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Necrons 2K pts. Nothing weird except that with the last 180 points I got a third HQ (best unit in the codex) as a reward for Tomb World Alpha signing an alliance with Tomb World Beta. Of course if I wanted I could also drop a couple models from somewhere and buy a fourth Annilation Barge. Remember, the downside is that... wait a minute... forget it.

Overlord with Warscythe in CCB
Overlord with Warscythe in CCB
Overlord with Warscythe in CCB
Pulsetek
Pulsetek
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
4 Wraiths
4 Wraiths
4 Wraiths
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge

pretre wrote:Teasers are not unique to GW.

I understand the concept of teasers, but most of the time teasers are about the actual product prior to release day. In other words you'd be teasing about the release on the 23rd not teasing about announcing of the sale on the 30th a week later. Its just silly.

Kanluwen wrote:
GW remembers Genestealer Cults.

It's just they likely remember how silly they were as well, with limos on the battlefield and fat guys in chairs commanding mutants with sunglasses on.

Yes, but that's cool silly. Now GW just has sad silly.

andrewm9 wrote:

pretre wrote:Teasers are not unique to GW.

I understand the concept of teasers, but most of the time teasers are about the actual product prior to release day. In other words you'd be teasing about the release on the 23rd not teasing about announcing of the sale on the 30th a week later. Its just silly.

Yep, most of the time they are.

Kanluwen wrote:
GW remembers Genestealer Cults.

It's just they likely remember how silly they were as well, with limos on the battlefield and fat guys in chairs commanding mutants with sunglasses on.

Yes because nothing else in 40K IS or has been silly...

The core concepts and fluff of genestealer cults is very grimdark and a cool concept that fits perfectly int he 40K setting.

An updated look and image could be easily achieved.

Your post is a fail...

Therion wrote:Necrons 2K pts. Nothing weird except that with the last 180 points I got a third HQ (best unit in the codex) as a reward for Tomb World Alpha signing an alliance with Tomb World Beta. Of course if I wanted I could also drop a couple models from somewhere and buy a fourth Annilation Barge. Remember, the downside is that... wait a minute... forget it.

Overlord with Warscythe in CCB
Overlord with Warscythe in CCB
Overlord with Warscythe in CCB
Pulsetek
Pulsetek
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
5 Warriors in Night Scythe
4 Wraiths
4 Wraiths
4 Wraiths
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge

You got an extra CCB lord, assuming allies let you ally with your own army....oh noes.

Therion wrote:Necrons 2K pts. Nothing weird except that with the last 180 points I got a third HQ (best unit in the codex) as a reward for Tomb World Alpha signing an alliance with Tomb World Beta. Of course if I wanted I could also drop a couple models from somewhere and buy a fourth Annilation Barge. Remember, the downside is that... wait a minute... forget it.

You're assuming that you'll be allowed to ally with other versions of your own army.

Edit: STOP NINJA-ING ME MAELSTROM

andrewm9 wrote:

pretre wrote:Teasers are not unique to GW.

I understand the concept of teasers, but most of the time teasers are about the actual product prior to release day. In other words you'd be teasing about the release on the 23rd not teasing about announcing of the sale on the 30th a week later. Its just silly.

I don't think you do understand the concept of teasers, actually.

Teasers are done far in advance of the product being available. They are usually 20-30 seconds and interspersed with very little in the way of "meat" for the product/film/tv show/whatever being teased.
The actual trailers usually start showing after the product is made available to purchase, through preorder or going to the shop.

Infinite_Array wrote:Yes, but that's cool silly. Now GW just has sad silly.

I hope you're being sarcastic; because I can see no real way in which a fat man in a chair surrounded by mutants with sunglasses and limos is "cool" or really making an allied force to Tyranids seem plausibly neat.

Gorechild wrote:

Therion wrote:Necrons 2K pts. Nothing weird except that with the last 180 points I got a third HQ (best unit in the codex) as a reward for Tomb World Alpha signing an alliance with Tomb World Beta. Of course if I wanted I could also drop a couple models from somewhere and buy a fourth Annilation Barge. Remember, the downside is that... wait a minute... forget it.

You're assuming that you'll be allowed to ally with other versions of your own army.

Edit: STOP NINJA-ING ME MAELSTROM

CT GAMER wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
GW remembers Genestealer Cults.

It's just they likely remember how silly they were as well, with limos on the battlefield and fat guys in chairs commanding mutants with sunglasses on.

