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 Latro_ wrote:
Q: Which part of a Drop Pod should I measure distances from
and to, especially if the model has been assembled so its doors
can be opened or closed?
A: Measure all distances to and from any part of the
model, including its doors. If this model has been
assembled such that you can lower and raise its doors,
then when this model is first set up in the battlefield
choose whether the doors will be lowered or raised –
you cannot raise or lower the doors thereafter during
the battle.

haha hats awesome... so you can use a drop pod as a blocker OR if you need stuff in a place and your opponent is screening you can keep the doors up and have less of a footprint

It was first time like this in 7th ed. Got reworded fast as it proved to be mess. GW keeps flipping things back and forth. Can't they learn from their mistakes once?

tneva82 wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
Q: Which part of a Drop Pod should I measure distances from
and to, especially if the model has been assembled so its doors
can be opened or closed?
A: Measure all distances to and from any part of the
model, including its doors. If this model has been
assembled such that you can lower and raise its doors,
then when this model is first set up in the battlefield
choose whether the doors will be lowered or raised –
you cannot raise or lower the doors thereafter during
the battle.

haha hats awesome... so you can use a drop pod as a blocker OR if you need stuff in a place and your opponent is screening you can keep the doors up and have less of a footprint

It was first time like this in 7th ed. Got reworded fast as it proved to be mess. GW keeps flipping things back and forth. Can't they learn from their mistakes once?

Now we just need an 500 pts handicap for marines in transport vehicles.....

I feel like this is appropriate:
https://images.app.goo.gl/RSGT8yBYNF7Z4vCP7

 Kanluwen wrote:

FAQ wrote:Q. If I upgrade my Captain in Phobos Armour to be a Chapter Master, should the Infiltrator Comms Array still work with this model, and with its Chapter Master ability instead of Rites of Battle?
A: No.

What the hell are they thinking on this one?

You presume that they were thinking when they answered that query.

Danny76 wrote:
But less likely as they are big established characters (I.e. can charge £40/50 for him, and £15/20 for Grimaldus).
So wouldn’t want to stick it in a deal box.
(Same as the thing I say all the time when people wonder whether there will be a SC box with all the new units that come out, at release.) They just can make lots more doing it separate etc.

grim'll cost what calgar costs

 xttz wrote:
They edited the Marine FAQ article and added this new PDF:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/warhammer_40000_space_marines_errata_en.pdf

It adds Angels of Death and Chaplain rules to various Index units

Only the Litany of Hate...

And it only activates on a 3+, effectively making this useless.

BrianDavion wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
But less likely as they are big established characters (I.e. can charge £40/50 for him, and £15/20 for Grimaldus).
So wouldn’t want to stick it in a deal box.
(Same as the thing I say all the time when people wonder whether there will be a SC box with all the new units that come out, at release.) They just can make lots more doing it separate etc.

grim'll cost what calgar costs

Yeah, I don’t know what they’re coming in at these days, I just threw up example/placeholder prices.
So Abaddon/Guilliman and then these other new Primaris named characters

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

FAQ wrote:Q. If I upgrade my Captain in Phobos Armour to be a Chapter Master, should the Infiltrator Comms Array still work with this model, and with its Chapter Master ability instead of Rites of Battle?
A: No.

What the hell are they thinking on this one?

You presume that they were thinking when they answered that query.

Well, at least they read the rules. The answer is perfectly logical.

 xttz wrote:
They edited the Marine FAQ article and added this new PDF:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/warhammer_40000_space_marines_errata_en.pdf

It adds Angels of Death and Chaplain rules to various Index units

I was glad (and surprised) to see Angels of Death added to Index Imperium 1 units. It's a shame that the Chaplain on Bike rule is so limited without allowing for an extra new litany, like with other Chaplains, but I suppose it was just a minimal update to avoid breaking anything - only one Chaplain can use a particular litany at a time, so the Litany of Hate wouldn't have been usable by other Chaplains while the bike was on the board prior to this update.

The other thing I would have liked them to do is rename the Marneus Calgar datasheet in Index Imperium 1 to "Marneus Calgar in Armour of Antilochus". Otherwise the old terminator model is no longer usable, as his datasheet has been replaced with the new Primaris one, which has the same name. A similar renaming for the old Tigurius datasheet would be helpful too. It's not an odd situation where the even older Calgar model in Artificer armour is still usable because he had a datasheet with a different name, but the terminator model is not.

I am glad they made other Chapters that use things like Honour Guard and whatnot able to use them again. Same with my Rhino Primaris and Land Raider Excelsior.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I am glad they made other Chapters that use things like Honour Guard and whatnot able to use them again. Same with my Rhino Primaris and Land Raider Excelsior.

Is that right? That a fantastic news for those using Honour Guard.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I am glad they made other Chapters that use things like Honour Guard and whatnot able to use them again. Same with my Rhino Primaris and Land Raider Excelsior.

Is that right? That a fantastic news for those using Honour Guard.

Yup. They updated several Index units. Our Honour Guard will still have to pay the old points though.

Why are you talking about the FAQ in this thread concerning rumours and when there is another thread specifically for FAQ discussion?

My concern with this rumour is that GW have been rather hit and miss with their new sculpts and Ghazz already has a great looking model.
If any new models come out looking as good as the new Chaos marines then great, but I'm still worried about them changing the ork boys kit which imo is one of the best looking kits they have ever produced for 40k.

