Azreal13 wrote: That dragon makes a great first impression, but on closer examination, the back legs look too static, the tail looks awkward and the head design means it will be very hard to establish any sort of focal point as there essentially isn't a "face" thanks to all the horns.
Since it's a WIP, I'll wait to see the finished result and a painted version of it before I give it any criticism.
Really?
Those pictures aren't enough for you to base an opinion on? Exactly how much work do you think is left to do on that thing?!
Paint can mask a bad sculpt or ruin a good one, so I'd look out for the naked resin version if I were you.
Those pictures aren't enough for you to base an opinion on? Exactly how much work do you think is left to do on that thing?!
Paint can mask a bad sculpt or ruin a good one, so I'd look out for the naked resin version if I were you.
Unless I was writing in a different language, yes, really. I like the model so far, but I want to see it finished and painted. Nitpicking at the unfinished product is a bit pointless.
Those pictures aren't enough for you to base an opinion on? Exactly how much work do you think is left to do on that thing?!
Paint can mask a bad sculpt or ruin a good one, so I'd look out for the naked resin version if I were you.
Unless I was writing in a different language, yes, really. I like the model so far, but I want to see it finished and painted. Nitpicking at the unfinished product is a bit pointless.
No, it isn't.
It's a succession of clear, in focus, pictures of a complete/near complete model. If they scrap large parts of it and redo them, I'll revise my opinion, but if you're trying to argue that there's somehow insufficient information to have an opinion on this, as opposed to some of the half frame, fuzzy leak pics that do sometimes illicit a premature reaction, or are trying to argue that because it's "WIP" the pose and detail of the finished thing is going to somehow radically depart from what we're seeing, I'd suggest it's more about your inability to accept other people criticism of things you like, which is something there's copious amounts of evidence to support!
Or is it somehow ok to "like it so far" but on the same evidence I can't say "I don't like it so far" because that's nitpicking. Maybe I think you're being premature in your liking it?
Those pictures aren't enough for you to base an opinion on? Exactly how much work do you think is left to do on that thing?!
Paint can mask a bad sculpt or ruin a good one, so I'd look out for the naked resin version if I were you.
Unless I was writing in a different language, yes, really. I like the model so far, but I want to see it finished and painted. Nitpicking at the unfinished product is a bit pointless.
No, it isn't.
It's a succession of clear, in focus, pictures of a complete/near complete model. If they scrap large parts of it and redo them, I'll revise my opinion, but if you're trying to argue that there's somehow insufficient information to have an opinion on this, as opposed to some of the half frame, fuzzy leak pics that do sometimes illicit a premature reaction, or are trying to argue that because it's "WIP" the pose and detail of the finished thing is going to somehow radically depart from what we're seeing, I'd suggest it's more about your inability to accept other people criticism of things you like, which is something there's copious amounts of evidence to support!
Or is it somehow ok to "like it so far" but on the same evidence I can't say "I don't like it so far" because that's nitpicking. Maybe I think you're being premature in your liking it?
First of all, let me congratulate you on your membership of my Ignore list. Enjoy your stay.
And if anything, your comment earlier would suggest the same of you. I am open to people's criticism of things I like, but frankly, I find it annoying when folks jump on it like I've just killed a baby seal. Which is generally when the Ignore button kicks in.
Anyways, now you've had your little poke at me and made yourself feel like a big man, let's return to the topic of the discussion, shall we?
Trish cannot sculpt realistic looking animal/monster musculature, so why on earth GW and Forge World see her as the go to person whenever a monster needs sculpting is quite frankly beyond my comprehension.
I'm sure that she is a lovely person and I bear her no ill will personally, but I really really dislike her sculpts. technically they are just not up to scratch.
Dysartes wrote: Is it bad that I now want someone to konvert up a Khornate Kricket team?
Just line up Skaarac, Seamus and the Mourngul. Bonus points for the Tyranid Dimachaeron. You won't have to do much converting... Though you'll be hard pressed to find a batsman. They all fancy themselves as bowlers
There are events coming up thick and fast! Not only are we off to Dragon Con in the US and WynterCon in the UK, we’ll also be heading back to Spiel in Germany this October! From 13th to 16th October we’ll be at Spiel ‘16 at Messe Essen, Essen, Germany. We’ll be bringing the latest and greatest from Forge World, along with exclusive models and merchandise.
If you’ll be at Spiel you can place an order now with free shipping to the event, and make sure you get exactly what you want from Forge World. You have until 2nd October to place your order for collection at Spiel. All you need to do is selected Germany as your delivery country, then when you’re checking out you’ll be able to choose the event for delivery.
A friend said to me today that solar auxilia storm section with rotor cannons was rumoured for september october, is there any evidence for this or have i got my hopes for awesome looking miniguns up for nothing? -thanks
e.earnshaw wrote: A friend said to me today that solar auxilia storm section with rotor cannons was rumoured for september october, is there any evidence for this or have i got my hopes for awesome looking miniguns up for nothing? -thanks
This is news to me, but it wouldn't surprise me, as there are just a few models / options missing from the range as is right now:
- LORD MARSHAL IRETON MASADE
- Auxilia Rapier with Laser destroyer array
- Auxilia Rapier with Graviton cannon
- Veletarii with rotor cannon
- Tarantula with twin-linked multi-laser
- Tarantula with twin-linked heavy flamers
- Tarantula with twin-linked rotor cannon
Plus the reintroduction of the Stormblade super-heavy tank, which has been removed from sales some time ago sadly.
The Veletarii with rotor cannons shouldn't be too hard though, just like with the power axe variants, they use the same stock bodies, just different arms. Though as cool as they will no doubt look, I can't see myself using rotor cannons on such an aggressive and mobile unit.
e.earnshaw wrote: Thanks as for why id be using them they are better than lasrifle sections bs4 and higher bs and being half the model count but still geting 40 shots.
They tote salvo weapons though, so unless they're in a good spot their range is slashed and their output will suffer somewhat. Though it should be said that the spamming of attacks is in most cases more desirable than having one or two that really pack a punch. Not being able to overwatch at BS2 can also hurt!
Though this is all personal preference for me, I much prefer the vanilla Volkite Chargers, as you can pump out twenty shots at a delicious S5, with maybe two or three extra wounds on top depending on what you shoot at, then still charge in with three attacks per scrub and four for the Prime.
