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yeah,
I don't think this will happen. The models would need to be recut for 40k bases.

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There is definitely a continuing market for the models if not the entire game. There are piles of the Space Hulk games sitting on store shelves now, but here's someone getting nearly the full price of the game just for the Terminators on eBay.

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Panic wrote:yeah,
I don't think this will happen. The models would need to be recut for 40k bases.

Panic...
That isn't true. Tossed into the collectors section or whatever its called... or even specialist games and there would be no requisite to be 40k compatible.
   
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Tim the Biovore wrote:There probably is.

How can you have read this thread and still have no idea what you're talking about?


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BrassScorpion wrote:There is definitely a continuing market for the models if not the entire game. There are piles of the Space Hulk games sitting on store shelves now, but here's someone getting nearly the full price of the game just for the Terminators on eBay.

I think it's a pretty sure thing that sooner or later the models themselves are going to go up for sale. After all, unlike the rest of the game, the models were made by GW in-house, so they can make more of them whenever they want to, and the models themselves obviously have a great deal of desirability separate from the game.

That's why the 'chinese overruns' things doesn't work. Whatever got made in China doesn't include the whole game, so along with whatever got overrun they'd also have to acquire the plastic models and whatever else they didn't make in order to offer a complete bootleg set.

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Panic wrote:yeah,
I don't think this will happen. The models would need to be recut for 40k bases.

Panic...


Only the Genestealers. The Terminators, even with their bases, fit perfectly on 40mms.

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Platuan4th wrote:
Panic wrote:yeah,
I don't think this will happen. The models would need to be recut for 40k bases.

Panic...


Only the Genestealers. The Terminators, even with their bases, fit perfectly on 40mms.


Even better, magnetize the Termies to 40mm bases for games of 40K.

If GW sourced the various components from different factories and assembled them locally, it would be very difficult for a Chinese company to rip off the whole game.

(I quite like the idea of China being flooded with cheap pirate copies of Space Hulk translated into dodgy Mandarin.)

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Kilkrazy wrote:(I quite like the idea of China being flooded with cheap pirate copies of Space Hulk translated into dodgy Mandarin.)


Me too.

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Tim the Biovore wrote:There probably is.


How can you have read this thread and still have no idea what you're talking about?

I know what I'm talking about. I just gave a brief reply to "There is probably a palet full of them in the warehouse".

99 posts. I am greatfully shocked. And i thought half of you couldn't care less about Space Hulk.

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Bookwrack wrote:

That's why the 'chinese overruns' things doesn't work. Whatever got made in China doesn't include the whole game, so along with whatever got overrun they'd also have to acquire the plastic models and whatever else they didn't make in order to offer a complete bootleg set.


That's easy enough, all they need is a set of figures to make casts from and they'll bootleg away, just like they do for action figures and everything else you can think of.
   
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Just to wander back on topic briefly, does anyone know if legally speaking, GW are allowed / not allowed to reissue SH? So presumably they have marketed SH as a one off, limited edition but does that prevent them from going back on this at some point in the future? I can definitely see them reprinting this and selling the models too given that there is a fair degree of consumer interest about it

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They would have to make some kind of reasonably substantive change. I don't know if just dropping the egg timer would be enough. Maybe they just need to change the box art.

Of course a reprint would only matter if users were angry enough to sue GW, which seems unlikely.


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yeah,
I agree, in fact if the reprint had extra missions, it would probabily make people happy...

Panic..

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Or they could just put some mission PDF's up. That'd do.

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@ H.B.M.C. - Mission Generator is up on the GW website or are you after proper written missions with maps and stuff?

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cadbren wrote:
Bookwrack wrote:

That's why the 'chinese overruns' things doesn't work. Whatever got made in China doesn't include the whole game, so along with whatever got overrun they'd also have to acquire the plastic models and whatever else they didn't make in order to offer a complete bootleg set.


That's easy enough, all they need is a set of figures to make casts from and they'll bootleg away, just like they do for action figures and everything else you can think of.

And for that to work, the factory making the cardboard bits would also have to have plastic molding injection machinery to make something that could pass as a space hulk model. You're overlooking the fact that action figure bootlegs are probably all the results of overruns in the first place, since the equipment and molds required to make them are not exactly cheap, nor the kind of thing one would have lying around the factory.

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Bookwrack wrote:
cadbren wrote:
Bookwrack wrote:

That's why the 'chinese overruns' things doesn't work. Whatever got made in China doesn't include the whole game, so along with whatever got overrun they'd also have to acquire the plastic models and whatever else they didn't make in order to offer a complete bootleg set.


That's easy enough, all they need is a set of figures to make casts from and they'll bootleg away, just like they do for action figures and everything else you can think of.

And for that to work, the factory making the cardboard bits would also have to have plastic molding injection machinery to make something that could pass as a space hulk model. You're overlooking the fact that action figure bootlegs are probably all the results of overruns in the first place, since the equipment and molds required to make them are not exactly cheap, nor the kind of thing one would have lying around the factory.


And they used several diffent suppliers in china, for the different components. So the idea of an over run is unlikely.

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There won't be another release, or add ons, for space hulk. This has been said several dozen times in White Dwarf, in the rulebook itself, and online. I doubt, however, GW would shoot themselves in the foot like this and miss out on making money. I would not doubt seeing individual sprues, tile sets, the components themselves, etc...on direct mail order on GWs website in the near future...
   
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Flashman wrote:@ H.B.M.C. - Mission Generator is up on the GW website or are you after proper written missions with maps and stuff?


I mean actual missions. There were 4-6 new campaigns (each of 3-6 missions) in White Dwarf when 2nd Ed came out. The 2nd Ed Mission book had 18 missions in it. There were two expansions and a Campaigns book in 1st, plus more WD articles. They have more to print beyond 12 standard missions a a 'Roll Your Own Adventure' style catch-all mission. I think they should release them.

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Tim the Biovore wrote:You can talk can't you? 3 threads, each with less than ten replies.


Three threads on Dakka, anyway. Not to mention that when I usually start threads its for a specific purpose, like my most recent one, trying to find out how to get started with Battletech. I don't often need more than ten replies.

Anyway, sorry for the offense, I didn't really mean anything by what I said...but I don't really think getting a thread to four pages is enough to declare yourself a "god".

There won't be another release, or add ons, for space hulk. This has been said several dozen times in White Dwarf, in the rulebook itself, and online. I doubt, however, GW would shoot themselves in the foot like this and miss out on making money. I would not doubt seeing individual sprues, tile sets, the components themselves, etc...on direct mail order on GWs website in the near future...


One can only hope, I guess. I wouldn't be surprised to at least see the sprues end up on the website.

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