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2011/10/02 00:48:18
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
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Coolyo294 wrote:Da SPESS WHULVES for being special snowflake super marines.
This. Their fluff tries to make them out to be the best at everything all the time, they're Space Pranksters, Spymasters, Star Vikings, Dark Executioners, Pysker Haters, Drunken Barbarians, Werewolves, Space Berzerkers, Brash Warriors, Sullen and Humble soldiers, Egotistical Bravado Freaks, Power Psykers, Space Warfare Masters, Siege Specialists, Close Combat Enthusiasts, etc all in one and they just come off...awful, contradictory, confused and juvenile. Granted this *is* 40k we're talking about, but even for 40k they take it too far.
EDIT: also, as originally postulated by others, they've also got a hipster vibe about them
"Yeah, psykers are bad, we have Runepriests, they get their power from the native energy of Fenris, you've probably never heard of it..."
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2011/10/02 00:50:53
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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OMG they are riding Wolves and are really good at close combat that's about it.
Don't tack on more pointless characteristics that can be said about any chapter.
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2011/10/02 00:52:33
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Russ Mandarin wrote:OMG they are riding Wolves and are really good at close combat that's about it.
Don't tack on more pointless characteristics that can be said about any chapter.
I'm not, I've just read their codex and BL books 
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2011/10/06 13:02:14
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Rss Mandarin, you need to read A Thousand Sons. Just read the bit on Nikea. Everything said against the Space Wolves will be utterly vindicated.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
 buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2011/10/06 13:09:52
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Surely the Hawk Lords should be destroyed for wearing the original colours of one of the Traitor Legions?
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2011/10/06 18:12:19
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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How can people dislike Space Sharks? They're like the honey badger of 40k, they just don't give a ****.
Mantis Warriors don't wanna fight? Let's kill some civilians and see how they feel.
Star Phantoms fighting Huron? Let's blow up the planet just to be safe.
Giving us these planets? Let's hold a big death match with the entire male population and use the winners to fill in our losses.
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2011/10/06 18:14:12
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Russ Mandarin wrote:OMG they are riding Wolves and are really good at close combat that's about it.
Don't tack on more pointless characteristics that can be said about any chapter.
Lol. You do know what you're talking about, don't you? Oh no, you don't. Go and look through the threads, there's no need to re-post the 15 unique reasons why Space Wolves are the worst Chapter.
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2011/10/06 18:14:22
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Fully-charged Electropriest
Richmond, VA (We are legion)
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Rainbow Warriors. Like, really? You couldn't even try to be original with a reference, instead of flat-out STATING it?
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2011/10/06 18:36:45
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Strangely, I'll say Ultrasmurfs. Thay're the worst because they're always considered to be the best.
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2011/10/07 23:58:31
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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KilroyKiljoy wrote:Rainbow Warriors. Like, really? You couldn't even try to be original with a reference, instead of flat-out STATING it?
I think if anything, it just shows how the scale of 40k has changed from quite humble beginnings. Remember at that time it was just some guys working together in a basement and knocking all of this stuff together, I don't think they ever could have imagined that 25 years later there would be tens of thousands of people picking through it with a fine-tooth comb! 
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2011/10/09 16:31:43
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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There is only one true awful chapter, the Pretty Marines, and one great one, THE CLASSY MARINES!
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You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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2011/10/09 17:20:55
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Squigsquasher wrote:Rss Mandarin, you need to read A Thousand Sons. Just read the bit on Nikea. Everything said against the Space Wolves will be utterly vindicated.
Iv'e already read it and then to be fair you would need to also read Prospero Burns too just to get the whole picture but nope I can tell you are happy with the mad hypocritical Space Idiots that the Thousand Sons painted them as.
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2011/10/09 20:50:52
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
England, Northamptonshire
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It really maddens me how people are so jealous of the space wolves. I mean the people who hate against them plot really petty points. Codex overpowered? No. ALL codexes are overpowered, it just depends on which units you field. If you are fighting an overpowered army, you field an overpowered army. Simples.
Again, the fluff. I really don't mind the Viking/Werewolf fluff. The developers are simply taking popular mythology and history of some of the greatest warrior races and putting them together. I completely agree with the wolves, thunderwolves are ott, yet i still find them extremely appealing even if it does cheapen their entire image. Blood Angels are just as bad being renaissaince vampires and the Ultramarines being Ultra Romans. All im trying to say is for every bad point you make against a chapter, it can be applied to another chapter.
