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2012/02/05 21:36:47
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Tadashi wrote:Human/Space Marine, Eldar, Ork. Other races are just too inhuman or too noblebright (Tau). Grimdark may mean oppression, but at the very least, Mankind is united and majority of its resources are devoted to survival and domination. The Eldar are as grimdark as the Humans are, and the Orks are even more grimdark than the Imperials. Only race I would not want to be other than the Tau are the Forces of Chaos.
Um...too noblebright to enjoy a life as a tau??? The tau empire is more similar to modern day humanity that IoM is, though I admit even it isn't oo similar.
I don't like modern day humanity. One reason I like 40k is because capitalism is in chains, Mankind is united, a single purpose drives us, great leaders exist, and Men and Women alike must rise to the challenge lest all be lost, unlike now where the only thing that drive people is money, money, MONEY! This world is rotten, and it should just be destroyed. Democracy, human rights, liberty? Don't joke around. What kind of future is that? A future where evolution is not possible because hardship doesn't exist? Evolution is survival of the fittest, my friend.
Minor point, but evolution is survival of the most receptive to change. Very big difference.
I really need to stay away from the 40K forums.
2012/02/05 21:37:20
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
illuknisaa wrote:I would be an ork as orks suffer no poverty, decease or lack of freedom. They have the most stable society that relies on strong leadership, capitalism and fair and incorrupt justice system. Being an ork would be like living in a utopia. Seriously how many orks have heard commiting a suicide because their lives suck?
Of course they suffer poverty, when all their teefs get tooked.
And getting killed because you exist would suck. Plus, living only a few years because of the in-fighting, and that's if you're lucky.
illuknisaa wrote:I would be an ork as orks suffer no poverty, decease or lack of freedom. They have the most stable society that relies on strong leadership, capitalism and fair and incorrupt justice system. Being an ork would be like living in a utopia. Seriously how many orks have heard commiting a suicide because their lives suck?
Of course they suffer poverty, when all their teefs get tooked.
And getting killed because you exist would suck. Plus, living only a few years because of the in-fighting, and that's if you're lucky.
Ok they suffer from poverty but it is always brief (as they grow their teef back very fast) and it is always on individual level and if you really need the money there is always that badmoon who has too many teef for his own good
Orks live for fighting. They love nothing else than fighting. An oomie equivalent would like having sex all the time with the most beatiful women without ever getting tired.
Orkses is never defeated in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!
Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
2012/02/05 22:09:22
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
I just love how a bunch of people ar elike "Id so be a guardsmen/fire warrior, cus then I could go on and do this!" Not to sound pessimistic or anything, but I dont think any of us could survive.
Me you say? Not Tau. Their society is not as free as you think it is.
Ork. In the grim future, there is only waaaagh!
2012/02/05 22:58:33
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Human, I'm a sucker for the underdogs. Where being a civilian would EXTREMELY suck, especially if any other race beside a human decided to pay youre planet a "visit", I've always liked the average Grunt Guardsmen. Sure, most of their commanders are like, go here and die, but there are also some really good ones out there as well. And well, in the 40k universe, SM and CSM are freaking OP to gak, I mean no human could take on one of those guys by himself and win, (Unless they were Stracken or Marbo, or a Ghost... cause it seems not even a Marine can take down them...) and then throw in all the xenos on top of that, It's got to take some Serious balls to fight with flashlight and pocket knife against an orc, or even a DE. But I digress.
2012/02/05 23:09:35
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
illuknisaa wrote:I would be an ork as orks suffer no poverty, decease or lack of freedom.
There are poor Orks and rich Orks. Those with lots of teef and those without it.
The life of your standard Ork is mercifully short. You'll be killed fairly quickly.
"Lack of freedom" exists. You do what the biggest Ork tells you. If you don't, he'll bash your head in.
They have the most stable society that relies on strong leadership, capitalism and fair and incorrupt justice system. Being an ork would be like living in a utopia. Seriously how many orks have heard commiting a suicide because their lives suck?
