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mmmm Hot Grox buns!
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Post by: GiraffeX
Flamers are ok vs armies with low toughness like guard and eldar really depends if your opponents use these type of armies. If you play tournaments then id say no stick with plasma and melta. You would still have your sentenals with flamers.
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Against marines, flamers and lasguns are as effective as tapioca pudding.
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Lol thanks guys! :-) tapioca pudding you say! hmmm interesting launcher conversion right here! but yes, I would say my opponents are going to be mainly BA marines and possibly Eldar and Nids occasionally, my best mate is the BA player and pretty much is the only guy i've had a game with, so chances are high it'll mainly be him lol!
Tournaments.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *snort* I don't even know the rules yet! :-) Automatically Appended Next Post: Whoops, I meant to ask GiraffeX about flamers on sentinels? I don't really know what to have them armed with or built as? any hints my nerdy brothers from different mothers?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I disagree, flamers can be quite effective vs. marines when they're packed in together due to volume of hits. I wouldn't rely too heavily on them, but a couple salted around an army can be very effective.
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Do you think 3 sentinels w/flamers would or could be useful against BA? they have small squads and I know Ad has them fairly close packed! other than the flamers i like the idea of las-cannons and I know nothing about autocannons and what they're good for (weird considering i built a dreadnought with 2 twin linked!)
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I prefer flamers I mixed squads where their coverage can be a real asset in a close fight. I wouldn't however, recommend it as the primary armament on a vehicle. It's just too little of a margin of error. Las cannons are nice. Auto cannons aren't all that useful vs. MEQ.
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Post by: guinness707
I've had success with flamer equipped scout sentinals outflanking since they are nice and cheap for what they do. Armored sentinels with las arent a bad option either but those I would just leave in the backfield in some cover or something, and if your going to do that there's other more effective uses for fast attack points I reckon.
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But Gits, sneaking up behind Marines and pouring a bowl of tapioca pudding down their Tighty Ceramite Whiteys is more FUN
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dsteingass wrote:But Gits, sneaking up behind Marines and pouring a bowl of tapioca pudding down their Tighty Ceramite Whiteys is more FUN
Gak, Gak, Gak! what am I going to do now! it's a toss up between Tapioca launchers or Flamers!!!  we need a poll!!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i´m in for the tapioca...
although... if you have flamers... creme brule` is also an option...
get the marines to sit down... have them feast upon the creme ... and then slay them all while they try to digest...end of marine situation....
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Post by: GiraffeX
I think of it this way, why would you want to get a guard squad close enough to be in flamer range, its just asking for it.
With marines in say a tactical squad its not so bad as they have armour and a better all round ability to receive a charge.
In regards to the Sentinels I dont think you will be using them as they take up a fast attack choice which is where you Valks and Vendettas sit. Saying that (as I know you have the models) I'd do as some one suggested and magnetise the weapons, Heavy Flamer, Autocannon and Lascannon's are the best choices.
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Thanks GFX! I probably will just use lascannons on them if i do actually use them, as I want to run them next to my troops when i move so they can dart in front and become a bigger target or shield them from the side by being in the way? and really lascannon is the only thing that's powerful enough to cause any kind of damage to marines or tanks! :-) I just like the look and idea of flamers! you know, rule of cool!
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Getting ready for my first game in forever, next friday is go time!  we decided on 1,500 points per side, since it's just for fun and trying to learn the rules my list is more about getting a chance to use models I've painted but have never seen action  so this is what i'll be using in a game of annhilation against Eldar:
HQ: Librarian Tomas. Termie armour & power weapon 125
Troops: Tac squad with Missile Launcher & sarge with power fist 195
Tac squad with Missile Launcher & sarge with power fist 195
10 man Assault squad, sarge with power axe & combat shield 210
Elite: Terminator Assault squad (deepstriking) 200
Fast Attack: Land Speeder squad, one Typhoon, one Tornado, one normal 230
Baal Predator, flamer sponsons 140
Heavy Support: 5 man Dev squad with 4x Plasma
Transport: 2x Drop pods 70
in total it comes in at 1,515 points which is fine with us as Daves Eldar ran slightly over too  I think i've enough to confuse and squash his guys hopefully
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Post by: GiraffeX
You Flesh EATERS list looks good but one thing your missing is the special weapon from each of your tactical squads, if your running power fists with the sergeants a Meltagun to go in that squad when you combat squad them will make them a nice anti vehicle squad.
Oh and lots of pics of your boys in action is a must
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Post by: Samisking
Amazing. I like how you have got some battle damage wear and tear. I have been thinking about this with my project... not sure if a shiny new army with well kept armour is maybe less impressive than this rusted from war approach. Definitely something for me to think about!
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Post by: Pyriel-
HQ: Librarian Tomas. Termie armour & power weapon 125
Troops: Tac squad with Missile Launcher & sarge with power fist 195
Tac squad with Missile Launcher & sarge with power fist 195
10 man Assault squad, sarge with power axe & combat shield 210
Elite: Terminator Assault squad (deepstriking) 200
Fast Attack: Land Speeder squad, one Typhoon, one Tornado, one normal 230
Baal Predator, flamer sponsons 140
Heavy Support: 5 man Dev squad with 4x Plasma
Transport: 2x Drop pods 70
You plan on having the libby die again?
Ditch the two fists and free up 50 points.
Give the baal HB sponsons so they can earn back points from the very start and add some bodies to that dev squad.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Yes GFX my Flesh EATERS! lol  will have numerous pics taken throughout the game! especially as I have my new fangled digital SLR (that I really don't know much about yet) but it should be an enjoyable battle if somewhat staggered by the stopping and starting while we read the rules! and I'll see if i have a couple of Melta marines to recruit? so i should combat squad them as they come out of the drop pods?
Pyriel!! you're ALIVE!!  I though you'd faded into a sculpting induced coma or something lately?  and yes you'd be right I'm guessing that Librarian Tomas is going to die a horrible sticky death due to lack of self preservation, but I promise you that you'll die in the name of the Emperor and with as much humor as i can muster  sadly my flamer sponsons are glued  that's what you get for dropping it! but i'll just stick the foot down on the 'Go' pedal and get close enough to cook me some space elves!
actually i'm kind of suprised the list was thought of as mostly decent  I'm really using all the cool toys i've painted last year
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Post by: alanmckenzie
The desert yellow looks pretty good. A quick wash and they'll be looking great. I bought the leather brown spary and hoping to highlight up from there. But I've only got about twelve haqqislam to paint, not 100 guardsmen. Hopefully I'll get some test models started this week. But yeah, you're desert yellow looks good, it looks like the finished kinda tone I'm hoping for. And I wouldn't go camo, I just like plain desert fatigues, you can add colour and contrast to the armour, weapons, accessories etc. That's obviously just my personal preferences though. Looking forward to seeing what you do.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Very nice builds. Love the clips. I'll reserve judgement on the desert primer though till washes on - sure it'll look good though once it's been damo-camo'd.
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Post by: dsteingass
Color at this point is irrelevant, it's basically just an undercoat/primer, and lighter is always better to see when painting anyways. Nice troops though Damo, can't wait to see more!
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Post by: KingCracker
Egats! Those look awesome. So awesome infact, youll be pissed when they die in droves! Welcome to the world of playing a horde army. The cool guys die fast. Also, I think Ive got some Catachans sitting around pretending to control the 2nd shelf in my garage.....stupid Rambo Bambis!....Rambis? I dunno. Anywho, PM me I think I can set you up with a couple anyways.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Those are looking quite splendid Nerdy!
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
I'm loving the cow and the barrels that's a great idea!
S.
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Post by: Casey's Law
They look great, dude. Nice mix of themes.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Perfect! Great use of the Anvil bits and the helmets are super cool.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Played my 5th game ever today! I took some pics although the lack of curtains made it bloody hard to get nice ones! I'll write up a bat rep when i have some time although I can give you a quick summary now.....
played 1,500 points against Eldar, annihilation game.....
...... I lost...... again....... 5 for 5 so far :-(
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Don't get frustrated nerdy, I lose a lot more games than I win and I've been playing since the RT days! At any given time, just think about making the most out of the situation you're in. Small victories... things that worked the way you'd hoped, synergies, how good the army looks on the table. The wins will come eventually. Also keep in mind that all codecii are not created equal. There are match-ups that you are just not likely to win due to codex creep.
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Post by: GiraffeX
I never play to win, I just play for fun as long as my army looks nice thats the main thing for me.
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Post by: Flinty
Oooohhh.. Guard! I like the trimmed down lasguns, but I think the clips look a little long. Did you think about trimming them down by even 1 bullet?
I run a couple of Autocannon sentinels as I prefer the 2 shots they get over lascannon, making it possible for them to hit at least once each turn. If your opponent has proper tanks or lots of stuff with AV12 then outflanking makes them most useful. If its just rhinos or light vehicles then you may as well start them on the board and get more shooting out of them.
Also flamer wise I run a PCS in a chimera with 3 flamers and a heavy flamer. When I can get it into contact it does bad things just through weight of fire, but you need to keep their ride protected, either by other vehicles or scenery, for best use. I also run a veteran squad with 2 flamers and a heavy flamer and it also tends to make light work of infantry squads of all kinds. the flamers also help with the inevitable counter charge.
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Post by: kitch102
yeah man, don't get frustrated! Were there any truly epic, wtf moments? In my last game my archon was beaten in close combat by a Tau Shas' el! I was not happy, though it was very funny lol
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Yeah thanks for the support guys! it was fun which was my main aim for the day and there was definitely a few wtf! moments that probably didn't make it any easier for me! for example in one turn of rolling for reserves I managed to have an entire squad of Hammernators and a drop pod full of marines suffer a magical dice roll of a ONE and they both were destroyed without seeing the board! I did learn lots though and have a plan for next time! :-)
Hey Flinty, thanks for the advice, it's really good to see a different take on what works and how people use their force! I haven't armed all my squads yet and i'm running a Vet army so flamers do sound good especially as i have some :-) I should be able to make 2 plasma squads a flamer squad and a melta squad! then we'll see how they go! Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh I am also working on making my own version of Marbo for my force, I used a set of running Kromlech legs and cut them to reposition them into a more suitable pose, I'm trying to go for a stealthy stalking pose with them with the rear foot behind the first, i'm hoping when i get a body it will look as I hope!