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2011/10/09 21:08:31
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Durza wrote:Surely the Hawk Lords should be destroyed for wearing the original colours of one of the Traitor Legions?
So your calling the black templars heretics? anyone who wears the colors of a now heretical group? Are you insane? That would mean the entire blood angels chapter would be screwed because they wear red.
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2011/10/09 23:09:02
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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The Son Of Russ wrote:It really maddens me how people are so jealous of the space wolves. I mean the people who hate against them plot really petty points. Codex overpowered? No. ALL codexes are overpowered, it just depends on which units you field. If you are fighting an overpowered army, you field an overpowered army. Simples.
Again, the fluff. I really don't mind the Viking/Werewolf fluff. The developers are simply taking popular mythology and history of some of the greatest warrior races and putting them together. I completely agree with the wolves, thunderwolves are ott, yet i still find them extremely appealing even if it does cheapen their entire image. Blood Angels are just as bad being renaissaince vampires and the Ultramarines being Ultra Romans. All im trying to say is for every bad point you make against a chapter, it can be applied to another chapter.
Ah, I see. Without any sort of retort to the points against the Space Wolves, you take a stance of superiority. We're "jealous", so our preferences can be dismissed. The Space Wolves have a generally overpowered Codex. You have nothing to say against that. It gives near every option that the regular marine codex, only cheaper and better, in many cases. The fluff is all opinion, and in mine, it's childish, over-the-top, and paints the Space Wolves as giant hypocritical special snowflake hipsters. Death to those who use psykers, but it's OK for us to use Rune Priests, you probably haven't heard of them. We can say screw you to the Inquisition and the Ecclesiarchy due to our massive d-baggery, never mind that some chapters can be declared traitors for opposing Imperium forces. And no, it's not something that can be applied to every other chapter. There's no other that have the same kind of over-use of a theme. Have your own preferences, I really don't care, but if you want to argue, do so with reason and don't belittle the arguments of others as a defence.
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2011/10/09 23:51:36
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Rune Priests are not the same thing as psychers so we might as well just stop trying to go route of calling the space wolves hypocrites because of that. This is something that is supported in their codex and even validated in their own fluff.
"Oh the Space Wolves are super superstitious" Yes and this superstition is an important part of why Space Wolves never turn to chaos.
Apposing the Inquisition is not exclusive to the Space Wolves its a known fact that any chapter (besides maybe the Grey Knigts) would eventually come to conflict with them over most matters if pushed far enough. The Space Wolves don't follow the Codex maybe if other chapters had made this known to Rowboat they would get this type of treatment as well but IDK. Suffice to say the Space Wolves have a pretty damn good reason for not trusting the inquisition.
As for the fluff that surrounds then being childish? That's just an opinion one I don't subscribe too because I know another chapter that goes around stealing things and I don't hear a peep abou them in this thread.
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2011/10/10 00:18:17
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Russ Mandarin wrote:Rune Priests are not the same thing as psychers
Spoken like a true Space Wolf. Long live the hypocrisy. Rune Priests draw their power from the warp, just like every other psyker. They don't want to believe that, so they lie to themselves about it. Space Wolfs ARE the worst most hypocritical chapter ever!...thats imho, of course. Really, it's not surprising that Space Wolf fans share the attribute of assumed superiority of their chosen chapter.
Oh, and just to get the point across... Rune Priests ARE the same thing as psykers. Period. Deal with it.
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Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
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2011/10/10 01:34:53
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Phiasco is right. Rune Priests are psykers who falsely believe they are tapping into something besides the warp.
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2011/10/10 01:41:10
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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KilroyKiljoy wrote:Rainbow Warriors. Like, really? You couldn't even try to be original with a reference, instead of flat-out STATING it?
Am I the only one that likes the Rainbow Warriors...??????
Worst chapter IMO has got to be either
A: Ultramarines...I just don't like the whole "every space marines wishes to be an ULTRAMARINE!!!!" It's kinda lame...and the fact they ALWAYS win...... 
B: Black legion...I like the simple color scheme they have...but Their basically the Ultramarines of chaos...and by that I mean their the general Chaos poster boys...
