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Post by: Doctadeth
So whats the particle effects from that?
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Post by: SagesStone
Smoke from the smoking blocks in the fire swamp, Twighlight Forest. They're pretty cool, the smoke actually flows properly and spreads is stuff blocks it.
Also I found that enchantment you wanted in book form.
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Post by: Doctadeth
Thanks mate....Will be coming on in a sec
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Post by: darkinnit
To me they look like the swamp flies from Twilight Forest, so I want to hit them with my sword
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Post by: thenoobbomb
darkinnit wrote:To me they look like the swamp flies from Twilight Forest, so I want to hit them with my sword 
Best make sure you aren't in creative, then
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Post by: SagesStone
I might see if I can mess with the particles and give this pack more of a smoke look. If it changes the flies with it, evil clouds. Automatically Appended Next Post: A bit better now.
Just replaced the Sortex pack's particle file with the one from Sphax. Automatically Appended Next Post: Moved a couple of slabs here and there and bam.
That aura sucks so much as well.
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Post by: SagesStone
If no one's using it I'd like to claim the blue/blue/blue Enderchest.
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Post by: Melissia
Minecraft has crashed!
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Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception in world tick
Dunno if you want to check the server logs, Dark. I got this message with a crash.
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Post by: darkinnit
n0t_u wrote:If no one's using it I'd like to claim the blue/blue/blue Enderchest.
Remember if you put a diamond on the lock, the ender chest becomes yours and then if someone else crafts an enderchest with the same colours, it doesn't link to yours.
Also I saw the smoke generators in the Twilight Forest last night. The default texture doesn't look like the swamp flies, so must just be that texture pack you had
I've replaced two major sections of my bee produce processing pipe network with moar Routers with machine upgrades and item ejector upgrades. Starting to understand how they work a lot better now. It's looking a bit neater. Still happy to trade any diamond dust you have for diamonds, as I still haven't made that drill yet and can also use it in making some diamond disc thingies for GregTech machines too.
I also had another go at a Labyrinth and actually got a nice bit of it lit up. Only got set on fire once. Accidentally set off one of the TNT traps though, after being lured into a false sense of security with a few trapless rooms
I've noticed the Twilight Forest doesn't make my laptop's fan go into overdrive like the overworld does. My suspicions lie with either the huge ExtraBiomes forest near me or the huge amount of polygontastic XyCraft quartz crystals underground, which are less prevalent in the Twilight Forest as it has a much lower ground level.
Melissia wrote: Minecraft has crashed!
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Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception in world tick
Dunno if you want to check the server logs, Dark. I got this message with a crash.
I checked, but I don't see anything out of the ordinary, just you disconnecting due to a timeout (no response and server gave up waiting). So it was possibly just a crash on your client.
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Post by: SagesStone
Thing to remember about every chest in a Labyrinth is there's TNT under it. Well except the minoshroom's place. For the double there's a trip wire that will be set off if you break the middle bars. 100% of the time...
So I just come in through the wall.
I've managed to get another Diamond dust and expanded them out from their two hives to about 6 hives so shouldn't take long to get the third either.
Maybe more Trade-O-Mats for lead, aluminium and diamond dust?
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Post by: darkinnit
Hmm, I've only come across double chests so far and the first thing I did with the "untrapped" rooms was break the middle bars and step right in. The trap that I did set off did have the trip wire on the floor immediately after the bars, but I stepped on it, not the bars falling. I had that ohnosecond where I glimpsed it just before I saw it snap.  I was very careful with the room after that, but there was no tripwire...
I had thought of reconfiguring the trade-o-mat at my house to trade the diamonds. Don't really need lead or aluminium right now and I have plenty. I am short on gold, might set up a trade-o-mat for pollen/royal jelly/alveary blocks, I've heard they're in high demand.
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Post by: Melissia
So glad to have my computer working again. Currently working on finishing up the Pulverizer room, which will also have an industrial grinder as its centerpiece once I get a good power source going.
Iustis: I'll be about ready to start up the quarry whenever you get a chance to get on with a good connection. Automatically Appended Next Post: Anyone have a couple Titanium ingots to trade for? It's the last pieces I need for this Quarry.
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Post by: darkinnit
I have/can make Titanium. Got Gold? How does 16 Gold ingots for the two Titanium ingots sound?
Only trouble is we're not often on at the same time.
Hmmm, I might make a new room at spawn where people can place Trade-o-mats and Trade Stations for offline trades.
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Post by: Melissia
Sure. We have gold. And if we don't we can make it.
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Post by: darkinnit
Here's the new Trade Station at spawn.
The iron nugget trade-o-mat is now located there.
I'll see if I can add some of my own as further examples. The coloured wool is so you easily tell people where to look for your trade-o-mat. You can put them against the walls opposite the wool too.
Although a safe is not required, it's better to use one so people can't just take the items out of the chest connected to the trade-o-mat. Automatically Appended Next Post: I've added trade-o-mats for the Titanium and Diamond offers I mentioned earlier. Although I only have two Titanium ingots on offer at the moment, I could get more tomorrow.
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Post by: Melissia
Okay, I claimed those two titaniums. We just need to claim an area to quarry and get to work on a power system for it now.
You still having connection problems, Iustis?
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Post by: SagesStone
Nope should be sorted mostly.
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Post by: Melissia
Woo! Out quarry's up. I think I might add a third and/or fourth Stirling Engine though. Also removed the water cooling to speed up the process. IT won't explode as long as the quarry's running. Automatically Appended Next Post: What's the coordinates for the mining age's portal complex? I need to go and make a book linking to my quarry so I can get charcoal more easily when I run out heh.
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Post by: 4oursword
Any of you thaumcrafty buggers, how does depleted Vis in an area return? Is it a gradual thing, or is that what silverwoods are for?
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Post by: Asherian Command
4oursword wrote:Any of you thaumcrafty buggers, how does depleted Vis in an area return? Is it a gradual thing, or is that what silverwoods are for?
It is a very slow process, unless you have vis infused stone or crystal capacitors
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Post by: 4oursword
Also, whoever boasted that their magical sword could two-shot quantum was lying, because a max-enchants Sword of the Zephyr can't one-shot an iron golem. That means they do less than 100 damage, and a player with quantum can stop that much easily.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
t'was me who was boasting, but not about my sword....
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Post by: 4oursword
Well, whatever it was, I fell Quantum was underestimated there. But hey.
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Post by: Melissia
Quantum can generally withstand more damage than any other armor, but has fewer misc uses, at least tha's the impression I had.
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Post by: Anvildude
And it's possible that the Thaumcraft weapons bypass some of the tech protections of the Quantum...
Also- Vis is returned to an area through the draining of surrounding Vis nodes.
Basically, any time you use Vis, you're draining it from the closest node. If that gets drained and you're still using it, it'll drain from the second closest, and so on. When any Node falls below its maximum Vis level, surrounding Nodes send out little packets of Vis to refill it, draining them- they get packets of Vis from their surrounding nodes, etc. etc. So you drain immediately from your closest node, but over time it brings the average Vis level of all adjacent loaded chunks down. Each Node recharges at a rate of about 1 or 2 Vis every couple of seconds.
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Post by: Melissia
Just like Quantum armor has superior protection against blasts than magical armor, you mean?
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Post by: Xeriapt
Anvildude wrote:And it's possible that the Thaumcraft weapons bypass some of the tech protections of the Quantum...
Also- Vis is returned to an area through the draining of surrounding Vis nodes.
Basically, any time you use Vis, you're draining it from the closest node. If that gets drained and you're still using it, it'll drain from the second closest, and so on. When any Node falls below its maximum Vis level, surrounding Nodes send out little packets of Vis to refill it, draining them- they get packets of Vis from their surrounding nodes, etc. etc. So you drain immediately from your closest node, but over time it brings the average Vis level of all adjacent loaded chunks down. Each Node recharges at a rate of about 1 or 2 Vis every couple of seconds.
The crystal ores in the ground will also recharge nodes. Thats how we end up with dull shards.
Always worth noting for any thaumaturge, dont mine all your shards out near your base.
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Post by: Doctadeth
Looking to purchase 10 iridium plate for my quantum suit
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Post by: Melissia
Anone have a good example of a magmatic engine / magma crucible system?
The idea is that it will produce enough magma to fuel a few geothermals and its own magmatic engines as long as it has a supply of ntherrrack, which should be easy enough to get.
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Post by: darkinnit
Generally a single Magmatic Engine connected to a pump in the nether, using either an endertank or liquid tesseract is seen as easier and rarely needs to be moved, rather than having to constantly gather netherrack. Linking books also make maintenance easy.
As an example, the pump that supplies lava to spawn has yet to require moving since the server started. (Although admittedly I've been trying to keep the machine room at spawn just a basic "getting started" area, and now Grundz is also supplementing it with his own supply too).
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Post by: Xeriapt
Yeah, pump in the nether is just easier.