More marines :| At first I was like "if it's 20 torsos, 20 heads, 40 shoulder pads and 20 mk4 bodies - I'm collecting marines now". But since it's just 5 torsos, 10 heads and 20 pads just to add the Legion flavor... I'll just keep on waiting
Couldn't help but notice that forgeworld is selling the Ta'unar Supremacy Cadre (a bundle of 2 supremacy suits). You don't suppose they are actually thinking of making this an actual formation in the fire of Cyraxis do you? I'd feel really guilty running a supremacy suit version of the riptide wing.
Well, in US dollar wise, it's $37 more then buying 2 Tac Marine squads from GW. That really doesn't seem that bad to me, given the specific legion flair to it.
1. FW has done a much better job of portraying SW than GW. I don't hate FW 's version.
2. The Tac squads aren't that bad as mentioned above. Only $37 for all the legion bits for 20 marines. Okay. I mean isn't part of the schtick of 30k is that it's for the 1%ers?
SickSix wrote: 1. FW has done a much better job of portraying SW than GW. I don't hate FW 's version.
2. The Tac squads aren't that bad as mentioned above. Only $37 for all the legion bits for 20 marines. Okay. I mean isn't part of the schtick of 30k is that it's for the 1%ers?
It's not like we're collecting Bugatti Veyrons. Part of the fun of 30k is the converting of the forces to fit 30k. It used to be all converting all the time, Forge World just makes it easier to do a "proper" 30k force, if more expensive. I've seen many 30k armies beautifully converted with little to no Fprge World. Just as I've seen beautiful armies built on all Forge World.
I will be ordering at least two of those Space Wolves transfer sheets to finally get my VI Legion off the ground. Now if they'd just make some helmets for them!
.... Perhaps it's just the idea of a £90 troops choice is a wee bit hard to swallow/believe.
i checked the site and see thyy have two squads at 60 pounds for 20 mk 4 guys. That leaves 30 for the resin stuff. Or for 44 pounds you can upgrade 10 guys.
The fact that squad uprade kit is £44 is just insane. The plastic mk4 tac squad costs themselves arent tooo bad. (but are still abit nuts) but the upgrade kits are way too expensive for the content. Also correct me if ive read ir wrong but you dont even get a full upgrade kit in the tac squad bundle?
Bobug wrote: The fact that squad uprade kit is £44 is just insane. The plastic mk4 tac squad costs themselves arent tooo bad. (but are still abit nuts) but the upgrade kits are way too expensive for the content. Also correct me if ive read ir wrong but you dont even get a full upgrade kit in the tac squad bundle?
So are the tac squad bundles anything to do with BaC possibly coming to the end of its life? Or are FW just taking advantage of the separate boxes being released? On a related note Cataphractii pads for the rest of the legions would be really welcome.
I'm so getting those Wolf transfers. Not sure if I'll do more than a squad or two of 30k wolves, but those celtic-themed squad arrows, etc are definitely going on my 40k Wolves - either instead of or in addition to the standard Grey Hunter etc symbols.
That thing is so ugly. Whew. It's like the already ugly Taurox let itself go. It looks like one of those stereotypical US citizens who needs a lift to get them around. The teal paint job is not helping matters looks like homers robe when he is super fat. It's a very assy tank in a bad way so to speak.
Gamgee wrote: That thing is so ugly. Whew. It's like the already ugly Taurox let itself go. It looks like one of those stereotypical US citizens who needs a lift to get them around. The teal paint job is not helping matters looks like homers robe when he is super fat. It's a very assy tank in a bad way so to speak.
You just wish your filthy xenos Tau had one :-P
It's not meant to look pretty like an Eldar or Tau vehicle.
Kinda wish FW would tap into the Deathwatch release and put out a set of 30 shoulder pads from all different Chapters, including some of the ones they've done themselves - Minotaurs, Red Scorps, Space Sharks, even the Astral Claws.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Kinda wish FW would tap into the Deathwatch release and put out a set of 30 shoulder pads from all different Chapters, including some of the ones they've done themselves - Minotaurs, Red Scorps, Space Sharks, even the Astral Claws.
I am not a fan of sculpted shoulderpads, personally. I am with you though - they should have lined up at least something, right? Promote Solomon Lok? Throw in a new Inquisitor just for DW? Something... but that 30k train is UNSTOPPABLE.
Logistics? Maybe they don't have that STC, but have the others?
Nope, same problem with lots of other SM vehicles. GW is a bit confused on CSM vs Heresy Chaos Marines. You're telling me the Vengeful Spirit (Abaddon's flagship) has NO drop pods?
Joining Chaos is kind of a 'trade in' deal. You get a bunch of bonuses, but you have to swear never to use Land Speeders, Razorbacks, Whirlwinds, variant Land Raiders, Assault Cannons, Cyclones or Grav Guns ever again. In return you get a lot of Autocannons, and your Assault Marines get to have Meltaguns.
Logistics? Maybe they don't have that STC, but have the others?
Nope, same problem with lots of other SM vehicles. GW is a bit confused on CSM vs Heresy Chaos Marines. You're telling me the Vengeful Spirit (Abaddon's flagship) has NO drop pods?
It did once... but after 10,000 years, it ran out?
kronk wrote: I have held this model in my hands, opened it's doors, and made pew pew noises with it's guns at GenCon.
I did not feel like I was holding a £300 British Pound Moneys model.
:-(
To be honest, there are a few models like that. The real problem with this is the same problem with all FW's large models. Resin shrinkage during the cooling process makes these models a horror to put together.
All of the Chaos Mastodons ate all of their passengers and went around hunting for more, so they were all corralled and left stranded on one planet. If you go visit it, beware the free range Chaos Mastodons.
I want to like this but I feel the 40 troop capacity is underwhelming for such a beast when the smaller and cheaper (in more ways than one) Stormlord tank can match it and I personally think it is also better armed for most occasions... That being said I still want one but it is not top of my list of highend FW items that I can not afford. :(
Tank_Dweller wrote: I want to like this but I feel the 40 troop capacity is underwhelming for such a beast when the smaller and cheaper (in more ways than one) Stormlord tank can match it and I personally think it is also better armed for most occasions... That being said I still want one but it is not top of my list of highend FW items that I can not afford. :(
Stormlord doesn't have Void Shields.
That being said, I wish the Mastodon had a Flare Shield. :(
Tank_Dweller wrote: I want to like this but I feel the 40 troop capacity is underwhelming for such a beast when the smaller and cheaper (in more ways than one) Stormlord tank can match it and I personally think it is also better armed for most occasions... That being said I still want one but it is not top of my list of highend FW items that I can not afford. :(
Stormlord doesn't have Void Shields.
That being said, I wish the Mastodon had a Flare Shield. :(
True but I feel that the Stormlords smaller profile is more attractive than 2 AV12 void shields. Yes Flare shield would be most welcome to.