and I did a little work on highlighting my fatigues, I'm still torn between camo or not? and I'm also now leaning more heavily into making the theme jungle fighters instead of desert? so i can use browns and dark greens as accents!
I also as of now have removed the reflex sight from the lasgun, it makes it look better imo, and the long clip actually fits nicer without the sight, I couldn't be bothered cutting every single clip down although I admit it would be better! :-)
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Post by: IPS
Very nice progress so far.
I'm not sure if a jungle camo would fit them very well however. The models look rather urban/desert to me.
I doubt a jungle fighter would wear such heavy gear.
Maybe some kind of "allround camo", like a woodland/city camoflage?
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Post by: nerdfest09
Hey IPS, woodland sounds promising :-) I was thinking of using quite angular colour patches on the fatigues perhaps in a heritage green and one other colour? and I'll use the airbrush for the tanks and vehicles camo.
I get what you mean about jungle fighters not wearing such heavy gear, and my idea was for them to be desert themed but now I'm liking the modeling oportunity that mud and foliage can give me! :-)
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Post by: glomscient
A chaparral, like they have in parts of Italy, would be a good setting for them, if you wanted to do tan with green and brown highlights, I think. Google it, it is basically like a temperate desert (if that makes any sense). It would probably be the best of both worlds for your purposes: kind of muddy, with foliage, like a jungle, but sandy camo probably wouldn't look too out of place, I think.
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Just googled and it looks a lot like my home state of Tasmania in parts! could definitely work well!
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I did my bare heads for the Storm Troopers  they were going to be used for the MadRobot site but I'm not doing that now as I just can't get my blending smooth enough and consistent enough for a web site, which is a shame, so we decided to leave it for now, but I still love the products and can't wait to see what Steve's next releases are
anyway, here's the boys looking hard as nails and just waiting for bodies!  I also tried something different when i took pics by using a white background which I think works much better? I'll have to re-take some of my FleshEaters when I get a chance and see how they turn out!
there they are, I hope you guys like 'em I'm looking forward to putting them on legs and bodies soon! should i try and find some special torso's or do you think normal Cadian torsos will suffice?
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Post by: inmygravenimage
I think that with those excellent sculpts and your outstanding paintjob they'll make normal torsos shine!
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Post by: dsteingass
WOW! Your block with nails stuck in it is even nicely painted!!
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Post by: SagesStone
That second from from the end needs to go on a smaller tank or something. He looks a bit upset.
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Post by: dsteingass
He is just constipated from the field rations.
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There it is.
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Post by: nerdfest09
 cheers dudes! if he were constipated from rations I'd paint googly eyes on him to match the upset mouth he has...poor guy! perhaps he's sad the Vendetta's killed all the squishy things he was going to shoot at with his hotshot flashlight?
I'll try and assemble some bodies tomorrow for them to dummy the heads onto to see what it looks like  and speaking of assembling things, how do you recommend I represent Marbo's weapons? just a knife and lasgun? and just make them a bit different to show his individual nature?
also I get to move the Nerd Lair into it's very own Nerd Lair room tomorrow that is dedicated to only Nerd stuff! so i may have some pics of the new room of happiness! Automatically Appended Next Post:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by: TheAngrySquig
nerdfest09 wrote:for example in one turn of rolling for reserves I managed to have an entire squad of Hammernators and a drop pod full of marines suffer a magical dice roll of a ONE and they both were destroyed without seeing the board!
Silly thing to nitpick out of this whole thread, but you've been playing wrong. Drop Pods can't mishap, they have an Inertial Guidance rule which lets you place them one inch away if you would otherwise mishap
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TheAngrySquig wrote: nerdfest09 wrote:for example in one turn of rolling for reserves I managed to have an entire squad of Hammernators and a drop pod full of marines suffer a magical dice roll of a ONE and they both were destroyed without seeing the board!
Silly thing to nitpick out of this whole thread, but you've been playing wrong. Drop Pods can't mishap, they have an Inertial Guidance rule which lets you place them one inch away if you would otherwise mishap
lol what!? dammit  I thought because I scattered off the board they all went KabooooOOOOM?
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Post by: GiraffeX
They can if they go off the board
Just make sure always drop them 12" away from any board edge and your sorted
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Post by: nerdfest09
GiraffeX wrote:They can if they go off the board
Just make sure always drop them 12" away from any board edge and your sorted
Phew! glad they ate it like they should've then!  that'll teach me to try and actually land near the action! my only other point was the complete other side of the board where there was absolutely nothing they could do!
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Post by: Casey's Law
Beautiful paint jobs and I'm laughing. What more is needed from a blog.
Sadface definitely needs to be placed in some hilarious situation. Actually it's the perfect head for one of those 'marine protecting his face from plasma gun overheating' conversions.
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Post by: TheAngrySquig
nerdfest09 wrote: TheAngrySquig wrote: nerdfest09 wrote:for example in one turn of rolling for reserves I managed to have an entire squad of Hammernators and a drop pod full of marines suffer a magical dice roll of a ONE and they both were destroyed without seeing the board!
Silly thing to nitpick out of this whole thread, but you've been playing wrong. Drop Pods can't mishap, they have an Inertial Guidance rule which lets you place them one inch away if you would otherwise mishap
lol what!? dammit  I thought because I scattered off the board they all went KabooooOOOOM?
You put them off the board? Wow I thought you just knocked into some terrain. Try to use your drop pods a bit more offensively, put them near objectives or enemy squads you want to destroy.
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Post by: Flinty
With the reflex sight, how about trimming the top of the lasgun down flat and just have the reflex. It would be like modern rifles with rail systems on top rather than using iron sights. Also the red berets look suitably bad ass!
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Post by: Casey's Law
I like Flinty's idea too. Also I think you should cut the clips down as you were considering, it'll be a pain but I think it'll make them look tonnes better. That or use the same ones you had on the sergeants pistol.
Sincerely,
The Devil on your shoulder.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Casey's Law wrote:I like Flinty's idea too. Also I think you should cut the clips down as you were considering, it'll be a pain but I think it'll make them look tonnes better. That or use the same ones you had on the sergeants pistol.
Sincerely,
The Devil on your shoulder.
Dear devil,
I am writing this letter to discuss with you some issues we have had lately, I would like to rectify the negative feelings we have had towards each other and hereby accept your offer of advice and direction in my life, I only ask that you please suck a mint before you whisper in my ears with your breath like a burning anus.
sincerely
Damian (Nerdfest09)
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Post by: Casey's Law
Hahaha!
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Post by: dsteingass
Hahaha that is some bad breath!
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Post by: nerdfest09
Smells worse than Devlan Mud!
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Post by: KingCracker
Icky.
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Post by: dsteingass
GW confirmed that "essense of ass" was an active ingredient in Devlan Mud.
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Post by: Casey's Law
True story.
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Post by: nerdfest09
dsteingass wrote:GW confirmed that "essense of ass" was an active ingredient in Devlan Mud.
I thought that was the name of one of the new colours in the range?
hey, I got a tank question for you all, i'm looking at a tank or 2 for my guard and I'm pretty hooked on the Punisher! there's something about heavy 20 that gets me a little *ahem* 'happy' i've done some reading on various threads about tanks and guard but it seems most are filled with uber competitive people that spout numbers and possibilities like spittle from their frothing mouths! i'm more about the fun and the modeling~  I have gleaned however that if you take a tank you should take at least 2 of the same variant? so, do you believe I can have some deadly fun with 2 punishers?  and if not, what say you bottom?
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Post by: Ovion
Frankly, at the end of the day - if you're not going super competitive about it - who cares.
Pick what looks cool and makes you happy.
And 2 lots of Heavy 20 sounds pretty awesome to me.
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Two lots of 20 will cause lots of pain even on terminators!
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Post by: nerdfest09
Hmmm 2 lots of 20 will be painful won't it! :-) it's a toss up between the Punishers or Executioners with plasma sponsons! 245 points for an Executioner that has heavy 3 blast! which would be VERY painful in the right circumstances! or 200 flat for the Punisher with either bolter or flame sponsons? i'm trying to figure out what will be scariest for my potential opponents? :-) my friends have Eldar,Space Marines,Tyranids,Tau,BA,Space Wolves,Nurgle Marines..... but like Ovion said it is just for fun games and enjoyment so I can't go wrong whatever I choose really, I just like some input from those who actually understand the game lol!
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Post by: dsteingass
I don't understand the game either, but I like what giraffe said about killing terminators. Anything you can do to kill marines is always the right choice! The Russ Punisher has the new turret style, but wouldn't the pecker..err..I mean the Plasma variant be better against power-armored troops? Guardsman only get BS3, so the usefulness of any weapon in-game is diminished by the dice roll. The Plasma variant looks like a schlong..sorry, for coolness- go with the punisher Automatically Appended Next Post: Maybe it's just me, but a turret with a pecker-shaped weapon should probably be Slaneeshi Chaos right?
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Put Pask in one. Pask-squisher! BS4 makes those 20 shots much funnier. Yay Pask-squisher.
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Post by: GiraffeX
Dont forget the Vanquisher as well that boy has a long one weighing in at 72" ST8 AP2 with a 1" blast, FW do a nice Stygies variant.
If you going for anti terms the two punishers will take them out due to number of shots but its not a reliable due to AP- great against horde armies though.
