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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 16:12:30


Post by: dsteingass


Congrats Weety! And Happy Birthday! Now you too can see errors on screen that you couldn't see with the mini 4" in front of your face


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 17:16:59


Post by: weetyskemian44


Hooray for extreme self criticism! I will try not to let it get me down, after all there is a limit to what can be done with human hands and eyes. I think the tiny mistakes look more interesting than pixels anyway.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 18:09:27


Post by: Gitsplitta


Extra pixels are great weety, but you may learn to hate them. They allow more mistakes to show through. I have anyway...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 18:27:30


Post by: dsteingass


me too..Usually as soon as I post the pic to Dakka! Then it is usually a race to fix it and shoot another pic before Vik points out my flaws


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 19:42:54


Post by: weetyskemian44


Its cool to see your vending machines are for sale now dstein, gona get one come xmass.

Vic is merciless when it comes to pointing out stuff isn't he!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 20:23:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that´s the german heritage i am afraid... our folks never were big in that department

but you my friend are totally out of harms way atm.... the new cam suits you like a glove... finally we get some worthy pics of your art!!!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 20:35:32


Post by: dsteingass


lol well, we DO pay more attention to crits than praise, it's all good!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 21:11:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


as a matter of fact... i really do like giving criticism... and even more so... it got me aquainted with so many peeps here... as a i think a true critic ( the constructive sort) has to do one thing beforehand ... really look at the thing... this is attention you give to peeps... and peeps always like that...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/20 22:07:43


Post by: monkeytroll


Grats on the new camera

'Max' Max is great, big pics is niiice


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 16:38:26


Post by: weetyskemian44


Don't worry von dom its good to have a really honest opinion sometimes! And those mold lines need to be pointed out sometimes.

Thanks monkey. Big pics shall be the rule.

Here is another pale and sinister brood brother / delaque ready to die for the family. The delaques need basing - I will try and seek out some urban bases for them.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 16:55:56


Post by: Gitsplitta


Oh.... I like that one! Great pose & an excellent paint job.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 17:10:15


Post by: dsteingass


 Viktor von Domm wrote:

....by the way dave... i know you don´t want to hear that probably after painting... but that steamborg while awesomly painted has a horribly moldline gauging my eyes out


...sometimes...


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Love the stormcoat Weety! I Want to paint my Delaques, but I agonize over picking one scheme.

..And...uhh..your barrel could use a touchup with a drill bit though.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:21:30


Post by: weetyskemian44


My barrel... Why does it need a bigger hole do you think?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:24:24


Post by: weetyskemian44


definitely drilled it:

...

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:24:41


Post by: dsteingass


It looks squished or something

....>Can I LOL now?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:25:19


Post by: weetyskemian44


Wow thats so small its messing with my melon man.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:25:35


Post by: dsteingass


Ahh it was just shadow, my bad.
I didn't mean to falsely accuse you of Heresy Weets!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:37:01


Post by: weetyskemian44


We are in the business of splitting hairs. If it wasn't for macro photography I would be daubing the paint on with a blunt twig. But its part of what I love about miniatures, arguing over details which are invisible to the human eye.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 18:46:33


Post by: monkeytroll


Cool, love the jacket, that's a great green for outdoor wear

If we're going to be picky looks like the shading above the straps on his right temple looks a bit thick (size-wise that is, I'd never acuse you of not thinning your paints proper like )


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 19:03:51


Post by: weetyskemian44


And if we are going for uber crit then I just noticed that he has a lumpy bottom lip and a massive pimple on his nose. But we can put that down to random mutations!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 19:18:56


Post by: Miss Dee


And something on his coat


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 19:20:35


Post by: weetyskemian44


Filthy trench coat. Maybe he is a flasher!!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 19:20:47


Post by: monkeytroll


It's not his fault he dribbles his food down his clothes, he has got that bumpy lip after all.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 20:03:45


Post by: dsteingass


Nekkid, hairless Delaque flasher?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 20:34:32


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


 weetyskemian44 wrote:
Filthy trench coat. Maybe he is a flasher!!


only on the weekends... but shuuuuuush


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 21:29:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


 Miss Dee wrote:
And something on his coat

got ninjaed by miss dee.... oh my...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/21 22:46:52


Post by: Rogue Wolves


this lattest one is really cool weety! nice lenses too, what colors did you use for that?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/22 04:28:25


Post by: weetyskemian44



The lenses are just a vallejo blue wash over a carefully graded black and white background. The main trench coat colours are grey with just a dash of purple in it and an aqua green called "dusty green" from anita's all purpose acrylic line (not great paints but I really love the colour) in it. Most of the paints I used on him are vallejo wash paints. Best paints in the world and from what remember marginally cheaper than citadel. I should do another step by step photo essay sometime.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 08:48:49


Post by: weetyskemian44


This is the mercenary outfit's token beastman. Originally named Gorden Freebeast, but none of his comrades bother to remember his name. They variously call him "goat-face", "daggy-ass" or "stink-horn" but Gorden does not take to much offense as he knows the other mercs are just as bestial as himself and they are all a bunch of filthy animals so he fits right in.

Gorden has long been a victim of prejudice, he and his people where hounded into ghettos on their home-world for being scary looking and (supposedly) lusting after normal women. A mercenary life is Gorden's ticket out of the beastman ghetto and he is always looking to get ahead. One day he hopes to return home and settle some scores

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 08:52:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


good looking beastman... ??? no seriously good looking... and even based...wonderful...and the lil piece of fluff was a fun to read!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 09:07:01


Post by: Miss Dee


There is something to tell the kidds


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 10:15:17


Post by: weetyskemian44


Lol I should have called him billy.


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Oh and thankyou von dom that is a very kind comment. He is quite well painted isn't he. I need reassuring sometimes.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 10:50:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


be self confident! you are talented way beyond manny peeps skills! but we are here to set your head right


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 12:18:07


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah Weets, he looks great! Low self-esteem is a turn-off


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 15:49:55


Post by: JB


Gorden is a much better name for him than Billy. I can't root for Billy but I find myself hoping that Gorden achieves his life's ambition, even if that means just settling old scores on his homeworld. I imagine that he even reads and writes better than his merc partners.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 18:03:12


Post by: weetyskemian44


Definitely JB - he has to continually prove that he is better than the rest of the mercs because he suffers from low self esteem too.

Thanks y'all for the support! I will keep on trucking.

Today I purchased two more mercs - they are Sarge Rockhard and Catachan Luke from the mercenaries section: http://www.solegends.com/citrt/rt7mercenaries.htm
They won't be arriving for a time as I had to pay by e-check. I also got some metal decking bases for the delaques and hybrids.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 19:26:08


Post by: monkeytroll


Good job with Gorden, but shouldn't he have a crowbar?

Love the muted colours, excellent choices as usual. Ny only crit is that the nose-ring doesn't seem to stand out from the face, but that may be different in RL.

Liking the little bits of fluff you're giving us about the minis, keep that coming. Patiently awaiting the next guys, but don't you already have Sarge?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 19:48:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Good job with Gorden, but shouldn't he have a crowbar?




Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 19:50:42


Post by: monkeytroll


ALF my man. Long time no see, how you hanging?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 19:53:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i guess he would say something like...no problemo?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/25 20:06:21


Post by: Valhalla130


Did that beastman come that way or did you add the head? That looks excellent!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 06:46:46


Post by: weetyskemian44


Monkeytroll you get a cookie for getting my gorden freebeast reference! A very special invisible cookie.
As to sarge I don't have that one but he does look a bit like Plunderino Pete who I have two of.

Valhalla he comes that way. He is one of the very few imperial guard beastmen ever made. I think there were just 3 - this one, one with two clubs and the one with a plasma pistol and chainsword

http://www.solegends.com/citrt/rt501imperials1.htm that's him on the top far left

and the other two
http://www.solegends.com/citcat89/c894010impguard.htm


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 11:44:16


Post by: Scarper


That beastman is beautiful, Weety! The different tones of leather and the fur are particularly well done. I don't know if I've mentioned it enough, but I'm really enjoying the little snippets of fluff lately - they're so creative, and really add to the personality of your minis. Apologies for the quiet spell - I'm still loving your work, even if work means I don't have time to comment!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 18:07:02


Post by: monkeytroll


I'm sure the others all got the reference, it's just I was the only one feeling desperate for cookies And invisible ones are great, thanks a lot I can pile my plate full of them and no-one says a thing about being greedy.

