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that Knight Prophyrion has two different Explodes rules heh

It's extra explodey!

 axisofentropy wrote:
that Knight Prophyrion has two different Explodes rules heh

*sigh* yea tons of mistakes. I'm willing to give them a pass since they're scrambling to release a ton of changes in a short period of time. Let's hope they step their game up with the later books.

 Zach wrote:
Not seeing it but may have missed it, any Tyranid leaks? Just curious what the Heirophant and Harridan have become due to their size.

Someone on the Hive said they had seen the hierophant rules. PL 90, macro cannons, can still carry troops or something like that.

Loopstah wrote:
Someone on the Hive said they had seen the hierophant rules. PL 90, macro cannons, can still carry troops or something like that.

Is that from leafing through a copy at warhammer world? I live in Nottingham and am thinking of going on Wednesday to have a look at the two unreleased indexes, but I don't want to go unless the books will actually be there and available. Could probably try to relay some information in this thread if it's there.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
That was the case beforehand as well.
The Vindicator Laser Destroyer has worked differently from other other Laser Destroyer because it's a suped up array with extra power systems (which was previously represented by a special rule allowing it to fire more shots if you didn't move, and even more if you wanted to risk overheating and suffering damage).

Which gave more shots. Each shot was still same whether it was spartan or vindicator.

Fair enough. Seems like these rules will all be somewhat transient, though.

 Zach wrote:
Fair enough. Seems like these rules will all be somewhat transient, though.

Every Codex and rulebook that's ever been released by GW are transient. At least these are low cost and packed with rules in comparison to a codex.

Im aware. Im saying they are making more frequent updates these days and therefore they are of a more transient nature.

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:

Loopstah wrote:
Someone on the Hive said they had seen the hierophant rules. PL 90, macro cannons, can still carry troops or something like that.

Is that from leafing through a copy at warhammer world? I live in Nottingham and am thinking of going on Wednesday to have a look at the two unreleased indexes, but I don't want to go unless the books will actually be there and available. Could probably try to relay some information in this thread if it's there.

Could you please try and look at Karis Venner and Combat Engineers if you manage?

If anyone can, could someone send me information on Moloc and Enkomi(image preferred, but text fine)? I might be in a game in about two hours ad have ordered them and want to see if I can test 'em out.

tneva82 wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
That was the case beforehand as well.
The Vindicator Laser Destroyer has worked differently from other other Laser Destroyer because it's a suped up array with extra power systems (which was previously represented by a special rule allowing it to fire more shots if you didn't move, and even more if you wanted to risk overheating and suffering damage).

Which gave more shots. Each shot was still same whether it was spartan or vindicator.

Well, it also had a greater range and had a different name (Laser Destroyer Array on the Vindicator, Laser Destroyer on the Spartan).

Tbh I'm not really seeing the problem in having the weapon become slightly more different now that there's a Damage stat, AP 1 (AP-4) isn't the best AP value and Strength is no longer capped at 10.

I'd love to see what the Barbed and Scythed Hierodule are now.

Any necron updates? Itching to know if we can have heavy weapons like all the other armies

Does anyone have points info about Marauder Bomber and Warhound Scout Titan? Send me a private mail with points costs.. Thanks

 Klowny wrote:
Any necron updates? Itching to know if we can have heavy weapons like all the other armies

Never gonna happen.

Is... is this a Blade Runner reference? I think it is...

C-beams!!

 Verviedi wrote:
Is... is this a Blade Runner reference? I think it is...

We will know for sure if the next expansion features the Tannhäuser Gate.

Or its just the abbreviation of Conversion Beamer, but dont let me stand in the way of Blade Runner references.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Or its just the abbreviation of Conversion Beamer, but dont let me stand in the way of Blade Runner references.

C-Beams in "Blade Runner" were the same deal...an abbreviation for a Conversion Beam weapon!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Or its just the abbreviation of Conversion Beamer, but dont let me stand in the way of Blade Runner references.

C-Beams in "Blade Runner" were the same deal...an abbreviation for a Conversion Beam weapon!

Oh I wasn't aware of that, the more you know!

I love how he gain WS as it loses wounds, to reflect him being angrier.

And thats why we haven't homogeinized degradation charts!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, Macro eh?

Does double Wounds against Bulding and Titanic keyword. Which is nice.

But, as my book is at home awaiting liberation of its packaging...does anyone reckon that doubling extends to bonus damage, such as Mortal Wounds inflicted by a Belicosa Volcano Cannon rolling a 6 to wound?

I doubt it. But the BELICOSA is 12 damage base, so doing 24 damage if it goes through any inv saves.

Does anyone have the points for the various load-outs of Relic Deredeo Dreads? I've heard some people online gripping about it slipping through the cracks and being far too under-costed...

... which normally I would hate, but i'd love an excuse to finally use the model I spent all that money on, in a competitive setting. :-p

Sheesh, over half of the hellforged predators weapons are variable number of shots. What is so wrong with a static value, especially for something as simple as a twin autocannon which was simply 4 shots.

Apologies if late to the party, but....

Totally just confirmed (via my own copy of the book) that Chaos has no restriction on Hellforged units in the way Loyalists do with Relic.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Apologies if late to the party, but....

Totally just confirmed (via my own copy of the book) that Chaos has no restriction on Hellforged units in the way Loyalists do with Relic.

Most Excellent!


Too bad my wallet is going to hate me...

Have double and triple checked, no sign of a restriction at all.

Oh, and Sicarians are Elites....

As for Moloc (whose image I found on 4chan and can't access on this computer):

His weapon in melee is +2S, -3AP, 3D, with +1A if attacking a character. Shooting it is range 12, Assault 1, S8, AP-3, 3D.

All Minotaur units within six inches re-roll all failed to hit rolls and all failed charge rolls. If he is killed, he immediately piles in and makes his attacks before being removed. He can teleport in.

M 5', 2+ BS/WS, S4, T4, W6, A4, LD 10(I think), 2+/3++.

10 Power, 200 points.

He looks pretty beastly against characters. (Posting so I can access info for a game tonight)