It's £300 which is apparently AUD$518 so you're getting a bargain
It's pretty massive.
All that massive armour plating , transport capability, and short ranged firepower, and they leave the front tracks (you know, the side of the tank that will be pointed at the enemy) completely exposed.....
It's £300 which is apparently AUD$518 so you're getting a bargain
It's pretty massive.
All that massive armour plating , transport capability, and short ranged firepower, and they leave the front tracks (you know, the side of the tank that will be pointed at the enemy) completely exposed.....
Sir, don't you dare attempt to inject reality into this discussion!
It's £300 which is apparently AUD$518 so you're getting a bargain
It's pretty massive.
All that massive armour plating , transport capability, and short ranged firepower, and they leave the front tracks (you know, the side of the tank that will be pointed at the enemy) completely exposed.....
Sir, don't you dare attempt to inject reality into this discussion!
Anything that can actually hit the track can likely take it out, armoured or not.
Don't care though, love the whole thing. Shame it's unlikely I'll ever get my hands on one, if I'm ever earning the sort of money where I can drop £300 on a model, I won't have the time to spend building and painting it!
Well having worked around and in tracked vehicles I know that concertina wire will ruin most tracks day by binding into the treads and causing them to slip off the mounts. But the IoM seems to have no issues with this. Same as having your guns behind your debarment points. FW and GW both go for rule of cool not will this ever work in reality. I do like the mastodon but my knight army would just run right up to it and proceed to spank it down. Then stomp the little mans that spill out.
gorgon wrote: Y'know, I really, really wish they'd make that a permanent thing. I think it'd be big for them.
Then again, I recognize that shipping isn't cheap, and this cuts into their margin.
I hate to say it, but this is 2016. Smaller companies are able to provide free postage, but Forgeworld doggedly stick to their £250 level! I remember reading a while back that their shipping threshold is there to push people to spend more and to discourage smaller orders. Certainly works for me in that I hardly ever impulse purchase with Forgeworld despite the fact that I love the stuff. Though I did an impulse purchase with the recent £125 free shipping threshold...
gorgon wrote: Y'know, I really, really wish they'd make that a permanent thing. I think it'd be big for them.
Then again, I recognize that shipping isn't cheap, and this cuts into their margin.
I hate to say it, but this is 2016. Smaller companies are able to provide free postage, but Forgeworld doggedly stick to their £250 level! I remember reading a while back that their shipping threshold is there to push people to spend more and to discourage smaller orders. Certainly works for me in that I hardly ever impulse purchase with Forgeworld despite the fact that I love the stuff. Though I did an impulse purchase with the recent £125 free shipping threshold...
It's never really free postage, though. For FW to go to that all the time for any order would require them to raise prices or make less per item.
The funny thing is that their system really just discourages what I'd consider to be a medium-sized order. If you just want a single transfer sheet or a pack of Phobos bolters, the 15% ends up being reasonable for overseas shipping. I dunno.
Any normal company offers reasonable shipping levels. Say a base of 3-5£ up to a certain level and then decreased shipping the more you order until it's free usually somewhere around £50 to £100).
FW's "brilliant" flat shipping fees actually incentive people to not add a little extra stuff to get up to the next shipping level (unless you're around the £250, and now £125 level). It's incredibly stupid and probably damage their sales more than one might think.
I've twice once ordered just the objects i n your exemple @gorgon: a single sheet of etched brass from FW, and another time just a pack of phobos bolters. With any other mini company out there I'd probably picked up something more whilst I was on the store anyway, to get cheaper shipping. But as it was there was no point in me doing so I purchased nothing else.
In a way it's considerate of them to not tempt us gamers with even more stuff to add to our ever growing pile of unnfinished projects I guess, but it hardly makes a lot of business sense.
Zywus wrote: Any normal company offers reasonable shipping levels. Say a base of 3-5£ up to a certain level and then decreased shipping the more you order until it's free usually somewhere around £50 to £100).
FW's "brilliant" flat shipping fees actually incentive people to not add a little extra stuff to get up to the next shipping level (unless you're around the £250, and now £125 level). It's incredibly stupid and probably damage their sales more than one might think.
I've twice once ordered just the objects i n your exemple @gorgon: a single sheet of etched brass from FW, and another time just a pack of phobos bolters. With any other mini company out there I'd probably picked up something more whilst I was on the store anyway, to get cheaper shipping. But as it was there was no point in me doing so I purchased nothing else.
In a way it's considerate of them to not tempt us gamers with even more stuff to add to our ever growing pile of unnfinished projects I guess, but it hardly makes a lot of business sense.
Yeah... I'd have to say that's just you. Everyone I have ever conversed with expressed the opposite opinion.
And how would your example damage their sales? You're still buying stuff. The notion that people aren't buying items because they wont get a slightly reduced shipping price, when they are already buying things anyway, seems illogical and uncharacteristic of human shopping behavior.
I work retail, so I know how to sell stuff, and how people buy things. The example you gave might be the way you purchase things, but it definetly is not indicitive of people's shopping habits in mass in my experience.
Zywus wrote: Any normal company offers reasonable shipping levels. Say a base of 3-5£ up to a certain level and then decreased shipping the more you order until it's free usually somewhere around £50 to £100).
FW's "brilliant" flat shipping fees actually incentive people to not add a little extra stuff to get up to the next shipping level (unless you're around the £250, and now £125 level). It's incredibly stupid and probably damage their sales more than one might think.
I've twice once ordered just the objects i n your exemple @gorgon: a single sheet of etched brass from FW, and another time just a pack of phobos bolters. With any other mini company out there I'd probably picked up something more whilst I was on the store anyway, to get cheaper shipping. But as it was there was no point in me doing so I purchased nothing else.
In a way it's considerate of them to not tempt us gamers with even more stuff to add to our ever growing pile of unnfinished projects I guess, but it hardly makes a lot of business sense.
Yeah... I'd have to say that's just you. Everyone I have ever conversed with expressed the opposite opinion.
And how would your example damage their sales? You're still buying stuff. The notion that people aren't buying items because they wont get a slightly reduced shipping price, when they are already buying things anyway, seems illogical and uncharacteristic of human shopping behavior.
I work retail, so I know how to sell stuff, and how people buy things. The example you gave might be the way you purchase things, but it definetly is not indicitive of people's shopping habits in mass in my experience.
What do you mean people have expressed the opposite opinion. That they're more likely to buy more stuff if the shipping increases with each item?
