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Yeah, it's something they're experimenting with, first with Mulan and now this Raya.

It didn't go so well with Mulan, I'm guessing for a couple of unclear reasons, it's apparently not a great movie, and they received quite a lot of flak for the 'hey, special thanks to those folks committing genocide' in the credits.
So it ended up going onto their usual offerings after a surprisingly short amount of time.

Conversely, I think Raya has been consistently reviewed well and may end up being a better test for Disney.

 AduroT wrote:
... I didn’t realize they still wanted you to pay more for the new movies.

That's not a normal thing. They've only done that twice with movies that have never been in the cinema. It's their "cut our losses" approach thanks to COVID.

This isn't Amazone Prime, where you pay per month yet they still want you to pay for renting/purchasing movies.

 Compel wrote:
Yeah, it's something they're experimenting with, first with Mulan and now this Raya.

It didn't go so well with Mulan, I'm guessing for a couple of unclear reasons, it's apparently not a great movie, and they received quite a lot of flak for the 'hey, special thanks to those folks committing genocide' in the credits.
So it ended up going onto their usual offerings after a surprisingly short amount of time.

Conversely, I think Raya has been consistently reviewed well and may end up being a better test for Disney.

Mulan wasn’t Bad, but it was a very different movie from the animated version. More of a wire fu action flick, with entirely different morals.

 AduroT wrote:
Mulan wasn’t Bad, but it was a very different movie from the animated version. More of a wire fu action flick, with entirely different morals.

Yeah, going from "Anyone can do anything if they put their minds to it and support one another!" to "You are a woman, therefore superpowers!" was quite a leap.

I quite enjoyed it.
It did have a big problem though of not making any of the male characters look distinct enough to tell them apart.
And no, im not saying all asians look alike, many movies can have this problem when you all cast according to the hollywood type,

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Mulan wasn’t Bad, but it was a very different movie from the animated version. More of a wire fu action flick, with entirely different morals.

Yeah, going from "Anyone can do anything if they put their minds to it and support one another!" to "You are a woman, therefore superpowers!" was quite a leap.

But only if you're loyal to China will your superpowers prevent you from being controlled by a man.
How was the witch not the one in charge, again..?

Mulan's main flaw (chief among its many flaws) is the same as the other live action adaptions: it assumes the audience is invested in whats going on based on their exposure to the source material without putting the effort to earn it themselves. It calls back to characters' backgrounds and motivations through musical cues that reference expository musical numbers that don't exist in this version of the movie. It tries to cash in on emotional investment that it doesn't invest in - a mistake the movies they're based on don't make, and a mistake the kinds of movies they're trying to mimic don't make.

For all of its other problems, that's the one that ruins it as a movie.

 Compel wrote:

So it ended up going onto their usual offerings after a surprisingly short amount of time.

It could be normal. These are the first two tries at the 'premiere' format, so several weeks/a couple months could be their target. I'd think they'd run out of people who want to throw out an extra $30 pretty quick.

For Kenobi?

What’s the betting we’ll see some involvement with Jabba?

I mean, he’s on Tattooine, and we know for a fact that the Throne Room/Audience Chamber set exists.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
For Kenobi?

What’s the betting we’ll see some involvement with Jabba?

I mean, he’s on Tattooine, and we know for a fact that the Throne Room/Audience Chamber set exists.

Well, probably. But it feels... dull. Revisiting old people and places again, as well as revisiting old places that are being revisited in the Boba and Sidekick show.
Mandalorian also did a lot with Jawas and Tuskens, so, um... I guess?

I'd really rather he wandered off for some self-contained sidequest somewhere else.
I'd love to see something set in a major city in SW. We almost never get to see that, just variations on 'peasants' scratching out boring lives on the fringe, unless of course we're places without people at all.

Voss wrote:

I'd really rather he wandered off for some self-contained sidequest somewhere else.
I'd love to see something set in a major city in SW. We almost never get to see that, just variations on 'peasants' scratching out boring lives on the fringe, unless of course we're places without people at all.

It could be like the old The Incredible Hulk tv show. Ben turns up somewhere, tries to keep a low profile and not use his powers, then has to use his powers to solve the problem, then has to move on. The the galaxy's worst inquisitor turns up in the final scene asking if anyone has seen a jedi....

Voss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
For Kenobi?

What’s the betting we’ll see some involvement with Jabba?

I mean, he’s on Tattooine, and we know for a fact that the Throne Room/Audience Chamber set exists.

Well, probably. But it feels... dull. Revisiting old people and places again, as well as revisiting old places that are being revisited in the Boba and Sidekick show.
Mandalorian also did a lot with Jawas and Tuskens, so, um... I guess?

I'd really rather he wandered off for some self-contained sidequest somewhere else.
I'd love to see something set in a major city in SW. We almost never get to see that, just variations on 'peasants' scratching out boring lives on the fringe, unless of course we're places without people at all.

So much this. I know they are trying to keep riffing off Westerns and Samurai movies as that is Star Wars bread and butter, but they could easily steal some new genres and pack them in there.

Some gritty space cop action in a hive city? No!
How about planet hopping spies with lots of gadgets? No!
What about a Lovecraft inspired series based on the horrors of the Dark Side? No!

Really boring stuff really.

Hheeeeeyyyyyy whoa! Slow down there, Pedro.

Planet Hopping Spies? Cassian Andor.

Gribbly Dark Side? The Acolyte.

We’ve got one series ongoing, others in the pipe. It seems distinctly premature to say they’re all gonna be variations on the same theme.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hheeeeeyyyyyy whoa! Slow down there, Pedro.

Planet Hopping Spies? Cassian Andor.

Gribbly Dark Side? The Acolyte.

We’ve got one series ongoing, others in the pipe. It seems distinctly premature to say they’re all gonna be variations on the same theme.

