Why does dakka always flip photos on mobile uploads?
it's (probably) to do with the way a lot of phones (iphones especially) seem to handle the 'metadata' they attach to photos not keeping up with whether you're holding them landscape or portrait. so you take a landscape photo, but the metadata says it's portrait so when uploaded 'smart' sites like Dakka the site flips the photo to what the metadata says is the correct orientation, but of course it's not
Well I'm certainly glad to see that the teaser thousand sons they showed off a week or 2 back really was the least detailed of the bunch. They really do look amazing.
I was kind of expecting them to have small Egyptian style headdress or something to kind of tie them into the rubric marines. I can't wait to see what else they have in store.
Zywus wrote: What are those bits at the bottom of the scorpion vanguard set?
They're bits of the jump packs.
What are thy used for? I've never seen such bits included with any other jump packs.
Is is some kind of harness for putting the packs on torsos normally not used for jump marines?
They go on the back of the jumppack and are normally directly attached to it in the plastic versions of the Mk 8.
Those TS helmets are definitely ...different than what I expected. They look kinda weird but the painted models look actually nice even with the heads. Hmm I will probably get used to it.
Nvs wrote: Only the mohawkish ones look weird to me but I'm betting it's more due to the straight on picture. Looking at them from the side would really help.
I'm very pleased to see that the 30K 1KSs are not super blinged out. Would have been easy to do HEY EGPYT and call it a day. More room to paint, more room to have 30K 1KSs who aren't just resin versions of the existing Rubicon-ed 40k marines, and more idea room for 1KSs who are basically just space marines, despite how funky their legion is.
beast_gts wrote: That Damocles is the worst put-together kit I've seen on FW's site :-(
I noticed this too. It's very gapy
Looking at it, I'm fairly convinced it's dry-fitted together, not glued. Not a great thing to do with a retail image, but FW especially (and GW generally) sometimes don't use the best possible images.
I am not sure what I wanted 30k 1k Sons to look like but I am not stirred by these models. I was more (surprisingly) interested by the DA sculpts than these.
Maybe I will do a 1k Sons 40k army with the plethora of awesome 3rd party bits out there.
I'd bet their using either one of Tamiya's clear paints (like with their original Word Bearers) or their using their own Angron Red clear airbrush paint.
As a long-time Thousand Sons player, I've been looking forward to this day... I've bought a ton of various bits (GW and otherwise) over the years to do a pre-Heresy force at some point. I figured seeing FW finally jump in would be great (if probably bad for my wallet). But clearly, I haven't been tracking FW prices recently.
Is £44 (what, ~$66, plus shipping and little to no discounts to be found) for 10 models-worth of resin conversion parts *really* the FW norm now?!!? Throw in the plastics, and that'd be ~$100 for a single squad of bog-standard tactical marines.
Wow... I... just can't process that to be honest.
I really don't mean to turn this into a complaint about GW/FW prices, but my flabber has quite literally been gasted by those prices.
cygnnus wrote: As a long-time Thousand Sons player, I've been looking forward to this day... I've bought a ton of various bits (GW and otherwise) over the years to do a pre-Heresy force at some point. I figured seeing FW finally jump in would be great (if probably bad for my wallet). But clearly, I haven't been tracking FW prices recently.
Is £44 (what, ~$66, plus shipping and little to no discounts to be found) for 10 models-worth of resin conversion parts *really* the FW norm now?!!? Throw in the plastics, and that'd be ~$100 for a single squad of bog-standard tactical marines.
Wow... I... just can't process that to be honest.
I really don't mean to turn this into a complaint about GW/FW prices, but my flabber has quite literally been gasted by those prices.
Just, wow...
Valete,
JohnS
buy a battle at calth box for 30 then upgrades as needed or is that what you meant by plastics?
cygnnus wrote: As a long-time Thousand Sons player, I've been looking forward to this day... I've bought a ton of various bits (GW and otherwise) over the years to do a pre-Heresy force at some point. I figured seeing FW finally jump in would be great (if probably bad for my wallet). But clearly, I haven't been tracking FW prices recently.
Is £44 (what, ~$66, plus shipping and little to no discounts to be found) for 10 models-worth of resin conversion parts *really* the FW norm now?!!? Throw in the plastics, and that'd be ~$100 for a single squad of bog-standard tactical marines.
Wow... I... just can't process that to be honest.
I really don't mean to turn this into a complaint about GW/FW prices, but my flabber has quite literally been gasted by those prices.
Just, wow...
Valete,
JohnS
I don't think you're meant to use the upgrades for every single marine. Well, I'm sure FW would love you to, but it's not financially viable really. Most people just sprinkle them through the marines for a bit of variety.
I don't think you're meant to use the upgrades for every single marine. Well, I'm sure FW would love you to, but it's not financially viable really. Most people just sprinkle them through the marines for a bit of variety.
See when I use legion upgrades, my thinking is that the bling would only really be on the marines who were recruited from the Primarch's home world. The non-bling guys would be those recruited prior to being re-united with their Primarch... Just a thought.
The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
Mr. Grey wrote: The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
And @angelofvengeance and @imageek, that doesn't work for me... The pre-Heresy legions were not struggling to bash kit together to equip their Legionnaires like they were during the latter stages of the Heresy or like the Chapters must by the 40k era. Having mix-and-match armor and "bling", to me, just doesn't look good.
If I'm doing a Legion, I want it to look the part as a cohesive whole. I have no interest in the look of mix-and-match armor. <shrug>
There are, at least, some other options for things like the helmets from other companies, and maybe FW will come up with some amazing 1kSons-exclusive specialty units/characters that'll tempt me, but as of right now, I guess (even though I've been a Thousand Sons player for a long time) I can't see myself building a Heresy-era Sons force using FW parts.
