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Subject: Re:Arakasi Reloaded: Adventures in Martian Ironearth
@Viterbi: I think mostly I see straps highlighted both sides, and with more contrast in the highlights is all.
@JoshInJapan: It was a close call, but they seemed like they were more likely chain than fur to me, especially with the straps to hold them up/on. Doesn't make much sense - but then - this is Warhammer!
Lunkop is full of strangeness. I can’t decide what’s weirder, chainmail pants or chainmail boots. Of the 2 I think the boots would be the least comfortable, but then the risk of getting stuff caught in the links... ouch! the metal waistband can’t be that forgiving post lunch. Are those shoulder pads riveted on to him? Very Choas, which makes it even more odd that his helmet has a bad moon on it! Let the awesome retro continue!
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Subject: Arakasi Reloaded: Adventures in Martian Ironearth
@monkeytroll: I'm quite happy with the skin - skin can always be... challenging. Although my wife tells me it's too pink. This is at least the one area where I can ignore her opinion . She would also be quick to point out the apparent folly of chainmail (or any other kind of) bikini armour...
@gobert Well, I'd assume they are padded on the inside, but Warhammer, Chaos, probably not . I've painted the white down past those studs to make it look more like part of the armour than riveted on. No idea on the bad moon - but it's classic, so it stays .
Rakarth Flesh base now complete on all armour. Next - Agrax Earthshade wash and Rakarth Flesh touch up to bring the gang in line with Zarygor.
Those marauders are just excellent. So much awesome character in the old sculpts. Nothing says chaotic and scary like chainmail briefs and moon on your head. Not to mention the big feth off mace.
And you made the wise choice in going with the square bases.
FYI, if you have any more to do. A much simpler, if slightly more toxic way of cutting slots in the bases is to heat up a metal skewer and melt a slot in them. If you have a gas stove it works really well as you can just hold it under the extractor fan and not have to deal with gakky plastic fumes.
Interesting results on the colour testing. I like the lava effect. Interesting way of achieving a certain level of realism.
@monkeytroll: You always make be laugh, in your thread and now mine too . Armour should be coming together nicely - the white is complete in those photos.
@gobert: Thank you. I guess technically they are all sporting golden chainmail pants...
@Don Qui Hote: Thank you. You don't dare complain when Chaos...
@Snrub: I am enjoying painting them more than I thought. The square bases have certainly grown on me - I like to think this is the start of my Warhammer: The Old World Chaos army. I may even be ready by the time GW is . The drilling wasn't too complex, just a little time consuming. Certainly healthier, my wife... oh... you meant the fumes .
(Interesting note - Dakka obscures the swearing, but not when quoting...)
@Viterbi: Thank you. It's mostly the Citadel Colour App "Custodian Guard of the Solar Watch" scheme - although I traded Seraphim Sepia on the bone white areas for Agrax Earthshade. I just like the concept of Chaos / Evil in traditionally regal / good guy colours (and vice versa...)
And with that out of the way, step by steps in spoilers:
Layered Rakarth Flesh.
Layered two thirds 1:1 Rakarth Flesh / Pallid Wych Flesh.
Layered one third Pallid Wych Flesh.
Edge highlight 1:1 Pallid Wych Flesh / White Scar.
Edge highlight White Scar.
Base Retributor Armour, Rhinox Hide and Leadbelcher.
Wash Reikland Fleshshade, Agrax Earthshade and Nuln Oil.
Layer / drybrush Retributor Armour and Leadbelcher. Base Dryad Bark (Gladstone horns).
Half way to the deadline. Gold has now been edge highlighted (dry brushed for mail) with Stormhost Silver. Picked out all of the missing studs with Retributor Gold, and gave all a Reikland Fleshade wash. Hmmm... may have missed the Stormhost Silver edge highlight on Gladstone's sword... Still have the leathers and buckles to do, Gladstone's horns, a lot still missing on Zarygor - tops of his boots and sheathed sword on his back. At least Lunkop is pretty much done for his "clean" version.
Where to after that? Skipping the obvious (bases), I really want to dirty them up with chipping, battle damage, and a touch of dirt and rust - these aren't Stormhost after all!
I want to try tattoos on Lunkop - I'm thinking a half chaos star centred on his belly button, pointed up, and maybe a silhouette of Archaon's three-headed beast Dorghar on his back - dark blue or black? (I don't think I can to a Chaos star justice across his shoulder blades and lower back...)
If I am doing chipping, it would be nice to have some designs on the white armour - almost like a slightly different form of "tattoo". I don't think there is enough room on Zarygor, but Gladstone and defintely Cedric would have room. Half chaos stars on Cedric's pauldrons, pointed inwards, and maybe a crown of thorns on Gladstone. I want to add purple to the mix (another royal colour), so these would work in that colour I think. It will just show off the battle damage better . Zarygor's sword tassle is planned for this colour as well.
Then there is still the bloody hand print on the face, and probably blood effect on Cedric's Mace and the forward facing side of Gladstone's shield (which I imagine he is pummelling someone with - he doesn't appear to be trying to protect himself from raining arrows...)