I agree with dsteingass on the pecker... I mean Executioner it is the best anti term weapon.
There's also the Medusa as well but its less armoured.
All depends if size matters to you
Edit: Dont forget you can run them in squadrons so you could have 2-3 punishers, 2-3 peckers and run up 2-3 Medusa's behind for the anti armour hit.
Oh then you have your Valk's, Vendetta's and Vultures (which can have a twin-linked punisher cannon) for air support.
For total air supremacy you could ally in a helturkey as well if you turned to the dark gods for support  you could then take that DP you were talking about as the HQ. All too happy to spend all your money, I mean help
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Post by: kitch102
I can vouch for how deadly the executioner (plasma variant  ) is - my bro in law and I faced off against one of these, screwed up our target priority simply through not knowing better and next thing we know, my B-i-L's army has been decimated.
HOWEVER, given the choice I'd go with the Punisher purely for how fething cool it would be to roll a couple of tanks out and throw more dice in one shooting phase as a result of those tanks than your opponent would have models on the table
Graven has it right too, bang Pask in there to really capitalise on those dice rolls
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Post by: nerdfest09
Dammit! now i'm not sure again! lol! at first i was like "yeah heavy 20 punisher booooo yeahhhhh" then i was like "yeah but it has limited purposes" then i was like "Ececutioner Booo Yeahhhhh 5 shots of plasma useful against everything!" then i was like "Oh but it looks like a penis"
so, if I have 2 Vendettas for anti tank duty, would it be a safe bet that the punisher (probably with Pask) would be a better bet for chewing through marines tac squads and maybe a termi or 2? only other thing he has worth killing is a DC dread and friends! :-)
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Post by: GiraffeX
Punishers would be the most fun, here have a bucket full of dice at ya.
If I remember rightly you cant use pasks ability if you move his tank not thats its an issue but something to consider with the short range of the punisher.
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Post by: IPS
I never played IG tank armies myself, but played against them several times with tau.
The punishers where kinda lame, and not really something to fear.
Executioners on the other hand where scary in most games and I tryed to take them out asap. (not really difficult with 4 railguns however..^^)
The most scary tanks where the standart leman russ.
They are pure nightmare to every other army out there.
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IPS wrote:I never played IG tank armies myself, but played against them several times with tau.
The punishers where kinda lame, and not really something to fear.
Executioners on the other hand where scary in most games and I tryed to take them out asap. (not really difficult with 4 railguns however..^^)
The most scary tanks where the standart leman russ.
They are pure nightmare to every other army out there.
Hmmm interesting take there,  everything I've read to date has really been negative towards the good 'ol workhorse standard Leman Russ! especially as the variants are so powerful, but in saying that, if I have 2 Vendettas flying around, 2 Executioners are really gonna mess with his head right?  I do plan on grabbing some more standard Russes down the track but for now I need to give my force some punch!
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Post by: IPS
Thing about the Executioner is they are kinda shortranged (yes I play tau, everything under 72" is shortranged.. XD)
and really expansive, also because of the small templates they tend to miss several shots.
The Battletank on the otherhand can hit everywhere and will hit something most of the times.
They rarely scatter so much that there is nothing under the 5" template.
Maybe put it that way: the Executioner are really scary when they come close to your army,
but are a bit more managable and predictable than the Battletanks.
But yea, with the vendettas flying arround it should be quite effective.
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Well, it won't hurt to give it a shot then will it lol! I have 1 battle tank which i'll add to later, but I think the Executioner may be the ticket for me :-) it's still longer range than the punisher and will give him something he can't forget about on the table! now I just need to make sure i can make it look cool with it's supposed phallic armament ;-)
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Post by: GiraffeX
I vote for throbbing pink OSL
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Post by: nerdfest09
Well, throbbing pink osl would be perfect match for my lord Commissar Brendan Hammerbush! :-)
although I'll probably do blue or green?
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I would say go for purple/black light osl.
You don't see that very often and it looks really dark and manacing ; )
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Post by: guinness707
If I can submit my humble opinion on the tank matter I would suggest the Executioner or stock LRBT. For the sake of cool definately go with throbbing pink, tha'd be epic. To the tank though I think people often forget how effective multiple blasts can be when comming from the same unit firing. On average a stock LRBT can hit say 5-6 guys from a single direct hit (give or take) large blast template. When its part of a squadron you resolve eace template BEFORE you remove casualties. That said, two LRBT's can easilly score a whopping 8-12 S8, AP3 hits on a unit even with scattering due to maximum target density when firing. When you apply that same principle to the Executioner....holy crap. I've played with and against pairs and trio's of them. They are not to be trifled with. Due to the get's hot rule though i'd not suggest puting the plasma sponsons on there. Just use heavy bolter sponsons and keep the points managable (plus the range synergizes with the plasma).
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Post by: KingCracker
Yea when it comes to playing,Im more for fun,but you still want a chance to win at least. So as cool an idea it is rolling an Orks worth of dice from a giant gatling gun,its just not a decent enoughh tank. Maybe if you took a bunch of them.... but even still, roughly half wont hit, so youll need those 10hits to do magic. But against squishy things, I could see them doing damage.
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Post by: SagesStone
I'm not sure of the names, but the plasma one sounds the most fun. I may be biased though as I kind of like OSL.
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Post by: nerdfest09
O.k i'm now sold on the Executioner!  i'll buy 2 as soon as finances allow (or I 'make' finances allow!) then I'll paint the glow in a purple/pink style if I can get it to look right  I can always get some Punishers in the future, but for now, like KC mentioned i'm all for the cool but I would still like it to be decent if I play!
and exciting news on the Nerd Cave front! I moved all my Nerdness into the new Nerd room and it feels like home!  just need to figure out the best way to mount and hang some posters I have, then it's on to the Nerdness! I have got my tank accesories from China, so a bucket load of canvas rolls, tarps, duffel bags etc. to glue on my tanks, then I'll start priming and chipping them  and I also got a msg from my dad (bless his cotton socks) he's finally printed the stained glass windows out for me to use in my buildings!  so after an excruciating wait I should get them tomorrow and be able to do something over the weekend!
another little paint question? you've seen the colour i'm painting my guards fatigues right? and now I'm planning on adding camo, does anyone have any designs that would work well with only the addition of 2 other colours? I'm thinking of a light bone and a dark reddish brown? or green? I like stronger designs like the ones that use triangles and sharper edges, but i'm open to any suggestions
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Post by: dsteingass
You can magnetize all the weapon options, don't forget that!
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Nope, not me! I'm a little ocd with my models! I cannot bring myself to magnetize anything *sigh* I've tried before but I rather like seeing every damn option available on my shelf! and apparently I also like throwing money away........
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Once you get the kit, you'll see how easy it is
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Pah! you should know me better than that by now Dave :-) I still haven't got a chop-it yet! I had to cut the small barrels for my carbines by eye! so even if something is practical and easy i'll still probably go the long way round for a shortcut lol!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Sounds like the nerdwench has been spoiling you again...
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Oh yes Graven and i took pics.....
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Steady on!!!
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I'm glad you've got a new nerdlair! Make sure you pee on the doorjamb to mark it as YOURS!
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Lol  o.k o.k i'll steady on! .....so you don't want pics then?......... oh my lordy i'm feeling tired tonight!  just shut my eyes to think of a smart ass comment and I nearly dropped off to sleep!  that's not a good sign eh!  especially as I still have 3 hours to go and a 30 min drive home! i'll just have to think about all the Nerding i can do on my days off week after next! that'll pump me up good and proper
I've already pee'd on the doorjamb and rolled naked on my realm of Battle board! whic I'm now regretting as i used sand and glue to texture it = sandpaper
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If you change the name from "sandpaper" to "exfoliating" Women will spend big bucks on it.
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dsteingass wrote:If you change the name from "sandpaper" to "exfoliating" Women will spend big bucks on it.
Well, I'm going to go home and tell the Nerdwench about this great game called Exfoliating 40K!  and how you buy these little Exfoliating figures that are great!
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HAHA YES! She might even fall for it!
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dsteingass wrote:If you change the name from "sandpaper" to "exfoliating" Women will spend big bucks on it.
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Post by: GiraffeX
Pics are always good, but please no shots of you combat rolling across your Realm of Battle board
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Post by: KingCracker
nerdfest09 wrote: dsteingass wrote:If you change the name from "sandpaper" to "exfoliating" Women will spend big bucks on it.
Well, I'm going to go home and tell the Nerdwench about this great game called Exfoliating 40K!  and how you buy these little Exfoliating figures that are great!
Have you ever stepped on a Chaos Terminator or some random Tyranid? Those exfoliate somehting fierce
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Well hello ladies and gentlemen!  I have lots of shots today for your critique and viewing pleasure! but you can't look!... Oh No No!..... if you scroll down and look at my post you must promise to do me a favor?  I need some input on camo again so I need a little bit of advice and direction!
....O.k so now we're here, about an inch down the post...... not much happening eh!
ENOUGH FOOLING AROUND DAMO! I hear you cry!
alright here's where I am at the moment, I've started the tanks,  I stuck some baggage and rolls on them and then gave them a coat of metal primer to start the base for the chipping that will show through the paint later on.