Ork society stable? Ork's are "thriving" as a race, but don't confuse that with a stable society. Orkish society is brutal, completely chaotic, and utterly unstable. I imagine an Ork city resembles GTA-IV Multiplayer. Shooting everywhere, vehicles riding all over the place at full speed, and planes randomly crashing into buildings.
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My Armies:
5,500pts 2,700pts 2,000pts
2012/02/05 23:45:36
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Necrons are probably the safest choice seeing as anything with a soul has the chance of having their essence om nom nom'd by daemons for eternity. If you're low on the cron totem pole you probably don't even have enough sentience to make heads or tails of the horror and pain surrounding you. If you're higher up on the hierarchy...well it could be pretty sweet to be a supreme robotic overlord with deathless legions at his command.
Perks include immortality (to an extent), immunity to pain and probably most psychological terrors. Only things to watch out for is insanity, Destroyer virus (but that's not too bad), and worst of all the Flayer disease. A relatively short list of problems compared to what every other race has to deal with.
Also if you're a Cryptek you can have fun bending space-time!
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
2012/02/05 23:56:25
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Since I appear to have gone off topic, I will return to the topic.
1) Space Marines - because they're badass
2) Titan Legions - because they're just as badass
3) Imperial Guard - the most heroic army in all of 40k 4) Eldar - they're the most Human of all xenos
5) Orks - the deadliest comic relief and most successful race in existence
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
2012/02/06 02:33:22
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Tadashi wrote:Since I appear to have gone off topic, I will return to the topic.
1) Space Marines - because they're badass
2) Titan Legions - because they're just as badass
3) Imperial Guard - the most heroic army in all of 40k 4) Eldar - they're the most Human of all xenos
5) Orks - the deadliest comic relief and most successful race in existence
When did titans become a race? I'm pretty sure titans aren't a race. If I could be a titan I definitely would be though, or a manta. Hmmm,,,
Again, I have to argue about how human the Eldar are. They are probably the most alien of any xenos, barring Tyranids.
im2randomghgh wrote:An'ggrath would have eaten Sanguinius.
An'ggrath couldn't even beat Lorgar (And do note this was Lorgar before any Chaos enhancements, and before he got his ass beat by Corax).
IMO the worst thing to be in 40k is your average Necron Warrior. Technically, you are still sentient and conscious, just incapable of perceiving the world around you. That's a fate worse than any in 40kIMHO, any sort of stimulus, good or bad, is better than the crippling feeling of nothing.
2012/02/06 03:40:01
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
1hadhq wrote:Spare time and Tau?
Its all for the greater goood and a short lifespan.....so zero spare time.
A content population is part of the Greater Good, and the humans who have become part of the Tau Empire seem pretty satisfied - at least going by GW's descriptions.
Now - how much spare time they really have is debatable, but I'm fairly certain it's more than the 15 minutes that you get as a Space Marine.
15 minutes to be spent contemplating about how awesome it is that you're allowed to serve the IoM.
If your Chapter is generous.
Tadashi wrote:Complete freedom only brings about the abandonment of morals.
I think you have a point there. However, I would not describe the Imperium as being big on morals either - at least modern day morals. In fact, with the IoM, too, you have people who enjoy "complete freedom" and abuse it at the cost of their fellow countrymen. The Imperial nobility.
Of course, one might say that this is part of the price the Imperium has to pay to remain stable ... one might even say that condoning this kind of corruption is for the Greater Good of the Imperium of Man.
This considered, there actually isn't much of a difference between the IoM and the Tau Empire, at least on the most basic levels. Both species advocate relinquishing personal freedoms and rights in favour of their people represented by the God-Emperor as mankind's saviour on one side, or the Greater Good as an abstract ideal on the other. It just so happens that the Tau are still quite young and on their way up, whilst the IoM is inflated, suffering from it's massive size and on its way down. Much like the Roman Empire of old. If the IoM would be smaller, I wager it'd be capable of running things more efficient and orderly as well, but with this kind of distance between its worlds and the lag of communication and traveltimes, a central government is nigh-impossible to maintain.
