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Asherian Command wrote:I want a codex for chapters that don't follow the codex astrates. that would be awesome.

Ion Hands.


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Skal098 wrote:Salamanders, and i agree with the guy who said Guard need more dexes.

Oh hell yeah! A salamander dex would be awesome. Just imagine it - master crafted weapons everywhere, flamers for free without any limit.
And the Marines will have bits of dead dinosaur on them.

And for a price increases, tac marines could have Artificer armour.

Beast.

Hmmm I wouldn't say Tac marines. Otherwise we'll have people screaming CHEESE at the tops of their lungs all over again. As elites though it should be acceptable.

Let me rephrase that: for a STEEP price increase.

Vulkan, Chapter Tactics Version 2


In an army including Vulkan, all Flamers, Heavy Flamers, Flamestorm Cannons, Inferno Cannons( basically all flame weapons) and all melrta weapons are twinlinked, and all CCW are MC. Any model may be upgraded with artificer armour for +5pts.

Can we have an add on book that allows for extra special characters or units for different chapters? Swaps around the FOC and any other changes needed? Just a thought. Bit like codex Armaggedon did for Templars and Salamanders.

Well I reckon they will sneak blood ravens with them been popular in the Dow games.
Is like crimson fists myself. Bring back Cortez

H.B.M.C. wrote:'Counts As' misses the point completely.

How?

Asherian Command wrote:I want a codex for chapters that don't follow the codex astrates. that would be awesome.

Why?

GK's arer the only chapter who are different and unique enough for thier own codex, other chapters could be add-ons in the vanilla codex, rather than having a seperate book

if GW insisted on creating another chapter-specific codex, then salamanders would be my choice, as they have a fairamount of uniqueness

perks would still be better though

Honestly, i think there should be NO MORE marine armies. There's already too many.

But, if they HAD to, i'd go Blood Ravens or or Iron Hands.

Asherian Command wrote:I want a codex for chapters that don't follow the codex astrates. that would be awesome.

Alpha...Legion.

Void__Dragon wrote:Although I still think we have more than enough codices as it is, if one chapter were to get their own codex that doesn't already have one, it should be Iron Hands IMO.

They don't adhere to the Codex, have no Chapter Masters, and you can get some supar kewl Mechanicus goodies in it as well.

Also, Terminator Sarges? Manly.

Iron Hands have been retconned. There is a quote from their Chapter Master in Codex: Space Marines. They are codex. And Roboute Guilliman is their spiritual liege.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:Although I still think we have more than enough codices as it is, if one chapter were to get their own codex that doesn't already have one, it should be Iron Hands IMO.

They don't adhere to the Codex, have no Chapter Masters, and you can get some supar kewl Mechanicus goodies in it as well.

Also, Terminator Sarges? Manly.

Iron Hands have been retconned. There is a quote from their Chapter Master in Codex: Space Marines. They are codex. And Roboute Guilliman is their spiritual liege.

Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Probably the Iron Hands or Crimson fists, though I think the ravenguard would be a neat codex..

iproxtaco wrote:

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:Although I still think we have more than enough codices as it is, if one chapter were to get their own codex that doesn't already have one, it should be Iron Hands IMO.

They don't adhere to the Codex, have no Chapter Masters, and you can get some supar kewl Mechanicus goodies in it as well.

Also, Terminator Sarges? Manly.

Iron Hands have been retconned. There is a quote from their Chapter Master in Codex: Space Marines. They are codex. And Roboute Guilliman is their spiritual liege.

Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Don't look at me. I'm not the one who wrote Codex: Space Marines.

iproxtaco wrote:Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Doobie? A troll? You ain't been here long enough to know much about him, so don't accuse him of trolling.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Doobie? A troll? You ain't been here long enough to know much about him, so don't accuse him of trolling.

You bettar watch yor step round' these purts, boya, lest you run inti truble.
What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

iproxtaco wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Doobie? A troll? You ain't been here long enough to know much about him, so don't accuse him of trolling.

You bettar watch yor step round' these purts, boya, lest you run inti truble.
What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

Notice how you focused your entire reply solely upon the word "ain't"?

iproxtaco wrote:What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

Yes.

Heres an idea:

Codex Space Marines - Vanilla Marines

Codex Chaos Space Marines - Renegades, cultists & l&td

Codex Chaos Legions - Legion specific lists and rules

Codex Loyal Legions - BA, SW, DA, WS etc

Vaktathi wrote:Honestly? None of them truly *need* their own book, especially before they started getting all sorts of crazy wacky stuff simply to continue to justify their existence (blood talons, TWC's, Wolf Claws, etc) and massive bloat of special rules/wargear leading to the creep we've got today.

GK's are the only exception to this, so they're pretty much the only ones that really *need* their own book, as opposed to a set of traits or a sublist.

Heartily agree. It is the stupid crazy special rules that drive these books and also make me more and more annoyed with the game as things progress through the years. Grey Knights are a very distinct and different type of force to regular space marines. They start as regular marines, but are wholly different in the way they perform in battles and the types of threats they are designed to deal with.