after the primer dried, I mixed some orange/brown and old GW Flesh Wash and water together and washed all the vehicles with it so the metal still had a sheen under the wash,

next step was to grab some boltgun metal and overbrush the whole tanks again, this kind of blends the rusty brown with a more recent damage colour, lastly I used a small amount of mithril silver mixed in.

after waiting for the washes to dry I then used sponge and sponged on some Humbrol liquid mask to be the chipping on the hulls, after it dried overnight I mixed some white glue and fine ballast together and roughly stippled it on the lower parts for dirt and grit, I want them to look weathered and dirty but not totally caked in mud and muck  I popped them outside to dry faster and then I got to the good bit! PRIMER!  after i coated them with a nice even coat of Desert Yellow Army Painter Primer I really like the progress and look!

Now this leads me to the input I ask of you  I have the base coat done and now need to add my stripes of my main other camo colour? but what one to use? I've decided on Vallejo Air 'Sand' as my lighter colour for squiggles and small dots etc. (whatever I decide on) but the big stripes on the tanks and splotches on the fatigues?
I took a pic of the primer lid with my options on it, So, there's the dark red at the top of the pic, the green in the middle and the red brown at the bottom, I added a little of the sand colour so you can see the contrasts I'm going for with the camo design!
can't wait to do more now!  so as soon as i get a firm hold on the next step I'll whip it up fast!
Damo
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I like the red on the bottom of the lid. Nice crotch shot Damo... are you trying to tell us something, or just cruisin'??
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Post by: SagesStone
Should remember that if you somehow get around to Necrons.
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Post by: dsteingass
Awesome!- Give the beige dots a dk. Brown chocolate chip center!
Perhaps offset slightly even?
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Well, now that tanks are involved I am in
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Yeah, I'm thinking red too. Interesting process using the metal primer, btw.
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Post by: GiraffeX
I'm going to go for the red as well.
Gitsplitta wrote:Nice crotch shot Damo... are you trying to tell us something, or just cruisin'??
I think Damo is trying to make up for using Executioners
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Post by: KingCracker
Yea, the red looks better for some reason. Maybe because its not the usual camo color? Thats my pick
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Post by: Dr H
Tanks look good.  I really like the cloth hanging on the front of the turret of one of them, did you make that yourself?
As for the camo'; yeah the red/brown would be very interesting, but I would probably make it a little more brown, just a touch. If it's your "dark" part of the camoflage it could do with being a little less vibrant. But that's what I'd do anyway. Maybe you could then highlight with the slightly "redder" red/brown then...
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Post by: Commander Cain
Am I missing something here? You based the tanks silver, washed them with orange... and then sprayed all over it. Surely that defeats the whole purpose of the previous two steps?!
Oh, red camo for sure!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i am feeling stupid to chime in with all the others... but yeah... red camo combo! and seeing these aluminium tanks... probably the weirdest show i´ve yet seen here on dakka... and believe me... we´ve seen here quite some disturbing sights... oh wait... then there was that crotch shot of someone...can´t remember for my sins who commited that
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It's not weird, he's just pre-planning his weathering.
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that´s what´s so weird for me... me... i ain´t planning anything... it sort of not possible for my mind... planless...clueless
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Post by: IPS
The dark red seems strangely watered down for some reason.
I think I ilke the green the best.
Simply because it's something new^^
(and maybe because my own IG has exactly the dark brown camo on them.. XD)
also nice details work on the tanks
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Commander Cain wrote:Am I missing something here? You based the tanks silver, washed them with orange... and then sprayed all over it. Surely that defeats the whole purpose of the previous two steps?!
Oh, red camo for sure! 
Im imagining hes going to use either water and a sponge, or thinner to remove the tan paint randomly. Doing that will expose the colors underneath showing wear and tear on the tanks.
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Hey guys! looks like the overwhelming support is for the Red/Brown !  and to be honest I was hoping it would swing that way although I wanted to get some input which I appreciate greatly!
and yep, the metal steps on the tanks was really pretty quick and easy and Dave (as I would expect!) got it right  all I did was assemble them then prime them with metal primer which takes no time at all, then a watery wash and a big brush for the orange and the same brush for the metal overbrush, and it will indeed be the basis for the weathering, I stippled on some liquid mask to pull off after I've done my airbrush camo stripes! I could have just done the lower half if I was only chipping the bottom, but with IG tanks I wasn't actually sure where I was going to chip it so I went over the whole tank even though the chipping isn't going to be extensive.
all the additions for the tanks I got online, and no sadly I don't have the skills to make such a fine looking tarp for the turret  it was bought with the rest of the bits and i trimmed some of the corners off to shorten it to fit, which it does perfectly!
so now i have the colours down for the camo, what design shall i aim for? any pics that people have seen or prefer?
see you tonight!
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Post by: Dr H
Ah, fair enough. It does indeed fit perfectly, that's why I asked if you'd made it. Good find.
For camo inspiration the internet is your friend. However, I can throw you a good picture I found that has many varieties and should be good for inspiration.
I am a fan of the typical wavy blob camoflage you get as an option on most real world military models.
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Ah. I thought you were going to remove the top layer of paint somehow. You had me confused there for a bit!
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Post by: KingCracker
Dr H wrote:Ah, fair enough. It does indeed fit perfectly, that's why I asked if you'd made it. Good find.
For camo inspiration the internet is your friend. However, I can throw you a good picture I found that has many varieties and should be good for inspiration.
I am a fan of the typical wavy blob camoflage you get as an option on most real world military models.
Hey that camo pic is from the 3rd (I think) edition Guard codex!
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KingCracker wrote: Dr H wrote:Ah, fair enough. It does indeed fit perfectly, that's why I asked if you'd made it. Good find.
For camo inspiration the internet is your friend. However, I can throw you a good picture I found that has many varieties and should be good for inspiration.
I am a fan of the typical wavy blob camoflage you get as an option on most real world military models.
Hey that camo pic is from the 3rd (I think) edition Guard codex!
Is it? Awesome! It's even more relevant than I thought. I just found it on the internet and stuck it in my "camo" folder for later.
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Post by: iheartlargeblasttemplates
Love your blog, very inspiring. Great painting.
I don't know how you have all those armies haha soo many projects!
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Post by: dsteingass
If you are going to do chocolate chips on the uniforms, then just do a simple 2 or 3 color disruption pattern on the tanks.
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Dr H wrote: KingCracker wrote: Dr H wrote:Ah, fair enough. It does indeed fit perfectly, that's why I asked if you'd made it. Good find.
For camo inspiration the internet is your friend. However, I can throw you a good picture I found that has many varieties and should be good for inspiration.
I am a fan of the typical wavy blob camoflage you get as an option on most real world military models.
Hey that camo pic is from the 3rd (I think) edition Guard codex!
Is it? Awesome! It's even more relevant than I thought. I just found it on the internet and stuck it in my "camo" folder for later.
Yea it was. That is a cool dex as far as everything outside of the rules. Tons of cool pics and conversions and ideas and such. It had a lot for back then, when it was pretty much rules and little else.
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Ooo, I found this that I'd forgotten about. It actually describes how to do a variety of camoflage schemes from some 40k people and uses a landraider as a demo. Again, I found it on the internet.
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Thanks Dr H that was an excellent few pages of schemes! I feel pretty confident now which way I'll lean with my stripes, airbrush a few diagonal stripes along the sides and reaching over the top part way should look good and fit the theme of the force!
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nerdfest09 wrote:Thanks Dr H that was an excellent few pages of schemes! I feel pretty confident now which way I'll lean with my stripes, airbrush a few diagonal stripes along the sides and reaching over the top part way should look good and fit the theme of the force!
Cool. Glad to help. Look forward to seeing what you do.
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Well you should see some stripe progress in about 5 days time, then it'll be details and troops on the days after that! should be a pretty good few days for painting and updates!
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Post by: GiraffeX
Time to start a count down then?
Looking forward to seeing the tanks painted.
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I love it when the Blogs forums are nice and updated. Gives me plenty of time to kill looking at everyones awesomeness
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Post by: Azazelx
Flinty wrote:With the reflex sight, how about trimming the top of the lasgun down flat and just have the reflex. It would be like modern rifles with rail systems on top rather than using iron sights. Also the red berets look suitably bad ass!
You could also cut a very thin strip of plasticard and glue it to the tops of the weapons, for a G36C-type look.
Automatically Appended Next Post: nerdfest09 wrote:Hmmm 2 lots of 20 will be painful won't it! :-) it's a toss up between the Punishers or Executioners with plasma sponsons! 245 points for an Executioner that has heavy 3 blast! which would be VERY painful in the right circumstances! or 200 flat for the Punisher with either bolter or flame sponsons? i'm trying to figure out what will be scariest for my potential opponents? :-) my friends have Eldar,Space Marines,Tyranids,Tau, BA,Space Wolves,Nurgle Marines..... but like Ovion said it is just for fun games and enjoyment so I can't go wrong whatever I choose really, I just like some input from those who actually understand the game lol!
Visit Kromlech's eBay store and get yourself some variant turrets! Swap out as needed, or depending on your mood...
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Hey everyone  can I put a shout out to you guys to see if anyone has some bitz i'm after? it may be a longshot but I'm looking for any plastic Catachan arms I can get my hands on at the moment? preferably not holding a gun etc.  it's for my Marbo conversion and I've been looking around but thought i'd see if anyone who passes through here has any spare  i'm happy to recipricate with some SM parts or paint a model for someone? I think i could work some magic with the catachan mortar arm and convert him to be holding a blade in a reverse grip? but first i'll see what's out and about!
speaking of bitz and models! to all those who I have things to send! don't fret I haven't forgotten you! inmygravenimage I have a couple of Autocannons ready to go! Gits your marine is packed up ready, Kingcracker soon you shall be warbossed up to the eyeballs, GiraffeX your Celestial Lion Chapter master is itching to rip someone's heart out!  and Pyriel.... you have to wait a little longer i'm afraid as my slack friend is at a music festival and uncontactable! (damn hippies)
if i forgot anyone please PM me and let me know so i can rectify the situation!
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I'll see if I got some of those arms your're after. Shipping to Australia should take about three centuries but I'll let you know if I find anything!
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Lol thanks heaps Sigur! that's be awesome if you do have any lying around :-) I can shoot you postage costs and some for the arms via PayPal if you find some! just let me know what you want to do...... lol....Three Centuries......so true....
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It only takes so long because the fauna there have a bad habit of eating the mail carriers
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STOP!.............Hammer time!...No?.... Nerdfest09 time?....yeah that's better
Tank-O-rama my friends I got paintin' today and added the camo stripes on all my vehicles and even managed to do more on my Leman Russ, I had one of those moments like in 'Happy Gilmore' when everyone says he can't putt but then he sinks it after practicing and turns to Shooter McGavin and says "Looks like Happy learned how to putt" well, "Looks like Nerdfest learned how to weather vehicles"...  it's working so far I think!
anyway, here's some stage shots of how i'm going!
first just the red/brown stripes:


then I grabbed my Devlin mud and gave it a delicate wash around all the sharp edges and details which made it pop with the colours imo?

