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Updated my Codex Sisters of Battle. Of relevance to this thread I've Split the Crucifier Purgatorius into 3 Patterns. The Purgatorius(Bolt Cannon), Igneos(MagnaMelta), and Pyros(Inferno Cannon).

A few things to note: The Purgatorius has a Purgatorius Bolt Cannon which can be upgraded to a Heavy Conversion Beamer, the Igneos has a Magnamelta which can be upgraded to a Melta Cannon, the Pyros has an Inferno Cannon.

It's very hard to keep track of every comments here, so I'll review only the last and first post.

I like most of the stuffs, but I really think you could combine the SOB Predator and Vindicta into one, allow the Predator to take Avenger Bolt Cannon.

And if you insist on keeping the Vindicta, I think that changing the name to Benedicta will make it less confusing (and more irony).

The Oriflamme's cost really bugs me. A (relatively) squishy vehicle that costs as much as a LRBT (and even more than some of its variants) but it is just a feeling.

About the Chariot of Fire, I think that its armour should be even lower, since it is essentially an open-topped trike.

I agree with the folks who've said skimmer technology is too rare in the Imperium for the Sisters to get a hover-tank, cool as it would be. Even the Astartes don't have anything heavier than a Land Speeder -- players would justifiably freak if the Sororitas showed up with

J3f wrote:Updated my Codex Sisters of Battle. Of relevance to this thread I've Split the Crucifier Purgatorius into 3 Patterns. The Purgatorius(Bolt Cannon), Igneos(MagnaMelta), and Pyros(Inferno Cannon).....The Purgatorius has a Purgatorius Bolt Cannon which can be upgraded to a Heavy Conversion Beamer, ....

Cool, but: heavy conversion beamer? Holy feth! Even Marines don't get those outside 30K, and non-Astartes forces don't get any kind of conversion beam weapon at all.

xalvissx wrote:The Oriflamme's cost really bugs me. A (relatively) squishy vehicle that costs as much as a LRBT (and even more than some of its variants) but it is just a feeling.

About the Chariot of Fire, I think that its armour should be even lower, since it is essentially an open-topped trike.

Good points both. Oriflamme is a scouting murder machine, though.

xalvissx wrote:...I really think you could combine the SOB Predator and Vindicta into one, allow the Predator to take Avenger Bolt Cannon....

That was my original idea, actually, but people thought the ABC was just too big for a Predator turret. I still think a turreted Avenger Bolt Cannon would be awesome, though -- what do folks here think -- over the top or not?

 SisterSydney wrote:

J3f wrote:Updated my Codex Sisters of Battle. Of relevance to this thread I've Split the Crucifier Purgatorius into 3 Patterns. The Purgatorius(Bolt Cannon), Igneos(MagnaMelta), and Pyros(Inferno Cannon).....The Purgatorius has a Purgatorius Bolt Cannon which can be upgraded to a Heavy Conversion Beamer, ....

Cool, but: heavy conversion beamer? Holy feth! Even Marines don't get those outside 30K, and non-Astartes forces don't get any kind of conversion beam weapon at all.

Relic Pred, IAApoc2013, legal in 40k as a 0-1 choice for Marine lists. I wouldn't give it to the Sisters just based on the fact that they don't have close ties to the Mechanicum in the same way.


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 SisterSydney wrote:

xalvissx wrote:...I really think you could combine the SOB Predator and Vindicta into one, allow the Predator to take Avenger Bolt Cannon....

That was my original idea, actually, but people thought the ABC was just too big for a Predator turret. I still think a turreted Avenger Bolt Cannon would be awesome, though -- what do folks here think -- over the top or not?

Aesthetics-wise I'd stick it in place of the Vindicator's Demolisher cannon instead of making a turret of it. Sort of a one-long-gun-running-the-entire-long-axis-of-the-tank thing.

Removed The Heavy Conversion Beamer from the Purgatorius.

and non-Astartes forces don't get any kind of conversion beam weapon at all.

At least one Inquisitor has a pistol conversion beemer IIRC

Inquisitions are the exception to every rule, even this one.

 Mr Morden wrote:

and non-Astartes forces don't get any kind of conversion beam weapon at all.

At least one Inquisitor has a pistol conversion beemer IIRC

The Ordo Xenos has the most toys. This is an unbreakable law, no matter how many toys you have the Ordo Xenos has more.

 J3f wrote:
Updated my Codex Sisters of Battle. Of relevance to this thread I've Split the Crucifier Purgatorius into 3 Patterns. The Purgatorius(Bolt Cannon), Igneos(MagnaMelta), and Pyros(Inferno Cannon)....

Just re-read those units in J3f's fandex and boy, those Crucifier tanks gotta be big: 10-12 passengers plus a tank-sized main gun plus two heavy bolters/flamers/multimeltas. They just lack the AV:14 and 4 HP of Land Raiders. Do you have a visual image?

PS: I've tried to make my Deliverer Assault Shrine less and less like a Land Raider as I've redesigned it, based on feedback in this thread and elsewhere: it started as a Redeemer Lite and is now open-topped, for one thing -- I'd love ideas for further refinements.

 SisterSydney wrote:

 J3f wrote:
Updated my Codex Sisters of Battle. Of relevance to this thread I've Split the Crucifier Purgatorius into 3 Patterns. The Purgatorius(Bolt Cannon), Igneos(MagnaMelta), and Pyros(Inferno Cannon)....

Just re-read those units in J3f's fandex and boy, those Crucifier tanks gotta be big: 10-12 passengers plus a tank-sized main gun plus two heavy bolters/flamers/multimeltas. They just lack the AV:14 and 4 HP of Land Raiders. Do you have a visual image?

PS: I've tried to make my Deliverer Assault Shrine less and less like a Land Raider as I've redesigned it, based on feedback in this thread and elsewhere: it started as a Redeemer Lite and is now open-topped, for one thing -- I'd love ideas for further refinements.

They're a tad smaller than Land Raiders. I've gone back and forth with what they should look like. My current visual image is a train engine on Tank Treads with a hull mounted Melta Cannon in place of the Head Light. It would have side access hatches and a pair sponsons. The Vanilla Crucifier would have a front assault ramp and 2 beefier Sponsons. The Purgatorius and Pyros would have a top front mounted Turret.

I worry about your Purgatorius being almost as tactically schizoid as the standard-model Land Raider: It's got a nasty main gun with a range of 42", and it's got 12 passengers waiting to run out the front ramp. So how far does it want to be from the enemy? Is it an assault vehicle or a battle tank?

The Pyros has the same problem to a lesser degree, since it has a Torrent flamer that probably does best around 8"-16 from the enemy -- still further than your assault troops want to run.

The Igneos has much less of an issue because its main gun is a magna-melta, so it really wants to be within 9" of its target: Just to get into melta-effect range it's almost in charge range.

Whereas I tend to design vehicles as specialists: the Deliverer is an assault vehicle first and foremost, with short-range weapons (flamestorm cannon or magnameltas); the Oriflamme is a hit-and-run tank (Scout plus torrent flamers or melta cannon); the Sororitas Predator is a short-range shooter (flamestorm cannnon or magnamelta again, essentially a Predator Infernus). Of course, that makes them less flexible.

1 persons "tactically Schizoid" is another's "Versatile." Also only the Vanilla Crucifier has a Front Ramp the others have a main gun.