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Post by: Grundz
Can we finally get those golems in the red-red-red chest, and a beacon so I can get my infinite resource center delivered to the trade center?
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Spawn's out of power. Who's the one who left a machine on? =P
I don't know how the things work, so I don't know how to turn off whatever's draining the power.
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Post by: Grundz
I'll be over shortly to take a look
BTW: my lava generation system is having issues, I need some netherrack donations to red-red-red to keep lava production to spawn
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Post by: darkinnit
Spawn's main source of power is biomass, so it may be a lack of dirt in the tree farm, or that the sand enderchest is full and backlogging the system. I should probably set a restriction tube to destroy any excess sand.
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Post by: SagesStone
Last time I was at spawn it had about 13 blocks of dirt there. I only happened to have a single block on me so tossed it in anyway,
So spawn needs dirt.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Its a lack of dirt that was the cause. I stuck in a few stacks and I think it started itself up again. However it was taking too long to generate any power so I left it. An automated power source would be nice, but I doubt that would be as efficient.
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Post by: Melissia
darkinnit wrote:Generally a single Magmatic Engine connected to a pump in the nether, using either an endertank or liquid tesseract is seen as easier and rarely needs to be moved, rather than having to constantly gather netherrack. Linking books also make maintenance easy. As an example, the pump that supplies lava to spawn has yet to require moving since the server started. (Although admittedly I've been trying to keep the machine room at spawn just a basic "getting started" area, and now Grundz is also supplementing it with his own supply too).
I never even knew endertanks existed. Hey Iustis, I have three thermal engines and a gas turbine engine set up. The turbine engine you can power by putting water cells in to the electrolyzer, then the electrolyzed cells back in. Takes six cells to make four hydrogen cells and two empty cells (well, one is compressed air, but not much you can do with that) IIRC. Thermal engines take lava cells or buckets. The turbine engine is renewable, while the thermal engine provides a bit more power. Problem is, I don't know if you actually produce any excess energy with the electrolyzer/gas turbine effect. Maybe if we had methane cells...
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Post by: Anvildude
Cow shard- beef can be turned into Methane.
And the various Rapture places use compressed air for their scuba systems.
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Post by: Melissia
How?
Keep in mind, I usually say "feth you" to most magic stuff unless it proves superbly useful, so I have no clue how that would work if it's magic.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Melissia wrote:How?
Keep in mind, I usually say "feth you" to most magic stuff unless it proves superbly useful, so I have no clue how that would work if it's magic.
The soul shard mod is vaguely magical I suppose... the jist of it is you kill mobs with a soul shard on your hotbar and the shard slowly fills up with the souls of said mobs, when it reaches a certain threshold you are able to turn it into a spawner for said mob.
After that you can process the beef using an industrial centrifuge from gregtech to produce methane cells.
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Post by: Avatar 720
A lot of trouble to go through for fart-in-a-can.
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Post by: Anvildude
Or you could use a Feeder, and figure out some way of automatically re-filling the feeder and culling the herd while leaving at least two cows there. Or use the Tech version of a mob spawner (which is slower, takes power, and is just generally clunkier). But yeah.
Clay can also be made into gaseous fuel of some sort, I think. So if you can get a bunch of clay bees (River, I think?)
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Post by: Grundz
Methane production is pretty easy to automate if I had some help I can provide it.to everyone for free power with gas turbines
As for lava-> netheracct thing, its actually easier for me than moving around a pump, my lava supply has only dropped 1000 or so buckets since I started supplying spawn as a supplement to darks pumping, however as I start to provide more community resources I need to step up production.
This weekend I should be able to get my recycling center operational, which will let me provide even more. I'm going to try and setup an offshoot of the trading center with information about public supplies and my needs to provide them, ive been spending the last week or so converting most of my production line from pipes to enderchests and timers to reduce lag and allow more integration, soon i'll let people start hooking up to my various supply chests, as long as people don't go nuts with high-input machinery I should be able to provide TONS of free stuff, since my sorting center is massive and sprawling I can take other peoples factory output, like wheat for example, and provide the biofuel with liquid tessaracts, so we dont have to have so many factories and chunk loaders all over the place, I can make it all happen myself..
I /really/ need a ton of those golems and beacons to make it happen though, its the only realistic way of getting 1 stack of a bunch of items in a chest for people to take from, having someone to help with some machinery would be great too, i'll try and take down the sentry guns later today.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
What kind of golems do you want grundz?
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Post by: Anvildude
I'll see if I can get some Advanced Clay and Stone golems for you. Automatically Appended Next Post: Do you want them to have any particular upgraded cores? Perception (longer range) Strength (more carrying capacity) or Speed?
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Post by: Grundz
Pretty sure I just needed stone, the ones I can say "put 1 stack of this item in the beacon chest" for each barrel i assign them to
strength would be best to reduce lag/number of trips
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Post by: darkinnit
For a very cheap "only keep one stack in here" chest, just use a plain vanilla furnace. Just don't put coal in the bottom so you don't cook the items and the most it can hold is 64
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Post by: Melissia
Corpsesarefun wrote: Melissia wrote:How? Keep in mind, I usually say "feth you" to most magic stuff unless it proves superbly useful, so I have no clue how that would work if it's magic. The soul shard mod is vaguely magical I suppose... the jist of it is you kill mobs with a soul shard on your hotbar and the shard slowly fills up with the souls of said mobs, when it reaches a certain threshold you are able to turn it into a spawner for said mob. After that you can process the beef using an industrial centrifuge from gregtech to produce methane cells.
I don't see any recipe for that. I'll keep looking next time I'm on. If I had a the chemical machine (forgot its name) I could just combine carbon and hydrogen for it... that one is a bit more difficult and I'm still not sure about how energy-efficient the process would be. If we had the gold for it (8 blocks), we could make a gold apple and centrifuge that, apparently it doesn't consume the apple...
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Post by: Anvildude
Can't use a Golden Nugget gold apple?
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Post by: Xeriapt
Anvildude wrote:I'll see if I can get some Advanced Clay and Stone golems for you.
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Do you want them to have any particular upgraded cores? Perception (longer range) Strength (more carrying capacity) or Speed?
Advanced golems cant be upgraded with a special core such as strength or intelligence.
If its just one type of item you need moved a clay golem with a stength upgrade would be best I reckon.
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Post by: Melissia
It isn't listed in the recipe. I'll try it out regardless.
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Post by: SagesStone
We should have two in the fridge in the kitchen. And a shard is a diamond cooking in the soul forge. Takes about 11 minutes but we get 3 per diamond.
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Post by: Melissia
I managed to make two ender tanks, hopefully I'll be able to use them to power the thermal generators now. Not sure how I'll do it mind you.
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Post by: Grundz
okay community methane production is almost up and running, centrifuge works
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Post by: Melissia
Grundz wrote:okay community methane production is almost up and running, centrifuge works
A machine at spawn?
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Post by: Grundz
No, I'm working on timers and need 3 more industrial centrifuges to get production to around 1 bucket/minute or so where its actually usable Right now its only 1 bucket / 2 minutes or so
at that point once the storage container fills to about 50% I'll hook up a valve that layer to a liquid tessaract or ender tank for community use, so if you guys overuse I still have my supply.
as these things come online I'll setup a command center off the trade area in spawn so people can hook up or get info on what channel is what.
If someone can direct rotting flesh and applies to ender chest red red pink i can make sure supply doesn't run out
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Post by: Optio
Sry to bother you dark but i have a sad tale to tell (for me anyway  )
I managed to brush up against the portal in the spawn room and after a bit of laggy bouncing around between rooms ended up sufficating in a wall. Ive managed to get most of my stuff back but i cant find my power glove nor my trousers - is there any chance i could please have them reset?
Cheers!
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Post by: Anvildude
Well, I know there's a couple Zombie Grinders, so we should be able to get you all the Rotten Flesh you could ever want. We'll probably have to re-route one of the Brain Golems for that purpose in the Zombie Tower at spawn- and I'll start dropping you from my personal store- I got a couple chests full right now, from level grinding.
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Post by: Melissia
My magma pump isn't working. Not sure why. I'll have to figure it out later. From the comments section in the FtB wiki, however, this appears to be a common problem with buildcraft pumps. Automatically Appended Next Post: Got the pump working, thanks 4oursword.
I just need to make sure that the chunks remain loaded now. What's the best way to do that, Dark?
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Post by: darkinnit
ChickenChunks Chunk Loader's the thing you want. The Railcraft chunk loaders that were popular on the Tekkit server now need a supply of ender pearls to keep running.
It does stop working if you don't log in for 7 days though. That's a setting I've set on the server.
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Post by: Melissia
Okay. I used that one, set on a 5-sized circle.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Um, 5 sized circle?