Then I began the chipping! using my finger nail to scrape some paint off and expose the metal underneath which was made easier by the addition of the liquid mask i sponged on earlier then used a rough stiff bristled brush to scrub at it and the result so far is pretty good and is an excellent base for future painting in the coming days!

my Kromlech Plasma rifles arrived and they look much more imperial guard I think than the other rather bulky ones! a little bit sleeker and suit my force.
Stained glass, not Dave Steingass although they are both pretty damn cool and can be tricky to reproduce!  I cut out some of the design I finally got printed (thanks dad) and used the black gel pen to give the 3D impression of the leading in the windows, this method works well on larger pieces but the ink is a bit thick to do any really fine work, I managed to use it and highlight just some parts of the smaller window so it gave the impression of the leading even though i didn't follow all the lines.
here you can see the raised ink and how it looks close up.
a kind of washed out shot of the whole piece I'm using.
this was just a rough mock up for fitment, i will cut it up and make broken panels etc. and have small jagged parts still left in frames, but it looks good scale wise and I thought you'd like to have a look

finally I started some fatigue camo!  I like where it's going and after details and highlighting it'll be sweet I think? first just the red brown stripes randomly.

then i added some small dots in 'sand' to break it up and it looks much better, as well as following the advice of Flinty I shortened the magazine on the lasgun/whatever it it now


PHEW!! what an update and it only took me less than 3 hours to do all that today  talk about twilight zone! I must have really been in the moment
love to know what you think, I hope it looks as you imagined? the models are definitely looking how i imagined at this stage and i can't wait to do more on Monday!
Ciao
Damo
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Post by: SagesStone
Nerdhammer time.
Love the stained glass.
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Post by: grrrfranky
Good work. That's a really simple and effective camo scheme on the troops, and the weathering looks great.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very impressive work all-round Damo. Those tanks are looking great and the stained glass is very well done. I did something similar with stained glass on my MoTF base. Worked out well there too.
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Post by: Flinty
Lovely results all round! The stained glass looks totally awesome.
Regarding the executioner, you could always substitute other plasma based weaponry rather than using the mighty weapon if doom that comes with it. I used a couple of marine plasma cannon stuck together for mine.
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Post by: Dr H
The red works for me. Good camo.
and the weathering looks good.
Are you going to add the sand coloured dots to the tanks, or is that just for the men?
Would probably have to be a different size though...
Stained glass looks good in situ.
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Hahaha I've heard every possible phonetic funny of my name but not "Stained Glass" LMAO man!
"Dave's Finegrass" is still my all-time favorite
The camo weathering is fantastic Damo! ANd the glass just blows me away! Damn fine job!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
love the stained glass you did! that is a fine referrence for all of us! i keep that in the back of my mind for the day i will definatly use this!
tanks looks lovley too...tho i i prefer camo a bit less smooth looking... on your troopers tho it looks way better!
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Well Vik, remember, the patterns on fatigues are always gonna be smaller than a larger object like a tank
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aye... but the color transition is for my taste a bit too smooth... tho i admitt i am not really that firm with camo techniques at all... so i have to sit this one out till it´s finsihed^^
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Post by: Yellowbeard
Nice work, Damo. The camo's looking great, and I really love the stained glass.
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Post by: dsteingass
You only use sharp contrasting colors when you want a disruption pattern (confusing the lines of the tank from the human eye) Damo's has been faded madly by sandstorms and battle wear in a desert environment
You and I are used to seeing woodland summer/winter patterns for use in our European/Northern US environments Vik
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
full marks on both points dave... haven´t thought about that but your reasoning is spot on!
only other camo effect that is more unsual but still disruptive pattern is shaso´s!
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Post by: shasolenzabi
I like the helmets, where'd they come from again? nice chop work on the G-36lasguns, and the beat up effect on the tanks is awesome!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
The camo is stunning mate! Love the weathering, on the dozer blades especially. Stained glass has come up a treat, it's been something of a mystery to me how to do that convincingly.
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Nice work on the room Nerdy... love the hazard striping on the desk top. How'd you do it?
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The hazard stripes are tits!- You're gonna need more shelves
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I want your space marine posters :( Kindly pop them in the post, thanks very much  xxx
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
now that is scratching on bro qualities here... i´m bloddy envious!!! i want my own complete room now too! *scratches head where to put rivets and hazard stripes on now to at least have some small resemblance of such a cool thing...*
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Lol thanks guys (and girl!) :-) the Hazard stripes are just heavy duty canvas tape! and the posters I actually got from ebay! pretty cheap and the quality is brilliant, they're really thick and have a great finish and they are also pretty tough, I was impressed, if you want me to find the seller and PM you Bubble just let me know?
Oh Dave, I know man! more shelves are a must! I am having shelves built under the gaming table so they will be hidden by a curtain and I can put larger things under there and free up more space on my current shelves!
now i'm off to paint for the day and update late tonight! (the Nerd Wench has the laptop at work all day) so chuck a comment up and she'll be refreshed later :-)
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Slowly, the nerffest turns into the nerdfest... Looking good mr!
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Yeah, I built one gigantic shelf under my table
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Very jealous of your nerd room, looks great.
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Nerdfest im in awe dude, those IG look so badass!! I want to whip out my force now but they arent as awesome looking as yours :(
Fantastic work, so impressed!
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Absolutely Amazing Nerd! SOlid techniques all around, and fantastic Guardsmen!
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Love that tank... and those guardsmen are fantastic! (and I almost never say that)
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nerdfest09 wrote:
if you want me to find the seller and PM you Bubble just let me know?
That would be great, thank you!
Going back to the last page- I really like your stained glass, but I wanna see you do a lovely religious mural type one
And the colour scheme on your tank is really pretty  Great work! xxx
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The guard and tank are looking fantastic, I really like the way weathering came out.
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Good LAWD! Ive been gone a few days and this is what I come back to! Its nearing an overload. For realz Damo.........this is wicked. All of it. The Guardsmen look fracking fantastic! Seeing 80+ of those guys on a table will be just sweet and your tank is pure grade A bad assidry. I also like the ass protecting ass cushion. I have one of those as well
Funny enough, the scheme you chose for your Guard is very similar to how I thought of painting Guard, but I was thinking blue instead of red. Great minds eh? Automatically Appended Next Post: PS. I got a new cam and mic. So we can chat without me having to bust out the floraltop! SQUEEE!
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Yes! Ass-protection is essential
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Gentlemen, ass protection is definitely a must when you have a day off and spend 6-8 hours painting in the new and improved Nerd lair!  and what did i paint? MOAR GUARD! yes I got nearly the rest of my 10 man Vet squad done!  very nearly, it's not turning out to be my smoothest or neatest job but I am going to be kind to myself as I am sure it's going to be the first squad of many many little goggled men!  my main prob was after i washed them with agrax earthshade and then highlighted them, the colour looked off somehow and i kept going incase it came right for me! it didn't and I scratched my head perplexed as I wasn't sold on how it looked  and then it hit me! I used the wrong bloody wash!  aargh! but which one did I use? was it Ogryn Flesh? Chestnut Ink?, Devlin Mud?, Agrax earthshade?, Flesh Wash?, no? ........
........ then it hit me, DUH  I bought a bottle of Army Painter Soft Tone!  specifically to use on my new force! so, I had to re wash and highlight which took me longer than I wanted and made it just a bit messier on the paintjob, but they look o.k so far and are shaping up to be finished tomorrow as well as the Leman russ!
Cool, hope you like!  see ya tomorrow!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Very cool indeed. Liking the kromlech packs a lot.
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Post by: Sheep
They are looking really nice mate, the scheme really comes together in the end.
Also where in Australia are you located?
Keep it up
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Post by: Gitsplitta
They'll be fine mate. Get some of the other bits on them painted and it'll break them up enough visually that you won't even notice. Besides, these boys might have been issued clothes from a slightly different dye lot...
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Lol thanks guys! now the wash is dry I can't really tell the difference which is a relief! and once I paint the guns and lenses, grenades etc it'll be all good! that's the fun for tomorrow, I have 5 cd's lined up ready to crank up and paint ALL DAY!
and Sheep I'm hiding away wayyyyyy down under! in Tassie dude! :-) glad you like the Guard so far, i can feel myself buying bucket loads of tanks!
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Hey Damo, those are some righteous guardsmen! I am now a proud subscriber to this thread!
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Post by: Rayth Phaenor
Always nice to see variety in IG regiments, good work. The paintscheme looks great, I love the autogun conversions, and the head swaps really characterize them. It's hard to believe that they're still made from mostly Cadian bits.
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Nice work on those guardsmen Nerdy... they're going to look great en'masse. Doggies are very cute. I see you have the black & white thing going on too (same for my cats).
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I like the roll, nicely done.
The rest of the tank and the chappies are all looking nice as well.
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What breed are the white dogs again?
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The force is coming along nicely. The Russ, in particular looks great. Really nice weathering. I also really like the weaponns on the Guardsmen. How do you paint the metals on them?
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Post by: bubble
WOW nerdfest!!! I wish I could produce as much high quality stuff as you in the time frame you do it in!
The roll on the tank is looking amazing!!!
And also- the stained glass! I'm glad I mentioned doing a religiousy type one now cuz what you've come up with there is perfect
xxxx
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Thanks everyone!  sorry I didn't finish them all, but at least next update will be decent!  I really want to finish Lt Gruber in his little tanks  he'll be first on the list next week!
nOt_u Big Willy is a Samoyed  they are 'people' dogs mate! they don't care what they're doing as long as they have their family around! i'm actually pretty happy with him at the moment he was entered into a show over the weekend and bought home best of breed on both days! so in a fortnight he's going for his champion title!  I reckon he'll romp it home with a win!
YB, hey man! the guns are embarassingly basic! it's boltgun metal washed with Nuln Oil and highlighted with Mithril silver! easy as pie
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Whoa! Willy is a frigging Champion!
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Nice! Well I'll add that breed name to the list of ones I think are cool.
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n0t_u wrote:Nice! Well I'll add that breed name to the list of ones I think are cool. 
Lol.... COOL is the best term for him  double coat, bred in Siberia used to the cold climes! they're awesome dogs but can be stubborn (as with most snow dog breeds) very caring ans with buckets of personality! my home is filled with the 3 stooges of dogs! 2 Samoyeds and Oscar the LabX it's a madhouse when they get going, I'll keep you posted after Big Willy's next show hopefully I can call him a champion!  not a champion of Khorne though
no chance for hobby yet, but I'm thinking about what to do next? after I do the 2 Vet squads should I work on my 2 sentinels? or my 2 Vendetta's? I can't do my 10 Storm Troopers until i get some more cool parts
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Sentinels Nerd, i need inspiring to do mine!
By the way this stuff is coming out nicer than i could ever have imagined! The tank camo and chipping is beautiful and the colour scheme not just unique but cooked to perfection! (I mean painted.)
I fear I must have missed this because I dont believe it would have received so little enthusiasm otherwise, but HOW ON EARTH did you do that religious glass pane? It looks incredible, as always you are enticing me to abandon all my projects and just try to imitate you!
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Oh J-Paint!  you make me blush with such praise! I mean seriously when it comes to guard and awesome paint it's YOU who inspired ME!  I am glad you think it's coming together nicely, I put a lot of thought into the colours and feel I wanted for the force and I believe it's a good combo to represent a desert or arid environment force and at a stretch it can still look quite dry forest/bush land!
it was hard for me to bring myself to not highlight and paint as i normally do  especially with the tank, I wanted to be dirty and gritty but not hide the vehicle beneath an overload of mud and camo that would have totally disguised the vehicle itself (if that makes sense?)
and you like the window pane?  sweet! I do too, and it's dead simplez! gimme ten minutes or so and I'll be back to tell you what I did? Automatically Appended Next Post: O.k I'm back! J the window is pretty easy, I googled some images I liked and thought could be used well in buildings, I then emailed them to my father who re sized them and had them printed on clear acetate (you can just print them on paper and have them photocopied onto the clear for about $5) I wanted the leading look and researched model train sites for ideas but stumbled on a scrapbooking site of all things! they were talking about these gel pens that leave a raised ink when used on glossy non porous surfaces so i bought 2 from ebay for a few bucks and they work well! the lines are about 2mm wide so the designs will need to be chosen with that in mind :-) http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sakura-BLACK-GLAZE-GEL-PENS-Pen-2-Pack-Wendy-Vecchi-/370772704941?pt=US_Die_Cutting_Machines_Dies&hash=item5653c67ead
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This is just to remind myself! :-)
hey Nerdfest!.......don't forget to start working on that thing!.... you know, that thing you did last year and said you'd do again?.....
....surely you remember? although you've got a proper name for it now right? :-)
.... The Nerdcademy Award!
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Yeah dont forget NF......
Look forward to finding out about it ^
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Good looking troops with the Mad robot heads on! camo is working out nice as well.
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YUP! I just hope you leave it broadly open so I can do some Malifaux painting......although I do have some Ork Goff Rockers that need to be done up as well. So ya...... please please please ol Dama ol buddy, I want to enter!
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Thought i'd mix up my painting with more drop down terrain!  I forgot I had a gothic power generator and found it again when I was rummaging around the Nerd lair! so I figured I'd have a crack at it, I know it's nothing amazing yet I wanted to try and give it a subtle glow from the rods without going ott with osl, tomorrow I'll do the main body of it and also the finishing touches on my Tank and squad

