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 Commander Cain wrote:
I don't think there is much chance of getting the LE figures for cheaper on Dakka seeing as the only reason people would be wanting to sell them is if they bought extras for that very purpose! Trading the troopers or strain however will probably work out well though I will probably hang onto everything myself.

I got x2 of each for that very reason, and they'll be going to the highest bidder

 zedmeister wrote:
If you buy the THI suits or strain models in the uk direct, they are resin. If you buy them from CMON, they are metal...

But the box ones are plastic, right?

I Really like those... wish they hadn't been $15 apiece for plastic, though, or I would have sprung for some already through the kickstarter. Would be great counts-as terminators, I think, but at that price they're more expensive than the official models.

Might be worth it, but I want to see some in-person before I commit at that price!

ephrael wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

That is exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned it in the first place. I am really interested in picking up the big "armored suit" models personally and would be willing to trade for them or pay a reasonable price. I really don't want the hassle of trying to snag one from ebay. I guess we'll see what happens when the stuff gets delivered and people decide what they want to do with their miniatures.

The Gnosis suit (the sword-wielding one added as a stretch goal) is kickstarter-only right now, but if you mean the THI suits (the industrial ones that already exist in metal), I understand that those are going to be a normally-released product, so you won;t have to get them on Ebay.

I didn't realize that the THI suit was the same as the metal sculpt available already so that's not so important to me in plastic. The Gnosis suit is the one I really would like to have and I would realistically be willing to pay up to $75-80 for one if I had to. I would rather pay around $30 as that's what it probably cost to get in the first place I think. Honestly I don't have the time or the ability to travel around to conventions to try to buy the models from Mike and his team. I would love to meet the man and his wife in person as I have been a fan of their work for a very long time but alas I must continue to admire them from afar.

It was actually a $25 addon.....

Best of luck picking this model up for under $100, Mike's stuff has a way of pileing on the value.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

ephrael wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

That is exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned it in the first place. I am really interested in picking up the big "armored suit" models personally and would be willing to trade for them or pay a reasonable price. I really don't want the hassle of trying to snag one from ebay. I guess we'll see what happens when the stuff gets delivered and people decide what they want to do with their miniatures.

The Gnosis suit (the sword-wielding one added as a stretch goal) is kickstarter-only right now, but if you mean the THI suits (the industrial ones that already exist in metal), I understand that those are going to be a normally-released product, so you won;t have to get them on Ebay.

I didn't realize that the THI suit was the same as the metal sculpt available already so that's not so important to me in plastic. The Gnosis suit is the one I really would like to have and I would realistically be willing to pay up to $75-80 for one if I had to. I would rather pay around $30 as that's what it probably cost to get in the first place I think. Honestly I don't have the time or the ability to travel around to conventions to try to buy the models from Mike and his team. I would love to meet the man and his wife in person as I have been a fan of their work for a very long time but alas I must continue to admire them from afar.

It was actually a $25 addon.....

Best of luck picking this model up for under $100, Mike's stuff has a way of pileing on the value.

Really though, there's a bit more of that Gnosis suit out there than most of Mike's other stuff... the gnosis suit came free with every biohazard set, remember?
hey, I'd have one for sale at $45 no problem. Really, $100? that's never going to happen. But hey, if you'd wanna pay that for a gnosis suit, drop me a line, bro

 DaveC wrote:

Undecided (may or may not get a general release, CMON doesn't seem keen to put these on general release)
Mini Drones
Bone Crabs
Cyber Akosha
Biohazard Morgan
Gnosis Kara
Aphid Suit Barker
Jada Lily

The THI suit will get a retail release with a later expansion

I guess it depends (to an extent) on how much control CMON have versus McVey.


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ephrael wrote:
I'm kind of starting to hope that there will be a thread started where people who backed the KS will come together in one topic to trade and sell the exclusive/alternate sculpts they don't want. That will give the rest of us the opportunity to obtain the models we missed out on without getting royally gouged on ebay or some other site. I'm sure that the bonds of Brotherhood and Respect we all share as proud members of this community will shine through and most everyone will end up satisfied in the end.

In exactly the same way that it didn't happen for Zombicide!


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 Fenriswulf wrote:
I really really wish this would just ship already. I am moving in 3 weeks, and I just know it won't be here in Australia before then...