Mr. Grey wrote: The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
And @angelofvengeance and @imageek, that doesn't work for me... The pre-Heresy legions were not struggling to bash kit together to equip their Legionnaires like they were during the latter stages of the Heresy or like the Chapters must by the 40k era. Having mix-and-match armor and "bling", to me, just doesn't look good.
If I'm doing a Legion, I want it to look the part as a cohesive whole. I have no interest in the look of mix-and-match armor. <shrug>
While the supply situation was certainly better during the crusade than during the heresy I never got the feeling that all the legions were immediately re-supplied all the time. They were attached to sometimes far-flung expeditionary fleets and there may have been years between major resupplies from Terra or other major imperial centres. Much of the day-to-day maintenance were done through repairs and rudimentary ship-based manufacturing.
Of course one might prefer the aestetic of a more cohesive 30k force but I'd say it's well within the scope of the background to have plenty of individual variation.
I emailed FW asking about additional heads and guns for the Warlord, expecting a non answer. That is pretty much what I got, but they did say the Warhammer World head was already out. Is anyone going to be going to WHW that can check that out for me?
I emailed FW to find out how they achieved that nice metallic red effect, here's what they said:
"Thank you for your email. Here is the Thousand Sons Colour Scheme you inquired about -
Thousand Sons
Metallic Scheme:
It is black undercoat, airbrush with Iron hands FW paint leaving the lower parts of the armour plates black, airbrush upper parts of the armour plates with runefang steel as a highlight.
Then a few thinned layers of clear red are airbrushed all over, waiting for the previous layer to dry before applying the next (so it would be useful to paint large batches of marines at the same time).
Shade the recesses with nuln oil and then weather the edges with runefang steel.
The gold is retributor gold, shaded with seraphim sepia and highlighted with runefang steel.
The brass is runelord brass, shaded with seraphim sepia.
The eyes are painted black, single line in the centre with white and then washed with FW clear green paint.
The white on the bolters and legion icon is celestra grey, ulthuan grey and then white highlights. The hollow tactical arrow is from the Iron Warriors transfer sheet."
I got this reply scant hours after I sent the email, FW customer support are grand people.
Really love the 1k Sons helmets, but a little disappointed with the four bodies on the left of the picture - they seem quite plain compared to the artwork and the other body upgrades.
Mr. Grey wrote: The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
I've always seen it as the full upgrades are more for veterans, the ones who have earned their bling, and everyone else (the scrubs) just get the marked shoulderpads.
Dr. Delorean wrote: I emailed FW to find out how they achieved that nice metallic red effect, here's what they said:
"Thank you for your email. Here is the Thousand Sons Colour Scheme you inquired about -
Thousand Sons
Metallic Scheme:
It is black undercoat, airbrush with Iron hands FW paint leaving the lower parts of the armour plates black, airbrush upper parts of the armour plates with runefang steel as a highlight.
Then a few thinned layers of clear red are airbrushed all over, waiting for the previous layer to dry before applying the next (so it would be useful to paint large batches of marines at the same time).
Shade the recesses with nuln oil and then weather the edges with runefang steel.
The gold is retributor gold, shaded with seraphim sepia and highlighted with runefang steel.
The brass is runelord brass, shaded with seraphim sepia.
The eyes are painted black, single line in the centre with white and then washed with FW clear green paint.
The white on the bolters and legion icon is celestra grey, ulthuan grey and then white highlights. The hollow tactical arrow is from the Iron Warriors transfer sheet."
I got this reply scant hours after I sent the email, FW customer support are grand people.
Now this is great stuff since that paint scheme is probably the best I've seen...
Mr. Grey wrote: The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
I've always seen it as the full upgrades are more for veterans, the ones who have earned their bling, and everyone else (the scrubs) just get the marked shoulderpads.
I can see that. I'd consider doing something along those lines for an Alpha Legion Headhunter team, maybe. (If Headhunters don't get their own unique models or whatever.)
While I like the TSons upgrade pack I am disappointed about the lack of variety that it offers. Three different torsos and four helmets does seem a little lazy for the price that they charge. When I picture what a standard marine looks like I see them as each having their own unique flair, take this picture for example.
On a more positive note, those are some beautifully painted models. Turns out FW does know how to do infantry after all! Thanks for getting the recipe the used Delorean
Commander Cain wrote: While I like the TSons upgrade pack I am disappointed about the lack of variety that it offers. Three different torsos and four helmets does seem a little lazy for the price that they charge. When I picture what a standard marine looks like I see them as each having their own unique flair, take this picture for example.
On a more positive note, those are some beautifully painted models. Turns out FW does know how to do infantry after all! Thanks for getting the recipe the used Delorean
Remember this is just the first Thousand sons parts we have seen, there will be plenty of special units and some characters to follow and maybe even some more upgrades yet !
Mr. Grey wrote: The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
And @angelofvengeance and @imageek, that doesn't work for me... The pre-Heresy legions were not struggling to bash kit together to equip their Legionnaires like they were during the latter stages of the Heresy or like the Chapters must by the 40k era. Having mix-and-match armor and "bling", to me, just doesn't look good.
If I'm doing a Legion, I want it to look the part as a cohesive whole. I have no interest in the look of mix-and-match armor. <shrug>
There are, at least, some other options for things like the helmets from other companies, and maybe FW will come up with some amazing 1kSons-exclusive specialty units/characters that'll tempt me, but as of right now, I guess (even though I've been a Thousand Sons player for a long time) I can't see myself building a Heresy-era Sons force using FW parts.