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2012/02/06 03:41:05
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Tadashi wrote:At first glance I would agree, but after giving it some thought, no, I don't think so. Eldar experience things much wider and deeper because they're a fully-realized psychic race. The only Humans who've fully-realized their abilities are Malcador and the Emperor. Otherwise, the Eldar act like how Humans would act in similar situations.
Honestly I don't think the cause matters, ultimately that one rather large detail makes Eldar rather different from humans.
I also don't believe the Emperor, Malcador, or Magnus, the three strongest human psykers in history (Ahriman could arguably be lumped in as being around Malcador's level) had the same problem as the Eldar do, implying to me that it is inherent to the Eldar.
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2012/02/06 03:43:39
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
1hadhq wrote:Spare time and Tau?
Its all for the greater goood and a short lifespan.....so zero spare time.
A content population is part of the Greater Good, and the humans who have become part of the Tau Empire seem pretty satisfied - at least going by GW's descriptions.
Now - how much spare time they really have is debatable, but I'm fairly certain it's more than the 15 minutes that you get as a Space Marine.
15 minutes to be spent contemplating about how awesome it is that you're allowed to serve the IoM.
If your Chapter is generous.
You have to consider that, although not to the extent of the Eldar IMO, Tau are still fundamentally inhuman. It is entirely likely that their "spare time" is spent towards enslaving yourself to the Greater Good, if only willingly (And it may not even be that, though let's not make this about whether or not the Ethereals indoctrinate their species through pheromones lol).
2012/02/06 03:50:00
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Void__Dragon wrote:You have to consider that, although not to the extent of the Eldar IMO, Tau are still fundamentally inhuman. It is entirely likely that their "spare time" is spent towards enslaving yourself to the Greater Good, if only willingly (And it may not even be that, though let's not make this about whether or not the Ethereals indoctrinate their species through pheromones lol).
Maybe, maybe not - but I'd rather spend an hour in propaganda class rather than 15 minutes in a damp cell with nothing but my already hypno-indoctrinated mind. At least the Tau version of the Ecclesiarchy would be somewhat cleaner and not focused on trying to turn me into a flagellant.
In general, however, I think the Tau Empire is much more like modern day society in that people actually have a schedule and nobody cares what you do when your shift is over (it's the only reasonable way to do stuff - given that people have different sleep requirements and you cannot just have them work 24/7). As long as you don't do anything that would harm the fabric of society, as that would be against the Greater Good. For what it's worth, I do believe in Imperial citizens including Guardsmen having "time off" as well. It's just that I think Tau Empire citizens still get to live somewhat longer. For example, Tau society doesn't do such crap as pulling you off your cornfield (without compensation for the people you leave behind), handing you a lasgun and sending you into a warzone 20 lightyears away assaulting an Ork stronghold after 2 weeks of practice on the transport ship. Can happen in the Imperial Guard. Or clearing minefields by having you walk over them.
There's simply a lot of stuff that would (should!) seem pretty silly to us, but to the Imperium it's second nature because its citizenry is one of its most expendable resources simply due to the Imperium's massive size and population. And let's not even get into what you'd have to endure as a citizen - provided you actually have citizenship rights and weren't born with some sort of mutation, turning you into a slave.
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2012/02/06 03:55:55
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Lynata wrote:Maybe, maybe not - but I'd rather spend an hour in propaganda class rather than 15 minutes in a damp cell with nothing but my already hypno-indoctrinated mind. At least the Tau version of the Ecclesiarchy would be somewhat cleaner and not focused on trying to turn me into a flagellant.
In general, however, I think the Tau Empire is much more like modern day society in that people actually have a schedule and nobody cares what you do when your shift is over (it's the only reasonable way to do stuff - given that people have different sleep requirements and you cannot just have them work 24/7). As long as you don't do anything that would harm the fabric of society, as that would be against the Greater Good.
True, the Tau Empire is less of a shithole to live in than the Imperium, though I am personally not sure I would like actually being a Tau. If only because I don't want to be a noodle-armed shrimp, lol.