Yeah, I realised it was Petey boy you already had just after posting that.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 18:48:36


Post by: JB


I've never played Half-Life.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 18:56:34


Post by: Viktor von Domm


dunno why... but whenever i tried to play half-life i got kind of sea sick... somehow related to the graphic back then i guess...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:03:45


Post by: monkeytroll


In Eve Online the viewpoint drifts slightly when you're in space and on occasion I would find that the rocking of my boat would match with the rocking of the screen, that was always a slightly weird feeling

TBH, I've only played bits of half-life, although I have the orange box on steam I've never actually installed it


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:05:18


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


 JB wrote:
I've never played Half-Life.



me neither... it came out at a time where everyone I knew played games on the PC... and I cannot stand playing on a PC... just hate it... too many damned buttons...



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:09:21


Post by: Viktor von Domm


too many damned buttons


evidence of incapacity


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:19:17


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


No, just wanting the times I should be relaxing to be simple... lifes complicated enough without making my down time stressfull too...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:22:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think i´ve read that somehere already


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:29:53


Post by: weetyskemian44


I played it for a while last year when a friend gave it to me but eventually the low quality graphics made me a little sick too - I love the idea of a game with no loading screens though. Hate loading screens so much. They should do that again sometime!!.

Hey scarper thanks - it was reading your fluff (after months of skipping it to get to the pictures) that got me to do some myself. I love the way you really flesh your characters out. So I thought with the mercs being such characterful minis they better have some stories to back them up - maybe I will write more..


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Hey monkeytroll - I heard the Ouse was flooding - I bet your glad you live on a boat huh?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:52:18


Post by: Yodhrin


 weetyskemian44 wrote:
I played it for a while last year when a friend gave it to me but eventually the low quality graphics made me a little sick too - I love the idea of a game with no loading screens though. Hate loading screens so much. They should do that again sometime!!.

Hey scarper thanks - it was reading your fluff (after months of skipping it to get to the pictures) that got me to do some myself. I love the way you really flesh your characters out. So I thought with the mercs being such characterful minis they better have some stories to back them up - maybe I will write more..


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Hey monkeytroll - I heard the Ouse was flooding - I bet your glad you live on a boat huh?


You should check out Black Mesa; it's a complete recreation of the original Half Life in the Half Life 2 game engine - I must admit I'm finding replaying many of my classic games a bit of a pain thanks to the graphics nowadays as well, so projects like this are always a win for me. Can't wait for the HD Baldur's Gate rerelease


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 19:57:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Can't wait for the HD Baldur's Gate rerelease
joke or an upcoming reality??? this i would love to see...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:26:27


Post by: weetyskemian44


Its official apparenty. I never played the original myself.

But anyway. Does anyone remember this from buck rogers? Personally the only thing I remember from buck rogers was that horny little robot that went "Bidi-bidi-bidi, that chicks got nice jugs buck, Bidi-bidi-bidi". But anyway this is a nice little space fighter and perfect scale for wh40k. It has a great shape. Its the Lamborghini of space fighters

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:35:45


Post by: inmygravenimage


Oh... Wowser. That is all


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:45:10


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


I've got one of them about here somewhere Weety, in thankfully better condition, but then again it isnt going to be converted/painted so nevermind lols



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:49:11


Post by: Valhalla130


I wonder why it has that extra piece on the front? they've elongated the two cones coming out of the front and attached that crosspiece. That looks strange. Keep in mind, that I loved Buck Rogers when i was a kid and was always upset I didn't get the toy space fighter. lol


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:49:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


wow... where did you get that one? and weathered already did you^^

and what did it cost you?

and yep... that lil robot... the soul of the movie^^


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:55:00


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde




Biddybiddybiddybiddy


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 20:55:29


Post by: Miss Dee


*Beedy beedy beedy Whats up Buck?*


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:01:35


Post by: weetyskemian44


It was such a filthy little robot. And it had a girlfriend robot who was a bit loose.

Von dom it was only 2 pounds 50p including postage because of the terrible condition. There are loads on ebay - just type in buck rogers and search for toys - but make sure you get the big one not the tiny little one.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:14:57


Post by: dsteingass


LOL..I remember it was a horrible show...lol..horny little robot!

Half-Life set the standard by which all FPS games have been based off of since, great story, great game series!

I am incapable of playing any FPS game with a gamepad,
I cannot get used to aiming with those damn analog sticks! But..you give me a mouse and keyboard, and I will PWN you all day long!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:15:00


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


 weetyskemian44 wrote:
It was such a filthy little robot. And it had a girlfriend robot who was a bit loose.


its amazing when you watch back your childhood favourites as an adult how much sluttyness and downright homoerotic subtexts were put into them...

take He-man for instance... Ram-Man, Fisto... even He-Man liked to oil himself up and wear leather straps... I MEAN DEAR GOD PEOPLE WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:20:43


Post by: weetyskemian44


Fisto?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:20:44


Post by: Valhalla130


Twiki.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:23:32


Post by: dsteingass


LMAO


Sorry Weety, but it had to be shared.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:25:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


speaking of the horny robot...:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110956920475&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

took your hint weety and had a look... thanks mate!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:28:08


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


"I'll give them a sticky welcome" Did I really just hear that right?



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:35:02


Post by: monkeytroll


Pretty cool! I have one in better nick, but again, that's not planned for chopping and splicing, it's to sit with all the other sci-fi Dinkys in a cupboard in my folk's garage

Corgi made a few variations on the basic model, including that version with the frontal crosswing.

At two and a half earthsquids that's certainly worth grabbing for choppy-choppy

Hah, I'd actually forgotten about the female robot.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:36:56


Post by: weetyskemian44


"when fisto offers you his hand boy, that's a big offer!!!"

Thankyou dstien - we all had a great laugh at that over here!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:41:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


innocence is once again corrupted...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:42:53


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Innocence? Whats that? I thought it was a myth?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:44:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


all the more sad^^


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:46:29


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


nah, just cynical



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 21:49:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


synonymous


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 22:03:26


Post by: weetyskemian44


I became cynical today when my boss told me I had to try and sell either toilet roll or snuggle socks (all pink) to every customer. Every, single. customer. I even had to sign a piece of paper to that effect. To be honest it was quite funny trying to sell pink snuggle socks to manly looking men. And someone asked me if I thought they had the dire rear when I asked if they would like toilet roll with that. But still.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 22:08:04


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Sorry, but I had to chuckle when I read this: "the dire rear"


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 22:14:08


Post by: weetyskemian44


Glad I could tickle your funny bone childe


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 23:05:42


Post by: Briancj


The original Corgi model, seen in that picture, has the cross-bar because, at the time, it was easier for the die-cast metal molding process.

The model had two firing missiles to either side of the cockpit, and pop-out wings.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/26 23:27:47


Post by: monkeytroll


Impressive, you still have the figures and the spare missiles


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 01:08:27


Post by: Commander Cain


Pretty sure there are one of those models in my grandmas attic!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 03:16:27


Post by: dsteingass


Weety the traveling bung-wipe saleswoman!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 06:16:58


Post by: weetyskemian44


U need Tee-pee 4 your bung-hole? That should be my new sales patter... My last shred of dignity just hit the floor guys, I neeeed a new job.

My space ship still has the pop out wings but they look bad so I popped them back in.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 06:22:37


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


*sniggers* I AM CORNHOLIO, TP? TP FOR YOUR BUNGHOLE? *sniggers*


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 12:11:47


Post by: weetyskemian44


Groan - too much alchohol last night. Fun was had though so it was worth it.

I'm gluing things together today. Hive Brat got his arms and a dueling pistol, space pirate fella got a new melta gun as his old one was broke, and this delaque had a wonky gun barrel needed re-attaching. I have a vague feeling I might paint an eldar later after I have crushed some rebel scum in Tie Fighter! Pewpewpew.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 12:14:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


what game would that be then?

and good looking conversions... you do these way too few times^^


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 13:07:54


Post by: weetyskemian44


You don't know tie fighter!? Its only the best space fighter sim ever. Its a bit short on real physics - there is no inertia or momentum so when you stop your engine you decelerate, and the lasers don't move at the speed of light like they should. But I think it makes for a more fun game.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 13:25:51


Post by: Valhalla130


TIE Fighter was awesome. I liked X-Wing though. Adjusting those shields on the fly could be frantic.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 18:37:07


Post by: monkeytroll


Both awesome games I remember basically building a second PC so I could play with mates/family on X-wing

Yeah, maybe not the most realistic space sim, but damn it made you feel you were in the films


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 18:38:26


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Awwwww Tie fighter... that makes me feel old



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 18:51:01


Post by: weetyskemian44


Well I had a productive afternoon - I made my first cornish pasty (very nice it was) and painted an eldar in the limited palette style - He isn't quite done I need to paint his base when the PVA dries and maybe add some more details. The question is, should I paint the rest of his gems blue or leave them white? Anyone have an opinion?