Unless it's common for people to add extra stuff to get up to £250, the shipping scheme likely damages FW's sales because it is a incentive against buying more stuff than you originally was going to. (with the exempton of orders getting close to £250, but that's a pretty hefty purchase.) If instead of a percentage, the shipping was say £3 for orders up to x grams of weight, I'd probably have added a pack of World eater heads as well as the brass, since it wouldn't have increased the shipping.
If you pay a set shipping cost regardless of whether you purchase one item or two items, someone that was originally only after one item are likely to look around to see if there's something else they might throw in the shopping cart so as to not "waste" the shipping cost already incurred by item 1. All the two-for-one deals we see in every grocery works on a similar principle. You've already paid "full price" for the first chocolate bar so it's tempting to add another one for a small increase in price. Otherwise it feels like you've wasted the potential of purchasing the first bar.
There's a reason for why more or less every online store in the world prices their shipping in bands of weight and/or monetary size (with reductions in shipping cost per item far earlier than FW's normal £250) and not a flat percentage like FW, it's to encourage impulse addons.
Definitely for me as well. If I have to make a small Forgeworld order for whatever reason, I'm usually figuring out if I really need that item for my current project or if I can scrap it to cut down on the shipping tax. Every time, my cart is emptied to the bare bones as the shipping breaks the bank...
Even on the rare occasion my order is enough for free shipping i still always ask i anyone wants to join to avoid shipping. It's common all over for groups to pull an order together so no one pay shipping. Pretty cool to see that regularly happening at our GW store.
The shipping fees have stopped me from impulse buying a lot of the smaller FW kits over the years, things like the Titan Techpriest and Solomon Lok and retinue which I just can't justify by themselves with the shipping.
I do wonder why they went for such an abstract way of shipping, as they always ship it to you the same way: a thin cardboard box that's either too small or just about right with no room to spare and minimal amount of protective materials.
I just can't bring myself to order from them knowing they're pocketing the VAT tax. Makes me feel like a sucker. Irrational, I know, but I'm only human.
Haighus wrote: The shipping fees have stopped me from impulse buying a lot of the smaller FW kits over the years, things like the Titan Techpriest and Solomon Lok and retinue which I just can't justify by themselves with the shipping.
See, for just one item it seems reasonable. Solomon Lok is 22 GBP, so you'd pay, what...2.64 in shipping in the UK? That doesn't seem like a back-breaker even in the Amazon era. But if your order is 150 GBP, you'll pay 18 for shipping in the UK or 22.50(!) ROW, which seems awfully excessive for the probable size and weight we're talking about. It's those big-but-not-huge orders where you really take it on the chin.
Edit: To be clear...I love their products and don't think free or nearly-free shipping is our God-given right as consumers. It just seems odd to me that their shipping price structure discourages those medium-sized orders.
Zywus wrote: Any normal company offers reasonable shipping levels. Say a base of 3-5£ up to a certain level and then decreased shipping the more you order until it's free usually somewhere around £50 to £100).
FW's "brilliant" flat shipping fees actually incentive people to not add a little extra stuff to get up to the next shipping level (unless you're around the £250, and now £125 level). It's incredibly stupid and probably damage their sales more than one might think.
I've twice once ordered just the objects i n your exemple @gorgon: a single sheet of etched brass from FW, and another time just a pack of phobos bolters. With any other mini company out there I'd probably picked up something more whilst I was on the store anyway, to get cheaper shipping. But as it was there was no point in me doing so I purchased nothing else.
In a way it's considerate of them to not tempt us gamers with even more stuff to add to our ever growing pile of unnfinished projects I guess, but it hardly makes a lot of business sense.
Yeah... I'd have to say that's just you. Everyone I have ever conversed with expressed the opposite opinion.
And how would your example damage their sales? You're still buying stuff. The notion that people aren't buying items because they wont get a slightly reduced shipping price, when they are already buying things anyway, seems illogical and uncharacteristic of human shopping behavior.
I work retail, so I know how to sell stuff, and how people buy things. The example you gave might be the way you purchase things, but it definetly is not indicitive of people's shopping habits in mass in my experience.
I feel like you've misunderstood their point, or all the people you've spoken to have a rather strange opinion on it.
The example given damages their sales because their shipping rates discourages you from buying anything more than the item you want, because your shipping prices increase with each item you add. So you either order small orders with relatively cheap shipping, or large orders with free shipping. But because the free shipping threshold is so high, you can't really just add a couple of small items to an order to reach the free shipping, so you just don't order anything more than you need.
Like Gorgon says, it's okay for small orders, and obviously free for large orders, but anything in between just becomes diminishing returns because your shipping goes up as the amount you order does. Most places have a flat shipping rate (element games, as an example, is £2.95 shipping on any order below £80, and free above £80. If I want something from there that's say £50, I'll just pay the £3 postage. If I want something that's ~£70, I'll probably add something to hit the £80 threshold. From FW, if I want something for £70, there's no point adding extra items because it won't get near the threshold and will just increase the shipping costs).
There are reasons why I save up to buy at the 250 level or higher in bursts of purchase, rather than smaller, more steady streams.
Or wait until they do a free shipping thing, but I never do that during the summer, because I need to know when stuff is coming so I can either divert it to a UPS store, or make sure I'm at home to get it. It gets too freakin' hot here to have a bunch of expensive resin sitting out and about for hours.
I no longer buy anything from forge world, because not only is their shipping charges ridiculous, every single one of my forge world orders arrived loose in a box with no protection, and as a result, damaged and broken.
There are other companies offering wold wide free shipping on extremely well packed goods.
Joyboozer wrote: I no longer buy anything from forge world, because not only is their shipping charges ridiculous, every single one of my forge world orders arrived loose in a box with no protection, and as a result, damaged and broken.
There are other companies offering wold wide free shipping on extremely well packed goods.
I never had any problem with my packages. Did you tell FW your package problem ?
@joyboozer: i get that this will be a pain in the arse being up at the right time and probably cost money on the international phone call, but you really should call them and tell them that your stuff arrived damaged and your recommendation for a layer of something protective inside - they will ask you for a photo or two of the damage (presumably so they can assess the the cause/effect angle) and will most likely send you a new one.
I'm not saying that they will send you a new one because i have heard of rare cases when they send just the new part/s.
As for now they will most likely ask you to send the models back. Maybe that's because they started doing that 'quality check'. Which is pretty useless, since I had multiple miscast parts even when the kits were checked.
Joyboozer wrote: I no longer buy anything from forge world, because not only is their shipping charges ridiculous, every single one of my forge world orders arrived loose in a box with no protection, and as a result, damaged and broken.
There are other companies offering wold wide free shipping on extremely well packed goods.