Valete,
JohnS
John,
If I was starting 1KSons and was trying to keep the cost more manageable, I'd probably focus on using the helmets throughout. They're nice, and the head is usually a focal point for a mini anyway. I'd use the torsos on vets and sergeants, and skip on the molded pads in favor of transfers, which aren't out yet but will be by the time the Prospero book drops in 2016. I know what you're saying about wanting everything to look cohesive, but I think the helmets, insignia, and unified color scheme would do most of the heavy lifting there.
At least these upgrade bits are nice. I'm working on World Eaters, and while they've gotten a good amount of love overall from FW, I'm not crazy about their helmets or torsos. Especially since they're Mk.2 styled and I'm building on Mk.4 chassis. I really wish they'd done Sarum-pattern helmets instead. Anyway, as a result I'm only using the torsos here and there, and using the bunny-eared helmets on sergeants. I may convert my own Sarum helmets (and bunny ears) at some point using Mk.7 helmets.
I think almost every HH player has made some hard choices like this regarding their army, just because the prices will make your eyes water.
BTW, I was hoping to be ready to make the Old Line Massacre event down your way this spring (assuming they're having it again), but I'm not sure if I'll have my army done by then.
Mr. Grey wrote: The point with the upgrade packs(IMO)is to use them sparingly, so that one marine here might have a Legion-specific helmet, and this guy over here has the torso armor, and so on.
That said, Thousand Sons were my very first power armor 40k armies, and one of my very favorite forces in the entire 30k/40k universe.
So, I'm going to be poor, outfitting everybody with upgrady goodness.
It's worrying that my Thousand Sons (who are obviously Thousand Sons due to the sculpts) that were built using the original upgrade packs cost £36 (at full, current RRP - I spent roughly £28 per squad).
Compare that to the FW upgrade pack at £44 for rather plain pieces BEFORE adding the chaos space marine parts from the tactical squad set.... eurgh, that's £67.50 est....
Better off buying the original GW ones and painting them red.
To illustrate my point on detail (and price).... here are some parts from a competitor
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Each kit works out at £17.51......
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EDIT: Just noticed someone else has also had the same idea above!
Personally I dislike the idea of legionnaries walking around with torso armor to one MK and and a helmet from another and arms from another just to 'bling' them out. Honestly I don't even like the legion specific armor even as a concept. It would make sense in 40k but not in 30k. Legionnaries were mass produced armor that is seen as just armor. Not a suit of armor a techpriest spent 100 years building to give to a chapter or a chaos marines personal embellishments and represents a walking church prayer.
To me legionnaries should look like they are wearing armor that went through an assembly line. Tactical markings, legion markings all just sprayed on and given to the legionnarie to wear until it can not longer make the mission and gets scrapped for a new suit.
Maybe veterans and suits of artificed armor would be embellished or legion specific units that look unique because they are unique. However, a line legionnarie to me should look just like every other line legionnarie.
Wulfmar wrote: It's worrying that my Thousand Sons (who are obviously Thousand Sons due to the sculpts) that were built using the original upgrade packs cost £36 (at full, current RRP - I spent roughly £28 per squad).
Compare that to the FW upgrade pack at £44 for rather plain pieces BEFORE adding the chaos space marine parts from the tactical squad set.... eurgh, that's £67.50 est....
Better off buying the original GW ones and painting them red.
To illustrate my point on detail (and price).... here are some parts from a competitor
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Each kit works out at £17.51......
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EDIT: Just noticed someone else has also had the same idea above!
They work quite a bit better for pre-Heresy Thousand Sons IMHO, although all of the above are brilliant for 40k 1kSons. €6.99 for 10 heads and, when I ordered mine, Maxmini were happy to let me order the specific mix of heads. I particularly link the first and last for Thousand Sons myself.
BrotherGecko wrote: Personally I dislike the idea of legionnaries walking around with torso armor to one MK and and a helmet from another and arms from another just to 'bling' them out. Honestly I don't even like the legion specific armor even as a concept. It would make sense in 40k but not in 30k. Legionnaries were mass produced armor that is seen as just armor. Not a suit of armor a techpriest spent 100 years building to give to a chapter or a chaos marines personal embellishments and represents a walking church prayer.
To me legionnaries should look like they are wearing armor that went through an assembly line. Tactical markings, legion markings all just sprayed on and given to the legionnarie to wear until it can not longer make the mission and gets scrapped for a new suit.
Maybe veterans and suits of artificed armor would be embellished or legion specific units that look unique because they are unique. However, a line legionnarie to me should look just like every other line legionnarie.
Well at least thats my 2 cents lol.
Legion specific bling has been in the HH imagery since the HH card game, though. So, what, 2003? Sure, that doesn't date all the way back to the snippets we got in the early days, but there wasn't a whole lot of information to go on in those days, either.
The Index Astartes series of articles, from even before the HH card game, showed varying degrees of legion specific bling, from Alpha Legion (none at all), Space Wolves (wolf pelt covering the left shoulder plate and a wolf tail talisman, Dark Angels (again, none), Iron Warriors (3D legion symbol on shoulder plate and cog tooth type bling on the feet and legs), and even as simple as a hanging tabard on a Thousand Sons legionnaire.
The point is, to an extent, legion specific armor variance, or "bling" has been a thing for well over a decade now, it's not a recent invention of Forgeworld.
I'm sure that many, even most, line legionaries in some companies of any given legion were assembly line identical, so you can clearly model your legion to fit that aesthetic. I'm equally sure that in other companies of any given legion, personalization and customization of equipment was far more widespread, so I can happily model to a different look than you, and we'd both be correct.