I think that will all work out. The last big question - what to do for the eyes? Glowing red will probably be lost in the bloody hand, glowing purple adds to that royal colour, but again might be lost a bit, and end up with too much purple. Glowing green would work - but can I afford to add another primary colour? I expect if I did green, I could also match Cedric's shield's two or three eyes the same (where green gems would work while I think red or purple might not work as well, or be too much).
Green would definitely stand out well against the red hand print, probably best to get in the tattoos and armour designs before making a final decision though. Doesn't seem like it would be too busy colour-wise, but hard to say for sure until everything else is in p!ace. If it does end up too much maybe a very yellow green, or possibly just yellow?
Looking good so far, I'm miles behind on my guys. Tattoos and armour work sound great - back piece sounds tricky.
Yeah, I think green would work best if you want them to stand out. Like you say, red would be lost with the red hand print, unless it has an orange/yellow glow. Second best would be purple as it goes well with the gold and white. The gang are looking really good so far, I quite like their cleanness but chirping would add to the chaos vibe I suppose!
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Subject: Re:Arakasi Reloaded: These are not the Chaos Warriors you are looking for...
Seems the general consensus is the green, which is my preference too - we'll see how things pan out towards the end. Thanks for the input everyone!
@monkeytroll: Good advice on getting the tattoos and armour designs in before making a final decision. I worry yellow might get lost amongst the gold.
@Viterbi and @gobert: Thanks!
@JoshInJapan: It's funny what the mind thinks will and won't work sometimes. I'm not taking credit here - could have gone either way (although I wouldn't have had time to change tack...)
More progress. Cedric, Lunkop and Gladstone are pretty much "clean" complete, now that the leather straps have been (re)done. This time I based Rhinox Hide, Agrax Earthshade, then straight to Doombull brown layer on the raised areas and Tuskgor Fur edges.
Cedric is definitely my favourite for how things are turning out so far.
Then Lunkop - I think it is the skin.
Gladstone also has his horns finished - Dryad Bark base, Agrax Earthshade wash, then highlight/base going up Gorthor Brown then Baneblade Brown.
Finally lagging Zarygor. Leather boots done the same way as the leather bandages, but with an added 1:1 Rhinox Brown Doombull Brown layer after the wash. Boot and scabbard fur based Mournfang Brown, washed Agrax Earthshade, plan is to drybrush Skrag Brown, Deathclaw Brown and (as it happens) Screaming Skull.
Car issues means I haven't picked up my purple paints as planned - hopefully tomorrow. I'm going to be practising tattoo and armour designs on paper before letting loose on the models.
So, I'm trying out all of the things. My impressions are in the spoilers so that you might come to (and share) an opinion without me necessarily leading you... (as if that was possible ).
Zarygor's purple sword tassle completes his "clean" look. Well, except for the sword gem and stud I've managed to miss...
I'm quite happy with how Zarygor is looking pre weathering, bloody hand and eyes.
Practising tattoo and armour designs. Numbers represent order of attempt. After 6, just go counter clockwise . The "squares" marked by outward lines and characters are the approximate space I have to work with - Lunkop back (Lb), Lunkop front (Lf) and Gladstone head (Gh). The smallest dragon design left and chaos symbol bottom right is about where I was headed. Earlier atempts quickly suggested I would need a much, much simpler design to have any chance of getting it down to size.
Lunkop with first attempt belly, leg and back tattoos.
The Chaos star looks more like a sun than a Chaos star, but otherwise quite happy with the front. The back is harder to make out, I'm going to try going over with a slightly darker colour to "sharpen" it up... Still quite happy though.
Gladstone with Chaos Star on head.
Apart from the same issue of looking more like an asterix than a Chaos Star, this just doesn't seem to work for me. Doesn't help that from the front it looks like a bad hair piece!
Cedric sporting armour markings.
I couldn't quite work out how to apply what I wanted originally, and this isn't working for me either . It might need to be finer to work, but it's just looking "busy" in my opinion. I'm thinking I am best to forgo the armour markings entirely and save the purple for any robes or small details (like Zarygor's tassle) in the future. I had also considered doing the shoulder pads completely in purple, or checked, or with a checked border - but I just don't think it will work now, and I am running out of time. Barring some super suggestions from you good folk, I'll rely on the weathering, bloody hand and eyes to add interest.
With Lunkop maybe adding a semi-circle will bring it back to a star rather than a rising belly button sun. Back certainly hard to make out, that is a cramped space with muscles in that you're working on though.
Not feeling Gladstone at all, all I can think of for a purple touch would be a tiny star on kneepad or the horns. Star might look better on the face-plate rather than the top but you already have the hand print going there. Unless there's somewhere on the shield to add the purp!e?
Cedric might work if the star was finer, not sold on it though, I really liked those shoulders in plain white. Purple gloves might work, as he appears to have gloves rather than armour, not sure how that would affect the group look. Possibly alternate the loin strips, but again, not sure how that works with the group as no-one has any solid purple armour.
These definitely are the chaos warriors I was looking for. For shear inspiration.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14