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Post by: cincydooley
Tannhauser42 wrote:I can do that when I get home from work tonight. I did glue her together last night. Shall I place the ruler vertically or horizontally? 
Lets throw all caution to the wind and do it diagonally!
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Post by: Wehrkind
Definitely not an after production mark; those are ridges in the metal. I had thought maybe they got a finger print in the putty and didn't notice. I've done that myself a few times
End of the world? No. It is at least in a spot that is easy to clean.
A little sloppy for the price? Yea, it is. Just goes to show the difficulties in doing a huge number of models all at once. Some things are going to get missed.
I can't spot it on the resin one, however.
Come on guys.. that is soooo minimal. No one except the top 5 painters will notice this after priming, 4-10 coats and varnish.
You might be underestimating the role of texture in painting. I have stripped and reprimed models because of a fuzzy prime job, because you really see it in the final result. That sort of texture definitely needs to be cleaned up if you want to have a good paint job on it.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
I think it might also be someone's thumb print on the model, you know, oil from the skin, or a thumbprint in the mold release. my resin one is smooth.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Before I take the scale pics, I'll also do a quick prime and ink on the model to see if the lines will still show.
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Post by: BrookM
Tannhauser42 wrote:Before I take the scale pics, I'll also do a quick prime and ink on the model to see if the lines will still show.
You are a hero to us all. I really appreciate you doing this.
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Post by: Desubot
So how long till retail...
Do want me some soul weavers
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Post by: BrookM
They still got two waves and a digital art book to go.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
OK, picture time. Sorry for the delay, got stuck doing family stuff after I got home from work. First up, we have a scale picture. Anrakyr, a Space Marine, and Blondie. With a ruler that has *gasp* both inches and centimeters on it! Yes, she stands taller than the Space Marine, but GW tends to sculpt many of their space marine models in a near squatting position, it seems, whereas Blondie is standing nearly straight. Second, as suggested, we throw caution to the wind and place the ruler diagonally, along with a WIP assault marine on a tall scenic base and a rocking Noise Marine for coolness. Finally, the "painted" closeup of Blondie. Just a quick brush on of Vallejo white primer with some Army Painter Dark Tone Ink. The lines are still visible, although, with the model in hand, I have to look really close with just the right light angle to see them. Whether or not additional layers of paint would completely fill them in, I do not know. Also, I have no idea why the picture is sideways. It was upright on my phone and when I edited it in MS Paint, but it uploaded to Dakka sideways. Regardless, you can still see what you're wanting to see from it. As a point of reference, on when I hold the model up to the picture on my computer screen, the model is as tall as the boot in the picture.
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Post by: silent25
Tannhauser42 wrote:
Finally, the "painted" closeup of Blondie. Just a quick brush on of Vallejo white primer with some Army Painter Dark Tone Ink. The lines are still visible, although, with the model in hand, I have to look really close with just the right light angle to see them. Whether or not additional layers of paint would completely fill them in, I do not know. Also, I have no idea why the picture is sideways. It was upright on my phone and when I edited it in MS Paint, but it uploaded to Dakka sideways. Regardless, you can still see what you're wanting to see from it. As a point of reference, on when I hold the model up to the picture on my computer screen, the model is as tall as the boot in the picture.
Exalted for effort! Thanks for going through this and posting it. Looking at the picture. The lines are limited to only that corner area. This hopefully means the figures went through a post printing clean-up and that was just a missed spot. Was not looking forward to the prospect of having to smooth down all surfaces.
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Post by: Haljin
Cool stuff, thanks!
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Post by: Yodhrin
Thank you Tannhauser42 that's spot-on. Looks like the heroines in the most upright poses are damn near exactly 32mm to the eyes, so given RH's stylistic choice of "leggy supermodel" it should be pretty easy to bring them down to under 32mm total height so they fit right in with more upright GW stuff, without making them look deformed.
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Post by: Ouze
From Tann's last image, it definitely looks more like a fingerprint left on the master than stepping marks. Although, if they were printed laying down as speculated, it would also account for curvy stepping marks.
Either way, kind of sloppy but eh, not a big problem and maybe limited to just this one spot on this one mini.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Her crotch is literally at chest height on the Space Marine. I see slash fic being written as I type...
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Easy enough to paint that blemish up as a rough patch of fabric or use some filler. Interested to see how many minis have small issues like that one. Not a biggie over all and I am so far extremely pleased with overall quality. Now to wait till wave 3 ships.
*sob*
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Post by: prankster
So, pick up my wave one stuff earlier. Haven't had a good look through to spot any other issues. Though I can confirm that the ridges on OSB's cloak are present on the metal version I received.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Just did some random comparisons to other minis I had lying around on my desk. Blondie lines up perfectly with my Tartaros-pattern teminators (eyes are at the same level, and the termies are in the usual legs spread position). She stands just as tall as my Eisenkern Stormtroopers, who are also standing tall rather than in a near squatting position. You'll note in the pictures that Anrakyr is taller than she is, and he is pretty much standing straight. My Obyron model is the same, she comes up to his chin.
Busting out the tape measure, she is 32mm to the eyes. The Space Marine is 28mm to his eyes, but 32mm to the top of his head. So, GW artificially shortens their marines to 28mm scale by spreading their legs out to the edges of the base. I dug out a marine model that is standing straight (one of the old masters of the chapter, the one with the hammer), and he is 32mm to the eyes.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
There's a lot of impatient people in those KS comments.
If 3/4 of the people were wave shipping of drop shipping, they'd have needed to have shipping out 68 packages a day to be done in a month. And people thought I was nuts thinking they were probably shipping only about 30 packages a day.
We'll see in a month, eh?
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Post by: prankster
Has a bit more time to look at these now. Can't find any obvious defects on the few heroines I did pick. The two soul wavers look ok, though Tarja is likely going to need a little filling where her front leg joins on. The only issue I've noticed so far (out of ~40 figures) is that one of my copies of Natasha suffered from mould slip. It's not a major slip, and most of the line looks to be out of sight when gaming. The other two look to be ok, from casual inspection anyway.
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Post by: Krinsath
It's good to hear that the final product is mostly good except for the expected nits one would find in any such product line. Hopefully things go a bit smoother for the rest of the waves.
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Post by: cincydooley
Ouze wrote:From Tann's last image, it definitely looks more like a fingerprint left on the master than stepping marks. Although, if they were printed laying down as speculated, it would also account for curvy stepping marks.
Either way, kind of sloppy but eh, not a big problem and maybe limited to just this one spot on this one mini.
Agreed. It does surprise me a it because, despite all their other ridiculousness, they're definitely sticklers about their quality. I imagine it'll be something that can be sanded down fairly easily.
Still glad that I didn't back because of their shenanigans, but the photos are definitely pushing me towards picking a few models up in the future.
Also, it never ceases to amaze me how much "better" some of the FW marines look than the plastic squatty ones.
Thanks, Tann!!
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Post by: Jimsolo
cincydooley wrote:
Also, it never ceases to amaze me how much "better" some of the FW marines look than the plastic squatty ones.
Yeah, but the Noise Marine is the coolest model there, Blondie included.
But seriously, thanks for posting these miniatures, Tannhauser!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Woohoo, it is real, I just got mine.
A quick once-over shows warpage to the guns on Blondie and Noctis and that fingerprint (all resin here). I'll grab some pics when I get home.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I have mine.... I think I am two short... need to double check they didn't fall out of the box when I checked them at work earlier (unlikely, but I want to check before I send RH a email about it) but apart from that very happy.
Almost got them all together, some will need some green stuff work on gaps, only a couple mind, and Krabbenhoff was a nightmare.. hehe, only one of the banner's that was not a solid banner attached to the carrier.
Will share some pics once done later.
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Took my pics
First Wave
Jailbirds
Iron Empire
Kurganova's
Comparison Shots
Free mats ... yay!
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Post by: RoninXiC
Me gusta mucho
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Post by: Buzzsaw
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I have mine.... I think I am two short... need to double check they didn't fall out of the box when I checked them at work earlier (unlikely, but I want to check before I send RH a email about it) but apart from that very happy.
Almost got them all together, some will need some green stuff work on gaps, only a couple mind, and Krabbenhoff was a nightmare.. hehe, only one of the banner's that was not a solid banner attached to the carrier.
Will share some pics once done later.
...
Aww, what's the deal with Krabby? I'm really looking forward to her...
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Post by: BrookM
It could very well be a case of "cool mini, but a pain to properly assemble"
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Oh she's amazing.. but punky and the Kurganova banner bearers basically came as one piece body and banner, head and arm. With Vera, she had body and lower half of the banner, put the top half with the flag... in metal was a separate piece. So not impossible.. but it was a 'fun' fifteen minutes convincing it to glue. Wasn't confident enough to pin something that fragile.
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Post by: BrookM
That's a shame, that most definitely falls under the "cool mini, but a pain to properly assemble" category, a bit like some of those Infinity models, lovely stuff, but such a pain to stick together.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Maybe that would have been a more proper purchase in resin?
