Didn't see a thread for this, so apologies if its repeated.
The action kicks off on the 4th of May, with a day dedicated to Warhammer 40,000 – including more than a few unexpected surprises. Warhammer Age of Sigmar gets the treatment on the 5th of May, with new units, new battletomes, and new characters. Then the 6th of May is skirmish day – a treat for fans of more than a few Warhammer game systems.
It all builds to a traitorous crescendo on the 7th of May, coinciding with the Horus Heresy open day. Suffice it to say that there are oodles of goodies to be found.
I'm curious what the two dwarvish looking banners are. Immediate thoughts is to squats, but the banner top isn't 40k related like the rest of them are.
- Imperial Fists and Sons of Horus, both present in the new HH starter.
- Leagues of Votann icon in one of them.
- Two Sylvaneth-esque symbols.
- Both the Necromunda logo and the Ash Waste Nomads icon.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: I'm curious what the two dwarvish looking banners are. Immediate thoughts is to squats, but the banner top isn't 40k related like the rest of them are.
But the icon in the banner on the far right is the LoV icon.
The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
GaroRobe wrote: The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
No, the ‘dwarf’ ones are the one with the Votann faction symbol (far right) and the matching flag on the left with the rune.
GaroRobe wrote: The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
No, the ‘dwarf’ ones are the one with the Votann faction symbol (far right) and the matching flag on the left with the rune.
Likely a flag for the 40k day and one for the killteam day then as a guess.
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Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
GaroRobe wrote: The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
I was thinking that the one at the back (7th from the left) with the Chaos Symbol was Undivided (not "generic") CSM. The other being on a red background (the preferred color of Khorne) I was thinking as World Eaters.
GaroRobe wrote: The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
I was thinking that the one at the back (7th from the left) with the Chaos Symbol was Undivided (not "generic") CSM. The other being on a red background (the preferred color of Khorne) I was thinking as World Eaters.
The chaos star at the back looks very renegades and heretics
I think the flags can be broken down as follows:
Generic brand flags x2.
HH - Imperial Fists and Sons of Horus banners.
40k - Leagues of Votann faction symbol + rune, CSM banner.
AoS - Sylvaneth banner x2.
Necro - Ash Wastes banner and Necromunda banner.
Warcry - Chaos symbol on the brown banner.
KT - Two black banners with orange symbols.
GaroRobe wrote: The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
I was thinking that the one at the back (7th from the left) with the Chaos Symbol was Undivided (not "generic") CSM. The other being on a red background (the preferred color of Khorne) I was thinking as World Eaters.
The chaos star at the back looks very renegades and heretics
GaroRobe wrote: The red CSM banner is probably just for generic CSM. The helmet looks like a CSM one, and not khorne specific, sadly.
Are the two dwarf banners the squiggly, rune ones? Those look like AOS aelf banners, like Deepkin or more likely, Slyvanneth. Though DOK have squiggles too
No, the ‘dwarf’ ones are the one with the Votann faction symbol (far right) and the matching flag on the left with the rune.
Likely a flag for the 40k day and one for the killteam day then as a guess.
There's two KT flags already...
Fourth flag in from the left border and second flag in from the middle right. Bone circle around the skull and the skull chewing on a knife in front of a triangle.
Both in that distinctive orange color, with the same banner topper.
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I mean, the same can be said of the Greater Possessed which is what these are supposed to be equivalent to. It's not unreasonable to make as a statement as well, given that there's a direct tie between the middle-left banner and the CSM banner.
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: I feel the Skaven will be in this as well. There's been a long, persistent rumour of a Sylvaneth vs Skaven box.
I just don't know about this one. Skaven and Sylvaneth both have done boxes in the past...I think it more likely we're about to see the Kurnothi finally show up as a subfaction within the Sylvaneth, and as a potential new WarCry warband.
It would mark the first new, full warband since Red Harvest.
Great catch with the rumor engine, but I don't think its a match. No tongue and different horns. I thought it was a flaming buzz saw, but it probably is something similar
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
This also confirms a rumour.
Possessed humans are meant to be on 32s according to the rumour and possessed on 40s, so skorpekh size is still a bit big for either of those.
I wouldn't over evaluate the banners. It looks like each side has a banner that relates to the same thing. You can tell by the banner top. So that's why there is two squat banners, two necromunda banners, etc. It's easiest to tell with the LoV and the HH ones, but the rest line up as well
GaroRobe wrote: Great catch with the rumor engine, but I don't think its a match. No tongue and different horns. I thought it was a flaming buzz saw, but it probably is something similar
How kind of GW to host a 40k reveal event on my birthday (the 4th). I mean, I will be too busy enjoying Doctor Strange to watch it, but it's the thought that counts :-P
The video has the Underworlds logo but the graphic doesn’t and the graphic has Warcry but not the video? Next Nethermaze warband perhaps. Will Warcry be another box set or 2nd edition?
GaroRobe wrote: I wouldn't over evaluate the banners. It looks like each side has a banner that relates to the same thing. You can tell by the banner top. So that's why there is two squat banners, two necromunda banners, etc. It's easiest to tell with the LoV and the HH ones, but the rest line up as well
There's an argument to be made for not overevaluating, certainly...
But last year definitely did make use of the banners.
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
This also confirms a rumour.
Possessed humans are meant to be on 32s according to the rumour and possessed on 40s, so skorpekh size is still a bit big for either of those.
I remember the leak from B&C and no base sizes were ever mentioned. As far as I'm aware. That was the only leak about the new Chaos Units that was accurate and credible.
GaroRobe wrote: Great catch with the rumor engine, but I don't think its a match. No tongue and different horns. I thought it was a flaming buzz saw, but it probably is something similar
It’s the creatures alternate head.
The mouth and other bits are exact
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
This also confirms a rumour.
Possessed humans are meant to be on 32s according to the rumour and possessed on 40s, so skorpekh size is still a bit big for either of those.
I remember the leak from B&C and no base sizes were ever mentioned. As far as I'm aware. That was the only leak about the new Chaos Units that was accurate and credible.
You're right, I can't recall where I read it now in honesty. Still, I can't imagine a normal cultist unit being on 50mm basses. At least it's not a long wait to find out!
DaveC wrote: The video has the Underworlds logo but the graphic doesn’t and the graphic has Warcry but not the video? Next Nethermaze warband perhaps. Will Warcry be another box set or 2nd edition?
I think they had planned to show the new underworld starter box at the fest. But for some reason they have advanced it. It was a very strange release, without miniatures previews.
They may have corrected the flags and forgot to correct the video. (A few weeks ago in the video for "next week" they said they will show miniatures of necromunda, and written in the article they said miniatures of blood bowl. In the end it was blood bowl)
Or maybe they just forgot to put up the flag and show another band at the fest.
+ Gaunts Ghosts that are still not available to this day one year later. And we had already seen some of the Sister minis prior!
Don't get your hopes up too much if you don't want to be disappointed.
My expectation:
40K they'll just show 2-3 new minis for the CSM release. If anything, that banner is Word Bearers btw. There will be a hint about World Eaters being missing, "but tune in for next time when we will reveal what will be revealed next".
Then they show the Squat we already know and then one other Squat and maybe some vehicle artwork. They'll talk at length about everything that has been already posted though.
Killteam: They'll only show 4 models of one of the next factions, hopefully it's Lost and Damned or Cultists. That is why the other banner has the generic Kill Team sign.
Necromunda: They'll show the Cargo-8 and everyone will be like: "We already saw that!" and then there will be nothing else, except the stuff that is so "CRAZY, you need to see what we released these last weeks".
AoS, Underworlds: Dunno, but considering recent releases, they would deserve some more love. Also it looks like one of their minis is centerpiece/big reveal.
Meanwhile, I will just tune in to the Community Article that will have anything noteworthy anyway and spend the time rather to play my favorite skrimish game: "Black Library Novels". :-P
Could the Wings also match the Rumour Engine ones?
As for banners: I wonder that there are none for Skaven but two for Sylvaneth. Also I see generic 8-pointed-star and the CSM Helmet on red background. I wonder if the generic star could hint at news for Slaves To Darkness for AoS, although this seems unlikely considering Whitefang hinted Skaven and him being the most reliable AoS Rumour Source.
Unless it has an impaled human, I don't think it's a jabberslythe. As others have pointed out, you can see 1.5 human feet, arms, and potentially even their head. It would be a pretty small jabber
Meanwhile, I will just tune in to the Community Article that will have anything noteworthy anyway and spend the time rather to play my favorite skrimish game: "Black Library Novels". :-P
As for banners: I wonder that there are none for Skaven but two for Sylvaneth. Also I see generic 8-pointed-star and the CSM Helmet on red background. I wonder if the generic star could hint at news for Slaves To Darkness for AoS, although this seems unlikely considering Whitefang hinted Skaven and him being the most reliable AoS Rumour Source.
Also the generic star is matched with a banner topper to the CSM helmet.
Nothing on the Titanicus front...hmm. Been quiet for three months now since the Direwolf reveal...
I'm going to guess that Warcry is going to get repacked Underworlds kits. Although we might be looking at a new edition, as the game is about three years old now.
40K, Chaos Marines or Chaos Daemons. Squat-Voltrons, or whatever they're called now...
Kill Team...dunno. Lictors'n'Deathleapers.
AoS...Sylvaneth and Skaven.
Necromunda will probably be more Ash Wastes. Please let it be a desert Ambull! Don't think, GW, just do it!
The Horus Heresy is obvious. Full on launch box reveal and all that jazz.
Going out on a limb and guessing that the AoS Chaos battletome will be Slaves to Darkness and the new mutant spam thing being teased will be usable in both systems. No proof, but wouldn't be shocked if it happens. I think I am in Skaven denial and want to believe when their tome drops they will get a decent release of new/updated plastic models.