I can see both arguments for bling and the lack of it. I can't see the price tag justification though - it's as ornate as a normal CSM tactical sprue and twice the price for half the model
On reflection (and spending more time looking closely at the shoulder pads), I'm going just heads and torsos, and shoulder pads will get the transfers when they get to those.
The legion specific armor variants are because of how wide spread Legion operations took place and the amount of autonomy and resources they were afforded during this era. Many of the fleets fly along with Mechanicum factory ships producing materiale where ever the crusade goes. Consider if a legion went to a planet where a different type of respirator or filtration plug was needed on their armor they'd get what they needed. Consider all the different environments they encountered over the hundreds of years across countless planets and you're going to have some variation. Then add distinct honors and legion preferences and you have all the variants.
If they're still able to turn their heads then your not doing 1ksons right :-)
I'm more for go big or go home bling, like those ridiculous maxmini bits. Otherwise you risk being subtle and boring, a sort of head fin and a scarab on the lapel you say, yaaaaawn. I'm not paying that much moneys for bits that someone will squint at and sort of see how they could be 1ksons, maybe.
Would have liked helmets more like that (gakky ) 1k Sons book, with the little mini-crest, before Tzintch was all Naw bro like THIS and gave them all neck problems.
I noticed in book 4(?) it said the death guard upgrade parts were of unknown origin but were suspected produced at anvillus nine. I'd love to do a anvillus nine tagmata army, but there's scant little information on what apparently is a major forgeworld, including the livery used. :(
I'm less disappointed by the parts and more that they seem to be going with the red & gold scheme rather than red & white as seen in the Collected Visions book.
Yodhrin wrote: I'm less disappointed by the parts and more that they seem to be going with the red & gold scheme rather than red & white as seen in the Collected Visions book.
A mix of both I think, there are white details on the models.
Or just variations in production. Some armour may not feature the gilding and instead it may have been desirable/practical to simply paint the various accents white.
Zuul wrote: I noticed in book 4(?) it said the death guard upgrade parts were of unknown origin but were suspected produced at anvillus nine. I'd love to do a anvillus nine tagmata army, but there's scant little information on what apparently is a major forgeworld, including the livery used. :(
Hmm, I suspect they will get to Anvilus IX at some point though- it has been mentioned a good few times. It seems to both produce a good chunk of the experimental Legion gear (innovation! In the Mechanicus! ) and also most of the Imperium's Land Raiders. We don't know what happened to it either, only that it's production capacity was lost to the Imperium, which was why the Emperor gave his 'Land Raider's are only for Astartes' decree.
Perhaps if/when they do a Mechanicus-themed HH book, that will feature more about the major FWs.
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Zuul wrote: Or just variations in production. Some armour may not feature the gilding and instead it may have been desirable/practical to simply paint the various accents white.
Yeah, there is a good deal of variation in the Legion colours in the HH books so far, something I think is great.
There is a limited option in the Militia list in Book 5 yeah, but you have to take the Survivors of the Dark Age provenance. Currently though, we don't have rules for the mainstream Regiments, only rules for the elite of the Imperial Army (the Solar Auxilia) and the basic levies with the militia. The Solar Auxilia don't use Land Raiders. It is also possible that the Rogue Trader Militant list (which FW has mentioned in publications) will feature Land Raiders as an option if/when it appears.
Why the sudden interest in Red Scorpions? Well, I’ve just heard that the Chapter, and the heroic Carab Culln, will be making a return in 2016 with a new Imperial Armour book! That’s all I’ve got right now, but when I know more you will too.
Each Christmas they have done a Jigsaw puzzle of an upcoming release, I think last year was Mortarion or the death guard character that my mind just cannot pull up at the moment.
Each Christmas they have done a Jigsaw puzzle of an upcoming release, I think last year was Mortarion or the death guard character that my mind just cannot pull up at the moment.
Edit: Typhon/Typhus
Typhon is way older ... last year's jigsaw was Pollux
The lightning under the Imperial Eagle might really point towards Dorn because the Fists often have lightning symbols on their armor .... Khan is far away from release IMO
if you zoom in on the image (its higher resolution on the FW site), it look like one of the grill lines on his helmet is actually cross shaped, so he could be an imperial fist...?
edit: or it could just be a slash/battle damage
angelofvengeance wrote: Hi- so I saw this on Instagram this weekend. It's supposedly Alpharius. Not sure if it's a 3rd party(feels like it) or genuine Forge World.. Comments?
Its probably not a Primarch as the dude getting whacked does seem to have received his blow from a height comparable with his own height and not from somebody on top of a massive ruin, wreaked tank hull, window sill or stepladder which seems to be the norm for a Primarch at the moment.
Dorn doesn't interest me, and a massive two-handed chainsword feels very out of character for him (I expected hammer + shield before they began going on about his sword).
Ashiraya wrote: Dorn doesn't interest me, and a massive two-handed chainsword feels very out of character for him (I expected hammer + shield before they began going on about his sword).
So I hope for Corax.
Nah Fam. Its Dorn. We need Rogal Dorn. Rogal Dorn and his Vanilla marines.
Fireball wrote: I like that the sculpted base is not that oversized ... I am currently painting Perturabo and freaking out a bit about that base
Since you have the model, do you think it detracts from Perty himself? I love my Iron Warriors, and I've painted Angron and Fulgrim because I like the detail in the primarchs, but that knight seems to detract from him in most of the paint jobs I've seen. Which is unfortunate because he's a pretty big guy in terms of actual size compared to the other primachs.
Also, I planned on painting Dorn, Corax, and Alpharius so it didn't matter to me who was coming out... I'm always excited to see a new primarch.