That means you are loading a lot of chunks... the number is setting the diameter of the loading area
So you're loading around 20 chunks (give or take a few, I'm unsure how many chunks a circle area misses out on)
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Post by: Xeriapt
If you turn lasers on youl see how large the area is it covers. Its an option in the chunk loader ui.
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Post by: Anvildude
So Grundz- Do you want advanced or Strong Clay Golems (they're the ones that take from all available inventories in order to keep 'their' inventory filled with a specific number). Advanced can do up to 6 different kinds of items- Strong can only do one, but can carry up to, what, 32 at a time? Maybe even up to 64?
Or do you want Stone Golems? They'll empty an inventory into a marked inventory, of a specific item.
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Post by: darkinnit
The number of loaded chunks isn't ever really the issue. It's what you have in those chunks that matter. You could load a single chunk that contains a chicken (or sand) singularity and it would bring the server to it's knees, or you could load a 10 chunk radius square of an empty plains biome and the server wouldn't bat an eyelid.
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Post by: Grundz
Anvildude wrote:So Grundz- Do you want advanced or Strong Clay Golems (they're the ones that take from all available inventories in order to keep 'their' inventory filled with a specific number). Advanced can do up to 6 different kinds of items- Strong can only do one, but can carry up to, what, 32 at a time? Maybe even up to 64?
Or do you want Stone Golems? They'll empty an inventory into a marked inventory, of a specific item.
the ones that maintain a set number in a set inventory, since I'm going to be pulling from barrels i'm about 90% sure the normal "not smart" ones are the only choice In testing I couldn't get the smarter ones to pull from one more than barrel (you have to click on the underside of the barrel to get them to take from them)
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Anvildude wrote:Well, I know there's a couple Zombie Grinders, so we should be able to get you all the Rotten Flesh you could ever want. We'll probably have to re-route one of the Brain Golems for that purpose in the Zombie Tower at spawn- and I'll start dropping you from my personal store- I got a couple chests full right now, from level grinding.
unfortunately there isn't one material thats better than others for methane I have 4 centrifuges running off a thermal generator right now humming along, which I think should work for now, its very scaleable so if someone needs more and keeps bottoming out the supply they just need to provide me with a thermal gen and 4 centrifuges and i'll take care of all the piping and such. Ideally zombie brains or beef or apples dropped directly into red-red-pink (the chest that the centrifuges draw from) would be ideal so you dont jam up my other systems with craptons of meat Right now its easting about half a stack every few minutes, its not going to outpace any farm whatsoever
I also finished setting up a massive recycler which seems very productive, its making a fairly constant supply of cells and tin cans that I can smelt into infinite tin (once the current centrifuges are all full of cells at least)
maybe next weekend, i'll setup all the public stuff, I'm a little worried about someone hooking massive machines to my supplies so I'll probably have to design some sort of buffer into it, and make a few of my red-red-ect. chests private if it happens.
as for lag, i'm working on cutting out as much tubing as possible and working everything into independent ender chests, so if one section of the system breaks it'll just stop accepting materials, no more layers of filters that will keep 16 million sand in limbo.
I am willing to trade a ton for a few ghast tears and wither skulls as well
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Post by: Melissia
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Um, 5 sized circle? That means you are loading a lot of chunks... the number is setting the diameter of the loading area So you're loading around 20 chunks (give or take a few, I'm unsure how many chunks a circle area misses out on)
Five chunks. One center chunk and each surrounding one.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
ah, I thought you meant 5 as in that's what you set the diameter to be, my bad
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Post by: Melissia
Whee. My Iron Tank is going to get full overnight. Lots of lava for cells for my thermal generators now.
And I can always expand the tank to boot, if I want. And I probably will.
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Post by: SagesStone
Now I want to build a tank. Shame the driveable carts can't work off of tracks.
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Post by: 4oursword
You can always re-texture the tracks to something more fitting
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Post by: SagesStone
Was not how it looks but the function. I'd rather not be restricted to rails and have a cool drill cart to zoom around in.
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Post by: 4oursword
Ah, I see. Makes sense  Wasn't there a way to stack hundreds of minecarts inside each other and make a car that way?
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Post by: SagesStone
They fixed that a while back sadly. I liked my boosters.
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Post by: 4oursword
It can still be done with MCEdit, but that's not really a workable solution on-server
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Post by: Anvildude
Hmm... You could look into attaching a Track Layer and a Track Puller (or whatever it's called- picks the tracks up from behind you) to have a sort of mini tank, driving around making its own rails.
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Post by: SagesStone
There's an idea. Probably test it out in singleplayer first, see how it turns and such.
Depending on how it goes server could get something like those light cycle matches in Tron.
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Post by: Anvildude
Grundz, maybe it'd help if you let us know exactly what you're going to be using the golems for. Yeh?
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
Darkinnit, earlier this night I was with anvildude showing him my mages tower in the sky age. On the island just before my tower, we fought off some mobs and dodged a creeper explosion. I was lucky as I was very close to tge edge numerous times.
I pressed T and was about to comment on the fact that I was going to make a better bridge when a mob (don't know what it was) had hit me and knocked me off. I was utterly useless to do any thing as I couldn't move being halfway though a sentence.
I know I ask for a inventory reset alot, but this occasion is especially annoying as I know I couldn't do anything against it.
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Post by: darkinnit
The sky age is dangerous. Don't stop to chat when you're standing on the edge.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
I wasn't on the edge, I didn't even know there was a hole
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Actually, I think it was pure lag, that time. I was there, of course. It was actually a spider- I killed it, but about a second later TDA got pushed through the hole. He should've been completely fine- no other mobs around, and like I said, I'd killed the spider like a second before that, while Pimp's feet were firmly on the ground.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
Thanks anvil, I lost slot of valuable stuff then. I don't want to go through another 14 swords of zephyr trying to get repair
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Post by: Melissia
Today was a great and highly productive day! Iustis: When you get a large stack of ores, use the induction smelter down in the pulverizer room. Just put the ores in the pulverizer next tothe smelter, make sure the smelter is full of sand ,and let it pulverize and smelt. You'll get more ingots that way and it's partially automated.
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Post by: Anvildude
Actually, if you put the ores in the Smelter with the sand, you get 2 dusts (or ingots, not sure which) and Rich Slag, which can then be used instead of sand to triple the ingots/dusts from each ore.
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Post by: Melissia
Oh derp, you're right. I was doing it wrong.
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Post by: Asherian Command
darkinnit wrote:The sky age is dangerous. Don't stop to chat when you're standing on the edge.
Standing on the edgeeeeeeeee.
Good song...
Well anyway. whos dumb to do that? I always wear power armor when ever I am adventuring so i don't fall to my death.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
0.o I don't think being attacked by a mob because you were in chat warrants a reset. One, you should be specially aware, and two, you could always awkwardly cut the sentence and deal with the mob. Though falling to death because you were about to you almost fell to death seems more like karma was out to get you.
Oh, and if you're the one who built the green pyramid in the Sky age light up the damn thing. Whoever lives there's got there bed and pretty much the rest of the area in a zero light area. ...Bearing in mind that its the sky age and one creeper could blow you into the abyss.
...I may have a slight torch /not being attacked by random mobs whilst I work fetish.
Edit:
Anyone know what happened to the anvil at spawn? I didn't look for it too much, but someone's moved/removed it from its original location.
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Post by: Grundz
To whoever supplies the white-white-yellow zombie-flesh to spawn, I hooked up your flesh supply to my centrifuges for methane, it currently pulls 1 flesh every 5 seconds which you are easily keeping up with. If I can keep this thing from stalling, or switch it 100% over to zombie flesh I'll make the methane public too
Public free lava is up: tesseract channel 40
Needs: magmatic engines, redstone conduits:
Public free biomass is up, tesseract channel 41
Needs: apetite donation to red-red-red no machines, need to scale up my wheat farm
I dont mind people hooking these things up to their own machinery but if you do so, please donate a few things to ender chest red-red-red so I can keep up with demand, I'll list what I need donated below each if the current supply rate cant keep up with demand, all these farms are set to run off of my own excess materials, if you run them all dry the tanks will still be 50% full.
Overall If someone wants to help with the machinery things are starting to get out of control and could use a helper.
Next i'm working on a warp reactor to keep anvildudes magical donations from corrupting my machinery
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Post by: SagesStone
Dark I just found a material emancipation grid (do not use) in a hollow hill. Already tossed it in lava to get rid of it, but thought I'd still let you know in case you could do anything to stop it from popping up again.
Looking up on it though it doesn't seem like a big deal and it probably would have been fine leaving it in a chest somewhere.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
I managed to fall to death somehow whilst running about in the cave age. I'd been fighting an invisible zombie just beforehand, so I think it was down to desyncing. Either that or I suddenly walked into a gravity field, but I don't think there's any S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mods in the pack. Darkinnit that warrant an inventory reset (I just had a jetpack and steel armour at the time, so not much)?
