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Jimsolo wrote:Wow. Three way tie between the Black Legion, Emperor's Children, and Soul Drinkers.

Why do people keep saying Soul Drinkers? Whats the matter with them?

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:
They don't mind killing civilians and they are under-equipped and under supplied.

STill why waste the ammo on civilians?
For all we know those could be the man at arms later on.
The Marines Malovent have the interesting characteristics of being douches.

Yeah they are a chapter of arseholes. They don't try to actively kill civilians but they don't particularly care if they get hit, that makes them stick out a fair amount.

Is this really different from anyone but Salamanders/Space Wolves? Even the noble Grey Knights oversaw the purge of Armageddons population after the 1st war. Astartes have an ambivalent attitude to Imperial citizens at best and view them as an annoyance at worst. And in the Flesh Tearers case they view them as a tasty snack.

Harriticus wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:
They don't mind killing civilians and they are under-equipped and under supplied.

STill why waste the ammo on civilians?
For all we know those could be the man at arms later on.
The Marines Malovent have the interesting characteristics of being douches.

Yeah they are a chapter of arseholes. They don't try to actively kill civilians but they don't particularly care if they get hit, that makes them stick out a fair amount.

Is this really different from anyone but Salamanders/Space Wolves? Even the noble Grey Knights oversaw the purge of Armageddons population after the 1st war. Astartes have an ambivalent attitude to Imperial citizens at best and view them as an annoyance at worst.

Most Astartes have either a superior attitude or no attitude towards mortals.
SW are friends with anyone who fights for the Emperor.
Salamanders are really defensive towards civilians.
Few chapters don't care about civilian casualties... they will accept a few but they won't not care about how many they kill.

Blackskullandy wrote:I'm not a fan of the Ultrasmurfs, theyre a bit too clean cut and (i believe the term is) mary-sue.

I can't think of any Mainstream legion I dislike, I play Ultra and I kind of feel the same way you do. I like it and I don't like it. Loyalist legion that I am not that fond of at the top of my list is probably the Space Wolves. For the aesthetic reason only. I said it! Don't rip my head off.

As for chaos. I really didn't find the word bearers interesting at all. After reading the First Heretic I thought the overall book was good but found the legion kind of boring. They just cannot compete with the world eaters and the Night Lords. They are so unique and stand out way more in my opinion. Plus, how can you go wrong with BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.

Iron Hands, damn machine loving freaks

I can't stand Chapter fluff like the Blood Vampires or the Space-berserker-werewolf-vikings. But I'm a cheap wh*re so I use the BA at tournaments.

Some others, while not ripping off particularly lame horror themes, are so over the top as to be comical not 'heroic'.

The Dark Angels are the worst chapter.

They're the only chapter that mind wipes it's members when they're being too smart or worse "disapears" them. Say what you want about all the others but they are all brotherhoods. The DA are the only chapter that just a bunch of secret clubs.

The Dark Angels are the only chapter to dishonourably withdraw from a battlefield and abandon Imperial allies at the critical moment in a war to "defend their honour" and then not see the irony in that. So what you want about all the others but they wouldn't do that.

The Dark Angels don't even fight for the Imperium, they just go around pursuing some issue that every other chapter would have put behind them ages ago.

Soul Drinkers.. Chapter Master is well, a MUTANT with SPIDER LEGS... and other mutations in the ranks... but that's ok.. we still serve the Emperor.. WE know his will, and won't bow to the corrupt Imperium that has broken faith with the Emperor..

WTF?

I gotta go with Rainbow Warriors, simply because of the name. It doesn't matter how they act or what bad-ass things they do, I will never take 'em seriously! If these guys destroyed everything I've ever known, slaughtered my family and beat me to within an inch of my life, before a battle-brother pinned me to the ground under his ceramite-encased foot, bolter firmly between my eyes...

"Your end has come. The sight of us will be your last. We are Wrath. We are Vengeance. We are the Rainbow Warrioirs."

*Silence*

-Snigger-

TheFatElf wrote:I gotta go with Rainbow Warriors, simply because of the name. It doesn't matter how they act or what bad-ass things they do, I will never take 'em seriously! If these guys destroyed everything I've ever known, slaughtered my family and beat me to within an inch of my life, before a battle-brother pinned me to the ground under his ceramite-encased foot, bolter firmly between my eyes...

"Your end has come. The sight of us will be your last. We are Wrath. We are Vengeance. We are the Rainbow Warrioirs."

*Silence*

-Snigger-

I lol'd so very hard at this post.