Equinox wrote: Going out on a limb and guessing that the AoS Chaos battletome will be Slaves to Darkness and the new mutant spam thing being teased will be usable in both systems. No proof, but wouldn't be shocked if it happens. I think I am in Skaven denial and want to believe when their tome drops they will get a decent release of new/updated plastic models.
New AoS packaging for Clan Rats and Plague Monks was photographed recently so looks like a codex is coming soon but both releases were the old models unfortunately.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the news Warcry starter include a new Skaven warband.
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
This also confirms a rumour.
Also for in support of what you were saying, this is a word-for-word copy of what was rumored about CSM on B&C:
CSM:
Plenty of new kits for 9th Edition.
Regular Possessed,
Bikers,
Chosen,
Warpsmith,
Cultists (BSF-style),
Renegade Guard (BSF-style),
human mutants,
possessed humans (the latter two are monstrously horrible. Think of the Greater Possessed but cranked up to 11), cultist standard bearer (character),
cultist character with bodyguards.
Equinox wrote: Going out on a limb and guessing that the AoS Chaos battletome will be Slaves to Darkness and the new mutant spam thing being teased will be usable in both systems. No proof, but wouldn't be shocked if it happens. I think I am in Skaven denial and want to believe when their tome drops they will get a decent release of new/updated plastic models.
New AoS packaging for Clan Rats and Plague Monks was photographed recently so looks like a codex is coming soon but both releases were the old models unfortunately.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the news Warcry starter include a new Skaven warband.
In fairness those two kits are not that bad and the clanrats aren't "that old" compared to a lot of the other stuff Skaven have. They've still got a good number of fully metal models.
Tough to get excited about an even slower set of previews to what we normally get. This will be like their more recent previews, just spread over multiple days. I wouldn't expect any more reveals.
Didn't expect more Votann so soon, hopefully a few more models revealed- I'm guessing probably just. few members of the same squad from those silhouettes and maybe a mention of if/when an army box might be arriving.
I'm guessing the main 40k reveals will be around chaos coming. Sylvaneth for AOS obviously.
Killteam and Warcry are the big unknowns I guess.
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
All the Mortal Realms barring Azyr (Sigmars crib) have a Warband plus the Spire Tyrants as a "generic" Chaos Warband and the Shadowstalkers as something a little different. There's still a lot that can be added for just the Chaos side with each of the Gods getting a Warband and possibly Beasts of Chaos and Skaven as well. Then each of the other factions can pop in too as the Shadowstalkers did for DoK.
Gert wrote: All the Mortal Realms barring Azyr (Sigmars crib) have a Warband plus the Spire Tyrants as a "generic" Chaos Warband and the Shadowstalkers as something a little different. There's still a lot that can be added for just the Chaos side with each of the Gods getting a Warband and possibly Beasts of Chaos and Skaven as well. Then each of the other factions can pop in too as the Shadowstalkers did for DoK.
We also have the long hinted at "Dawnbringer Crusaders" which might be a great little faction to tease out in Underworlds first, before moving on to a revamp of CoS which DBC are supposed to be.
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silverstu wrote: Didn't expect more Votann so soon, hopefully a few more models revealed- I'm guessing probably just. few members of the same squad from those silhouettes and maybe a mention of if/when an army box might be arriving.
I'm guessing the main 40k reveals will be around chaos coming. Sylvaneth for AOS obviously.
Killteam and Warcry are the big unknowns I guess.
I kind of do, I expect to see the full army get its release sometime in Late-August-Late September based on some of the stuff I've heard my local store manager mention. It's possible that they'll be later (October-November) but something is nagging me inside telling me that it will be a late summer release.
Equinox wrote: Going out on a limb and guessing that the AoS Chaos battletome will be Slaves to Darkness and the new mutant spam thing being teased will be usable in both systems. No proof, but wouldn't be shocked if it happens. I think I am in Skaven denial and want to believe when their tome drops they will get a decent release of new/updated plastic models.
New AoS packaging for Clan Rats and Plague Monks was photographed recently so looks like a codex is coming soon but both releases were the old models unfortunately.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the news Warcry starter include a new Skaven warband.
In fairness those two kits are not that bad and the clanrats aren't "that old" compared to a lot of the other stuff Skaven have. They've still got a good number of fully metal models.
Yeah I’d have shocked if they wasted new Skaven kits doing clan rats again when so much more needs to be done.
Kanluwen wrote: I'm thinking that the silhouette is one of the "Possessed Humans" from that leak list.
Looks to be much too big for that
I don't know, looks pretty human to me. It looks like a daemon is litereally bursting out of it, so the size doesn't really matter. It kind looks the same size as Skorpenek now that I think about it.
This also confirms a rumour.
Maybe it's Angron?
Frankly I'd be absolutely insulted if they turned Angron into that
silverstu wrote: Didn't expect more Votann so soon, hopefully a few more models revealed- I'm guessing probably just. few members of the same squad from those silhouettes and maybe a mention of if/when an army box might be arriving.
I'm guessing the main 40k reveals will be around chaos coming. Sylvaneth for AOS obviously.
Killteam and Warcry are the big unknowns I guess.
I kind of do, I expect to see the full army get its release sometime in Late-August-Late September based on some of the stuff I've heard my local store manager mention. It's possible that they'll be later (October-November) but something is nagging me inside telling me that it will be a late summer release.
Yes I think the main release will be September time - it just seems very early to be showing more unless they are doing an early release Army box or something in June/July. Which actually I expect too.. it just seems to be happening very quickly ..I don't think they would be showing more if there wasn't some sort of limited release for them in the next couple of months ..
The last few times GW have started a new army from scratch they've done various things to split up the release schedule. Partly because no one will buy a full army all in one go, and partly because even fewer people will assemble & paint that much that quickly.
Admech had 2 separate codexes for the two 'halves' of the army
Deathwatch & GSC were in a boardgame several months before their first codexes
AOS Lumineth had two releases a year apart
Custodes had models released in the Burning of Prospero and Talons of the Emperor boxes in the year before their codex.
Death Guard were in the 8E starter box, followed by a wider codex & models release a few months later
I wouldn't be surprised if we see a Squats army set or boxed game in the summer with some core units, then later in the year there's another wave with the rest of the faction.
Warhammer Community wrote:An older version of this video had a note that we'd see Warhammer Underworlds news at Warhammer Fest.
Since the new Nethermaze core set is freshly emerged, it's a bit early yet for news at this event. Don't worry though, there's a lot of very cool stuff coming.
Warhammer Community wrote:An older version of this video had a note that we'd see Warhammer Underworlds news at Warhammer Fest.
Since the new Nethermaze core set is freshly emerged, it's a bit early yet for news at this event. Don't worry though, there's a lot of very cool stuff coming.
See you there!
So yeah, no Underworlds.
Grand that clears that up, I’d rather get some Warcry news anyway as it’s been a bit since there was any.
silverstu wrote: Didn't expect more Votann so soon, hopefully a few more models revealed- I'm guessing probably just. few members of the same squad from those silhouettes and maybe a mention of if/when an army box might be arriving.
I'm guessing the main 40k reveals will be around chaos coming. Sylvaneth for AOS obviously.
Killteam and Warcry are the big unknowns I guess.
I kind of do, I expect to see the full army get its release sometime in Late-August-Late September based on some of the stuff I've heard my local store manager mention. It's possible that they'll be later (October-November) but something is nagging me inside telling me that it will be a late summer release.
Yes I think the main release will be September time - it just seems very early to be showing more unless they are doing an early release Army box or something in June/July. Which actually I expect too.. it just seems to be happening very quickly ..I don't think they would be showing more if there wasn't some sort of limited release for them in the next couple of months ..
I wouldn't be surprised if there is an early release starter box for them in July/August.
They're showing WarCry, not Underworlds. The video simply said "Underworlds" instead of WarCry. It's the same number of things being shown.
Anyways: Nethermaze is the start of a new season. The electro-zombies were the last Harrowdeep warband. The repacked Harrowdeep warbands are labeled Nethermaze for their packaging even.
SamusDrake wrote: Nothing on the Titanicus front...hmm. Been quiet for three months now since the Direwolf reveal...
I'm going to guess that Warcry is going to get repacked Underworlds kits. Although we might be looking at a new edition, as the game is about three years old now.
40K, Chaos Marines or Chaos Daemons. Squat-Voltrons, or whatever they're called now...
Kill Team...dunno. Lictors'n'Deathleapers.
AoS...Sylvaneth and Skaven.
Necromunda will probably be more Ash Wastes. Please let it be a desert Ambull! Don't think, GW, just do it!
The Horus Heresy is obvious. Full on launch box reveal and all that jazz.
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y release between bigger releases.
They certainly are taking their time over the Direwolf...
gorgon wrote: Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?
The AT team has, like most GW teams, said that they are NOT doing anything that fans ask for that isn't coming out soon. So they are not doing Imperators and they are not doing Epic.
Which isn't to say they can't do them, just that they've not done them up till now.
Personally I feel like an Imperator would be the wrong move. What AT needs right now, esp as GW is just releasing chaos knight kits, is Chaos Titans. Not just rules for traitors and a few demonic tables, but actual mutated and warped titans.
Ergo give the game a visually distinct and different army.
That I hope is what's on the horizon for AT as the next big thing. I feel like anything else, even an Imperator, is making the game too stale with a single mirror faction approach. It also makes it harder and harder to actually do a Chaos or Xenos army because the Imperial side has so many options already. Any other army either needs a huge release; a fast release cycle or just has to go with "this one titan can do everything and is super broken" approach.
gorgon wrote: Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?