Fireball wrote: I like that the sculpted base is not that oversized ... I am currently painting Perturabo and freaking out a bit about that base
Since you have the model, do you think it detracts from Perty himself? I love my Iron Warriors, and I've painted Angron and Fulgrim because I like the detail in the primarchs, but that knight seems to detract from him in most of the paint jobs I've seen. Which is unfortunate because he's a pretty big guy in terms of actual size compared to the other primachs.
Also, I planned on painting Dorn, Corax, and Alpharius so it didn't matter to me who was coming out... I'm always excited to see a new primarch.
Perty really seems bigger than all previously released Primarchs, but maybe his armor is even more heavier and then he is on par with Horus and Vulkan.
About the base ... it depends on the paintjob compared to the Primarch I guess. I paint the bases rather dirty and don't go into too much detail - instead I paint the Primarch very clean so that he automatically stands out. Of course Perty will be the first one with an iron armor which might stand out less than e.g. a blue Guliman ...
Overall the model is so impressive that you should give it a try ...
Jpogfreak886 wrote: Also, I planned on painting Dorn, Corax, and Alpharius so it didn't matter to me who was coming out... I'm always excited to see a new primarch.
Likewise I collect Heresy era Imperial Fists too. Just find it interesting to see the models of such unique characters.
Well the little one falling over is obviously the American people falling over in awe which leaves big donald as the noise marine ready to be revealed??
Knockagh wrote: Well the little one falling over is obviously the American people falling over in awe which leaves big donald as the noise marine ready to be revealed??
They deliberately referred to his weapons as 'panoply of the Raven Lord' in book 3 so as to reflect him changing. I think it will either be claw + whip or 2x claw with whip taking pride of place on the belt at a guess
Knockagh wrote: Well the little one falling over is obviously the American people falling over in awe which leaves big donald as the noise marine ready to be revealed??
High quality political satire there
Quick, somebody graft the fat Bretonnian Men at Arms head onto a Kakophonoi and sculpt on a gratuitous head-merkin.
During his escape from Istvaan - you can take him for cheaper points wise without his jump pack and with a heavy bolter instead of his other weapons to represent his 100 day escape from the drop site massacre.
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Januine wrote: Lightning claws - please make it the claws!! Could be buying my first primarch model! Any idea when they'll be releasing him for sale?
Apparantly he'll be available at the birthday thing at Warhammer World in January so it shouldn't be long after that.
It could definitely still be Alpharius - you know what he's like.
The top piece of the jigsaw will be removed and everyone will be wondering why Corax is bald.
Then when the middle bits go it will turn out that Alpharius was just holding the pinions up like a cheerleader's pom-poms to troll everybody.
Also the MK3 marine that looks like he's been hit will actually turn out to be Omegon doing a backflip. The set will come with a spare, identical bald head to make this more obvious.
With the pose of his victim, I'm expecting him to have the whip in his left hand. Twin claws work for me though.
He's the last thing I want from FW/GW , I've pretty much given up on 40K otherwise so I'm excited
Not when he's standing on the patented Forgeworld Primarch Extendo-Rubble base that allows them to up the price and height by 50% for all that glorious ruin!
During his escape from Istvaan - you can take him for cheaper points wise without his jump pack and with a heavy bolter instead of his other weapons to represent his 100 day escape from the drop site massacre.
The HB just replaces his Archaeotech pistols. He still has the claws and whip during the run-hit-run phase of the Dropsite Massacre.
During his escape from Istvaan - you can take him for cheaper points wise without his jump pack and with a heavy bolter instead of his other weapons to represent his 100 day escape from the drop site massacre.
The HB just replaces his Archaeotech pistols. He still has the claws and whip during the run-hit-run phase of the Dropsite Massacre.
Yeah I couldn't remember which it was and my books at home. Cheers.
Koppo wrote: Well, pop goes my theory that the main subject of the model was not standing on top ruins, vehicle or a step ladder.
Also, Riverdance?
I do like the ruins a lot more than I like Perturabo's gigantic wreck of a base. From the way his foot is angled/placed, it looks like he's just landed and done a sort of impact thing.
Koppo wrote: Well, pop goes my theory that the main subject of the model was not standing on top ruins, vehicle or a step ladder.
Also, Riverdance?
I do like the ruins a lot more than I like Perturabo's gigantic wreck of a base. From the way his foot is angled/placed, it looks like he's just landed and done a sort of impact thing.
I finished painting the Perturabo base yesterday ... this Corax one will only take a quarter of the time I guess
Crystal-Maze wrote: It could definitely still be Alpharius - you know what he's like.
The top piece of the jigsaw will be removed and everyone will be wondering why Corax is bald.
Then when the middle bits go it will turn out that Alpharius was just holding the pinions up like a cheerleader's pom-poms to troll everybody.
Also the MK3 marine that looks like he's been hit will actually turn out to be Omegon doing a backflip. The set will come with a spare, identical bald head to make this more obvious.
I think It would be a most excellent way to release Alpharius if they don't show him ahead of time, but randomly pick 20 orders for primarchs and instead of shipping the order the person places send them an Alpharius, followed the next day by their order and a note saying you've been infiltrated , keep the Alpharius, or Omegon will find you.
I think even after we have the complete photo, it'll be hard to judge his size. The perspective makes it hard to judge; that dead marine seems to be on the front edge of the base and Corax is standing on the back.
Ashiraya wrote: Aww, I almost hoped he would have wind-defying super-hair to keep his hairdo rather than get Fulgrim hair.
Yeah. I love everything except the head, which I have the same problems I have with Fulgrims head too. I was expecting his hair to be down which doesn't make sense with the pose but I'm a bit dissapointed with anyway. But I love the rest of the model.