Get it sent to your parents place or work - something that's a stable addy.

ephrael wrote:
I'm kind of starting to hope that there will be a thread started where people who backed the KS will come together in one topic to trade and sell the exclusive/alternate sculpts they don't want. That will give the rest of us the opportunity to obtain the models we missed out on without getting royally gouged on ebay or some other site. I'm sure that the bonds of Brotherhood and Respect we all share as proud members of this community will shine through and most everyone will end up satisfied in the end.

In exactly the same way that it didn't happen for Zombicide!

The only promos received for Zombicide so far are the 3 original bonus characters and they were strictly 1 provided per copy of the game so no-one had spares. Once we get to the next wave with the promos we could buy multiple copies of you should see more trading

Well with a bit of luck the boat for the UK should have hit or is about to hit the dockside so not much longer to wait.

I hope that doesn't happen literally.... (images of lots of gypsy-types walking away from the shattered remains of the boat, holding 5-6 boxes of Sedition Wars each.... )

 Pacific wrote:
I hope that doesn't happen literally.... (images of lots of gypsy-types walking away from the shattered remains of the boat, holding 5-6 boxes of Sedition Wars each.... )

I'm imagining a Jurassic park 2 situation. Where it turns out they were also storing a T-Rex onboard the ship alongside all out sedition wars boxes. "There's a T-Rex loose on the streets but we need to get these boxes to backers! Priorities... Priorities...!"

New update from CMON

Shipping non-update: Proceeding as planned
Update #72 · Dec. 28, 2012 · comment

It appears it'll bring holiday cheer to some of you to know that there hasn't been any change from our previous update. We still expect to receive containers for Europe on the 4th of January (Friday) which means that games will begin shipping out realistically the following Monday (one day to unload the container, inventory everything and set up the line etc).

The container for the Biohazard bonus items has yet to arrive at our warehouse in the USA so since today is already Friday, it's probably not going to hit us until next week, which would mean the earliest realistic shipping date would be the 2nd. If you're of the anxious bent, a safe shipping date for both the USA and Europe would be 7th of January to start shipping, and with shipping complete that week.

Now, for those of you who have never logged in to the pledge manager to confirm your pledge and/or still need to make payments for shipping and extras, please do so as soon as you can (https://ckpm.coolminiornot.com). We'll try to squeeze you into the first wave of stuff going out if you can respond quickly enough, if not your rewards will ship out later in January on a weekly basis.

Sigh,

DaveC and his magic time traveling tablet beat me again

(that said the fact that there are really folk who PAID but never bothered giveing a shipping address or selecting their stuff in the pledge manager? Weird, hope they are OK)

It appears it'll bring holiday cheer to some of you to know that there hasn't been any change from our previous update.

Huh... I guess he didn't want to provide an update but people were asking for it. Seems there are a lot of nicer "holiday" ways to say it's almost arrived!

The CM people aren't great on the old customer service, are they?

Good lord, I'd skimmed over that the first time around but really, that is so horrible it's almost funny again. almost.
Still, for what I've seen from ZC (not a backer myself, but followed the thread) it seems that however brusque and impolite they might be, they do deliver and when problems arrive, they do resolve them.
Really, I don't like the attitude either but so far, they've been good where it actually matters.

Well, they only got a million dollars, so there's really no reason to be polite to anyone.

To be fair, they're not really all that rude - they just don't have the first clue about how to deal with customers professionally. Really, I've seen worse and as long as the product keeps being fine everytime, I don't really mind all that much.
However, it is of course entirely up to you to be offended if you prefer - wouldn't blame you in this case.

yeah,
I think that's entirely accurate..
Honestly they behave like children;
I asked for and received a refund because of their cavalier attitude towards their kickstarter backers, to which end they then goaded me to a worldwide audience with a ‘don’t panic’ email.
For me it’s a bitter pill to swallow, dealing with them to access this McVey project.

To me it seems that they believe they are doing us a favour by hosting these kickstarters!

Panic…

They also titled it "Shipping non-update"... Lol

Still, I feel better about it now that I realize it's CMON who made that update, not McVey. That would've been really disappointing!

Maybe I have thicker skin but I don't see it as offensive. People are clamoring and they posted an update that states there is no update. Meh. I'm looking forward to my toys arriving.

 scipio.au wrote:
The CM people aren't great on the old customer service, are they?

Have to say this as someone who likes Cool Mini or not's products and support towards smaller companies.

Their customer service is gawd fahkin awful!

Email them about your 150+ dollar refund you have been expecting for a few day to their provided email address regarding issues with orders?

yup, did that for about 6 weeks.