C: Space sharks...I mean come on... Lets take do the whole "Space" and an animal thing...you know...like the space wolves did...
D: most chapters that have either "space" or "marines" in their name....original much....
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2011/10/10 01:51:38
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Space Wolves hate psychers why would a chapter that is overly superstitious and paranoid about sorcery use psychers? simple answer they don't
Rune Priests draw their power from Fenrisian shaman rituals. They don't touch the warp which is why they don't need Psychic hoods and they don't use Force weapons instead opting for Rune powered weaponry.
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2011/10/10 02:21:18
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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You need to read A Thousand Sons mate...
The Rune Priests may use different forms of ritual and have a different mindset in terms of what they are doing, but the powers they produce are still coming from the same place.
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2011/10/10 02:31:39
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Irked Blood Angel Scout with Combat Knife
Pittsburg, Kansas
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Any non-first founding legions with exception of black templars and crimson fists chapters.
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Let the heretic know our hate  
Let them hear it from our Bolters 
Let them feel it from our blades 
The Emperors name at our lips 
The Primarchs words in our hearts 
Astartes to War!
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2011/10/10 02:59:07
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Russ Mandarin wrote:Rune Priests draw their power from Fenrisian shaman rituals. They don't touch the warp which is why they don't need Psychic hoods and they don't use Force weapons instead opting for Rune powered weaponry.
And, pray tell, where does the power for Fenrisian shaman rituals come from? 
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2011/10/10 03:00:53
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Space Wolves aren't that bad.
If anything the worst chapter remains the Death Knights who are a loyalist chapter that are bright green and have yellow shoulder pads. And pink eyes. the worst chapter ever winner* ding ding ding.
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2011/10/10 03:12:50
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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Asherian Command wrote:Space Wolves aren't that bad.
If anything the worst chapter remains the Death Knights who are a loyalist chapter that are bright green and have yellow shoulder pads. And pink eyes. the worst chapter ever winner* ding ding ding.
Actually, that color scheme seems pretty bad ass........ lol
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2011/10/10 03:19:02
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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bombboy1252 wrote:Asherian Command wrote:Space Wolves aren't that bad.
If anything the worst chapter remains the Death Knights who are a loyalist chapter that are bright green and have yellow shoulder pads. And pink eyes. the worst chapter ever winner* ding ding ding.
Actually, that color scheme seems pretty bad ass........ lol
they are called death knights. Yet they were the most brightest stuff ever...
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Death_Knights#.TpJi7HLO19l
They look stupid too.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Purple_Stars#.TpJjDHLO19l
Stupid name
BETRAYERS OF PAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Betrayers_of_Pain#.TpJjD3LO19l
Also piss yellow is not something a space marine should be proud of.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skull_Bearers#.TpJjEXLO19l
Skull bearers. One sec let me fix something Word Bearers
Fixed.
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2011/10/10 03:22:55
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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The death knight colors seemed better in words, their was no information on the purple stars...shame...the Betrayers of pain have a dumb name...but they look cool and the skull bearers need a better shade of yellow...
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2011/10/10 03:35:25
Subject: Re:Worst Space marine chapter
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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bombboy1252 wrote:
The death knight colors seemed better in words, their was no information on the purple stars...shame...the Betrayers of pain have a dumb name...but they look cool and the skull bearers need a better shade of yellow...
If the skull bearers had any other yellow they would be imperial fists.
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2011/10/10 03:59:37
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Fully-charged Electropriest
Richmond, VA (We are legion)
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On a side note, is there a SINGLE nurgle army that ISN'T green? Like, hell, everything I like has some sort of green to it. Necrons, Orks, Nurgle.....
Srsly, point me to some non-green Nurglitic CSM Warbands
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2011/10/10 04:56:28
Subject: Worst Space marine chapter
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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KilroyKiljoy wrote:On a side note, is there a SINGLE nurgle army that ISN'T green? Like, hell, everything I like has some sort of green to it. Necrons, Orks, Nurgle.....
Srsly, point me to some non-green Nurglitic CSM Warbands
I like that word..... Nurglitic
has a nice ring to it...but seeing as though green/brown are Nurgles colors...I would assume such warbands are scarce.
like how Khorne has red
Tzeentch has blue/purple
Slaanesh has purple/pink
it is the way of the things in the warp.....
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