I've had this happen to me as well, and I've made a lot of purchases from FW over the years. You never really know if they're going to carefully package everything, with the most delicate parts in separate bags and the box filled with packing peanuts, or without any form of insulation and everything smashed into bits in one corner of the cardboard box.
However, when I write to them asking for replacements for parts damaged in transport, the parts they send are always nicely insulated and intact. I don't get why they're content with this business model though, sending out replacements has to be more expensive and impractical, than making sure things are properly packaged to begin with. I also don't understand why they have no standardised way of packing their orders.
Lets hope they have rules for them ready as well! Also it's getting to be around that time for the rumored release date of the next Imperial Armour book. I've been holding off on ordering anything else for my Mechanicum until these are out.
Hopefully will stick the rules with them; let me get more games in with the Hoplites I scratch built.
Do have custom rules for them, but they're janky and lack finesse.
commander dante wrote: And im just sitting here waiting for Fires of Cyraxus for Leviathan Dread Carab Culln
Yep. And it just ticked over to September, marking at least a year since the decals I am dying for previewed. So... hope they sneak those into this inbound release too. Sigh.
Wish they would put more heft back behind something not 30k for just a while.
commander dante wrote: And im just sitting here waiting for Fires of Cyraxus for Leviathan Dread Carab Culln
LOTS of people are eagerly awaiting Fire of Cyraxus, just not for that particular reason
But my Chapter of Space Nazis, Led by Mecha-Robot Hitler from Wolfenstien 3D (Im not posting the pics again, everyone got annoyed when i posted them twice)
Unknown primogenitor, but they follow the Codex Astartes to the letter, except for an obsession about purity that leads them to make an increased use of apothecaries, to the point of replacing squad sergeants with them. There are some theories that they are actually from traitor geneseed stock, hence the emphasis on purity and adherence to the Codex to show their loyalty.
Haighus wrote: Unknown primogenitor, but they follow the Codex Astartes to the letter, except for an obsession about purity that leads them to make an increased use of apothecaries, to the point of replacing squad sergeants with them. There are some theories that they are actually from traitor geneseed stock, hence the emphasis on purity and adherence to the Codex to show their loyalty.
Or Loyalist Remnants of the Emperors Children (as they Obsessed about Purity)
Haighus wrote: Unknown primogenitor, but they follow the Codex Astartes to the letter, except for an obsession about purity that leads them to make an increased use of apothecaries, to the point of replacing squad sergeants with them. There are some theories that they are actually from traitor geneseed stock, hence the emphasis on purity and adherence to the Codex to show their loyalty.
Or Loyalist Remnants of the Emperors Children (as they Obsessed about Purity)
CragHack wrote: As for now they will most likely ask you to send the models back. Maybe that's because they started doing that 'quality check'. Which is pretty useless, since I had multiple miscast parts even when the kits were checked.
My last several orders were well packed and cushioned, and the miscast parts on my Glaive, they just had me send them the lot numbers and pictures of the problems, they promptly sent out replacement parts.
The towering God Machines of the Adeptus Titanicus can destroy companies of tanks, and bring fortifications to ruin, but if the enemy can get close enough even a lowly trooper can cause the Titan great harm. That's where the Secutarii Titan Guard come in...
Today you can order the brand new Secutarii Hoplites and Secutarii Peltasts Upgrade Kits. These kits each upgrade a unit of Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii to be powerfully armed warriors of the Mechanicus, dedicated to defending their Titan charges with their advanced weapons and their very lives!
Each kit includes enough components to upgrade ten plastic models, as well as options for the unit Alpha. Order yours today!
That Parabolic Shot rule won't have give some bods a surprise. Particularly lethal in Zone Mortalis games
We use common sense there, weapons like Smart Missiles and those Tyranid projectiles that do not require LOS can't shoot through walls. So, as neat as it sounds, this stuff can't do that either.
BrookM wrote: We use common sense there, weapons like Smart Missiles and those Tyranid projectiles that do not require LOS can't shoot through walls. So, as neat as it sounds, this stuff can't do that either.
Didn't mean shoot through walls, but round bends, hiding in rooms, that kind of stuff...
BrookM wrote: We use common sense there, weapons like Smart Missiles and those Tyranid projectiles that do not require LOS can't shoot through walls. So, as neat as it sounds, this stuff can't do that either.
Didn't mean shoot through walls, but round bends, hiding in rooms, that kind of stuff...
I have I think 27 skitarii still on sprue. I'm thinking a unit of 15 Peltasts (and 5 spare for when I grab another GS: Skitarii box) and 10 Hoplites. Now to wait for another couple paychecks to pay for them, which should give them time to come out with the next IA, hopefully.
Damnn the peltasts are insane. Like, skitarii had already pretty much invalidated storm troopers, but now these guy do the only thing storm troopers still had (ap3 shooting) and do it better... Bit of a shame, though I'm still going to pick up 2 upgrade sets (the are bloody gorgeus.)
"All Secutarii units have the Adeptus Titanicus Faction."
I wonder if this means the AdMech/Tau/Red Scorpion IA is going to have an Adeptus Titanicus army list consisting of compulsory Lords of War and non-compulsory elites.
A bit meh about the fluff though the kits themselves are gorgeous. The original Epic version of the Titan Guard had them as the garrison for the Emperor class Titan, to guard against boarding actions. While they could be disembarked to function like infantry, that wasn't their main point. Bit of a power spiral too in those rules.
Those'd look fantastic guarding Knights and even Ordinatus. Unit1126PLL's Ordinatus Detachment would like pretty sweet with a load of those guarding the War Engines.
The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
jifel wrote: The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
jifel wrote: The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
Regular Skitarii are still pretty competitive without Drop Pods. They're no Eldar but nobody is, and directly hard counter Gladius lists.
jifel wrote: The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
The GWFAQ is still a first draft and unofficial.
They are basically official. They won't really be changing anything rules wise, just cleaning up wording. So get used to these rulings, because they are basically official as is now. Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
That Mechanicus Start Collecting box is looking more tempting now.
On the other hand, can anyone list the name of a third party that makes Skitarii type legs?
Anvil Industries produced human sized bionic legs until quite recently. They are not currently available unfortunately, however I think Anvil is currently working on upgrading the kit with their newer, higher quality sculpting and casting, so they may be re-released in the near future. Worth dropping a question on this page.
I never meant to do anything more with AdMech/Mechanicum than a couple units of rangers with my Krieg, because I like the models, and a Thanatar, again because I like the model, and a couple units for my 30k Thousand Sons, because the book and Khalophis.