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Post by: BrookM
It would still be fragile though, which makes me wonder how hard it would be to properly pin.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Bit later than stated, but here's the pics....all as unpackaged, no clean up.
Cruz and Driscilla, unfortunately quite an egregious mould line on Cruz:
Bernadette and Blondie - slight warp to Blondie's gun as seen already, and some miscasting on one of her power lines, just a bit of flash on Bernadette.
Hilda and Natasha - Lot of flash on Natasha, all else looks good.
Lulu and the mascots - faint mould line down the front of Jinx, no warping to the Lulu's "dart-gun" though.
Mortaria - some warping on the gun, and a hefty mould line on one leg:
And a couple of the all-important scale shots...
Dark Age, Judge Dredd and a GW Cadian
Maxmini, Malifaux and a GW termie.
The warped guns I half expected in resin, but not happy with the mould line on Cruz.
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Post by: BrookM
Ouch, right across the eye even!
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Post by: Wehrkind
Oi, yea, that mold line should have consigned that mini to the seconds bin :(
Otherwise, looking pretty decent!
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Post by: BrookM
Agreed, aside from that one this is quite on the par with the resin offerings of other companies IMHO.
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Post by: -iPaint-
Definitely happy I made the decision to go with metal for everything. Hopefully the troops will have better castings.
~iPaint
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Post by: miniholic
Ouch is that quality bad! Even GW's failcast or Forgeworld "Emmentaler cheese" resin looks much better.
Now I'm really down, as I took all the heroines in resin. What a fool I've been to trust RH promisse of uncompromising quality.
As iPaint already wrote I can only hope that the troops are cast in a better quality.
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Post by: Bullockist
I can't see the issues but as always if it's offered in metal, i'll take it in metal
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Main reason I took metal heroes, was concerns of bending in the weapons.
Oh and good to see Natasha and butterfly Lulu... those are the two I am currently outstanding on... still waiting for a reply from Raging at the moment, so not sure what the response will be. Although I did say I'm happy for them to come with the 2nd wave.
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Post by: Haljin
Oh my god, I got a shipping notice
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Post by: RiTides
That one mold line is bad. Aside from that, though, the issues seem similar to most resin models- I've got a set of Mierce models here with way more flash, and some warping. Nature of the material and will usually require some working with. Overall, I think those look quite good, though.
Thanks for the thorough pics, monkeytroll!
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
These are looking pretty damn good. No serious miscasts to date, just the occasional mold line and some flash. Probably some of the better resins I've seen, even the forge world I've bought had more issues so far from what everyone's shown us.
Monkey have you considered contacting RH about that one bad line? Be interesting to test their CS.
Regretting not getting Mortaria now, those lines on that mini are sick!
Further thought on the cool mini, pain to assemble note... I am now terrified of the tech priestess mini and I'm glad I got her in resin instead of metal
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Post by: Ouze
Now I'm sorta worried again, though mine are all metal. That latter one has some pretty visible stepping lines.
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Post by: Alpharius
That mold line through a face/eye?
Ouch!
Still, the rest look OK, and hopefully that one model in particular was a 'mistake' or gets fixed ASAP.
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Post by: Redbeard
For those who are saying they're not worried about mold lines because they ordered in metal, I'm curious - have you never seen mold lines on metal models?
I've generally found the flaws in white-metal to happen with roughly the same frequency as the flaws in resin, but resin is much easier to work with. I can use an exacto to carefully remove mold lines in resin. Metal, I really only have success with files, and there are some areas that you can't easily get a file to.
Currently working on a large batch of metal vostroyans, and while most of them are good, those that aren't are far harder to clean up than their resin or plastic counterparts.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Redbeard wrote:For those who are saying they're not worried about mold lines because they ordered in metal, I'm curious - have you never seen mold lines on metal models?
I've generally found the flaws in white-metal to happen with roughly the same frequency as the flaws in resin, but resin is much easier to work with. I can use an exacto to carefully remove mold lines in resin. Metal, I really only have success with files, and there are some areas that you can't easily get a file to.
Currently working on a large batch of metal vostroyans, and while most of them are good, those that aren't are far harder to clean up than their resin or plastic counterparts.
From what I've bought, providing the caster is competent, metal models only tend to get mould lines as bad as those above once the moulds have been heavily used and are beginning to degrade. However, I don't think Nox's leg is a mould line so much as a mould slip, which is a caster competence issue, and the problem with Cruz isn't the material, it's that RH were daft enough to design the model such that the mould split was going right down the face through one of the eyes. So yeah, I don't think choosing the metal option will make any difference in either case.
Frankly I'd be sending that Cruz back - cleaning mould lines is a normal part of modelling miniatures, having to resculpt half the model's face afterwards is not.
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Post by: timd
Looks like shipment to drop ship locations is starting. Received an email notice that my order has shipped to my drop ship location.
"Dear xxx,
Thank you for making your Rewards Selection at The Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter!
We wanted to let you know that we have sent you a shipment (#108502) (or part of it) via La Poste (the French postal service), on 7/25/2014.
It contains all the minis that are available as of today.
(If your Rewards Selection includes other items, they will be shipped in the next Wave of shipments.)
SHIPPED TO:
xxx
TRACKING YOUR SHIPMENT
Your tracking number is xxx
To track your order, simply copy this tracking number and paste it in the big search box in the middle of this page (French Postal Service) and click on Search."
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Post by: monkeytroll
Yeah, Cruz is the only one I'm unhappy with, I have sent a pic to RH, I'll let you know what they say.
I went for resin as I knew I'd be cutting and chopping, and knew the trade off would be that there might be a bit of warping on some thin parts, apart from Cruz I don't have any real issues with these.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Question for you guys: how long before I email them because it's been a while that shipping has started and I got zilch?
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Post by: BrookM
I thought you were at the bottom of the pile?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well Haljin only seemed to get his notice today from his comment above, so I'm guessing they're still working their way through 'The List'.
And just had a reply saying they'll be shipping me a replacement Cruz on Monday. I make that 10:30 pm on a Friday night and they're replying to CS queries....they do seem to be improving their communications
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Post by: Ouze
Redbeard wrote:For those who are saying they're not worried about mold lines because they ordered in metal, I'm curious - have you never seen mold lines on metal models?
I'm curious. Do you truly not realize how condescending and passive aggressive all of your posts in this thread have become of late? I mean, filter by thread on your name, and it's nearly an unbroken string of roundabout snipes at the other posters at this point. Seriously re-read that with unbiased eyes, perhaps you really don't realize it.
I have seen mold lines on metal models before, yes*; but since it's going to be a totally different mold I'm hoping they are less severe (or at least less badly sited); at this point my concern is somewhat more with the totally visible stepping marks.
Look at the upper (back) leg and thigh of the second model I quoted earlier, it's pretty bad.
*although none as severe as pictured.
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Post by: Redbeard
Ouze wrote:
I'm curious. Do you truly not realize how condescending and passive aggressive all of your posts in this thread have become of late?
Of late? I've posted exactly twice in the last month. Once was reasonable advice to file off the accidental fingerprint mark on blondies cape.
I mean, filter by thread on your name,
Do you do this with all the posters, or do you just have a crush on me?
and it's nearly an unbroken string of roundabout snipes at the other posters at this point.
Yeah, a little over a month ago, there was a huge period of whining, where near everyone was crying about how they'd never get their models and that the company wasn't to be trusted at all, and a couple of us, perhaps with more experience with kickstarter, were involved in quite a bit of back and forth.
*although none as severe as pictured.
I can only imagine that you've little experience with metal models. I could find far more egregious examples of mold lines on the metal vostroyans I'm working on at the moment than shown in that picture. It happens, sometimes you get a bad one. We haven't even had a chance to see if they'll fix it for the guy who got that and that one bad item is getting all the attention. Is it any wonder that people posting in this thread appear negative - there's more negativity in this thread than any other I'm a part of.
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Post by: Ouze
Well, my point is well proven.
Anyway, these scale shots you guys have been posting are really useful, thanks for doing that.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Redbeard, are you literally incapable of posting without being condescending and passive-aggressive?
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Post by: Redbeard
I don't know Yod, why don't you filter on my name and read back through the posts I made like Ouze did. I'll think you'll find that I only get condescending when confronted with insufferable whining.
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Post by: Buzzsaw
Yodhrin wrote:Redbeard, are you literally incapable of posting without being condescending and passive-aggressive?
I don't want to toot my own horn... so I won't, as it was Wehrkind that has the definitive post on arguing with Redbeard. Moving on.
With regards to shipping, after something in the way of shenanigans I have received my own shipping notice. Anyone in the US, can you say how long from shipping notice it was for you to receive your girls? I am traveling in the not too distant future and wondering if I need to make arraignments.
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Post by: -iPaint-
Buzzsaw wrote:With regards to shipping, after something in the way of shenanigans I have received my own shipping notice. Anyone in the US, can you say how long from shipping notice it was for you to receive your girls? I am traveling in the not too distant future and wondering if I need to make arraignments.
