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Haha! That model looks great

You definately need some red haired insane dwarf servitors which constantly try to go and over-kill the enemy

I like how the models are coming along and especially the silver eye contacts. It'll be cool (in a creepy way) seeing an entire army with metallic inhuman eyes.

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SilverMK2 wrote:Love the servitor. Looks like it was meant to be

To start with it felt wrong to go cutting up a FW resin, but he does look like it should be there. Much more so than the metal GW servitors with heavy weapons... I think I need to order another 4 or 5 to give me all the options for a servitor squad for my Tech priest.

Haha, I know the feeling. It feels like defiling a bit of jewellery or something, they're so ornate and expensive .

Gave myself a massive fright the other day when I was dissecting a FW guardsman with my trusty bonesaw: I accidentally dropped the model on the floor and ran it over with my desk chair as I went down to pick it up. He was completely unharmed though, which was a minor miracle.

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Do you think you could give a run through of how exactly you get your greenstuff so smooth? I spend ages smoothing mine, but it still looks a little sloppy in places and I sometimes end up filing it down when its dried.

Smoothing out green stuff is a combination of practice and tools. I'm using colour shapers as they don't stick to the green stuff, so unlike the metal sculpting tools, you don't need to use any lubricant. For metal tools, Nathonicus' suggestion of using natural grease from around your hairline, or the side of your nose has been a great help too. To smooth things out, gently brush backwards and forwards over the rough area with the colour shaper and it will smooth out nicely. You can find colour shapers in the sculpting or paintbrush sections of Hobby Craft.

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Thanks to an overly productive night last night I have four updates for you:

Mr Psyker (as yet unnamed) now has a head with lots of cables down the back. You can see some in the photo, but as I used grey stuff instead, it's not all that clear. Sorry!


Then we have the post-green stuffed servitor from yesterday, now with a sleeve and any holes filled in.


And an update on the legs from yesterday too. I finished bulking out the boots and added some ports for tubing (much like the arms had on Leth). Tonight I"ll be finishing them off with a thin layer of miliput to try and smooth out any little flaws that are left


And finally... those new legs in action with a peek at the Carapace armour that I've been piecing together for any grenadier or stormtrooper units I decide to create. the head will be bulked out a bit so that it appears to be sitting on the rim, rather than inside it. They will also have a faceplate that (if they were real) could slide down and be vacuum sealed for boarding actions. The head is tonight's task along with miliputting the new legs and body.

Love the carapace armour. I imagine that it will look great when you sort out the head

The eagle looks great. I love the break in the armour at the front and the power vents at the back.

The only problem with the servitor is that you can see where you have clipped the white rods with cutters... you might want to go over the ends with a knife to smooth them out.

I like the legs... the boots look pretty good. You thought about putting some controls on the side so they can turn them on and off etc? Will there be power cables to them too?

The psyker could be called Blaine

Although I accept that the real life inspiration is more of a fake trickster than actual psyker

Anyway, all looks good so far, especially the storm trooper prototype.

Well spotted, I'd not spotted the clipping marks (*duh!*). Will sort those out. Looking at the servitor photo more, the sleeve could possibly do with a little (a lot!) more work too.

I don't think there will be cables going to the boots, but I do like the idea of controls somewhere for switching them on/off. Will have to have a think later and see what I can sort out.

If I had to call the psyker anything with a real world reference, it'd probably be Penn

Looking great as ever. I love the carapace in particular. I think it looks pretty cool with the heads down inside it like that.

You going to do any Demolition team / Bomb squad?

Miss Dee wrote:You going to do any Demolition team / Bomb squad?

Eventually, yes. I'd like to make bits to be able to build any unit option in the book, especially when they fit with the background like mining experts (demolition teams) or boarding specialists (Grenadiers). I see the demo experts looking a bit more like the SWAT demo teams, with the large padded plate strapped to their fronts and little robot helpers... finally a 40K use for the C.A.T from Space Hulk!

Given the background for the Moles, I would also like to be able to equip them with the mining lasers from the Elysian lists in the IA books, to form a breaching team. Not sure if this would go in the Demo team, or what, but it's too thematic to turn down

cool good luck.

Sorry if somebody's already said this, but have you had a look at the hades breaching drill and sentinel power lifter from forge world? They look awesome and could easily be rationalised as press-ganged mining equipment.

Yep, both have been mentioned and both are very cool indeed. When I get my initial force sorted out I will look at adding things like that in as I really want to try and produce a thematic, story driven force, rather than anything power-gamer-y

okay i thought i loved your normal guys.

but i have a new lover

your fething awsome carapace armoured, powerbooted facemasked stomrtroopers o' doom!!!!

i really love them. they seem almost like a halfway point between power armour and flak armour . luvvem! the detailing is fantastic. now i must ask. are you gonna sell any moulds?

I love the paint scheme and greenstuff work. It inspires me to better my own efforts!

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NOT POSSIBLE!!! HOW CAN YOU BE SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!

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DC

With the colour shapers what stiffness did you go for? The Firm or Clay version?

Thanks for all the kind words! At the moment there are restrictions on which bits I can sell due to what they are based upon. I needed to do the legs this way as I need some units finished by January for a tournament. Once that's out of the way I can look at another round of legs; plus some arms and heads that are solely mine. At that point, yes. I'd love to start selling them. It'd be amazing to see what other people did with the bits

Flinty wrote:With the colour shapers what stiffness did you go for? The Firm or Clay version?

At the moment I've got the softer cup and chisel ones and the firmer taper point. All of them are the smallest versions Hobby Craft had. The big ones really are big. I may invest in firmer cup and chisel ones too at some point as I'm using the colour shapers far more than the metal tools.



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ghosty wrote: they seem almost like a halfway point between power armour and flak armour .