I don't care for the hair, but it is fitting given that he is putting a crater into the rocks he is landing on. I wonder if he will have options for the whip and the lightning claw.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I don't care for the hair, but it is fitting given that he is putting a crater into the rocks he is landing on. I wonder if he will have options for the whip and the lightning claw.
He already has both lighting claws; the one on the gun hand is retracted. You might be able to build it extended.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I don't care for the hair, but it is fitting given that he is putting a crater into the rocks he is landing on. I wonder if he will have options for the whip and the lightning claw.
I think that might be the handle of his whip sticking out off of his back. if that;s the case, it looks like it won't be easy to model it in use.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I don't care for the hair, but it is fitting given that he is putting a crater into the rocks he is landing on. I wonder if he will have options for the whip and the lightning claw.
I think that might be the handle of his whip sticking out off of his back. if that;s the case, it looks like it won't be easy to model it in use.
Yeah, I was kind of figuring that. I thought they had actually depicted him with the handle in his hand, but it is actually a bolt pistol (you know, the weapon he is best known for using...).
casvalremdeikun wrote: I don't care for the hair, but it is fitting given that he is putting a crater into the rocks he is landing on. I wonder if he will have options for the whip and the lightning claw.
He already has both lighting claws; the one on the gun hand is retracted. You might be able to build it extended.
I kind of figured, that shouldn't be hard enough to do. FYI, I don't play RG, nor will I start an RG legion (I really love my Imperial Fists), but I was really hoping that the miniature would be near perfect for those people that do. I need to get Alexis Polux. I love that miniature.
It's an Archaotech pistol that he does have in the rules. A whip would be hard to do in resin without breaking, they might include one though, we'll have to see.
I do/will play RG, and it is near perfect for me. Just the hair! Hopefully it grows on me.
I think this is one of the better primarchs. Very dynamic, captures re-entry to battle very well. I would love that second claw to be extendable when building. They've nailed the pinions.
ImAGeek wrote: It's an Archaotech pistol that he does have in the rules. A whip would be hard to do in resin without breaking, they might include one though, we'll have to see.
I do/will play RG, and it is near perfect for me. Just the hair! Hopefully it grows on me.
Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. In that case, the pistol is fine. I didn't have the book handy so I couldn't recall his pistol being at all special. The whip definitely would be hard to do, but then they should have just had both claws extended.
Part of the problem is that Corax always is shown with his hair falling onto his shoulders (and rocking bangs), but here it is all up in the air. I get that it supposed to be flying upward due to the speed he is hitting the ground, but it is jarring to see his hair different than all other appearances.
Yeah. I was expecting his hair down (my own fault really with the pose) so it was a bit dissapointing. I need to see it close up and painted. I still think he'll be my first Primarch purchase.
ImAGeek wrote: Yeah. I was expecting his hair down (my own fault really with the pose) so it was a bit dissapointing. I need to see it close up and painted. I still think he'll be my first Primarch purchase.
Sanguinius will be for me. Or maybe Dorn. If I start a 30K army, it is probably going to be Imperial Fists, but I still want Sanguinius because I love Blood Angels.
ImAGeek wrote: Yeah. I was expecting his hair down (my own fault really with the pose) so it was a bit dissapointing. I need to see it close up and painted. I still think he'll be my first Primarch purchase.
Sanguinius will be for me. Or maybe Dorn. If I start a 30K army, it is probably going to be Imperial Fists, but I still want Sanguinius because I love Blood Angels.
I like this model, but I agree that the hair is the weakest part. He looks really good though, and I like that they didn't try to bling him up too much, but let the pose and his personality do the talking.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I really hate helmetless Space Marines. If I were to give Alexis Polux a helmet, what Mark would he need?
MkIII I think, but I've heard it's hard to get a helmet to fit because of the gorget. Any mark will work really because his armour isn't standard but it has most in common with MkIII.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I really hate helmetless Space Marines. If I were to give Alexis Polux a helmet, what Mark would he need?
MkIII I think, but I've heard it's hard to get a helmet to fit because of the gorget. Any mark will work really because his armour isn't standard but it has most in common with MkIII.
hmmm, that sucks if a helmet doesn't fit well. It blows my mind that the model for an expert in void combat doesn't have a helmet.
Red Corsair wrote: Why is corax pointing a tail pipe at that marine whose falling backwards?
Corax: "Quick grab this pipe" Marine: "No, it's poopy I won't do it! AHHH!"
lol
"PULL MY FINGER"
Do you think the primarchs told their Marines dad jokes, or the Emperor to his primarchs? Maybe that's why Angron is in such a bad mood
"Father Emperor, I am ANGRY" "Hi Angry, I am the Emperor" "I AM fething SERIOUS" "Really, I thought you were Angry?" "ARE YOU FOR REAL?!" "No...I'm the Emperor, remember?"
Of course I am going to be buying this model, I just really hope that the jump pack has a primary unit in back or something. Otherwise I am decently happy with corax, the whip would of broke too easy if it was uncurled and being used. Plus the lightning claw(s?) look pretty cool.
I'm not really a fan. I don't dislike him but I certainly don't like him overall either. The size, posing, backpack, and especially hair don't appeal to me. Fulgrim and Vulkan IMO are still worse than him but he's definitely in the bottom half of Primarchs released so far for me.
My favorite book was "Thousand Sons", when Ahriman contemplated how stupid fighting without a helmet was as he was head shotting Space Wolves lol.
Full suit of armor protecting the less important parts, no helmet. Man I love sci-fi writers.
This is precisely why every one of my troops who wears full armor gets a helmet. Sadly, though, I do have to make exceptions, such as Primarchs.
I liked the part in Unremembered empire where Robot Girlyman is getting punked in his office and he thinks to himself how bad it would be to catch a round in his head .