You can send em my way, I won't be going anywhere
No?
Worth a shot.
~iPaint
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Post by: Jimsolo
I just got my notice today, I will be happy to provide an up-to-the-minute report on when they show up.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I got a message about my split shipping yesterday and contained within it was this bit
We are going to receive several new more minis in 2 weeks, which represent part of Wave 2. They are:
Aaqila (KST)
Arthemisia (IE)
Snow Ivanka (KST)
Karmina Noxx (KST)
Doctor Von X (IE)
Krüger (IE)
Severina Madsen (IE)
Katrina Zerga (KST)
Heleria Drakkenfeld (IE)
Lady Sigrith (IE)
… and maybe Drakkan (IE)
so those doing only the already done stuff (see your order) and the above minis,
and those who chose 2 or 3 waves of shipping
should be seeing more deliveries start up soon
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Sigh... hopefully it's only three waves. *looks off into the middle distance wistfully*
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Post by: RoninXiC
If that is ALL to wave 2... wave 3 will be massive. All bikers, trikes, troops, special troops, mechs etc are wave 3?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I thought all troops and heroines were the two first waves, and every uber stretch goals would be wave 3. Automatically Appended Next Post: Although at this point, I might as well get Wave 1 and 2 together, so even if wave 3 holds the troops, I'd be ok.
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Post by: BrookM
Well, if the goings of the first wave are of any indication, it might at long last end well?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
If it takes them 2 months to ship each wave, we might still need popcorn for a while.
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Post by: BrookM
We'll see soon enough I suppose.
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Post by: Erzanj
RoninXiC wrote:If that is ALL to wave 2... wave 3 will be massive. All bikers, trikes, troops, special troops, mechs etc are wave 3?
I got the same e-mail as Orlando, and it says that all the troops will be part of Wave 2.
OPTION 3: Ship when Wave 2 (which will include all the Troops) is ready. As mentioned in Update #89, this will not be before the end of summer, if all goes well.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
If all goes well and Raging Heroes are an oxymoron.
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Post by: BrookM
I uh..
Damn, it's been a long day. I'm starting to become reasonable again.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Ok, so, word from them is all packages from Wave 1 have gone out(well, will have Monday), and everyone who paid for 2 wave shipping, carefully purchasing no uber-stretch goals and later additions, are shafted.
Because so far as we know, Wave 2 is 11 extra miniatures. I asked for confirmation, but they have not responded thus far to anyone asking.
I have a feeling they are going to drag those troop boxes until the last wave, which so far I can't see them finishing in three waves.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Those 11 minis are part of the 2nd Wave I thought they said. Not the bulk of it.
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Post by: BrookM
Indeed, that's what I got from the last few scattered messages: Troops and those other boxes, plus a few extra characters.
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Post by: Alpharius
Have any of the updates mentioned the game system they're working on too?
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Post by: BrookM
I'd rather they focus on delivery of the goods first and expand their franchise later.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
KalashnikovMarine wrote:Those 11 minis are part of the 2nd Wave I thought they said. Not the bulk of it.
BrookM wrote:Indeed, that's what I got from the last few scattered messages: Troops and those other boxes, plus a few extra characters.
I agree, and that is what the updates say, but they are offering people to wait 2 weeks for them to get those extra minis in a wave shipment... which sounds like opening the door to much more confusion later on. And if the plan of Wave 1 as we know it, Wave 2 the rest of metal heroines + troops boxes, then Wave 3 resin heroines and uber stretches still held water, this would be a non-issue right now for the majority of us.
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Post by: BrookM
I've already given up on Wolfenstein being part of wave 2, she's still not done as far as we know right now.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Here is a box, inside of it is some scultping clay, randomly arranged and a few scultping tools. Until you open it, there might or might not be a finished Wolfenstein.
Shrodinger's miniature.
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Post by: Alpharius
Alpharius wrote:Have any of the updates mentioned the game system they're working on too?
BrookM wrote:I'd rather they focus on delivery of the goods first and expand their franchise later.
So I guess that's a 'No' then?
They haven't mentioned the game system rules lately?
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Post by: BrookM
I like to think they've already done the digital sculpt at the very least.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Alpharius wrote:Alpharius wrote:Have any of the updates mentioned the game system they're working on too?
BrookM wrote:I'd rather they focus on delivery of the goods first and expand their franchise later.
So I guess that's a 'No' then?
They haven't mentioned the game system rules lately?
That is indeed a "no." Because they also seem to be only able to do one thing at once, I prefer it that way.
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Post by: BrookM
Aaaaaaand if you think miniature design is a tough cookie, imagine designing rules, especially when clinging to a super-secret workflow and in all likeliness having no prior experience in rule writing.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I wouldn't dismiss European game design though. There is some sort of juju in the water on your side of the pond.
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Post by: BrookM
Any non- UK companies I should look to for inspiration? Not counting Rackham!
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Post by: miniholic
Got my parcel today. Postman saw me and gave it to me while I was refueling the car.
It seems that I got the same miniatures as monkeytroll. :(
Same casting errors as with his minis. Cruz beeing the worst.
Still Hilda has a problem with the coat. There is some black rubber still attached to the outmost parts of it
and it is raised about 0.5mm compared to the rest of the coat.
But I saw that I'm missing the bare head of Hilda. No probs since I wanted to use the helmeted one anyways.
Best and flawless is Tanja and also a nice surprise as it looks way better than in the pics I've seen before ordering.
Edit:
Just noticed that Joko doesn't seem to be in the same size as the other minis.
Also she isn't standing upright she is as tall as the others and her body seems oversized compared to the others.
But it's nevertheless a "great" mini.
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Post by: Haljin
miniholic wrote:
Still Hilda has a problem with the coat. There is some black rubber still attached to the outmost parts of it
and it is raised about 0.5mm compared to the rest of the coat.
Wait what? You got part of the mould? o.O
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Post by: BrookM
That's something I've had happen with quite a few Forge World Elysians.
So much for that vaunted quality control then?
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Post by: miniholic
@Haljin: Jup, Looks like and on Natasha too. :/
@BrookM: Quality control is performed by Benoit and Mireille personally  :
Benoit: A' zis is going to Germany. It'z got to be purrrfect!
- bins all the miniatures -
Mireille: Wait mon Cher! Ze name is italian!
- Benoit takes them out of the bin and puts them into the box -
Benoit: Allors zey are purrrfect!
RH: Our QC is as individual as you TM
And thus Rh has also invented the personalised QC which they will adhere rigorously to for the benefit of all of us!
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Post by: BrookM
Hmmm, this..
or this..
comes to mind when reading that situation.
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Post by: monkeytroll
And now I'm going to be very interested to see how my replacement Cruz turns out........
Miniholic, have you let them know your issues?
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Post by: miniholic
Nope.
Am going to work a bit on Cruz and then paint a big fresh scar across her face. Hope she won't mind.
Jokes apart, I look at it as a challenge.
But I so dearly hope that the troops boxes are faultless. Otherwise I will have to contact them. Automatically Appended Next Post: BrookM wrote:Hmmm, this..
or this..
comes to mind when reading that situation. 
LOL
Brook I rather take the great display of our italian cars! Yay coolness reigns! Who cares for quality!
Gee! I see what you did there!
RH and us have something in comon. I shouldn't be that harsh with them, should I.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Just up on Facebook
See how we blasted the Post Office last week All dropship first wave now in the mail ! #TheTGG
(and gosh that does look like a pretty substantial amount of product)
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Post by: BrookM
Especially amazed by the amount of large boxes, congrats to the people whose drop ship locations did get a healthy amount of people to sign up!
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Post by: Haljin
Mine had 9 people. Although considering how small the first wave is, that must be a lot more people?
Wonder what wave 2 with troops will be like..
Anyway, seems my package is in Denmark already, so I might be able to pick them up tomorrow.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Got to "talk" with "Ana" (I got a package deal on quotation marks) yesterday.
Essentially, if my 2 waves get split into three, then I can pay for an extra wave of shipping. But otherwise Wave 1 should leave this week.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Got my shipping email, all...two of my wave 1 minis are on the way! Yay, I s'pose, now I get all the excitement of waiting to see if wave 2 actually does contain all my remaining selections, or if I'll finally have the female members of my Inq28 warbands just in time for Christmas 2015.
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Post by: BrookM
I'm checking their Tumblr daily now in the hopes of catching a glimpse of any progress on Wolfenstein.
So far..
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Hope is the denial of reality.
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Post by: RiTides
Seems like they're following through on this decently well, in the end, right? Entertaining gifs aside
Obviously tons of room to improve on the communication front, but if they deliver, I'd much rather have it that way than the reverse!
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Post by: BrookM
At this stage they can't really drop the ball now.
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Post by: -iPaint-
Email confirmation for Wave 1 reached in CO, USA, so we'll see how long the shipping time takes. My guess is mid-August.
~iPaint
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
iPaint, I'm in Denver, you?
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Post by: -iPaint-
Superior.