Oh and I found one of those earlier Not_u. Dark said they're fine, the warning's just because they're badly implemented so probably will kill you if you use them.
And for more fun. I was wearing a set of steel armour after my failed attempt to get my stuff back. After going home to stick it in a chest I removed it. However the armour didn't appear in my inventory after taking it off, nor did it fall on the ground. ...Odd.
Just after doing that the wind also cracked the window next to me too in the real world. Just one of those days.
....
And now the armour's reappeared on my character. ...
...I think it may be best for me to go outside and play in the park right now.
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Post by: Melissia
The wiki is made of lies and hate.
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Post by: 4oursword
No cake?
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Post by: Melissia
Nyet. Also, someone on the Megabuild Age is lagging the feth out of the server. To the point of it being unplayable. Whoever it was (I don't know), SHAME on you.
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Post by: darkinnit
It's cptprice/matapata's place this time. Same problem grundz had (Redpower pneumatic tubes full of infinite items) but this time is sapling/apple apocalypse instead of sand.
I've taken the server offline while I MCEdit the pipes away.
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Post by: Anvildude
Hehehe. Kinda happy magic uses golems and interdimensional chests instead of pipes, now.
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Post by: Melissia
This is a problem that could be solved by simply turning off the machine when you log off.
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Post by: Anvildude
Or even use Dark's 2 Minutes Remaining redstone signal to kill them.
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Post by: darkinnit
This really seems to be happening because of bugs in Redpower, not because these people are actually capable of producing infinite items.
I've edited out the pipes, just testing now, hope to have the server back up soon. Automatically Appended Next Post: Server's back up. Matapata and Cptprice may have experienced a slight rollback to their place.
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Post by: Melissia
Anyone have a skeleton grinder? I am in need of an unreasonably large quantity of bonemeal (at least 10 stacks).
There is science to be done.
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Post by: matapata98
I have one
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The bones from mine are currently just being thrown into lava. You're welcome to them, I can set up an enderchest link to them no problem.
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Post by: Melissia
4oursword wrote:The bones from mine are currently just being thrown into lava. You're welcome to them, I can set up an enderchest link to them no problem.
Ours is blue-blue-blue, but I think our chest is private (maybe? I don't know!) so I dunno if it'll arrive properly. No clue how ender chests work in FtB.
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Post by: SagesStone
It isn't private. I'm considering making a private one as well, yet I also think having an Enderchest for a vault isn't so great really. I mean if I go to the effort of it, what's the point where that enderchest could just be locked and out in the open perfectly safe. That and being isolated a bit on the map means there's no real rush to it. Also Dark, like the test server, is there a table somewhere with reserved Ender and wireless ranges? Keeping it organised keeps it easy.
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Post by: Melissia
Oh, I meant the one under Iustis' place. Anyway, feel free to send the bones to that channel. I need the bones for calcium, to make calcium carbonate for efficient iron production (5 ingots for one nether iron ore, in this case). Is the server down for anyone else? Was trying to log on to check but it's crashed for the last couple hours apparently?
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Post by: SagesStone
I'll check. Was just able to connect then, so it's fine now.
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Post by: darkinnit
Woops! You know what I did, I forgot to re-enable the restarts after the fixes I did yesterday.
Then I just restarted the host server for a software update and obviously it didn't start up the Minecraft server afterwards. Sorry! It's back up now.
I haven't made a table of wireless ranges this time around, because you can name them in-game (just expand the advanced button). You can also "phase shift" any frequency by putting a coloured dye in the interface.
I haven't made a table of ender chest colours, because you can make them private using a diamond. You should do this for any ender chests you don't deliberately want public because you never know who's extracting a given ender chest colour into a void pipe.
As for the intentionally public ender chests, like the free sand, zombie flesh, compressed air, Grundz' donation chest etc, people could probably put up notice signs in the trade center at spawn.
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Post by: Melissia
Anyone have 8 UU matter to trade?
Need that much to make a hybrid solar panel now that I have a regular solar panel, which will do a good job ensuring my energy needs are met. Not sure what I could trade for it though. Thorium perhaps?
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Post by: SagesStone
I just saw how the Gregtech one takes almost 17 times more power to make them now.............................. Oh and could someone help me with my lighthouse design? It uses a 3x3 square of those fire jets, I'm trying to think of how I could set up pumps to keep a 3x3 square of lava source blocks directly under them. The flow does not need to be fast as it should last a while, but each of the spaces do have to be a source rather than flow. My current idea was just weaving different pipe types up the tower so they'd just pump it out automatically in the space I left for the lava, but I haven't had the chance to test it much yet.
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Post by: Melissia
Yeah. And I need two for advanced and then another six for hybrid. So... not going to happen for a while for me, thus I asked to trade instead.
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Post by: SagesStone
We also have some hydra blood and ironwood ingots to offer for it if it helps.
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Post by: Melissia
It might! Also, get on Steam, I'll bug you about the grinder's use. That or if you're on right now, I'll talk to you in game.
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Post by: Xeriapt
n0t_u wrote:I just saw how the Gregtech one takes almost 17 times more power to make them now..............................
Oh and could someone help me with my lighthouse design? It uses a 3x3 square of those fire jets, I'm trying to think of how I could set up pumps to keep a 3x3 square of lava source blocks directly under them. The flow does not need to be fast as it should last a while, but each of the spaces do have to be a source rather than flow. My current idea was just weaving different pipe types up the tower so they'd just pump it out automatically in the space I left for the lava, but I haven't had the chance to test it much yet.
You could try deployers to place buckets of lava then have filters to take the empty buckets.
You could then either set up the system to run off timers and just deploy at certain intervals or just have it manually operated.
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Post by: darkinnit
If a deployer deployed a full bucket, would it keep the empty bucket in it's inventory? Then if it then deployed the empty bucket, would it suck up the lava into the bucket again?
Also vanilla dispensers have this behaviour with lava buckets, but only horizontally I think.
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Post by: Xeriapt
darkinnit wrote:If a deployer deployed a full bucket, would it keep the empty bucket in it's inventory? Then if it then deployed the empty bucket, would it suck up the lava into the bucket again?
Also vanilla dispensers have this behaviour with lava buckets, but only horizontally I think.
Yeah it would suck it back up with an empty bucket, thats why you use filters to take the empty buckets out, then you can pipe in more full buckets.
Only reason Id suggest this over pumps is that I can see the pump overflowing the area.
Although they could be put on a timer also which could work.
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Post by: SagesStone
What if the area was entirely close with just the pipes coming in the bottom of it?
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Post by: Xeriapt
If it was a sealed area then it cant overflow.
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Post by: darkinnit
Why would you need to take the empty buckets out? The lava would either be in the world or in the bucket in the deployer. The bucket full or empty could just stay in the deployer the whole time.
I know a rotating system is wanted, but lava buckets are cheap, just make more
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Post by: Xeriapt
If the buckets stayed in the deployer/dispenser wouldnt it just end up full of empty buckets though?
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Post by: 4oursword
Bones have been diverted to you, Meli. Also 8 UU-matter is in the enderchest.
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Post by: darkinnit
Xeriapt wrote:If the buckets stayed in the deployer/dispenser wouldnt it just end up full of empty buckets though?
No, when the deployer fires again, the lava goes into the bucket.
If you want to get really technical the "empty bucket" item is replaced with the "lava bucket" item. Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm suggesting one bucket per deployer, no piping of anything.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ah I think I'm getting confused. I thought Iustis wanted it to rotate by turning the lava "on" and "off" around the sides of the lighthouse, but actually just wants lava put there that gets used up.
Using a Redpower pump and grate to flood the sealed area with lava is the better way to do it then.
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Post by: SagesStone
So screwing with thaumcraft and got hit by lighting. Supercharged gravity gun.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Uh, Darkinnit, I take it that's a no for that inventory reset? I miss my jetpack. =(
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Post by: Melissia
Dark's been a bit busy as of late, so don't be impatient. Automatically Appended Next Post: darkinnit wrote:
Ah I think I'm getting confused. I thought Iustis wanted it to rotate by turning the lava "on" and "off" around the sides of the lighthouse, but actually just wants lava put there that gets used up.
Using a Redpower pump and grate to flood the sealed area with lava is the better way to do it then.
Correct. the lighthouse has nine blocks that use up lava to create huge gouts of flame, it's quite impressive.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Huh? Oh I just wanted a response. He came on for a minute, tossed a jetpack at me then went back to his real life. Sorry for being a bissim Darkinnit. ^^'
The joke is I've now built some power armour. =/
Does anyone know where the stronghold to the End is? I'm assuming one's been found that is. I'm needing some pearls.
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Post by: Avatar 720
There are two that have been confirmed as discovered, and one more left to find unless someone's keeping it a secret.
Matapata found the first, so you could ask him, and Corpses and me found the second, but I've forgotten where it is.