My favorite book was "Thousand Sons", when Ahriman contemplated how stupid fighting without a helmet was as he was head shotting Space Wolves lol.
Full suit of armor protecting the less important parts, no helmet. Man I love sci-fi writers.
This is precisely why every one of my troops who wears full armor gets a helmet. Sadly, though, I do have to make exceptions, such as Primarchs.
Is he at least smart enough to take his helmet with him, and hang his helmet on his belt when he's not actively wearing it?
My SM Sergeants are at least that smart...
Would it even matter? Doesn't 'Look out sir!' make even precision shots or strikes against things like sergeants or characters a general waste of time? I mean seriously old redshirt dip **** is generally the one to bite it. I'd prefer to give my special weapons dudes helmets though. They tend to get no 'LoS'.
aka_mythos wrote: I don't think helmets would really matter to anyone with a Iron Halo or other similar force field projector.
Then why wear any armor? That's the point, why armor the body but not the most important part. It has absolutely no logic. Helmets are the first thing you wear for protection, not the last. If he had a helmet on but no body armor, that would at least make sense(and it's how the real world works).
It's for the rule of cool, but that is subjective. I think it looks stupid. Which is why a number of people would prefer they at least gave you 2 head options, like some of the other character series. Then people who like flowing hair can have it. It really sucks for Vulkan as an example, since his helmet could have been epic.
aka_mythos wrote: I don't think helmets would really matter to anyone with a Iron Halo or other similar force field projector.
Then why wear any armor? That's the point, why armor the body but not the most important part. It has absolutely no logic. Helmets are the first thing you wear for protection, not the last. If he had a helmet on but no body armor, that would at least make sense(and it's how the real world works).
It's for the rule of cool, but that is subjective. I think it looks stupid. Which is why a number of people would prefer they at least gave you 2 head options, like some of the other character series. Then people who like flowing hair can have it. It really sucks for Vulkan as an example, since his helmet could have been epic.
Just my opinion of course!
My Sargents thought ahead and had their brains surgically relocated! Trump that!
aka_mythos wrote: I don't think helmets would really matter to anyone with a Iron Halo or other similar force field projector.
Then why wear any armor? That's the point, why armor the body but not the most important part. It has absolutely no logic. Helmets are the first thing you wear for protection, not the last. If he had a helmet on but no body armor, that would at least make sense(and it's how the real world works).
It's for the rule of cool, but that is subjective. I think it looks stupid. Which is why a number of people would prefer they at least gave you 2 head options, like some of the other character series. Then people who like flowing hair can have it. It really sucks for Vulkan as an example, since his helmet could have been epic.
Just my opinion of course!
Look at any fully enclosing helmet; it restricts the wearers field of view, even if it enhances viewing modes or other senses. Like real tanks, I imagine being a walking tank has the similar quality where survivability has a direct relationship to situational awareness. Where marine sergeants and commanders forgo helmets for the sake of situational awareness to improve their units survivability even if it means risking their own. Further, consider how rarely Marine Sergeants die first when all their subordinates are seemingly willing to throw themselves in the way by means of "look out sir!"; who needs a helmet when you've got friends like that.
aka_mythos wrote: I don't think helmets would really matter to anyone with a Iron Halo or other similar force field projector.
Then why wear any armor? That's the point, why armor the body but not the most important part. It has absolutely no logic. Helmets are the first thing you wear for protection, not the last. If he had a helmet on but no body armor, that would at least make sense(and it's how the real world works).
It's for the rule of cool, but that is subjective. I think it looks stupid. Which is why a number of people would prefer they at least gave you 2 head options, like some of the other character series. Then people who like flowing hair can have it. It really sucks for Vulkan as an example, since his helmet could have been epic.
Just my opinion of course!
Look at any fully enclosing helmet; it restricts the wearers field of view, even if it enhances viewing modes or other senses. Like real tanks, I imagine being a walking tank has the similar quality where survivability has a direct relationship to situational awareness. Where marine sergeants and commanders forgo helmets for the sake of situational awareness to improve their units survivability even if it means risking their own. Further, consider how rarely Marine Sergeants die first when all their subordinates are seemingly willing to throw themselves in the way by means of "look out sir!"; who needs a helmet when you've got friends like that.
I thought I read somewhere that space marine helmets are so advanced that the wearer isn't impaired at all. They have full field of vision, smell, and sound, with the added tactical information displays.
Raven Guard dark fury assault squad previewed today:
And FFS, what were you thinking FW? This is horrible. The proportions are completely off (broad shoulders and too short), the jump pack is just awful, and the pose is not impressing me. I'd had really high hopes for these after seeing the sniper squad, but wow. Maybe it will be possible to salvage some of the pieces and use them for conversions at least...
Ouch ... that looks like the worst special unit since the World Eaters Terminators ... the winged jump pack is way too big for a power armor marine ...
Glorious stuff. Really digging the Corax. Definitely be getting him in the new year. Only thing I'd change is that naff helmet. That niggle aside, fantastic job they've done on this one
yeah, picture of Corax is way better ... now he looks big enough for a Primarch ... still all these details on a black armor will be difficult to paint
Liking the Raven Guard jump packs. Is that Reflex tech stuff? Also to those of you having a whinge, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. The Sanguinary Guard jump packs in 40K are much worse IMO and I refuse to have them in my BA force. I'll keep the nipple plate armour but they're getting Vanguard Vets jump packs.
The new image does help a bit but you still have the pencil troll hair and the Zap Brannigan pistol. Both are showstoppers for me and I wouldn't buy that model. I would have preferred a just about to take flight Corax instead of yet another forgeworld named character killing a leaning back nameless grunt on top of a bunch of rubble pose.