~iPaint
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Post by: migooo
I've not had a single notification, I'm concerned that ill just have to wait for everything till wave 3
no worries
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Post by: Haljin
Pictures for the picture god
http://imgur.com/a/1zmZb
The box was surprisingly tiny, I cannot imagine how many people must've been in the drop ships with those huge boxes.
Anyway, the first impression was flash attack on one of the Yagas.But other than that it seems everything is in order. If you'd like closeups of some specific model just let me know. I am going 100% resin, since they will all be properly Imperialised.
Hm, after closer look the staves of the Yagas are a bit.. uh... un-straight? After all a masterpiece cannot be "bent".
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Post by: BrookM
Thanks!
The flash doesn't look too bothersome thankfully, how about mold-lines though?
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Post by: Haljin
BrookM wrote:Thanks!
The flash doesn't look too bothersome thankfully, how about mold-lines though?
No, the flash is funny, but should be no problem.
I didn't even see the mould lines. Maybe after I start assembling them properly. So that's all good. The only problem I have is the amount of support those have. With Natasha I'm not really sure what is part of the mini and what isn't. I guess it's just me though, since I assumed she has an antenna on her backpack and she doesn't seem to have one.
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Post by: BrookM
Ah yes, the danger of having a lot of vents on a model. Been there!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
migooo wrote:I've not had a single notification, I'm concerned that ill just have to wait for everything till wave 3 no worries If you paid for 1 wave of shipping you'll have to wait till everything is done If you paid for 2 waves you'll (probably) have had an email offering a first shipment of not all of the wave 2 stuff 2-3 weeks time, or to wait till the end of the summer for all of them + wait till the end for the rest if you paid for 3 waves you your first stuff should have shipped + you should have have the wave 2 offer above + wait till the end for the rest (modified of course by what you actually ordered)
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Post by: RiTides
Cheers for the pics, Haljin! They look pretty good  except for the flash on that one model, but then again I've got a lot of flash on the Mierce models I just received, too.
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Post by: migooo
I went for troop boxes, plus the wolves in the end I'm actually not too sure
Oh well it will be a surprise
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
There were no troop boxes in Wave 1, migooo, so you shouldn't expect anything so soon anyway. The wolves... I think they'll be along with Wave 3.
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Post by: migooo
Seems digging out everything but one is wave 3. But I will post pictures when I get something
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
In 2016?
I got stuff from the first 2 waves exclusively, and still haven't gotten my notification, even though it's been almost a week we cleared up my situation.
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Post by: BrookM
Still nothing? I feel for you.
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Post by: migooo
Mathieu Raymond wrote:In 2016?
I got stuff from the first 2 waves exclusively, and still haven't gotten my notification, even though it's been almost a week we cleared up my situation.
Look at the optimist here .... 2016 .... HA!
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Post by: BrookM
I'm going to say early to mid 2015 for the final stuff. Come at me brah!
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Post by: migooo
BrookM wrote:I'm going to say early to mid 2015 for the final stuff. Come at my brah!
I'm guessing that the new KS will start at least before then . Oh the humanity...
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Post by: BrookM
They know there are plenty of people out there who will back regardless of past experiences.
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Post by: migooo
BrookM wrote:They know there are plenty of people out there who will back regardless of past experiences.
And honestly i'll probably back it. I like their stuff, I just think they need to set realistic goals
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Post by: BrookM
migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:They know there are plenty of people out there who will back regardless of past experiences.
And honestly i'll probably back it. I like their stuff, I just think they need to set realistic goals
That's like asking for a unicorn.
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Post by: migooo
BrookM wrote:migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:They know there are plenty of people out there who will back regardless of past experiences.
And honestly i'll probably back it. I like their stuff, I just think they need to set realistic goals
That's like asking for a unicorn.
Yeah having a Rhino in the house would cause problems.
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Post by: Buzzsaw
Buzzsaw wrote:With regards to shipping, after something in the way of shenanigans I have received my own shipping notice. Anyone in the US, can you say how long from shipping notice it was for you to receive your girls? I am traveling in the not too distant future and wondering if I need to make arraignments.
Just wanted to chime in: I received my stuff about Thursday of last week, so... about a week for shipping?
The quality is very good. I'll try and get some shots up, but my figures were (mercifully) lacking in mold slip or bad lines. The only things to really note are a lot (I mean, a lot) of vents and gates on the spincast resins, and on Mortaria Noctis, a very subtle "stepping" . That is, it looks like an artifact of 3D printing that wasn't sufficiently smoothed out before mold making. But it's really pretty subtle, and I think some very fine grit sandpaper will take care of it.
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Post by: Vaktathi
All of my stuff is still 'awaiting fulfillment' :(
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Post by: monkeytroll
And received replacement Cruz today....
Nowhere near as bad as the original, who is now awaiting a head swap
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Post by: BrookM
Good to hear there's a swift replacement system in place!
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Post by: timd
Looks like the Drop Ship stuff has arrived at Frontline gaming in California. Pick mine up on Saturday - yay!
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Post by: Haljin
Oh, that does look much better, must've been just a bad batch rather than a bad mould. I guess that's good to hear for future refence.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Never got a shipping notice, but a rather big box showed up on my doorstep this morning. I say rather large box because it had an impressive amount of bubblewrap, and over 50 bases. But not Drusilla. No, not Drusilla.
The metal heroines are perfect.
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Post by: BrookM
So wait, you got a surplus of bases?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Not just a surplus, enough to base a whole conscript squad.
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Post by: monkeytroll
All their base belong to you....
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Post by: BrookM
Well, how many bases did they order again?
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Post by: timd
Made me laugh (out loud)...
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I think they just send a full bag of bases with every order, and I got a spare instead of Drusilla.
Which right now, turns out ok in my books. I needed bases.
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Post by: -iPaint-
Order arrived in CO, will unbox tomorrow.
~iPaint
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I have just had the hardest time of all assembling Yoko. Would it have killed them to had one of their hole and pins on her left shoulder socket? Geez.
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Post by: ChaoticMind
Mathieu, did you get the resin or metal Yoko?
I got the metal and have the arms on but  if I have any idea on how to attach the gun and have it stay attached.
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Post by: BrookM
Sounds like it's Infinity all over again: great models, but an outright bitch to put together in some cases.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I finally did it. I had to glue the right arm on, let that set on the side, and glue the left arm to the body, and let that set. the cups on both pieces fit well if you haven't sanded too much.
(Metal by the way)
And then this morning, I had to somehow slip the gun around the left arm, twist it slowly and hold it in place.
In other news, they offered to ship me my Drusilla right away, but I told them to hold it until my final wave. It would have been too risky to trust Postes Canada with a single mini in a package.
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Post by: ChaoticMind
Ok, sounds like my best guess as of this moment, add glue and gun to Yoko's main body assembly and pray. Thanks for the summary, I guess hoping you'd figured out some magical method was too much to ask for. Oh well.
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Post by: Haljin
So, we're back to the regular RH silent mode? Or are they posting Amazing Art on their tumblr?
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Post by: BrookM
This was posted a week ago:
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Aye, Yoko was 'fun' and I sorta got her lined up, need a little bit of green stuff but it will be hidden under her flamer, so not too worried. Just glad she held.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Haljin wrote:So, we're back to the regular RH silent mode? Or are they posting Amazing Art on their tumblr?
They'd said as much in their last update. With the artists doing their freelance thing, it's all hands on deck to receive what we hope will soon be Wave 2. 11 minis, plus the troops?
We haven't seen Aleksandr Kerensky... I mean Kurganova... at all, have we?
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Post by: BrookM
Same with Wolfenstein.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I got my wave 2 shipping notice today so they must have had the delivery tof the models listed below they were waiting for
Aaqila (KST)
Arthemisia (IE)
Snow Ivanka (KST)
Karmina Noxx (KST)
Doctor Von X (IE)
Krüger (IE)
Severina Madsen (IE)
Katrina Zerga (KST)
Heleria Drakkenfeld (IE)
Lady Sigrith (IE)
so I'll be interested to see what the stuff that arrives looks like
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Post by: BrookM
And still no Wolfenstein status update. Ffffffffff-
Though we may see an update soon, their Tumblr just received a massive update, including zis:
Our classic Asharah is still available, bunch of boxes left! Order at www.ragingheroes.com #warmongers #limited #figurines #wargamers #goddess #magic #priestess #huntress #tabletopgames #gamers #fantasy #tuesdayfunday #picoftheday #behindthescenes #bts #wargaming #tabletop #boxes #ragingheroes #miniatures
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Post by: -iPaint-
#minimaluseofhashtags
I'm waiting to assemble my wave 1 models in the off chance I decide to order resin bases in the future. Not sure yet if I should.
~iPaint
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Post by: chaos0xomega
I want my Connoiseur box :C
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Post by: migooo
I'd like too see the werewolves please maybe? Before November?
If they come during December I'm sure they will vanish...