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Post by: Melissia
I'd like to remind everyone that when someone asks you not to make a joke on a sensitive topic, you should respect their wishes. You can make your jokes on other topics anyway, and if you're a one-joke comedian, get off the stage So anyway, I'm gonna break from minecraft for a bit, I got a metric fethtonne done recently and spent way too much time on it yesterday. Enjoy everything I made for now, Iustis  Be sure to remember to fuel the quarry frequently, and you might have to empty the chests out occasionally.
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Post by: matapata98
Theres a linkbook you can use somewhere, but if it's just pearls you need, theres an ender chest somewhere iirc that we have hooked up
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Post by: Anvildude
Avatar 720 wrote:There are two that have been confirmed as discovered, and one more left to find unless someone's keeping it a secret.
Matapata found the first, so you could ask him, and Corpses and me found the second, but I've forgotten where it is. 
Muahaha.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
I killed myself whilst wearing power armour. When I went back for my stuff a bit later none of it was there, but the exp remained. Is that uh... normal?
The stuff despawning, not me killing myself. =)
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Post by: SagesStone
No it should still drop.
Melissia wrote:So anyway, I'm gonna break from minecraft for a bit, I got a metric fethtonne done recently and spent way too much time on it yesterday. Enjoy everything I made for now, Iustis  Be sure to remember to fuel the quarry frequently, and you might have to empty the chests out occasionally.
Will do and expect golems everywhere when you get back probably. Already have five around.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
I searched the whole area, above and below ground. It didn't just despawn, there was still xp floating there. ...This is why I'm not allowed nice things.
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Post by: Melissia
Use charcoal to fuel the quarry. We need coal for alchemical purposes. Don't worry, plenty of wood to burn at spawn, just toss some dirt and apetite in the machine, not that we use THAT much wood anyway (four stacks a go).
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Post by: Wyrmalla
I'm finding power armour to be a little silly. With all the flight mods and kenetic recharging you gain energy by flying. With the force fields turned up to full I lose one point of energy at the most every few seconds whilst being attacked by five angry zombies and two spiders. I'm sure the flaws will show when going up against ghast kings, and its terrible compared to quantum, but power armour's coming across as being quite ...excessive for the small amount of input required.
But at least it suits for building work/not falling to death.
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Post by: SagesStone
Put on the boot thrusters as well. It's durable but for extended fights its mobility is more powerful.
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Post by: Johnnyboy955
hey dark, I want on the server if you please, in game name is dafayceee. im friends with grundz/metalmessiah. please and thank you!
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Post by: darkinnit
They have done some balancing of the power armor in the upcoming versions. It will take more than an MFE to get a full charge and certain components generate heat when used (mostly weapons). Too much heat causes you to catch fire ;-)
Edit: removed inaccuracies about exploding
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Post by: SagesStone
It's also set to get stuff like a railgun and a ICMB launcher. And ambient cooling, like jumping in water or into a snowy biome of help with heat management.
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Post by: Melissia
So basically everything gets more expensive and we get less and less and less early game stuff.
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Post by: SagesStone
Tis the Gregening.
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Post by: 4oursword
Bored at college, I have no regrets
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Post by: purplefood
I like what you did with R2 and 3PO
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Post by: darkinnit
Are you implying I talk to myself a lot and no-one listens to my advice?
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Post by: SagesStone
Ah cool I have Swiss roll stuck to my head.
For the uneducated heathens in here.
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Post by: Avatar 720
So I'm Han and n0t_U is Leia? It's fate! I'll start making plans for the wedding ceremony!
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Post by: Doctadeth
You mean you have Danish on each ear. And where is TDA as Darth Vader?
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Post by: Melissia
At least I'm not Anakin. I'd have to murder you if you had made me Anakin.
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Post by: 4oursword
TDA didn't have a Profile Pic! And the whole point was that it was Greg of Gregtech.
@Melissa: Your profile picture was closest in size to Luke's face though, so I just popped it there. Hope that didn't cause offence. It does, however, mean that Grundz trained you, as that used to be Ben Kenobi.
And Corpses is Grand Moff Tarkin, because why not?
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
haha! wow 4, didn't know you were in college, they grow up so fast.... ;_;
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Post by: Avatar 720
I thought he'd be in Uni actually. First year, mind.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
I didn't even know he was old enough, I thought he was 16
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Post by: 4oursword
I'm just into Sixth Form, first year of. For anyone unfamiliar with the UK's education system, that's two years before University. 17 as of a month ago, TDA.
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Post by: Melissia
4oursword wrote:TDA didn't have a Profile Pic! And the whole point was that it was Greg of Gregtech.
@Melissa: Your profile picture was closest in size to Luke's face though, so I just popped it there. Hope that didn't cause offence. It does, however, mean that Grundz trained you, as that used to be Ben Kenobi.
That's even more offensive.
I'm completely untrained, and my lack of training is a point of pride. Some of us like being lame.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
One, d'aww the babbies, and two, mind Dakka frowns upon people stating their ages. =P
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
ive gotten a profile image eventually, based off mini-warframe, there sooo cute!
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Post by: Avatar 720
Wyrmalla wrote:One, d'aww the babbies, and two, mind Dakka frowns upon people stating their ages. =P
Only if they're of an age where it could be problematic, I think. I'm not sure how okay it'd be to say 16 or 17, but at 18+ I really don't think there's a problem.
For the record, I'm 20, and I feel old.
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Post by: 4oursword
I reckon it'll be ok. I mean, at 17, what's going to happen? @Meli: Well, I can't please them all... doesn't the fact that you get access to lightsabers fix that?
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Post by: Avatar 720
Look under your bed and you'll see.
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Post by: matapata98
wow, you feel old, now I feel young...
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Post by: 4oursword
Oh, not this again. Would you like a cup of tea first?
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Post by: Anvildude
Dude. Bibliocraft has Printing Presses now!
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Post by: darkinnit
So I spent a good while lighting this place up and making it safe:
Me and my fortune picks are going to have fun....
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Post by: Xeriapt
Whaaat, wheres that at dark?
Cave age or such?
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Post by: darkinnit
Twilight Forest. It's a hollow hill. Full of beasties and spawners, but so much ore.
So much fun to "gain control" of it. Unlike the lazy people who just quarry them Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I think this is just a medium one...
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Post by: Xeriapt
Sounds like I'll have to go on an adventure lol.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
4oursword wrote:
Bored at college, I have no regrets 
4oursword wrote:TDA didn't have a Profile Pic! And the whole point was that it was Greg of Gregtech.
@Melissa: Your profile picture was closest in size to Luke's face though, so I just popped it there. Hope that didn't cause offence. It does, however, mean that Grundz trained you, as that used to be Ben Kenobi.
And Corpses is Grand Moff Tarkin, because why not?
I'm ok with being Tarkin...
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Post by: Wyrmalla
I managed to find a large one of those earlier too. Though I didn't light it up, rather I just zoomed about the place mining ores and using creepers to keep the mobs at bay. There is a silly amount of ore in there for those who can get it though, the working man's quarry. =)
...Those mouse things are annoying though.
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Post by: 4oursword
@Corpsesarefun Glad to hear it!
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
I'm also in the market for iridium, I only need 16 more ore/ingots for my gravi-chestplate.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
Don't look at me corpses I've given you all my iridium
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Help me Dark Apostle, you're my only hope.
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Post by: Doctadeth
I am after ten iridium plates if I can get them. PM me please
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Post by: Wyrmalla
I'm in need of ender pearls right now. Seeing as people are also wanting Iridium I think I might make an extended trip to the End. Seeing as no-one can remember where the portals are though, does anyone want to go looking for the Strongholds when I'm next on (either the ones already discovered, or the one missing one)?
...Because youknow... adventuring and stuff. *There's only a 5% chance that I'll kill you and knick your stuff when we get there I mean. =)
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
That's an awful lot of Iridium ore...
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Post by: Doctadeth
Well, If I go to the twilight forest I lag out.
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Post by: darkinnit
I'm pretty sure iridium doesn't spawn any more likely in Twilight Forest than in any other dimension...
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
darkinnit wrote:I'm pretty sure iridium doesn't spawn any more likely in Twilight Forest than in any other dimension...
Or the end for that matter...
Bauxite spawns much more in the twilight forest though.
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Post by: Doctadeth
Ack, thats irritating.
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Post by: Avatar 720
Corpses, it's been ages since I've been on but have you managed to figure out what was wrong with the Matter Fab.? Or is it still lying in a chest somewhere?
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Avatar 720 wrote:Corpses, it's been ages since I've been on but have you managed to figure out what was wrong with the Matter Fab.? Or is it still lying in a chest somewhere?
It's running, just very slowly...
I got around 10 UU in the 3-4 hours I was out and it burnt through like 30 dual uranium cells in the process, there has to be a better way.
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Post by: Avatar 720
I still don't understand the sudden change in it. One minute it was working fine, the next it was leeching power from our mega-reactor and our breeders, and all three reactors combined couldn't pump out enough to keep it running, never mind anything else.