I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch. Will be interesting if any of the rumours that say they're going to integrated limited tanks and infantry in turn out to be true
Actually, I'm with Overread on this: God-specific or more-obviously-Chaotic Chaos Titans would be the next step for this. Really differentiate the sides.
zedmeister wrote: I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch.
A whole edition's worth of cards and Titan terminals invalidated in one fell swoop? Isn't that what kneecapped X-Wing?
TalonZahn wrote: Warcry should be up for 3 year rotation in the new version cycle, if I have my timeframes right.
A new Warcry edition feels like it would shore up the second half of the year like Kill-Team did last time. I doubt they much, if anything, getting in the way of the new 30k edition for the foreseeable months.
My guess is a supplement book and maybe a new team and/or boxset.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Actually, I'm with Overread on this: God-specific or more-obviously-Chaotic Chaos Titans would be the next step for this. Really differentiate the sides.
zedmeister wrote: I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch.
A whole edition's worth of cards and Titan terminals invalidated in one fell swoop? Isn't that what kneecapped X-Wing?
I think it was also really erratic stock as well since its pre-painted so its much easier to fall out of stock.
Plus don't forget GW customers are very used to GW cycling rules. We all know that any game they release that ends up being supported mid to long term will very likely get a new edition. Invalidating all the former and changing things up.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Actually, I'm with Overread on this: God-specific or more-obviously-Chaotic Chaos Titans would be the next step for this. Really differentiate the sides.
zedmeister wrote: I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch.
A whole edition's worth of cards and Titan terminals invalidated in one fell swoop? Isn't that what kneecapped X-Wing?
AT doesn't have hundreds of individual interchangable upgrade cards tied to scores of model releases.
gorgon wrote: Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?
Maybe someday, but it'd likely be a resin piece with a price tag that everyone will scream about. To me, in order to be a plastic kit it would need to be useable as a gaming piece to ensure enough sales. The Warmasters are already too big for regular AT games, and the Iconoclast was the first plastic Titan kit that didn't seem to fly off the shelves. Of course, there could still be a market among the collector whales who buy everything that FW produces. So it'd be a smaller resin run aimed at that famously price-insensitive crowd.
I don't buy the rumors about tanks and planes formally joining the game. Adding some tanks to AT won't actually suit anyone. There are plenty in the AT community who want to keep the game Titan-focused. They don't want to see all- or mostly-tank forces (inevitably) majorly screw with game balance. But adding them in a more limited, controlled way isn't what the "I want Epic" crowd is asking for. Plus I dunno that GW really wants to be in the tiny dudes and vehicles business anymore when great non-GW 6mm options are so plentiful.
They openly talked about kits for 'tweener Titans not long after the game launched, and so far we've gotten two of those plus a whole gakton of mentions of a third. AT has had a glacial release rate from the beginning. To me (and getting this back on topic), this is a regular pause probably exacerbated by resources being diverted to the HH 2.0 launch.
SamusDrake wrote: Nothing on the Titanicus front...hmm. Been quiet for three months now since the Direwolf reveal...
I'm going to guess that Warcry is going to get repacked Underworlds kits. Although we might be looking at a new edition, as the game is about three years old now.
40K, Chaos Marines or Chaos Daemons. Squat-Voltrons, or whatever they're called now...
Kill Team...dunno. Lictors'n'Deathleapers.
AoS...Sylvaneth and Skaven.
Necromunda will probably be more Ash Wastes. Please let it be a desert Ambull! Don't think, GW, just do it!
The Horus Heresy is obvious. Full on launch box reveal and all that jazz.
Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Isn't there a rumor going around about AT getting a 2.0 soon?
gorgon wrote: Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?
I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch. Will be interesting if any of the rumours that say they're going to integrated limited tanks and infantry in turn out to be true
Blood Bowl was released in 2016, had a slow down in new releases, then saw a second edition in late 2020 followed by regular new models.
Necromunda was released in 2017, had a slow down in new releases last year, and just over four years later we're now seeing a fairly substantial update in a new setting with vehicles.
Adeptus Titanicus was released in 2018, and is currently undergoing a slow down in in new content...
Overread wrote: That I hope is what's on the horizon for AT as the next big thing. I feel like anything else, even an Imperator, is making the game too stale with a single mirror faction approach. It also makes it harder and harder to actually do a Chaos or Xenos army because the Imperial side has so many options already. Any other army either needs a huge release; a fast release cycle or just has to go with "this one titan can do everything and is super broken" approach.
I might be missing something here, but is Chaos lacking access to anything from the AT range other than possibly the Psy-Titan (and that's a guess on my part)?
Overread wrote: That I hope is what's on the horizon for AT as the next big thing. I feel like anything else, even an Imperator, is making the game too stale with a single mirror faction approach. It also makes it harder and harder to actually do a Chaos or Xenos army because the Imperial side has so many options already. Any other army either needs a huge release; a fast release cycle or just has to go with "this one titan can do everything and is super broken" approach.
I might be missing something here, but is Chaos lacking access to anything from the AT range other than possibly the Psy-Titan (and that's a guess on my part)?
Yeah but the point at which GW starts doing actual different sculpts for Chaos you can bet that those who play Chaos will want to use those over just the same Imperial models with a chaos paint scheme or insignia. Or at least have the option to have unique models.
Overread wrote: Yeah but the point at which GW starts doing actual different sculpts for Chaos you can bet that those who play Chaos will want to use those over just the same Imperial models with a chaos paint scheme or insignia. Or at least have the option to have unique models.
I don't think they should do Chaos Titans in the style of "The one you have already, only with more spikes and an angry face!".
I think they should be completely different types of titans - the old Banelords and Subjugators spring to mind - in much the same way that GW is now giving unique types of Knights to Chaos.
Overread wrote: Yeah but the point at which GW starts doing actual different sculpts for Chaos you can bet that those who play Chaos will want to use those over just the same Imperial models with a chaos paint scheme or insignia. Or at least have the option to have unique models.
I don't think they should do Chaos Titans in the style of "The one you have already, only with more spikes and an angry face!".
I think they should be completely different types of titans - the old Banelords and Subjugators spring to mind - in much the same way that GW is now giving unique types of Knights to Chaos.
I'd love to see a modern Banelord, and the Slaaneshi Knights/Titans make it to AT (and 40k, for that matter).
tneva does make a valid point, though - assuming you start seeing Chaos-specific units appear in AT, do you really see Chaos players not insisting they get access to everything the Imperium gets as well?
Overread wrote: Yeah but the point at which GW starts doing actual different sculpts for Chaos you can bet that those who play Chaos will want to use those over just the same Imperial models with a chaos paint scheme or insignia. Or at least have the option to have unique models.
I don't think they should do Chaos Titans in the style of "The one you have already, only with more spikes and an angry face!".
I think they should be completely different types of titans - the old Banelords and Subjugators spring to mind - in much the same way that GW is now giving unique types of Knights to Chaos.
Exactly.
Which means Chaos would need an equivalent variety of unique models to combat the Imperium's variety. Which is why I think Chaos (and other Xenos) need to come sooner rather than later. That way there's still Imperial stuff for GW to release for Imperial players and there isn't such a vast disparity in model variety and tactical options on the tabletop.
I really want to see a modern Banelord, Slaanesh knights and more.
Which means Chaos would need an equivalent variety of unique models to combat the Imperium's variety. Which is why I think Chaos (and other Xenos) need to come sooner rather than later. That way there's still Imperial stuff for GW to release for Imperial players and there isn't such a vast disparity in model variety and tactical options on the tabletop.
I really want to see a modern Banelord, Slaanesh knights and more.
And what then Imperium has? If chaos has same as imperium and then some other variants then by definition chaos is superior side. Either the legion rules needs to be biased in favour of imperium or there's just one reason to play imperium. Psi-titan.
When an F-15 pilot defects to the Russians, at which point does his plane turn into a MIG? As soon as he makes the choice, or when he crosses the border, or...?
Chaos is not Imperium +1 if you have different subgroups to draw troops and war machines from, or if you have a setting in which the Imperium innovated but Chaos uses their old gear. Titanicus is just titans, and just during the Horus Heresy. Artificially limiting the game like that means that you can't do anything with the Imperial side. If you want Chaos titans, you either accept it's Imperium +1 or remove options Chaos should rightfully have. There's no good solution to this without moving the game to become Epic.
lord_blackfang wrote: When an F-15 pilot defects to the Russians, at which point does his plane turn into a MIG? As soon as he makes the choice, or when he crosses the border, or...?
Easy. The first mark appears on the plane when the pilot commits to defecting. The closer he flies to the border, the gnarlier it starts looking. But it'll still be an F-15 until he starts shooting down Americans. Only then does his plane start growing a club tail.
Wait, you want it to turn into a MIG? Take it to the garage and get welding. The only thing your F-15 gets from becoming Russian is tentacles and a spiky fur cap.
lord_blackfang wrote: When an F-15 pilot defects to the Russians, at which point does his plane turn into a MIG? As soon as he makes the choice, or when he crosses the border, or...?
It doesn't, he runs out of fuel before he reaches the border, if the wings don't fall off because the minister of defence embellished all the maintenance money to buy himself another yacht.
gorgon wrote: Yeah, no AT is disappointing but not a huge surprise. We know the next thing is the Dire Wolf, and that looks like one of their resin filler-y releases between bigger releases.
Do you think they'd to an Imperator? Or have they strictly said in the past that they wouldn't?
I'm guessing that they're planning a new version launch. Will be interesting if any of the rumours that say they're going to integrated limited tanks and infantry in turn out to be true
Blood Bowl was released in 2016, had a slow down in new releases, then saw a second edition in late 2020 followed by regular new models.