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Orlando, had you requested any of the troops? Do we know if the loose plan still involves them being part of Wave 2?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
The troops are not coming with this lot , it's all single figures (
(they're due at the end of the summer apparently)
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Post by: Haljin
So were troops pushed to Wave 3 or are we getting 4 waves now? I thought those single things are sort of "Wave 1.5" and they were meant to be shipped with full Wave 2 unless someone wishes otherwise?
Sure would be nice to get an update about it, huh?
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Post by: rayphoton
Haljin wrote:So were troops pushed to Wave 3 or are we getting 4 waves now? I thought those single things are sort of "Wave 1.5" and they were meant to be shipped with full Wave 2 unless someone wishes otherwise?
Sure would be nice to get an update about it, huh?
You ask.........TOO MUCH!!!!!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Wave 2 was always intended to be at the end of the summer, (well since they figured out what was going to be done when anyway)
but since once wave 1 went out to those who only had that, or had paid for all 3 shipping waves people seemed keen not to wait
so they gave those if us who'd paid for 2 waves of shipping the option to get wave 1 + part of wave 2 early (and as a consequence the remainder added into our wave 3 shipment and so late)
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Overly complicated system is overly complicated.
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Post by: BrookM
You know what would help, an update.
Crazy talk, I know, but come on now, an update would do wonders.
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Post by: Alpharius
#supersecretworkflow #proprietaryspreadsheets #notthatspecialafterall
I am looking forward to 'retail' on these things though!
#stillinterested
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Post by: Yonan
I have a feeling that one day I'll get some RH on my doorstep and I'll be all liek "wtf mate". I haven't been following it closely so have no idea when the stuff I selected will be ready (troops mainly).
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Yonan, I've been following it closely, and I still have no idea when the troops will be ready.
And for all the brouahah, my Wave 1 models are sitting in a curio, assembled and unpainted. I've completely lost interest.
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Post by: BrookM
I thought the troops were wave 2 or have I been lying to myself again?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
The best intentions often end up as paving material for metaphysical sub-prime real estate public roads.
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Post by: BrookM
I just want my mini not to be ass and in my hand so I can un-BFF these people and forget them forever and ever and ever.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
BrookM wrote:I just want my mini not to be ass and in my hand so I can un-BFF these people and forget them forever and ever and ever. 
I really like that quote
It echoes my attitude toward 75% of the Kickstarters I've backed
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Post by: migooo
I think this is the worst for me, I've backed more rpg than mini ones, and while through the breach is very very bad something about this does take the cake, I don't even want the Drusilla figure but hey ho.
I'm really concerned about the dark elf one if it ever appears.
Problem is they do make great figures, and I really would like some of the stuff they have previewed.
I think if it does appear I'm really unsure if I want to wait 2 years, when most ks stuff I've had within roughly 8 months.
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Post by: BrookM
Problem with the Drusilla figure for me was, you paid for it, whether you wanted it or not, it was included with your pledge and it cost you.
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Post by: rayphoton
BrookM wrote:I just want my mini not to be ass and in my hand so I can un-BFF these people and forget them forever and ever and ever. 
But space elves and space nuns.......they love you
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Well my (first shipment) has arrived, and at first glance seem well worth the wait
I'll need to have a more detailed look later when I have time
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
*takes crown off head*
Here BrookM, you deserve this more than me. YOu said I might have become the biggest RH non-fan, but I think you still get the title.
Long live BrookM! All hail the hate-fuelled sexual carnosaur!
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Post by: BrookM
Maybe I'll commission a piece of art where my not-Harker stomps the living gak out of a few Raging Heroes characters.
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Post by: migooo
All hail the new king?
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Post by: BrookM
Yay me?
Seriously, I just want my mini and that's the last they'll ever hear of me, pinky swear.
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Post by: Haljin
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Yonan, I've been following it closely, and I still have no idea when the troops will be ready.
And for all the brouahah, my Wave 1 models are sitting in a curio, assembled and unpainted. I've completely lost interest.
Oh, I see I'm not the only one.
I swear, a few more months and I'll forget I even ordered anything else.
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Post by: migooo
I think that honestly, they should just offer store credit if people want to bail out now.
And although I probably will back the Sister/ Dark Elf thing. I just hope they have learned how to ramp up speed on this. I really want that squid lady.
There's a big concern, especially considering the complete wall of silence.
The last update was June?
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Post by: RoninXiC
Yah two months ago.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I don't think I'll be backing the next KS in any serious way. No regrets on this one, but they've burned their credit with me for the near future as far as "pay up front" stuff goes.
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Post by: BrookM
migooo wrote:There's a big concern, especially considering the complete wall of silence.
They're having a jolly good vacation.
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Post by: migooo
BrookM wrote:migooo wrote:There's a big concern, especially considering the complete wall of silence.
They're having a jolly good vacation.
Are you sure your not a closet English person?
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Post by: BrookM
migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:migooo wrote:There's a big concern, especially considering the complete wall of silence.
They're having a jolly good vacation.
Are you sure your not a closet English person?
Can it be transferable through sleeping with one? I wonder how long before I can finally enjoy a good cuppa and when I've got to pick out an umbrella of my own. But on the bright side, at least I didn't sleep with a frog. Hate to become all anal and snooty about zis and zat.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Not to mention being how do you say... shiftless and work shy yes?
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Post by: BrookM
"But I am le tired.."
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Post by: migooo
BrookM wrote:migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:migooo wrote:There's a big concern, especially considering the complete wall of silence.
They're having a jolly good vacation.
Are you sure your not a closet English person?
Can it be transferable through sleeping with one? I wonder how long before I can finally enjoy a good cuppa and when I've got to pick out an umbrella of my own. But on the bright side, at least I didn't sleep with a frog. Hate to become all anal and snooty about zis and zat.
I'm not sure but it seems I'm more Polish than British now.
That sir earns you a top hat and monocle.
Please send in your forms for your lifetime subscription for Crumpets, Chips with Vinegar and Tea with Milk.
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Post by: BrookM
All I can say is..
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Stiff upper lip then chaps, give it the old heave ho wot?
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Post by: BrookM
Last one before we sink back into obscurity until they finally deign to update again:
Fun fact: From their Tumblr.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
....I want that.
Not in a mini. Mein gott.
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Post by: Dentry
Should have pledge for it.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
If that'd been an option I would have!
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Post by: BrookM
Maybe she was inspiration for some of the minis, going over her NSFW Tumblr, I can see similarities between Kato and the RH range.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
It's quite possible thinking about it. Kato certainly has a... glorious, physique that's uncommon in regular women.
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Post by: BrookM
Something about the eyes though. Uncanny valley vibe. Love her cosplay though, we need more steampunk cosplayers.
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Post by: RoninXiC
Lalala.
Mid June was the last time we actually saw new renders. MID JUNE. Holy hell that's a long time without any kind of progress.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Well, there was *some* progress. Part of Wave 2 has been filtering in and a few people got a mashup of waves 1 and 2 sent to them this summer.
And a FB post showed up:
https://www.facebook.com/RagingHeroes/photos/a.222671341167.134460.193287231167/10152527522646168/?type=1&theater
What does soon mean? Fethed if I know. But they say soon. My money is on slightly before Christmas. Wave 2, not Wave 3.
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Post by: BrookM
Not any time soon skipper.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Soon of a French time scale. Which means "Whenever we feel like it you filthy American pig sow"
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Having had some of the minis I'm now optimistic and expect them to get the rest of the out soon
probably
or maybe not
but I am sure they are worth the wait
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Post by: BrookM
They did update the tumblr again a few hours ago.
"Trolls being swept away in a drawing by Louis Moe "
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Post by: Dr Mathias
BrookM wrote:
"Trolls being swept away in a drawing by Louis Moe "
I have to say I admire that response. Well done, RH
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Post by: BrookM
According to the comments we'll prolly not see an update for another week at the very least. But when it comes, oh boy, it's going to blow us away!
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Post by: migooo
BrookM wrote:According to the comments we'll prolly not see an update for another week at the very least. But when it comes, oh boy, it's going to blow us away!
Bets on the new KS ??
Or more delay?
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Post by: BrookM
migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:According to the comments we'll prolly not see an update for another week at the very least. But when it comes, oh boy, it's going to blow us away!
Bets on the new KS ??
Or more delay?
Or the usual filler?
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Post by: Dentry
No! Sisters of Eternal Mercy kickstarter is not allowed in 2014.
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Post by: BrookM
Maybe they'll pull a Robotech on us and let us "vote". Remember, not voting means "YES" by default.
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Post by: migooo
Dentry wrote:
No! Sisters of Eternal Mercy kickstarter is not allowed in 2014.
In all honesty it will be December I'm feeling fairly certain for some reason.
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Post by: BrookM
Would Christmas time be a good time to run a KS to begin with?
The experience would make for a fun alternative to the good old lump of coal.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
It'd be just as rewarding though...
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
BrookM wrote:Would Christmas time be a good time to run a KS to begin with?
The experience would make for a fun alternative to the good old lump of coal. 