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 19:19:32


Post by: Miss Dee


Leave em as they are a good contrast


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 19:25:29


Post by: Gitsplitta


I feel old... when I see that figure I still think of it as my "fancy new dark reaper".


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 19:33:40


Post by: Valhalla130


I see we're going for the "pastel" look.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 19:45:41


Post by: inmygravenimage


I like the blue gems, it's a subtle and delicate contrast, which is at once at odds with the enormous gun o' doom and very, very eldar.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 19:47:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that eldar is looking sick!!!

and of course i know Tie fighter TM... it´s the game i got my first PC for... worked my ass off in the army... ^^


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 20:53:48


Post by: monkeytroll


Lovely work, and a great figure. Reapers were some of the few eldar figures I did grab back then.

And a vote for blue gems here, graven has the reasons


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 21:55:59


Post by: Valhalla130


I agree. I like the blue gems.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/27 23:22:22


Post by: Briancj


I still have my XvT and Balance of Power CDs.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/28 01:21:03


Post by: Commander Cain


Eldar is amazing! Blue gems from me, maybe it is just because you painted those few ones so well but they look great!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/28 07:02:37


Post by: weetyskemian44


Blue gets most votes so Blue it is then - It will help liven up the overall look. Give him a bit of bling as it were.

Briancj don't be embarrassed - retro gaming is cool. Balance of power sounds like an interesting way to pass the time - better than solitaire.

I have to go to work shortly and ask people if I can interest them in our fantastic deal on "cosy-soft" toilet roll. I feel like such a corporate whore. The toilet roll is neither cosy, nor soft, it should be call "cheap-scratchy". I wish I had a job looking after injured dolphins or giving out free animal balloons to children.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/28 07:05:09


Post by: monkeytroll


At a guess I'd say that handing out balloon animals to children would get you more abuse than offering customers bog roll


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/28 12:28:12


Post by: dsteingass


I like the blue gems too!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/28 13:23:02


Post by: Valhalla130


Bog roll? The English...

lol


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/28 13:31:04


Post by: dsteingass


Ahh..the kind that acts like sandpaper, but your fingers break through...horrible stuff.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/29 17:06:38


Post by: Archroy


Eldar chappy looks fantastic Weety - and I'd have to go with the majority, deffo blue gems! And since I've been playing catch up, Gordon the beastman was gorgeous (but only in a painting sense)... The skin tones were off the charts! I'm afriad your Half Life reference went over my head though :(

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
dunno why... but whenever i tried to play half-life i got kind of sea sick... somehow related to the graphic back then i guess...


You're not alone in feeling sick when playing Half Like Vik, my friend was exactly the same. Apparently it's a known phenomenomenomenomenon - the Googles bring up loads of results for motion sickness in relation to HL2, including here...

Edit: Just had a thought - Weety, have you thought of maybe flogging home-made oggies to the grockles instead of bog roll and pink socks? Much more dignified!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/29 19:58:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at archroy... yeah the motions... that makes sense...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/30 12:54:09


Post by: weetyskemian44


Based and with blue jems. As usual macro photography gives us a great view of all the tiny details (and flaws).

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/30 13:07:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well you have to look reeeeaaaally close for any errors and mind you i do^^ but what i see is a cool and subtile painted model here! the muted hues look very cool! as do the gems!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/30 16:00:25


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Man that guy looks cool, I hate eldar designs now, but this guy I like alot, nicely done


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/30 16:21:36


Post by: weetyskemian44


Cheers - I like the older eldar models they are very strange and alien looking. Very sci-fi.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/30 18:24:40


Post by: monkeytroll


Looks cool with the blue gems in place. Interesting to see the effect of a muted eldar compared to the usual bright palette.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/09/30 18:34:41


Post by: Commander Cain


Very nice! Blue gems worked a treat.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 17:08:13


Post by: weetyskemian44


An idea for a diorama keeps banging away in my head. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I might accomplish this? I want gnarled windblown trees, carrion crows, craggy boulders and a nice medium sized shell crater. And of course a dead guy getting his eye pecked out. Apologies for the terrible picture I seem to have forgotten how to draw (it has been at least a year since I last tried). Maybe there will be a few nurglings scuttling about relishing the decay. I have some imperial guard multi-parts for the corpse and plenty of gravel for rocks, but how do I do the base and the tree and is there anywhere selling 28mm scale crows? These are the problems that face me.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 17:29:43


Post by: JB


Neat idea!

You might use sculpting clay that air dries for the basic earth with some sort of earth and vegetation on top.

There are several plastic bit crows available in various Warhammer Fantasy sets. Take a look at the plastic giant set for one.

There are plenty of dried plants that look like small trees.

The base itself could be a plastic or metal lid that you spray black and maybe dull or gloss coat.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 17:34:07


Post by: weetyskemian44


Lid! Of course I can use one of those big coffee jar lids.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 17:47:40


Post by: JB


 weetyskemian44 wrote:
Lid! Of course I can use one of those big coffee jar lids.


One trick will be getting your "earth" to adhere to the lid. Greenstuff would stick but that much of it would be a waste of money.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 17:49:31


Post by: weetyskemian44


I have tons of milliput? Its kind of the same.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 18:11:13


Post by: monkeytroll


Yeah, milliput makes a good basing material. Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone else who does crows in 28mm, but I o know they're out there. Interesting twigs or small branches make good dead trees - as in fact do dead bonsai I've been thinking of using some of mine for just such a purpose - haven't bothered yet as dead trees don't fit so well into my current terrain fix (Mine all died after moving to the boat, they didn't care much for the windy conditions )

I'll have a look at them and see if any seem suitable for wind-blown.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:07:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


cool idea... butal but cool nevertheless^^

atm i have no idea for the crows tho...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:18:37


Post by: weetyskemian44


Banged together some bits to start with - It'll help me to picture the diorama if I have something 3D to play around with. His pose will make more sense with the contours of the landscape beneath him

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:25:36


Post by: weetyskemian44


Lol

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:30:20


Post by: monkeytroll


That's what we're talking about


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:31:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nomnomnom^^


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:39:41


Post by: weetyskemian44


I think I came up with this idea because of watching a history program about world war one with loads of grim rotting corpses lying about. It's an important visual theme of warfare the old rotting corpse. Man made into meat. It's the underlying reality of war.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:52:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah....! the circle of life


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 19:59:18


Post by: GiraffeX


lol love your crow pic


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 21:20:07


Post by: Miss Dee


it made Tazzy giggle


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/02 22:09:33


Post by: Rogue Wolves


cool design, looking foward to seeing how you execute it!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 12:55:57


Post by: Valhalla130


Execute it... heh.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 14:14:35


Post by: dsteingass


Knarled trees and roots can be had by wrapping any kind of wire into an armature, then coat it all with Liquid Green Stuff or some sort of modeling goop, the more lumps, the better, just don't worry about being neat and tidy with it.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 20:49:18


Post by: inmygravenimage


Couple of links, 1 for an eBay seller:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=140152291395

And reaper's familiars, which has 1 in it:
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/familiar/latest/02969


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 21:44:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that reaper familiar raven has much potential for this dio...



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 22:09:54


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


or you could buy the vulture figure from the Ogre Kingdoms: Thundertusk/Stonehorn box set, as its pretty much ideal...





Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 22:12:21


Post by: Jackal


The Ogre one isnt bad mate, but its in a few parts.
However, its ankles and feet are part of the ogres arm :(

Ill see if i can dig one out, ive got a few layout about somewhere.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 22:18:51


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


 Jackal wrote:
The Ogre one isnt bad mate, but its in a few parts.
However, its ankles and feet are part of the ogres arm :(

Ill see if i can dig one out, ive got a few layout about somewhere.


it's ankles are part of the model, its the feet that aren't, but a small amount of GS makes everything perfect.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 22:19:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... dunno about the vulture... tis not a raven... and for that special dio i think a raven would be more true to a certain kind of mental image...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 22:22:54


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


 Viktor von Domm wrote:
hmmm... dunno about the vulture... tis not a raven... and for that special dio i think a raven would be more true to a certain kind of mental image...


It depends on how you think really. For me its a Vulture, but for others they'd think Raven. It's down to the individual in each case really.

plus I've yet to see a decent cast of a Raven other than the Mordheim signpost one.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 23:29:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well of course both are iconic carrion eater... so both fit the bill...

and i dunno... i forgott but i think i saw a raven mini somewhere...


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what about these then?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GW-Two-undead-carrion-birds-old-style-/290782494581?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item43b3fcbf75


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/03 23:34:28


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


got some about somewhere, they are massive compared to a guardsman unfortunately.. plus would take a lot of repositioning.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 08:02:15


Post by: weetyskemian44


Well thanks guys I thing that last one would be great - and then of course I could make a graveyard as my next diorama! Instant diorama pretty much, I would just need a few plastic skeletons and a wizard. But I first will have a go at GSing a raven. Just to see if its possible and because funds are low. I like to live life outside of my overdraft facility and I'm currently throwing money at a genestealer magus model.

A vulture (or several)would really be hilarious, but its drifting away from my original idea - and I would need to cut larger holes in the guardsmen. I can't really imagine a vulture being delicate enough to peck out an eye. Vultures are more gothic.


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I mean ravens are more gothic...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 09:50:51


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Vultures stab at the dead with their beaks, when you watch wildlife programs they take a little meat at a time, so an eyeball would be an appropriate sized morsel for it imo.

But I would like to see a scratch sculpt of a raven too



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 13:06:05


Post by: weetyskemian44


Its quite a scary prospect sculpting a raven but I will have a go later and see what happens. I can do miniature skulls so maybe I can do ravens.

I got some great metal decking bases from Dark Art miniatures and I'm putting a lot of the necomunda minis on them (not the orlocks they will have to have something special.)

Photo round-up of things getting prepared for paint.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 13:49:52


Post by: dsteingass


Hey Weets, if you ever feel like branching out from official GW stuff, I think this Armorcast mini would be your style:

http://armorcast.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=1523


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I think you could add the appropriate 80's animal-skin pattern to the spandex pants!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 14:15:41


Post by: weetyskemian44


METAL!! I think they should have given it more hair. Do you remember 80s hair metal? Of course you do.


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This looks quite promising and its posed well too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warhammer-Warriors-of-Chaos-Objective-Bird-on-Sign-M01-/280986928605?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item416c2045dd


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 16:14:31


Post by: dsteingass


Hair? lol..I tried to grow mine long but it was too curly
Spoiler:


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 18:02:47


Post by: weetyskemian44


So tell us what's going on here Dave?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 18:05:59


Post by: monkeytroll


We can't tell you're trying to grow long hair there Dave, you've got a hat on


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 18:10:55


Post by: dsteingass


I think they caught me on film during my playing of the drum solo for "Wipeout" on the quad-toms, hence the catachan-like facial expression


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 18:16:33


Post by: weetyskemian44


Interesting outfit - sort of quasi-cavalier/pilgrim fathers costume. So I'm guessing this is you in the 80s then.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 19:19:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


 dsteingass wrote:
I think they caught me on film during my playing of the drum solo for "Wipeout" on the quad-toms, hence the catachan-like facial expression


i see! that´s why you always refer to the constipation then


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 20:54:16


Post by: weetyskemian44


So anyway...

This guy is ex-Flight Lieutenant Eugene Zebulon the third. He is a defector from the planet Zardoth V Planetary Defense Navy. He gets to fly Buck Rogers' ship.

Lieutenant Zebulon was at the terrifying battle of Nylar 6 where he disgraced himself by turning his craft around and flying away never to be seen again. He would no doubt be languishing in military jail but for the fact that every witness was destroyed by the rampaging chaos fleet. He still wears his uniform and flies his now heavily modified space interceptor. His greatest fear is that one day his noble and wealthy family will find out he is alive and a coward and will be disgraced in polite society.

He likes to drink spirits excessively before space combat to calm his jittery nerves.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 21:42:39


Post by: Valhalla130


Can I post a mini i painted here for your approval?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 21:47:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the leather works on this guy looks very cool!

and mate... your fluffy pieces you write for your minis reads like a who is who of scifi^^


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/04 23:16:55


Post by: monkeytroll


Very nice. Lovely work on the flight suit and the leather.

Plus two Sean references for the price of one :thumbsup

Looking foward to seeing what you do with the Brat in this style, it's a mini that feels flamboyant, so grim and muted should be interesting.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 01:40:10


Post by: Rogue Wolves


wow weety I love that model... what model is that!?
@ dave, whoes that super cool guy in that picture... you know behind that weird drum player


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 05:53:27


Post by: weetyskemian44


Vallhala you can show us a pic - just make sure to label it. I'm looking forward to seeing whatever it is!

Thanks von dom I do love a bit of sci-fi. That's why I'm here!

Monkey troll what's Sean? If I'm referencing it its probably a second hand reference. Let me guess its a film about an alcoholic coward who disgraces his family name?
The brat will be a little bit flamboyant because he just has to be. But I will try and bring what I've learned to the model rather than just painting him exactly like my other brat.

Rogue wolves this is an "iron claw" space pirate. Iron Claw models were sculpted by Bob Olley back in 1987-8. He had a different style from the others. Some of his minis are proper cool - others are very odd looking, many are both odd and cool.

The model might need some more detail - a splash of dirt and maybe some glowing LEDs on his gun? He needs just a little something to make him groovy.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 08:12:07


Post by: Dysartes


I'm still amused I managed to mix up Bob Naismith and Bob Olley up in my mind when I was at the Mantic Open Day - no wonder Bob N was a bit confused when I asked about Scrunts...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 12:31:35


Post by: Valhalla130


Imperial Fist of the 8th Assault Company:



I'm trying to do a mostly all bike army. This is my first one. And my first Imperial Fist.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 15:58:07


Post by: weetyskemian44


Lol Dysartes - Don't you just hate those moments when one appears to others to be a loony due to a simple mistaken identity. When I was very young and stupid there was a teenager living down the road called Micheal Jackman, and after sitting listening to two Micheal Jackson fans talking about how much they loved his singing and dancing I went and asked Micheal Jackman what it was like to be a pop star and did he really used to be black? I was literally awed to have a famous singer living down the road. I like to think I've gotten more intelligent since then.

That's pretty good Valhalla all perfectly smooth and neat. I personally would recommend that you cover it all over (using a big soft brush) with watered down dark umber wash (devlain mud?). I always think vehicles look better with mud on them and yellow looks better dulled down a bit. Thanks for sharing.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 19:58:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Lol Dysartes - Don't you just hate those moments when one appears to others to be a loony due to a simple mistaken identity. When I was very young and stupid there was a teenager living down the road called Micheal Jackman, and after sitting listening to two Micheal Jackson fans talking about how much they loved his singing and dancing I went and asked Micheal Jackman what it was like to be a pop star and did he really used to be black? I was literally awed to have a famous singer living down the road. I like to think I've gotten more intelligent since then.
that left me speechless due to rolling on the floor holding my tummy^^ LOL


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 20:09:13


Post by: dsteingass


If I were him I would've said

"Weety Skem is not my lover, she's just a girl, who thinks that I am the King"
<bassline>
"Of Pop, who lives, down the block"
<bassline>


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 20:21:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


LOL..


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/05 20:28:24


Post by: monkeytroll


lol at both weety and Dysartes. Way to make yourselves look cool

Hah, I was reading Zardoth as a derivative of Zardoz, and Mr Connery was Zebulon Shalako in Shalako
Was wondering if Eugene was a reference too, but obviously not. Just me getting my nerd on


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/06 04:42:55


Post by: weetyskemian44


I was actually thinking of Zardoz when I called it Zardon. After all who could forget the man-kini look. But zebulon is just a coincidence, I picked it out of a list of old fashioned names.

