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**Neith**

In regards to the rumour of 4 new Tyranid types...I saw a picture somewhere (either a Codex or rulebook of somekind) which showed a chart of how Tyranids attack a planet. Listed at the end were 4 unit type we don't have in 40k yet.
- Exocrine
- Dominatrix
- Malefactor
- Haruspex

I'm not saying those will definitely be the four new types, but it seems convenient. Of course, 'new types' could just mean Trygon/Malanthrope and two others (not Hierodule/Hierophant, I'm thinking those will stay FW-only kits).

**Nurglitch**

Those are established Tyranid creatures, first seen in the Space Marine 2nd edition Tyranid expansion.

**Necros**

maybe they'll have the snakey tail and some other bitz on one sprue and the rest of the trygon body on another, and a malanthrope body & head on another, so they can make 2 kits out of the same snakey tail sprue. Or maybe it'll be a trygon/malathrope kit where you just add in some different bitz to make one or the other

**Railguns**

There looks to me to be at least 2 different heads, and 2 different tails to the Trygon, in the pictures we've seen. One with a grabby appendage that I must assume involves some sort of swallow attack akin to the Red Terror's special attack, and the other seems to be some form of implant attack?

As for tail, the 2 different Trygons are displaying what looks to be either a scythed or poisoned end, and a club end. If those are indeed what the tail ends are then the Trygon probably follows a biomorph scheme like the Carnifex does now. I hope that it doesn't require biomorphs just to be used competently like the Carnifex does now.

**H.B.M.C.**

As I said in a previous thread, what we've seen so far are probably prototypes for the plastic Trygon, in a similar way we saw proto-Stompaz in the Apoc rulebook and a proto-Bastion on the 5th Ed rulebook. I'd say we should expect something similar to what we've seen, but not exactly what we've seen.

**mikesorensonxx**

Neith wrote:In regards to the rumour of 4 new Tyranid types...I saw a picture somewhere (either a Codex or rulebook of somekind) which showed a chart of how Tyranids attack a planet. Listed at the end were 4 unit type we don't have in 40k yet.
- Exocrine
- Dominatrix
- Malefactor
- Haruspex

I'm not saying those will definitely be the four new types, but it seems convenient. Of course, 'new types' could just mean Trygon/Malanthrope and two others (not Hierodule/Hierophant, I'm thinking those will stay FW-only kits).

The dominatrix is about the size of a Hierodule, the other three the size of the trygon so I doubt we'll see any of them on top of the Trygon. Although a Exocrine would be nice, we need an anti-tank ranged creature. The Malefactor and Haruspex also have the same roll as the Trygon.

**Railguns**

I'll laugh if they come up with some modern version of the old slug with a super-venom cannon coming out of its back and saying it's the answer to all our anti-armor woes.

**gorgon**

I think spore mines are going to play a bigger role in antitank. They're even on the cover...is that the first time ever we can say that? One might even be one of those large spore sacks, although it's unclear.

**Nurglitch**

Actually, given the general configuration of the Carnifex model, Forgeworld's Scythed Hierodule, and the Biovore, I can imagine that they can produce both Exocrine models and Biovore models based on the Carnifex kit, either recut, or with an extra sprue of bits thrown in. Or even a new dual-purpose set.

Make the Carnifex the assault version, the Exocrine the direct-fire gun-beast with a heavy venom-cannon style gun poking out from the front of its carapace, and the Biovore the indirect-fire gun-beast with a spore-launcher located in the same location. Replace the middle set of limbs in the case of the latter-two with sacs of spore mines, and you're gravy.

Also, have the Exocrine fire D3 S10 AP1 Blasts, and enable the Biovore to produce extra Spore Mines at the cost of wounds, and give Spore Mines Large Blast markers and you have three distinct niches.

**JohnHwangDD**

When we talk about 4 new types, remember that the Codex is helmed by none other than the esteemed Robin Crudace of C: IG fame. So at a minimum, 1 of the new types is going to be the humble and lowly "Spinegaunt".

The Trygon and Malanthorpe are givens as they are brand new models.

That leaves the 4th, which will be a new name for a Heavy Warrior.

**Nurglitch**

I think it's more likely that "Gaunts" will be Termagants again. It's a pity that they amalgamated Termagants and Hormugaunts into "Gaunts" in the first place, and worse still that they left Termagants as "Gaunts" even after putting Hormugaunts back in their own unit. But at least they have the opportunity to fix it.