Desubot wrote: I'm surprised his Jet pack intakes haven't given him a buzz cut
Fantastic details though.
The emperor, in his infinity wisdom, designed each Primarch's hairdo apparently to withstand both wind, turbines, fire both bolter and regular, and frizz without the need for product.
Desubot wrote: I'm surprised his Jet pack intakes haven't given him a buzz cut
Fantastic details though.
The emperor, in his infinity wisdom, designed each Primarch's hairdo apparently to withstand both wind, turbines, fire both bolter and regular, and frizz without the need for product.
Thats why Ferrus met his end, he didn't have hair to protect his head
But honestly, the Raven Guard stuff looks great to me, between the snipers, jump guys and Corax, I am really tempted to start 500 points of RG and the Primarch... I'm seriously on my way to having a bit of each Legion.
Desubot wrote: I'm surprised his Jet pack intakes haven't given him a buzz cut
Fantastic details though.
The emperor, in his infinity wisdom, designed each Primarch's hairdo apparently to withstand both wind, turbines, fire both bolter and regular, and frizz without the need for product.
Thats why Ferrus met his end, he didn't have hair to protect his head
But honestly, the Raven Guard stuff looks great to me, between the snipers, jump guys and Corax, I am really tempted to start 500 points of RG and the Primarch... I'm seriously on my way to having a bit of each Legion.
I'm in the same boat! Every legion is cool enough that I want to start a collection of them
angelofvengeance wrote: Liking the Raven Guard jump packs. Is that Reflex tech stuff? Also to those of you having a whinge, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. The Sanguinary Guard jump packs in 40K are much worse IMO and I refuse to have them in my BA force. I'll keep the nipple plate armour but they're getting Vanguard Vets jump packs.
I think the problem for me is that they have those huge wings like they're supposed to be ornate and stylized armor, but they're just a flat outline cut out of a sheet of plastic. It's like the sculptor stopped working on it after putting together the rough draft, and FW rushed it out to meet a deadline. If they weren't going to add more detail to the wings I would've preferred to have a normal jump pack with subtle decorations, like this:
-Will be available from the Horus Heresy Weekender
-Rites of Wars for Blood Angels, Dark Angels, White Scars and Shattered Legions. Possible new Rites for certain legions
-Tylos Rubio is being worked on right now by Israel
-No characters/units for new legions
-There will be a Meduson character that can be used as a HQ for all Shattered Legion armies. As he is so close with the Raven Guard and Salamanders he can be used in different army lists with the alternative Rites of War
-Certain equipment will be mentioned for each legion such as multi plasma arrangements for the Dark Angels and a special Glaive hand to hand weapon for
the White Scars.
-The Keshig will be upcoming for White Scars
-A new bike has been finished by Blake.
-Mastodon and Stormbird will appear
Further info we have also found out:
-Darren Parwood is working on a new knight
-A new air tile is being worked on right now that will accomodate the Stormbird/Thunderhawk. Not being completed until the Stormbird was finished (just to be sure the Stormbird doesnt go through the board!!). Stormbird is currently in printing production. Possible first appearance at Weekender
Lotsa lovely new stuff on the way. New ordinatus variant - like that a lot. Considering getting one once that is released. Corax - delicious!! New warlord weapons are fantastic. Lucius pattern head is horrible. Looks like an old style boiler furnace. Lucius pattern - bleughhhhhhhh. Hated the luscious pattern warhound too but that's just me. Mastodon is a beautiful thing - thankfully for my wallet I'm not collecting SM at the mo!!!!! 2016 is looking good (and costly!!)
Corax face looks odd to me.... I like the rest of that model, bit the face is off putting to me.
Atia also stated the next IA is tau vs red scorpions (again????) and legio gryphonnicus.
One of these days I'm going to wake up and all the other badab war characters/chapters (and korvydae) and will have updated FAQ/rules. The following day, the new space marine codex will be released.....
The Night Stalker wrote: Anyone else notice that the old sabre tank hunter model is behind those 2 new red books?
Alongside the Spartan and Vindicator - who would have thought they still have them? I miss the Baneblade though...
I know, I really want to see the rest of what was there that didn't make it into that picture. I'm very curious as to exactly what the "Crusade Imperialis" book will be. Will it be a bid red book with updated lists for Solar Auxilia, Knights, and the Legions? I think that would end up being a "must-buy" if they put all three in there.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I thought the next IA was Adeptus Mechanicus?
Yeah if it really is just Red Scorpions, that's a big zzzzzzz.....
I think Red Scorpions do need a bit of an update, though. Their chapter tactics are a bit lacking. I've always felt a better implementation of their use of Apothecaries would be to basically copy the Legion Apothecary entry, where you buy 1-3 of them as an Elites choice and then plop them into whichever squads you want.
Interesting that the AL are all holding double barrel bolters. Don't they'd assemble a full unit with combi weapons so I wonder if these are a new mark?
kitch102 wrote: Interesting that the AL are all holding double barrel bolters. Don't they'd assemble a full unit with combi weapons so I wonder if these are a new mark?
I love the shoulder pads on those AL guys.
Feels like those weapons are a new combi bolter mark. You don't see a lot of combi weapons with the scope like they have.
angelofvengeance wrote: I love the shoulder pads on those AL guys. Feels like those weapons are a new combi bolter mark. You don't see a lot of combi weapons with the scope like they have.
) and also most of the Imperium's Land Raiders. We don't know what happened to it either, only that it's production capacity was lost to the Imperium, which was why the Emperor gave his 'Land Raider's are only for Astartes' decree.
Typhon/Typhus