Necromunda was released in 2017, had a slow down in new releases last year, and just over four years later we're now seeing a fairly substantial update in a new setting with vehicles.
Adeptus Titanicus was released in 2018, and is currently undergoing a slow down in in new content...
And wasn’t Warcry released in 2019, completing a 4 year cycle of 4 games..
Overread wrote: Yeah but the point at which GW starts doing actual different sculpts for Chaos you can bet that those who play Chaos will want to use those over just the same Imperial models with a chaos paint scheme or insignia. Or at least have the option to have unique models.
I don't think they should do Chaos Titans in the style of "The one you have already, only with more spikes and an angry face!".
I think they should be completely different types of titans - the old Banelords and Subjugators spring to mind - in much the same way that GW is now giving unique types of Knights to Chaos.
I'd love to see a modern Banelord, and the Slaaneshi Knights/Titans make it to AT (and 40k, for that matter).
tneva does make a valid point, though - assuming you start seeing Chaos-specific units appear in AT, do you really see Chaos players not insisting they get access to everything the Imperium gets as well?
Well, I don't think things would go too out of control if GW/FW say, released a Banelord as an auxiliary Titan for Traitor Legios. Basically make it a counterpart of the Psi-Titan with an appropriately-sized points tag and a fairly fixed weapons kit, with special rules that stay mostly within the existing Corrupted Titans rules framework.
But I don't see much sense in Traitor Legios getting access to a whole new range of Chaos Titans in their maniples in addition to the Imperial options. Nor do I think it makes sense to have a Chaos Legio faction in addition to Traitor Legios. The game is also still a Heresy game (and would likely stay Heresy-adjacent in any later expansions), so I'm not sure that whole forces of heavily mutated Titans would be setting-appropriate anyway. I'm more inclined to put my money on xenos Titans happening...someday. It wouldn't need a massive number of SKUs either. Orks could be handled with kits for Great Gargants, Gargants, and Stompas, with Gorka/Morkanauts in the Knights role. Maybe FW releases a Mekboy Gargant upgrade kit to boot. Done.
Geifer wrote: Chaos is not Imperium +1 if you have different subgroups to draw troops and war machines from, or if you have a setting in which the Imperium innovated but Chaos uses their old gear. Titanicus is just titans, and just during the Horus Heresy. Artificially limiting the game like that means that you can't do anything with the Imperial side. If you want Chaos titans, you either accept it's Imperium +1 or remove options Chaos should rightfully have. There's no good solution to this without moving the game to become Epic.
If somebody is x+1 you should just remove x from game. Otherwise it's just false choice. People just use x+1 rules regardless of models.
Looks like there's a bookmark at the bottom though. Maybe its from an upcoming campaign book, but do they usually have random text blurbs on the picture like that? Especially bland "these are the slaves to darkness. They think they are rulers, but are just pawns" ones?
The combination of a ribbon on the bottom, the generic text and the miss of an hardcover looks to me like a weird mix which would suggest that this will be no battletome
Lot of new leaks over in the Age of Sigmar thread, so I'll hold off on updating the first post until we know for certain that its related to Warhammer Fest. I imagine they'll have to show them off now (or at least tease them), but besides maybe the "Horns of Hashut" potentially being the new warcry band, I don't think aos chaos was on the list
GaroRobe wrote: Lot of new leaks over in the Age of Sigmar thread, so I'll hold off on updating the first post until we know for certain that its related to Warhammer Fest. I imagine they'll have to show them off now (or at least tease them), but besides maybe the "Horns of Hashut" potentially being the new warcry band, I don't think aos chaos was on the list
On the schedule picture, the rightmost banner of the left set is a generic Chaos star as used by Slaves to Darkness. Being generic, it might just as easily be something else Chaos. But I'd say AoS Chaos as a planned reveal is at least a reasonable guess since we have a Chaos Marine helmet on another banner to indicate what's on the 40k side for Chaos.
On the schedule picture, the rightmost banner of the left set is a generic Chaos star as used by Slaves to Darkness. Being generic, it might just as easily be something else Chaos. But I'd say AoS Chaos as a planned reveal is at least a reasonable guess since we have a Chaos Marine helmet on another banner to indicate what's on the 40k side for Chaos.
It wasn't Slaves to Darkness. Roadmap they just posted has that dropping in the winter.
Yeah, it wasn't. I'm just saying until GW confirmed that, the aforementioned banner could have reasonably been guessed to belong to any AoS Chaos faction. We can now rule out Slaves to Darkness for sure.
Geifer wrote: Yeah, it wasn't. I'm just saying until GW confirmed that, the aforementioned banner could have reasonably been guessed to belong to any AoS Chaos faction. We can now rule out Slaves to Darkness for sure.
Erm, no. The chaos factions all have unique sigils for a few editions now, GW just didn't bother explaining them clearly. There is no 'generic' one anymore. Look at KT and 40K side, another distinct sigil of chaos faction, if people don't recognize it, it's bound to be something new. All the banners are pretty specific what they announce, it would make no sense for GW to make an exception for one out of three new chaos factions.
Danny76 wrote: Yeah, as much as spoilers are nice and keep us interested.
I do hate it when like days before an event reveal everything is up
Yes I can't say I'm a fan of these massive leaks when whole books go up well before they are released. Bits and pieces, descriptions and the odd photo are all very well but spoiling the books/releases well ahead of their actual release is a bit rubbish.
Danny76 wrote: Yeah, as much as spoilers are nice and keep us interested.
I do hate it when like days before an event reveal everything is up
And then people blame GW for only showing stuff "we already saw" when it was leaked a couple days early.
I mean last year a lot of what we saw was announced months ahead.
To be fair so many things were delayed/messed up last year. Heck the fact that the Slaves to Darkness is being spoilt now and yet its a winter release suggests that we are still well within a messed up release timeline.
Danny76 wrote: Yeah, as much as spoilers are nice and keep us interested.
I do hate it when like days before an event reveal everything is up
And then people blame GW for only showing stuff "we already saw" when it was leaked a couple days early.
I mean last year a lot of what we saw was announced months ahead.
To be fair so many things were delayed/messed up last year. Heck the fact that the Slaves to Darkness is being spoilt now and yet its a winter release suggests that we are still well within a messed up release timeline.
Dunno. Fs & idk box came in correct month. And books are done well in advance. Somebody likely is sitting atm with Some of the 2023 battletomes at hand.
TalonZahn wrote: Warcry should be up for 3 year rotation in the new version cycle, if I have my timeframes right.
A new Warcry edition feels like it would shore up the second half of the year like Kill-Team did last time. I doubt they much, if anything, getting in the way of the new 30k edition for the foreseeable months.
My guess is a supplement book and maybe a new team and/or boxset.
There was also a rumour which says that GW will stretch their Edition life time again cause they no longer can come up with "a new edition every three years" rhythm.
TalonZahn wrote: Warcry should be up for 3 year rotation in the new version cycle, if I have my timeframes right.
A new Warcry edition feels like it would shore up the second half of the year like Kill-Team did last time. I doubt they much, if anything, getting in the way of the new 30k edition for the foreseeable months.
My guess is a supplement book and maybe a new team and/or boxset.
There was also a rumour which says that GW will stretch their Edition life time again cause they no longer can come up with "a new edition every three years" rhythm.
Fine by me, They can stretch it twice as long as far as I am concerned. The game is largely just peachy as it is right now. I barely got to play it at all since getting it late 2019. After 13 books bought and not used, I am not eager to start that cycle again.
Short version, one newsletter subscriber is picked to win what's revealed at Warhammer Fest, and no doubt some territories with anti gambling laws are excluded.
I’m kind of skeptical a new edition of Warcry will be announced, pretty sure it will just be the Horns of Hashut (which may or may not be in a new big boxed set).
I don’t really have any source on it, but one thing I have noticed that is unique about Warcry compared to other GW rule sets is that among the people I meet/speak to who actually play it none of them really complain about the rules or really want a new edition. Sure there are those who don’t really like the game, but the fan base as a whole looks to be pretty happy with the ruleset. There also isn’t a strong desire to keep the game balanced for high level tournaments. If that’s the case, why change the rules when it’s a lot easier to just keep producing expansions for it?
ImAGeek wrote: A good thing about Slaves to Darkness being so far away means the leak probably hasn’t ruined a chunk of the Warhammerfest reveals.
I'm still of the mind that slaves to darkness wasn't intended to be revealed at warhammer fest. Why would it be? We know for a fact it's a winter release, and it's just now May. It'll 100% be a Warhammer fest reveal now, but I think whatever sylvanneth/skaven reveal they show will be everything they originally wanted to reveal.
ImAGeek wrote: A good thing about Slaves to Darkness being so far away means the leak probably hasn’t ruined a chunk of the Warhammerfest reveals.
I'm still of the mind that slaves to darkness wasn't intended to be revealed at warhammer fest. Why would it be? We know for a fact it's a winter release, and it's just now May. It'll 100% be a Warhammer fest reveal now, but I think whatever sylvanneth/skaven reveal they show will be everything they originally wanted to reveal.
DaveC wrote: There’s now a Skaven banner on the countdown timer that wasn’t on the original banner image.
I hope we get new plague monk models. I was thinking of starting a small Pestilens force, but I don't like the current, outdated models.
We aren’t, but I’m with you as much as I’ve been disagreed with for that opinion. Yes, Skaven have lots of finecast that needs doing, but Plague Monks would be a priority for me. They’re awful and actually older than some of the finecast stuff, and they’re a core(ish) unit. I wish GW would do more to keep core units up to date, because they’re what you’re gonna have a lot of in the army. Although they’re a bit better than they have been now, and that does come along with price rises so, every silver lining and all that.