Being a human in the Tau Empire would probably be relativly nice, I would imagine. Though, really, being born into the upper class of the Imperium is also not bad.
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2012/02/06 03:58:40
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Void__Dragon wrote:Being a human in the Tau Empire would probably be relativly nice, I would imagine. Though, really, being born into the upper class of the Imperium is also not bad.
Same for me on both options.
2012/02/06 04:16:47
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
im2randomghgh wrote:An'ggrath would have eaten Sanguinius.
An'ggrath couldn't even beat Lorgar (And do note this was Lorgar before any Chaos enhancements, and before he got his ass beat by Corax).
IMO the worst thing to be in 40k is your average Necron Warrior. Technically, you are still sentient and conscious, just incapable of perceiving the world around you. That's a fate worse than any in 40kIMHO, any sort of stimulus, good or bad, is better than the crippling feeling of nothing.
They never fought, to my knowledge. I'm not even sure he existed at that point in time, I think when Lorgar was non-chaos, this was back when Skarbrand was running the show.
An'ggrath would have eaten Lorgar too. Ka'bandha beat Sanguinius the first time around, and almost beat him the second time, and An'ggrath is the strongest Bloodthirster. An'ggrath>Ka'bandha>Sanguinius>Lorgar
Tadashi wrote:At first glance I would agree, but after giving it some thought, no, I don't think so. Eldar experience things much wider and deeper because they're a fully-realized psychic race. The only Humans who've fully-realized their abilities are Malcador and the Emperor. Otherwise, the Eldar act like how Humans would act in similar situations.
Honestly I don't think the cause matters, ultimately that one rather large detail makes Eldar rather different from humans.
I also don't believe the Emperor, Malcador, or Magnus, the three strongest human psykers in history (Ahriman could arguably be lumped in as being around Malcador's level) had the same problem as the Eldar do, implying to me that it is inherent to the Eldar.
The Eldar's fundamental weakness is the desire to achieve maximum sensation of everything they can experience and do, while Humans want to become more and have more than they already are and they already have. In that way, we're quite similar already.
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
2012/02/06 22:43:04
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Tyranid because no matter how many times you die as long as a Ripper takes a chunk out of you and dives into a digestion pool you will come back again and again and because we are the race that doesn't go planet hopping we come from under the galaxy so we can pick off anyone at anytime AND because we already got a ton of guys on like every planet including Terra,Cadia, Gothmorra,Octavius,Fi'rios,Bork'an,Krieg,and every other IG planet it seems,and Ymargyl waiting to heed the call of the Hive Mind
Prey,Kill,Eradicate!!!!!!
2012/02/07 05:41:53
Subject: Re:What race would you be in the 40k universe?
Tied between the Tau and the Eldar. I wouldn't mind being an Eldar ranger or corsair; I think I'd live for quite awhile. Craftworlds and Exodite Worlds are just too much of a beacon for trouble.
The trick would be to make sure my soul stone gets back to an infinity circuit.
As for Tau, well. Being a water caste member would be awesome. Living for only 50 years kind of sucks, though.
2012/02/08 03:50:37
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
I would have to say C'tan. Immortal, Ultimate power, you can wrap reality around you float on air pass through solid objects and generally show off. The only real downside it you'd need to wait for the Necrons to make a Necrodermis shell before you can interact effectively with the physical world, and the sharding. But if you don't want to be a malicious slave overlord and just go off on your own after the Necrons give you form you need not worry about sharding.
2012/02/08 04:16:13
Subject: What race would you be in the 40k universe?
In a world where there is no good guys and everything is in a constant spiral of entropy, I'd go with Tau. I wouldn't be any less evil or manipulated than everyone else, but I'd be happier about it.
If C'Tan weren't now prisoners to the Necrons with little comprehension of what they once were (and definately with a lot less power) I'd have to settle for a Phaeron, or a High-Ranking Cryptek.
I want to live forever young, but I'll settle for forever with next to no signs of aging
"Let the galaxy burn!"
