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Really like the new coptas! Love the circle chambers for the blades looks sweet!

@IHEARTLARGEBLASTTEMPLATES: Thanks again!

Small update:


No one picked up (well, commented on) the extra plates on the front from last time - but otherwise all changes were discussed. This time probably the least obvious change is the addition of ammo feeds to the Big Shootas care of a suggestion by monkeytroll. If you look hard in the middle picture you might see it Other options I looked at were too overpowering. Otherwise, the tail sides have now been extended and detail added, as well as detail to the front wings (top only at the moment).

You know you are on the downward slope to finished when the changes take longer for less results...

*** segway ***

For the "Marine" exchange, I'm thinking 7th Kompany is probably a good fit:

7th Kompany (Taktikal)

Warboss (Shooty)

Kommand Mob - 10x Flashgitz, Painboy

1,2 - 10x Flashgitz, Painboy

3 - 15x Kommandos, 2 Burnas, 2 Big Shootas, 2 Rokkit Launchas, Nob

4 - 15x Burnas, 3 Meks

5 - 30x 'Ard Shootas, Nob, Trukk, 3x Big Shoota, 3x Rokkit Launcha

6,7,8,9,10 - 30x Shootas, Nob, 3x Big Shootas, 3x Rokkit Launchas, Trukk

2x Deff Dreads

Good lot of options. Not everything - may have to open up a mob in 8th and 9th if anyone has their heart set on Sluggas or Stormboyz

Of course, Dark Angels players will just be asked to provide objective markers

Arakasi

I'm guessing those plates were spotted by a good few guys, just that we had no useful comments to make on them I think I started to say something, realised it was even more useless than my normal meanderings and deleted. Impressed you got the ammo feeds in there, when I suggested it I was just throwing out some ideas to fill the space used by the KMB, and after you made the front-plate I forgot all about it, but you've done both Like the detailing on the rear fins too.

edit: Can't wait to see your ork/marine segway

Like it my friend... Just keep that thought until we get a chance to act on it.

Looking good, and kudos on getting the ammo feed in there!

That is looking amazing! Great detail... everywhere!

Have you seen the new double kopta from... (is it GW or FW?) I like yours better, by far. And it started here on Dakka, eh?

I like the exhaust this way a lot more, and they fit better with the buzz saw, which is awesome.

The whole big shoota mount and ammo feed is amazing too.

Hey! I want in on the Ork boy trades! Please?

@monkeytroll: It makes more sense regarding the space to be filled now that I know you meant where the KMB went! And there I thought you were just a stickler for details... Just goes to show I listen to you guys, and even occasionally remember, huh? (Even if the interpretation is off...)

@Gitsplitta: Will do. I'm excited to finish the Deffkopta so I can make a start... More thought on where to put the exchanged boyz - I'm now thinking a whole Kompany may be a bit much - I think I'll work out specific units in da Reserve Kompanies (7, 8 & 9) - which covers a lot of options, without being excessive. Stay tuned!

@CommissarKhaine: Thanks! (Oh, and if it wasn't clear - I would not be offended if your squished Ork turns out to be one of Da Dark Angelz. In fact, I think I'd be honoured!)

@The Good Green: Thanks! If you mean the FW Warkopta - its a much bigger beast - probably even bigger than CommissarKhaine's megakopta! I find I love it from some angles, and dislike it from others - though it is much improved by having the Kommandos on board.

@Artsoldier35: I'll add you to my list (you are currently third ) - and get in contact with you via PM when I can schedule you in (Gitsplitta is first, and we haven't started yet!)

Thanks again for all the comments everyone - always good to know I'm (finally) on the right track (silly exhausts)

Arakasi

Cool!

i like how you're splitting units into kompanies the army looking really good right now

@CommissarKhaine: Thanks! (Oh, and if it wasn't clear - I would not be offended if your squished Ork turns out to be one of Da Dark Angelz. In fact, I think I'd be honoured!)

I was thinking about dropping you a pm about that, but this makes it easier. I believe I have some HE helmet wings somewhere, so expect an update soon(ish)

If you mean the FW Warkopta - its a much bigger beast - probably even bigger than CommissarKhaine's megakopta

About twice as long as mine, judging from the pics. It's a bit too much 'flat piece of junk with kopta blades' to me; the grotty gun turret is a nice idea however

Thanks again for all the comments everyone - always good to know I'm (finally) on the right track (silly exhausts)

Come on over to the crazy side, we have cookies!

Sorry for any head-scratching my post caused, easily done with the way I tend to throw a couple of random ideas out there without full explanation of what I mean
I'll try to be a bit clearer in future, but I'll put it down to being filled with enthusiasm over the lovely work I'm seeing

Tonight's update. The challenge? Spot the difference on da Deffkopta from last night...



I feel the end is in sight! I need to patch in the cables that have been left hanging since I dismantled the original Deffkopta model. Tossing up how many rivets/teef to add, if any. Some GS work to do - though actually quite minimal, and mainly on the Buzzsaw. Maybe a bit on the front, maybe a bit on the back to join two struts at the top... As I said - almost done! Comment now or forever hold your peace!

@Artsoldier35: No problem.

@moonshine: Thanks again.

@CommissarKhaine: Waiting with baited breath re wings...

@monkeytroll: No apologies necessary - it all worked out in the end!