DaveC wrote: There’s now a Skaven banner on the countdown timer that wasn’t on the original banner image.
I hope we get new plague monk models. I was thinking of starting a small Pestilens force, but I don't like the current, outdated models.
We aren’t, but I’m with you as much as I’ve been disagreed with for that opinion. Yes, Skaven have lots of finecast that needs doing, but Plague Monks would be a priority for me. They’re awful and actually older than some of the finecast stuff, and they’re a core(ish) unit. I wish GW would do more to keep core units up to date, because they’re what you’re gonna have a lot of in the army. Although they’re a bit better than they have been now, and that does come along with price rises so, every silver lining and all that.
Defo Plague Monks and Gutter Runners. They’re heavily outdated, and I’ve never seen a Plague Monk kit without quite extreme mould lines.
I wouldn’t say no to a significant wider update though, such as plastic weapon teams.
The Plague Monks probably won’t, since we do have the new boxart for them and it’s the old sculpts. Eshin though is definitely fair game. Dare I hope updated Gun-Teams?
Hoping for a decent look at the squats, maybe not a full reveal but a glimpse of the other elements and a chat about their development and design. I'm amazed there have been virtually no leaks [other than they are coming] for Squats, its kind of good because I have no idea what yto expect.
A roadmap would be good and maybe a teaser video of a few upcoming models for those factions.
Hoping for a decent look at the squats, maybe not a full reveal but a glimpse of the other elements and a chat about their development and design. I'm amazed there have been virtually no leaks [other than they are coming] for Squats, its kind of good because I have no idea what yto expect.
A roadmap would be good and maybe a teaser video of a few upcoming models for those factions.
Segersgia wrote: The Plague Monks probably won’t, since we do have the new boxart for them and it’s the old sculpts. Eshin though is definitely fair game. Dare I hope updated Gun-Teams?
Honestly I got the feeling that the original plan was to remove the gun teams and replace them with the weaponised rat ogres. That said it was all born of a time when GW was doing strange things with Old World/AoS so now we've wound up with both. Gun teams would be almost a no-brainer - letting GW replace several metal kits with a single plastic one. But it seems that such logic is rare from GW - it really seems to hinge on if anyone in the creative departments wants to do skaven enough to bother.
Hoping for a decent look at the squats, maybe not a full reveal but a glimpse of the other elements and a chat about their development and design. I'm amazed there have been virtually no leaks [other than they are coming] for Squats, its kind of good because I have no idea what yto expect.
A roadmap would be good and maybe a teaser video of a few upcoming models for those factions.
With all these leaks I'm getting the impression that GW has managed to disgruntle people again in the recent past after riding the nuGW hype for so long, that there are now a fair few who are not just in a position to spoil things but willing and motivated to do so.
If that's true and Squats aren't simply a well kept secret, then agreed, it's nice for any leakers to hold back and not rain of GW's parade with Squats.
Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving brats looking for clout.
...do you understand what clout means?
How tf are you supposed to get clout from a gakky potato cam from an anonymous source? It's literally designed to make it so GW can't track down the leaker.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
The copium here is off the charts.
And what is Gert coping with? There's an element of truth in those words, when was the last time we weren't all left underwhelmed by a preview because we knew what was in it, often with images?
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
MFW when someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
The copium here is off the charts.
And what is Gert coping with? There's an element of truth in those words, when was the last time we weren't all left underwhelmed by a preview because we knew what was in it, often with images?
The idea that people leaking stuff are getting clout, firstly, is obviously nonsense.
Secondly, the leaks themselves being the source of negativity - rather than the *lacking preview* or *material itself* being the source of negativity itself.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
The copium here is off the charts.
And what is Gert coping with? There's an element of truth in those words, when was the last time we weren't all left underwhelmed by a preview because we knew what was in it, often with images?
The idea that people leaking stuff are getting clout, firstly, is obviously nonsense.
Secondly, the leaks themselves being the source of negativity - rather than the *lacking preview* or *material itself* being the source of negativity itself.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
MFW when someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex
Me riding the motorcycle of negativity
Oh nooooo how dare youuuuu.
You evil evil man.
Please, I urge you, do not post more.
Dude looks more like a halfling than a squat. Maybe there are two types of warriors? One of the banners had a different symbol than the dwarf face, I thought that it would be robots, but maybe not.
Look at the size of the skull on it's back, it's Daemon Prince sized
Either it's a tiny skull or the cables on the backpacks are 5x the normal size, it's an odd combination of scales either way.
Cables are known to expand in size under the warping influence of chaos.
The rivets are also eyeball sized which seems chonky in that case, but not long until we find out, were it not for the skull I think it'd be even more confusing. The exciting thing is we weren't led to expect a prince so it's more than anticipated.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
The copium here is off the charts.
Goes beyond that, I think.
Its the 'News & Rumors' forum. If people don't want information, they can... not come here?
Its the most bizarre place for spoiler complaints yet, let alone dictates on how other people have to enjoy previews.
Roadmap doesn't feel like "preview event" material, it should be model reveals. And what's the betting they lump in some coverage of the upcoming videogames
Gadzilla666 wrote: It's Possessed. They're going to be chonky. This is why they can't ride in Rhinos in Death Guard armies. The rules were anticipating these models.
Weird how regular Posessed easily dwarf the so-called "Greater" Posessed in that case
Gadzilla666 wrote: It's Possessed. They're going to be chonky. This is why they can't ride in Rhinos in Death Guard armies. The rules were anticipating these models.
Weird how regular Posessed easily dwarf the so-called "Greater" Posessed in that case
Any reason they can't? Rumours are greater possessed don't exist any more. Likewise the silhouette of the mortal possessed looks the same size as a current greater possessed.
Gadzilla666 wrote: It's Possessed. They're going to be chonky. This is why they can't ride in Rhinos in Death Guard armies. The rules were anticipating these models.
Weird how regular Posessed easily dwarf the so-called "Greater" Posessed in that case
Might explain why Greater Possessed are supposedly gone from the codex? Or maybe it is a new Daemon Prince that the big model leak missed. We'll know soon enough.
Gadzilla666 wrote: It's Possessed. They're going to be chonky. This is why they can't ride in Rhinos in Death Guard armies. The rules were anticipating these models.
Weird how regular Posessed easily dwarf the so-called "Greater" Posessed in that case
Any reason they can't? Rumours are greater possessed don't exist any more.
This. The "Greater" Possessed are just Possessed now.
I really don't understand the coat on that Squat. Why would they think that was a good idea for the model when they're already wearing big bulky void armour?
If the armour was more like Grendelsens or Gunnsteins, then yeah it might work, but not like this.
silverstu wrote: Not wild on the beardless face but everything else looks promising with that bike.
Actually its pointed out elsewhere that could be a female squat- which makes sense and I'm totally happy with! Looking forward to the full reveal later.
I don't mind small leaks like these ahead of the big reveal later - I do think its cooler to let GW have the full reveal without it being spoiled.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I really don't understand the coat on that Squat. Why would they think that was a good idea for the model when they're already wearing big bulky void armour?
If the armour was more like Grendelsens or Gunnsteins, then yeah it might work, but not like this.
Why does a Librarian wear his wizard's robe over his fully enclosed and bulky power armor? It's just one of those things that make a model more 40k. Given the lone Squat we got earned some comments about being generic sci-fi, I'd say that's hardly a bad thing.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I really don't understand the coat on that Squat. Why would they think that was a good idea for the model when they're already wearing big bulky void armour?
If the armour was more like Grendelsens or Gunnsteins, then yeah it might work, but not like this.
Why does a Librarian wear his wizard's robe over his fully enclosed and bulky power armor? It's just one of those things that make a model more 40k. Given the lone Squat we got earned some comments about being generic sci-fi, I'd say that's hardly a bad thing.
The robes on Librarians, Chaplains, Dark Angels, tech priests etc or the coat on scion commander looks fine despite being over their armour, this just seems odd with their bulky round void suit.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I really don't understand the coat on that Squat. Why would they think that was a good idea for the model when they're already wearing big bulky void armour?
If the armour was more like Grendelsens or Gunnsteins, then yeah it might work, but not like this.
Why does a Librarian wear his wizard's robe over his fully enclosed and bulky power armor? It's just one of those things that make a model more 40k. Given the lone Squat we got earned some comments about being generic sci-fi, I'd say that's hardly a bad thing.
The robes on Librarians, Chaplains, Dark Angels, tech priests etc or the coat on scion commander looks fine despite being over their armour, this just seems odd with their bulky round void suit.
Can I claim a "depends"? I'll form an opinion on how it looks on the actual models when I see good pictures of them, but I will say I thought it looked decent in that artwork of space dwarf playing Tron from the recent fluff article on Warhammer Community.
I think it's a matter of execution more than principle, even on a bulky void suit worn by a short person.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I really don't understand the coat on that Squat. Why would they think that was a good idea for the model when they're already wearing big bulky void armour?
If the armour was more like Grendelsens or Gunnsteins, then yeah it might work, but not like this.
Why does a Librarian wear his wizard's robe over his fully enclosed and bulky power armor? It's just one of those things that make a model more 40k. Given the lone Squat we got earned some comments about being generic sci-fi, I'd say that's hardly a bad thing.
The robes on Librarians, Chaplains, Dark Angels, tech priests etc or the coat on scion commander looks fine despite being over their armour, this just seems odd with their bulky round void suit.
Can I claim a "depends"? I'll form an opinion on how it looks on the actual models when I see good pictures of them, but I will say I thought it looked decent in that artwork of space dwarf playing Tron from the recent fluff article on Warhammer Community.
I think it's a matter of execution more than principle, even on a bulky void suit worn by a short person.