also got this stuff up for grabs on Swap shop if anyone's interested?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/513498.page#5379896
catch you later tonight!
Damo
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Post by: Azazelx
That tank is looking great! The guard are also great, but the tank is more stand-out great, if you know what I mean. I know I promised to get some pics of my IG up a few weeks ago, but we've had about 3 weeks of relentless 30-35 degree days (the last 2 have been 37+ so I've not been good at doing anything like painting or taking photos as opposed to sitting on my arse in the aircon and playing WoW instead when I get back from non-aircon work..
With your Stormtroopers, consider painting their weapons in the same sand tones that your hard armour has been in to reflect their elite status - even just on a test model to try out. Reflecting the same way that real-world modern operators often camo their own weapons or use camo'ed weapons. Or what you did with the nerf weapons.
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Nice understated glow on the power generator.
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It's a nice soft glow. I like it the way it is, but you probably have a way in mind to make it even better.
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nice powergenerator! that´s some kit i haven´t seen yet...
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Hey Scipio? :-) thanks for the input and vote of confidence, those maxmini legs are very nice and I am going to grab some to use for the legs on my counts as Straken! I was going to make an 'Iron groin Straken' in a kilt...... but thought even though it'd certainly set him apart as a tough as nails leader it may not look the best!.... especially his bionic groin!
I should have the tank finished tomorrow hopefully, i've been working on Lt Gruber in the hatch :-) even down here in 'cold' Tassie we've had the last 6-7 days above 31 degrees too! we even got to 34.7 last week! so I've been enjoying the aircon in the Nerd Lair painting IG! they've really grown on me!
I like the idea of the guns on the storm troopers being camo, i've bought some special ones for them from MadRobot miniatures but I want them to still be seen so i may try a matt finish or part camo? they're a little while off as I need to find some catachan arms for all of them I can file down to not be as bicep-y and then greenstuff rolled up shirt sleeves etc.
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I want one of those...
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Hey Nerdfest.  What can I say, the tank looks very neat. I like how your IG army is turning out kind of bright and comparatively colourful. Always a plus on the table! Chipping on the tank looks very convincing.
That gothic generator is a really pretty thing. I may have to check that out.
But it's that stained glass window that leaves me speechless. It looks just amazing. So you got the design printed out on a clear acrylic sheet, added colour and then drew on the stonger black lines by using these Gel Pens?
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I'm with Gits here, I want one of those generators, very nice! And also a massive thank you for the info on the window, that did not go un-noticed! I will have to give that a go when I get round to my city building I've been putting off for the last 3 years or so.
Not to sound impatient, but I really feel you need to be chained back to your painting desk for the benefit of us here at dakka. I'm still awaiting your sentinels to inspire me!
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Sigur wrote:Hey Nerdfest.  What can I say, the tank looks very neat. I like how your IG army is turning out kind of bright and comparatively colourful. Always a plus on the table! Chipping on the tank looks very convincing.
That gothic generator is a really pretty thing. I may have to check that out.
But it's that stained glass window that leaves me speechless. It looks just amazing. So you got the design printed out on a clear acrylic sheet, added colour and then drew on the stonger black lines by using these Gel Pens?
Hi Siggy! yep, that's pretty much it with the windows, although you just find your designs and size them to fit your model, then I actually had mine printed in colour straight onto clear acetate but if you can't do that you can print them out on good paper at high quality and then go to a photocopy shop and get them to copy it onto the clear sheet, then you just go over the lines with the gel pen, cut and attach, I have more to do to make them look cool and i hope it works
The terrain piece is a Gothic power generator from Secret Weapon miniatures  go get one now! I was going to drill it out and add lights under it to light up the rods but I chickened out
well, i'm off to paint now so I'll update later tonight!
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OR if you have access to a color laser printer, and if you can find some laser transparency sheets. Remember those ancient overhead projectors?
Just DON'T use those made for inkjets in lasers, they'll melt to the fuser, stink, and ruin it, maybe even start a fire.
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I love that beard.
The infnatry is looking really good as well
However I have to admit that the tank is a little too red for my taste.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
looking super cool... specially the lenses of those masks!
only very minor thing to think about... the cord on the tanks commanders shoulder...i would have made that red rather than yellow/gold...just a thought...
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Infantry are looking great. Love those lense. Any plans for any squad/regiment markings on the shoulders or anything?
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Damn those look good dude!
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Very nice work, Damo. I love the tank, and excellent work on the goggles and visors, especially Gruber's.
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Thanks for the look guys! :-) to answer a few queries, I shall be adding the '9' on all their shoulders to represent the Evandalian 9th Daggermouths and I have indeed decided to re paint the braid red instead of yellow on Lt Gruber in his little tank! speaking of his little tank, it does appear a bit redder in the pics than in actuality as it's the same red/brown as the pattern on the fatigues :-) I do need to keep practicing my photo skills as it's hard to get a good clear shot that's not too washed out or too dark and still show the true colours and painting! I'll get there one day but for now lets hope the images will suffice eh!
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I think they look fantastic Damo! Damn fine job Sir!
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I've been trying to remember a good 'allo 'allo quote since you said his name was Lt Gruber. Let's hope his little tank doesn't get damaged.
Looking really good. and the lenses are awesome.
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I love the fade on that tank... probably the most "attractive" guard tank I've ever seen. Your faces are phenominal Damo. Holy smokes... they're just amazing.
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Yeah, I also liked the beard stubble effect. I must know how you did that.
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Good job on all that. I especially like the camo on the infantry and the face and visor on the tank commander.
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The glasses/lens!  Immense!!!  xxx
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Damo, shouldn't that be Joe Pineapples?
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It's Bubbles!
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Well DrH wins points for the Gruber reference!  now lets see how well he can fire his little cannon at the enemy! and thanks everyone for the comments again, it's always nice to hear good things and even better when it matches your own thoughts on your models  I used a quick main style and worked the lenses to be a focal point and it appears I did a good job! phew! I will also get around to doing another face tutorial very soon, maybe next week? the stubble is easy, you just add a small dot of black to your flesh colour and paint the hair line then add a little bit more so it's only slightly darker and paint the lower parts of the jaw where our beards grow faster!  I also like to mix a little red gore again into the flesh colour and add a bottom lip and cheek highlights if I can be bothered
Gits, thank you! I am glad you like the tank I am quite proud of it if i'm honest  trying to blend my two styles I wasn't sure if it would work but it seems to not look silly which is a good thing, I also just bought 2 more Russes and a devil dog from swap shop  although the russes don't have side sponsons  so i will have to throw the 'ol fishing line out and ask anyone if they have or know someone who is willing to sell or trade some? I don't mind what they are be it bolter, las, plas etc. but i'll need the actual side housings as well as the weapons! even if anyone knows a bits site i can raid?
now, next week I'm painting for a day or 2 and I'm not sure what to focus on? I will be washing all my panels and rivets on my 3 chimera's but I'm not sure if I should do more on the stained glass windows? the generator? or another Vet squad?
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I have some sponsons lying around, and I owe you a shipment anyways Damo
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Oh Dave you are a bloody legend mate! that's fantastic! :-) thank you so much! I also may have some more Dave bits around the 'ol bits drawer too! do you have my address?
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probably, but hell if I can find it. PM me.
How many pairs of sponsons do you want?
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Dudes and dudettes! I had a productive day albeit not a huge painting day  I grabbed my Chimera's (hey! mind outta the gutter!) and proceeded to add a wash at all the joins and over each rivet on the vehicle  it made a real difference for such a simple task and spurred me on to finish the ink wash on 2 out of 3 of them!
here's a comparison with the un inked one.
Can you say Marbo?.......
......MARBO!
Yes, I scored a pair of arms from a friend and thought i'd try and work out if they could be used for my Marbo conversion! turns out they certainly could!
I had a mortar loading arm and I cut the mortar from the hand, then cut across the wrist and shortened the arm so it looked 'right' and liquid GS'd the join, then I cut the bowie knife from another one down and thinned the blade as i don't like the small swords they have! I then I drilled the hand and added a brass rod as a handle and glued the blade downward to have a more 'knife fighting' feel to him.
I had the legs i had already converted to look more stealthy  but placing the torso onto them it looked wrong as the legs looked too wide for the body and it just looked placed on with nothing to 'connect' the two parts, so I grabbed a Cadian torso and with a box cutter I shaved the part that had the belt on it off and glued it to the legs.
then I got the 'ol liquid GS and filled out the join
after it dried I glued the torso on, using of course the muscle bound 'Rambo' style one  and then the arms and filled the joins again to smooth out the body a bit then it was the crowning glory! a head from Mad Robot Miniatures 'personality' set! I used the Sly Stallone one as I really didn't have a choice did I
And here he is with primer and a wash to see how he looks!
I shall be painting him tomorrow as I just won't be able to help myself and I promise I will get better clear photo's in my booth instead of rushed ones eh!
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Can't have Marbo without the Stallone head.
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Conversion is awesome man. Hair needs to be longer for a proper John Rambo.
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That Marbo surely wont blow himself up ever!
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Thanks guys, yep, you just can't have a Marbo without a Stallone head if there's one available! it should be against the law!! I know Ram...Marb.... should have longer hair but I'm not going to 'split hairs' about it ;-)
I can't wait to paint him tomorrow! I'm actually excited about going to bed so i can wake up and do this!! Automatically Appended Next Post: No he won't blow himself up, because he's cool and cool guys always walk away from explosions!
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Good Job, Marbo looks the part. Good building skills NF.
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Rivets ALWAYS look better shaded! Very effective Nerd!
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nerdfest09 wrote:Thanks guys, yep, you just can't have a Marbo without a Stallone head if there's one available! it should be against the law!! I know Ram...Marb.... should have longer hair but I'm not going to 'split hairs' about it ;-)
I can't wait to paint him tomorrow! I'm actually excited about going to bed so i can wake up and do this!!
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No he won't blow himself up, because he's cool and cool guys always walk away from explosions!
 Too true
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Post by: SelvaggioSaky
All Cool guys but Django, He's over the coolness.
Nerdfest, I love every bit of painting You're doing, no exeption.
Keep them coming (Marbo first of course)
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Post by: GiraffeX
Marbo is looking really nice, cant wait to see him all painted up.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Like any really great kitbash, you'd never know that's not a "real" model. Props to the nerd-man.
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Damo...I think he needs an ammo belt strapped somewhere..no?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
the only possible alternative head choice instead a sly look alike would be a chuck norris head... tho i doubt it that someone actually made this a reality... for fear of the thrid plastic fist coming out of the pastic beard...
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It should be a simple conversion, really
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hurhur... what a mighty pun...
chuck simpleton, eh?
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Marbo got some paint!  if i'm totally honest i'm not overly happy with his paint job  but I like the look and feel of the conversion, now I need comments to buoy me up or tear me down  it was the first time i had to paint a more expanse of flesh with his body, and I made his pallor kind of ruddy so he looks a bit sunburned or flushed from exertion? I also finished inking the last chimera, those bloody vehicles have so many rivets it's like heaven!
anyway here's my Marbo conversion, no custom name yet but i'm thinking


