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GW is having no issue selling the new book.

From GW:

Death From The Skies

**STOP PRESS**
Due to exceptional demand Death From The Skies is out of stock. We will make this book available to purchase as soon as we are able, in the meantime please keep checking back on this product page for any updates.

@byte first of all that news has been reported on the previous page. Secondly we don't know how large the first print run was so very difficult to judge wether this is a success or not.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
@byte first of all that news has been reported on the previous page. Secondly we don't know how large the first print run was so very difficult to judge wether this is a success or not.

The "link" was, not the "statement" for those click challenged(unless I missed it).

It's actually just a conspiracy by the Blood Angel and Grey Knights players. If we buy all the copies then we are still the only ones who can field a Stormraven.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Secondly we don't know how large the first print run was so very difficult to judge wether this is a success or not.

Assuming that they printed enough in the first production run to make back their investment plus some degree of profit, we'd have to assume that selling out their stock is a success. No?

Whether or not future production runs will sell remains to be seen. No one has received their book and reviewed it, yet. I believe, anyway.

 Byte wrote:
The "link" was, not the "statement" for those click challenged(unless I missed it).

It was. And you missed it. 2 posts and 36 minutes earlier.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Byte wrote:
The "link" was, not the "statement" for those click challenged(unless I missed it).

It was. And you missed it. 2 posts and 36 minutes earlier.

Ahhh I see it, Kronk posted it in a little box deal.

*hangs head*

The hilarity continues, there's an errata out.....

Still, sigh of relief for those GK players worried that the Stormraven had moved to HS.

 Byte wrote:
Ahhh I see it, Kronk posted it in a little box deal.
*hangs head*

"Strike second! Strike hard! No regret!"

Bartali wrote:
The hilarity continues, there's an errata out.....

Still, sigh of relief for those GK players worried that the Stormraven had moved to HS.

Covered in this 3 page thread.

They're mostly flier updates...

/tinfoil hat

We know GW (or more appropriately GW's investors) like smooth, stable income and growth. I wonder if enough books were sold to make this month's data point fall in line with a pretty curve, and then "sold out". More books will be printed when the numbers need to be boosted. And by printed, I mean the boxes in the warehouse will be added to inventory to be sold.

I don't have a problem with GW selling a compendium of rules. We have been asking for a legal way to get stuff from the OOP WDs, and this is it. I do have a problem with just pointing the FAQs at a compendium book.

I have no interest in fielding the storm raven, and will continue to field my talon with the old WD rules.

Well the information we will need confirmed when things actually begin getting into people's hands:

*What has actually 'changed' if anything from each of the WD/digi rule printings. If the rules haven't changed except for 6th edition erratta (in the case of the orks where they added the part about figher ace hitting Flyers) then it isn't an update.

*If/When the Digi codexes stealth update to include the new rules like they have in the past. I have the Digi Ork rules, so if there is a way to 'tell' if there are changes, I will be glad to try to keep an eye out for them. If there are no changes, and exactly the same as the Ork Digi update, then we may not see or need a digital update.

@nkelsch according to GW customer service they currently have no plans to update the digital codex's with these rules. I've asked for further clarification and if I get a response I will post it.

 kronk wrote:

Bartali wrote:
The hilarity continues, there's an errata out.....

Still, sigh of relief for those GK players worried that the Stormraven had moved to HS.

Covered in this 3 page thread.

They're mostly flier updates...

No, there is an actual Death From the Skies errata on GW's website now.

Bartali wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Bartali wrote:
The hilarity continues, there's an errata out.....

Still, sigh of relief for those GK players worried that the Stormraven had moved to HS.

Covered in this 3 page thread.

They're mostly flier updates...

No, there is an actual Death From the Skies errata on GW's website now.

Yep. Absolute hilarity...

Link to Death from the Skies

Only has the one entry.

Page 68 – Army List, Stormraven Gunship, Grey Knights
Stormraven Gunship.
Change first sentence to read ‘Stormravens in detachments
chosen from Codex: Grey Knights are Fast Attack and must
replace their stormstrike missiles with mindstrike missiles
(pg 64).

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
@nkelsch according to GW customer service they currently have no plans to update the digital codex's with these rules. I've asked for further clarification and if I get a response I will post it.

Until someone gets the book and can actually see what is in it we don't know if 'there are no plans' or if 'there is no need'.

The Digital difference from the WD was basically the 6th edition errata. If all the Skies of death book has is a printed version of the WD rules with the 6th errata, then it isn't actually different from the digital rules, just from the WD rules which already needed errata. Also, we will see if the SM digi codex will update too, or if there is nothing to udpate.

They have been so amazingly good about their digital stealth updates, I would actually be surprised if they started letting digi codexes go out of date this fast.

nice job gw, at least this time they mixed their mistake before we got the book

nkelsch wrote:


They have been so amazingly good about their digital stealth updates, I would actually be surprised if they started letting digi codexes go out of date this fast.

Unlike their Army Builder then? Not to be facetious but GW do have form in this area. I wouldn't like to call whether they will/won't update their digital codexes but let's not be blind to the fact that they have set precedent for this sort of thing in the past. Once bitten, twice shy and all that....

That being said, I very much doubt that GW keep the expertise to code their digital codexes/Apple apps in house. Chances are they contract that sort of thing out to an outside developer and that can have a big bearing on when something gets updated because the company that wrote the app might not have the availability to update it within the timelines that GW want.