Bloody Gregtech.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Only 260eu/t is going into it at the moment, I can't work out how to boost that.
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Post by: 4oursword
Mine just has three HV-Transformers with a redstone signal on to transform them into extreme voltage, linked to three MFSU's, linked in turn to 2 Ultimate Hybrid Solars each. It's a ridiculous expenditure for UU.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
It spawns in Sheldonite ore which has a higher chance of producing the dust than any other ore. The Twilight Forest's biomes that spawn the ore appear more consistantly than those in the overworld apparently, and presumably due to the ease of finding hollow hill/gorges and the height of the world that makes iridium easier to find.
Blah. =P
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Post by: darkinnit
I thought Sheldonite only spawned in the end. I know iridium does not spawn in the hollow hill stalagmite formations (no cheap iridium there!). I also thought iridium spawned at any y height.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Iridium spawns outside of the End, Sheldonite in it. I didn't realise that Iridium spawned at any height though, but pity that it doesn't spawn in the ore fests that are hollow hills. =/
The End seems largely un-industrialised oddly. There's a few portals, but tons of ores all over. Oddly that includes sheldonite in the asteroids right by the main island.
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Post by: Melissia
It spawned just below the surface for my quarry.
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Post by: Anvildude
I remember I got an irridium once while mining out my Zombie grinder... Gave it to Img.
Also- for the Matter Fabs- are you sure there aren't any other machines drawing power? How are you tranferring the power? Have you set the output on your various storage units high enough? (I think there's a way to change the EU/tic output for those things).
Also, you can convert Buildcraft Joules to EU in various ways- I think Steam Turbines are actually one of the best ways to get energy.
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Post by: matapata98
server crash? nevermind is it being strange or something?
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Post by: Wyrmalla
The Mojang server's died about an hour ago. The dakka one's acting up too. =/
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Post by: darkinnit
When Mojang's servers aren't authenticating people, it usually means you can't get on multiplayer.
Seems to be better now.
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Post by: Melissia
Whoops. Got stuck in a hedge maze in the twlight forest and my last sword broke. Will have to get help to get out tomorrow if anyone's on when I am...
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Post by: SagesStone
I'll gravity gun you out of it or just break all the spawners later.
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Post by: Doctadeth
Number one way of getting MJ into IC2 EU. Petroleum converter.
I've refined ALL of my ores that I can, and still not emptied my first oil well.
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Post by: darkinnit
Doctadeth wrote:Number one way of getting MJ into IC2 EU. Petroleum converter.
I've refined ALL of my ores that I can, and still not emptied my first oil well.
Oil wells do seem to last a lot longer than I thought they would. My first oil well lasted me over two months, running dry just yesterday. (Of course it does depend on how much demand you put on it, but I did have all those advanced bee machines that draw silly amounts of power when in use).
Now I have bees producing my oil. :-)
I also made this to monitor them
The boxes show which alvearies are online and the bottom bar shows my oil level in my Xycraft tank.
Currently debugging why one of those boxes is incorrectly reporting an alveary offline.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
wow, dark your good at computer craft! that's really cool!
double post
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Post by: SagesStone
:O that's very nice.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Just found a creeper spawner in a hollow hill. Was someone looking to make a creeper shard? This thing spawns out five creepers every couple of seconds...
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Post by: Anvildude
Make one. If nothing else, it'll be a good source of gunpowder.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Iustis has one, ILordNoob's making one. I'm justing saying I've found a spawner that pumps them out pretty in case someone wants to increase their shard.
Though it is inside a hollow hill that's full of mobs, invisible tnt and the aforementioned creepers. =P
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Sounds like a fun place.
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I bet it's da bomb.
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Post by: Locclo
I tried installing this modpack, but after I play for around 10 minutes or so, my FPS drops to almost nothing, and I have to ctrl+alt+del my way out of the game. It's only when using Feed the Beast. Anyone know why it might be happening? Minecraft runs perfectly smoothly when I run without the pack.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Is it possible to know what enchantment you're receiving when enchanting a book? I've got a chest full of books after spending a good while trying to get Fortune. =/
Locclo, Ftb takes up a lot more resources than vanilla minecraft, so even if you can run the base game fine, you might not be able to run Ftb smoothly. You also might recieve lag due to communication errors or just regular server lag due to the modpack not being as well optimised as vanilla.
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Post by: matapata98
try allocating more ram
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Post by: Melissia
I had to increase my RAM to 8gb to play ftb without too many problems, myself.
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tbh though its mostly cpu power that you need
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Post by: Melissia
My 2.67/2.67 ghz dual core is more than enough, and it's fairly mediocre and old (7+ years).
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Are we allowed to use chunk loaders? I'm considering using one to keep my pipe system running when in another age.
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Post by: Melissia
As long as whta you have loaded doesn't slow down the server.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
An Ender chest, some pipes and a few chests? Its so I can drop stuff off in an ender pouch indefinitely (or at least until the chests fill up).
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Post by: Melissia
Just don't do anything Grundz or CaptainPrice would do and you'll probably be fine.
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Post by: Anvildude
For the Memory stuff- there's a known issue with Mystcraft- if you use the portals too many times (or books, or whatever) you'll start to get memory leakage and horrible framerate droppage.
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Post by: darkinnit
That's not really an issue with Mystcraft as it is with other mods in the pack "holding onto" chunks in dimensions you've left. So it appears as a symptom from Mystcraft use, but it's not the cause.
Basically, you leave a dimension and Minecraft tries to unload the chunks from memory, but one of the mods says "hang on, I'm still using that" (sometimes even if it's not). So it sits there using memory. Not necessarily bad at first, except that if you go back into that world again, it loads those same chunks into another part of memory, using up more. Rinse and repeat and eventually, blargh.
It affects all dimensions (nether, end, twilight forest) not just Mystcraft ones. Automatically Appended Next Post: This is apparently the main reason Rei's minimap is not in Ultimate, as from what I've heard it was especially bad at holding stuff in memory when dimension hopping.
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Post by: Anvildude
Hey, the person who's place is around 300 800 in the Overworld (the tower complex made completely out of Warded Materials)- you're drawing an aweful lot of Vis from the surrounding nodes- I notice the couple of Pure Silverwood nodes you have inside- those're doing a good job of keeping the Flux down, so good on you there- but what in the world is drawing so much Vis with you AFK and the chunks not loaded? I traced the energy flow all the way from Darkinnit's village!
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Post by: Melissia
darkinnit wrote:That's not really an issue with Mystcraft as it is with other mods in the pack "holding onto" chunks in dimensions you've left. So it appears as a symptom from Mystcraft use, but it's not the cause.
Basically, you leave a dimension and Minecraft tries to unload the chunks from memory, but one of the mods says "hang on, I'm still using that" (sometimes even if it's not). So it sits there using memory. Not necessarily bad at first, except that if you go back into that world again, it loads those same chunks into another part of memory, using up more. Rinse and repeat and eventually, blargh.
It affects all dimensions (nether, end, twilight forest) not just Mystcraft ones.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
This is apparently the main reason Rei's minimap is not in Ultimate, as from what I've heard it was especially bad at holding stuff in memory when dimension hopping.
GregTech is one of those mods I should note.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
GregTech is one of those mods I should note.
Mostly irrelevant, even if we removed Gregtech there would be other mods with the same issue.
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Post by: Melissia
Corpsesarefun wrote: Mostly irrelevant, even if we removed Gregtech there would be other mods with the same issue.
I never advocated removing gregtech. Rather, I advocate gregtech's modmakers to be more competent.
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Post by: Xeriapt
Anvildude wrote:Hey, the person who's place is around 300 800 in the Overworld (the tower complex made completely out of Warded Materials)- you're drawing an aweful lot of Vis from the surrounding nodes- I notice the couple of Pure Silverwood nodes you have inside- those're doing a good job of keeping the Flux down, so good on you there- but what in the world is drawing so much Vis with you AFK and the chunks not loaded? I traced the energy flow all the way from Darkinnit's village!
Yeah thats my tower.
It could be some sort of delayed effect from using an arcane bore near to my tower, it drained somewhat more vis than I expected and depleted several large nearby nodes.
Im not using the bore near my tower anymore though Ill just use it in the mining age if I do.
Im planning on building up some larger pure nodes at my base to help replenish the vis in the area Ill just have to go find some more silverwood saplings.
Other than that all I use vis for is making some warded blocks and repair enchants.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Xeriapt wrote:Anvildude wrote:Hey, the person who's place is around 300 800 in the Overworld (the tower complex made completely out of Warded Materials)- you're drawing an aweful lot of Vis from the surrounding nodes- I notice the couple of Pure Silverwood nodes you have inside- those're doing a good job of keeping the Flux down, so good on you there- but what in the world is drawing so much Vis with you AFK and the chunks not loaded? I traced the energy flow all the way from Darkinnit's village!