Yes because nothing else in 40K IS or has been silly...

The core concepts and fluff of genestealer cults is very grimdark and a cool concept that fits perfectly in the 40K setting.

You'll notice I didn't say the "concept and fluff of genestealer cults is silly".

An updated look and image could be easily achieved.

Sure it can--but not as a part of the rulebook release.

As part of the Tyranid book being redone? Sure.

You got an extra CCB lord, assuming allies let you ally with your own army....oh noes.

You think it's no big deal of course. I think it's a rule we didn't need in the game. It's only used to break the FOC and get more of whatever that is cheesy.

Grey Knight 2K pts. Because they need help.

-Inquisitor Torquemada Coteaz
-5 Company Command, 3 Meltaguns, Chimera
-5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, Psyback
-5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, Psyback
-5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, Psyback
-10 Veterans, 3 Meltaguns, Chimera
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-1 Vendetta, Heavy Bolter Sponsons
-3 Hydra Flak Tanks
-1 Psyrifleman
-1 Psyrifleman
-1 Psyrifleman

FYI that abomination above is the best army in the game. It also uses the new psychic shizzle.

Kanluwen wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:
An updated look and image could be easily achieved.

Sure it can--but not as a part of the rulebook release.

As part of the Tyranid book being redone? Sure.

The point is, they don't need to update them in-game at all - the background just needs to be there to justify a Tyranid/IG or Tyranid/Ork, or Tyranid/Tau alliance - they don't need to make new models or make a new army list or anything, they just need to say "Tyranids can ally with these races, because Cults" - it'll be up to the gamers if they want to convert models or expand the background for why the alliance exists, GW just have to allow it.

Kanluwen wrote:

Infinite_Array wrote:Yes, but that's cool silly. Now GW just has sad silly.

I hope you're being sarcastic; because I can see no real way in which a fat man in a chair surrounded by mutants with sunglasses and limos is "cool" or really making an allied force to Tyranids seem plausibly neat.

I think it's because I play Skorne, and one of the Warlocks I happen to like is this guy:


So, fat guys in chairs is apparently something I can get behind.

The new trailer is significantly (ie pretty much infinitely) better than the last one.

Still some fairly pants explosion sound effects, but I liked the music and pictures; kind of stirred my interest.

Chatlog rumors said the foc doubles at 2000+ points. That is probably why the white dwarf batrep has 3 hqs and 4 heavies in an army. I doubt allies buffs an army's foc slots but rather uses them up.

Charax wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

I'd even put money down on Tyranids getting at least 1 ally.

I wouldn't. The only way you'll see something even remotely close to Tyranids "allying" is that old method of "Two enemies fighting in the same time/place".

Genestealer cults exist in Human, Ork and Tau societies, and they fight alongside Tyranids in the early stages of an invasion (before they get nommed for biofuel)

Not that I imagine for one moment GW will actually remember this, or acknowledge it in rules form

Actually, cults have popped up in Eldar societies too.

EVERYONE LOVES THE FOUR ARMED FATHER.

tetrisphreak wrote:Chatlog rumors said the foc doubles at 2000+ points. That is probably why the white dwarf batrep has 3 hqs and 4 heavies in an army. I doubt allies buffs an army's foc slots but rather uses them up.

DOUBLES?

Like there isn't enough Chimeras running around with meltas bristling out of them....

I'd like 18 Hydra Flak Tanks please.

CT GAMER wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
GW remembers Genestealer Cults.

It's just they likely remember how silly they were as well, with limos on the battlefield and fat guys in chairs commanding mutants with sunglasses on.

Yes because nothing else in 40K IS or has been silly...

The core concepts and fluff of genestealer cults is very grimdark and a cool concept that fits perfectly int he 40K setting.

An updated look and image could be easily achieved.

Your post is a fail...

In fairness to him it's not an army that can be represented by a "mix of tyranids and IG" without very stringent limitations on the units that can be taken. The moment something other than a genestealer shows up it stops being a cult army. The cult doesn't fight for the swarm, they destabilize the world before it shows up. When it shows up they just sort of die.

AethyrKnight wrote:I haven't seen this here yet, but apparently its a scan of the psychic powers chart for 6th edition. Seems legit, and matches the powers in the DH rp etc:

I think Hermanes de Batalla translates as Sisters of battle (who get no psychic powers). So I guess they'll be in the rulebook as a normal seperate army. Guess that means they're definetly not being squatted.