I can think of a lot of situations where being young and ignorant but eager to express my opinion has got me into trouble. I think once when I was 6 and we were watching news about sectarian violence in northern ireland and I piped up and said "why can't the catholics and the prostitutes just get along" and my parents wouldn't explain why what I said was so funny.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/06 08:14:27


Post by: Scarper


Really great work on the leather on the latest chap, weety! I really like the model actually - the proportions are really odd, but have a great character to them. I think the background you've picked for him suits his expression to a tee!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/06 08:18:52


Post by: Dysartes


 monkeytroll wrote:
lol at both weety and Dysartes. Way to make yourselves look cool


I will have you know, monkeytroll, that I am never cool.

Anyway, Bob didn't hear what I said properly, and I think he thought I was talking about grunts...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 12:53:15


Post by: weetyskemian44


This is the first rogue trader model that I bought in my collection - Hacker Harris. He has a great pose - he looks like he is playing air guitar axe style.

I will call him Captain Günther Schulz. He is the current spokesman for the mercenaries, being as he has the most experience and kills and the best hair. He likes to think of himself as being the captain, and he is so long as he continues to be successful. The other mercs wouldn't hesitate to mutiny if his leadership falters however.
Günther enjoys bullsh*t macho posturing, unpleasant suprises(for other people) and telling exaggerated tales of his own greatness to a captive audience. Although he appears to be lightly armoured Günther has a secret force field device which has allowed him to cheat death many times and enhance his reputation. The others know not to get on his bad side as he enjoys playing dangerous practical jokes.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 14:32:02


Post by: monkeytroll


Excellent dirty denim and glowering stare from under those eyebrows

Good to see his hair helps him keep his place as captain


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 14:43:32


Post by: Briancj


Oh my god, he's the Lord Flashheart of the underhive.

"Treat your women like you treat your bolter! Load 'er up and set 'er off a dozen times a day! WOOF!"


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 14:55:51


Post by: weetyskemian44


Yes! lol he does look exactly like lord flashheart (I still find it hard to believe that Rick Mayall plays him - so different to his Bottom character).

Flashheart: The first thing to remember is always treat your kite [Whacks diagram with his pointer.] like you treat your woman [Whips the air. Hard.]
George: Ho-how do you mean, sir? You mean, um... you mean, take her home over the weekend to meet your mother?
Flashheart: No. I mean get inside her five times a day and take her to heaven and back!
Blackadder: I'm beginning to see why the Suffragette Movement want the vote.
Flashheart: Hey, any bird who wants to chain herself to my railings and suffer a jet movement gets my vote!


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Gunter is definitely a ladies man - or he likes to think he is anyway.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 15:03:16


Post by: monkeytroll


Captain Darling? Funny name for a guy isn't it? Last person I called darling was pregnant twenty seconds later.

Oh, I think you need to find a complete set of Blackadder themed minis now


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 15:04:52


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Is that a Vakyrie in my pocket, or are you just pleased to see me? WOOF!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 18:03:30


Post by: Rogue Wolves


I love the design on this guy alot, and your paint job gives him justice!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 20:43:02


Post by: Valhalla130


Very nice. And I appreciat ethat we were treated to TWO butt-shots this time! lol


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/07 21:49:34


Post by: Viktor von Domm


looking great that mini!... tho it reminds me a bit of sabretooth...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/08 14:47:52


Post by: dsteingass


EPIC eyebrows!!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/08 14:57:40


Post by: Scarper


He looks awesome, love the denim, and the hair is wonderful! I can totally see him playing defenseless as his assailant closes in, then jumping them when his forcefield deflects a shot. Ace!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 12:17:13


Post by: weetyskemian44


I ain't dead.
I was kidnapped by aliens.

Two new brothers for the brood.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 12:48:27


Post by: monkeytroll


Good to hear you're not dead, that's never fun. Hope you managed to snaffle some cool alien tech before they dropped you back off.

Looks like those brothers gonna work it out.

Looking sweet, lovely skin as usual, the green looking great against the purple.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 14:39:36


Post by: Miss Dee


U ask them to drop you off or did you scar them into bringing you back???


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 15:18:14


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, I figured they should at least give you some tech for putting up with their..um..probes.

I really like the skin tone on the delaques too Weets.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 15:41:40


Post by: Gitsplitta


Those look *really nice* weety! Love the purple and green.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 16:45:00


Post by: Dysartes


 Miss Dee wrote:
U ask them to drop you off or did you scar them into bringing you back???


They let her get a blade, Miss Dee?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 16:52:54


Post by: monkeytroll


She uses her needle files to keep her nails at a razor edge


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 17:43:35


Post by: weetyskemian44


I do actually have a sharp set of nails - cut myself now and again. But I need them for the blasted touch screen tills(give me a keyboard any day).

The secret to the delaques skintone is to add a little grey to the flesh wash - it gives a subtler effect - in fact thats the answer to a lot of subtlety in painting - add varying amounts of grey.

The aliens gave me the civ3 expansion pack 'Conquests'! Thats the real reason I haven't painted anything recently - that and some nights on the town, friends doing open mike nights etc. Some talented musicians out there who just didn't get lucky but haven't given up yet.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/21 19:13:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


good looking members of the mens har club!!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/22 01:27:57


Post by: Valhalla130


Good to see you back, Weets. As always, you do good work.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/22 06:18:33


Post by: weetyskemian44


Diorama Update: Arrival of the bird

Is it a carrion crow or a raven - I can't decide.

Comes with handy grave marker / signpost. I might use that elsewhere in the scene.
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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/22 13:41:50


Post by: dsteingass


Hey, I found a buzzard/crow in plastic from the Warhammer Giant kit. Sorry it's a bit late


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/22 15:04:01


Post by: inmygravenimage


Funny, I saw the update and thought, I miss when this blog had stealers in it! So I am a happy, happy graven indeed


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/22 18:15:42


Post by: monkeytroll


Now we just need to see some o' them short guys make a come back

Look forward to seeing the carrion raven in action.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 07:17:15


Post by: weetyskemian44


I might paint some squats soon monkeytroll. I have some spares kicking around to practice on.


This is Boris the Bratt. He is more grimdark than my last bratt who was a touch psychedelic - http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/277336-.html?m=2
Also this is my first attempt at a non-metalic metal sword:

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 12:00:45


Post by: Gitsplitta


The Return of Michael Myers, 40k style.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 12:28:59


Post by: Valhalla130


That is some leonine hair.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 14:25:59


Post by: weetyskemian44


PDH sent me this miniature (sans arms) - Thanks PDH!!

He does look a little like Micheal Myers with that mask doesn't he.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 16:20:22


Post by: dsteingass


Is it a vintage Rt era fig? He looks like he is wearing Empire (Landschnecht?) clothing? I love the giant hand-cannon and the purple and brown scheme is great!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 18:42:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that mask is really creepy! *shudders* but while i am still feeling that eerie wind... very well done weety!!!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 18:52:07


Post by: weetyskemian44


He is a confrontation hive brat (early necromunda style game) dstein. But he does have fantasy empire arms because they go well with the rest of his getup.

Thanks for looking.

Whats next I wonder.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 20:28:47


Post by: Valhalla130


Those Empire arms go so well with his outfit, because he's a pretentious ganger who aspires to be considered one of the upper crust. He probably has a little status within his group, and can send others to do most of his dirty work, while pretending he's not a dirty, throat-slitting ganger. So he "puts on airs" and wears fine clothes trying to fit into a world that will never accept his brutish ways, but always reluctant to mention it to him.

I can see him chafing under his boss, always wondering why he himself isn't in charge, and forever scheming to rise to the next rank.


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He also wears the mask when he has to get his hands dirty, never understanding his pompadour and fancy clothes give him away.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/25 20:30:21


Post by: dsteingass


So he's basically Starscream?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/26 20:54:37


Post by: inmygravenimage


 dsteingass wrote:
So he's basically Starscream?


And once again, he has failed...

Beautiful work weets, there's something Harlequin-esque about your whole assembly there, loving it.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/28 11:35:15


Post by: weetyskemian44


We found civilization the board game in the second hand shop the other day. It has 780 plastic miniatures, or thereabouts. Going to try painting the ships! Also painting a squat today, it has been too long.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/28 12:08:45


Post by: Gitsplitta


What? You're not going to paint all 780 miniatures?? For shame!