But I find myself eyeballing a "get started" box of Skitarii, various Mechanicum stuff, and after the first FW bulletin with the Secutarii appeared, I ordered a bunch of Skitarii legs and torsos/coats.
I guess I am going to be doing AdMech/Mechanicum at some point.
jifel wrote: The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
The GWFAQ is still a first draft and unofficial.
They are basically official. They won't really be changing anything rules wise, just cleaning up wording. So get used to these rulings, because they are basically official as is now. Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
You sound like one of the people who will enforce the FAQs with a Tank/MC heavy army VS an Infantry Army...
jifel wrote: The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
The GWFAQ is still a first draft and unofficial.
They are basically official. They won't really be changing anything rules wise, just cleaning up wording. So get used to these rulings, because they are basically official as is now. Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
You sound like one of the people who will enforce the FAQs with a Tank/MC heavy army VS an Infantry Army...
I sound like someone who follows the rules. My intent is to play the game correctly, not to leverage any advantages.
That Mechanicus Start Collecting box is looking more tempting now.
On the other hand, can anyone list the name of a third party that makes Skitarii type legs?
Anvil Industries produced human sized bionic legs until quite recently. They are not currently available unfortunately, however I think Anvil is currently working on upgrading the kit with their newer, higher quality sculpting and casting, so they may be re-released in the near future. Worth dropping a question on this page.
Don't forget the FAQ. Skitarii won't be able to use drop pods.
Edit: I see that you still believe this is unofficial and won't happen. That is fine. Simply advising based off of the suggested likely end result, based on GW input.
They aren't really better---as you don't get special weapons on these....so no 2 or 3 x plasma/haywire special wpns per squads.
Yes the guys with shields get haywire but only 12 inch range.
As to the the shooty special squad---think they suck compared to the shield guys---the special shot that drops them to RoF 1 needs to be at least STR 5 for it to be useful--and in all honesty make the squad playable compared to the other skitarii options.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
Sunk investment fallacy?
Probably because we've aleady seen at least one change due to feedback, and the sutuation where one FAQ flatly contradicts another?
I get that they may make a rare, single change. But expecting them to change this clearly problematic rule? Doubtful. Skitarii Pods are dead as fried chicken.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
Sunk investment fallacy?
Probably because we've aleady seen at least one change due to feedback, and the sutuation where one FAQ flatly contradicts another?
I get that they may make a rare, single change. But expecting them to change this clearly problematic rule? Doubtful. Skitarii Pods are dead as fried chicken.
Problematic is an opinion, a lot of people are just fine with allies riding in each other's transports.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
Sunk investment fallacy?
Probably because we've aleady seen at least one change due to feedback, and the sutuation where one FAQ flatly contradicts another?
I get that they may make a rare, single change. But expecting them to change this clearly problematic rule? Doubtful. Skitarii Pods are dead as fried chicken.
Problematic is an opinion, a lot of people are just fine with allies riding in each other's transports.
And just as many are not, if not more. Not that it matters, because this is a GW ruling that will stick. I highly doubt they would make that ruling only to go back on it.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Not sure why people always chime in with the unofficial thing.
Sunk investment fallacy?
Probably because we've aleady seen at least one change due to feedback, and the sutuation where one FAQ flatly contradicts another?
I get that they may make a rare, single change. But expecting them to change this clearly problematic rule? Doubtful. Skitarii Pods are dead as fried chicken.
Problematic is an opinion, a lot of people are just fine with allies riding in each other's transports.
And just as many are not, if not more. Not that it matters, because this is a GW ruling that will stick. I highly doubt they would make that ruling only to go back on it.
What, like "Whose turn is it to use the Krak Grenade?"
jifel wrote: The peltasts are pretty cool looking, but sadly I don't see them being used often in game. The fact that they are incompatible with a War Convocation puts a huge dent in how good they are. The shot variety is nice, but in the end they aren't very tough, and the FT pod tactic is now illegal thanks to the GWFAQ
The thing to remember is that these are really meant to go with the whatever new list is coming with he next IA. I'm very hopeful we will get access to both of the mechanicum transports.
The other suprise that I'm most excited about is them being classified as Adeptus Titanicus faction. If I'm not mistaken, there is no way to take a bound skitarii + superheavy army with the exception of an oathsworn knight detachment. Even then though, the SH can't be your warlord. I'm really hoping for a list that accentuates the skitarii role as SH support troops. SOmethign that will let you build a list around a Titan or knight, making it your warlord. It's super fluffy and definitely the way I'd prefer to play skitarii. Grav is great and I love the kastelans but I really like skitarii much more than cult mech.
The Earth Caste have been hard at work, and so have the Forge World Studio. The Tau KX139 Ta’unar Supremacy Armour is getting even more firepower! Take a look…
I hear this incredible weapon will be available soon. If you want to get your hands on it first, then you'd best be at the Warhammer European Open Day coming up on the 1st October in Amsterdam!
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I wouldn't bet on the Secutarii sgts getting 2 wounds, Forgworld doesn't seem to like doing that for some reason. The Shadow Spectre Exarchs are 1 wound each as well, unlike all other Exarchs.
Man, anyone remember when Forge World was all about the Imperial Guard? These days it seems to be mostly Marines and battlesuits, and most of their IG range has in fact been discontinued. I couldn't even tell you what the last Guard 40k release was (i.e. not Solar Auxilia).
All these Tau things are beginning to look quite samey to me. I'd rather see them do a new kind of alien auxiliary or something instead of Yet Another Railgun. But business is business.
Are those missiles? I thought that was the other thing that was disregarded as junk. That looks like a capacitor or something to me.
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This is the first time in ages any FW kit has been made with railguns. Also I can tell the differences quite well, but that is personal opinion and what I like. I can rarely tell space marines apart or chaos marines since they all look the same to me for the most part.
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The stats they gave the terrible downgrade missile system last month has me worried about this guns stats. If it turns out to be junk then I bought and drilling the back of mine for nothing. Also I suspect we'll see another Tau titan soon. It's one of their best selling models. Expect a whole range of them. :( I want my Tau SH Tank and helicopter gunship and auxiliaries.
I thought they were some kind of power cells or something for the gun rather than missiles. I really like the new gun, I think it's my favourite of the 3.
Why do you think I'm magnetizing mine on the back? For this gun. I just hope its worth it. Visually it's the best looking of them. I also thought they were something like that.
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If someone goes to the open day next month try ask them what stats the gun is going to have or they are planning on giving it. It needs to be damn good at allowing it to kill titans. Right now the Ta'unar is great at killing almost everything else but it needs an anti-titan loadout. The missile system stats were so bad its a joke.
