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With the small 5-man Squads in immolators, i think the main tactic is to jump out and serve a purpose immediately, ie: Jump out onto an objective and hold or jump out and deal damage.

If it's dealing damage, then firepower is the most important, or do you think that squad with priest will deal much more damage in the assault phase? Then enemy's turn and i'm sure that squad is gone.

If it's for securing objectives, and the enemy maneuvers a Close Combat Squad to charge you, then i would think it's a squad that gets the job done.

In both cases, the priest would not really have any use at all, apart from the Securing Case, and the enemy charges you with 5 marines or something (which would be quite rare imo)

I would agree with most of that except the jump out part. You don't want to leave your vehicle unless absolutely necessary. You can score from inside it anyways.

Yeah, rhinos have two fire points, a BSS can take a heavy and special weapon. Coincidence?

"She who bails, fails."
and the corollaries:
"Leave the Rhino? How 'bout hell no?"
"Faith may be my shield, but this vehicle is my armor."
"The meek may inherit the earth, but we control the bucket seats."

Fixed2bbroken wrote:
(5 sisters, F/HF, in a MM Immolator)

I am aware of that guys, but in the request they are in an Immolator: No fire points

So unless it's a standard 5-girl with no weapons or anything - which would stay inside no matter what - then to make use of any weaponry (even before we get to the priest) then you'd have to have a Reason to jump out, hence above.

 BlackTalos wrote:

Fixed2bbroken wrote:
(5 sisters, F/HF, in a MM Immolator)

I am aware of that guys, but in the request they are in an Immolator: No fire points

So unless it's a standard 5-girl with no weapons or anything - which would stay inside no matter what - then to make use of any weaponry (even before we get to the priest) then you'd have to have a Reason to jump out, hence above.

Let me update my previous statement:

"Leave the immo? How 'bout hell no?"

Almost never leave it. T3 troops die too quick in the open.

This is also why I take Rhinos and not Immos for my BSS.

Recently I ran 6 immolaters (5 girl melta/heavy flamer), 3 dominion immolaters (5 girl, 4 melta) 3 Exorcists, and a cannoness (taking condemnor boltguns on all available *since no faq now*)

Managed to splode a knight first turn and pretty much wiped the board in 2 of 3 games...

Lost my butt to a tranny C'tan though... That guys a beast.
KP mission ended on turn 6. I had an exorcist and 1 sister tank left... he was down 2 wraiths and 4 wounds gone from the tranny.

Condemnor was updated in the book itself to the same wording as the GK codex.

Good job either way though.

 pretre wrote:
Condemnor was updated in the book itself to the same wording as the GK codex.

Good job either way though.

Guess that's finally a reason to buy the damn digital thing instead of the pdf. (no matter, there was only 1 psycher at the store anyway... lol)
Thanks... It was a lot more fun than 6th sisters.

You could do the same in 6th though.

Mavnas wrote:
You could do the same in 6th though.

Yeah, but now all those Immos on the Battle Sister Squads are Objective Secured. 12 Super Scoring units is pretty hilarious.

Yeah no point leaving the MM either. An 11/11/10 vehicle with a MM sat on top might as well just have a big target hovering above it. If you're using small BSS squads for objectives then sit them in the immo on the the objective firing the MM at anything darft enough to get in range, once the Immo goes pop, try and hold the objective with the girls utilising their special weapons to deter anything soft so your opponent has to commit resouces to take the objective.

D

GoonBandito wrote:

Mavnas wrote:
You could do the same in 6th though.

Yeah, but now all those Immos on the Battle Sister Squads are Objective Secured. 12 Super Scoring units is pretty hilarious.

Yep, cheap Immos are crazy good now.

I must have awful luck then, it doesn't matter how many immos I run, they all die without ever getting their points back.

 deviantduck wrote:
I must have awful luck then, it doesn't matter how many immos I run, they all die without ever getting their points back.

All of them? Every single one?

Also, 'getting your points back' is a horrible metric of efficiency.

Winning games is a good metric of efficiency.

Best "points back" immolator was:

Outflank about 2" from enemy side board, dominions jump out and melta stuff.

Enemy causes 1 Glance 1 Pen: Weapon Destroyed - no more MM.

My turn: Drive into 3 Obliterators standing on the board edge, they Fail their Leadership, run off the board... Points!