Yeah thats my tower.
It could be some sort of delayed effect from using an arcane bore near to my tower, it drained somewhat more vis than I expected and depleted several large nearby nodes.
Im not using the bore near my tower anymore though Ill just use it in the mining age if I do.
Im planning on building up some larger pure nodes at my base to help replenish the vis in the area Ill just have to go find some more silverwood saplings.
Other than that all I use vis for is making some warded blocks and repair enchants.
I thought it would be an arcane bore...
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Post by: Melissia
Also, I still need that other 4 uu matter from a certain person
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Melissia wrote:Also, I still need that other 4 uu matter from a certain person 
Yes ma'am...
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Post by: Xeriapt
It has been over a week since I used the bore though.
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Post by: Melissia
What's the best way to transfer EU across dimensions?
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Post by: Anvildude
Musta been my travel through the chunks, then, loading them up. I mean dang, though. Even your Dark Node was down to the tens, out of, what, 400 or so?
This, people, is why we don't use Arcane Bores in the Overworld. Best bet, actually, is to use Crystal Capacitors with the things- Capacitor use, I think, doesn't create the Flux that direct Node use does. Might be wrong about that, though- I'll have to test it sometime...
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Post by: Xeriapt
Yeah I have capacitors but they arent fully charging atm, I think the nodes need to be larger.
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Post by: 4oursword
Best way to transfer EU across dimensions is converting it to Buildcraft Power and feed it into an Energy Tesseract. Then, on the other end, turn it back into EU. Or rather, that's the only way I know of.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Storing it in energy crystals and sending it via an item tesseract works too...
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Post by: Melissia
4oursword wrote:Best way to transfer EU across dimensions is converting it to Buildcraft Power and feed it into an Energy Tesseract. Then, on the other end, turn it back into EU.
Or rather, that's the only way I know of. Ew, no.
That's a 25% loss in energy, very bad idea.
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Post by: darkinnit
For late game, there's the IDSU, but before that, Energy Crystals in an EnderChest or Item Tesseract is probably the way to go. Automatically Appended Next Post: or if you want to do it with style, make a horizontal Mystcraft portal and drop MFSU-carts through it.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Would anyone with knowledge of computercraft be interested in making an elevator system for rapture? I need a compact way to direct the frame based lift to 8 floors.
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Post by: darkinnit
Sounds like a fun little side project. It just needs to pulse a redstone signal a certain number of times to move the frame to the correct floor, right?
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
It needs to be able to detect which floor the lift is currently on and pulse the correct number of times (to the correct motor) to move it to the floor from which the lift is called and then repeat the process to move to the destination floor.
I'm thinking of having one of those touchscreen displays on each floor to call the lift and a frame motor inchworm to move it.
Ok inchworms don't work in two directions, back to the drawing board.
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Post by: Xeriapt
Seems I cant use an Arcane bore in the mining age, as soon as I turn it on the lag becomes unbearable and the machine doesnt work.
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Post by: darkinnit
Arcane Bores are known to be extremely buggy (and lag generators). But hey, that's pretty much Thaumcraft all over.
In other news, I may have found out how to restore aura nodes that go AWOL (without having to reset all aura in the entire world). Need to test it though.
As for the lift, it should be simple to save the last floor it arrived at and then calculate stuff from there. I think I'd do a rednet wireless system again for communication between the touchscreens and the lift controller. Touchscreens, variable saving, redstone pulsing, multiple input sources, wireless, oh my!
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Post by: Xeriapt
Lol dont get too excited there.
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Post by: Anvildude
Capacitors only store Vis that is created above the normal amount, I think- you'll need or want a bunch of Crystal Clusters around the node.
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Post by: Xeriapt
I already have a heap of clusters but it doesnt seem to make much difference.
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Post by: Melissia
Because I'm awesome-- that didn't stop being a thing which is true-- I finished the upgraded blast furnace and a few other things. So finally I can make use of all that aluminum dust. And that means I can begin work on other, unmentioned things which are also awesome.
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Post by: Asherian Command
Melissia wrote:My 2.67/2.67 ghz dual core is more than enough, and it's fairly mediocre and old (7+ years).
..........
That. Is terrible.
The computer I am working with in computer repair. is a 3.04 ghz. That is terrible...... But then I saw that.And i am sorry. You need a new computer my friend.
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Post by: Melissia
Asherian Command wrote: Melissia wrote:My 2.67/2.67 ghz dual core is more than enough, and it's fairly mediocre and old (7+ years).
..........
That. Is terrible.
The computer I am working with in computer repair. is a 3.04 ghz. That is terrible...... But then I saw that.And i am sorry. You need a new computer my friend.
And yet, this 2.67 dual core is capable of handling almost any game on the market-- and usually on pretty high settings. Don't delude yourself in to thinking you need a supercomputer to play PC games. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, the server just crashed and afterwards it's been kind of laggy. Automatically Appended Next Post: Yep, down again.
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Post by: Avatar 720
Whilst your CPU (is it an Intel Xeon Processor 3070, by any chance?) is capable of handling things right now, in terms of raw processing power, compared to today's standards it is woefully lacking. I believe you and Asherian are on about different aspects of the CPU, with you being right about its ability to handle games (not that a lot of games are very processor intensive) and Asherian being right that, as far as current CPUs go, it's crap.
Everyone is right. Let's leave it at that.
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Post by: Melissia
It's an Intel Core 2 Duo.
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Post by: Avatar 720
Ah; an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700? Given the age of it and the clock speed, that's the one that fits, and any differences between it an the Xeon are practically nonexistent.
Pardon the curiosity - I have little to do at 5:35am.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Got a basic lift mechanism working.
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Post by: darkinnit
Cool, I have the beginnings of a basic controller. Will be on shortly.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
With the system I have there is one wireless receiver for up and one for down so if your system can output a redstone signal for each when necessary then we should be golden.
It'll also need to pulse for each floor.
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Post by: Melissia
Heh, now I need to make room for yet another Gregtech item-- the Industrial Sawmill! I'll be expanding the grinder room to make use of it, as it requires liquid to work. Unfortunately none of the Wiki pages actually explain how to make it, but I think I get the gist of it, in terms of machine casing placement. The industrial sawmill is a more efficient means of getting planks out of logs-- six logs per plank, plus sawdust which can be turned in to charcoal (at eight per dust) or various wooden items through compressing it in to wooden plates. And I have an extra diamond saw, which will be used by a crop harvester to help Iustis' harvesting process since the golems keep messing it up. Just need to make some batboxes and some more cables. Thankfully I found a recipe to make more cables while using less diamond dust, so yay there. edit: Crop harvester apparently sucks heh. Harvests a single IC2 crop apparently. How lame. Guess that diamond saw is going unused unless we want another three sawmills.
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Post by: Anvildude
See, a sawmill is one of the things that'd be amazing with a multiblock like the Tinker's Constructs foundry. Can you imagine the logs being plonked down in a water run and being split out by a moving saw?
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Post by: Melissia
Anvildude wrote:See, a sawmill is one of the things that'd be amazing with a multiblock like the Tinker's Constructs foundry. Can you imagine the logs being plonked down in a water run and being split out by a moving saw?
Would be neat. Certainly neater than a single block atop of nine machine casings with water and a cable plugged in to it.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
You do resale the thermal expansion sawmill is cheaper and does the same thing, right?
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Post by: 4oursword
Does the Factorization Grinder need Factorization power? I need more Gravel, and I can get it from cobblestone with the Grinder. Has anyone actually made a Craftpacket Stamper, too?
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Post by: darkinnit
4oursword wrote:Does the Factorization Grinder need Factorization power? I need more Gravel, and I can get it from cobblestone with the Grinder. Has anyone actually made a Craftpacket Stamper, too?
Yes and yes. (The stamper is the easy part, the diamond shards craftpacket is the expensive part).
The grinder needs a lot of power though, so you'd need to make a lot of mirrors (lots of silver), and maybe a few factorisation batteries too, as there's currently no way to get Factorisation power at night. (A future update will bring steam power).
However, can't you also get gravel from cobble in a Thermal Expansion pulveriser, or does that make sand?
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Post by: Xeriapt
I believe it does make sand with gravel as the bi-product.
So not the best for mass gravel making Id imagine.
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Post by: Melissia
Matt.Kingsley wrote:You do resale the thermal expansion sawmill is cheaper and does the same thing, right?
Yes.
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Post by: Avatar 720
Matt.Kingsley wrote:You do resale the thermal expansion sawmill is cheaper and does the same thing, right?
Are you posting from a phone? It's the only way I can see 'realise' turning into 'resale'.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Yep.. stupid auto correct...
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Post by: Avatar 720
I aggregate, auto contact is refrigerator.
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Post by: Melissia
Why. God, why. (that was just one side; I was surrounded)
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Post by: Anvildude
...You got slimed...