Surely that's the point of Carapace armour?

Hello,

The lady in the posh frock looks wonderful. Add her in. Perhaps you should get two, one with her normal good lookin' babe face and then another with a gas mask on. Now I've said that, I'm sure you'd do the gas mask one first and forego the other.

I like the look of the grenadier with the high collar and cadian type helmet; they look fine IMHO. My grenadiers are plastic void 1.1 viridians with GW IG arms and pig iron heavy inf closed helmets. Have a look here http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/hd6-heavy-infantry-visored-head-sprues-p-16.html these are the ones I use. If you find something you like, it might speed you up a bit.

Keep 'em comin'

Having seen the new FW drop troop FAV, the thought struck me that you could adapt the idea to some kind of tunnel transport vehicle that would be used by the minors to transport workers to the mine face from their dorms/lifts/etc.

Something quite low sprung, quite fast and lightly armoured, adapted to fill a combat role perhaps?

I fell in love with the FAV when I saw it at GD; I fully intend to use a number of them when it comes out. Why try and replicate perfection?


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Zzzzzz wrote:The lady in the posh frock looks wonderful. Add her in. Perhaps you should get two, one with her normal good lookin' babe face and then another with a gas mask on. Now I've said that, I'm sure you'd do the gas mask one first and forego the other.

To be honest, as part of the Inquisitor's retinue, I'm not sure she needs a gas mask; just a more suitable 40k weapon and outfit. The masks are only really used by the general troops as part of their boarding/low atmosphere specialisation; which should become clearer when I finish writing the background story behind the expedition.

Zzzzzz wrote:I like the look of the grenadier with the high collar and cadian type helmet; they look fine IMHO. My grenadiers are plastic void 1.1 viridians with GW IG arms and pig iron heavy inf closed helmets. Have a look here http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/hd6-heavy-infantry-visored-head-sprues-p-16.html these are the ones I use.

I've used the same heads on my experimental models in the first post of the thread. Personally I found their heads a little small in comparison to GWs, but they are still very cool and one day I may get around to finishing off those two units, just to add a little variety into my force. Thankfully I'm almost finished with the first draft of the head to accompany the grenadier body; I hope you like it when it's done. Fingers crossed that will be tonight!

omg that F.A.V looks awsome!

Yesteday myself and Arakasi put together a vague plan for our tournament force, you can see and comment on it over in the army lists part of the forum : here.

If this is where we are headed... I need to work out what the heck a Psyker Battle Squad looks like... The one psyker I've done so far is fine, but I don't really want an entire squad like that... and I really don't like the metal models from GW either. In my head I see the PBS as being the most stable new finds from my Inquisitor's Black Ship. I'm just wondering if they should all be in their original civilian clothing, so each one is completely different, or if they would have been provided with clothing when they were taken?

There is the option of using the Empire wizards kit, but I'd have to buy 4 to make up my squad, which isn't cheap; plus I'd need a load of laspistols from somewhere...


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I was going to post some photos of the new head, but looking at it in daylight... I need to start again. It looked rubbish!

Hmmm... perhaps civ clothes with a flak vest on top?

Or they might be in some kind of almost "prison" style uniform, to denote their position as part troops, part conscripts, part priosoners, part "look at me funny and I will blow your head off"

I might be tempted to model a control collar on them simmilar to penal legion troops.

Unless you want these guys to be the more trusted kind of psykers, in which case I would go with either the civ clothes and a flak vest, or some kind of formal battle uniform, as I am assuming that they will get some form of official training and supplies, as they are working for the Imperium.

I can't quite decide. Everyone seems to be using the Flagellants to create a very ragged, crazy look to the PBS.

What if, in his travels, the Inquisitor found a small clan on a Frontier world or Death world that had reverted back to a feral state and over time had evolved to produce more psykers than normal to defend against the inhabitants of the world? The PBS can then use the Necromunda Ratskin gang, which has some very nice models in it. Unfortunately I'd probably need two boxes to get enough that aren't armed with rifles...

It is possible. Are there any servitor style models that you could use to represent some cyber psykers?

As much as I like the look of the models, I am never sure just how well "primitives" would fit into a more advanced looking army.

Alternately, you could try some of the pig iron models... I can't remember the name off the top of my head, but they go along with the millita models in their model range... look like renegade forces.

Hassle free miniatures have a range of Civvies which could easily be re-sculpted with green stuff.

Trouble is they are metal and there not GW. But there good quality.

get the school girls with the mac10 and sword.

Possibly some sort of arm band or other apparel denoting them as psykers? - or even a tattoo or branding - think almost like marking prisoners (or certain marking of individuals in WWII), but not as far as full orange jumpsuits... This would work with either a variety of civilian clothes (in the case of new finds) or even "standard" moles (put through training) - though I would opt for heads without helmets to help show the individuality in this case. Both would use the prominent arm band, apparel or branding to identify the unit/members.

I caved in last night and started cutting up the left over flagellants I had as all the sculpted bits are currently encased in drying mould rubber.

So far, the flagellant torsos have been cut off and replaced with all those spare Cadian torsos I've got kicking around. It kind of looks like robes under neath a flak jacket. I'm in the process of green stuffing some boots on them and filling in all the ragged bits of robes so they look a lot less liek a bunch of lunatic crazies. I've yet to decide about the heads or arms...

It's looking better than I thought it might and certainly looks a lot better than the crazycrazy looking PBSs that other people have. They are supposed to be trained, sanctioned Psykers after all. They would have had a bullet through the head if the warp had started to drive them doolally.

Another idea for the Sanctioned Psykers if your going down the civilian idea might be a variety of Necromunda Gangers a few Orlocks/ Van Saar/ Escher/ Delaque and Cawdor to represent varying worlds you could use the Juves to make them look like young recent conscripts.....