So, next session looks like it'll be chimera work for me! I want to finish them or i'll likely neglect them as they're to a point they can be used!
anyway love to know what you think.
Damo
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Oh yes nerd! this is indeed how rambo...i mean marbo...should be done!
I absolutely am in awe of the freehand aquila, that was a touch of genius that helps to break up the flesh nicely! The camo trousers also look perfect and serve as a nice way to link him to the other guys.
bearing in mind i think this model is beautiful, i could make a couple of very very minor ultra picky critiques:
Firstly on the picture with the aquila, his sideburn seems to be a little wobbly! (...i did say these were minor things! but i thought id mention it because if you were so inclined it would take a fairly small amount of time to touch up.)
Secondly HIS left eye seems slightly too large, now i shouldn't comment on eyes because i know they are the single most frustrating thing in the world, but if you could squeeze a tiny bit more white on nose side of his eye i think it would make a real difference, as well as bringing up his eyelid ever so slightly (if that makes sense)
Finally (and i am seriously being overly critical now!) the longer cut on his back, where it joins his shoulder could do with being ever so slightly thinner maybe? also to make it look more raised and sore you could mix a bit more red into your flesh tone and just paint it around the edge of the cuts.
You chimeras however are perfect! and they arn't even done yet!
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Too cool for school Damo!
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the critique J, good comments and I agree with you :-) I am not 100% happy with the paint job and am seriously considering stripping him and re doing him he just seems a little below what I know i can do and I'm worried if I try and fix him I'll overdo it and stuff him completely! yet I am reluctant to throw him into that bath of simple green! also the pics aren't as good as they should be either :-(
Oh man, I'm negative today aren't I! sheesh! perhaps I should touch some bits up and try taking pics with my phone?
and thanks for the props on the Chimera's! ;-) they should be pretty sweet when I do them too! then i have 5 more tanks on the way!
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He's a little pale for being shirtless in the wild. Maybe if you wash his skin overall with a flesh wash? That should give him a tanned look? I think his skin is just a little too complimentary to the fatigue colors.
You've got plenty of pink color in his skin, an overall wash will be translucent, and won't hide your beautiful flesh painting below, it'll just tint it all slightly.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i really like your marbo! almost looks like sly from rambo III... that much bare skin is always what keeps me from tackling my catachans... and believe me before i paint so many of these... i need to get better with skin ... way better... if i could do skin the way you did... i would have my work cut out for me already
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Obmar's looking good there, if a little bewildered.
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You HAVE to compromise when doing a horde of Catachans..there is no way to do them all completely and stay sane.
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well... i think i need to look into dipping for skin then... this might work, eh?
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AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDD-WWWWWWEEEEEEEEEE-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!
Seriously though, nice work dude!
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That Stallone looks the business mate.Sticking the belt on top of the trousers made a real good job.
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After much gnashing of teeth I think I will strip and re do him! he's (as with all Catachan's) hard to paint due to the skin being such a major focal point and to have it look good like Dave said, you tend to paint it in a complimentary colour to go with the fatigues but sometimes it needs to be darker/lighter etc. I imagine my force being (masters of any theater of war) mainly based in arid environment so they could be quite dark and sunburnt, I think i was just a bit too excited to paint him and my blends should have been much smoother, I'll do some research on painting skin and have another crack at him next week.
Does anyone know how simple green goes on resin? i'd hate to ruin his face and legs!is it safe to do?
also can anyone give me some advice on taking photo's? I have a light box-check, I have a digital SLR-check (a Canon EOS400D) but I seem to either get a really bright pic that shows things to much and looks washed out and shiny or a pic that looks more true to the colours but is too dark and not sharp enough? I'm not up with the jargon of F-stops and stuff but I'm a fast learner ;-)
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
try to wade through this thread nerdy... it might provide you with the needed help...
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Hmmm thanks Vik, imaginary thread is imaginary! :-)
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I've just been painting skin on cultists and that was daunting and that was only arms and faces. I think its what happens painting everything in power armour for so long.
Practice is the key and having the right skin tones which I've realised I'm missing one of after looking round the net thats used a lot.
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OK, now that I'm finally not looking at that through my phone... it's really good! Really looks Stalloneesque.
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I have a very good guide to painting realistic skin tones- downloaded it from the GW website before those wanky new paints came out (I say that but the white they have now is pretty good, the textured paints though? Pish).
The key to good looking skin isn't Garnier but grey paint. I usually start with 3:1 of tanned: codex grey, wash with 2:1 scorched brown: chaos black and then highlight the base mix up with bleached bone. You can vary the level of tanning by altering the base coat.
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DOn't strip him..please
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Agreed
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Who's "doona"?
Clever work on those canopies.
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lol  doona! very funny Gits, or whatever you call it? duvet, quilt?
and thanks for the props on the canopies!
Call me ignorant, but what's the pic of that dude? is he 'Joe Pineapple'? i'm not familiar with him
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AH! Quilt or afghan I think we'd call it. I thought you had your own, private nerdnurse for a minute there.
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He is Joe Pineapples, an ABC Warrior from the British comic 2000AD.
Very very awesome strip, at least the older stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_Warriors
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Ah, i thought I recognised the design! I used to have a bunch of the old 2000AD comics my nan bought me when I was a boy! I just didn't remember the connotation to Joe pineapple! lets hope his namesake does some good on the tabletop!
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That's a brilliant idea for the canopies, I've filed it away for future use.
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Nerdfest how did you get those sheets?They look class.
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Hey Shin, I used the same method as my stained glass windows, I saved some computer screen designs from terragenesis.com and sized and had them printed on clear acetate sheet then traced around the canopy and used the hole as a template to get a decent looking heads up kind of look for them  to stick them in I dabbed some plastic glue on some card and ran the edge lightly through it then pushed it into the corner being careful not to get any on the main parts so it didn't fog up! lets hope it works still when I do the pilots and assemble them later
Damo
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^ Oh Vik!
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 ... well i feel like an old man loosing his grip when posting a promised link is forgotten^^
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Gonna try and make you one of those old fashioned ear horns out of Lego!
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LOL... that will probably give me the needed edge  ... and in public transport it will secure me seats
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nerdfest09 wrote:Marbo got some paint!  if i'm totally honest i'm not overly happy with his paint job  but I like the look and feel of the conversion, now I need comments to buoy me up or tear me down  it was the first time i had to paint a more expanse of flesh with his body, and I made his pallor kind of ruddy so he looks a bit sunburned or flushed from exertion? I also finished inking the last chimera, those bloody vehicles have so many rivets it's like heaven!
anyway here's my Marbo conversion, no custom name yet but i'm thinking
Damo
I don't think he needs stripping. I think a little more work on the figure as is will get you where you want to be. it'd be shame to waste the work you've already done on him.
If I have to be mega-critical, I'd say your flesh blending is a little rough in places. But not gakky rough - it just looks a bit unfinished to my eye. A little bit of blending on the extreme shades, and in places like where the skin covers the radius of the lower left forearm need to be brought up a little more. Bear in mind that the photos also blow up the figure from about an inch tall to 9 inches tall (without the base) so all the tiny flaws are exaggerated. Fix the eyes. they look quite close together, so just widening them a little will sort that out. I'd really suggest trying to sculpt some 80's Stallone Rambo hair onto him. Maybe try on a test model first.
Finally, something that probably won't show up in photos - matt varnish the whole thing when you're finished, but then go over his rippling, sexy pecs, biceps, triceps.. and so forth with a mixture of satin and gloss varnish for that completely not homo-erotic sexy oiled-man look that Sly was sporting during the era. Using gloss will be too shiny, and satin probably not quite shiny enough. It'll also contrast nicely with his matt-varnished fatigue pants.
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Just call him Sly.
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I think he needs a nipple adjustment... shouldn't they be in the same place on both pecs?
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Cheers guys :-) but I have him swimming as we speak! in simple green, I know I can do a better job (lets hope i actually do it though) I intend on listening to all the comments and advice and trying to make him pretty damn good! I especially like the oiled up rippling no homo body idea! if i can get skin tone down it'll work well! the eyes are going to be tricky as they are literally very close together due to the sculpt but I shall endeavor to make it look good! I'll try and get some paint on him this week but i want to start my Detta's and my 3 NEW TANKS! Boo Yaaa! thanks Ashrog! i've already started fixing up the Devil Dog, added a driver and some new hoses to the rear, pics tomorow! Automatically Appended Next Post: Gitsplitta wrote:I think he needs a nipple adjustment... shouldn't they be in the same place on both pecs?
Oh picky picky gits!  it shall be amended soon my friend!.....soon!........SooooooooOOOOOOOn
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Post by: KingCracker
I dunno, theres something charming about a super human killing machine that has lopsided nips
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Post by: Gitsplitta
OH, and you need to paint the face on his watch next time. I want to be able to tell what time it is on it... in two different time zones... and the date. Not the cheezy date as in just the day, but the day, month and year.
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Post by: GiraffeX
lol Git's I noticed that when I first saw the finished pic but thought I'd see if anyone else mentioned it before I made a comment for the re-paint.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Gitsplitta wrote:OH, and you need to paint the face on his watch next time. I want to be able to tell what time it is on it... in two different time zones... and the date. Not the cheezy date as in just the day, but the day, month and year.
O.k fine!  if that's what you want I'll try it!  but i didn't paint it as i kinda thought it would be one of those leather watch covers that some hunters wear so you don't ruin your watch or get reflections ruining your sneaky sneaky attacks!
I have been fiddling around today with some Nerd stuff but nothing really exciting, I should have some shots tomorrow of what i'm doing, I am currently painting the pilots in the Detta's and with the canopy over them it's not as clear as i'd like, so I'll still paint the guys and take some pics so you know when the tops are on that they're painted o.k!  I also gave the interiors of them a bit of a fast paint, looks good but not crazy detailed.
And I primed and white primed my Lord Commissar! so he's also on the workbench  as well as the tanks, i've started the Devil Dog by beginning to paint some hazard stripes on the cover section over the drums. I also primed marbo again and tried to fix one of the sentinels i got, it didn't really work as i couldn't strip the paint of it (dunno what they used  ) so i have one sentinel on sprue and I'll buy another one so i have 2 and instructions to build them
Oh and his NIPPLES ARE FINE!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
*chuckle*
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Damn fine
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Post by: nerdfest09
well then, where do i start today?  how about with a package from Dsteingass!  I thought I was scoring myself some sponsons (and I did) but he was kind enough to include for me a whole bunch of other goodies for me!  some wargames factory soldiers, a bag full of IG arms which is truly going to be so useful! some plasticard and pvc foam?! I am gonna be a Nerd tornado! lol!
and as excited as I was I stopped dancing around and got to work adding the sponsons to my tanks  here's where i got too with them, I only need to get some really thin plastic rod to make some welds where I damaged a couple of bits
Oh I can't forget what made me dance like a loon now can i! I am now the proud owner of a genuine Dave special Nuka Cola machine!  and it turned out quite the Lord Commissar's favorite beverage, he had to stop the Guardsmen pilfering it all!
I also got stuck into the tanks I bought from here on dakka, the Devil Dog more precisely, I had to pry off the barrel cover for painting which damaged the links on the rear so I made some now hoses to fit into it and then gave it some hazard stripe treatment as that stuff is VOLATILE!

