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Zoes were cool back in 2nd ed. I LOVED their original artwork in the codex, too bad they made the fig based on it when they did the metal warriors. Oh god those metal warriors, and the corresponding metal Zoe fig, were just Bad. The only version of the warrior figs I've disliked. I've never been a real big fan of the giant floating head thing myself, and not cared for any of the figs they've done for it.

Rules wise is hasn't changed too much, it's always been pretty much a vessel for Warp Field/Warp Blast oombos.

If the new psyker is a super zoe, I've already got a fig for it. Made giant zoe out of the previous Tyrant + Warrior back for the old make your own `nid creature rules.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see a new Biovore fig really. They've put out a new version of that every time they update the codex. Other than the head on the ork one, they've been slowly improving it's look. Too bad the rules for it seem to be slowly getting worse each version.

What's a Malanthrope? I've seen the forgeworld fig, but never it's rules to know just what that thing's supposed to be/do.

Kinda like a Hive tyrant with fleet and ID

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stealers are going to be elite unless you take a broodlord (who can supposedly be upgraded much more than the current one.).

dispelling every psychic pwoer on 4+ isnt that ridiculous if each one not dispelled costs you a whole squad...

maybe the change the malanetropes fluff to also be a super-zoa?

Dunno if ya's know but theres 4 types of nid listed in an over view of how nids consume worlds. The nids listed arent in 40k so im wondering if its them? I believe its in the codex but i dont have one to hand atm so I'll post again later with the location of it.

The price drop is nice, but 3 pts and free WoN says to me we can forget about them fixing No Retreat wounds. It looks to me like Gaunts were designed around disposability rather than grinding and tarpitting. I mean, you can still put together a 30-Gaunt brood for only 90 points, and it'll hold up for a couple rounds. Then it dies and you bring 'em in again.

If No Retreat is still in place, it'll be a very different approach to Tyranid swarms.

Hormagaunts at 6 pts might have some offensive capacity, hopefully more than they (meaning the base models) have now.

so if warriors can be in any slot somehow, how would you make em troops? wings = fast attack, big guns = heavy, they're elite or hq normally now...

guess this means a shiney new warrior kit is on the way.

Great... I have 4-5 boxes of the old ones I still havent messed with (Im of the opinion that Warriors suck with our current codex).

Necros wrote:so if warriors can be in any slot somehow, how would you make em troops? wings = fast attack, big guns = heavy, they're elite or hq normally now...

guess this means a shiney new warrior kit is on the way.

Maybe, but I don't think it's so they can troops. If you bring a Hive tyrant the warriors can be brought as troops. I wonder if it's just one unit like a warboss or if you could bring 6 units of them. I would say the warriors would get a new box for the wings, but they've been able to get them since 3rd. That would also be alot of extra wings overall unless it was only 1 per box. What's a Zoantroph? (previous poster said you can make him out of the trygon kit)

Chapterhouse wrote:Great... I have 4-5 boxes of the old ones I still havent messed with (Im of the opinion that Warriors suck with our current codex).

75% of the units in the nid book suck,this why they're re-doing them me thinks.

They better be coming soon!

I think i've might of stumbled across what the new big beastie will be the catchen devil, or something similar. Now to randomly speculate what the other 3 are.

FlammingGaunt wrote:I think i've might of stumbled across what the new big beastie will be the catchen devil, or something similar. Now to randomly speculate what the other 3 are.

Well heres ago
they'll ive us a brand new creatue that will be able to kill tanks in shooting but at every thing eles it will suck and die.

Well heres ago
they'll ive us a brand new creatue that will be able to kill tanks in shooting but at every thing eles it will suck and die.

That deffinately wont be the larger than carnifex creature but i could see that. Kinda like the Biovore except actually good at shooting.

Necros wrote:so if warriors can be in any slot somehow, how would you make em troops? wings = fast attack, big guns = heavy, they're elite or hq normally now...

guess this means a shiney new warrior kit is on the way.

The rumor was pretty clear...they're normally HQ or Elites. Fielding a Tyrant lets you move them to Troops, just like Warbosses and Nobz. The equipment differences are with HS and FA.

If the part about them making genestealers elites unless you take a broodlord, is true. Think about it, you could have 6 squads of gene stealers with broodlords, as a troops choice, and then a further 2 more for you elite if you wanted. that would be a butt load of gene stealers if you ask me.
I dunno tho, this could be all crazy talk. Ive heard from numerous people that the next dex after SW is going to be *insert 3 different armies here*


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Biovores do SUCK at shooting. My god those things are useless IMO. Make them able to shoot AT something would help lol

I'd take 9 squads of stealers

Well heres ago
they'll ive us a brand new creatue that will be able to kill tanks in shooting but at every thing eles it will suck and die.

thats called a biovore

According to Whineseer, the book is Games Day confirmed for JANUARY 2010.

They have pictures to prove it

And now to sit back and watch people dismiss the entire book because of the cover. Ho hum.

Awful cover. Won't be buying this one. Robin Cruddace? More like captain arbitrary!

I think that about covers it.

Nicely done!

The only disappointing thing about that cover is seeing Leviathan colors again. I was hoping Hydra would be the poster child this time around.

Hmm... just a 'Fex on the cover. Nothing to indicate a new model of any type (not even a Malenthrope or Trygon in the background).

Pity.

Axyl wrote:To expand on gorgon's post:

The Plastic Trygon may have bits to make a Trygon or a Zoanthroph. Something else is also possibly buildable from the kit. More on that as i get info.

This and gorgon's quote is from this thread from the BOLS lounge
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=2215&highlight=tyranid

That sounds wrong I bet it's a Trygon or a Malanthrope.....both FW models and the base body size is the same and they already have a Zoathrope model.

Anarchyman99 wrote:That sounds wrong I bet it's a Trygon or a Malanthrope.....both FW models and the base body size is the same and they already have a Zoathrope model.

I see people saying this, but that would represent a redesign for the Malanthrope. There is a tremendous size difference between the two (see third pic below).

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/malan.htm

Not saying it wouldn't happen, just clarifying the point that the existing models really aren't at all alike.

Well at least we know its coming out in January, I think the cover is a WiP, noway thats the final cover, its very ugh.

Is someone going to change the name of this thread to replace the word "February" with "January"?
See the UK Games Day update at http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/09/40k-news-gamesday-uk-2009.html
I'm more interested in the 40K movie than the Tyranid revision.

Okay so that means that there will be a Dark Angel Blood Angels Codex probably in May or April.

I expect another SM chapter codex after nids but I could be more xenos like DE which keep getting pushed back. Also I'm disapoint in the codex cover with the bright sky but you can see some bio titians in the background there just really faded.

They've had them in background art for ages.

gorgon wrote:

Anarchyman99 wrote:That sounds wrong I bet it's a Trygon or a Malanthrope.....both FW models and the base body size is the same and they already have a Zoathrope model.

I see people saying this, but that would represent a redesign for the Malanthrope. There is a tremendous size difference between the two (see third pic below).

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/malan.htm

Not saying it wouldn't happen, just clarifying the point that the existing models really aren't at all alike.

Your 100% spot on. The height is close what if the smaller center is the Malanthrope, and you add armor plates (making the torso section larger) and longer tail parts to make it the Trygon? Just and idea....