The robe on that artwork looks fine, it's just this trench-coat thing on the biker that seems strange.
Mentlegen324 wrote: The robe on that artwork looks fine, it's just this trench-coat thing on the biker that seems strange.
I don't necessarily disagree with you (like I said, opinion yet to be formed), but note how it's not a trenchcoat so much as a fur lined jacket and pilot cap like on a WW1 pilot. It may actually fulfill a function as an identifying uniform rather than a dwarf deciding to protect the void suit's paintjob from bad space weather. I think there's a bit more going on than we can see from that partial image.
Kanluwen wrote: But see, if you post it in spoilers then you don't get to ruin the preview for someone else!
"Ruin".
This isn't someone posting the plot to the new Doctor Strange. They're pictures of miniatures.
If I see the models EXACTLY as they will be three hours beforehand, my day is ruined you HECKIN' CLOUT CHASER!
Some people don't have a lot on and that preview will be the highlight of their day (appreciate that sounds like a slow day by most standards), they might pop in here to have some excited pre-chatter or whatever and not expect to see the contents early. Suddenly they don't have the thing they were looking forwards to any more. It's not most people but I do understand it for a few.
Kanluwen wrote: But see, if you post it in spoilers then you don't get to ruin the preview for someone else!
"Ruin".
This isn't someone posting the plot to the new Doctor Strange. They're pictures of miniatures.
If I see the models EXACTLY as they will be three hours beforehand, my day is ruined you HECKIN' CLOUT CHASER!
Haha. I get it, but I recommend exercising self control.
There will be spoilers on Dakka and if you know that these spoilers will sour your excitement for the live Warhammer Fest reveals... stay off of Dakka until after GW is finished with their thing.
Kanluwen wrote: But see, if you post it in spoilers then you don't get to ruin the preview for someone else!
"Ruin".
This isn't someone posting the plot to the new Doctor Strange. They're pictures of miniatures.
If I see the models EXACTLY as they will be three hours beforehand, my day is ruined you HECKIN' CLOUT CHASER!
Some people don't have a lot on and that preview will be the highlight of their day (appreciate that sounds like a slow day by most standards), they might pop in here to have some excited pre-chatter or whatever and not expect to see the contents early. Suddenly they don't have the thing they were looking forwards to any more. It's not most people but I do understand it for a few.
If this is the highlight of someones day, then god help them, for no one else can.
Kanluwen wrote: But see, if you post it in spoilers then you don't get to ruin the preview for someone else!
"Ruin".
This isn't someone posting the plot to the new Doctor Strange. They're pictures of miniatures.
If I see the models EXACTLY as they will be three hours beforehand, my day is ruined you HECKIN' CLOUT CHASER!
Some people don't have a lot on and that preview will be the highlight of their day (appreciate that sounds like a slow day by most standards), they might pop in here to have some excited pre-chatter or whatever and not expect to see the contents early. Suddenly they don't have the thing they were looking forwards to any more. It's not most people but I do understand it for a few.
If this is the highlight of someones day, then god help them, for no one else can.
Haha. I get it, but I recommend exercising self control.
There will be spoilers on Dakka and if you know that these spoilers will sour your excitement for the live Warhammer Fest reveals... stay off of Dakka until after GW is finished with their thing.
It's literally that simple.
You know what else is simple?
Spoiler tags. There's literally a button you can press when doing a non-quick reply that makes it work.
I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
But see there could be no way that new reveals for a hobby people like and use to get away from the drudgery of work, bills, the insanity of the world, and depression could possibly be a highlight of a day.
It would utterly stupid that people could actually enjoy their hobbies and look forward to seeing new things in a preview.
Shame on you for thinking people should be allowed to enjoy their hobbies.
Gert wrote: But see there could be no way that new reveals for a hobby people like and use to get away from the drudgery of work, bills, the insanity of the world, and depression could possibly be a highlight of a day.
It would utterly stupid that people could actually enjoy their hobbies and look forward to seeing new things in a preview.
Shame on you for thinking people should be allowed to enjoy their hobbies.
If this is how you enjoy the hobby, unironically, a level of shame on you.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Again, they're miniatures, and these leaks are no different to any other leak we've had across time. Getting mad about it is nonsensical. It's almost insane.
blood reaper wrote: If this is how you enjoy the hobby, unironically, a level of shame on you.
And from Dakka's king of "Don't care, got mine!" as well. Amazing stuff.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Because there isn't any 'twist' or development here. You aren't watching a story or anything - you're just being shown pictures of unchanging plastic or resin. The same context and feeling do not apply.
There is a level of CONSOOMER brain I cannot understand. Literal worship of capital as like, idols.
But what is EVEN funnier, in my mind, is that people are going onto the NEWS AND RUMOURS section - and complaining about leaks and rumours.
Gert wrote: But see there could be no way that new reveals for a hobby people like and use to get away from the drudgery of work, bills, the insanity of the world, and depression could possibly be a highlight of a day.
It would utterly stupid that people could actually enjoy their hobbies and look forward to seeing new things in a preview.
Shame on you for thinking people should be allowed to enjoy their hobbies.
B-but it's just worthless toys for children!
That's the universal response everytime anyone gets upset about the state of the hobby, now innit?
Gert wrote: But see there could be no way that new reveals for a hobby people like and use to get away from the drudgery of work, bills, the insanity of the world, and depression could possibly be a highlight of a day. It would utterly stupid that people could actually enjoy their hobbies and look forward to seeing new things in a preview. Shame on you for thinking people should be allowed to enjoy their hobbies.
B-but it's just worthless toys for children!
That's the universal response everytime anyone gets upset about the state of the hobby, now innit?
Took the words out of my mouth.
I refuse to believe certain posters are not GW employees at this point.
Although what are the odds it wasn't GW themselves who posted cropped, HD images from the inevitable Community articles in order to drum it last minute hype/clicks?
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Because you're not seeing the thing as it is intended to be revealed. You get a small snippit and then all the negative comments that go along with it and it really sours the eventual actual reveal for that person. And we'll probably see people complaining about the lack of reveals ( already happening before it happens ), because they've been spoiled.
I don't particularly care about all this, but I can see why it would be frustrating to someone else. Certainly this is likely the wrong place to come to avoid spoilers though.
And yes some people enjoy the reveals and the experience of the "pre release event". Heck some enjoy it so much they pay money to go to pre-release events themselves.
Not everything has to be spoilt in advance. This isn't the dark Kirby days when we went months without much if any news on anything
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Because there isn't any 'twist' or development here. You aren't watching a story or anything - you're just being shown pictures of unchanging plastic or resin. The same context and feeling do not apply.
There is a level of CONSOOMER brain I cannot understand. Literal worship of capital as like, idols.
But what is EVEN funnier, in my mind, is that people are going onto the NEWS AND RUMOURS section - and complaining about leaks and rumours.
"I'm excited to see what happens in Avatar 2 and discuss it with my friends after" - Someone puts the plot on line "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"
"I'm excited to see what they reveal in the 40k stream an interact with the streamers and other viewers" - Someone leaks it online "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"]
How are those different?
But you continue being the edgelord in the corner judging 'CONSOOMERS'.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Because you're not seeing the thing as it is intended to be revealed. You get a small snippit and then all the negative comments that go along with it and it really sours the eventual actual reveal for that person. And we'll probably see people complaining about the lack of reveals ( already happening before it happens ), because they've been spoiled.
.
You're not seeing it with text telling you buy it or some bad video showing it off on a turntable, and worse, you're exposed to posts you can choose to ignore.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Because there isn't any 'twist' or development here. You aren't watching a story or anything - you're just being shown pictures of unchanging plastic or resin. The same context and feeling do not apply.
There is a level of CONSOOMER brain I cannot understand. Literal worship of capital as like, idols.
But what is EVEN funnier, in my mind, is that people are going onto the NEWS AND RUMOURS section - and complaining about leaks and rumours.
"I'm excited to see what they reveal in the 40k stream an interact with the streamers and other viewers" - Someone leaks it online "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"
How are those different?
As if GW's shillstreamers ever interact with their viewers, OR have anything interesting to say.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Because there isn't any 'twist' or development here. You aren't watching a story or anything - you're just being shown pictures of unchanging plastic or resin. The same context and feeling do not apply.
There is a level of CONSOOMER brain I cannot understand. Literal worship of capital as like, idols.
But what is EVEN funnier, in my mind, is that people are going onto the NEWS AND RUMOURS section - and complaining about leaks and rumours.
"I'm excited to see what they reveal in the 40k stream an interact with the streamers and other viewers" - Someone leaks it online "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"
How are those different?
As if GW's shillstreamers ever interact with their viewers, OR have anything interesting to say.
If the highlight of your day is interacting with a stream telling you to buy things ... god help you. That level of consumption mindset is simply too great.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Because you're not seeing the thing as it is intended to be revealed. You get a small snippit and then all the negative comments that go along with it and it really sours the eventual actual reveal for that person. And we'll probably see people complaining about the lack of reveals ( already happening before it happens ), because they've been spoiled.
And that's part of what kills it. Inevitably, it's going to be the same five or six people whining in here that "YAWN PREVIEWS BORING" while setting out to find every single leaked item via Discord, 4chan, Reddit, Facebook, whatever.
I don't particularly care about all this, but I can see why it would be frustrating to someone else.
Certainly this is likely the wrong place to come to avoid spoilers though.
Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Billicus wrote: Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Yes, they are. For them, the joyless series of advertisements is ... the highlight of their day.
blood reaper wrote: You're not seeing it with text telling you buy it or some bad video showing it off on a turntable, and worse, you're exposed to posts you can choose to ignore.
I don't necessarily disagree, but of the two I would choose someone telling me to buy a model rather than relentless negativity.