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/28 12:16:26


Post by: weetyskemian44


Nah, its a bit production line for my liking - I might paint some of the tanks though! Squat is coming along now - probably pics in a few hours


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/28 12:50:03


Post by: JB


I didn't know that Civilization had a board game version. Hmm...I may have to go play Civ 4 Gold now. You've reminded me that I haven't played it in a long time.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/28 16:03:37


Post by: weetyskemian44


I didn't know either till I saw this - I bet it takes a while to play though (just like the real thing!)

Freshly minted new-look squat. I've got a few squats left to paint - heavy weapons and bike. They will be painted like this. I may strip some of the other painted squats and re-do them.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/10/29 01:13:00


Post by: Gitsplitta


I loved the squats... nice work weety.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 03:46:44


Post by: Cave_Dweller


Your paint job makes that sculpt look awesome.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 04:35:08


Post by: Rogue Wolves


loving the squat!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 08:00:20


Post by: weetyskemian44


Thanks you guys - there will be more squats soon - found a nest of them hiding in one of my miniature stashes - there's about 8 of em complete with heavy weapons and leaders.

Strange dream last night - I dreamt that Jimmy saville touched me in a bad way so I had to assassinate him and his two evil clones to save the children and avenge my honour. I got the two clones with a rockfall trap and the shot the original saville with an arrow to the face. It was all kind of skyrim style - I think I used a daedric arrow to administer the coup de grass . Quite frightening really, in the dream savile was quite a powerful bad guy and he nearly got me with his magic fireballs, and I really did believe it was happening. Weird - but I'm strangely proud to have defeated dream-saville.

Anyway back to reality - a supply drop from TheTrollTrader.com, a great little company in Nequay, Cornwall. These were a real steal considering they are normally 9 pounds each and I beat him down to 6 apiece.

Also just for fun here is work in progress on a tiny tiny ship.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 13:09:54


Post by: Gitsplitta


Who is Jimmy Saville??

Congrats on the victory though. Next target... Freddy Krueger!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 14:56:08


Post by: weetyskemian44


Sir Jimmy Saville was a BBC DJ who became very popular for his (supposedly) charitable works for children and his odd appearance. Since he died it has became apparent that he sexually molested at least 700 teenagers during his long career. Its been all over the papers recently and was bound to end up in my tortured nightmares sooner or later.

I forget that Americans have probably never heard of him - he was mega celeb over here.

He had a knighthood - Its like finding out that your favourite uncle shoots puppies. Although come to think of it he was always a bit of a creepy weirdo.


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In the dream he had a weird temple on wheels. It had magical statues that fired spinning metal discs at me and I had to deflect them back to destroy the statues. Then I ran and did a spinning leap into the temple - Sir Saville shouted "NOW THEN NOW THEN!" and began to draw his golden mace, quick as a flash I drew my bow and shafted him right between his eyes, shattering his trademark rose tinted sunglasses into a thousand shards. It was awesome. Best dream ever.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 15:08:59


Post by: Gitsplitta


Ah, we've had our share of those too unfortunately. Perhaps that dream was "closure" for your subconscious...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 18:56:16


Post by: dsteingass


 weetyskemian44 wrote:
...Then I ran and did a spinning leap into the temple...

Were you wearing a fedora and carrying a whip?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 20:12:45


Post by: weetyskemian44


Lol but No -
I think I may have been dressed as robin hood?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 20:13:16


Post by: Valhalla130


Someone plays too many vidya games right before beddy bye time.

lol


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/01 23:25:47


Post by: Miss Dee


Human or Elf Ranger??


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/02 00:26:02


Post by: dsteingass


Were you wearing a codpiece?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/02 06:12:39


Post by: weetyskemian44


Hahahahaha no I'm really not that sure of the fine detail. Maybe I was an elf? It would partially explain the outfit.

My holiday is coming up - lots of painting.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/05 09:46:52


Post by: weetyskemian44


First day of the holiday and I'm off too a quick start. An exercise in batch painting and a new look for the squats. I'm very happy with the way the colours fit together. I will put up some more pics when I finish the bases. Click for zoomable.




Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/05 09:49:40


Post by: neil101


Squats ! such a characterful bunch .. particularly fond of the lascannon dude.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/05 12:33:40


Post by: Gitsplitta


Wonderful! Those are just great weety!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/05 18:50:05


Post by: weetyskemian44


An enthusiastic reception for the squats! Its ever so tempting to strip the others and mass-repaint my squat army now. But I should probably paint some of the huge pile of unpainted minis I have first.

Here is a pic of the old squat paint scheme - bright and shiny as a lollypop.




Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/06 14:43:28


Post by: weetyskemian44


Here is the finished squad. All nicely based and ready. Very fine looking now I'm basing them I think.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/06 15:34:11


Post by: Gitsplitta


Quite nice weety. Very appropriate. Man I miss having squats as part of 40k!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/06 21:10:35


Post by: monkeytroll


All hail the squats

Beautiful work weety, nice bases too, good complement to the minis. That's a great looking squad, great faces - the contemplating cigar chomper, the grinning las-cannoneer and the scowling dude, quality stuff.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/06 21:26:40


Post by: JB




That's a really neat squad. I like almost every squat model GW produced, and you've made them into a very nice and cohesive unit. For some odd reason though, I keep thinking of Gamma World.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/08 01:51:07


Post by: dsteingass


Excellent Squats Weets!

Would it be considered blasphemy if I took those old squat minis and upgraded the weapons to the new look? This gives me some ideas, provided that those old minis aren't worth a fortune by now.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/09 07:52:48


Post by: weetyskemian44


Unfortunately they are about 4 pounds each for simple troopers in the buy it now section. You will get cheap deals on plastic squats and squats missing their arms and seeing as you are converting them anyway its a win win situation.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/09 14:14:29


Post by: Valhalla130


I want a squad of squats for my IG army. I found several on eBay that look promising that are all metal. I think. No funds at the moment though.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/11 16:06:55


Post by: weetyskemian44


You should all totally get some squats for your armies. Let me know if you do and show pics.

Slightly blurred photo of my commissar, I think I need to take another photo with a different background - anyway he isn't quite finished I just noticed a gem on his sword which needs paint. I never actually painted this guy before even though I've had him for years, he was already painted when I got him to quite a high standard - But now I think I can do better.


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His old paintjob:



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/11 16:24:01


Post by: monkeytroll


What are you talking about?

The flat black and the Dale Winton skin tone made that mini in the first place.

How dare you wade in with your size 8's and start shading and highlighting and who knows what other filthy tricks?


S'nice


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/11 16:40:06


Post by: weetyskemian44


Thanks - the photo doesn't really do it justice.

I used to give all my minis an orange tan, and I blame citadel and their jersey shore style flesh wash. I'm glad I got a better flesh wash!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/11 16:49:26


Post by: Briancj


Gits, Squats are TOTALLY back in 40K. Says so, right in the main rulebook!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/11 18:15:02


Post by: Gitsplitta


Outstanding!!

*starts plotting*


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/11 19:50:30


Post by: weetyskemian44


Wow - Spread the good news!

I heard somewhere that they will be a bit different from the good old squats we know. More alien I heard.

I should glue that squat bike back together.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 01:43:42


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Well tau have dwarf like gollum people.. But it's not the same


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 02:34:11


Post by: dsteingass


You can make an entire IG codex army with all squats if you want to.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 06:40:20


Post by: weetyskemian44


Makes sense - They were always armed and equipped in similar ways.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 14:37:33


Post by: monkeytroll


When did we start caring about having to make sense around these parts


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 15:51:38


Post by: dsteingass


If Marines have BS4, then I think a Squat IG army should have BS5. Squats are in every way superior after all


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 16:18:56


Post by: Valhalla130


And this is why Squats were devoured by the tyranids, boys and girls.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 16:24:53


Post by: dsteingass


..Because Jervis threw a fit


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 17:42:23


Post by: Miss Dee


Cant we throw a Jervis???


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/12 18:46:53


Post by: neil101


The commissar is great weets you should make a squad of them . nice basing btw on the squats they look really coherent . superb job


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 09:41:48


Post by: weetyskemian44


Is there like an official story as to why jervis hates squats? Or even a rumour. Did he get beaten a lot by squat armies or is he just racist to short people?

I promise to paint something soon, but my skyrim addiction is resurging atm so free time is scarce.