Thanks for viewing,
Arakasi

Reinforcements on the rings around the kopta blades? That lookslike thekind of fiddly stuff you can spend all evening on. If not, they could use a few rivets, so it seems like an appropriate moment to point that out . Besides that, I'm not spotting any changes nor do I have anything to remark, so I shall hold my peace!

As for the wings: I had to add smaller ones, the big ones didn't fit with the base :(. On the right side: If you want some, I have a set of helmet wings from the HE hero left over

it would be cool if you gave a model a attack squig with a hood on- to represent da eaters in da dark

@CommissarKhaine: The reinforcements on the rings around the kopta blades were surprisingly quick and easy to do They are definitely candidate numero uno for rivets...

@moonshine: Great idea! I had planned to do something similar for Ammo runts, Oilers etc - but I hadn't thought of an Attack Squig

Only comment would be rivets on the reinforcements, but that's already been covered so....
By the way, what's the mini just out of focus on the left-side pics? Looks a little like a bionik ammo grot to me, but then again most things do these days (and I know I'll kick myself when you tell me)

cool .squigs are just another fun lil easter egg in ork armies
infact one gamer in the local gw went squig mad and used orks riding giant squigs for bikes but im sure you'll find some better stuff
btw i can't wait to see the painted koptas

@monkeytroll: A Painboy Grot Orderly.

Now, should the rivets be on the top, the side or both?

@moonshine: Neither can I, neither can I

Now, should the rivets be on the top, the side or both?

Sides seem more logical going by the way you've built it (the way I see it the reinforcement on the rings look a bit like clamps); if you use big rivets, you'll get a nice industrial look as well, always a plus with orks.

Arakasi wrote:Now, should the rivets be on the top, the side or both?

Zooming in on the rings (if that's what you're referring to), I'd say top, if only because the physical structure of the sides of the rings don't look like they'd be good candidates for riveting.

I'm with Gitsplitta on this one, it looks like several layers so you'd want to be clamping those

Hmm... /brainfart. Yes, the top would seem more logical, don't know what I was thinking - I blame it on a lack of sleep!

Well I'm glad we got some consensus there!

Guess what? COMPLETE!


Left to right, top to bottom:
1. Stock with Big Shootas (Front View)
2. Fully Loaded minus KMB (Illegal, Top View)
3. Fully Loaded minus KMB (Illegal, Front/Side View)
4. Stock with Big Shootas (Side View)
5. Avatar Scorpion Load-out (minus KMB, Buzzsaw - Illegal, Front View)
6. KMB and Big Bombs (Side View)
7. Rokkits, Big Bombs, Buzzsaw (Side View)
8. Big Shootas, Big Bombs (Rear View)
9. Rokkits, Big Bombs (Side View)

I'll leave undercoating until Monday/Tuesday next week - just in case there are any remaining nitpicks that come out over the weekend.

Gitsplitta - I can starting thinking about the boy exchange now (even if you're not ready, it will probably take me an age to complete, so a head start would be advantageous...)

Arakasi

Good job man The cabling and rivets finish it off nicely, and it looks cool with any of the load-outs.

Minor point - top view shows a bit of a gap between the exhaust halves, have you tried using Plastic Weld or similar, it does a really good job of hiding stuff like that. Although I've just realised that the top's been of mine for a couple of days now, which may explain why I've not liked spending much time in my workroom last couple of days, and over half the bottles evaporated

I'm not seeing the gap in person, though I can see where they join. If I'd thought it was a problem I would have GSed it with a few other gaps. I'll see what others think...

What is this Plastic Weld you speak of? (I'm using GW plastic glue...)

Arakasi

Too cool for school Arakasi... excellent, excellent job...

Now.... paint the bloody thing and we'll really see your talents shine!

THEN.... you can rest.

Err, yeah not really a gap as such, more just the join, another case of me not making it clear what I mean. Plastic weld is a type of liquid glue produced by EMA, sometimes referred to as liquid plastic, there's a few different varieties out there, I found it years ago when trying to fix an old klingon bird of prey which had snapped across the 'neck' part and was impressed by the invisible join it created, and tend to use it for pretty much all my plastic stuff now. It kind of melts the edges together making joins much less noticeable. I use something like revell contacta for the initial join then touch a brush dipped in plastic weld to the join and let capillary action do the rest, creates a very strong bond too. Guess I should have said Very Minor Point as it's not really an issue, was intended more as a converational hint or something(see last edit). I'll put it down to having breathed the fumes from it for the last couple of days making me extra 'nit-picky'. Or maybe just the fact that I used to bang on about the stuff to any modellers I met and haven't done so for a few years

edit: http://www.ema-models.co.uk/products/04303-plastic-weld-cement-ml.html although I've certainly never paid that for it and if that's the going rate then forget it.

edited for tiredness: Also, take anything I post late at night during the week with a pinch of salt, I function better during the early hours at weekends, but not when I've been to work and have to go agian in the morning Same with most of us I expect

Looks great man, very orky! I'd love to see that with some paint on it . Just for fun: the back cable looks like a great place to add a commercial banner like you see being pulled by still airplanes. 'Dark Angelz: taste the Waagh!

i don't mind the other glues but i think ya should stick with the g.w stuff , in my opinion it's the best
i also can't spot a gap