Haha. I get it, but I recommend exercising self control.
There will be spoilers on Dakka and if you know that these spoilers will sour your excitement for the live Warhammer Fest reveals... stay off of Dakka until after GW is finished with their thing.
It's literally that simple.
You know what else is simple?
Spoiler tags. There's literally a button you can press when doing a non-quick reply that makes it work.
Yes, I agree, but you cannot always count on people using them. Wasn't that the point?
You can however always count on yourself. See where I'm going with this? Do something that is within your control rather than strong-arm others to accommodate you.
Spoilers not using the Spoilers tag? The thread is also not marked "Leaked Images". Were you born yesterday?
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oni wrote: Yes, I agree, but you cannot always count on people using them. Wasn't that the point?
You can however always count on yourself. See where I'm going with this? Do something that is within your control rather than strong-arm others to accommodate you.
Let me just go back in time to block the person who posted those spoilers.
Gert wrote: Spoilers not using the Spoilers tag? The thread is also not marked "Leaked Images". Were you born yesterday?
I agree that spoiler tags should be common courtesy, but this forums software is so old that people are using to using spoilers to do handle massive quote blocks rather than for actual spoilers.
Billicus wrote: Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Yes, they are. For them, the joyless series of advertisements is ... the highlight of their day.
Apparently being here degrading others personal lives and choices is the other highlight on the menu.
Billicus wrote: Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Yes, they are. For them, the joyless series of advertisements is ... the highlight of their day.
Why do you feel a need to mock people for their enjoyment of a hobby - specifically on a site dedicated to the enjoyment and social interaction of people engaged with that hobby?
Billicus wrote: Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Yes, they are. For them, the joyless series of advertisements is ... the highlight of their day.
Why do you feel a need to mock people for their enjoyment of a hobby - specifically on a site dedicated to the enjoyment and social interaction of people engaged with that hobby?
I feel the answer is deeply rooted in some irony about having nothing better to do.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Because there isn't any 'twist' or development here. You aren't watching a story or anything - you're just being shown pictures of unchanging plastic or resin. The same context and feeling do not apply.
There is a level of CONSOOMER brain I cannot understand. Literal worship of capital as like, idols.
But what is EVEN funnier, in my mind, is that people are going onto the NEWS AND RUMOURS section - and complaining about leaks and rumours.
"I'm excited to see what happens in Avatar 2 and discuss it with my friends after" - Someone puts the plot on line "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"
"I'm excited to see what they reveal in the 40k stream an interact with the streamers and other viewers" - Someone leaks it online "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"]
How are those different?
When I buy a movie, I wouldn't read the storyline before the purchase to make sure I will like the movie.
When I buy a model, I always take a look at pictures before the purchase to make sure I will like the model.
And the interaction with the stream is still there and new, if that's what you're after. But the stream isn't the product here, it's simply marketing. It's more like leaking a trailer for the movie, and that still doesn't ruin the movie in any way (other than what the trailer might spoil anyway)
Billicus wrote: Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Yes, they are. For them, the joyless series of advertisements is ... the highlight of their day.
Why do you feel a need to mock people for their enjoyment of a hobby - specifically on a site dedicated to the enjoyment and social interaction of people engaged with that hobby?
Because imo there is a bit more to the hobby than kind of mindlessly engaging with advertising.
Billicus wrote: Are people really complaining about spoilers for a joyless series of product adverts that are coming in a few hours? Spoilers on a forum clearly marked news and rumours? Were these people born yesterday?
Yes, they are. For them, the joyless series of advertisements is ... the highlight of their day.
Why do you feel a need to mock people for their enjoyment of a hobby - specifically on a site dedicated to the enjoyment and social interaction of people engaged with that hobby?
Because being a donkey cave is the only joy they get in life, apparently.
blood reaper wrote: I do not understand how seeing what you want to see early (and do not bring up film comparisons, or book comparisons, because those are narratives - not individual, unchanging models) can damage the experience, but there is a level of fan brain which I legitimately cannot fathom.
Why is having a narrative spoiled any different to something else being spoiled. The same feeling and context applies, it doesn't natter what I'm excited it for, if someone spoils it then it won't be as good/bad.
Because there isn't any 'twist' or development here. You aren't watching a story or anything - you're just being shown pictures of unchanging plastic or resin. The same context and feeling do not apply.
There is a level of CONSOOMER brain I cannot understand. Literal worship of capital as like, idols.
But what is EVEN funnier, in my mind, is that people are going onto the NEWS AND RUMOURS section - and complaining about leaks and rumours.
"I'm excited to see what happens in Avatar 2 and discuss it with my friends after" - Someone puts the plot on line "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"
"I'm excited to see what they reveal in the 40k stream an interact with the streamers and other viewers" - Someone leaks it online "Oh that's taken the shine off, guess I won't bother watching"]
How are those different?
When I buy a movie, I wouldn't read the storyline before the purchase to make sure I will like the movie.
When I buy a model, I always take a look at pictures before the purchase to make sure I will like the model.
And the interaction with the stream is still there and new, if that's what you're after. But the stream isn't the product here, it's simply marketing. It's more like leaking a trailer for the movie, and that still doesn't ruin the movie in any way (other than what the trailer might spoil anyway)
But it doesn't matter, you're robbing someone of their planned excitement. It's (ironically) not about the consumption of the physical product, it's about the social interactions and/or the planned and perceived personal time for hobbying that's impacted.
blood reaper wrote: Because imo there is a bit more to the hobby than kind of mindlessly engaging with advertising.
"Don't watch the streams because it's marketing. But you have to engage with the hobby. No, you can't engage with the hobby by watching the streams. How dare you engage in a way that I disaprove"
blood reaper wrote: Because imo there is a bit more to the hobby than kind of mindlessly engaging with advertising.
"Don't watch the streams because it's marketing. But you have to engage with the hobby. No, you can't engage with the hobby by watching the streams. How dare you engage in a way that I disaprove"
Also you don't make a weighted or considered decision to put the time aside to partake, it's mindless if you do. You're a 200IQ giga-chad if you only get hobby info via leaks because you're sticking to the corporation or something.
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NAVARRO wrote: What? People upset about leaks on a news and rumours dedicated forum threads? This is beyond nonsense.
If you just want Official news and releases and full pictures etc I suggest you only go to GW official site and expect that to be updated.
Honestly reasonable advice, but some etiquette or decorum has been utterly lost in here and it's become ok to mock peoples use of their free time as a form of rampant capitalism.
blood reaper wrote: Because imo there is a bit more to the hobby than kind of mindlessly engaging with advertising.
"Don't watch the streams because it's marketing. But you have to engage with the hobby. No, you can't engage with the hobby by watching the streams. How dare you engage in a way that I disaprove"
Also you don't make a weighted or considered decision to put the time aside to partake, it's mindless if you do. You're a 200IQ giga-chad if you only get hobby info via leaks because you're sticking to the corporation or something.
I mean no I get my news from the forum and checking the GW community site in the afternoon after work, because I have a healthy ability to not literally worship capital.
NAVARRO wrote: What? People upset about leaks on a news and rumours dedicated forum threads? This is beyond nonsense.
If you just want Official news and releases and full pictures etc I suggest you only go to GW official site and expect that to be updated.
It's more that people were kind of using this thread to chat about what might happen and then we've started toget leaks where the entire release is being shown off in advance (not all here but there's a few bits and hints that the whole rest is being shown on other sites). It's less of a leak and more of a flood
oni wrote: Haha. I get it, but I recommend exercising self control.
There will be spoilers on Dakka and if you know that these spoilers will sour your excitement for the live Warhammer Fest reveals... stay off of Dakka until after GW is finished with their thing.
It's literally that simple.
GW & leaks, name a more iconic duo. We've had multiple codexes leaked in full this year, some before they were even officially announced. Let alone various model pictures of varying quality.
If someone is so desperate to avoid "spoilers" about Event X, why would they visit the Event X thread in the NEWS AND RUMOURS forum with just few hours to go before the official thing?
Wait there're people going to this forum section NOT because of the early leak and pics? Must be new here , pics leak hours or 1 day before revealed at these events is pretty common.
blood reaper wrote: Because imo there is a bit more to the hobby than kind of mindlessly engaging with advertising.
"Don't watch the streams because it's marketing. But you have to engage with the hobby. No, you can't engage with the hobby by watching the streams. How dare you engage in a way that I disaprove"
Also you don't make a weighted or considered decision to put the time aside to partake, it's mindless if you do. You're a 200IQ giga-chad if you only get hobby info via leaks because you're sticking to the corporation or something.
I mean no I get my news from the forum and checking the GW community site in the afternoon because I have a healthy ability to not literally worship capital.
Sorry, let me get my holy GW cloth out and face Nottingham to pray by throwing fivers out the window as the stream comes on. Stop being a douche.
Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background, with a giant "REVEALED ON WARHAMMER FEST 2022" logo slapped on top, obsucring a good third of the model's lower half.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities, in a heavily gramatically dubious fashion)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
When I buy a movie, I wouldn't read the storyline before the purchase to make sure I will like the movie.
When I buy a model, I always take a look at pictures before the purchase to make sure I will like the model.
And the interaction with the stream is still there and new, if that's what you're after. But the stream isn't the product here, it's simply marketing. It's more like leaking a trailer for the movie, and that still doesn't ruin the movie in any way (other than what the trailer might spoil anyway)
But it doesn't matter, you're robbing someone of their planned excitement. It's (ironically) not about the consumption of the physical product, it's about the social interactions and/or the planned and perceived personal time for hobbying that's impacted.
You asked how these things are different, I answered that, and I think you get the point, so you're now moving the goal posts.