Moral of the story:
Immolators are good at Tank shocking, don't use them for transport or Shooting or those other stupid reasons!

I lol'd.

Back in 5th, I was a tank shocking fool. I once had a game against DOA Blood Angels where I think I tank shocked no less than 30 times in one game.

Ahh, those were the days.

But why no longer? Non-fearless can still run, and at worst, you loose a Rhino/Immo that's had it's worth?

 BlackTalos wrote:
But why no longer? Non-fearless can still run, and at worst, you loose a Rhino/Immo that's had it's worth?

At the time, TS was MUCH better. You could tank shock/ram at max speed and disembark. You could block people from regrouping by being within 6", etc. so on.

It was a valid way to take people off the board, in other words, rather than a happy accident.

Well, Rhino once disembarked in the middle of nowhere, or an Immolator with Weapon Destroyed are all valid ways to cause Ld tests on units in 7th too.

I still see it a a valid tactic since 6th Ed saw my 1 Rhino chasing 1 riptide, 2 Broadsides, a marine squad and scouts off the board (different games)

Back when i was not mechanised...

I'm not saying it isn't a valid tactic. I'm just saying it isn't as good as it was. Most of the time, there's a better option.

Like I said, Happy Accident instead of a strategy.

Finally got around to uploading some pictures of the Order of our Lady Tyche Fortuna,
Order of Our Martyred Lady but Green instead of the usual Red Robes. Split into Card Suits too :p

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-81346-41701_Order%20Of%20Our%20Lady%20Tyche%20Fortuna.html

A bit late to the "my painting scheme" part of this thread, but please enjoy, leave any comments you wish too

Looking good!

 BlackTalos wrote:
Finally got around to uploading some pictures of the Order of our Lady Tyche Fortuna,
Order of Our Martyred Lady but Green instead of the usual Red Robes. Split into Card Suits too :p

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-81346-41701_Order%20Of%20Our%20Lady%20Tyche%20Fortuna.html

A bit late to the "my painting scheme" part of this thread, but please enjoy, leave any comments you wish too

Cool looking Priest model - what was that made from?

GoonBandito wrote:

Cool looking Priest model - what was that made from?

From the old metal Bretonian Damsel:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/238883
(not my picture)

Sisters are looking really good in 7th with maelstrom missions. Lot of fairly cheap, fast and resilient MSU to claim objectives [priests for fearless are a must, and make them competitive in CC], with Exorcists to claim VPs for taking out enemy tanks.

Plus, high AV gunlines [which I always struggle against] can't castle up any more if they want to gain VPs.

Throw in a Warhound Titan to take out high AV targets and Sisters are looking very competitive.

A Warhound Titan? That's a little excessive isn't it? Especially when Sisters can bring so much melta to the table. A Knight titan would be a bit more reasonable, both on the table and in the wallet.

Gleefully crossposted this bit to the 1,001 Sisters jokes thread:

 pretre wrote:
"She who bails, fails."
and the corollaries:
"Leave the Rhino? How 'bout hell no?"
"Faith may be my shield, but this vehicle is my armor."
"The meek may inherit the earth, but we control the bucket seats."

I'm also reminded of the old US mech infantry line, "Death Before Dismount."

 Paimon wrote:
A Warhound Titan? That's a little excessive isn't it? Especially when Sisters can bring so much melta to the table. A Knight titan would be a bit more reasonable, both on the table and in the wallet.

Love being able to use my Warhound - go big or go home! Having said that it's a big risk so maybe a knight might be more cost effective. Anyway, I'll continue to use the Warhound whenever possible. Really like that it's now in the core rules, so it's down to my opponent to come up with a really good reason why he won't play it, rather than for me to come up with a reason why he should.

Even without SHs Sisters are looking good in maelstrom.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:

 Paimon wrote:
A Warhound Titan? That's a little excessive isn't it? Especially when Sisters can bring so much melta to the table. A Knight titan would be a bit more reasonable, both on the table and in the wallet.

Love being able to use my Warhound - go big or go home! Having said that it's a big risk so maybe a knight might be more cost effective. Anyway, I'll continue to use the Warhound whenever possible. Really like that it's now in the core rules, so it's down to my opponent to come up with a really good reason why he won't play it, rather than for me to come up with a reason why he should.

Even without SHs Sisters are looking good in maelstrom.

What is your preferred load-out if you have multiple, or the one you have?