**MilkmanAl**

I'm just excited about the rumors of reasonably-priced Gaunts. Hallelujah! Hormagaunts sound like they might still be kind of mediocre from No Retreat, but at least they're usable.

**Railguns**

I'm a bit torn. I like the models, and how the Termagants and Hormagaunts seem to be derived from a single "ancestor" warrior creature. At the same time, I like how they used to be so severely differentiated; so much so that Hormagaunts were basically fast shock troops and Termagants were more "convential" foot soldiers. I always wanted to use Termagants over Spinegaunts, even though Spinegaunts were cheaper and generally did the same job better because of it, because Termagants were iconic of Tyranids to me. I hope there is a good reason to use them of spinies in this book.

**Fateweaver**

Hasn't it been established that it's 4 new species not done before? That could mean 4 current fluff species getting rules or 4 new ones that have not even been in fluff ever. 'Nids constantly evolve, makes sense that some new, never before seen by Imperial commanders, species (or 4) could have recently been spotted.

New species can mean just that, not necessarily new models for existing fluff species.

**Railguns**

There is a precedent for "new" things being old things they decided to bring back with Cruddance. The 4 "new" species may very well be options we already have now that don't have their own codex entries.

**JohnHwangDD**

Fateweaver wrote:Hasn't it been established that it's 4 new species not done before?

Yeah, like IG Griffons, Vindicators, Medusas & Valkyries.

**H.B.M.C.**

I'd rather have the Dactylisc (or however you spelt it) be the indirect one than a bigger Biovore.

Fateweaver wrote:Hasn't it been established that it's 4 new species not done before?

Just like Space Hulk was something GW had never done before?

[EDIT]: Damn it! Beaten to the punch by John...

**Tresson**

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'd rather have the Dactylisc (or however you spelt it) be the indirect one than a bigger Biovore.

Fateweaver wrote:Hasn't it been established that it's 4 new species not done before?

Just like Space Hulk was something GW had never done before?

[EDIT]: Damn it! Beaten to the punch by John...

Your post-fu is growing weak.

**Minaith1989**

Wouldnt surprise me if its what neith said (yes they may be established but that doesnt mean they cant pass them off as 'new' again. They could be variants of them). I guess we shall just have to wait!

**Neith**

Nurglitch wrote:Those are established Tyranid creatures, first seen in the Space Marine 2nd edition Tyranid expansion.

Yeah, I mentioned those because they don't have a 40k counterpart. I didn't know they're Trygon-sized (aside from the Dominatrix, which is probably meant to be bigger). Even though using their current predetermined sizes in 40k would be ridiculous, I just found it odd that there were exactly 4 species mentioned.

However, the mention of Spinegaunts is interesting, those didn't cross my mind at all.

**Tim the Biovore**

I saw the sneek peak at the new codex cover and man does it suck. Looks like GW is hiring yr1 artist thesedays.

**reds8n**

I disagree, the cover is very nice.

It's 3 new plastic kits and 3 new metal kits with this codex.

**BrookM**

Any word on what's what?

Is there still something brewing with that Trigon?

**reds8n**

I have some ideas and thoughts...can't say anything yet, but I do think the Trygon is very plausible. Wouldn't surprise me if we again see units that hitherto have been FW or don't have models either--like the guard codex.

**BrookM**

I'm guessing no new Gargoyles then.

**reds8n**

BrookM wrote:I'm guessing no new Gargoyles then.

..

it...I think you're 100% wrong there actually.

**H.B.M.C.**

New metal Gargoyles then - twice as fiddly, and with a new flying base that's three times higher and snaps if you breathe near it.

**reds8n**

H.B.M.C. wrote:New metal Gargoyles then - .

..nope.

**NAVARRO**

reds8n wrote:I disagree, the cover is very nice.

It's 3 new plastic kits and 3 new metal kits with this codex.

The cover looks good to me to... and I work with illustrations for a living wich means nothing I guess

Thanks for the info mate...

Wild guess plastic Trygon, Hive tyrant & gargs... metal... broodlord, new beetles swarm, biovore ( because they miss everytime they try)

**Tim the Biovore**

OK, so I never said you guys had to dislike the new cover, but I am not the first person people have disagreed with, I am simply the most annoying. But I am looking forward to see if we get plastic Heirophants and Trygons. I reckon that Tyrant Guard and Biovore should come in a pack like the Chaos Terminator Lord, a main body with multiple add-ons.