Turns out you have to sign up for the forums and contact one of them on the forum.

Then you have to wait about 10 days for the reply.

I understand they are not the size of GW, FFG or PP, but surely they can afford to pay someone as a customer service rep to take care of such issues and not have to PM one of the owners of CMoN.

I had some issues with the CMON customer service for my original Super Dungeon Explore pre-order and after raising a few ruckuses and getting 3 separate assurances that they'd fixed the issue, they still got my address wrong. Luckily I had a smart mailman.

All that said, I really don't see what the issue is with the non-update. People whinge when they have nothing to report and don't give updates, then they whinge when there's nothing to report and they tell us that. It's all a bit out of CMON's control at this point, so I can't really see more communication as a bad thing. It wouldn't surprise me if the email was mostly about getting those people who hadn't responded yet to get their butts in gear. The "everything's still the same, carry on" I'd think was mostly to placate the people clamoring for more updates after the dearth immediately following the project being funded.

There's a difference between "No new updates, please double check your pledge forms as we have some backers that haven't filled them out." and what they sent. One is common customer service wording, the other is intentionally confrontational.

I don't care about it really, but I recognize that there's an issue.

It will get here when it will get here, they sky is not falling! I just dont want them to rush things and get stuff wrong, would rather it be late and right then on time and wrong (obviously I would prefer right and on time but oh well). I feel Mantic rushed to get Dreadball out before Christmas as some of the mold lines on the figures are horrendous! if they took there time and released it after Christmas they may of not had this problem.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Maybe I have thicker skin but I don't see it as offensive. People are clamoring and they posted an update that states there is no update. Meh. I'm looking forward to my toys arriving.

Me too to be honest. Thanks for the 'update', reminding me I exist as a customer, erm... that's it right? Got some Dreadball teams to put together in the meantime

It appears it'll bring holiday cheer to some of you to know that there hasn't been any change from our previous update.

Does that really seem like a smart way to go about updating your customer base?

Sure, they may be upset about another blown ship date, but it seems as if they could have handled that differently and still been able to get the info out there.

Combine that with the overall lack of updates once the project was funded, and the infamous "Don't Panic!" email and you've got a bit of a disconnect going on.

This 'update' is an update. Since the previous update, which is over a week old, stated:

Just thought you'd like to know that we've just received all the Sedition Wars base game in the USA and are waiting on the container of the Biohazard packs to hit us shortly - we might get some stuff shipped before 2012 is done, but if not shipping will begin as soon as possible in the New Year.

I think they should let us know that the 'shortly' has not happened yet (over a week later) and that they obviously could not ship product yet as a result.

If there is a further delay that means the 7 Jan 2013 date won't work, I hope they update us about that when they know it, not a couple weeks past the date. I also hope they give an update that says 'The containers have arrived and we are on track to ship by ___________ .'

It is probably just me but a 'Nothing significant to report' or a 'Still on track' update is always better than no communications. I know in army units I served in a lot of reports were periodical, and there are good reasons for it.

As for tone/perceived rudeness, I can handle that as long as I am getting updated, though it does annoy me and is likely to influence future business with a company.

I am glad they sent out the email, as it now confirmed for me that it would likely be sent late for non-US or EU customers like myself. Changed my address and I am good to go.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I am glad they sent out the email, as it now confirmed for me that it would likely be sent late for non-US or EU customers like myself. Changed my address and I am good to go.

Such is the value of regular communication. I've just moved, myself. The sarcastic/surly tone they tend to use really doesn't help anyone in these situations. Reminds me of a game shop owner I know who regularly complains about "gamers".

It sounds to me like someone who is very tired/at the end of their tether, but yes I agree they possibly should have had a good nights sleep before making the email!

 scipio.au wrote:

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I am glad they sent out the email, as it now confirmed for me that it would likely be sent late for non-US or EU customers like myself. Changed my address and I am good to go.

Such is the value of regular communication. I've just moved, myself. The sarcastic/surly tone they tend to use really doesn't help anyone in these situations. Reminds me of a game shop owner I know who regularly complains about "gamers".

Is it somewhere along the lines of how they're impatient and impossible to please? Something along those lines?

They shouldn't have to give a "no update" update.

They've provided updates when things have changed. That SHOULD be enough. But with gamers, it doesn't ever seem to be. They want to see this shipped as much as the backers do.

Edit: Nevermind the fact that the gaming community seems to steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that stuff just takes a bit longer during the holidays.