Also I love converting and they seem to love to make new models as hard to convert as possible! That cool Nazdreg conversion from Codex:Armageddon is based on Ghazz and would be much harder without his model...

 Kroem wrote:
My concern with this rumour is that GW have been rather hit and miss with their new sculpts and Ghazz already has a great looking model.
If any new models come out looking as good as the new Chaos marines then great, but I'm still worried about them changing the ork boys kit which imo is one of the best looking kits they have ever produced for 40k.

Also I love converting and they seem to love to make new models as hard to convert as possible! That cool Nazdreg conversion from Codex:Armageddon is based on Ghazz and would be much harder without his model...

You think the current Ghazz model stands with the likes of Guilliman, Abby, Morty and Magnus?

That's a different stance. The model is OK, its not worthy of Ghazz though, not anymore.

Ghaz absolutely needs a new model. If it's tied to a new narrative all the better. New Primork unit and now Nobz are the rank and file?

Let's do the whole Oldstartes/Primaris dance all over again!

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Why are you talking about the FAQ in this thread concerning rumours and when there is another thread specifically for FAQ discussion?

The FAQ stuff was posted here before that other thread was created.

 xttz wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Why are you talking about the FAQ in this thread concerning rumours and when there is another thread specifically for FAQ discussion?

The FAQ stuff was posted here before that other thread was created.

It had no place here then, it has no place here now.

This thread contains everything EXEPT news.
As for rumors, they are not a thing anymore. Just attention seekers and their " a friend told me..."

I'm suprised those 10 pages of wishlisting hasn't been blocked already ...

 eflix29 wrote:
I'm suprised those 10 pages of wishlisting hasn't been blocked already ...

God forbid we have any fun speculating...

 eflix29 wrote:
This thread contains everything EXEPT news.
As for rumors, they are not a thing anymore. Just attention seekers and their " a friend told me..."

I'm suprised those 10 pages of wishlisting hasn't been blocked already ...

I mean, feel free to read the thread or even just the title and decide for yourself whether you believe it's worth responding just to say; 'I don't like rumours!' and actively contributing (though very little, admittedly) to these 10 pages.

Very excited to see BT get some attention. Seeing the icons on those ships in the video has me convinced they will be heavily involved in this new storyline for 40k.

Also don't see why anyone would think that BT doesn't make sense for a box set that could be tied to the campaign. As the only SM army that doesn't allow any psychic units? Hell, this could be just the excuse (not that BT ever needed much of one) to start some massive new crusade!

People still think this is actually going to happen? Its laughable.

I really hope the non-psychic factions get some love as well, Sisters, BT, Necrons, Khorne.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Tau.

 Oguhmek wrote:
I really hope the non-psychic factions get some love as well, Sisters, BT, Necrons, Khorne.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Tau.

We already know who's getting new rules...

It's really not rocket science to just move Eternal/Cryptec/C'Tan powers and similar abilities to the psychic phase and provide some deny mechanisms to them...

 Jidmah wrote:
It's really not rocket science to just move Eternal/Cryptec/C'Tan powers and similar abilities to the psychic phase and provide some deny mechanisms to them...

That would be far too sensible of an approach for GW to consider...

 Jidmah wrote:
It's really not rocket science to just move Eternal/Cryptec/C'Tan powers and similar abilities to the psychic phase and provide some deny mechanisms to them...

I don't like this idea. If they're supposed not to be psykers, then they shouldn't work like psykers. Making then non-psykers in name only would feel like a cop out.

 Crimson wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
It's really not rocket science to just move Eternal/Cryptec/C'Tan powers and similar abilities to the psychic phase and provide some deny mechanisms to them...

I don't like this idea. If they're supposed not to be psykers, then they shouldn't work like psykers. Making then non-psykers in name only would feel like a cop out.

They could still make it a "Power" phase or something that handled psychic powers, cryptek/ctan powers, and ethereal powers during the same phase but with varied rules depending on the type of power without it being a cop-out. At least then the phase would have something to do for Necrons and Tau instead of being ignored.

 Jidmah wrote:
It's really not rocket science to just move Eternal/Cryptec/C'Tan powers and similar abilities to the psychic phase and provide some deny mechanisms to them...

Why would they do that when they can instead give the ANTI-psyker armies more ANTI-psyker stuff to highlight their uniqueness and act as a narrative foil?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Kroem wrote:
My concern with this rumour is that GW have been rather hit and miss with their new sculpts and Ghazz already has a great looking model.
If any new models come out looking as good as the new Chaos marines then great, but I'm still worried about them changing the ork boys kit which imo is one of the best looking kits they have ever produced for 40k.

Also I love converting and they seem to love to make new models as hard to convert as possible! That cool Nazdreg conversion from Codex:Armageddon is based on Ghazz and would be much harder without his model...

You think the current Ghazz model stands with the likes of Guilliman, Abby, Morty and Magnus?

That's a different stance. The model is OK, its not worthy of Ghazz though, not anymore.

Agree going by old hammer scale Ghaz should be at least larger than Abbs


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 Crimson wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
It's really not rocket science to just move Eternal/Cryptec/C'Tan powers and similar abilities to the psychic phase and provide some deny mechanisms to them...

I don't like this idea. If they're supposed not to be psykers, then they shouldn't work like psykers. Making then non-psykers in name only would feel like a cop out.

In AoS khorne and some other factions (slayers?) Have magic like abilities that aren't magic. 40k could do the same.