Well if you've got a strong fan base (like Kingdom Death) it makes not difference, and may even help as people can overspend and write it off as an Xmas gift
if you've not got a strong fan base it's a disaster in waiting as nobody will have spare money to spend
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Post by: BrookM
Oh, these guys got a strong fanbase, I'm just a misguided and uncultured oaf who really needs to see the light or drink the kool aid.
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Post by: migooo
I don't think there is a need for them to go Jonestown on the whole thing.
I was a Herald, but I won't be doing it again. Ill just say to myself I want x y z pledge that amount then wait .
Promised forums ..... nope.... Promised start by last September...... nope...
I have heard that some people want to restart Rakham via KS. But it's talk at this moment.
Your no Oaf you are a cultured Sir so put on your top hat and drink your tea.
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Post by: cincydooley
Rackham won't be restarted any time soon via KS.
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Post by: Alpharius
This is sad...
...unless that means that CONFRONTATION will be started again soon via KS?
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Post by: BrookM
I have been recrowned public enemy number one once more. So pop goes the monocle!
The project has been mishandled, I want to say "said so" but that would be awfully smug and beating a horse carcass really hard into pâté. In the end they bit off more than they could chew within their projected plans and instead of coming out with it being a rough ride they kept mum about it for long periods of time. Which could work in some instances, because no news is good news right? I suppose it's because of the massive pressure they're also under, being the most a successful miniatures KS out there after all. Then there's the glossing over critical questions, or sometimes outright ignoring them in favour of the positive feedback they receive. Not to mention a belated heavy emphasis on social media, which is no doubt been firing all pistons now to get up to speed for their next best thing, because I've got a feeling the Raging Heralds will not be making a return with their next campaign, seeing as that has been anything but a resounding success right? But hey, what do most of us know about running a KS anyway eh?
Also, I'm sure an explanation for the silence will be given with the next update, in an admonishing tone, which is probably them shutting down for the Summer, fine by me. Or was this mentioned in the last update? I don't even remember any more. It's hard to stay interested when the one mini you're in for still hasn't moved on beyond the concept stage.
I don't know if Rackham can be restarted, what with CMoN having most (or was it all?) of their fantasy moulds. It would be hilarious though, I'm trying to offload my AT-43 junk and the moment I send out the last stuff Rackham makes a return no doubt, trying to woe me with their new super armies and whatnot.
edit.
In my ramble I forgot about the forums. I've got a feeling that Raging Forums would be a LOT like those of Pallidium(sp?) books. I'd be banned before I could even think about registering!
And where's the artbook?!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well, they've realised that the art book needs to be printed on vellum of such quality that they're still trying to find a suitable supplier. And then they'll need to re-do the concept art, as they've come up with a better concept that the true connoisseur will appreciate even more than the actual concepts they have used......
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Post by: migooo
It was only talks. I knew one of the guys in the company was seriously talking about it Confrontation definitely.
If Cmon have those moulds make the bloody ophidians!!!
I supported raging heroes and all I got was a loss of money and a punch in the face? .... Sounds like where I'm from...
Social media.... ignoring Reddit....
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Ophidians would be sweet indeed. Plus I wouldn't mind the return of the Selsym. Automatically Appended Next Post: Plus, hey, horse paté. Yum.
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Post by: Buzzsaw
Am I the crazy one here? I mean, am I the one in the wrong in thinking that a company's official should, as a general rule, not link to porn tumblers? Don't get me wrong, nothing like a link to the anal-desires tumbler or such (that Steamgirl thing is... yeah), but when I look over their tumbler...
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Post by: -iPaint-
I've made it a rule:
The only tumblr blog thing I will follow on a semi-regular basis is Bryan Konietzko's, and for damn-good reasons. Everything else can waste away in the dusty cob webs of the Internet's darkest corners for all I care.
I'd actually almost forgotten that RH was still (laughably) fulfilling this KS.
~iPaint
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Post by: BrookM
If looking for a safe for work tumblr that's full of 40k art, why not try this one? It updates twice a day and is currently going over the art of the new codex: Orks. Automatically Appended Next Post: Buzzsaw wrote:Am I the crazy one here? I mean, am I the one in the wrong in thinking that a company's official should, as a general rule, not link to porn tumblers?
I think I'm going to be sick, that's some rather messed up stuff right there and I'm not talking about the standard porn on display..
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-iPaint- wrote:I've made it a rule:
The only tumblr blog thing I will follow on a semi-regular basis is Bryan Konietzko's, and for damn-good reasons. Everything else can waste away in the dusty cob webs of the Internet's darkest corners for all I care.
I'd actually almost forgotten that RH was still (laughably) fulfilling this KS.
~iPaint
Is that the artist for Kora? , cool
I follow an artist guy from DA but I do try to avoid tumblr as it has a large community of people who make my blood boil.
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Post by: BrookM
Okay, why was this moved to Dakka Discussions? For a moment there I thought that the OP had asked the mods to remove this from the forums or something when I couldn't find it.
Disregard, just saw the Nuts and Bolts thread on this, I wholly agree.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Had the same eyebrow raised moment myself, why was it moved?
I feel that the main issue with his kickstarter and possibly the rest they plan and their tumblr ectr ectr is the fact they are artists, I do not say artists cannot run a company, there are evidence that they can, but, there are also evidence that artists can run a company... oddly, for example R and their decision to print books at loss because their boss cared more about them been perfect than gaining money from them.
I feel like they are the opposite of Mantic, caring more to deliver their ideal form of expression than hitting estimated time frames and delivering product on time, if one follows this point of view, their apparent silence is explained in the same way, the artist who isolates himself to create... and forgets that the world exists... or that he (or she) has commitments.
I do not know how they will progress with this mindset, I feel a "communications guy" is not what they need, what they need is somebody to force them on time schedules, somebody to say them, its good enough, stop and send it to production.
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Post by: BrookM
Main reasoning is, that sub-forum is for misc. games and right now Raging Heroes is nothing more than an alternate take on the Imperial Guard miniature range with no rules or anything. So it does make sense that it was moved, I just think it would've worked better with a wee heads up in advance.
PsychoticStorm wrote:I feel that the main issue with his kickstarter and possibly the rest they plan and their tumblr ectr ectr is the fact they are artists, I do not say artists cannot run a company, there are evidence that they can, but, there are also evidence that artists can run a company... oddly, for example R and their decision to print books at loss because their boss cared more about them been perfect than gaining money from them.
I feel like they are the opposite of Mantic, caring more to deliver their ideal form of expression than hitting estimated time frames and delivering product on time, if one follows this point of view, their apparent silence is explained in the same way, the artist who isolates himself to create... and forgets that the world exists... or that he (or she) has commitments.
I do not know how they will progress with this mindset, I feel a "communications guy" is not what they need, what they need is somebody to force them on time schedules, somebody to say them, its good enough, stop and send it to production.
It will be interesting to see if these guys will sooner or later also go the way of the Bey, especially how things are run now. But like I said, what do we know of running a KS eh?
And hey, they got a communications guy around there, he's just busy doing other things, anything but communications really.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
I still don't see the logic why this in the discussion thread, it should be in the other games, or there should be a section for general talk on just miniature makers or for Kickstarter fullfillment
I only noticed this thread again because it was in the discussion thread.
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Post by: migooo
Hmm odd maybe there should be a KS miniatures forum but still.
I've been involved with 2 KS projects (both were RPG books) and we got stuff out in advance of the time we announced.
I'm not sure I actually understand their mentality, there going to annoy lots of people and loose potential future customers.
I'm sure several here will probably not buy any more of their stuff.
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Post by: Sangarn
I think a lot of people will buy their stuff, because no one do this kind of mini
I'm glad they take their time ... as long as the quality will be on
I've order the WW minis with the kickstarter money, so I've got time before getting the minis
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Post by: migooo
Sangarn wrote:I think a lot of people will buy their stuff, because no one do this kind of mini
I'm glad they take their time ... as long as the quality will be on
I've order the WW minis with the kickstarter money, so I've got time before getting the minis 
Same I've not paid for splitting shipping either.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Ophidians would be sweet indeed. Plus I wouldn't mind the return of the Selsym.
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Plus, hey, horse paté. Yum.
I want some more Devourers - Wolfen in full plate armour - cos they are not stupid - had some good games with them
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Post by: BrookM
I want those ONI human troops that never happened.
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Post by: jah-joshua
i've got every Confrontation mini i could ever want, but i don't have any of the TGotG girls...
bring it on, Raging Heroes...
right now, they are more like Raging Hurry-up-and-wait:(...
watching Kickstarters happen, and then waiting for the stuff to hit retail is sad...
i can only imagine how frustrating it must be for actual backers...
you guys have the patience of Job...
cheers
jah
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Post by: BrookM
Actually, some of us don't have any patience at all.
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Post by: Gertjan
Or some of us have simply lost interest with the whole stuff and don't really care anymore. I know that when my pledge arrives it'll sit in a box for a very long time, don't really play 40K anymore which is what they were meant for and before their own system gets going they will have probably rotten away
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Post by: Sangarn
I dont play GW anymore also, but they will do fine ariadna girls for Infinity instead of IG
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Ah ha found it again
wandering thread syndrome, another Raging Heroes trick to confuse us
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Post by: BrookM
Yes, Raging Heroes did it, in no way did our benevolent overlords, the mods who allow us mere worms to wriggle in this bountiful garden of theirs, do something like this to us.
