North Yorkshire, England
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Afraid to say I'm another who is in the camp of it not really effecting my purchases.
This is a one kit a month hobby for me, It takes me that long to paint one kit, to be purchasing a number of kits each month is a waste of time. I already have a bit of a backlog painting wise.
What this will change is I'll be more cautious with my purchase's, I will proxy a unit a lot before getting my hands on the kit as I don' want to buy, build and paint a unit that I do not 100% wish to use regularly. Not at the current cost.
I have also been tempted by WarmaHordes and have taken the plunge to build at least one army (trollbloods). However Kit for Kit I find the prices to be similar. I need less to start playing so that helps but I'm already too involved in a number of GW projects to scrap the lot over £2/3 quid a kit rise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 11:10:55
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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I haven't bought anything from GW for years, either direct or from discounters. Most of my wargaming expenditure goes on other things like the Plastic Soldier Company, Spartan Games, or the Perrys.
I do occationally buy GW models although they are exclusively through Ebay or forum swap shops as I can get decent, usually classic, models for a fraction of RRP.
I still have most of my old armies but I haven't even opened the cases containing my Dwarves and O&G since the release of 8th, I may as well Ebay them to be honest as I very much doubt that I will ever play fantasy again.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 11:18:28
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Macclesfield, UK
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chromedog wrote: It got boring and I tired of all the arguments from the BA, SW and necron players.
BA Player: I'm going to drink your blood
SW Player: Woof, Woof, Bark, GROWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necron Player: Analysing game move................ Game move does not compute. RULE ERROR!!! RULE ERROR!!!!!!
Thats what that looks like.
Eldar are humans with special rules, ditto for orks, tau, etc).
Eldar are Space Elves. It's just taking tolkiens creation and putting it into space. A bit like putting the Muppets in space.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 11:18:37
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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carlos13th wrote:TBD wrote:Kaldor wrote:But that new Ork army I was wanting has been cancelled, and the funds transferred to Dystopian Wars and Warmachine. To be honest, I'm more into steampunk stuff right now anyway, but GW effectively priced that Ork army I wanted right out of my price range.
I don't think Orks got all that much of a raise though?
Over a few models no. But it sounds like he was going to buy an entire army in which case lots of little price increases can have a huge effect.
Ork items that had a price increase down here (in Euros):
Ork Boyz: 50 cents
Killa Kanz: 1,-
Deff Dread : 2,- (I think)
Trukk: 3,- (this is not a very good pick atm though)
Battle Wagons, Lootas, Bikers and Nobz did not get a raise, and AoBR Deffkoptas shouldn't be affected.
So how much more could it cost really? About 15,- to 20,- maybe?
And didn't Australia & NZ not get a raise at all?
Needless to say he is free to spend his money on whatever he wants, but I just don't see how these latest increases would stop him from buying the Ork army if that was his plan before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 11:21:50
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Screamin' Stormboy
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I will just keep buying. Ive been in the hobby for 15 years and ill be damned to give it up just cause things got a little pricey. Though I do think some kits are getting a bit rediculous. ( bloodknights ) One more reason to play orks, since you can scratch-build/convert/kitbash half your stuff.
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Ork WAAAGH Zapzog: roughly 4000 points and ever growing. Tau Cadre of Zuran'Ki: 3000 points. Grey Knights Interdiction Force Galeon : 2500 points. Tyranid Hive Fleet Crateria: 2500 Points. The Host of Hadrekon: 1500 points. Catachan 44th Swamp hunters. 800 points.
2000 points Skaven Army. Arcsqueeks Horde 1000 points Vampire Counts Army. Duke Valmai's Court. 1000 Points Dwarven Army. Bhor Grimhammers Throng. Planning to get some Ogres later this year.
Curse you Snake-eyes!
My P&M blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/454092.page#4372031 |
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