I think the Space Marine codex version a couple back that allowed you to pick a focus and even disadvantages for your chapter which then affected where certain units fit in on the force organization chart was a really decent concept. You could build *any* of the chapters with special codex books using that book without difficulty. The only thing you couldn't do is get a bunch of super duper special rules that made blood angels (or whatever chapter) LEET... Heck if you wanted to take it a step further you could do something like the chaos plague, berserk, noise and tzeetch marines to give a specific chapter access to its supposed identifying unit.

A lot of people play space marines because they get all the love. While forces like Necrons, Eldar and Tau sit on crazy old codex books and forces like the Sisters get saddled with a WD codex, do we really need to see yet another Space Marine Chapter codex??

Skriker

somecallmeJack wrote:Heres an idea:

Codex Space Marines - Vanilla Marines

Codex Chaos Space Marines - Renegades, cultists & l&td

Codex Chaos Legions - Legion specific lists and rules

Codex Loyal Legions - BA, SW, DA, WS etc

If only. Though it'd be Codex: Founding Chapters or something for Loyal Legions.

Durza wrote:

somecallmeJack wrote:Heres an idea:

Codex Space Marines - Vanilla Marines

Codex Chaos Space Marines - Renegades, cultists & l&td

Codex Chaos Legions - Legion specific lists and rules

Codex Loyal Legions - BA, SW, DA, WS etc

If only. Though it'd be Codex: Founding Chapters or something for Loyal Legions.

Well, yeah. True. I suppose you'd need to put black templars in there so it couldn't be 'legions'.

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Doobie? A troll? You ain't been here long enough to know much about him, so don't accuse him of trolling.

You bettar watch yor step round' these purts, boya, lest you run inti truble.
What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

Notice how you focused your entire reply solely upon the word "ain't"?

No, I do not.

Weeel, I bettur just start causin' some trouble round' these parts, shake up the natural order of thangs.

iproxtaco wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Doobie? A troll? You ain't been here long enough to know much about him, so don't accuse him of trolling.

You bettar watch yor step round' these purts, boya, lest you run inti truble.
What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

Notice how you focused your entire reply solely upon the word "ain't"?

No, I do not.

Weeel, I bettur just start causin' some trouble round' these parts, shake up the natural order of thangs.

Everyone could act mature here.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

Yes.

Does that make me the young inexperienced newcomer set to cause trouble when he doesn't need it and then has to flee for his life after he messes with the local crime-lord, but is aided by gnarled cowboy who eventually dies in a shoot-out after helping young inexperienced newcomer in a training montage where they work on their horse riding and pistol skills? Who wants to be the beautiful Bar-owner's daughter who gets caught up in it all?


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iproxtaco wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Do you ever post anything that isn't an attempt to troll people?

Doobie? A troll? You ain't been here long enough to know much about him, so don't accuse him of trolling.

You bettar watch yor step round' these purts, boya, lest you run inti truble.
What's this? The Wild West? Is he the dangerous crime-lord that's slightly insane but has the town of Ceeyote in a grip of fear but whose control is slipping preferably played by Jack Nicholas, and you're the gnarled cowboy whose seen it all done it all and is offering friendly advice because he holds a long-term grudge preferably played by Morgan Freeman? If that's not an attempt to troll I better catch the next wagon outa' hur.

Notice how you focused your entire reply solely upon the word "ain't"?

No, I do not.

Weeel, I bettur just start causin' some trouble round' these parts, shake up the natural order of thangs.

Everyone could act mature here.

Could, being the important word here. You only live once, and this is the Wild West, son! *fires revolver into air.

Just throwing out that there is law back east. So dont bring any of your trouble that way.

Probably salamanders. I see tons of army lists on here so I figure they must be a pretty popular vanilla chapter.

It is not that they are popular to start with. It spawns from Vulkan's awesome rules, and many people build a Salamander list/army to match.

Deadshot wrote:It is not that they are popular to start with. It spawns from Vulkan's awesome rules, and many people build a Salamander list/army to match.

QFT

Vulkan is competitive, and that is why you see Ultramanders of doom, of people trying to incorporate Vulkan into their own chapter, he makes your army significantly stronger

Deadshot wrote:It is not that they are popular to start with. It spawns from Vulkan's awesome rules, and many people build a Salamander list/army to match.

Well then I guess it's a good thing they don't hand out codices to chapters just because they became popular due to their powerful special rules in Codex: Armageddon Space Marines...

somecallmeJack wrote:Heres an idea:

Codex Space Marines - Vanilla Marines

Codex Chaos Space Marines - Renegades, cultists & l&td

Codex Chaos Legions - Legion specific lists and rules

Codex Loyal Legions - BA, SW, DA, WS etc

Probably the most sensible post so far this thread.

Deadshot wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:I want a codex for chapters that don't follow the codex astrates. that would be awesome.

Ion Hands.

No. Most Notably, Black Templars.
For chapters that have competely different things.
Iron hands do not stray the from the codex at all.
We are talking about loyalist chapters not traitor btw.

Asherian Command wrote:

Deadshot wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:I want a codex for chapters that don't follow the codex astrates. that would be awesome.

Ion Hands.

No. Most Notably, Black Templars.
For chapters that have competely different things.
Iron hands do not stray the from the codex at all.
We are talking about loyalist chapters not traitor btw.

I personally believe the space wolves would be the most notable exception.