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Unless GW put out some new Tau models next year it looks like it will be a FW year. Going to grab a hard copy of Fires of Cyraxus, two Barracuda, two ion cannons, and the Railgun.
The towering God Machines of the Adeptus Titanicus can destroy companies of tanks, and bring fortifications to ruin, but if the enemy can get close enough even a lowly trooper can cause the Titan great harm. That's where the Secutarii Titan Guard come in...
Today you can order the brand new Secutarii Hoplites and Secutarii Peltasts Upgrade Kits. These kits each upgrade a unit of Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii to be powerfully armed warriors of the Mechanicus, dedicated to defending their Titan charges with their advanced weapons and their very lives!
Each kit includes enough components to upgrade ten plastic models, as well as options for the unit Alpha. Order yours today!
The towering God Machines of the Adeptus Titanicus can destroy companies of tanks, and bring fortifications to ruin, but if the enemy can get close enough even a lowly trooper can cause the Titan great harm. That's where the Secutarii Titan Guard come in...
Spoiler:
Today you can order the brand new Secutarii Hoplites and Secutarii Peltasts Upgrade Kits. These kits each upgrade a unit of Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii to be powerfully armed warriors of the Mechanicus, dedicated to defending their Titan charges with their advanced weapons and their very lives!
Spoiler:
Each kit includes enough components to upgrade ten plastic models, as well as options for the unit Alpha. Order yours today!
Anyone know what legio are they supposed to represent?
Really love the green & red paint scheme and looking to buy a warhound
I would guess Cyraxis, IIRC that's a forge world where the next IA book centers around, with tau against the local AdMech and Titan Legion, along with Crimson Scorpions, against Tau.
So far, we have no indication, that I'm aware of, of what the Titan Legion is, nor if their colors are different from those of the Forge World itself.
Almost tempted to model mine like this. Hahah. Or even better have the regular pulse drivers on the back and then the railgun there. Then for good measure replace the head with a hotwheels barracuda.
Gamgee wrote: Almost tempted to model mine like this. Hahah. Or even better have the regular pulse drivers on the back and then the railgun there. Then for good measure replace the head with a hotwheels barracuda.
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CragHack wrote: I've no words how random this release is. Looks awesome though.
Not random at all. It was previewed at their events, most people just forgot about it because there's less interest in scenery than in the latest space marine stuff.
As for the model itself, I like it (and had my eye on it back when it was first previewed). It's not as convenient as the old landing pad scenery they used to make since you have to use a whole 2x2 tile instead of just putting it on your existing table, but it looks good. If/when I get around to making a table I'll probably get a couple. My only concern would be how well the hollow resin holds up under the weight of a Thunderhawk/Marauder/etc, but I suspect it can probably be braced underneath the tile fairly easily.
Yeah, guess so. I thought it was some random piece they kitbashed/released 10+ years ago and pulled it out just so they could make that diorama for Stormbird Anyways, cool stuff.
I know forge world is banging out non stop heresy stuff as its their biggest seller atm but come on guys how about some new guard terrain. Used to be some pretty cool bunkers back in the day.
Still have the desert command bunker in the pile to paint along with two pill boxes.
I'm tempted to get one of these to go with the zone mortalis table. A launch pad would fit in quite well I think.
That's a pretty good idea. It's like £20 cheaper then a 2x2 set of the Mortalis Tiles. So you could buy 3 mortalis sets and this to make a 4x4 Mortalis Board with the landing pad representing a cargo/landing bay of the ship. Get some of the new Imperail Cargo crates for scatter terrain from your preferred discounter. (Or use what ever Scatter terrain you may already own of course.)
Or if you know someone with a Thunderhawk, throw that on their for terrian so it has a use.
Kanluwen wrote: Tau Titan is supposed to be a September release, with the rules coming in the next IA book(reputed to be Tau v. Mechanicus)--and there is no reliable evidence of a Tau codex releasing anytime soon.
As long as it's not the typical Imperial Armour story progression of:
1. Imperium goes to fight/reclaim something.
2. Finds themselves up against a force of xenos!
3. Deus Ex Machina! 4. Total xenos victory.
Still, Forge World doing the Adeptus Mechanicus (rather than the Mechanicum)... that's tempting.
Pleeeeease have some rules for Heresy era units for 40k, pleeeeease...
And yes, according to the fluff some of it is still around. All you'd need to do is leave out Castellax (they're kinda redundant now anyway) and make most of the other units Relics.
Do you know what 8th edition needs? A new FOC slot called ancients or relics or whatever.
I'm tempted to get one of these to go with the zone mortalis table. A launch pad would fit in quite well I think.
That's a pretty good idea. It's like £20 cheaper then a 2x2 set of the Mortalis Tiles. So you could buy 3 mortalis sets and this to make a 4x4 Mortalis Board with the landing pad representing a cargo/landing bay of the ship. Get some of the new Imperail Cargo crates for scatter terrain from your preferred discounter. (Or use what ever Scatter terrain you may already own of course.)
Or if you know someone with a Thunderhawk, throw that on their for terrian so it has a use.
That'd be the plan, I've got a 3'x3' table, so this and a couple more and I'm at 4'x4'.
I do know someone with a thunderhawk as it goes. He's had it maybe five years. Been used once that I'm aware of. I really don't know what people are talking about...
I'm tempted to get one of these to go with the zone mortalis table. A launch pad would fit in quite well I think.
That's a pretty good idea. It's like £20 cheaper then a 2x2 set of the Mortalis Tiles. So you could buy 3 mortalis sets and this to make a 4x4 Mortalis Board with the landing pad representing a cargo/landing bay of the ship. Get some of the new Imperail Cargo crates for scatter terrain from your preferred discounter. (Or use what ever Scatter terrain you may already own of course.)
Or if you know someone with a Thunderhawk, throw that on their for terrian so it has a use.
That'd be the plan, I've got a 3'x3' table, so this and a couple more and I'm at 4'x4'.
I do know someone with a thunderhawk as it goes. He's had it maybe five years. Been used once that I'm aware of. I really don't know what people are talking about...
The pad is a 2x2 Realm of Battle Tile, compared to the 1x1 ZM tiles. If you already have a 3x3 board, Then buying these tile would make you a 5x5 board with what you already own if I understand correctly.
Not quite, 9 1' zm tiles gives you 9 square feet of gaming space. Adding this would add 4 square feet, totalling 13sq'. You need 16sq' to make a 4'x4' table, so I'd need another 3 zm tiles.