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Post by: SagesStone
Oh and at about 7159y I released Zippy the first penguin astronaut. I've no idea if, exactly where or when he'll land. But it's science and he's exploring new heights as it were.
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Post by: SagesStone
He's ascended! He's now the second Dakkacraft god.
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Post by: Xeriapt
Well with rogue ascended about I must say my warded blocks give me peace of mind.
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Post by: SagesStone
Not rogue, part of the current Avian pantheon of Dakkacraft gods. Zippy of the stars and Clucky of the earth.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Zippy stardust ?
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Post by: SagesStone
Nope, just seemed like a good name when I was putting down the memorial sign.
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Post by: IHateNids
Not_U, I have to ask where you found an atomic penguin...
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Post by: SagesStone
That's not an atomic explosion, that's red matter kicking the fabric of reality in the teeth and stealing its wallet.
Anyway I found some penguins in the twilight forest and tried to move them to the overworld. Now mystcraft book travel combined with ion thrusters and manipulating gravity doesn't quite agree with penguins too well, so I tracked down some transformation powder and made some penguins out of chickens using science the uninformed would call a form of hedonistic magic.
Then it was simply a matter of sciencing the rest of it until it sorted itself out. Many penguins vanished of course; nothing the science of jamming wheat down their throats couldn't counteract. With enough science the square peg will not only fit through the round hole, it'll burn that block of wood to the ground and hunt down its loved ones for getting in its way.
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Post by: Melissia
Science-- the Cave Johnson Way.
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Post by: Oshunai
I've run into a situation with my lava pump station and was wondering if anyone could help explain it.
Logged on to find my lava supply not working. I assumed it had run out, so link booked to my lava pump station, in the nether, coords +1272, +2854. Here I found the cobble hut which houses the pump damaged, the pump turned off, and the waterproof piping removed. The ender tank, which connects to said pump system uses the colour combination yellow, red, blue. A combination I've been using since the start of the game. My conclusion here is that someone started using an ender tank of the same combination, found it filling with lava and as a result, turned my pump off in order to use that colour combination.
I checked with Dark and he did not turn the pump off due to lag/any other reason.
Alternatively someone just felt like visiting the pump station and a ghast hit it or something?
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Post by: SagesStone
What kind of engines do they use? Sure it couldn't have been that going boom perhaps?
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Post by: Oshunai
n0t_u wrote:What kind of engines do they use? Sure it couldn't have been that going boom perhaps?
The pump uses four redstone engines to power it. There's no way they could have exploded.
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Post by: SagesStone
Hmm, then I'd have to agree someone's probably taken refuge from ghasts in there and the explosion from that damaged it. But, suspicious not to mention it.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
They may not have a dakka account, a few people on the server don't.
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Post by: 4oursword
Oshunai wrote:I've run into a situation with my lava pump station and was wondering if anyone could help explain it. Logged on to find my lava supply not working. I assumed it had run out, so link booked to my lava pump station, in the nether, coords +1272, +2854. Here I found the cobble hut which houses the pump damaged, the pump turned off, and the waterproof piping removed. The ender tank, which connects to said pump system uses the colour combination yellow, red, blue. A combination I've been using since the start of the game. My conclusion here is that someone started using an ender tank of the same combination, found it filling with lava and as a result, turned my pump off in order to use that colour combination. I checked with Dark and he did not turn the pump off due to lag/any other reason. Alternatively someone just felt like visiting the pump station and a ghast hit it or something? For the future, I'll give you diamonds to make the tank network private. I personally don't like having public tanks...
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Well feth. Managed to lose my quantum legs and boots (plus some assorted other stuff) in this huge unlit tunnel that goes through one of my quarries in the mining age, sigh.
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Post by: Anvildude
Actually, I think that Redstone Engines can explode when being used to power machinery- it was an update. May or may not be the update Ultimate is running on. But it was meant to make people have to use higher tier engines to power their higher tier machinery- not Gregtech, just the mod author wanting to add a little required progression to the system.
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Post by: Melissia
Anvildude wrote:Actually, I think that Redstone Engines can explode when being used to power machinery- it was an update. May or may not be the update Ultimate is running on. But it was meant to make people have to use higher tier engines to power their higher tier machinery- not Gregtech, just the mod author wanting to add a little required progression to the system.
Redstone engines will only explode in two situations. 1: The RS engine is powered but not hooked up to anything. 2: A second RS engine is directly powering the first RS engine. In no other situations do they explode. In both situations, they will last a long time in red before they explode, and an attentive person will notice it long before-- normally, the RS engine toggles between red and yellow phases, because it passes its energy faster than it can produce it, but when it's stuck in red, it's very obvious, and needs to be rectified immediately.
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Post by: Avatar 720
I've had redstone engines instantly blow up in my face when I accidentally connected them to a geothermal generator's output, but I can't remember if that was tekkit or FTB.
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Post by: Melissia
Yes, if they have too much power stored, they'll blow up. That is the number two situation I mentioned. They will not naturally store too much power if they have no other engine inputting in to them-- they output faster than they input.
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Post by: Melissia
To reiterate what I said to Oshunai (since it was probably lost in the dicussion):
I wasn't trying to tell you to do anything or whatever. But you really shouldn't be strip mining in an area dedicated to quarries. Even if it was under my quarry before I put it there (which I can't confirm or deny), it's still kind of crappy. The quarry I have is a few hundred blocks away from your sign (and existed before you started your own quarry there), there was no reason to expect there to be any mined blocks under it when it in an area that, according to the signs in the Mining Age nexus, was meant for quarries.
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Post by: Oshunai
Melissia wrote:To reiterate what I said to Oshunai (since it was probably lost in the dicussion):
I wasn't trying to tell you to do anything or whatever. But you really shouldn't be strip mining in an area dedicated to quarries. Even if it was under my quarry before I put it there (which I can't confirm or deny), it's still kind of crappy. The quarry I have is a few hundred blocks away from your sign (and existed before you started your own quarry there), there was no reason to expect there to be any mined blocks under it when it in an area that, according to the signs in the Mining Age nexus, was meant for quarries.
I realise my mistake now, though when I originally dug tunnels and used my arcane bore manually the area was unoccupied in every direction. If you feel that you lost valuable resources by my old tunnels then I am happy to give you any resources that would perhaps compensate you for your loss.
If you have a concern like this again (or a problem with anything I do on the FTB server) please do not use swear words when talking to me as it comes across as extremely aggressive.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
Well, at least you put it kindly, honestly at first I thought you were joking when you said you wanted to kill him, among other stuff....
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Post by: Melissia
To be fair, my poor mood had nothing to do with you, and I apologized for it in chat. I don't request you give me anything, Osh. I'm just explaining myself. The Dark Apostle wrote:Well, at least you put it kindly, honestly at first I thought you were joking when you said you wanted to kill him, among other stuff....
I never said I wanted to kill Oshunai. Or... anyone, really. I don't like PvP on minecraft.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
No you treathened to actually kill him, not in MC
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Post by: Melissia
I didn't do that, either. Automatically Appended Next Post: Has anyone claimed the redrock mountain at X=1750, Z=750, and attached wasteland?
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Post by: 4oursword
Looks like it, the village has been expanded and there's a marble house on the wasteland. But if you do live there, you're pretty much next door to my thaumcraft desert base.
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Someone owns that village Melissia, presumably whoever owns the house to the north of it. When I was there it was lit up and had a stone wall built around it. =P
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Post by: Melissia
Okay. Hm. I guess I'll claim the area around the redrock and wasteland combo at -2330 1000 then.
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
The inchworm drive for The "Banhammer" is almost ready! Soon I'll get to work on the body skeleton and even the rear engines! Can't wait for this to work!
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Post by: Melissia
I am in need of an unreasonably large amount of mercury/quicksilver/cinnabar ore.
At least three stacks, preferably more.
Anyone have some for trade?
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Post by: The Dark Apostle
What would you need with that much quicksilver???
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Post by: Anvildude
Using it as a grinding medium. I asked earlier. Already gave her my 55 Cinnabar Ore.
Update on the tower- I am in need of Spruce Wood now, as well as quite a few more Arcane Alembics. I am starting on the Library.
(still need to figure out the transportation system- it might work to simply have a single shaft going up and down, and you just step off at the right level...
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Post by: Grundz
White-White-White is now setup!
i'll be adding more, different resources over time, don't abuse the abusable resources like redstone or hook them up to machines and such or i'll take them out
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Post by: Melissia
I need to convert 3 stacks of silver ore in to 9 stacks of silver dust.
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Post by: darkinnit
FTB Ultimate has been updated to 1.1.1 - however the server has not, yet.
I'll do some tests and see how soon I can update it. Please be patient. Automatically Appended Next Post: Not 100% accurate Changelog (but close enough):
http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/detailed-changes-for-ultimate-v1-1-0.19025/
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