Going to chuck some things in the stripper!!!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 09:50:48


Post by: monkeytroll


Don't just chuck things in the stripper - if you're going to tip, then be gentle, just tuck it in the thong - chucking things will just get the bouncers mad


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 17:18:21


Post by: weetyskemian44


[Smirk] [chuckle].

I'm stripping the other commissar - this one:



I always thought it was odd, given that the wargear list allowed comissars a vast array of nasty guns, that this guy only has a lasgun and a bayonet. Maybe it is a special lasgun


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 18:55:25


Post by: weetyskemian44


Well. That model had three layers of paint on it and the bottom one was purple! Odd choice of primer. I can see some more detail now all that is off.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 19:23:50


Post by: Commander Cain


Well would ya look at that. There was a fantastic looking commissar under all that blobby paint!

The painted commissar is also amazing, love the sword especially!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 20:14:30


Post by: monkeytroll


Yeah, that is a special gun - it's connected to his headset and he just wanders around the battlefield yelling 'Mau'dib'.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 21:08:48


Post by: Valhalla130


I love how he has an open mouth once stripped, but it was closed while painted.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/13 21:10:30


Post by: monkeytroll


Hey, that stripping agent smarts you know - he's still gasping at the shock


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/14 04:36:04


Post by: Casey's Law


Hey, weety!

I love your blog, particularly because you're constantly improving, it's fun to watch you over time.

Also, as much as i enjoy watching someones process it's nice to know that if i see an update from you, 90% of the time it's a lovely finished model ready for display.

Thirdly, i love that you are sprucing up these OOP models, they really deserve some TLC.

Proving all of my points are your recent Squats. Great job!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/14 09:18:40


Post by: weetyskemian44


Thanks casey'slaw - is that bambi's dad you have as your avatar? Inventive! I'm glad you like my finished pieces - occasionally people want to see the painting step by step but I think it would get boring if I did it all the time.

Monkey - A sleeper has awakened! He needs a sandworm to ride.

commander cain and vallhalla - it was very very thick paint - I think this was one of the first models I purchased and at the time I didn't know how to strip paint so I just painted over the already really thick paintjob. I think someone had already painted over the first paintjob. So I am very pleasantly surprised to find detail under the gunk.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/14 09:36:03


Post by: Casey's Law


It is indeed Bambi's dad, good spot! I couldn't decide on something i liked recently and then i stumbled across a clip of the film while researching something else.

Think an old school Disney marathon is going to happen soon!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/14 18:08:30


Post by: weetyskemian44


Don't forget Fern Valley - its basically avatar but with fairies instead of aliens.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/14 18:25:46


Post by: Casey's Law


Fern Gully. weety!

And yeh it's one of my favourites, i think i'll have to squeeze it in with the Disney stuff. Avatar was just a low quality rip off.

Also, there was a Fern Gully 2 which i haven't seen. I'm not sure i want to...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/14 18:57:13


Post by: weetyskemian44


Yeah we know where James cameron stole his idea from!



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 03:47:15


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


And if you don't remember why Fern Gully was awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cSOVd8QMr8

Tim Curry... making Pollution sexy again.

Mmm.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 04:07:13


Post by: Casey's Law


 Chemical Cutthroat wrote:
Tim Curry... making Pollution sexy again.


Yes! This is why we are friends.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 14:51:19


Post by: neil101


 weetyskemian44 wrote:
Yeah we know where James cameron stole his idea from!



and a healthy dose of buchet i imagine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_%28comics%29



the commi looks nice and naked now


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 18:12:50


Post by: weetyskemian44


That sounds like a great comic - proper sci-fi.

I was thinking about stripping some of my squats so I could make up a squad in the new paintjob. But I thought I should take a photo of the old paintjobs to help me decide.



Some problems I have with these miniatures; They look a little to blond and tanned like some kinda beach squats, and for my current tastes the blue and grren are too vibrant. On the other hand I am awfully fond of them and they are very very neat.



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Also why did I paint the visors gold???? I think I may have been thinking of the gold visors that apollo astronauts have. But blue visors are just better.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 20:56:51


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


I think the skin is certainly rather bronzed...

...maybe they're PC Gamers.

Otherwise I like the vibrancy of em'! And you already have a squad that's all muted and stuff... have some loud squats and be proud. They look good.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 21:10:54


Post by: monkeytroll


Well quite obviously after the gribbly nids nom-nommed all their buddies these 5 decided to hitch a ride to the Hah-Y-E system and spend some time with the surf. After a few decades of this they'd run out of funds and had to go back into the mercenary business so that they can afford to travel over to the N-T-Podes as they've heard good things about the booze and women in that cluster.

And they need those RayBan visors on the beach you know.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 21:12:30


Post by: Gitsplitta


Bronzed, blond dwarves... the must be from the California dwarf clan!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/15 22:26:17


Post by: Valhalla130


They're Viking squats whose longship got blown too far south.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/16 01:09:38


Post by: Casey's Law


Wonka's security force.


...I think i just crossed the line of funny and taking the piss. I apologise.

Honestly, i like them but i much prefer the new look.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/16 07:00:10


Post by: weetyskemian44


Jersey shore squats...

Casey'slaw you hit the nail on the head. I do love them, but I may strip them anyway - don't worry there are another 10 of the old paintjob squats left - these were just the orangey-est ones. Or maybe I should just buy more squats(checks bank balance): where the bloody hell did all the money go!?! I swear my housing association charges me for rent twice.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 09:21:04


Post by: weetyskemian44


Well then - here is my to do list of models that have been grey-scaled ready for painting.

Hybrid - I'm very pleased with my assembly on this one - it required a lot of GS and patience. I found an extra claw arm in my bits box that was just perfect and I had no idea where it came from. The magazine on his autopistol looks dead straight and that was the hardest bit to get right!



Commissar lasgun man. I think maybe he is using the humble lasgun to show solidarity with the troops - but I bet he has had it secretly upgraded to master crafted hot-shot.



This Ork - I love this ork, he just looks right. So perfectly old school fantasy. So I better paint him. His sword is a plastic replacement because he was damaged



Plastic Squat - I have three of these but it is very hard to get a good pose on them - this one is the first one I've succeeded with. He is a gunslinging biker type.



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 10:52:47


Post by: monkeytroll


How many shades of grey?

Looking good in their monochromatic glory, eagerly awaiting paint!

Like the base on the hybrid, and love the old-skool orc, looks like he's rubbing his face against his favourite choppa in a carressing way.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 12:15:44


Post by: weetyskemian44


40,000 shades of grey!

Thanks monkey - They are already accumulating paint. I will do an update once a few more layers are down.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 13:41:03


Post by: dsteingass


This is the story of Jervis VS. The Squats from portent.net'

Spoiler:
"I know I shouldn't get drawn on this... but... can't... resist

Seriously, a couple of points just so you can have an informed debate based on the real reasons that Squats are no longer available. Be warned, it is going to be hard reading for people that like the Squat background.

First of all, Squats were *not* dropped because they were not selling well. There were then, and are now, plenty of other figure ranges that sell in the sort of % quantaties that the Squats pulled down, especially when you look across all of the ranges produced by GW rather than just those for 40K.

No, the reason that the Squats were dropped was because the creatives in the Studio (people like me, Rick, Andy C, Gav etc) felt that we had failed to do the Dwarf 'archetype' justice in its 40K incarnation. From the name of the race (Squats - what *were* we thinking?!?!) through to the short bikers motif, we had managed to turn what was a proud and noble race in Warhammer and the other literary forms where the archetype exists, into a joke race in 40K. We only fully realised what we had done when we were working on the 2nd edition of 40K. Try as we might, we just couldn't work up much enthusiasm for the Squats. The mistake we made then (deeply regreted since) was to leave them in the background and the 'get you by' army list book that appeared. With hindsight, we should have dropped the Squats back then, and saved ourselves a lot of grief later on.

Anyway, the Squats made it into 2nd edition, and since we were doing army books for each of the races, we started to try and figure out what to do with them. Unfortunately we just couldn't figure out a way to update them and get them to work that we felt was good enough. The 'art' of working on an army as a designer is to find the thing that you think is cool and exciting about an army, and work it up into a strong theme. This 'muse' didn't strike any of us, and so, rather than bring out a second-rate product simply re-hashing the old background, we kept doing other army books instead, with stuff we did feel inspired by.