I've wanted the urban FWRoB tiles ever since they were released maybe 5 years ago(?), and I've always worried I will be too late, because in my experience, FW often retires items before I get around to purchase them.
So this new landing pad, which is designed to be used with those tiles, is good news to me, because it signals that the urban tiles aren't going out of production yet.
The landing pad is pretty cool, stylistically matches the Castellum stronghold well. Although I'm not sure if a Marauder could use it, do they have VTOL? I had a hard time working out which Imperial Navy craft actually do have VTOL capability other than the Valkyrie family. I'd probably leave a Marauder on the pad if I had one anyway, just so it got some use.
I'm tempted to get one of these to go with the zone mortalis table. A launch pad would fit in quite well I think.
Good thinking! When I saw the landing pad I was pretty miffed as I'm getting fed up waiting on new mortalis tiles and accessories (particularly an overhead walkway, if your listening FW!!) but your idea for an integrated landing pad is food for thought!
Good thinking! When I saw the landing pad I was pretty miffed as I'm getting fed up waiting on new mortalis tiles and accessories (particularly an overhead walkway, if your listening FW!!) but your idea for an integrated landing pad is food for thought!
I thought FW had ended support for zone mortalis, no new terrain or rules.
Good thinking! When I saw the landing pad I was pretty miffed as I'm getting fed up waiting on new mortalis tiles and accessories (particularly an overhead walkway, if your listening FW!!) but your idea for an integrated landing pad is food for thought!
I thought FW had ended support for zone mortalis, no new terrain or rules.
FW still supports Zone Mortalis... Horus Heresy books 1,2, 5 and 6, and Imperial Armour 2 and 4 all have Zone Mortalis rules. Atleast two of those were released in the last year. The lack of ZM model support is likely due to a combination of FW having moved into a new larger production facility and reworking many older model's molds to work with their new equipment and the fact that the ZM line is already pretty fleshed out.
Haighus wrote: The landing pad is pretty cool, stylistically matches the Castellum stronghold well. Although I'm not sure if a Marauder could use it, do they have VTOL? I had a hard time working out which Imperial Navy craft actually do have VTOL capability other than the Valkyrie family. I'd probably leave a Marauder on the pad if I had one anyway, just so it got some use.
According to Double Eagle, the Thunderbolt does (at least, it can launch from a launch rail like a Doodlebug), and the miniature has downward-pointing thrust nozzles. The Marauder has a couple of small downward-pointing thrusters (there's a view from underneath on the website), but they don't look enough to get it off the ground (although, anti-grav ...). To me, it looks like a STOL aeroplane, not VTOL.
Having said that, the Aeronautica Imperialis airfield diorama might suggest otherwise.
All of the Imperial aircraft are VTOL, even if it doesn't make much sense from a realism point of view. They all have skids for landing gear instead of wheels, so a rolling takeoff would be impossible. The obvious conclusion, when there aren't any engines in the appropriate place, is that they have some level of anti-gravity lift that can get them into the air.
Good thinking! When I saw the landing pad I was pretty miffed as I'm getting fed up waiting on new mortalis tiles and accessories (particularly an overhead walkway, if your listening FW!!) but your idea for an integrated landing pad is food for thought!
I thought FW had ended support for zone mortalis, no new terrain or rules.
FW still supports Zone Mortalis... Horus Heresy books 1,2, 5 and 6, and Imperial Armour 2 and 4 all have Zone Mortalis rules. Atleast two of those were released in the last year. The lack of ZM model support is likely due to a combination of FW having moved into a new larger production facility and reworking many older model's molds to work with their new equipment and the fact that the ZM line is already pretty fleshed out.
I really hope they haven't stopped supporting ZM. It's accessories I really would like. Anyone any ideas for some third party ideas?
Have we heard anything more about the new knight yet apart from its name?
Been holding off adding another knight to my army for a while now so hoping they hurry up with it.
Hope so, been hanging on for that, the macroacrid and the drone for a while now.
Had £400 set aside simply for the releases.
Just seems like it's taking forever now lol.
Getting so bad I've nearly caught up painting my mechanicum.
So need a paint pile again.
Jackal wrote: Hope so, been hanging on for that, the macroacrid and the drone for a while now.
Had £400 set aside simply for the releases.
Just seems like it's taking forever now lol.
Getting so bad I've nearly caught up painting my mechanicum.
So need a paint pile again.
Given they bumped the Porphywotsit, the new Knight, up in size to what looks to be near enough Warhound scale, you'll probably need to put aside more cash.
That decision still pisses me off tbh, something slightly between plastic Knight and Cerastus scale actually has a reasonable chance of seeing the table every now and again, but I'm not spending that much on a model that'll spend 364 days a year gathering dust on a shelf until the annual Apocalypse game at the local club.
Jackal wrote: Hope so, been hanging on for that, the macroacrid and the drone for a while now.
Had £400 set aside simply for the releases.
Just seems like it's taking forever now lol.
Getting so bad I've nearly caught up painting my mechanicum.
So need a paint pile again.
Given they bumped the Porphywotsit, the new Knight, up in size to what looks to be near enough Warhound scale, you'll probably need to put aside more cash.
That decision still pisses me off tbh, something slightly between plastic Knight and Cerastus scale actually has a reasonable chance of seeing the table every now and again, but I'm not spending that much on a model that'll spend 364 days a year gathering dust on a shelf until the annual Apocalypse game at the local club.
I agree. I understand their rationale, but regardless of how it looks in epic scale it's too difficult to justify in a more common game format... and we're still left with the need of some intermediate sized knight between cerastus and paladin.
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but the Landing Pad is actually featured in the catalogue for 2016, alongside a lot of stuff they've since retired. I'm assuming the 2016 catalogue was prepared almost a year ago, so that certainly implies it has been planned for a long time, but then the Mastodon is also featured in the catalogue.
Zingraff wrote: Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but the Landing Pad is actually featured in the catalogue for 2016, alongside a lot of stuff they've since retired. I'm assuming the 2016 catalogue was prepared almost a year ago, so that certainly implies it has been planned for a long time, but then the Mastodon is also featured in the catalogue.
Yyeah, I was kinda thinking the same. While they are definitely cool, I would have loved to see Questoris ones too. Heck, I just might even assemble a regular knight head and compare it to Cerastus one, to see if i could just slap a magnet somewhere.
You're right, we need to do this good and proper. I'll start collecting signatures and present those to any devs present, that should hammer things home.
Originally they were saying they'd rerelease the Cerastus Knights with these heads and the Atrapos' armour so players could have fully Mechanicum versions... I can't say I want just a head.
That's just Khorne moulding his followers to his taste!