You're robbing yourself of that excitement if you hang out in a board called News & Rumour, constantly checking the thread even though you are perfectly aware that the presentation is not live yet.
I hate trailers for movies, so I always dodge them when a trailer comes up as an ad for a movie I plan on watching - it's really not that hard.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!" [AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities)
When I buy a movie, I wouldn't read the storyline before the purchase to make sure I will like the movie.
When I buy a model, I always take a look at pictures before the purchase to make sure I will like the model.
And the interaction with the stream is still there and new, if that's what you're after. But the stream isn't the product here, it's simply marketing. It's more like leaking a trailer for the movie, and that still doesn't ruin the movie in any way (other than what the trailer might spoil anyway)
But it doesn't matter, you're robbing someone of their planned excitement. It's (ironically) not about the consumption of the physical product, it's about the social interactions and/or the planned and perceived personal time for hobbying that's impacted.
You asked how these things are different, I answered that, and I think you get the point, so you're now moving the goal posts.
You're robbing yourself of that excitement if you hang out in a board called News & Rumour, constantly checking the thread even though you are perfectly aware that the presentation is not live yet.
I hate trailers for movies, so I always dodge them when a trailer comes up as an ad for a movie I plan on watching - it's really not that hard.
Personally I don't care either way and won't be able to watch it live so it has no bearing on me, but I didn't move the goalpost so much as you were missing the point before.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
I mean yeah that's absolutely spot on but I still like to watch it.
NAVARRO wrote: What? People upset about leaks on a news and rumours dedicated forum threads? This is beyond nonsense.
If you just want Official news and releases and full pictures etc I suggest you only go to GW official site and expect that to be updated.
It's more that people were kind of using this thread to chat about what might happen and then we've started toget leaks where the entire release is being shown off in advance (not all here but there's a few bits and hints that the whole rest is being shown on other sites). It's less of a leak and more of a flood
So people just want x amount of leaks Is that it?
I dont think thats how these clearly labeled forum threads or even internet works since errr ever.
The behaviour you just mentioned is the equivalent of someone googling "potatoes" getting Potatoes hits and being upset of so many potatoes links
Getting mad about these leaks but not others makes zero sense.
I'd say that outrage over leaks is 'peak Dakka', but I'm not one of those members who likes treat Dakka as some kind of constantly self-contradicting hive mind. So instead I'll say this:
Grow some perspective people. These leaks are no different to any other. Getting mad/high and mighty over this would be like getting super angry that the Tyranid Codex leaked a month or so early.
As has been said, this isn't a movie plot or television finale. This isn't some jackass screaming 'Snape kills Dumbledore!' at the line of people waiting to buy the latest Harry Potter book. It's static miniatures and no different to any other leak.
From my perspective these are nothing more than more useful rumour engine pics, and actually make me more hopeful of what we're going to see.
Gert wrote: Leakers aren't people annoyed at GWs business choices, they're self serving prats looking for clout. After how bad the leaks have been recently I wouldn't be surprised if GW stops doing preview products. People didn't stop being mad at GW either, this site proves that every day.
The leaks so far have served no real purpose but making people annoyed and perpetuating the cycle of negativity. Instead of getting the full and accurate picture we have pages upon pages of people getting angrier and angrier because someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex.
MFW when someone decided to leak random parts of a Codex
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
[...]
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
Not nearly enough filler, we've got to stretch this stream out to 30-40 minutes per mini, my dude.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Spoiler:
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background, with a giant "REVEALED ON WARHAMMER FEST 2022" logo slapped on top, obsucring a good third of the model's lower half.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities, in a heavily gramatically dubious fashion)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
I have to say thats probably the funniest post I ever read from you
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Spoiler:
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background, with a giant "REVEALED ON WARHAMMER FEST 2022" logo slapped on top, obsucring a good third of the model's lower half.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities, in a heavily gramatically dubious fashion)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
I have to say thats probably the funniest post I ever read from you
Judging by the reaction it is, clearly, my most important, hilarious and influential post in the history of this forum.
Come in here expecting to see some proper pics and find page after page of the usuals defending poor lady GW from those dastardly leakers! How dare those voyeurs take a sneaky peaky!
Turns out the stream doesn't even start until 5pm, and it will just be full of waffling about nothing as they usually are. Oh well, time to wait for it to be over before anything of substance appears...
Grimtuff wrote: Turns out the stream doesn't even start until 5pm, and it will just be full of waffling about nothing as they usually are. Oh well, time to wait for it to be over before anything of substance appears...
Remember that GW previews are regular previews in slow motion, and Warhammer Fest is a GW preview in slow motion. It's like slow motion cubed!
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Spoiler:
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background, with a giant "REVEALED ON WARHAMMER FEST 2022" logo slapped on top, obsucring a good third of the model's lower half.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities, in a heavily gramatically dubious fashion)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
I have to say thats probably the funniest post I ever read from you
Judging by the reaction it is, clearly, my most important, hilarious and influential post in the history of this forum.
It has given me names for NPC characters in the future
TalonZahn wrote: Last year? I think you mean every reveal they ever do.
No they often show us new stuff, but just not very much stuff, hence the 'in slow motion' comment. You take 3-4 GW previews and combine them and it's more like a proper reveal.
The "like last year" thing refers to the fact that we knew so much of what was 'revealed' at Warhammer Fest '21 prior to the event, and not just from leaks; heaps of it was revealed by GW prior to the event, who then went on to 'reveal' them again.
And here we are, at another Warhammer Fest, and the week before has been leaky leak leaks.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Spoiler:
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background, with a giant "REVEALED ON WARHAMMER FEST 2022" logo slapped on top, obsucring a good third of the model's lower half.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities, in a heavily gramatically dubious fashion)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
Gert almost ruined my day of WARHAMMERtm(c)(r) FEST. But you just saved it.
I mean admittedly we haven't seen the whole model, but so far this looks meh. They wanted to walk back the camp of the original squats and yet still pay homage to them, but this looks like a middle point that is just disappointing for everyone.
Also, why would you wear an overcoat overtop of powered armour? What's that for? So the wind and rain don't cool you in your thick suit of armour?
Vorian wrote: Is there a problem with simply not watching these things if you don't like them?
They can not compel you to watch it, I promise you.
I'm not going to watch them, never do, as they waffle about nothing for too long. Gonna make dinner instead.
You'll find most of the recent observations on this page are from people who assumed it had started as the thread exploded, which is usually a good indicator it has done so, but nope- we have a certain someone getting their panties in a bunch over "leakers".
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Here, i can simulate the authentic stream experience for y'all at home. Ready?
Stream begins. Two balding, greasy and slightly obease middle-aged men with the combined charisma of a wet paper bag are sitting in a room with cheap, tacky 40k themed decorations.
Greasus the Unwashed: "Uh, erm, er, welcome to the stream guuys, we uh, this is a very, the best most awesomest double-plus-good year for Warhammer(tm)(copyrighted) and Games Workshop(tm) ever (tm)!
Obeasen, the Woman-Deprived: "Yeah, are you guys uh, er, excited for all the totally awesomest things we're going to show you today?"
(This continues for about half an hour)
A medium-sized model finally gets revealed. It starts with a black screen. Soon enough, copyright-free rock music begins playing as the new model spins, with several jarring close-ups on random parts on the model accompanied by bright white flashes. Greasus and Obeasen come back on screen, accompanied by a .jpg of the model on white background, with a giant "REVEALED ON WARHAMMER FEST 2022" logo slapped on top, obsucring a good third of the model's lower half.
G: "Yeah, uh, aren't you guys totally super-excited about this totally bestest thing ever? We love it so much!"
O: "CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT BUY PRODUCT-"
[Shillsoomer, 18:49]: "Wowzers, best Warhammer model ever! I'm going to have my wife's boyfriend buy me TWENTY!"
[AverageFantasyFan850, 18:49]: "Grrrr Games Workshop where is my Old World Reveal! This is worthless!"
[Rommel1939, 18:49]: (A paragraph's worth of the user's opinions on women and minorities, in a heavily gramatically dubious fashion)
G: "Yeah that was an awesomest, bestest totally the most wonderful reveal! And that's just the begining! Tune in for the future for the rest of the bestest, awesomest, super-duper bestest ever-"
The stream cuts off, as the two hosts begin foaming at their mouth before falling on the ground unconcious, out of their sheer and pure LOVE for any PRODUCT and CAPITALISM. The events ends for today, after two hours and a single reveal.
Simply perfect. Like, it would be one thing if GW's previews were actually good. But when they're like... this? How's it going to ruin your day if you see the model? And again, even if it would ruin your day... what do you expect in a thread whose subject is Warhammer Fest in a subforum whose subject is News & Rumors?
Vorian wrote: Is there a problem with simply not watching these things if you don't like them?
They can not compel you to watch it, I promise you.
I'm not going to watch them, never do, as they waffle about nothing for too long. Gonna make dinner instead.
You'll find most of the recent observations on this page are from people who assumed it had started as the thread exploded, which is usually a good indicator it has done so, but nope- we have a certain someone getting their panties in a bunch over "leakers".
Then, as an addendum, you don't have to post about how uninterested you are, how bad you find them, etc.
That's great. Top marks to you. But we don't need the same people coming out with their tight 15 on this every preview. It's tiresome.
Simply perfect. Like, it would be one thing if GW's previews were actually good. But when they're like... this? How's it going to ruin your day if you see the model? And again, even if it would ruin your day... what do you expect in a thread whose subject is Warhammer Fest in a subforum whose subject is News & Rumors?
I think it's less the spoiling and more dealing with people who like to pee in cheerios writing up fanfics on how the stream will go.
Whelp, at least I'm not missing anything substantive in between my breaks. 