Now, while this was all going on for 40K, we were actually doing some rather good stuff for the Squats in Epic. On this scale there was a natural tendancy to focus on the big 'hand-made' war machines the Squat artisans produced, and this created an army with a feel that was very different to the biker hordes in 40K. However, this tended to reinforce the problems we saw in the Squat background rather than alleviate them, underlining what we *should* have done with the Squats in 40K.

In the end (and it took years to really get to the roots of the problem) this led to a realisation that we were going to have to drop the Squats in their 'Squat' form from the 40K background. There was little point having a major race that we weren't willing to make an army book for, and their inclusion in the background meant that people kept asking us when we'd do a Squat Codex. Instead we decided that we'd write the Squats out of the background by saying that their Homworlds had been devoured by a Tyranid Hivefleet. This would give us the option in the future to return to making a race based ont he Squat archetype for 40K. This race was given the name of Demiurg, and a certain amount of preliminary work was done to get a 'feel' for what the race would be like. At present the only hint of the Demiurg in 40K is the Demiurg spaceship for BFG. However, we do have this race 'in our back pocket' as a possible new race for 40K, or an interesting character model in Inquisitor, or whatever. So far the Demiurg have lost out to other projects, and it may be that their time never actually comes, as they will have to win through on their merits, not simply because we once made some Squat models in the past. At present, I have to say that it is more lilely that they *don't* make the cut than do, as there is a certain predudice these days to simply taking races from Warhammer and cross them over to 40K like we did in the early days, so it may be that the Squats/Demiurg end up remaining a footnote in the history of the 40K galaxy. Only time will tell...

The second point I'd like to make is about 'old moulds'. In the past, Mail Order in the UK and US used to be the place that we kept all of the retired moulds for Citadel Miniatures, and we used to offer a service where you could order any Citadel Mniature ever made from MO. However, there are now so many of these 'back catalogue' miniatures that it is simply impossible to keep all of the old moulds in Mail Order and offer this service. Instead, we pick and choose which back catalogue miniatures are kept available. At present we're still struggling to produce special catalogues for these ranges (in the US there is the 'Phone Book' catalogue with everything in it, while the UK has special 'collectors guides' that are themed round a race). Once we've ironed out the kinks in the way we deal with the range of collectors models we want to keep permenantly available, the plan is to offer up other parts of the back catalogue for limited periods of time. In effect this will divide the back catalogue into three parts: a range of classic models that are permenantly available, a range of classic models we dip into and bring out for a limited release, and a range of retired models that will no longer be sold either because we've decided that they are embarrassingly bad, or because we are no longer allowed to sell them due to licencing agreement changes. So far we're still slowly working on deciding which classic models we want to keep permenantly available, and its going to take several years to work through just those. The old Squat range is most likely to end up as retired models, I have to say, though there is a good chance that the Squat war engines they could simply into the limited release classic range. Once again, only time will tell...

I'll finish off by saying that whatever we decide to do 'officially', there is nothing stopping players with Squat armies from using them, either in Epic or 40k for that matter. There is no GW 'rule' against using old Citadel Miniatures, as long as you use them with exisiting army lists and in a way that won't cause confusion for other players. I recommend taking a positive stand by saying "Have you seen these cool old models? They're called the Squats and GW used to make them back in the late eighties/early nineties. I love 'em, so I count them as Imperial Guard and use them with the current rules..." Put like this I can't imagine that anyone would stop you from using your army.

Best regards,

Jervis Johnson
Head Fanatic"


So it sounds like that paragraph in the back of the new 40k Codex about Squats and the "permanent dsagreement" between the Lords of Terra (i.e. himself, Rick Priestly, Gav Thorpe, and Andy Chambers)- Well Rick has left GW to start Warlord Games now and Mat Ward is now a Lord of Terra in the GW HQ and wants the Squats back.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 15:56:49


Post by: weetyskemian44


Well There you go - I didn't think they were a 'joke' personally, but they were a bit half baked and underdeveloped. I like the idea of emphasizing the engineer aspect of the squats and making them tech wizards.

But basically I love the biker look and there will always be room for humour in 40k


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 17:53:48


Post by: Dysartes


As much as anything else, the problems were they handed off substantial elements of the Dwarf archetype to other races - Space Wolves being a prime culprit, as they have huge elements of typical Norse mythology in their imagery.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 20:38:14


Post by: weetyskemian44


Thats true mr dysartes - apart from the odd rune here and there the squats don't have much norse to them. And I suppose squat is a daft name on reflection.

These are by no means finished but I thought I might as well post a pic seeing as they won't be done till tomorrow:

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/18 21:45:21


Post by: dsteingass


I love the Bald little guy! Commissar's armor is pretty cool too, that's a look that sitll fits in IMHO.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/19 01:15:07


Post by: Rogue Wolves


That bald guy is great, I have a few of that style squat but with different heads, and I like the commissar!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/19 01:19:10


Post by: monkeytroll


Looking good so far

And that squat head would make a great basis for a Walter White figure I'd been toying with an orky version, but....hmm, cogs are churning


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/19 13:41:06


Post by: Valhalla130


Looking good, weets.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 06:39:39


Post by: weetyskemian44


Thanks all - monkeytroll I haven't watched that series - isn't he played by the dad from Malcolm in the middle? Yes I can imagine that head attached to a dirty lab coat.

Still not totally decided on stripping any squats - I should probably paint the bikes b4 I do anything else. I've been looking at bob olleys scrunts again as well - much better sculpts but they are larger than GW squats and might not go well together. Anyone seen his texas gunslinger scrunts? They are cool: http://www.collecting-miniatures.com/olley/index.php/Lupus

Can anyone recommend a really Nordic looking space dwarf? I was hoping that there might be a company doing a more modern sculpt.

Here are finished pieces. Maybe I can do better, but they are to a good standard. I need to push myself soon.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 11:07:31


Post by: Dr H


Good job on both of them, look really lifelike.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 12:25:08


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think those look fine weets. Nice additions to your collection.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 19:57:42


Post by: JB


That is a really nice group of minis for this round of painting!

I am particularly fond of the Orc. He comes from the BC2 Monster Starter Set that Citadel produced in 1985. My friends and I bought a set (mail order from England). I kept all five of the goblinoid figures including the Orc Champion, which is the model that you are painting. He originally had a morning star.

P.S. I really dig the Squat and the Commissar. Nice minis and an excellent blend of colors. Nothing too overpowering; very natural and very nice!



Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 19:58:54


Post by: Chemical Cutthroat


I feel like he could really use a shotgun. He's just got the pose for it down.

The Squat is awesome. Just awesome. I love the glasses.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 20:10:26


Post by: weetyskemian44


Hey JB I think I have the vile goblin from that set too.

Thanks for looking guys - here is another one. I thought I better try a little OSL with this one and I think I may have made it just a touch too subtle but well its only like the third time I tried it and I'm pretty happy.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 20:16:57


Post by: Gitsplitta


Hmmm.... I don't see the OSL, but too little is better than too much. Oh wait... the red light on the floor, right?


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 20:20:21


Post by: weetyskemian44


Definitely too subtle - It would probably show up better against a black background. I may go back and intensify it.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 20:23:20


Post by: Dr H


He looks good.
The OSL on the figure looks fine, subtle yes, but it works. Maybe a bit more on the metal floor surrounding the light might draw the attention a bit more...but you know I'm hardly the expert...


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/20 20:24:14


Post by: weetyskemian44


Claws need work too.


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I think you're right Dr H - A little more on the floor.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 08:01:03


Post by: weetyskemian44


Voila! It does look better a bit less subtle. Sorted out the claws too.

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Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 08:19:21


Post by: Casey's Law


Everything is looking great, weets!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 12:12:25


Post by: Gitsplitta


Big improvement weets, well done!


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 12:53:24


Post by: Valhalla130


Great job, weets. I've never liked those style claws. They don't look sharp enough to do any damage. They just look like tubers to me. Like he's got a glove with yams stuck thru it. lol


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 12:54:58


Post by: Dr H


Yep, good job.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 16:26:49


Post by: weetyskemian44


Yams! Or bananas.


Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute @ 2012/11/21 19:05:27


Post by: weetyskemian44


models ready for colour.

On the left is a model I already painted before but I found another one in my box of lead. Then the purestrain genestealer artfully balanced on a pipe - and finally my personal favourite the hybrid - I've been looking forward to painting this one for ages

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