Therion wrote:

You got an extra CCB lord, assuming allies let you ally with your own army....oh noes.

You think it's no big deal of course. I think it's a rule we didn't need in the game. It's only used to break the FOC and get more of whatever that is cheesy.

FYI that thing above is the best army in the game. It also uses the new psychic shizzle.

You assume I think it's no big deal because I play Necrons. I say it's no big deal because using the allies rule to simply add more FOC slots to your own army doesn't change the overall balance because at that point everyone can do the same thing and use the same process to take another counter to what you add.

Your Grey Knight list is a slightly better example of what can happen with allies, but still misses the point. Taking a top tier army and slapping units from another army in it doesn't do a whole lot, especially when that army could probably make a better list just by using the points within it's own codex.

The problem that can happen with allies is when you take a mid-tier army and shore up it's weaknesses with units from other dexes to make it a top tier army, while at the same time another mid-tier army that doesn't have access to any decent allies is left out in the cold.

ShumaGorath wrote:In fairness to him it's not an army that can be represented by a "mix of tyranids and IG" without very stringent limitations on the units that can be taken. The moment something other than a genestealer shows up it stops being a cult army. The cult doesn't fight for the swarm, they destabilize the world before it shows up. When it shows up they just sort of die.

Tyranid Prime converted up as a Cult Broodlord.
Primaris Psyker as a Magus from IG.
Genestealer broods as troops.
Penal Legion hybrids.
Brood Brother IG squads.
Chimera-Limos.


See where we go here?

This artwork makes me wet. Its like all of 40k condensed into one little picture.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:This artwork makes me wet. Its like all of 40k condensed into one little picture.

I agree, more of this art style please!
Less scribbley please.

Just Dave wrote:tely random 2D6" charge rumored in 6th. This is a silly complaint, because in 40k, you already get the 6" of movement in the movement phase, so there is a minimum charge distance.

I disagree with the 2D6" being a buff.

I feel that the chance of your unit rolling low and being stranded in the open outweighs a potentially longer assault range (whilst the average is only 7", compared to the current 6" anyway).
I like your idea of making units more than 12" away have to think about their options, but I don't think the action of sitting and shooting will change. I believe the chance that you'll move your assault unit into Rapid Fire or counter-charge range, only for them to be unable to charge is too big a loss compared to the potentially increased charge range.

Arguably, I shouldn't really be complaining as a Space Wolf player, as the buffs to rapid fire and [arguable] nerf to assaulting benefits my Wolves, who receive a charge, rather than commit one. This will be even nastier if Counter-charge can combine with Snap Fire...

Maelstrom808 wrote: You assume I think it's no big deal because I play Necrons. I say it's no big deal because using the allies rule to simply add more FOC slots to your own army doesn't change the overall balance because at that point everyone can do the same thing and use the same process to take another counter to what you add.

Your Grey Knight list is a slightly better example of what can happen with allies, but still misses the point. Taking a top tier army and slapping units from another army in it doesn't do a whole lot, especially when that army could probably make a better list just by using the points within it's own codex.

The problem that can happen with allies is when you take a mid-tier army and shore up it's weaknesses with units from other dexes to make it a top tier army, while at the same time another mid-tier army that doesn't have access to any decent allies is left out in the cold.

For instance, if Orks were to get IG as an Ally.
I'd take nothing but meltavets.
Finally Orks have a viable anti-tank!

Therion wrote:-Inquisitor Torquemada Coteaz
-5 Company Command, 3 Meltaguns, Chimera
-5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, Psyback
-5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, Psyback
-5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, Psyback
-10 Veterans, 3 Meltaguns, Chimera
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-3 Warriors, Psyback
-1 Vendetta, Heavy Bolter Sponsons
-3 Hydra Flak Tanks
-1 Psyrifleman
-1 Psyrifleman
-1 Psyrifleman

I admit this looks absolutely broken under the current rules, but let's wait and see how valuable metal boxes will be in 6th.

Then again, just adding some Vendettas should be enough to break any list.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:This artwork makes me wet. Its like all of 40k condensed into one little picture.

where's that from and what is it of? the palace?

From the teaser vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKi6Y5EFRIA&feature=player_embedded


I would guess its on Terra somewhere. Then again, it could be any shrine world ever

Yea, looks like some kind of procession at the imperial palace.

*GASP* What if it's people honoring the death of the Emprah?!

Doubt it. If it is supposed to be the palace im afraid its entirely too small in scope and scale for my tastes.