You would think that having updates roll out at the same time as these 0.5 version rule updates would be a great way to promote and sell more digital codexes. After all the physical book can (and has) go out of stock but it's pretty difficult to run out of a digital product.

Yeah, I really like Enemies of the Imperium.
And because I used Dark Eldar, it was good for use all the way through to 2010.

I wonder if I'd be able to go back and hack it now.... update it.

nkelsch wrote:

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
@nkelsch according to GW customer service they currently have no plans to update the digital codex's with these rules. I've asked for further clarification and if I get a response I will post it.

Until someone gets the book and can actually see what is in it we don't know if 'there are no plans' or if 'there is no need'.

The Digital difference from the WD was basically the 6th edition errata. If all the Skies of death book has is a printed version of the WD rules with the 6th errata, then it isn't actually different from the digital rules, just from the WD rules which already needed errata. Also, we will see if the SM digi codex will update too, or if there is nothing to udpate.

They have been so amazingly good about their digital stealth updates, I would actually be surprised if they started letting digi codexes go out of date this fast.

Since we know that the C: SM now gets Stormravens and they aren't currently in the digital codex, there is guaranteed to be more in this book than the WD rules.
GW not updating the digital codex would be insanely dumb. Which means they aren't going to do it.

I got mine sent today. I am curious about what changes there are inside, still hoping...

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
You would think that having updates roll out at the same time as these 0.5 version rule updates would be a great way to promote and sell more digital codexes. After all the physical book can (and has) go out of stock but it's pretty difficult to run out of a digital product.

You are wrong, because each digital copy is on a mono-use usb pen, they will eventually run out of usb pens. lol

From GW's White Dwarf Daily:

Due to exceptional demand Death From The Skies is out of stock - it has quite literally flown off the shelves in our warehouse. Never fear though, because the print servitors have already set to work on a new print run - we'll let you
know on the product page and here on White Dwarf Daily as soon as the book becomes available again.

Bartali wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Bartali wrote:
The hilarity continues, there's an errata out.....

Still, sigh of relief for those GK players worried that the Stormraven had moved to HS.

Covered in this 3 page thread.

They're mostly flier updates...

No, there is an actual Death From the Skies errata on GW's website now.

The best part of the pdf? The footer, as it says "WARHAMMER 1 40,000: DARK ANGELS"

After eeading tons of messages on this string. I must say I like the way games workshop supports there game and enjoy this hobby immensly. I for one hope this gets reprinted soon so I can get my copy.

 mikhaila wrote:

I find it less than thrilling. I had customers asking for the book this week. I spent a couple of hours on the phone with people at GW US, trying for anything. Don't care if I'm not getting it, just please tell me what to tell my customers. They all lied. Pretending they didn't know.

GW is pulling blisters out of US stores, taking away products we used to sell. Keeping us in the dark. Not giving us new releases. Our big information tool is going to always be late. I'm cutting my orders for White Dwarf again.

Sad days from what it used to. They don't care.

Mikhaila, when did you ask the rep at GW about this? The book wasn't "officially" announced till this Saturday. You may know about the book and the rep may know about the book, but if the rep talks about the book before the "official" date, he could get fired.

Still it sounds like GW's store support is going down the drain. You were typically the voice of reason in these type of threads.

Well, doesn't matter to much to me, dumped my GW stock a couple weeks ago.

silent25 wrote:

 mikhaila wrote:

I find it less than thrilling. I had customers asking for the book this week. I spent a couple of hours on the phone with people at GW US, trying for anything. Don't care if I'm not getting it, just please tell me what to tell my customers. They all lied. Pretending they didn't know.

GW is pulling blisters out of US stores, taking away products we used to sell. Keeping us in the dark. Not giving us new releases. Our big information tool is going to always be late. I'm cutting my orders for White Dwarf again.

Sad days from what it used to. They don't care.

Mikhaila, when did you ask the rep at GW about this? The book wasn't "officially" announced till this Saturday. You may know about the book and the rep may know about the book, but if the rep talks about the book before the "official" date, he could get fired.

Still it sounds like GW's store support is going down the drain. You were typically the voice of reason in these type of threads.

Well, doesn't matter to much to me, dumped my GW stock a couple weeks ago.

Pretty sure that's his point, its hard to support his customers when the whole thing is a big "secret". GW approach on this is nonsense, but that isn't any new news.

Customer Service is telling people that the next print run should be ready in 2-3 weeks.

I don't understand all the hate. Everyone was wishing that GW came out with Chapter approved again and now that they do something like this along the same lines people are still pissed off what gives?

I am only pissed that I can't order now that it's out of stock and have to wait.

 General_Chaos wrote:
I don't understand all the hate. Everyone was wishing that GW came out with Chapter approved again and now that they do something like this along the same lines people are still pissed off what gives?

I am only pissed that I can't order now that it's out of stock and have to wait.

I'll summarize the thread for you:

-It puts FLGS at a disadvantage since it's direct only. Many people are more loyal to their FLGS than GW so there is some defensive backlash.
-Only in English and is required for all peoples that play this game if they want to use the items listed. Under the Spanish FAQ, for instance, it says to reference Death From The Skies which is only in English
-The book being direct only and only in English means it's less accessible which makes tournament players annoyed (one of the main reasons FW isn't allowed in most tournaments is rules accessibility)
-GW takin my monies! (the idea that the rules are in a book and not free are just a minor annoyance really)