Yes.... and I hope they are getting there. SO FAR, they have all been variations of the Space Western/Samurai flick.....

MarkNorfolk wrote:

Voss wrote:

I'd really rather he wandered off for some self-contained sidequest somewhere else.
I'd love to see something set in a major city in SW. We almost never get to see that, just variations on 'peasants' scratching out boring lives on the fringe, unless of course we're places without people at all.

It could be like the old The Incredible Hulk tv show. Ben turns up somewhere, tries to keep a low profile and not use his powers, then has to use his powers to solve the problem, then has to move on. The the galaxy's worst inquisitor turns up in the final scene asking if anyone has seen a jedi....

So much better if It followed the path forged by The Littlest Hobo... maybe tomorrow...

It would be nice to see Star Wars try a political thriller, but without all the other stuff getting in the way.

Call it, The West Ring and make it about the staff members of a senator during the High Republic and the various odd situations and mundane things they do in the day-to-day running of the galaxy.

"It's walk in day. Alright, that means we'll be sitting down with anyone who wants to talk about the issues that matter to them. Take good notes, be polite, and report back so we can brief the senator."

"Don't make me sit with those crazy Baldovans again."

"You have to sit with the Baldovans and just grit your teeth."

"They want to destroy all droids. It doesn't even make sense! They say droids are slaves and slavery is wrong, but we should destroy all droids? They're nuts!"

"Grit your teeth and listen to the rant KlepKelep."

Written by Sorkin of course.....

With all of the walking and talking it would feel like AotC all over again.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
With all of the walking and talking it would feel like AotC all over again.

Honestly, I think one of the things that really held the prequels back is that they couldn't decide what they were; a space opera or a serious political drama in space. They're not the same thing, and those two modes of story telling clashed horribly in Episodes II and III imo. The story got in its own way.

After they absolutely stuck the landing with the final Alphabet Squadron book, I'm kind of dreading going into any of these new shows - I don't think I'll be able to forgive them for not being an Alphabet adaption instead!

To me the Kenobi series seems like the riskiest venture, there's only so much he can do on Tatooine without losing his anonymous hermit image, and only so much he can do off of Tatooine without making people question Luke's safety. They could do a story that has him go back and fight Vader one more time to satisfy obsessively nitpicky fans (Vader says 'when I left you' when clearly Obi-Wan left him next to that lava pool) else maybe something where Luke is almost compromised to maybe help explain the animosity Owen feels towards him, but beyond fanservice is there really much to build more than one season around?

I've said it before, I want a 3 camera, single set sticom that takes place in a bar on Corocant.

People wander in and out, refer to events happening outside the bar, make jokes and move on.

Use existing costumes and characters from the dozen other shows and it'll cost like a $1.05 to make

and only so much he can do off of Tatooine without making people question Luke's safety.

Is that really even an issue? It certainly never seems like it is for Leia.

Though that could be a plot idea in itself- popping off to Alderaan to check in with Organa.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I've said it before, I want a 3 camera, single set sticom that takes place in a bar on Corocant.

People wander in and out, refer to events happening outside the bar, make jokes and move on.

Use existing costumes and characters from the dozen other shows and it'll cost like a $1.05 to make

Seems legit. But only if it has canned Hutt laughter and is filmed in front of a live Kashyyk studio audience.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I've said it before, I want a 3 camera, single set sticom that takes place in a bar on Corocant.

People wander in and out, refer to events happening outside the bar, make jokes and move on.

Use existing costumes and characters from the dozen other shows and it'll cost like a $1.05 to make

Just one more round, friend.
Then homeward bound, friend.

MarkNorfolk wrote:

Voss wrote:

I'd really rather he wandered off for some self-contained sidequest somewhere else.
I'd love to see something set in a major city in SW. We almost never get to see that, just variations on 'peasants' scratching out boring lives on the fringe, unless of course we're places without people at all.

It could be like the old The Incredible Hulk tv show. Ben turns up somewhere, tries to keep a low profile and not use his powers, then has to use his powers to solve the problem, then has to move on. The the galaxy's worst inquisitor turns up in the final scene asking if anyone has seen a jedi....

Cue the sad Jedi walking away music!


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 warboss wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I've said it before, I want a 3 camera, single set sticom that takes place in a bar on Corocant.

People wander in and out, refer to events happening outside the bar, make jokes and move on.

Use existing costumes and characters from the dozen other shows and it'll cost like a $1.05 to make

Seems legit. But only if it has canned Hutt laughter and is filmed in front of a live Kashyyk studio audience.

Making your way in the galaxy today
Takes everything you got
Taking a break from Imperial entanglements
Sure would help a lot...

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I've said it before, I want a 3 camera, single set sticom that takes place in a bar on Corocant.

So... Dex's Diner, the series?

Jettster Dexter is the force’s gift to YouTube editors. Add a laugh track and he’s hilarious. Add horror music and he’s terrifying. Add some sultry sax and...well, you just watch yourself.

So, digging way back to the very first episode, did we ever find out who hired the IG for the explicit purpose of killing baby yoda?

Seemed pretty clear to me that Gideon also made that call, any bounty hunter that made the kill would have to bring the body back as proof so they'd still get their tissue samples. But between it coming out that Karga's 'best guy' was a Mandalorian (that they could get more value out of barter with over the beskar they had) and Dr. Pershing's no doubt incessant whining about it they probably made the request for a live retrieval out of some outside chance he'd be able to pull it off.

Intervention from a mysterious galactic Force optional.

That’s a horrible plan though. Were gonna hire two exceptional bounty hunters. Send them both after the same target. One is told explicitly to kill them. The other is told do their best to bring them in alive. Also we’re not gonna tell them about the other one.