I did remove the hatch too, as I hear the drivers of these kind of assault vehicles are pretty reckless? and i wanted to add a suitable head poking out the top roaring head first into battle!
Now, for the main part of my day, it was both fun and disappointing as i was painting the pilots for my Vendetta's  I was planning to give them a basic paint due to the canopy's being semi opaque now, but, I ended up really enjoying the journey and doing a job i really like  so now I need to find myself some more canopies on ebay as i want to be able to see these top guns in the seats! especially as JASON STATHAM is piloting one  but first the hull interior, just a fast one.
and now the pilots!

and I tried to be tricky here and paint a representation of the Australian flag on their uniforms!
and I took these the other morning at work, I was retrieving a guests vehicle and the sun was coming up hitting the mist over the lake and was too beautiful not to photograph!  I know it's off topic for a hobby forum but i hope they give you guys the same feeling of calm and happiness they gave me (even though i was working! )


catch you soon my friends!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Wow. The pilots are snazzy and the view ain't half bad either. Also, I'm going to steal your hazard stripe board edge for my rob, I think.
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Post by: IPS
I like those cockpits and crew very much.
So much character you put in there
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Pilots are looking great and I love the extra detail you put into the cockpit. The flag patches are a great touch.
Thanks for sharing those pics. Lovely.
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Post by: KingCracker
The pilots are ace....heh. You did a great job with that gradient on the screens.
And glad to see you stop and enjoy the world sometimes. I do the same as well. As soon as theres a nice warm morning, Im going to eat breakfast on my porch and just enjoy the outside.........as soon as Michigan realizes its frigging spring and not winter that is
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Post by: dsteingass
Absolutely beautiful Damo! I'm so sick of winter here I medically need some decent weather soon. Glad your box came unmolested by customs. I think the key is to NEVER, EVER mark them as gifts.
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Post by: Dr H
Pilots and cockpits look really good.
Nice to see someone is getting the sun, it's all snow here...in spring! I think England is gearing up to completely ignore summer and just go straight to autumn after it finally gets round to raining through spring.
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Post by: nerdfest09
lol, ah the fickle weather around the globe eh! :-) but yes sometimes it is nice to see what's around us that we miss with our busy lives! now when you combine that with our hobbies! wow it's good sitting outside on a nice day maybe with an ice cold pear cider over ice clipping off models from sprues and reading some old decent white dwarf mags!
the Detta's are coming along nicely now I've painted the tricky parts, i'll mask them off when i prime and paint if i've read the instructions correctly! the pilots I am pleased with, I wanted to give my IG as much personality as I can throughout with bare heads and named guys! so I can really see these guys destroying tanks and performing daring manoeuvres with Jason Statham at the stick! although I think he should be re named to suit the grim dark? perhaps he should be JASON STRAFE-EM?
Dave, the box arrived pretty quick too! I wasn't expecting it until next week! I really am grateful for the parts and extra's! you didn't have to give me so much mate! I promise it'll go to good projects :-)
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Post by: Zambro
I'm a little late to the party, but i like what your doing with the IG stuff.
I'll be hanging around to see where you go with them
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Post by: SagesStone
Reference pictures, can't escape the hobby related goodness.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Very nice, and those heads look the business.
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Post by: Ilgoth
Oh, berets for IG! Those pilots look cool and you did great job with those flags!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Love the way those are turning out Damo. Guys in the cockpits look fantastic!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
yon vet sarge looks ace... grim and mean^^
tho i have to say... your valks remind me a bit of strawberry cake
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Post by: SelvaggioSaky
Awesome as usual, the sarge is Ace!
Love the WIP Vendettas too, can't wait to see them done and flying around.
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Post by: GiraffeX
The dettas are coming along nicely, will you be doing battle damage/weathering on them?
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Post by: nerdfest09
GiraffeX wrote:The dettas are coming along nicely, will you be doing battle damage/weathering on them?
I might be doing very minor weathering on them but not much, I imagine they are maintained better than the tanks as they either return from the field of battle or they get blown from the sky, where the tanks are the brawlers the Detta's are the kickboxers
I want to finish the Chimera's first and i'm just about to go and start on them again right........now
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Post by: dsteingass
GREAT Valks Damo!
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Post by: danesk
Dude, you're a real inspiration! It's impressive to see how you have developed your painting and techniques since the first page,
If you keep this up I will build a temple in your honour good sir!
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Post by: mad robot
Wow, Damo! Great use of the heads,mate. Jason Strafe'em? Awesome!
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Post by: nerdfest09
Thanks dudes!  a temple of Nerdfest! now that sounds like a terrain project for sure  I'm glad everyone likes the progress on the Guard, the Detta's are going to look awesome I think, the models are really beautiful and i enjoyed the assembly for once! I did plan on spraying the underside of them in a sky blue but I don't think i'll bother with that now
the 3 Chimera's are nearly finished too! I just ran out of time by about 2 hours  I was going to take pics but then i thought it would be better to just show you finished examples rather than nearly done ones.
Steve, your heads were the sole driving force behind my army, without them I honestly would not have even started IG  but they give so much personality to them and are a lot of fun, not to mention the quality of each and every single head you sell!  I have a headless driver of my Devil Dog waiting for this weekends release!  I shall also take some better shots of everything soon and then send some through to Mad Robot as well as chuck them up here, that last one with the beret head was rubbish!
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Post by: leohart
The cockpit models look plenty fine. I didn't realized you switched to Imperial Guard. :-) I agree, berets on IG makes them all look like Green Beret from the Commandos franchise.
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Post by: Dr H
Ahh  , I think you should do the undersides in blue or grey or blue/grey. But they look great as is. Are you not going to carry the camo' pattern over the cockpit frame either? I do realise that would be really difficult with the colour fade.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Nope, i think I'll leave the canopy frame the base colour, I like how it stands out and acts as kind of a focal point for the flyers :-) I did think about making them metallic originally but changed my mind after I'd already camo'd the planes lol!
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Fair enough. I see your point. Base colour works.
Good job. Look forward to more.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Wow! Love the Marbo conversion and those pilots, they look ace! Great painting on the monitors and screens as well
I'm gonna have to check the whole blog now
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Post by: nerdfest09
Ta Daaaaaa!  3 Chimera transports finished for my MechVets! I'm pretty pleased with the result on them, I like the style which to my eyes is a cross between weathered and cartoonish, but in a good way, the bold highlighting on some additions juxtaposed with the muted chipped dusty body of each vehicle
they match my Russ nicely too which just makes me want to paint more tanks  I'm really enjoying them! so, next I need to force myself to paint some more Vets squads, I have about 60 Guardsmen to paint up!
love to see what you think of these guys!
and I started base coating my other tanks that I want to paint!  do you think I have enough? seriously? what else can I obtain to use efficiently? I have now 2 Punishers, Devil Dog, LRBT, Executioner! that's a lot of painting! not to mention my Vendetta's and troops!
well, I hope you like my progress today! I'm gonna go to bed for a rest now, I'm not feeling 100% and i start work again tomorrow
catch you soon!
Damo
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