Harriticus wrote:Mantis Warriors/Lamenters/Executioners for fighting with Huron in the Badab War then basically saying "WESA A-SORRY" when they lost. Still amazing they were allowed to live after that.

They were all punished for it, actually. The Lamenters, for example, were forced to go on a crusade before they could begin recruiting again.

The Dark Angels for shunning other Imperials and for spending so much time 'doing their own thing'...

fatelf that is going in my sig

Da Boss wrote:"Worst" is hard to nail down.

Worst at serving the Imperium? Astral Claws seem likely candidates.
Worst Fluff? I'd say Blood Angels and Space Wolves compete for this, these days.
Worst rules? I think Space Wolves have this one.
Worst servant of the Emperor? Black Templars have betrayed what the Emperor originally stood for to a level only the Word Bearers have managed.


I like Prospero Burns, but Space Wolves are a little tiresome.

I can't stand the SW. Hate their fluff, their minis, and their rules.

But please explain the Black Templar thing? They are my favorite chapter!

Melissia wrote:

Harriticus wrote:Mantis Warriors/Lamenters/Executioners for fighting with Huron in the Badab War then basically saying "WESA A-SORRY" when they lost. Still amazing they were allowed to live after that.

They were all punished for it, actually. The Lamenters, for example, were forced to go on a crusade before they could begin recruiting again.

And they weren't fighting for Chaos. They thought the were fighting for Chapter sovereignty as a principle. The Inquisition understood this.

Wait....rainbow marines?

Marshall Ragnar wrote:But please explain the Black Templar thing? They are my favorite chapter!

The Emperor never wanted to be worshipped. He thought religion would lead to worship of the Chaos Gods. The Word Bearers worshiped the Emperor pre-Heresy, and the Black Templars (to my knowledge) worship him now.

Da Boss was just saying they were the worst chapter at following what the Emperor wanted, not that they're a bad army from a real life sense.

Blood Ravens.

White scars. What have they done recently?

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:White scars. What have they done recently?

Hunted a Daemon Prince?

I have to say the Crimson fists after they lost so many Marines.

rockerbikie wrote:I have to say the Crimson fists after they lost so many Marines.

Don't think so; it was due to their fortitude and competence that they survived. And it wasn't due to any degree of incompetence or weakness that they suffered so much on Rynn's World, but because of a rogue missile very conveniently striking an 'unknown weak point' in their fortress monestary... Methinks something more than meets the eye with that.

Deathly Angel wrote:
Methinks something more than meets the eye with that.

Ork Kommandos infiltrated the chapter fortress and set a bomb off from the inside.

"Why, hello Brother Techmarine. Aren't you supposed to be up at the front lines?"

"Er. . . Da boss, uh, Cap'n sed I gotta come back 'ere an' fix' up dis 'ere. . . tech. . . fing. It'z broke."

"Say, do you have a cold or something? You sound funny."

"Yup. 'Orrible cold. Cough."

Definitely Space Sharks...

It's probably been said, but Space Wolves. I just find them very goofy looking with all the wolf armor, riding wolves, wolf names etc. Space Kitties would be much cooler. Imagine Space Marines riding giant house cats....

Molten Butter wrote:

Marshall Ragnar wrote:But please explain the Black Templar thing? They are my favorite chapter!

The Emperor never wanted to be worshipped. He thought religion would lead to worship of the Chaos Gods. The Word Bearers worshiped the Emperor pre-Heresy, and the Black Templars (to my knowledge) worship him now.

Da Boss was just saying they were the worst chapter at following what the Emperor wanted, not that they're a bad army from a real life sense.

Odd thing to hate about a Chapter, considering pretty much every imperial citizen worships the Emperor as a god... including all the other Loyalist Marines (and the Soul Drinkers)

Souldrinkers.
"Brother chaptermaster, brother chaptermaster, what is that odd thing on your leg?"
"Oh brother Librarian Sarpeidon, it's just an idiot ball. It becomes standard issue equipment for the entire chapter. Here is yours."

Souldrinkers are bomb... or were bomb considering it's looks like they're all good as dead with the end of Hell Forged.

Anyway, Space Wolves... I mean are space vikings really necessary? I would Dark Eldar would be enough in the raiding pillaging and raping aspect anyhow.

Marines Malevolent. The whole chapter is basically full of sociopathic arseholes

Viersche wrote:Marines Malevolent. The whole chapter is basically full of sociopathic arseholes

Just like geneticaly altered, superhuman childsoldiers with an unusualy high agression, bound by 10000 years of xeno/genocidial dogma ( which only confirms their perceived superiority over normal humans ) and a lifetime of unimaginable horrors and bloodshed might act.