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Post by: migooo
Honestly I'm not sure anymore what I'm going to do with them, the werewolf might be painted for display.
I convert stuff for my Orks or DE, but I use homebrew second ed rules (for DE)
Maybe display?
Honestly I have no idea.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
I cannot remember what I wanted them for to begin with, I remember Mortaria was the concept art that got my attention and she is the model I ultimately decide to not get.
I think I will use them as "proxies" for some personal projects I have.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I wanted them for Adepta Sororitas. But that codex left me uninspired. Then I wanted them for Militarum Tempestus, but I couldn't get my hands on a codex, and even though I could get it now off eBay or something, the novelty has passed. Then I thought I could use them in my Astra Militarum, but Dreamforge has me covered there. Or will once we get the Black Widows. Then I wanted to use them as acolytes in a Grey Knights army. And that won't work anymore.
So hey, chicks with guns.
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Post by: BrookM
I'm using mine as a Space Marine captain. Whenever it is made.
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Post by: master of ordinance
Does anyone know where one can purchase these lovely ladies?
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Post by: BrookM
Aside from the first three, nothing is for sale yet.
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Post by: Sarouan
Actually, I understand why this topic has been moved here; because most people come here to talk about everything but the actual news on the Kickstarter. More like the lack of those, indeed. Must be kinda annoying for the others in the Misc sub-forum to see that one going up again and again for well...nothing.
Yeah, it takes a lot of time. Honestly, it was to be expected since they were so small at the beginning and the project was quite...huge. I mean, it's about making models for not just one but three whole armies. I don't even want to know what would have happened if actual vehicles were also in it (no, small walkers and bikes don't count  ).
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Post by: BrookM
It was moved because it's not a game system, just an upcoming range of stand-in models for GW's Imperial Guard. Whatever you pray to have mercy on you if they ever seriously consider writing rules for a system of their own. End well it would not.
There is news however, despite the silence from RH their Tumblr hasn't been idle! It has some amazing non-related stuff on it that offers us insights into what must be going on with the design process of these minis.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Mathieu Raymond wrote:I wanted them for Adepta Sororitas. But that codex left me uninspired. Then I wanted them for Militarum Tempestus, but I couldn't get my hands on a codex, and even though I could get it now off eBay or something, the novelty has passed. Then I thought I could use them in my Astra Militarum, but Dreamforge has me covered there. Or will once we get the Black Widows. Then I wanted to use them as acolytes in a Grey Knights army. And that won't work anymore.
So hey, chicks with guns.
Bring them into a school and get them confiscated?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Ah!
Good one. Especially since I am walking on eggshells right now trying to have eye babies with new schools.
I've gone all the way into small scale historical lately, so fat chance all of my collection will help me right now.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Thanks.
I'm ah... I'm not sure what it is you're trying to say, but perhaps it's a bit personal for a public forum.
Or you're referring to a really gnarly 80's horror movie...
I've gone all the way into small scale historical lately,
Oh man. I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
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Post by: Azazelx
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Ah!
Good one. Especially since I am walking on eggshells right now trying to have eye babies with new schools.
I've gone all the way into small scale historical lately, so fat chance all of my collection will help me right now.
Eye babies?
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Post by: BrookM
And I thought some of the KS comments were cryptic!
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I guess I'll use my girls for Infinity or something
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Post by: barnacle111
Mine are going to be deadzone something's.... Although I'm don't know exactly what I will use them for yet, I suspect I've got time to make a decision before the models get to me....
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Post by: Sarouan
I still intend to use them as Imperial Guard...erm I mean Astra Militarum detachment. Would be quite good looking with my sisters.
It's just some models like Foxy Dynamite will be used for something else, since there is no more Marbo for example.
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Post by: RoninXiC
Mine are going out for sale the moment I get them in 2016 ;(
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Post by: migooo
Well if you do want to sell any hit me up
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Azazelx wrote: Mathieu Raymond wrote:Ah!
Good one. Especially since I am walking on eggshells right now trying to have eye babies with new schools.
I've gone all the way into small scale historical lately, so fat chance all of my collection will help me right now.
Eye babies?
Pensacola Christian College has very strict rules for its students, and dating is, de facto, not allowed. Even looking too long into someone of the other sex's eyes is frowned upon. The resulting meme on campus was that it was like trying to have "eye babies." We have an expression in French called "faire les beaux yeux," which loosely means to court someone with your eyes. Which is about the only contact I have had with several new administrations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_6CEqEVGc
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:Yonan, I've been following it closely, and I still have no idea when the troops will be ready. And for all the brouahah, my Wave 1 models are sitting in a curio, assembled and unpainted. I've completely lost interest.
Hehe, least I'm not the only one ; ) Yeah the delays from KS can do that - though in my case it's not so much lack of interest as so many projects. If I can find a conversion project, such as a Kurganova Dreadball team - they'd shoot up to the top 5 projects for me. But IG... nah, that would be Vic Arcadians for me now, but that will be a purchase when i'm 100% sold and have a solid plan. BrookM wrote:I thought the troops were wave 2 or have I been lying to myself again?
Wave 2 would be nice, should see my order compelte I hope - though I did select some non-troops to go with them. Single shipping could leave me out for a long time to come though hehe. And here's hoping the casts come out well -_- Haljin wrote: Mathieu Raymond wrote:Yonan, I've been following it closely, and I still have no idea when the troops will be ready. And for all the brouahah, my Wave 1 models are sitting in a curio, assembled and unpainted. I've completely lost interest.
Oh, I see I'm not the only one. I swear, a few more months and I'll forget I even ordered anything else.
I cleaned all my Deadzone minis - that was a *lot* of restic, 3 strike teams + BOGOFs. But only just started painting some this week. So many minis, so little time. I haven't lost the interest though so that's why they're still high on the agenda - 40k gaking a lot of people off lately I think is a big reason RH has dropped waaaay down the project lists for people. Mathieu Raymond wrote: Pensacola Christian College has very strict rules for its students, and dating is, de facto, not allowed. Even looking too long into someone of the other sex's eyes is frowned upon. The resulting meme on campus was that it was like trying to have "eye babies." We have an expression in French called "faire les beaux yeux," which loosely means to court someone with your eyes. Which is about the only contact I have had with several new administrations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_6CEqEVGc
Glad that was cleared up ; p Also glad Australian public schools are pretty good so we don't have to put up with ridiculous stuff like that.
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Post by: migooo
I don't know those Confessors sorry Chaplains Abbott wants in school are kinda scary.
we had something similar in the UK in my old school, it was technically a mixed school but we had strict codes of conduct, looking at a girl could be seen as harassment, intimidation, or assault even in one case where he refused to stop looking at the girl.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I always thought administrators hired those who had their mouth babies.
....
....
Talking. I meant through talking.
Stop looking at me or you'll get eye sores. Don't you all have resin babies to make or something?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Well, right now they're not hiring, period.
On the RH front, I actually looked at my minis this week. I almost took them out of the curio, but then remembered I had minis with a bona fide game system to paint.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Put them on a pedestal.
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Post by: migooo
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Well, right now they're not hiring, period.
On the RH front, I actually looked at my minis this week. I almost took them out of the curio, but then remembered I had minis with a bona fide game system to paint. 
Welp I've been removed from their Facebook for asking when the next update was supposed too appear.
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Post by: RoninXiC
Someone asked for the Werewolves and got the following answer on Facebook
"Asharah Raging They are planned for Wave 3, so later this Fall is the plan.
5. September um 00:57"
Later this fall for wave 3? Wave 2 is not even uppon us and they want to finish the remaining 80% of the minis in ~3 months? Winter starts in December, that's 2.5 months from this moment.
YEAH RIGHT.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Well, near the end of December, to be fair. Right at the time when postal services are usually swamped with packages, too.
I think BrookM was right though. We'll be lucky if we see Wave 2 by Xmas.
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Post by: migooo
Maybe there all in cafe's sipping wine thinking oh it will be done...
By who? magic elves...?
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Post by: BrookM
Sometimes I don't want to be right.
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Post by: Sangarn
We dont drink wine in café, we drink beer (belgium beer if possible)
You have to be american to drink wine without eating
we do have some "bar à vin" but they are are not common
my WW before christmas ? We can still dreem of that xD
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
You don't have bistros anymore? What is this world coming to. Marguerite Duras would probably spin in her grave.
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Post by: BrookM
#tbt: An old teaser for our famous Blood Vestals, still available at www.ragingheroes.com #throwbackthursday #bloodvestals #darkeldars #sierra #artwork #warmongers #hobby #picoftheday #fire #flames #darkelves #chaosarmy #vestals #miniatures #28mm #ragingheroes #threateningsky #threateningskies #fantasy
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Post by: Alpharius
#really? #shill #thesearen'tthedroidswe'relookingfor #enoughwiththehashtagsalready!
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Post by: BrookM
Hey man, social media is a powerful thing!
#oldgeezersdon'tbelongontheinternet
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Post by: Alpharius
The whole thing is rather amusing because weren't they initially blaming Social Media for turning us all into impatient malcontents?
#FEEDTHEBEAST!
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Post by: BrookM
#makeupyourfethingmind
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I have a DE army I would totally consider supplementing with fantasy Blood Vestals... if I wasn't due $250+ in product from RH already...
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Post by: BrookM
Well, those #amazing #dead #sexy #models with their #titties out are already available, no worries of those being subjected to any more scrutiny and redesigns that could delay delivery.
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Post by: Haljin
I'm glad they pointed out how threatening those skies are, otherwise #icouldvemissedit
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Post by: BrookM
Dunno if this line was always there, or a recent add, but this is now in the description of their Tumblr:
Oh, and some of you might find a few of our posts NSFW.
#NSFW #Mindthechildren #Ohnoyoudidn't #Downwiththissortofthing #Doyouevenhashtag?
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Post by: RoninXiC
#youdon'tsay?
What a lousy excuse of a company.
What are my chances of demanding my pledge money back? It's getting more and more frustrating and insulting.
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Post by: BrookM
Contact your creditcard company and present them your case.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Forgive my #ignorance, but what actually makes up the waves?
I got a box that was incredibly heavy the other day and thought it might've been this, but it was just a very heavy box from Mantic.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
BrookM wrote:Well, those #amazing #dead #sexy #models with their #titties out are already available, no worries of those being subjected to any more scrutiny and redesigns that could delay delivery.
I'd like them more with a little more in the way of clothing honestly. If I need nipples I can go to the bar and pick up a girl. At this point, they don't get any more of my money either way till they deliver on the stuff they owe me.
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Post by: migooo
Honestly the only time I was disappointed with their stuff was with the banner for the slaves, it was kinda sticky.
I'm down quite a lot of money too them. I wont say how much but its not something i'd ever trust them with again.
I could have had my own stuff sculpted and be here by now.
actually that's a point... anybody know anybody?
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Post by: BrookM
migooo wrote:Honestly the only time I was disappointed with their stuff was with the banner for the slaves, it was kinda sticky.
I'm down quite a lot of money too them. I wont say how much but its not something i'd ever trust them with again.
I could have had my own stuff sculpted and be here by now.
actually that's a point... anybody know anybody?
There's always Brother Vinni if you're looking for girls with their tata's out or doing questionable things. Mind, he's got a backlog as well, but nowhere near as massive as the wait for this one I suppose. Automatically Appended Next Post: KalashnikovMarine wrote: BrookM wrote:Well, those #amazing #dead #sexy #models with their #titties out are already available, no worries of those being subjected to any more scrutiny and redesigns that could delay delivery.
I'd like them more with a little more in the way of clothing honestly. If I need nipples I can go to the bar and pick up a girl. At this point, they don't get any more of my money either way till they deliver on the stuff they owe me.
You can always cut the fun bits away and paint the skin like some sort of latex fantasy thing.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Yes, because latex is sooo medieval, BrookM.
H.B.M.C.: I think the waves are just because there is nothing new to report on, now we hear them. As soon as we get another release, we'll drown in the praise being heaped on RH.
Maybe.
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Actually I was just looking for Cavegirls or Amazon's
Nothing so naughty, besides i have the alternate slave girl without a top I've never painted ( from Asrabul Vects ship)
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Post by: BrookM
They're shipping a new wave of sorts now right? If so, maybe they're waiting for that to be out of the door before rattling off another newsletter, best to start one off with good news eh?
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Post by: migooo
Good news?? You mean that your project is in limbo but hey here's some artwork for something you'll never ever see?
I think I'm beginning to be bitter.
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I was thinking more along the lines of "we've been shipping wave X for a few weeks now, here's what coming up the next time we secretly start shipping!"
#Super #Duper #Secret #Workflow #Neverforget
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Dude seriously next time your in the UK tea and crumpets are on me.
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Post by: BrookM
Very kind of you, but you really shouldn't, for it's my fault that all of this has been going so badly. I'm so negative and evil you see, it affects them something fierce.
Someone actually accused me of being responsible for general Wolfenstein still being in the concept phase.
I AM EVIL PERSONIFIED.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lt_brookman/Emotes/tumblr_n2hjrxgo1Z1qdlvg6o5_250_zps1713fda3.gif[img]
edit.
Wait, this one is better!
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Post by: migooo
Your not my EX...
Your not evil just as my old Bard put it ( pathfinder ftw ) Alignmently Challenged
wait who and a what now ??.. they did?
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Post by: BrookM
Right, I'd prolly be too kinky anyway.
As for the accusation, it was just some scrub. It would be hilarious if RH did it, but that would damn me forever and ever and ever. Actually, what happens when you go beyond the line? Do you recross is again or something?
Also, last update was officially as of today two months ago.
#backontopic #timemarchesonwards #IwishmyminiwouldshowupsoIcouldfinallystartthatcustomarmyI'vebeenplanningforohsolongnow #sadface
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#whatistisallthisthen #eloelloello
Some people really
Lines are human constraints on true morals or something...
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Post by: Azazelx
#YOLO, bitches.
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Update out, CBA to post all of it, just this bit here interests me greatly:
We know that this is one of the TGG many of you have been waiting for. Translating the 2D concept of General Wolfenstein (IE) into a 3D environment was a big challenge. We took her apart and rebuilt her from scratch several times. Can you believe that seven (seven!) sculptors worked on her throughout the year, with varying degrees of success, until we finally achieved this final version.
So, the end is nigh, soon I will fade away and explode into confetti and gibs when my mini finally arrives.
Rest of update here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy/posts/959295
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Well it is a nice update, but I doubt they will get the response they expect from their next kickstarter.
They should really better wait to deliver everything first.
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Oh lordy, they're channelling Menoth here:
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Post by: Mr. Burning
Are they spending time red designing their logotype as well? cause that looks gash.
It may just be my age but I struggled with it.
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Mr. Burning wrote:Are they spending time red designing their logotype as well? cause that looks gash.
It may just be my age but I struggled with it.
No, it's not just you. Some ambigrams come naturally*, but this one is really quite forced.
*Like this one used for a comic book series:
NΞW
X
MΞN
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Can't read it either.
Also, this bit on their game system is.. interesting:
The TGG Game
We've been hinting at our TGG game for quite some time now. A few months ago, we really put this project in motion, and started looking for a game designer who would be able to help us translate our many ideas into a game system. We wanted someone who would have very good knowledge of the game market, the constraints of production, etc, while at the same time who, as a game designer, was also willing and able to really think out of the box. We have now found this rare bird, and have been working with him throughout the summer, brainstorming and putting the basics in place.
This game is proving quite a challenge to develop, as we want it to be pretty special. It will be close to the TGG spirit, and is intended to have a very cinematic feel. The action will be far from restricted to an open battlefield, and you will be able to do many moves not usually found in regular wargames. We want it to be fast-paced, with no down time, so you'll never have to wait 3 turns approaching your enemy and then get stuck for 3 other turns resolving combat actions. The personality of each TGG will also play a big role in the game. You well know that some are stubborn, big-mouthed, unpredictable. Others are unflappable, focused, deadly effective. All this and more will show up in the game, and resolving combat will not just be about combat skills but also about bravado, attitude, or even talking yourself out of impossible situations. We are aiming for a wargame that will feel like your favourite action movie.
We'll share more on this with you as work progresses. If all goes well, we would like to include the game in the upcoming Dark Elves and Sisters Kickstarter.
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And if anyone was planning on supporting the next kickstarter, this update should be enough to make you run away screaming. When you have seven sculptors starting from scratch several times over the course of a year for just one miniature out of a hundred, you're basically at the point where there is no upper limit to how long you might have to wait. While I don't think they'd make you wait twenty years for your miniatures, there's really nothing in their behaviour to suggest they wouldn't, if that's the direction their alleged development structure takes them.
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"Here's a couple of examples...
Smack in the middle of the Pledge Manager and the miniatures finalisation for Wave 2, we got a call from Paypal. They told us they were freezing the funds collected during the Pledge Manager to protect their liability. We had to negotiate for several days and provide loads of explanations, but still were only able to unlock half of the money. The rest will not be freed up until shipping is nearly over. As you can expect, this has a ripple effect on the rest of the production, and we had to find and implement solutions to work around this situation."
I mean... wtf? they are even trying to put the blame on Paypal. I guess couple of people got Paypal to look into the matter of a company taking money and than not really delivering the product
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Post by: Mr. Burning
Its almost as if Paypal is some kind of financial institution that wants to make sure that it adheres to regulations regarding transactions or something.........
RH should have been prepared for this eventuality. I reckon 'solutions to work around' will add a wee bit extra time to completion.
More than enough time for some resculpts.....
Or to create hieroglyphs to represent their logo...I'm sorry, but why RH why?
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